NYSE:FTS Fortis Q2 2025 Earnings Report $53.06 -0.25 (-0.46%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$53.06 +0.01 (+0.02%) As of 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Fortis EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.55Consensus EPS $0.51Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPS$0.67Fortis Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$2.03 billionExpected Revenue$1.91 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$114.67 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AFortis Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/1/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, August 1, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsFortis' Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, November 3, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Fortis Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: EPS of C$0.76 in Q2 rose C$0.09 year-over-year (YTD C$1.76, up C$0.16) driven by rate-base investments, higher utility earnings and favourable FX revaluations. Positive Sentiment: Nearly C$3 billion of capital expenditures in H1 underpins delivery of safe, reliable energy and supports a forecasted 6.5% average annual rate-base growth to C$53 billion by 2029. Positive Sentiment: Regulatory wins include TEP’s general rate application filing, Central Hudson’s multiyear settlement, ACC testimony backing a 9.75% ROE for UNS Gas and a first-time BBB+ rating from Fitch. Positive Sentiment: TEP secured a 300 MW data center contract (with up to 1,600 MW potential across two sites) that ramps in 2027, boosting retail load growth pending ACC approval and new resource builds. Neutral Sentiment: TEP plans to convert 800 MW of coal-fired capacity at Springerville to natural gas by 2030 (coal-free by 2032) and will reassess its 2030/2035 interim greenhouse gas targets in the next IRP. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallFortis Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. My name is Chuck and I'll be your conference operator. Welcome to the Fortis Inc. Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen-only mode and the conference call is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press * then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing * then zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Stephanie Amaimo, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Ms. Amaimo. Stephanie AmaimoVp, Investor Relations at Fortis Inc.00:00:40Thanks, Chuck, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Fortis Second Quarter 2025 Results Conference Call. I'm joined by David Hutchens, President and CEO, Jocelyn Perry, Executive Vice President and CFO, other members of the senior management team, as well as CEOs from certain subsidiaries. Before we begin today's call, I want to remind you that the discussion will include forward-looking information, which is subject to the cautionary statement contained in the supporting slide show. Actual results can differ materially from the forecast projections included in the forward-looking information presented today. Non-GAAP financial measures referenced in our prepared remarks are reconciled to the related U.S. GAAP financial measures in our Second Quarter 2025 MD&A. Also, unless otherwise specified, all financial information referenced is in Canadian dollars. With that, I will turn the call over to David.​ David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:01:27Thank you and good morning everyone. Today we are pleased to report another great quarter. With capital expenditures of almost $3 billion during the first half of the year, we are executing on our core objective of delivering safe and reliable energy to our customers. Financially, we delivered second quarter earnings per share of $0.76, a $0.09 increase over the same period last year. During the quarter, we also made progress on the regulatory front. Notably, Tucson Electric Power filed its general rate application and Central Hudson reached a multi-year rate settlement agreement on its general rate application. Jocelyn Perry will speak to these regulatory developments in more detail shortly. In Arizona, TEP's retail load growth opportunity advanced with an important milestone reached for a planned data center development. Today we released our 2025 Sustainability Update report highlighting our consistent progress to deliver cleaner energy to our customers. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:02:25Through 2024, we have achieved a 34% reduction in scope 1 greenhouse gas emissions when compared to 2019 levels. In July, the first phase of the Roadrunner Reserve battery storage project was placed in service at TEP. The 200 MW energy storage system will facilitate the integration of renewable energy operations onto the electric grid with the capability to store 800 MWh of energy. This project was part of the $2.9 billion that we invested in the first half of the year. Given this progress, both our annual and five-year capital plans are on track. We are well positioned to deliver on our growth strategy with rate base expected to increase by approximately $14 billion to $53 billion in 2029. This supports average annual rate base growth of 6.5% in Arizona. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:03:19TEP announced that it plans to convert approximately 800 MW of coal-fired generation at Springerville Generating Station to natural gas by 2030. This will allow us to be coal free by our 2032 target. The conversion supports customer affordability, local communities, and reliability as well as our transition to cleaner energy. This, along with many other factors, will impact our resource planning at our Arizona utilities. As a result, we will reassess our 2030 and 2035 interim greenhouse gas targets and share the results. Once complete, we will provide the project details with the release of our 2026-2030 capital plan later this year. New retail load growth opportunities in Arizona continue to advance. TEP just reached an agreement with a data center customer to serve a demand of approximately 300 megawatts that starts to ramp up in 2027 and will use existing and planned capacity. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:04:20This agreement was structured to benefit existing customers, maintain reliability, and ensure the power is supplied consistent with the 2023 Integrated Resource Plan, including solar and storage projects currently in development. This agreement is subject to ACC approval as well as other contractual contingencies. Further negotiations are ongoing for additional capacity to support a full buildout at that initial site of 600 megawatts in total. The project's developer also shared that additional capacity may be required at a second site in the range of 500 to 700 megawatts if negotiations are finalized for these subsequent phases and new generation and transmission investments would be required. Beyond these opportunities in Arizona, our utilities continue to pursue various opportunities to support load growth, improve grid resilience, and facilitate the interconnection of cleaner energy. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:05:21Work is underway at ITC to prepare to bid on projects within the MISO LRTP Tranche 2.1 portfolio, subject to a competitive bidding process. These projects, if awarded to ITC, would be incremental to ITC's estimate of $3.7 to $4.2 billion of capital expenditures for the Tranche 2.1 projects. With a long track record of increasing dividends and our sustainable growth runway, we remain committed to our annual dividend growth guidance of 4% to 6% through 2029. Now I will turn the call over to Jocelyn for an update on our second quarter financial results. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:05:58Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. For the quarter, we reported net earnings of $384 million, or $0.76 per common share, $0.09 higher than the second quarter of 2024. Through year to date, June EPS was $1.76, reflecting a $0.16 increase over the same period last year. EPS growth was mainly driven by rate base investments across our utilities and higher earnings at Central Hudson and FortisBC, which I'll discuss on the next slide. On slide 11, you'll see the highlighted EPS drivers for the quarter by segment. Within our U.S. electric and gas utilities, Central Hudson contributed a $0.04 increase in EPS. This increase largely reflects rate base growth as well as the rebasing of cost and a higher allowed ROE effective July 1, 2024. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:06:51The impact of a contribution to a customer benefit fund in the second quarter of 2024 and the timing of operating costs also supported the increase quarter over quarter. At UNS Energy, the EPS contribution was unchanged from the second quarter of last year. An increase in transmission revenue was offset by regulatory lag. For our Western Canadian utilities, EPS increased $0.03, largely driven by rate base growth, including earnings associated with the Eagle Mountain Pipeline project at FortisAlberta. Timing of operating costs, the expiration of a PBR efficiency mechanism, and a lower allowed ROE of 8.97% effective January 1, 2025, tempered growth quarter over quarter. At our other electric segment, EPS increased $0.02 due to rate base growth, higher electricity sales, as well as the timing of quarterly earnings at Newfoundland Power related to regulatory approvals. While not shown on the slide, financial results at ITC Holdings Corp Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:07:53were largely consistent with the second quarter of 2024, as rate base growth was offset by higher stock-based compensation and higher holding company finance costs. Foreign exchange gains associated with the revaluation of U.S. dollar denominated liabilities contributed a $0.02 EPS increase for the quarter. For the corporate and other segment, the decrease reflects the timing of income tax recoveries and higher finance costs, partially offset by mark-to-market gains on foreign exchange contracts. Finally, higher weighted average shares lowered EPS by $0.01, driven by shares issued under our dividend reinvestment plan. While most of the factors discussed for the quarter are the same for the year to date period, lower margin on wholesale sales due to market conditions tempered earnings at UNS on a year to date basis. All in all, a very strong first half of 2025. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:08:51Through June, we raised over $1 billion of debt to repay borrowings and to fund our capital program. As we discussed last quarter, our five-year capital funding plan remains intact with a healthy participation from our dividend reinvestment plan. Our $500 million ATM program has not been utilized to date and remains available for funding. Flexibility is required. During the quarter, Fitch assigned Fortis Inc. a first-time BBB credit rating. This new rating underscores Fortis Inc.'s strong overall credit profile and will support cost-effective capital market funding options. With S&P, we remain focused on highlighting our key initiatives around addressing physical and climate risk. In July, we implemented a public safety power shutoff (PSPS) plan at FortisBC for high-risk areas within its service territory. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:09:44This builds on the PSPS plans already implemented earlier this year in Alberta and Arizona, as well as the wildfire legislation passed in Arizona. Turning now to recent regulatory activity, in June TEP filed its general rate application with the ACC seeking new retail rates effective September 1, 2026. The application includes rate base of US$4.3 billion, representing an increase of approximately US$750 million since the last rate case. The increase is largely driven by investments in grid upgrades and new energy resources to maintain reliability, improve resilience, and serve expanding energy needs. The application proposes to phase out or eliminate certain adjuster mechanisms and request an annual formula rate adjustment consistent with the ACC's Formula Rate Policy Statement issued in 2024. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:10:46If approved by the ACC, the Formula Rate Plan is expected to improve rate stability for our customers, reduce regulatory and administrative burden, as well as simplify the number of adjuster mechanisms. The formula is also expected to allow for timely recovery of prudent investments and costs within plus or minus 20 basis points of TEP's allowed return. While not shown on the slide, UNS gas rate case continues to progress. In July, the ACC staff filed testimony recommending an allowed ROE of 9.75% and use of an annual formula rate adjustment with an ROE dead band within plus or minus 50 basis points. Lastly, in June, Central Hudson filed a constructive joint proposal with the New York Public Service Commission in relation to its general rate application. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:11:40The joint proposal provides for a three-year rate plan with retroactive application to July 1, 2025, an allowed ROE of 9.5% and a common equity ratio of 48%. An order is expected in the second half of 2025, and with that I'll now turn the call back to David. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:12:01Thank you, Jocelyn. In conclusion, strong results for the first half of the year, progress on the regulatory front, and advancements of our growth opportunities beyond the plan position us nicely for the remainder of 2025 and beyond as we finalize our next five-year capital plan to be released later this year. We remain focused on continuing to deliver reliable and affordable service to our customers and compelling long-term returns to our shareholders. That concludes my remarks. I will now turn the call back over to Stephanie. Stephanie AmaimoVp, Investor Relations at Fortis Inc.00:12:33Thank you, David. This concludes the presentation. At this time, I'd like to open the call to address questions from the investment community. Operator00:12:40Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press Star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press Star then two. Our first question will come from Rob Hope with Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Operator00:13:04Morning everyone. Regarding Arizona. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:13:08Excellent. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:13:09Regarding the Arizona data center opportunity, when we look at the incremental 300 megawatts of the first site and the 500 to 700 megawatts at the other site, how quickly could you develop generation to support these assets? Is this a key gating factor at this point? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:13:28Yeah, that's a great question, Rob. I've got Susan sitting here next to me to provide a little color. As you know, that first 300 megawatts is using existing and planned capacity. That's always great to be able to serve them as quick as we can. Hopefully they're on the same timeline as we have disclosed on the 2027 time period. We have that first 300 sort of under our belt to get them situated there. Susan, if you want to provide a little color on what we're thinking timeline wise for adding the generation and the transmission interconnections we need for the next 300 at that initial site, sure. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:14:06Good morning, Rob. Thanks for the question. As Dave said, the first 300 megawatts are capacity that we're already building, and the second 300 will be. We'll go through our all source RFP process. We also announced that we're looking at a green tariff with Beal. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:14:27It'll depend on what kind. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:14:31The goal is to be in service with that second 300 megawatts in that 2030 to 2031 timeframe. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:14:41All right, that's great. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:14:44When you take a look at your entire system and relative to the existing capital plan, would it be fair to assume that we're seeing the greatest upside potential in Arizona and ITC. As we take a look at kind of the 2026 plan later this year, are there other key areas we should be looking at where we're seeing probably some outperformance? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:15:08Yeah, I think you hit the nail right on the head there. We do see some, and you'll see that in sort of our beyond the plan list. There's a lot at ITC Holdings Corp., quite a bit at Arizona as well. We continue to look across the entire footprint. We've got some additional opportunities in BC related to LNG export facilities, et cetera. Across the rest of our footprint we're looking at opportunities as well. Those are the two big ones, but we've got, I think, irons in the fire across the entire portfolio. Thank you. Thanks, Rob. Operator00:15:45The next question will come from Maurice Choy with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:15:51Thanks, and good morning everyone. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:15:53Just wanted to touch on the Springerville position in your slides. You mentioned that it may take Fortis a longer time to achieve its entry targets. Alongside the conversion of Springerville, you're not expecting a material impact to your five year plan. From these statements, is it fair to assume that the cost of conversion, which I assume has elevated over the past few months, roughly matches some form of renewables to storage in your current IRP? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:16:29Yeah, there's a bunch of puts and takes that are going to be going on here, and that's kind of why we're getting ready to do our next integrated resource plan in Arizona next year. In our five-year capital plan, we'll lay out all those puts and takes that we have in the capital plan. Obviously, this is a great affordability story for our customers to be able to use existing steel in the ground. Also, that's steel in the ground that's already there, so you don't have to get in line to buy it from somebody else. It also has the transmission assets to bring it in, so you don't need additional interconnections. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:09Of course, probably one of the best benefits that we see around that is the overall affordability to our customers and just having those additional jobs in a community that's been so important to TEP over these several decades. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:24Maybe as a quick follow-up to. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:26Is there any potential for Four Corners to also be converted to gas just as Springerville is going to? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:37Yeah, that's not, I don't think we've looked at that. There's always, I guess, potentials. This is a time, I think, where a lot of folks are looking at repowering existing coal plants. The reason that we were able to do this at Springerville is we had one of our partners, both was a partner in Springerville, but also has a coal generating station down the road from Springerville, Coronado. That Salt River Project is, you know, being able to partner with someone to make it economic to build a gas pipeline that gets down there. Once it gets down there, hopefully other folks are using it as well. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:17Understood. If I could just finish off with a quick question on my favorite province in Canada, which is BC. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:26I wonder if I could have your. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:28Latest thoughts on the landscape and outlook for gas infrastructure in the province, particularly given the push for energy infrastructure in the country and seemingly an alignment on gas amongst federal, provincial and Indigenous leaders, and what this all means for FortisBC. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:45Perfect. I'll turn that over to Roger. Before I do, just for full disclosure, Maurice, the teams are here in Vancouver, so we now recognize how early it is for you to get up for these calls. Go ahead, Roger. Morning, Maurice. Roger Dall'AntoniaCEO at FortisBC00:19:01Thanks for the question. I would say, much like Canada, BC is a bit of a pivot where they're embracing gas, in particular the LNG opportunity. As you know, we're pursuing expansion of our LNG bunkering opportunity and we have our LNG storage tank regulatory process ongoing. Directionally, we see that as positive as far as gas connections and our domestic infrastructure. CleanBC, which is the signature policy that is dictating issues like client standards, building code standards, which is the policy that municipalities are using to constrain new gas connections in new buildings, is in the midst of a review and that will come out later this year. I think that will be the first key signpost to understand how the focus on export of LNG translates into a domestic gas agenda. More to come on that. Roger Dall'AntoniaCEO at FortisBC00:20:13Great. Thank you very much, everyone. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:20:15Thanks, Maurice. Operator00:20:17The next question will come from Ben Pham with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:20:24Hi. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:20:25Thanks. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:20:25Good morning. Maybe going back to the Arizona data center updates and maybe more broadly on the industry overall, this additional second site that you flagged, did this materialize with you potentially just during the last couple months or was it always in the cards? We had discussions. Maybe on a broader level, can you comment on your pace of discussions with the data center companies? Have their power needs expanded recently? Has it gone to maybe more jurisdictions than you had anticipated? How do you think about the pace of announcements going forward? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:21:11Yeah, sure. I'll turn that over to Susan to answer. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:21:14Good morning, Ben. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:21:15Yeah, the data center that we've. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:21:17been reporting on this. We were just lumping it all into one total number for capacity, and now, as we bring forth more detail on the project, we're just representing that it will be broken into separate sites. First, building out the first 300 that we signed the contract for in July, and then up to 600 megawatts at that first site, and the second site is another 500 to 700 megawatts. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:21:46So it's. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:21:47It's all the same project that we've been talking about for a while. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:21:54What was the second half of your question there, Ben? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:21:58Yeah, maybe you can extend it to a broader thought process and the pace of discussions the customer needs. Have they changed materially over the last three months? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:22:11Yeah, we do have a long queue of projects in Arizona that are behind this initial project, but when we only have so much capacity, you have to give it to the first folks in line. That puts the rest of the negotiations on ice until you can figure out how you can develop additional resources after the first one takes this 300 megawatts. To Susan's point, there are a lot of details and a lot of conversations that we have with folks in the queue, particularly the one here at the top of the queue. We're basically allowed now, because it's getting public information, to show how those different megawatts are broken out by sites, etc. Prior to that, of course, and we still are under an NDA for any details that they're not allowing us to release or that they haven't released. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:23:09It's just filling in the gaps as we get along on the road a little bit further, and also as they're finalizing their plans as well. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:23:21Okay, that's great. My second one, on the OABBA legislation, you had a bit more visibility on how things are shaking out. Can you comment impact on Fortis? I'm thinking more renewables and rate base, ITC, that impact, and then anything else that you may have found in the legislation. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:23:47Yeah, so overall there was not a lot of impact from one big beautiful bill act that was passed. You know, corporate tax obviously didn't change. You know, we have, obviously, a few weeks ago, we were talking a lot about that 899 section, which luckily didn't make it in. Obviously, the renewable energy credit reductions and phase out there, that doesn't really have much of a near term impact for UNS given where they're at in their cycle of projects. However, on a going forward basis, it just changes the calculus of RFPs and options as you go forward. It just creates obviously different economic outcomes. When those credits aren't in there for renewables and storage, I think we'll see a longer term impact related to that. There's nothing really that we can quantify. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:24:48Obviously, the tax credits don't necessarily, they make those projects more cost effective for our customers because of the credit. That's something we'll have to consider. ITC really isn't impacted again in the short term either. Remember those LRTP tranche 2.1 projects that were allocated to ITC? I mean they're done, done, dusted and given to ITC to build. There's not any impact there. I would say longer term, when you think about the implications of reduced renewable energy and storage development, it might change the mix of generation. Will it be less renewables? Obviously, fossil generation is a bit in vogue again, particularly natural gas to build, to fill all the data center needs and growth opportunities. That's just different generation that ITC would be interconnecting. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:25:49Right. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:25:49As you know, take gas or renewables, we still have to build transmission to serve all this additional load that's being talked about, whether it's data centers, manufacturing, or the continuation on the clean energy transition that so many utilities have started. Longer term we'll see how it plays out, but in this short run it's very, very limited impact. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:26:14Okay, that's great. Thank you for the update. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:26:17Thanks Ben. Operator00:26:19Again, if you have a question, please press Star then one. Our next question will come from Richard Sunderland with JPMorgan Securities LLC. Please go ahead. Operator00:26:28Hey, good morning. There's been discussion of new interstate pipeline capacity into Arizona. I'm curious if UNS is involved in discussions here and if you have a need as you begin building gas plants. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:26:47For the Springerville repowering one, that's the, yeah, we have had those conversations and all that's additional public information about, you know, obviously we got to get gas to Springerville and that was the big kind of nut to crack to figure out how to do that economically. As I mentioned earlier, it's great to have a partner like Salt River Project and being an off taker for that as well. That's the one that we've got in the queue now, or not in the queue, the discussions to get it in the queue now. Operator00:27:21Understood. Operator00:27:22I guess just again, same topic. Looking into the 2030s, do you see a growing need there? It seems like the state's probably in an okay position for the next three or four years, but the next decade is probably a little different. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:27:38Yeah, that's the calculus we have to look at. Right. When we look at our Integrated Resource Plan next year down in Arizona, this is not static. Remember three years ago is when we did the last Integrated Resource Plan. As we look going forward, it's going to be a very different load curve that we have to serve. That's what we'll look at and then stack up the resources that we need. I'm sure natural gas will be a part of it, obviously. Renewables and storage will be a part of it. All of those things kind of go into that mix from a long term perspective. It's all a bit TBD at this point. At the end of the day, infrastructure is going to be needed across our sector and frankly everyone that serves our sector. Right. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:28:28If there's additional gas needs for generation, there's going to be likely additional pipeline needs as well. That also goes into that long term planning process. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:28:40Appreciate the commentary. I'll leave it there, thank you. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:28:44Thanks, Richard. Operator00:28:47This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Amaimo for any closing remarks. Please go ahead. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:28:55Thank you, Chuck. Stephanie AmaimoVp, Investor Relations at Fortis Inc.00:28:56We have nothing further at this time. Thank you everyone for participating in our second quarter results conference call. Please contact IR should you need anything further, and have a great day. Operator00:29:06This brings today's conference call to a close. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRoger Dall'AntoniaCEODavid HutchensPresident and CEOStephanie AmaimoVp, Investor RelationsJocelyn PerryEVP and CFOAnalystsAnalyst 4Analyst 2Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy CorporationAnalyst 1Analyst 3Powered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release Fortis Earnings HeadlinesFortis Inc. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. My name is Chuck and I'll be your conference operator. Welcome to the Fortis Inc. Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen-only mode and the conference call is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press * then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing * then zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Stephanie Amaimo, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Ms. Amaimo. Stephanie AmaimoVp, Investor Relations at Fortis Inc.00:00:40Thanks, Chuck, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Fortis Second Quarter 2025 Results Conference Call. I'm joined by David Hutchens, President and CEO, Jocelyn Perry, Executive Vice President and CFO, other members of the senior management team, as well as CEOs from certain subsidiaries. Before we begin today's call, I want to remind you that the discussion will include forward-looking information, which is subject to the cautionary statement contained in the supporting slide show. Actual results can differ materially from the forecast projections included in the forward-looking information presented today. Non-GAAP financial measures referenced in our prepared remarks are reconciled to the related U.S. GAAP financial measures in our Second Quarter 2025 MD&A. Also, unless otherwise specified, all financial information referenced is in Canadian dollars. With that, I will turn the call over to David.​ David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:01:27Thank you and good morning everyone. Today we are pleased to report another great quarter. With capital expenditures of almost $3 billion during the first half of the year, we are executing on our core objective of delivering safe and reliable energy to our customers. Financially, we delivered second quarter earnings per share of $0.76, a $0.09 increase over the same period last year. During the quarter, we also made progress on the regulatory front. Notably, Tucson Electric Power filed its general rate application and Central Hudson reached a multi-year rate settlement agreement on its general rate application. Jocelyn Perry will speak to these regulatory developments in more detail shortly. In Arizona, TEP's retail load growth opportunity advanced with an important milestone reached for a planned data center development. Today we released our 2025 Sustainability Update report highlighting our consistent progress to deliver cleaner energy to our customers. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:02:25Through 2024, we have achieved a 34% reduction in scope 1 greenhouse gas emissions when compared to 2019 levels. In July, the first phase of the Roadrunner Reserve battery storage project was placed in service at TEP. The 200 MW energy storage system will facilitate the integration of renewable energy operations onto the electric grid with the capability to store 800 MWh of energy. This project was part of the $2.9 billion that we invested in the first half of the year. Given this progress, both our annual and five-year capital plans are on track. We are well positioned to deliver on our growth strategy with rate base expected to increase by approximately $14 billion to $53 billion in 2029. This supports average annual rate base growth of 6.5% in Arizona. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:03:19TEP announced that it plans to convert approximately 800 MW of coal-fired generation at Springerville Generating Station to natural gas by 2030. This will allow us to be coal free by our 2032 target. The conversion supports customer affordability, local communities, and reliability as well as our transition to cleaner energy. This, along with many other factors, will impact our resource planning at our Arizona utilities. As a result, we will reassess our 2030 and 2035 interim greenhouse gas targets and share the results. Once complete, we will provide the project details with the release of our 2026-2030 capital plan later this year. New retail load growth opportunities in Arizona continue to advance. TEP just reached an agreement with a data center customer to serve a demand of approximately 300 megawatts that starts to ramp up in 2027 and will use existing and planned capacity. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:04:20This agreement was structured to benefit existing customers, maintain reliability, and ensure the power is supplied consistent with the 2023 Integrated Resource Plan, including solar and storage projects currently in development. This agreement is subject to ACC approval as well as other contractual contingencies. Further negotiations are ongoing for additional capacity to support a full buildout at that initial site of 600 megawatts in total. The project's developer also shared that additional capacity may be required at a second site in the range of 500 to 700 megawatts if negotiations are finalized for these subsequent phases and new generation and transmission investments would be required. Beyond these opportunities in Arizona, our utilities continue to pursue various opportunities to support load growth, improve grid resilience, and facilitate the interconnection of cleaner energy. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:05:21Work is underway at ITC to prepare to bid on projects within the MISO LRTP Tranche 2.1 portfolio, subject to a competitive bidding process. These projects, if awarded to ITC, would be incremental to ITC's estimate of $3.7 to $4.2 billion of capital expenditures for the Tranche 2.1 projects. With a long track record of increasing dividends and our sustainable growth runway, we remain committed to our annual dividend growth guidance of 4% to 6% through 2029. Now I will turn the call over to Jocelyn for an update on our second quarter financial results. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:05:58Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. For the quarter, we reported net earnings of $384 million, or $0.76 per common share, $0.09 higher than the second quarter of 2024. Through year to date, June EPS was $1.76, reflecting a $0.16 increase over the same period last year. EPS growth was mainly driven by rate base investments across our utilities and higher earnings at Central Hudson and FortisBC, which I'll discuss on the next slide. On slide 11, you'll see the highlighted EPS drivers for the quarter by segment. Within our U.S. electric and gas utilities, Central Hudson contributed a $0.04 increase in EPS. This increase largely reflects rate base growth as well as the rebasing of cost and a higher allowed ROE effective July 1, 2024. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:06:51The impact of a contribution to a customer benefit fund in the second quarter of 2024 and the timing of operating costs also supported the increase quarter over quarter. At UNS Energy, the EPS contribution was unchanged from the second quarter of last year. An increase in transmission revenue was offset by regulatory lag. For our Western Canadian utilities, EPS increased $0.03, largely driven by rate base growth, including earnings associated with the Eagle Mountain Pipeline project at FortisAlberta. Timing of operating costs, the expiration of a PBR efficiency mechanism, and a lower allowed ROE of 8.97% effective January 1, 2025, tempered growth quarter over quarter. At our other electric segment, EPS increased $0.02 due to rate base growth, higher electricity sales, as well as the timing of quarterly earnings at Newfoundland Power related to regulatory approvals. While not shown on the slide, financial results at ITC Holdings Corp Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:07:53were largely consistent with the second quarter of 2024, as rate base growth was offset by higher stock-based compensation and higher holding company finance costs. Foreign exchange gains associated with the revaluation of U.S. dollar denominated liabilities contributed a $0.02 EPS increase for the quarter. For the corporate and other segment, the decrease reflects the timing of income tax recoveries and higher finance costs, partially offset by mark-to-market gains on foreign exchange contracts. Finally, higher weighted average shares lowered EPS by $0.01, driven by shares issued under our dividend reinvestment plan. While most of the factors discussed for the quarter are the same for the year to date period, lower margin on wholesale sales due to market conditions tempered earnings at UNS on a year to date basis. All in all, a very strong first half of 2025. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:08:51Through June, we raised over $1 billion of debt to repay borrowings and to fund our capital program. As we discussed last quarter, our five-year capital funding plan remains intact with a healthy participation from our dividend reinvestment plan. Our $500 million ATM program has not been utilized to date and remains available for funding. Flexibility is required. During the quarter, Fitch assigned Fortis Inc. a first-time BBB credit rating. This new rating underscores Fortis Inc.'s strong overall credit profile and will support cost-effective capital market funding options. With S&P, we remain focused on highlighting our key initiatives around addressing physical and climate risk. In July, we implemented a public safety power shutoff (PSPS) plan at FortisBC for high-risk areas within its service territory. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:09:44This builds on the PSPS plans already implemented earlier this year in Alberta and Arizona, as well as the wildfire legislation passed in Arizona. Turning now to recent regulatory activity, in June TEP filed its general rate application with the ACC seeking new retail rates effective September 1, 2026. The application includes rate base of US$4.3 billion, representing an increase of approximately US$750 million since the last rate case. The increase is largely driven by investments in grid upgrades and new energy resources to maintain reliability, improve resilience, and serve expanding energy needs. The application proposes to phase out or eliminate certain adjuster mechanisms and request an annual formula rate adjustment consistent with the ACC's Formula Rate Policy Statement issued in 2024. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:10:46If approved by the ACC, the Formula Rate Plan is expected to improve rate stability for our customers, reduce regulatory and administrative burden, as well as simplify the number of adjuster mechanisms. The formula is also expected to allow for timely recovery of prudent investments and costs within plus or minus 20 basis points of TEP's allowed return. While not shown on the slide, UNS gas rate case continues to progress. In July, the ACC staff filed testimony recommending an allowed ROE of 9.75% and use of an annual formula rate adjustment with an ROE dead band within plus or minus 50 basis points. Lastly, in June, Central Hudson filed a constructive joint proposal with the New York Public Service Commission in relation to its general rate application. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:11:40The joint proposal provides for a three-year rate plan with retroactive application to July 1, 2025, an allowed ROE of 9.5% and a common equity ratio of 48%. An order is expected in the second half of 2025, and with that I'll now turn the call back to David. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:12:01Thank you, Jocelyn. In conclusion, strong results for the first half of the year, progress on the regulatory front, and advancements of our growth opportunities beyond the plan position us nicely for the remainder of 2025 and beyond as we finalize our next five-year capital plan to be released later this year. We remain focused on continuing to deliver reliable and affordable service to our customers and compelling long-term returns to our shareholders. That concludes my remarks. I will now turn the call back over to Stephanie. Stephanie AmaimoVp, Investor Relations at Fortis Inc.00:12:33Thank you, David. This concludes the presentation. At this time, I'd like to open the call to address questions from the investment community. Operator00:12:40Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press Star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press Star then two. Our first question will come from Rob Hope with Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Operator00:13:04Morning everyone. Regarding Arizona. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:13:08Excellent. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:13:09Regarding the Arizona data center opportunity, when we look at the incremental 300 megawatts of the first site and the 500 to 700 megawatts at the other site, how quickly could you develop generation to support these assets? Is this a key gating factor at this point? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:13:28Yeah, that's a great question, Rob. I've got Susan sitting here next to me to provide a little color. As you know, that first 300 megawatts is using existing and planned capacity. That's always great to be able to serve them as quick as we can. Hopefully they're on the same timeline as we have disclosed on the 2027 time period. We have that first 300 sort of under our belt to get them situated there. Susan, if you want to provide a little color on what we're thinking timeline wise for adding the generation and the transmission interconnections we need for the next 300 at that initial site, sure. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:14:06Good morning, Rob. Thanks for the question. As Dave said, the first 300 megawatts are capacity that we're already building, and the second 300 will be. We'll go through our all source RFP process. We also announced that we're looking at a green tariff with Beal. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:14:27It'll depend on what kind. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:14:31The goal is to be in service with that second 300 megawatts in that 2030 to 2031 timeframe. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:14:41All right, that's great. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:14:44When you take a look at your entire system and relative to the existing capital plan, would it be fair to assume that we're seeing the greatest upside potential in Arizona and ITC. As we take a look at kind of the 2026 plan later this year, are there other key areas we should be looking at where we're seeing probably some outperformance? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:15:08Yeah, I think you hit the nail right on the head there. We do see some, and you'll see that in sort of our beyond the plan list. There's a lot at ITC Holdings Corp., quite a bit at Arizona as well. We continue to look across the entire footprint. We've got some additional opportunities in BC related to LNG export facilities, et cetera. Across the rest of our footprint we're looking at opportunities as well. Those are the two big ones, but we've got, I think, irons in the fire across the entire portfolio. Thank you. Thanks, Rob. Operator00:15:45The next question will come from Maurice Choy with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:15:51Thanks, and good morning everyone. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:15:53Just wanted to touch on the Springerville position in your slides. You mentioned that it may take Fortis a longer time to achieve its entry targets. Alongside the conversion of Springerville, you're not expecting a material impact to your five year plan. From these statements, is it fair to assume that the cost of conversion, which I assume has elevated over the past few months, roughly matches some form of renewables to storage in your current IRP? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:16:29Yeah, there's a bunch of puts and takes that are going to be going on here, and that's kind of why we're getting ready to do our next integrated resource plan in Arizona next year. In our five-year capital plan, we'll lay out all those puts and takes that we have in the capital plan. Obviously, this is a great affordability story for our customers to be able to use existing steel in the ground. Also, that's steel in the ground that's already there, so you don't have to get in line to buy it from somebody else. It also has the transmission assets to bring it in, so you don't need additional interconnections. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:09Of course, probably one of the best benefits that we see around that is the overall affordability to our customers and just having those additional jobs in a community that's been so important to TEP over these several decades. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:24Maybe as a quick follow-up to. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:26Is there any potential for Four Corners to also be converted to gas just as Springerville is going to? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:17:37Yeah, that's not, I don't think we've looked at that. There's always, I guess, potentials. This is a time, I think, where a lot of folks are looking at repowering existing coal plants. The reason that we were able to do this at Springerville is we had one of our partners, both was a partner in Springerville, but also has a coal generating station down the road from Springerville, Coronado. That Salt River Project is, you know, being able to partner with someone to make it economic to build a gas pipeline that gets down there. Once it gets down there, hopefully other folks are using it as well. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:17Understood. If I could just finish off with a quick question on my favorite province in Canada, which is BC. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:26I wonder if I could have your. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:28Latest thoughts on the landscape and outlook for gas infrastructure in the province, particularly given the push for energy infrastructure in the country and seemingly an alignment on gas amongst federal, provincial and Indigenous leaders, and what this all means for FortisBC. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:18:45Perfect. I'll turn that over to Roger. Before I do, just for full disclosure, Maurice, the teams are here in Vancouver, so we now recognize how early it is for you to get up for these calls. Go ahead, Roger. Morning, Maurice. Roger Dall'AntoniaCEO at FortisBC00:19:01Thanks for the question. I would say, much like Canada, BC is a bit of a pivot where they're embracing gas, in particular the LNG opportunity. As you know, we're pursuing expansion of our LNG bunkering opportunity and we have our LNG storage tank regulatory process ongoing. Directionally, we see that as positive as far as gas connections and our domestic infrastructure. CleanBC, which is the signature policy that is dictating issues like client standards, building code standards, which is the policy that municipalities are using to constrain new gas connections in new buildings, is in the midst of a review and that will come out later this year. I think that will be the first key signpost to understand how the focus on export of LNG translates into a domestic gas agenda. More to come on that. Roger Dall'AntoniaCEO at FortisBC00:20:13Great. Thank you very much, everyone. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:20:15Thanks, Maurice. Operator00:20:17The next question will come from Ben Pham with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:20:24Hi. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:20:25Thanks. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:20:25Good morning. Maybe going back to the Arizona data center updates and maybe more broadly on the industry overall, this additional second site that you flagged, did this materialize with you potentially just during the last couple months or was it always in the cards? We had discussions. Maybe on a broader level, can you comment on your pace of discussions with the data center companies? Have their power needs expanded recently? Has it gone to maybe more jurisdictions than you had anticipated? How do you think about the pace of announcements going forward? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:21:11Yeah, sure. I'll turn that over to Susan to answer. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:21:14Good morning, Ben. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:21:15Yeah, the data center that we've. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:21:17been reporting on this. We were just lumping it all into one total number for capacity, and now, as we bring forth more detail on the project, we're just representing that it will be broken into separate sites. First, building out the first 300 that we signed the contract for in July, and then up to 600 megawatts at that first site, and the second site is another 500 to 700 megawatts. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:21:46So it's. Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy Corporation00:21:47It's all the same project that we've been talking about for a while. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:21:54What was the second half of your question there, Ben? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:21:58Yeah, maybe you can extend it to a broader thought process and the pace of discussions the customer needs. Have they changed materially over the last three months? David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:22:11Yeah, we do have a long queue of projects in Arizona that are behind this initial project, but when we only have so much capacity, you have to give it to the first folks in line. That puts the rest of the negotiations on ice until you can figure out how you can develop additional resources after the first one takes this 300 megawatts. To Susan's point, there are a lot of details and a lot of conversations that we have with folks in the queue, particularly the one here at the top of the queue. We're basically allowed now, because it's getting public information, to show how those different megawatts are broken out by sites, etc. Prior to that, of course, and we still are under an NDA for any details that they're not allowing us to release or that they haven't released. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:23:09It's just filling in the gaps as we get along on the road a little bit further, and also as they're finalizing their plans as well. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:23:21Okay, that's great. My second one, on the OABBA legislation, you had a bit more visibility on how things are shaking out. Can you comment impact on Fortis? I'm thinking more renewables and rate base, ITC, that impact, and then anything else that you may have found in the legislation. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:23:47Yeah, so overall there was not a lot of impact from one big beautiful bill act that was passed. You know, corporate tax obviously didn't change. You know, we have, obviously, a few weeks ago, we were talking a lot about that 899 section, which luckily didn't make it in. Obviously, the renewable energy credit reductions and phase out there, that doesn't really have much of a near term impact for UNS given where they're at in their cycle of projects. However, on a going forward basis, it just changes the calculus of RFPs and options as you go forward. It just creates obviously different economic outcomes. When those credits aren't in there for renewables and storage, I think we'll see a longer term impact related to that. There's nothing really that we can quantify. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:24:48Obviously, the tax credits don't necessarily, they make those projects more cost effective for our customers because of the credit. That's something we'll have to consider. ITC really isn't impacted again in the short term either. Remember those LRTP tranche 2.1 projects that were allocated to ITC? I mean they're done, done, dusted and given to ITC to build. There's not any impact there. I would say longer term, when you think about the implications of reduced renewable energy and storage development, it might change the mix of generation. Will it be less renewables? Obviously, fossil generation is a bit in vogue again, particularly natural gas to build, to fill all the data center needs and growth opportunities. That's just different generation that ITC would be interconnecting. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:25:49Right. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:25:49As you know, take gas or renewables, we still have to build transmission to serve all this additional load that's being talked about, whether it's data centers, manufacturing, or the continuation on the clean energy transition that so many utilities have started. Longer term we'll see how it plays out, but in this short run it's very, very limited impact. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:26:14Okay, that's great. Thank you for the update. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:26:17Thanks Ben. Operator00:26:19Again, if you have a question, please press Star then one. Our next question will come from Richard Sunderland with JPMorgan Securities LLC. Please go ahead. Operator00:26:28Hey, good morning. There's been discussion of new interstate pipeline capacity into Arizona. I'm curious if UNS is involved in discussions here and if you have a need as you begin building gas plants. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:26:47For the Springerville repowering one, that's the, yeah, we have had those conversations and all that's additional public information about, you know, obviously we got to get gas to Springerville and that was the big kind of nut to crack to figure out how to do that economically. As I mentioned earlier, it's great to have a partner like Salt River Project and being an off taker for that as well. That's the one that we've got in the queue now, or not in the queue, the discussions to get it in the queue now. Operator00:27:21Understood. Operator00:27:22I guess just again, same topic. Looking into the 2030s, do you see a growing need there? It seems like the state's probably in an okay position for the next three or four years, but the next decade is probably a little different. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:27:38Yeah, that's the calculus we have to look at. Right. When we look at our Integrated Resource Plan next year down in Arizona, this is not static. Remember three years ago is when we did the last Integrated Resource Plan. As we look going forward, it's going to be a very different load curve that we have to serve. That's what we'll look at and then stack up the resources that we need. I'm sure natural gas will be a part of it, obviously. Renewables and storage will be a part of it. All of those things kind of go into that mix from a long term perspective. It's all a bit TBD at this point. At the end of the day, infrastructure is going to be needed across our sector and frankly everyone that serves our sector. Right. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:28:28If there's additional gas needs for generation, there's going to be likely additional pipeline needs as well. That also goes into that long term planning process. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:28:40Appreciate the commentary. I'll leave it there, thank you. David HutchensPresident and CEO at Fortis Inc.00:28:44Thanks, Richard. Operator00:28:47This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Amaimo for any closing remarks. Please go ahead. Jocelyn PerryEVP and CFO at Fortis Inc.00:28:55Thank you, Chuck. Stephanie AmaimoVp, Investor Relations at Fortis Inc.00:28:56We have nothing further at this time. Thank you everyone for participating in our second quarter results conference call. Please contact IR should you need anything further, and have a great day. Operator00:29:06This brings today's conference call to a close. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRoger Dall'AntoniaCEODavid HutchensPresident and CEOStephanie AmaimoVp, Investor RelationsJocelyn PerryEVP and CFOAnalystsAnalyst 4Analyst 2Susan GrayCEO at UNS Energy CorporationAnalyst 1Analyst 3Powered by