Mach Natural Resources Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • MAC reduced net debt to EBITDA to 0.7x by repaying $763 M on its term note, cutting projected interest expense by $22 M and eliminating $21 M of quarterly amortization.
  • Completed a $60 M XTO acquisition adding ~1 million acres and ~1,600 BOE/d of cash‐flowing production at a discount to PDP PV-10, furthering accretive growth.
  • Maintained a disciplined 37% reinvestment rate in Q1, generating $94 M of free cash flow and boosting the next quarterly distribution to $0.79/unit (LTM yield 20%).
  • Shifting rigs from oil‐heavy Oswego wells to the gas‐weighted Deep Anadarko Basin in Q3/Q4 to target >50% IRRs while keeping reinvestment below 50% of operating cash flow.
  • Oil prices dipped into the $50s amid OPEC+ supply increases and trade uncertainty, prompting deferral of some Oswego and Ardmore Basin condensate drilling.
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Earnings Conference Call
Mach Natural Resources Q1 2025
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Operator

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining today's call to discuss Mach Natural Resources' first quarter 2025 financial and operational results. During this morning's call, the speakers will be making forward-looking statements that cannot be confirmed by reference to existing information, including statements regarding expectations, projections, future performance, and the assumptions underlying such statements. Please note a number of factors will cause actual results to differ materially from their forward looking statements, including the factors identified and discussed in their press release and in their SEC filings. For further discussion of risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ from those in such forward looking statements, please read the company's annual report on Form 10 K, which is available on the company's website or the SEC's website.

Operator

Please recognize that, except as required by law, they undertake no duty to update any forward looking statements, and you should not place undue reliance on such statements. They may refer to some non GAAP financial measures in today's discussion. For reconciliation from non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please reference their press release and supplemental tables, which are available on Mach's website, and their 10-Q, which will also be available on their website when filed. Today's speakers are Tom Ward, CEO, and Kevin White, CFO. Tom will give an introduction and overview. Kevin will discuss Mach's financial results, and then the call will be open for questions. With that, I will turn the call over to Mr. Tom Ward. Tom?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you, Daryl. Welcome to Mach Natural Resources' first quarter earnings update. Each quarter, it is important to reiterate the company's four strategic pillars. These are, number one, maintain financial strength. Our goal is to have a long-term debt-to-EBITDA ratio of one time or less. By maintaining a low leverage profile, we give ourselves opportunities when markets experience high volatility. Number two, disciplined execution. We acquire only cash flowing assets at a discount to PDP PV10 that are accretive to our distribution. Number three, disciplined reinvestment rate. We maintain a reinvestment rate of less than 50% of our operating cash flow. By keeping our reinvestment rate low, we optimize our distribution to unit holders. Number four, maximize cash distributions. We target peer-leading variable distributions. This pillar drives all of our decisions. I'd like to add additional color to each of the four pillars. Maintain financial strength.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

During the first quarter, we saw significant progress on reducing our already low leverage. We completed the refinancing of our debt, repaying $763 million on our term note using proceeds from our new credit facility, our recent equity offering, along with cash from our balance sheet. We exited the quarter with $460 million drawn on our new credit facility, which reduced our net debt to EBITDA ratio from 1.0 times at year end 2024 to 0.7 times at the end of Q1. The refinancing of our debt provides significant savings, lowering our projected interest expense for 2025 by $22 million, while also eliminating quarterly amortization payments of $21 million. These savings will ultimately manifest themselves through higher free cash flow and our ability to enhance distributions to our unit holders. We focus on maintaining financial strength in order for our company to be successful through various commodity cycles.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

The current market environment is challenging, with oil prices recently dipping in the $50s for the first time since early 2021, reflecting trade policy uncertainties and indications from OPEC+ on increased production. However, Mach is positioned well from a natural gas perspective with our volume mix, being 54% natural gas, 23% NGLs, and 23% oil projected in 2025. In fact, if we move to three rigs in Q4 from a projected two rigs in Q3 to the more natural gas weighted deep Anadarko Basin, we will grow our natural gas production at the expense of our oil volume in 2025, but keep our overall barrel of oil equivalent basically flat. However, in 2026, we will experience double digit growth on the back of the additional gas drilling. We believe the deep Anadarko will be an exceptional area to drill for natural gas.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

The trick is to do this while keeping our reinvestment rate below 50% of operating cash flow. We project moving out of the Oswego drilling as of early June and down to two rigs during Q3 2025, with one deep rig in the deep gas area of Anadarko Basin and the other drilling Red Fork wells in Western Oklahoma. We then project to move to three rigs in Q4 by adding a second deep gas rig. If it appears that we need to delay that rig until Q1 2026 in order to meet our reinvestment rate of 50%, we will do so. As I mentioned, the increased drilling activity in the deep Anadarko is predicated on keeping our investment rate below 50% of our operating cash flow.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Our plan is to add operating cash flow during this down cycle and crude through an acquisition accretive to our distribution and giving us cash flow to enhance our drilling budget during 2026. Mach is unique in that we have the ability to utilize our over 2 million acreage inventory to change our drilling mix from one year ago when we drilled Oswego and Stack Condensate wells to a completely different set of wells to maximize our return on capital invested. Disciplined execution. Our second pillar, disciplined execution, has always meant being prudent in how we acquire assets. Our strategy since the company's outset has been to purchase cash-flowing properties at bargain prices while paying little to nothing on the associated acreage and infrastructure.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

In January, we closed on a $30 million acquisition that fit our specific criteria and plan to begin exploiting that future drilling opportunities on its associated acreage. However, with the drop in crude prices, we have delayed drilling in the Ardmore Basin in favor of natural gas drilling. Our large inventory and associated drilling opportunities are only hampered by keeping our reinvestment rate under 50%, which is why we are always intently focused on acquisitions of cash-flowing properties that can accelerate our development plans. The XTO acquisition now gives us another million acres to have an inventory to use when needed. In fact, we will move a rig onto our newly acquired XTO acreage in June 2025, drilling Red Fork Wells. The XTO acquisition is very unique given the huge acreage footprint across northwest Oklahoma and western Kansas.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

This extra million acres also came to us free of cost while maintaining our stated purpose of buying cash-flowing assets at discounts to PDP/PV10. Disciplined reinvestment rate. Our third pillar of maintaining a disciplined reinvestment rate focuses on spending only 50% of our cash flow on our development costs, allowing us to optimize our distributions to our unit holders. The development of our inventory is focused on stabilizing our production decline and bolstering our bottom line through high rate of return projects, typically of at least 50%. Our expectation for 2025 is to spend between $260 million and $280 million. Please remember that our CapEx program is fungible and depends on our success of adding additional operating cash flow to keep our reinvestment rate in check. Our change in drilling is due to natural gas prices moving up while oil prices have fallen.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

In a $70 environment, we would like to have at least one rig running in our Oswego program that delivered actualized 66% returns in 2024. This field is a hallmark of Mach, where we have drilled more than 225 wells since 2021. For example, our Oswego DNC cost in 2024 averaged only $2.6 million, or $202 per lateral foot. We achieved median payout periods of 15 months, assuming a flat $70 WTI and $350 Henry Hub price. According to Enverus, this compares to 14 months in the Core Delaware and 15 months in the Core Midland Basins, where purchasing locations can cost more than $10 million each. All of these statistics add up to unmatched cash returns for our unit holders over the last five years and the next five years.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

However, it is prudent to take our first pause in the Oswego program until crude prices recover and not waste this valuable resource when natural gas locations provide superior rates of return. We eagerly await adding an Oswego rig when crude prices recover. The Woodford Condensate and Ardmore Basin locations are also on hold until crude prices rise to a point where they compete with natural gas drilling in the deep Anadarko. Mach is in an enviable position of having too many good locations to drill, thus the need to increase our operating cash flow during a time of lower crude prices. Suffice it to say, we are on the hunt for cash-flowing PDP assets to be able to drill more in the mid-continent. Maximizing distributions. Our fourth pillar is one that drives all of our decisions: maximizing distributions. We are disciplined in our execution and capital strategy.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

By reinvesting 50% into our development program, we leave significant amounts of cash available for distribution that can be passed on to unit holders through our quarterly distributions. These quarterly distributions are variable and will rise and fall with changes in pricing. However, we are proactive in managing our risk where possible and hedge 50% of oil and natural gas production on a rolling one-year basis and 25% during the second year. Over the next 12 months, our hedge volumes are an average price of $69.31 for oil and $3.77 for gas. Our distribution-focused approach has been rewarding to our owners. We have distributed over $1 billion back to unit holders since our inception. Our upcoming distribution of $0.79 per unit results in an LTM yield of 20%. Mach's cash return on capital invested over the last five years is 32%.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

These industry-leading cash returns have been facilitated through a series of opportunistic acquisitions of cash-flowing properties throughout a variety of commodity cycles. We continue to see success in buying mid-continent assets, with our most recent acquisition closing just last week. The $60 million XTO acquisition fits perfectly with what we have done since the inception of the company in 2017. We found an asset that delivers free cash flow while also giving us free land to develop at a distressed purchase price. The XTO acquisition is primarily natural gas with a mix of production of 79% natural gas, 7% NGLs, and 14% oil. We continue to see the best value in acquisitions that are at or below $100 million, but they do add up. We are already approaching $100 million of acquisitions in 2025. We've made 21 acquisitions and have spent just over $2 billion since early 2018.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

This approach is important because we stay away from large well-capitalized competitors to buy assets that are less expensive. This formula has served us well. During this period of uncertainty in crude markets, we would also like to find a larger acquisition that continues to fit our basic business model. We believe that if crude prices remain under $60 for very long, we'll have the opportunity for a seller to merge into a larger well-capitalized company. This type of acquisition will allow us to expand our operating cash flow and maintain a robust drilling schedule on the more than 2 million acres of land that we have held by production. The key to any acquisition is that it must be accretive to our distribution. Mach is off to a solid start in 2025.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

We've averaged total net production of 80.9 MBOE per day, even though we only used 37% of our operating cash flow during the quarter. This did result in a lower oil volume than we projected due to deferring drilling in the Ardmore Basin that we projected to start in Q1. Our lease operating costs remain low at $6.69 per BOE, and we expect that to continue into Q2 with the acquisition of the XTO assets. In the 21 acquisitions that we have made, we have averaged approximately a 30% decrease in LOE. We expect the same in this acquisition. Markets change, and the most successful companies need to be able to react to change quickly. I want to reemphasize that Mach is an acquisition company. Our industry-leading cash returns have been made through opportunistic acquisitions. This is our primary lever of growth.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Our expectation is to continue making acquisitions that are accretive to our distribution in 2025, just as we have over the last seven years in 21 deals. Mach has a peer-leading PDP decline and reinvestment rate. Our next 12-month PDP decline is projected to be 20%, while our reinvestment rate in 2024 was only 47%. Both of these statistics are number one in a group of 16 peer companies. We have exceptionally strong asset coverage with total proof coverage of 3.9 times, net debt to enterprise value of 21%, and PDP/PV10 to total debt of 3.3 times. Our LOE averaged $6.69 per BOE in Q1 2025, and our 2024 free cash flow was $8.43 per BOE. We also have moved our net debt to EBITDA down to 0.7 times. In short, Mach is in perfect position to grow during a time of unease in our industry.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Over the past seven years, our very best acquisitions have come when oil prices were down. In fact, we bought Alta Mesa through a 363 bankruptcy process in 2020 when oil was at $20 per barrel. I do not know how long OPEC+ will increase production, or how long a trade war will continue, or if we will go into a global recession. I do know that if we keep our balance sheet strong and stick to our four pillars, we can weather any storm and can build an even stronger foundation for the future when prices rebound. I also believe that prices ultimately do rebound as the world looks to the U.S. to provide stability and energy to the 7 billion people striving to be as wealthy as the lucky 1 billion of us. I will now turn the call over to Kevin to discuss our financial results.

Kevin White
Kevin White
CFO at Mach Natural Resources

Thanks, Tom. For the quarter, our production of 81,000 BOE per day was 24% oil, 53% natural gas, and 23% NGLs. Our average realized prices were $70.75 per barrel of oil, $3.56 per MCF of gas, and $27.33 per barrel of NGLs. Of the $253 million total oil and gas revenues, the relative contribution for oil was 49%, 33% for gas, and 18% for NGLs. On the expense side, our lease operating expense of $49 million was equivalent to $6.69 per barrel. Cash G&A was slightly less than $9 million, resulting in about $1.20 per BOE. We ended the quarter with $8 million in cash, $460 million drawn on the $750 million revolver. As of today, after closing the XTO acquisition, we have $530 million drawn on the RBL.

Kevin White
Kevin White
CFO at Mach Natural Resources

Total revenues, including our hedges and midstream activities, totaled $227 million, adjusted EBITDA of $160 million, and $143 million of operating cash flow. After the development CapEx of $52 million, which was 37% of the operating cash flow, we generated over $94 million of cash available for distribution, resulting in an approved distribution of $0.79 per unit, which will be paid out on June 5th to record holders as of May 22nd. With that brief overview, Daryl, I'll turn the call back to you to open up the call for questions.

Kevin White
Kevin White
CFO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 to remove yourself from the queue.

Kevin White
Kevin White
CFO at Mach Natural Resources

For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Our first questions come from the line of Charles Mead with Johnson Rice. Please proceed with your questions.

Charles Mead
Charles Mead
Analyst at Johnson Rice

Good morning, Tom, and Kevin, and the rest of the Mach team there. Good morning. Tom, I want to ask about this acquisition. I have to say, in some ways, this slide 13 that you have here, it's stunning. I feel like maybe you're being a bit coy about this, and I'm trying to figure out, is it because this is a—I mean, you've doubled the acreage position of the company with a $60 million deal.

Charles Mead
Charles Mead
Analyst at Johnson Rice

I'm just going to try to get you to see if you're willing to talk a little bit more about—I think you gave us the production split, but the total production, the total production, the EBITDA from the asset base. Also, it looks to me that, obviously, you got some great Anadarko Basin stuff here, but it looks to me like you've picked up a big chunk of the Hugoton field there. Could you just talk more about it?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Sure. It's a small acquisition. What, 1,600 BOE a day. It's not that it produces so much. It does carry, as you said, a lot of acreage. 85% is in the greater Anadarko Basin. 38% of that greater Anadarko Basin is in the Hugoton— Southwest Kansas, Texas, Cimarron, and Beaver Counties of Oklahoma. 34% is in Major County, Oklahoma.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

That is more Northwest Oklahoma, Southwest Kansas. 7% in Elk City, which is deep Anadarko, Beckham, and Washita Counties. 6% in Woodward, Woods, and Ellis. That is more Northwest Oklahoma. 15% in a frontier play that has been producing for years in Wyoming and the Green River Basin. That consists—if you have—well, that comes with 1,400 operated wells. A lot of wells, 500 non-operated wells, 1,100 royalty-only wells. As you mentioned, 990,000 net acres across 40% in Oklahoma, 57% in Kansas, and 3% in Wyoming. It is not—I do not think people would look at this and say it is in the heart of the Anadarko Basin or it is not buying core Permian or Eagle Ford assets. I can guarantee you the acreage is not worthless. You get a million acres of land.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

We already have proposals being brought up to us to do reworks and drill new wells in Southwest Kansas. We're planning to drill some wells in Northwest Oklahoma. For $60 million, it just seems like a good deal. That is why I believe it is a good deal. The ability for our team in the Anadarko Basin and Southwest Kansas—we already have teams in place—I think we'll do a good job of lowering LOE. The asset, I do not think, has been worked as hard as maybe we'll take a look at it. I think we'll increase production and be able to make this a very good acquisition. Keeping in mind, it is a pretty small amount in our overall company. It is not going to move the needle tremendously. If we keep on doing these types of acquisitions, they add up.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

That is what we have done since 2018. This is the type of deal that we have made over and over again that just slowly builds a company. There is a reason that we can stay at a 50% reinvestment rate and still keep our production flattish. It is not easy to do, and most do not. It takes a rare company to be able to do that. I think this is just an example of why we can and why we are able to do what we do. It is not going to change our company dramatically, but really, very few outside of Paloma, there are very few deals that have. I just look at it as another good acquisition in the line of hopefully many more to come.

Charles Mead
Charles Mead
Analyst at Johnson Rice

Got it. That is helpful, Tom.

Charles Mead
Charles Mead
Analyst at Johnson Rice

If I could go back to your prepared comments when you were talking about the optionality or the leverage you have to stay under that 50% cap. I believe I heard that you said you'd drop your third rig if you needed to, to stay below 50%. That would probably be on an oily asset. Did I understand that correctly?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Yeah. We're at four rigs today. Two of those are leaving in June, the first part of June. Basically, say June 1, the two Oswego rigs will be leaving. That leaves us with two rigs running, one in the Woodford Condensate and one in the deep gas area of the Anadarko Basin. The deep gas area we talked about, the reason we've clarified as deep gas is these are 15,000 feet TBD, 15,000-foot laterals. Very deep, very long laterals.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

They take more capital, obviously, to drill. With that, we get the highest rates of return we can have in our company or in that area. What we plan to do then is move post-June, we'll be at two rigs. The Woodford Condensate, as of today, is going to move to the Red Fork Sands area, starting in Major County, working down through Custer. That leaves us the second rig. Right now, we project to add a third rig back to the deep gas area of the Anadarko Basin in basically September, October.

Charles Mead
Charles Mead
Analyst at Johnson Rice

Got it. Thank you for straightening me out on that.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

That all is—I'm sorry. It's all predicated on staying below a 50% reinvestment rate. We've done that in the past.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Also, you should know that the first quarter, we only spent 37% of our reinvestment rate. We still project that we'll spend closer to 50% in the overall 2025. We look at our reinvestment rate on a yearly basis, not a quarterly basis.

Charles Mead
Charles Mead
Analyst at Johnson Rice

Got it. Thank you for all that detail, Tom.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

You bet.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Derek Whitfield with Texas Capital. Please proceed with your questions.

Derek Whitfield
Derek Whitfield
Analyst at Texas Capital

Good morning, all. And thanks for your time and great acquisition. Thank you. Maybe going back to Charles' point, just on the shift in development activity, I wanted to lean in on your prepared comments on the Oswego.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

While there are a few variables at play, including oil-to-gas ratio and service prices, is there a forward oil-to-gas ratio that we should think about that drives more gas versus oil development, or is it simply 70 for the Oswego?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Yeah. It's just the Oswego's an 80% oil reservoir. And it's a superior oil reservoir than any place I've drilled. But it is limited in how much gas we can get out of it. Anytime you have this tremendous move with gas going up and oil going down, the rates of return just move away from being able to drill Oswegos. We can still have a good rate of return today in the Oswego. Last year, it was 66% IRRs. We could still be north of 30% right now. However, we target at least 50% rates of return in order to drill.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

The other areas we are looking at are at that or higher. The Oswego is not. That is just a very simple rate of return-driven decision. If we had more operating cash flow, we would probably add rigs either more in the natural gas or be flexible in being able to move back and forth. The other thing that our operating team does very good at is keeping our rig cadence in a place where we are only 30 days out from being able to move rigs around. We can release a rig in a month's notice and go to a different area. I think that is very important for us to maintain that. I do not know if that answered your question or not.

Derek Whitfield
Derek Whitfield
Analyst at Texas Capital

It did. Thanks for the clarity there.

Derek Whitfield
Derek Whitfield
Analyst at Texas Capital

Then, again, we're making these changes here on the fly this morning with our model. It does appear full year guidance for oil remains intact based on Q1 strength. On our numbers, it looks like there could be some upside on the BOE side based on productivity that we're seeing in the deep mist development, not necessarily your wells today, but what we've seen across industry. Is that kind of the fair way to think about it? I know that you talked about 2026 being more upside to gas, but these are highly prolific wells that you guys are bringing on.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Yeah. I think this, Kevin, Derek, I think that is a solid way to look at it.

Derek Whitfield
Derek Whitfield
Analyst at Texas Capital

Yeah. All right. Thank you.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

In 2026, our gas production just grows fairly dramatically if we can put two rigs to work in the deep Anadarko. Thanks, guys.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

I appreciate it. I think that play's just getting out to the—I think that play's just getting started. I think you'll see others joining us very quickly.

Derek Whitfield
Derek Whitfield
Analyst at Texas Capital

Terrific. Thanks, guys.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

You bet.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Michael Scialla with Stephens. Please proceed with your questions.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Morning, Tom. Morning, Kevin. I want to see if you could talk about the turn-in lines you had in the first quarter. It looked like about nine operated wells there. Were those all Oswego, or do you have a breakout of those wells?

Kevin White
Kevin White
CFO at Mach Natural Resources

Somebody have a breakout. So it's seven Oswegos. And so the other two were Woodford Condensate.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Okay. So no results in the deep Anadarko yet. I guess, can you talk about what you—

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

No, no. The first well's being drilled right now in the vertical section.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Gotcha.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Can you talk about what you're expecting there in terms of well costs and recoveries?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Oh, sure. The wells are expensive. They'll cost around $13 million. We think we can find basically 5 BCF a section. We're going to have rates of return north of 50%.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Great. If you do keep that second rig—

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

that's a—And Mike, those are three-mile laterals. So 15,000 feet of lateral length.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Right. If you do keep that second rig—

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

the risk of the play, I don't think, is the gas. The gas is in place. The risk will be costs. We have to watch closely what inflation does, where gas prices are. There's a reason that this gas has always been known to be there. Deep Anadarko gas is nothing new.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

It's that Oklahoma has never really been explored horizontally for natural gas, where the gas is, because gas prices since 2008 have basically been a price that you couldn't explore for it. There is a tremendous amount of natural gas left to be discovered or brought online. It's actually been discovered in Western Oklahoma. It has good access to marketing to get to the hub. It's a great place to drill if prices are right. You give me a $3.50 strip, we can bring you—You give me a $3.50 strip, we'll bring you the gas.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Yep. I just wanted to see if a follow-up to that, if you could talk about how it would set up 2026 to where you'd basically grow your gas volumes at the expense of oil. Could you get maybe a little bit more specific?

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

If you do keep that second rig active in the fourth quarter, what could your production mix look like next year? You said it was 54% right now gas. What might that look like for 2026?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Yeah. We'll be growing gas basically over 20%. And crude oil would be falling basically in 2026 by less than 10%.

Michael Scialla
Michael Scialla
Analyst at Stephens

Okay. Great. Thank you, Tom.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of John Freeman with Raymond James. Please proceed with your questions.

John Freeman
John Freeman
Analyst at Raymond James

Good morning, guys. Very nice acquisition. I just want to follow up, Tom, on one point you said earlier regarding the reinvestment rate.

John Freeman
John Freeman
Analyst at Raymond James

Just to be clear, because that really low reinvestment rate you had in Q1, at the current strip, your reinvestment rate on the current plan, we'll call it $270 million at the midpoint of the CapEx, that would still be at about a 50% reinvestment rate. Is that right?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

That's correct.

John Freeman
John Freeman
Analyst at Raymond James

Okay. The oil strip would have to weaken from here for you to not add that second rig that was going to go to the deep gas.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Or the gas strip.

John Freeman
John Freeman
Analyst at Raymond James

Or the gas strip. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Perfect. And then on the M&A topic, I mean, I know last quarter, you talked about how you'd love to buy oil assets if oil was in the $60s or lower. And you talked about, on this call, really wanting to look at some larger deals.

John Freeman
John Freeman
Analyst at Raymond James

Just maybe talk to, I would imagine, in this volatile market, the bid-ask spreads are pretty wide. Maybe you can just speak to that. Do we have to be at this kind of level oil price for a while for those spreads to narrow? Just what you're seeing.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Yeah. We're usually not the seller or the buyer of choice for a seller. There probably needs to have been a fill process of some kind in order to get down to a place to where you have a distressed sale. I think it does take time. It's really nothing new. We always are on the look for larger deals that would bring—we could use equity here to bring in and increase our distribution per unit. It's really not a new concept.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

It just is, it seems like we're getting closer in areas outside of the Mid Con than we have in the past. We've been the high bid on a couple of deals that did not transact because the seller chose to pull them. I can tell you that in the Eagle Ford or the Permian, in the past, we've never been the high bid. Things are moving our way. Just because you're close to the core Permian does not mean you're in it. Just because you're close to the core Eagle Ford does not mean you're in it. That does not mean you can always have the amount. Just because it has that zip code does not mean that it brings the same as those other types of assets. Those are the types of assets we'll look for.

John Freeman
John Freeman
Analyst at Raymond James

Thanks, Tom. Nice quarter.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Our next questions come from the line of Jeff Jay with Daniel Energy Partners. Please proceed with your questions.

Jeff Jay
Analyst at Daniel Energy Partners

Hi, guys. I'm just curious, given the cost of the deep Anadarko wells, sort of where does the strip need to be for you to add that second rig? In other words, where do you feel like the rate of return becomes less attractive at what gas price?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Yeah. I think, Jeff, that if we stay above a $3.50 strip, it's really more about operating cash flow. The wells are going to have plenty of rate of return. It's just that we have stipulated that we can't go over a 50% reinvestment rate. That's what I want as an investor. I think that's what makes us unique. It just keeps us from being able to meet all the locations we have.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

I do not think it is going to be—if gas prices stay anywhere near where they are today or even fell, the project would be fine. It is that we do not have enough operating cash flow to do both.

Jeff Jay
Analyst at Daniel Energy Partners

Got it. I would be remiss if I did not ask if you are incrementally more bullish or less bullish on natural gas for the remainder of this year.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Than last quarter, I would say less bullish. I think that we are in a period of time through the summer, the refill season, that we are still kind of a half a BCF or so tight. I think that the timing as we come into the fall and winter of the two pipes that are coming on in the Haynesville or can get Haynesville gas out, that you have LNG demand kind of front-running that.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

But then I see, at least from our perspective, is that we have a pretty balanced 2026. And you tell me if we're going to go into recession or you have demand from any number of areas that demand is changed through the, I guess, the political system that we're going through. Just as I don't know, I would look, though, at, I guess, probably for the first time since we've started doing these calls, I see natural gas has got a fairly balanced in the year out instead of being extremely bullish.

Jeff Jay
Analyst at Daniel Energy Partners

Right. That's helpful. Thanks, Tom.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you, Jeff.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Simon Akyol with Seaport Global. Please proceed with your questions.

Simon Akyol
Simon Akyol
Analyst at Seaport Global

Hi. Good morning. This is Tim on. Morning. Congrats on the quarter and the acquisition.

Simon Akyol
Simon Akyol
Analyst at Seaport Global

Going back to the acquisition, you guys mentioned, well, in the PowerPoint, there was some midstream and other infrastructure. Just wondering kind of, is this mostly within the mid-cont, or is some of this also up in Wyoming?

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

No. It's really in the midstream is in the Ringwood field in Major County, Oklahoma, and then at Hugoton Basin. I mean, they're very small. It really doesn't add too much to the overall project.

Simon Akyol
Simon Akyol
Analyst at Seaport Global

Okay. Got it. I was just curious on potentially lowering some costs there. And then for lease operating expense, the queue had called out some higher costs related to saltwater disposal. Just curious what you guys are broadly seeing on the waterfront in the mid-cont, or if this was more of a one-off item.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Yeah. I would say stepping outside of where we have infrastructure going to drill in the Anadarko Basin.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

We do have infrastructure there, but it's third-party. So our costs have gone up some there compared to drilling within our Oswego area. That would be the thought there.

Simon Akyol
Simon Akyol
Analyst at Seaport Global

Got it. Thank you, guys, for the time.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you.

Tom Ward
CEO at Mach Natural Resources

Thank you. We have reached the end of our question and answer session. With that, I would like to bring the call to a close. We do appreciate your participation today. You may now disconnect your lines. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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