Turkcell Iletisim Hizmetleri AS Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Turkcell reported TRY 53 bn in Q2 revenue (+12% YoY), TRY 23 bn EBITDA (+15% YoY, 43.5% margin) and net income of TRY 4.4 bn (+37% YoY).
  • Positive Sentiment: Mobile segment delivered its highest postpaid net additions in over five years at 816 k, lifting postpaid to 78% of subscribers and driving ARPU up 9.8%.
  • Positive Sentiment: Strategic businesses saw robust growth: data center & cloud services revenue surged 53%, digital business services +39%, and Paycell mobile payments +36% YoY.
  • Negative Sentiment: Investment in the TOGG automotive venture resulted in a TRY 1.2 bn loss in Q2, with no profit expected in the short term.
  • Neutral Sentiment: The company reiterated full-year guidance (7–9% real growth, 30.5% inflation assumption) and plans higher H2 CapEx focused on 5G readiness, fiber expansion and data center capacity.
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Earnings Conference Call
Turkcell Iletisim Hizmetleri AS Q2 2025
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There are 6 speakers on the call.

Speaker 5

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. I am your radio call operator. Welcome and thank you for joining Turkcell's conference call and live webcast to present and discuss Turkcell's second quarter 2025 financial results. All participants will be in a listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a question and answer session. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on your telephone. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mrs. Ozlem Yardim, Investor Relations and Corporate Finance Director. Mrs. Yardim, you may now proceed.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Ozlem. Hello everyone, and welcome to Turkcell's 2025 second quarter earnings call. On the call today, we have our CEO, Ali Taha Koç, and CFO, Kamil Kalyon. They will provide an overview of our operational and financial results for the quarter, followed by a Q&A session. Before we begin, I would like to kindly remind you to review our safe harbor statement, which is available at the end of our presentation. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Ali Taha.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Ozlem. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report that we have once again delivered a strong set of results this quarter. Let me briefly review our overall results and outstanding performances of some key metrics. Our top line reached ₺53 billion, reflecting another remarkable double-digit year-on-year growth of 12%. This was primarily driven by strong ARPU performance and significant expansion of the mobile subscriber base, particularly in the postpaid domain. Group EBITDA rose by 15% year-on-year to ₺23 billion, with a solid margin of 43.5%, mainly supported by strong operational leverage. Our impressive operational profitability, coupled with effective financial risk management, resulted in net income from continuing operations of ₺4.4 billion, an increase of 37% year-on-year. The market remained highly competitive throughout the quarter. In response, we took targeted actions where necessary, while staying aligned with our long-term strategic priorities.

Speaker 1

As a result of these efforts, we achieved 816,000 postpaid net additions during this quarter, marking our highest net addition in over five years, while recording high single ARPU growth. In our strategic areas, we continue to deliver robust performance. Our Data Center and Cloud Services continue to scale, posting strong growth of 53%, while our TechFin business also maintains its momentum. Next page, please. Now, I will continue with the operational overview. Competitive dynamics in the mobile market remain in line with our expectations and continue at a similar pace as the past year. As the market leader, we took selective actions in response to competitive pressures, maintaining a dynamic and consumer-centric approach. As a result of this strategy, we added 816,000 postpaid subscribers this quarter, bringing our yearly net additions to 2 million.

Speaker 1

Our postpaid share in total mobile subscribers reached 78%, underlining our continued focus on value-added subscribers. Mobile ARPU increased by 9.8% year-over-year, reflecting the impact of expansion of our postpaid base, price adjustments, and successful upselling initiatives. Our mobile churn rate was 2.2% this quarter, primarily due to the highest volume in the mobile number portability market, resulting from intensified competition. Next page, please. As the premium provider in the mobile market, we remain committed to leading the industry. Our approach extends beyond price competition. We differentiate ourselves through superior network quality, high-speed connectivity, and a strong focus on customer experience. Looking ahead, we are firmly committed to 5G to maintain our leadership position. We are closely monitoring the upcoming spectrum tender while continuing to invest in our best-in-class infrastructure. Our vision extends beyond individual connectivity.

Speaker 1

We enable digital transformation across devices, cities, and industries, placing us at the heart of Turkey's digital future. Customer focus remains a key pillar of our mobile strategy. We implemented dynamic pricing practices that support both our premium positioning and the rationalization of the overall market. While doing this, we maintain our customer focus, which led to our all-time highest net port during this quarter. Leveraging AI-powered tariff management and segment-specific strategies, we are better positioned to meet evolving customer expectations. We actively address customer pain points and continually enhance our packages to drive higher retention. Our smart control service now covers nearly half of our postpaid base. Recently, we launched Tumbara, a digital loyalty program that allows customers to redeem their unused packages. The program has already engaged 4 million customers, further strengthening retention and customer engagement.

Speaker 1

Our strong customer orientation is clearly reflected in our net promoter score, where we led our closest competitor by 17%. Overall, we once again delivered real ARPU growth in the second quarter. Next page, please. Now, let us examine the fixed broadband segment. Our fixed subscriber base remains broadly stable at 3.3 million, impacted by competitive offers from smaller ISPs and higher volume of expiring 12-month contracts. We remain focused on achieving consistent ARPU expansion. In the second quarter, we recorded a 17.5% year-on-year increase in the residential fiber ARPU, supported by rising penetration of high-speed plans, an increase in 12-month contract share, and effective pricing actions. Notably, the share of high-speed packages increased by 16% year-on-year. As we continue to strengthen our fiber infrastructure, we expanded our footprint with 67,000 new home passes, bringing the total to 6.1 million pure fiber connections.

Speaker 1

Lastly, an impressive take-up rate of 42.7% highlights our continued focus on fiber subscriber growth. Next page, please. Next, I would like to briefly discuss on strategic areas, starting with Digital Business Services. Digital Business Services delivered solid growth of 39%, with revenues exceeding ₺4.9 billion. This performance was driven by the continued strength in recurring service revenues, further supported by a recovery in hardware sales within corporate projects. Our ambition is to build a seamlessly connected digital ecosystem that enhances connectivity. Data Center and Cloud Services play a critical role in this strategy. Revenues in our high-potential Data Center and Cloud Services surged by 53% this quarter. This exceptional performance reflects the successful monetization of last year's capacity investments, an expanding customer base, and sustained market demand. As the market leader, we continue to respond to growing demand through our investments.

Speaker 1

With two additional modules to be commissioned, we plan to expand our capacity by 8.4 megawatts, reaching a total of 15 megawatts by year-end. Next page, please. Another strategic area is TechFin. In Mobile Payments, our Paycell business continues to scale with healthy growth in both revenue and transaction volume. Driven by the strong performance of the postpaid and Paylater verticals, Paycell recorded an impressive 36% year-on-year revenue growth. In particular, we continue to see rising demand for post-transaction and transactions in digital stores such as Google Play and the Apple Store. The Consumer Financing company Financell generated ₺1.3 billion in revenues, supported by a loan portfolio expansion through dedicated campaigns targeting small businesses. The net interest margin improved to 4.9%, driven by more favorable funding costs. Lastly, I would like to reemphasize that we have delivered strong results across the board.

Speaker 1

We expect a moderation in performance in the second half of the year, in line with our initial projections. We forecast year-on-year inflation to be 30.5%. Considering these factors, we reiterate our full-year guidance. Meanwhile, we continue to closely monitor macroeconomic dynamics and market conditions. Thank you, and now I will hand over to our CFO, Mr. Kamil Kalyon, for our financial highlights.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much, Ali Taha Koç Bey. This was certainly an exceptional quarter for us. Let's take a closer look at the financial results. We achieved a strong top-line performance, recording 12.5% year-on-year growth, supported by the strength of our core business and TechFin services. Turkcell Türkiye served as the primary growth engine, contributing ₺5 billion to the top line. This was driven by real ARPU growth, an expanding postpaid subscriber base, and the continued strong momentum of Digital Business Services. Our TechFin segment also maintained its growth momentum, generating ₺547 million, supported by robust performance across all Paycell verticals. On the profitability front, we improved our EBITDA margin by around 1 percentage point, reaching 43.5%. A decline in employee expenses as a percentage of revenue was partially offset by higher cost of goods sold, largely due to increased hardware sales in corporate projects.

Speaker 3

Other cost items, including interconnection costs, energy expenses, and funding costs, contributed positively to the margin, enabling us to maintain a more favorable cost structure during the quarter. That said, we expect a higher cost base in the second half of the year, which is already factored into our full-year guidance. Next slide, please. Moving on to profit from continuing operations, which underscores our effective and consistent management execution. Profit from continuing operations rose by 36.8% year-on-year, reaching ₺4.4 billion. The primary driver of this growth was strong EBITDA generation, totaling ₺3 billion in the quarter. Despite a highly competitive market, Turkcell has maintained its market leadership, as it has consistently done over the past 30 years. Our premium positioning, innovative offerings, and disciplined expense management once again delivered clear and measurable results.

Speaker 3

Additionally, prudent balance sheet management and a decrease in FX losses compared to the same period last year contributed to net financial income of ₺670 million. On the tech side, strong profitability and our tax-paying position resulted in higher corporate tax expenses during the quarter. Next slide, please. Turning to CapEx management, CapEx intensity for the quarter stood at 16.9%. We remain focused on strategic infrastructure investments in preparation for upcoming technology transitions. Over 80% of this quarter's Capex was allocated to mobile and fixed networks, further strengthening quality and capacity of our core communication services. The base station fiberization rate increased to 43%, enhancing our readiness for a smooth and efficient 5G transition in the upcoming period. Additionally, we expanded our high-quality fixed infrastructure by adding new home passes, bringing our service to more customers.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, a higher share of Capex was allocated to Data Center investments in the first quarter. This quarter, we entered the hardware integration phase for an additional 8.4 megawatts of capacity. In renewable energy, our total installed capacity reached 109 megawatts, with around 80 megawatts expected to become operational after securing the necessary permits. Capex allocation for these assets will be recognized in the second half. Given the seasonal nature of investments, we remain on track to meet our year-end Capex targets. Next slide, please. Turning to our strong balance sheet, our cash position reached ₺117 billion in the second quarter. In June, we paid the first installment of our dividend. Our gross debt stood at ₺173 billion, resulting in a net debt position of ₺25 billion at the end of the quarter. As a result, our net leverage ratio rose slightly to 0.3 times.

Speaker 3

We remain focused on keeping it below our long-term target of one times. By year-end, we are scheduled to repay approximately $1 billion in debt, of which $854 million is foreign currency denominated. Following the successful Life Cell sale and Eurobond issuance, our liquidity position has strengthened to around $3.5 billion, more than sufficient to cover our debt obligations for the next four and a half years. Next slide, please. Finally, let's look at how we manage foreign currency risk. The majority of our cash remains in foreign currencies, with 87% of our cash holdings in hard currency, providing a natural hedge for 83% of our hard currency debt. At the end of Q2, our FX debt stood at $3.9 billion, while FX denominated financial assets totaled $3.2 billion. We also held a derivative portfolio equivalent to $574 million.

Speaker 3

In the medium term, we will maintain our current foreign exchange risk management strategy. Due to high costs, we avoid using cross-currency. Stood at minus $102 million, keeping it our neutral range of plus or minus $200 million. Our disciplined risk management approach has reduced the impact of currency fluctuations on our balance sheet and strengthened our overall financial position. That concludes our presentation. We would be happy to take any questions you have. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star followed by one on their telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Please use your handset when asking your question for better quality. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. One moment for the first question, please. The first question comes from the line of Shayne Ghmadi with HSBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes, hi. Thanks a lot for taking my question. I have two questions. The first question is on the fixed transition and the 5G update. If you could share what you have in terms of the latest updates on these and any update on the timing as well. The second is on your Capex target. Just wondering, you know, you said that you are happy for the full-year guidance on Capex as well, given you know the run rate has been much lower in the first half. In which area do you see the acceleration happening for Capex in the second half especially? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much. Let's start with the fixed concession. The Minister of Transport and Infrastructure recently indicated an indication to renew Türk Telekom's concession for 25 years. We believe that a policy framework designed to support infrastructure investments should be inclusive and applied under equal terms. In this context, we see value in broadening such opportunities to also support mobile operators' 5G deployments. As Turkcell, we continue to invest heavily in both mobile and fixed infrastructure and remain committed to contributing to Turkey's digital transformation. Ensuring competitive equality in policy decisions will help foster a healthy and dynamic telecom sector for the benefit of all stakeholders. For the 5G front, we are still waiting for the official timeline and details of the 5G tender. However, the Minister of Transport and Infrastructure recently stated that the goal is to make 5G services available by 2026, next year.

Speaker 1

He also mentioned that the different frequency will be allocated as part of the tender process. We expect, actually, the regulatory authorities to adopt a balanced approach that promotes technological advancement while ensuring the industry's long-term investment sustainability. We are always talking with the regulatory body. A well-structured tender process is critical to enabling operators to invest efficiently and effectively and support Turkey's digital transformation. For the full year, the second question, we plan to increase our investments in telecom infrastructure to enhance our 4.5G capabilities and also reinforce our readiness for 5G because we are expecting 5G is going to be live in 2026. While continuing our fiberization efforts, we are going to keep on building more home passes. Accordingly, approximately 65% of our Capex budget will be allocated to fixed and mobile businesses. Additionally, 13% of the 2025 Capex is allocated to data center investments.

Speaker 1

We have also renewable energy investments plans to meet our own electricity demand. To this end, 7% of the 2025 Capex is allocated to the renewable energy project.

Speaker 1

Okay, thank you.

Speaker 5

The next question is from the line of Cemal Demirtas with Ata Invest. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thank you for the presentation and congratulations for the result. My first question is about the guidance. How do you evaluate the second quarter when we think that the growth is already high in the second quarter as well as in the first quarter? You still maintain the same guidance. What is the reason behind that? Could you further elaborate that? For reaching 7% to 9% real growth, you need to go down maybe like 5% to 6% in the second half. Could you further elaborate that with some further clarification? It will be helpful. The second one is, already, you know, Turkcell has been a profitable company and has been there when it's growing. Recently, the Togg project, which is a very important project for the country.

Speaker 5

When I look at the details in the second quarter regarding your share of 23% in Togg, you recorded a ₺1.2 billion loss. When you look at the first half of the year, Togg recorded around $226 million loss. When we look at your profits, you have ₺4.2 billion net income. If Togg was not in it, you could have ₺1.2 billion higher net income. I know it's a long-term project and it's related to the developments and it's like Turkish car, very important. If I come to my question, how do you see the future of this side? Do you expect this profit loss-making to change in the following quarters? When we make a calculation for the following years, should we assume similar loss from the Togg side? I just want to understand more details because currently it is having a higher impact on your financials.

Speaker 5

That's why maybe I'm asking a sensitive question. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much, Kamil, for the questions. Actually, I'm just going to answer the first question about the guidance. Our strong first half performance gives us some headroom for the year-end guidance. However, given our 12-month contract structure, the positive impact of the price adjustments we implemented in July last year will begin to taper off in the third quarter. Additionally, the magnitude of price adjustments is reduced compared to last year in line with the inflation. We should also take into account that the high base effect means that in Q3 and Q4 last year, we have a strong growth. From the second half of last year, therefore, as we approach year-end, we expect our results to converge closer to our current guidance range.

Speaker 1

At this point, we prefer to remain prudent and believe it is more appropriate to wait for the third quarter results before making any adjustment to our outlook. Moreover, how inflation will conclude and what path it will follow will also be another variable. Our current guidance is based on a year-end inflation assumption of 13.5%, which still looks reasonable. By then, we will also have a clearer view, and at the end of the third quarter, we will be having a clearer view of the inflation dynamics and market condition. That's the reason that we prefer to remain prudent and to keep our guidance.

Speaker 1

For the second question, Kemal, thank you very much for the question. As you might observe, the automotive industry, not only for Togg, but in Turkish automotive industry, is cyclical and has been under pressure globally due to macroeconomic factors. Due to both macroeconomic factors and Turkish economics, regarding these problems impacting the consumer demand, Togg, being a young company, will naturally need some time before reaching sustainable profitability. As we are always underlining for Turkcell, this is not an only automobile investment. We see it as a broader step into the e-mobility ecosystem. As you know, we have already integrated our Paycell payment solutions, our solutions, CD, TV Plus into the Togg ecosystem. As you might be aware, in the near past, the Minister of Finance has made some taxation regulations change, which will affect positively the automotive industry, especially Togg in the near future.

Speaker 1

Togg management also has taken some measures to manage their costs effectively. I think we will see the results of the positive effects in the half two. For this year, we are not expecting to generate profits in the short-term side, but in the mid-term or long-term side, I think we are very confident that Togg investment will create a long-term value for Turkcell and for Turkey.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Kamil Bey. As a follow-up related to your financing costs, financial costs, and financial income, I see some increase from first quarter to second quarter. Could you also further elaborate that we don't see a major increase in the currencies or others? I would like to understand the reason behind some increase on that front. How should we think for the rest of the year in terms of, you know, financing costs, plus financing income? Could you just give us some, you know, at least indication about that?

Speaker 1

Yeah, normally, you know, we have a very strong balance sheet management in Turkcell's side, and we are managing our balance sheet and liquidity position very effectively. When you look at our positions, for example, our net FX position is around minus $102 million, which you compare with the competitors and our market return. It's very, how can I say, low rate from our perspective. As you mentioned, starting from the year-end, the euro, especially euro terms, are very regulated very highly. When we are looking, we are using short-term hedge instruments to hedge our FX position, and we are trying to stood our FX position, net FX position in the normal position in order not to be affected from the FX devaluations and the higher interest rates. As you know, the higher the interest rates are a little bit high with this quarter, first quarter, and the second quarter.

Speaker 1

I believe that due to our effective management, balance sheet management situation, we, for example, recorded ₺670 million net income, positive income to the FX management side. Therefore, we believe that we are managing this side very well, properly.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 5

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone. The next question comes from the line of Bystrova Evgeniya with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes, hello. Thank you very much for the presentation and congrats on the results. I have just one question. There were news about Turkcell entering the mobile market and basically becoming the fourth mobile operator. I would like to hear maybe your thoughts on that. How do you think this will affect Turkcell's competitive position, margins, subscriber base? Basically, if you could please provide any color on that, it would be very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much for the question. Also, we have also seen this news in the press. However, we have not seen any statement from the regulatory body or any government entities. While there is currently no clear information regarding this matter, we closely follow all initiatives that may affect the competitive landscapes in the Turkish telecommunication market, not just in the mobile side, as well as in the fixed side. Turkcell has begun its operation in 1994 and has a proven ability to compete effectively in any condition, leveraging on its strong network infrastructure, customer-oriented service approach, and continuous focus on innovation and new technology. Turkcell currently doesn't possess actually a mobile network infrastructure. They're always a satellite company and a fixed cable company. It is clear that building and operating a large-scale mobile network requires significant capital and advanced technological capabilities.

Speaker 1

I think this is not a process that can be accomplished easily in the short term. As the market leader in mobile services, we believe that our solid financial structure, as well as our loyal customer base, position us well to remain competitive and lead the mobile market in the near future and the far ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Speaker 5

As a final reminder, to register for a question, please press star and one on your telephone. Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference over to Turkcell management for any closing comments. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much for listening, and see you next time in the third quarter results. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference is now concluded and you may disconnect your telephone. Thank you for calling and have a pleasant evening.

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