NASDAQ:EVCM EverCommerce Q2 2025 Earnings Report $8.32 +0.26 (+3.23%) Closing price 09/23/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$8.28 -0.04 (-0.48%) As of 09/23/2026 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast EverCommerce EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.03Consensus EPS -$0.01Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPS-$0.02EverCommerce Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$148.02 millionExpected Revenue$145.80 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$2.21 millionYoY Revenue Growth+5.30%EverCommerce Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/6/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, August 6, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsEverCommerce's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, November 5, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by EverCommerce Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 6, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Q2 results exceeded guidance with revenue of $148 M (up 5.3% YoY; 7.4% pro forma) and adjusted EBITDA of $45 M at a 30.4% margin, marking a 230 bp margin expansion. Positive Sentiment: Payments revenue grew 6.8% YoY on a pro forma basis, representing 21% of total revenue at ~95% gross margin, and total payment volume rose 7% YoY to ~$12.9 B. Positive Sentiment: Multi-product adoption accelerated, with 261 K customers enabled for >1 solution (32% YoY growth) and 112 K actively using >1 solution (29% YoY growth), fueling cross-sell and upsell. Positive Sentiment: Debt repricing and extension delivered ~$1.3 M in annual interest savings, left $155 M of undrawn revolver capacity, and supported a $20.6 M share repurchase with $51.1 M remaining authorization. Neutral Sentiment: For FY 2025, revenue guidance was maintained at $581 M–$600 M while adjusted EBITDA guidance was raised to $171 M–$177 M, reflecting prudent top-line assumptions alongside higher profitability targets. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEverCommerce Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 10 speakers on the call. Speaker 900:00:00Thank you for standing by and welcome to EverCommerce's second quarter 2025 earnings call. My name is Shannon, and I will be your operator for today. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, Wednesday, August 6, 2025. I would like to turn the conference over to Brad Korch, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations for EverCommerce. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:00:36Good afternoon and thank you for joining. Today's call will be led by Eric Remer, EverCommerce's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Ryan Siurek, EverCommerce's Chief Financial Officer. Joining them for the Q&A portion of the call is EverCommerce's President, Matt Feierstein, EverPro Chief Executive Officer, Josh McCarter, and EverHealth Chief Executive Officer, Evan Berlin. This call is being webcast with a slide presentation that reviews the key financial and operating results of the three months ended June 30, 2025. For a link to the live or replay webcast, please visit the Investor Relations section of the EverCommerce website, www.evercommerce.com. The slide presentation and earnings release are also directly available on the site. Please turn to page two of our earnings call presentation while I review our safe harbor statement. Speaker 300:01:22Statements made on this call and contained in the earnings material available on our website that are not historical in nature may constitute forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on the current expectations and beliefs of management. Actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements except as required by law. We also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures in our comments today. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP historical measures is provided in both our earnings press release and our earnings call presentation. As a reminder, following our announcement in March that we are seeking strategic alternatives to the marketing technology solutions business, we have classified MarTech as discontinued operations. Speaker 300:02:09Our commentary today will focus on the continuing operations of our business, focused on our EverHealth, EverPro, and EverWell verticals. All financial and operating metric results are presented relating to continuing operations only unless otherwise specified. I will now turn it over to our CEO, Eric Remer. Please continue. Speaker 100:02:28Thank you, Brad. I'll begin our prepared remarks focused on our strong results and trends. Before turning the call over to Ryan to discuss our financial performance in more detail, we had another strong quarter with financial results that exceeded guidance and solid progress in our key leading indicators. Our second quarter revenue exceeded the top end of our guidance range. Revenue increased 5.3% year over year, but increased 7.4% year over year on a pro forma basis, which adjusts prior year for the sale of the fitness solutions. Adjusted EBITDA of $45 million also viewed at the top end of our guidance range, representing a 30.4% margin. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded more than 230 basis points year over year. Payments revenue, excluding the fitness solutions, grew 6.8% year over year. Speaker 100:03:14Finally, I'd like to highlight that at the end of July, we repriced and extended our credit facility, increasing financial flexibility and resulting in approximately $1.3 million in annual interest savings. EverCommerce provides SaaS solutions with the service that's in the economy. We offer tremendous value to our customers by providing the system of actions necessary to run their businesses with tailored unique workflows. We provide end-to-end solutions to more than 725,000 customers across our three major verticals: EverPro for home and field services, EverHealth for physician practices, and EverWell for wellness, with the two former verticals representing 95% of consolidated revenue. Our large base of customers represents an immense embedded opportunity to provide value-added features and services like payments and customer rebates to our purchasing programs. Speaker 100:04:06At a pro forma basis for the last 12 months, we generated $574.1 million in revenue, representing 7.9% year-over-year growth, with subscription and transaction revenue growing 8.1% year over year. We generated a 30.7% adjusted EBITDA margin on an LTN basis. Finally, our annualized total payment volume or TPV expanded to approximately $12.9 billion. Accelerating payments adoption and utilization continues to be one of our highest priorities, and in 2025, we are making specific investments in our product capabilities and go-to-market motions to prioritize payments attachments at the point of initial sale. These include product and capability investments to expand addressable payments volume within our system of actions, as well as go-to-market and selling resources to catalyze incremental enablement and utilization. At the end of the second quarter, 261,000 customers were enabled for more than one solution, reflecting a 32% year-over-year growth. Speaker 100:05:05This is a 400 basis point acceleration in growth rate over the prior quarter's year-over-year growth rate. At the end of the second quarter, approximately 112,000 customers were actually utilizing more than one solution, reflecting 29% year-over-year growth. This is a 1,000 basis point acceleration in growth rate over the prior quarter's year-over-year growth rate. Enabling customers for more than one solution is the first step in the funnel that leads to increased revenue retention and ultimately profitability for these customers. As we've noted before, we began prioritizing attach at the point of initial SaaS sale, and in just a few quarters, we are seeing really good results. In the second quarter, we had record attach rates in our two flagship system of action softwares within our EverPro and EverHealth verticals. Once customers are enabled, the next action item is for us to facilitate usage. Speaker 100:05:57In the case of payment, this is getting our customers to actively process on a platform. We measure this step in the funnel as utilization. Customers that purchase and utilize more than one solution are naturally some of our most profitable and stickiest customers. As you have illustrated in past earnings call, the effect of more customers taking payments or other add-on features and services is higher net revenue retention. Looking back over the trailing 12 months, our annualized net revenue retention, or NRR, was 97%. Year over year, our payments revenue on a pro forma basis grew over 6.8% and accounted for approximately 21% of overall revenue. As a reminder, we report our payments revenue on a net basis, and therefore it typically contributes approximately 95% gross margin. As such, payments revenue growth is a meaningful contributor to our overall adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. Speaker 100:06:47As I mentioned in my introductory comments, second quarter estimated annual total payments volume or TPV was approximately $12.9 billion, representing nearly 7% year-over-year growth. Within this, we continue to see higher TPV growth in our top solutions, offset by lower growth in legacy payment products. This can be a positive mix shift over time, as our top solutions often have higher take rates. Now I'll pass it over to Ryan, who will review our financial results in more detail, as well as provide third quarter and updated full year 2025 guidance. Speaker 300:07:18Thanks, Eric. Total reported revenue in the second quarter was $148 million, up 5.3% from the prior year period. Subscription and transaction revenue, our primary recurring revenue base, was $142.8 million. For Q2 2025, year-over-year pro forma subscription and transaction revenue growth was 7.4%. The difference between actual and pro forma revenue growth rate is to present information on a comparable basis and is attributable to the removal of prior year revenue associated with the sale of our fitness solutions that closed in 2024. Within pro forma subscription and transaction revenue, pro forma payment revenue growth was 6.8%. The solid performance in subscription and transaction revenue was largely due to continued execution of our growth strategy to provide customers with our core system of action software solutions and driving expansion by promoting cross-sell and upsell opportunities leading with payments. Speaker 300:08:18Adjusted gross profit in the quarter was $114.6 million, representing an adjusted gross margin of 77.4% versus 77.5% in Q2 2024, relatively flat across the comparison period. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $45 million, which is 14% growth year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margins of 30.4% compares to 28.1% in Q2 2024. Q2 year-over-year margin expansion of over 230 basis points was partially aided by the timing of certain expenses and investments, with a portion of the favorability compared to guidance expected to be reallocated to the rest of 2025. On a year-over-year basis, margins improved due to cost optimization initiatives, mix shift to higher margin products, and overall scale economies. Speaker 300:09:12Now, turning to adjusted operating expenses, which are reconciled in the appendix to this presentation, overall adjusted operating expenses improved as a percentage of revenue both for the quarter from 49.5% to 47.1% on a year-over-year basis and on an LTM basis from 48.8% to 47.3%. While the timing of investments and expenses was a factor, the long-term trend of continued operating expense moderation is deliberate and attributable to both growth of the business and specific actions taken as part of our transformation and optimization program. We maintain our focus on improvement in customer satisfaction and acquisition while also remaining highly focused on cost discipline in functional support areas. Next, I'll turn to some key liquidity measures, which include cash flow from continuing and discontinued operations. We continue to generate significant free cash flow as we invest to grow our business. Speaker 300:10:12Cash flow from operations for the quarter was $27 million, improving from $23.9 million generated in Q2 2024. Leveraged free cash flow was $18.9 million in the quarter, and for the trailing 12-month period, we generated nearly $110.8 million in leveraged free cash flow. Due to the investments we are making in 2025, we see an impact in our leveraged free cash flow, primarily due to increases in our capitalized software spend year over year as we continue to enhance features, functionality, as well as our enterprise support model. Adjusted unleveraged free cash flow was $34.9 million in the quarter and $143.7 million for the last 12 months, representing 16.2% and 18.8% year-over-year growth, respectively. We ended the quarter with $151 million in cash and cash equivalents and $155 million of undrawn capacity on our revolver. As of June 30th, we had $529 million of debt outstanding. Speaker 300:11:14Our total net leverage, as calculated per our credit facility, was approximately two times and continues to demonstrate our deleveraging from strong operational performance and free cash generation. We have $425 million of notional swaps at a weighted average rate of 3.91% that effectively hedge the floating rate component of our interest cost through October 2027. In July, we've repriced and extended our outstanding term loan for an additional three years through July 2031 and further reduced our interest cost by 25 basis points to SOFR plus 2.25%. In addition, we extended our $155 million revolving credit facility, which steps down in capacity to $125 million in July 2026 and continues through July 2030. The repricing on the term loan results in interest cost savings of approximately $1.3 million on an annualized basis, and the extension of the term loan and revolving credit facility provides financial flexibility. Speaker 300:12:18In the second quarter, we repurchased approximately 2 million shares for $20.6 million at an average price of $10.01 per share. Based on the shares repurchased through June 30th, 2025, we have approximately $51.1 million remaining in our total repurchase authorization. I would now like to finish by discussing our outlook for the third quarter and full year of 2025. As a reminder, our guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA for 2025 is based on our continued operations, which excludes marketing technology solutions. For the third quarter of 2025, we expect total revenue of $146.5 to $149.5 million and adjusted EBITDA of $41 to $43 million. For full year 2025, we expect total revenue of $581 to $601 million, and we are increasing our guidance for adjusted EBITDA to a range of $171 to $177 million. Operator, we are now ready to take the first question. Speaker 900:13:26Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Our first question comes from the line of Bhavin S. Shah with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:13:42Great. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter. Eric, maybe just for you to start off, can you just maybe give us a little state of the union on where you are in terms of your transformation initiatives and how you guys think you're progressing against that? Speaker 100:13:56Yeah, you know, when we talk about the transformation optimization, many of those are ongoing scenarios that we're going to continue to look for opportunities, specifically in optimization, continue to gain more margin as we get more efficient across the organization. From a transformation perspective, it was really focused on creating more energy and more focus within the BUs in the specific verticals EverHealth and EverPro. Both our CEOs that we've talked about before, Evan Berlin and Josh McCarter, are both doing a phenomenal job building out organizations, building out full management teams, getting the teams closer to the end customer, which we're starting to see really positive results in efficiency and sales efficiency and marketing efficiency, and other things that we really had expected to happen. We're starting to see some of those green shoots happen already. Speaker 100:14:49That's great. Just a quick follow-up for Ryan. Ryan, I think the second quarter in a row where you guys have exceeded the top end of your revenue guidance, why not raise the rest of the year? Is there anything that you're seeing from a macro perspective or anything else we should keep in mind for the backend? Speaker 400:15:03Yeah, no, I appreciate the question. Thanks, Bhavin. From a macro perspective, things continue to trend well. We've talked about how we are relatively resilient overall in terms of the macro economy. We will continue to track that and look at it on a regular basis. We felt comfortable raising the adjusted EBITDA guidance really because of the confidence we have in the back half of the year, but also looking at some moderation with regard to the overperformance that we had in the first half of the year for investments and other things that we're doing, really to continue to generate growth and acceleration in active programs like payments or cross-sell and upsell opportunities. On the revenue side, it's really being prudent with regard to what we see the back half of the year compared to the first half of the year. Speaker 400:15:48At this point, we feel comfortable with both the remaining revenue guidance for the back half of the year as well as the raise on the adjusted EBITDA guidance. Speaker 400:15:58That's helpful. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 900:16:01Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kirk Matern with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:16:08Hi, this is Bill Armstrong Kirk, and thanks for taking my question. What are some of the embedded AI functionalities that you believe will enhance the overall customer experience of your software going forward? Operator00:16:22Yeah, I'll start in terms of things that we've actually done from an AI perspective, then I'll pass it over to Evan and potentially Josh, who will talk about some of the things that we're considering. Over the last 18 months, and we've talked about this, we've launched AI-powered features across several of our product lines, including, you know, prospect marketing solutions and our customer engagement, our customer experience solution. We've launched customer survey tools within our customer experience solutions, and those have helped us improve prospect targeting for the end customer and customer engagement and actionable insights that our customers now have because of the embedded AI that we've put in those products. AI advancement within our products is now a core part of our future product roadmaps, really across all of our verticals. Operator00:17:08I'll pass it over to Evan to start in terms of, you know, some thoughts at the EverHealth level. Speaker 500:17:15Yeah, thanks, Matt. I think the features we've got embedded in the roadmap for the rest of the year are features that really help our customers be more efficient. Thinking about things in the clinical space like ambient scribe, appointment no-show predictors that help them just run a more efficient business. We have a full roadmap already built for 2026. Look for more features to be delivered across all of our core products within EverHealth. Speaker 500:17:43Great. Can you provide us, you know, do you have any early thoughts on the passage of the One Day Beautiful Bill in terms of tax implications? Speaker 400:17:54Yeah, I would say it's early for us in terms of the analysis of that. It's ongoing in terms of the implication, but we do think there'll be some benefits from limitations that previously existed from interest deductibility as an example. On an ongoing basis, we'll have more to share, I think, in the coming quarter. Speaker 400:18:14Appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 900:18:17Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew George Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:18:24Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on another good quarter. I guess, you know, circling back on the revenue guide, you've beat expectations on the top line for now two straight quarters, and you've maintained the full year guide. I can appreciate there's probably some conservatism from macros in there, but just making sure there's nothing else, like were deals pulled into the first half or anything that you sort of, like, flagged for the second half? It feels like you're coming off of a strong first half of the year. Speaker 400:18:51The first half of the year was strong, and we feel good about that. We didn't pull in anything unusual from a revenue perspective in Q1 or Q2. We're not planning to pull anything in necessarily from a Q3 or Q4 perspective either. We do a bottoms-up build, and we look at all the different factors within each one of the solutions. As you know, we have some top solutions that are core to our systems of action as well as payments. We also have a number of other important solutions as well. It's a relatively complex build, but we feel good about what we're setting for Q3 and Q4. Yes, there is some conservatism. We like to call it prudence, but we want to make sure that we're not being overly aggressive in terms of what we're publishing. Speaker 400:19:40I think from our standpoint right now, we feel like what we're guiding towards is appropriate for both Q3 and Q4. Speaker 400:19:49Got it. Okay. I wanted to follow up on AI as well. Last quarter, you talked not only about, you know, from a product perspective, but using AI internally to just improve efficiency. I wonder if you can give a little bit of update there. Are you seeing any improvements, whether it's in R&D with code suggestion tools or sales and marketing, customer service? Any sort of anecdotal evidence that it could be driving, you know, either more efficiencies there or perhaps even, you know, better sales outcomes? Operator00:20:17Yeah, no, for sure. I'm going to focus on customer support. I think we have talked about this in the past, but that continues to be an area where, again, still early innings with AI. Across all of our functions, we are actively leaning in an AI-forward way to find efficiencies. In customer service, specifically our customer support operation within mobile solutions at EverPro, we have deployed AI agents within our chat channel that are now resolving between 25% to 50% of all support tickets that come in, depending on which solution within that mobile mix. We've got customer SAT scores that are above 85% and generating some nice significant cost avoidance from that standpoint. That is literally just across our chat channel. We're going to add email and voice channel there, and we expect that impact to grow meaningfully. We are excited. Operator00:21:08It is still the early innings from a functional standpoint of that. Yes, from a product and engineering standpoint, from a digital marketing standpoint, from a people operations standpoint, and from a financial systems and security operations standpoint, those are areas where we're actively testing and learning into the productivity gains and the efficiency gains from utilizing this technology company-wide. Operator00:21:32Great. Thanks for the call. Speaker 900:21:36Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question at this time, please press star one one on your touch-tone telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Alexander Sklar with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:21:47Hi, thanks for taking the question. This is John on for Alex. I wanted to dig in a little bit with the customers utilizing more than one solution. We've seen a really nice step up in the amount of customers using more than one solution in one queue and now again in two queue. Do you think this upper single digit, low double digit thousand growth is the right cadence to think about moving forward? I have a quick follow-up. Operator00:22:09Yeah, I'd say we're obviously really pleased with the progress we've made. We're obviously not going to guide to growth percentages there. I think you heard Eric talk about in his comments the areas where we've obviously continued to make investments in product and technology and go to market to better enable that continued multi-product take and ultimately utilization. Payments is more than 85% of that multi-product enablement and utilization. You also heard Eric talk through across our core growth pillars and payments from attachment to activation to wallet share expansion. Again, significant execution and investment in those areas just to continue to expand the value that we can provide to our customers in areas like attachment, launching something like Canadian processing capabilities at some of our solutions where we didn't have them, allow us to access an unaddressable part of the base that we had before. Operator00:23:09In areas like wallet share expansion, really continuing to refine payments workflows within our systems of action and increasing ways to pay, mobile check capture, ACH payment, Google and Apple Pay support. These things add flexibility and also increase and really drive that merchant processing volume from where it was to where we believe it can be. Again, really pleased with the progress we've made. There is significant runway for us to continue to drive more utilization of second, third, fourth products into the base. As we continue to integrate more of those products into our systems of action, we expect to do just that. Speaker 100:23:49To add to what Matt said, as we've talked about a bunch, these are the leading indicators. These are the top of the funnel. Our job is to kind of continue to execute down funnel so we can increase revenue and increase retention. As more customers take more products, obviously that grows revenue. The more products an individual customer takes, it significantly increases retention as well. Speaker 100:24:11Okay, thanks. Really good call there. Can you maybe help frame the spread between the total payment volume growth we saw this quarter and that customers using more than one solution? Is there a lag there that we should think about as customers are enabled to use more than one solution and use payments? Is there maybe some macro factors that are causing that bit of the spread? Operator00:24:34Yeah, we wouldn't call it macro. I think, again, as Eric explained, it is a funnel. You start at the top of the funnel with attach. Obviously, making nice significant strides there. Utilization comes next. Wallet share expansion comes there. It comes after that. There is a lag only in that you do need to take every single customer down that funnel in terms of enablement into utilization and to expansion. Secondarily, obviously, we've talked about this in the past. We have a pretty broad portfolio of solutions where we've integrated payments. Some of them are more mature legacy portfolios that are growing at a bit slower of a rate. Obviously, we've again talked about our top five payment opportunities where we have the most significant executional approach and investments. Those are growing at a much faster rate. Operator00:25:24The TPV there is growing between 12% to 13% from a year-over-year perspective. Many of those are less than 10% penetrated. The opportunity is incredibly large. Yes, there's a lag from a funnel perspective. We look to continue to grow through just some of the more mature legacy parts of the portfolio. Operator00:25:46Thank you very much. Speaker 900:25:48Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Jacob Kimson with Citizens JMP Securities LLC. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:25:56Great, thank you. Eric, you started this business as a payments company. Payments was 21% of revenue in the first half of this year, up from 17% full year 2024. Obviously, it's a big piece of the thesis going forward. Given the Circle IPO in June and all the subsequent investor attention that's gone into understanding the potential of stablecoins to affect payments revenue streams, how do you think about the potential for stablecoins to affect a greater method of payment in your service-based SMB customer base over the medium and long term, if at all? Speaker 100:26:27I appreciate the question. In terms of focusing on stablecoins and how it's going to affect our current payment methods, that is not currently on the roadmap, quite honestly. We provide many ways for our customers to get paid. To date, there's been, I would say, anecdotally not few requests. There's been zero requests for things of that nature. We will continue to be very focused on what our customers need, build products, build roadmaps based upon making sure that they get what they need to accept payments the way they need to, in addition to being able to provide their customers what they want. We will be responsive to the marketplace if and when that happens. To date, it's definitely not in the short-term roadmap. I wouldn't even say midterm. Clearly, that can shift if the market sentiment shifts. Right now, that's not a core focus. Speaker 100:27:24Got it. That's really helpful. Ryan, can you talk about the improved visibility you have into the business as a result of the MarTech discontinuation and eventual divestiture when giving us guidance now? Maybe also what needs to go right to potentially accelerate back to a double-digit grower in the out years? Thanks. Speaker 400:27:42Yeah, no, I appreciate the question, Aaron. Really, from a visibility perspective, I would say for the most part, what we've taken out from a continuing operations perspective is seasonality or variabilities to seasonality. It's much more linear. I think overall, there is very little seasonality when you take out MarTech from the overall business. I would say that it just continues to refocus essentially where everybody is spending their time and effort, which is within EverPro and EverHealth and EverWell at this point in time. We continue with the process on the MarTech side, and we will continue with the optimization efforts that we have. I think you can see that coming through from our operating expenses as a percentage of revenue overall. Speaker 400:28:25If you look at the LTM on a basis of year-over-year analysis, we're going to continue to, as we talked about it earlier, we have the transformation efforts, we have the optimization efforts. On the optimization piece, we intend to actually take costs out on an optimized basis, whether it's through AI or otherwise, in order to make the continued investments for, you know, revenue expansion that we want to make going forward. Speaker 900:28:53Thank you. I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to hand the call back over to Eric Remer for closing remarks. Speaker 100:29:01Thank you guys for joining us today. Not only did we beat our headline expectations, we're also showing real positive momentum in our leading indicators. This is exactly what we set out to do, and I look forward to sharing our continued success in the coming quarters. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Speaker 900:00:00Thank you for standing by and welcome to EverCommerce's second quarter 2025 earnings call. My name is Shannon, and I will be your operator for today. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, Wednesday, August 6, 2025. I would like to turn the conference over to Brad Korch, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations for EverCommerce. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:00:36Good afternoon and thank you for joining. Today's call will be led by Eric Remer, EverCommerce's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Ryan Siurek, EverCommerce's Chief Financial Officer. Joining them for the Q&A portion of the call is EverCommerce's President, Matt Feierstein, EverPro Chief Executive Officer, Josh McCarter, and EverHealth Chief Executive Officer, Evan Berlin. This call is being webcast with a slide presentation that reviews the key financial and operating results of the three months ended June 30, 2025. For a link to the live or replay webcast, please visit the Investor Relations section of the EverCommerce website, www.evercommerce.com. The slide presentation and earnings release are also directly available on the site. Please turn to page two of our earnings call presentation while I review our safe harbor statement. Speaker 300:01:22Statements made on this call and contained in the earnings material available on our website that are not historical in nature may constitute forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on the current expectations and beliefs of management. Actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements except as required by law. We also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures in our comments today. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP historical measures is provided in both our earnings press release and our earnings call presentation. As a reminder, following our announcement in March that we are seeking strategic alternatives to the marketing technology solutions business, we have classified MarTech as discontinued operations. Speaker 300:02:09Our commentary today will focus on the continuing operations of our business, focused on our EverHealth, EverPro, and EverWell verticals. All financial and operating metric results are presented relating to continuing operations only unless otherwise specified. I will now turn it over to our CEO, Eric Remer. Please continue. Speaker 100:02:28Thank you, Brad. I'll begin our prepared remarks focused on our strong results and trends. Before turning the call over to Ryan to discuss our financial performance in more detail, we had another strong quarter with financial results that exceeded guidance and solid progress in our key leading indicators. Our second quarter revenue exceeded the top end of our guidance range. Revenue increased 5.3% year over year, but increased 7.4% year over year on a pro forma basis, which adjusts prior year for the sale of the fitness solutions. Adjusted EBITDA of $45 million also viewed at the top end of our guidance range, representing a 30.4% margin. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded more than 230 basis points year over year. Payments revenue, excluding the fitness solutions, grew 6.8% year over year. Speaker 100:03:14Finally, I'd like to highlight that at the end of July, we repriced and extended our credit facility, increasing financial flexibility and resulting in approximately $1.3 million in annual interest savings. EverCommerce provides SaaS solutions with the service that's in the economy. We offer tremendous value to our customers by providing the system of actions necessary to run their businesses with tailored unique workflows. We provide end-to-end solutions to more than 725,000 customers across our three major verticals: EverPro for home and field services, EverHealth for physician practices, and EverWell for wellness, with the two former verticals representing 95% of consolidated revenue. Our large base of customers represents an immense embedded opportunity to provide value-added features and services like payments and customer rebates to our purchasing programs. Speaker 100:04:06At a pro forma basis for the last 12 months, we generated $574.1 million in revenue, representing 7.9% year-over-year growth, with subscription and transaction revenue growing 8.1% year over year. We generated a 30.7% adjusted EBITDA margin on an LTN basis. Finally, our annualized total payment volume or TPV expanded to approximately $12.9 billion. Accelerating payments adoption and utilization continues to be one of our highest priorities, and in 2025, we are making specific investments in our product capabilities and go-to-market motions to prioritize payments attachments at the point of initial sale. These include product and capability investments to expand addressable payments volume within our system of actions, as well as go-to-market and selling resources to catalyze incremental enablement and utilization. At the end of the second quarter, 261,000 customers were enabled for more than one solution, reflecting a 32% year-over-year growth. Speaker 100:05:05This is a 400 basis point acceleration in growth rate over the prior quarter's year-over-year growth rate. At the end of the second quarter, approximately 112,000 customers were actually utilizing more than one solution, reflecting 29% year-over-year growth. This is a 1,000 basis point acceleration in growth rate over the prior quarter's year-over-year growth rate. Enabling customers for more than one solution is the first step in the funnel that leads to increased revenue retention and ultimately profitability for these customers. As we've noted before, we began prioritizing attach at the point of initial SaaS sale, and in just a few quarters, we are seeing really good results. In the second quarter, we had record attach rates in our two flagship system of action softwares within our EverPro and EverHealth verticals. Once customers are enabled, the next action item is for us to facilitate usage. Speaker 100:05:57In the case of payment, this is getting our customers to actively process on a platform. We measure this step in the funnel as utilization. Customers that purchase and utilize more than one solution are naturally some of our most profitable and stickiest customers. As you have illustrated in past earnings call, the effect of more customers taking payments or other add-on features and services is higher net revenue retention. Looking back over the trailing 12 months, our annualized net revenue retention, or NRR, was 97%. Year over year, our payments revenue on a pro forma basis grew over 6.8% and accounted for approximately 21% of overall revenue. As a reminder, we report our payments revenue on a net basis, and therefore it typically contributes approximately 95% gross margin. As such, payments revenue growth is a meaningful contributor to our overall adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. Speaker 100:06:47As I mentioned in my introductory comments, second quarter estimated annual total payments volume or TPV was approximately $12.9 billion, representing nearly 7% year-over-year growth. Within this, we continue to see higher TPV growth in our top solutions, offset by lower growth in legacy payment products. This can be a positive mix shift over time, as our top solutions often have higher take rates. Now I'll pass it over to Ryan, who will review our financial results in more detail, as well as provide third quarter and updated full year 2025 guidance. Speaker 300:07:18Thanks, Eric. Total reported revenue in the second quarter was $148 million, up 5.3% from the prior year period. Subscription and transaction revenue, our primary recurring revenue base, was $142.8 million. For Q2 2025, year-over-year pro forma subscription and transaction revenue growth was 7.4%. The difference between actual and pro forma revenue growth rate is to present information on a comparable basis and is attributable to the removal of prior year revenue associated with the sale of our fitness solutions that closed in 2024. Within pro forma subscription and transaction revenue, pro forma payment revenue growth was 6.8%. The solid performance in subscription and transaction revenue was largely due to continued execution of our growth strategy to provide customers with our core system of action software solutions and driving expansion by promoting cross-sell and upsell opportunities leading with payments. Speaker 300:08:18Adjusted gross profit in the quarter was $114.6 million, representing an adjusted gross margin of 77.4% versus 77.5% in Q2 2024, relatively flat across the comparison period. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $45 million, which is 14% growth year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margins of 30.4% compares to 28.1% in Q2 2024. Q2 year-over-year margin expansion of over 230 basis points was partially aided by the timing of certain expenses and investments, with a portion of the favorability compared to guidance expected to be reallocated to the rest of 2025. On a year-over-year basis, margins improved due to cost optimization initiatives, mix shift to higher margin products, and overall scale economies. Speaker 300:09:12Now, turning to adjusted operating expenses, which are reconciled in the appendix to this presentation, overall adjusted operating expenses improved as a percentage of revenue both for the quarter from 49.5% to 47.1% on a year-over-year basis and on an LTM basis from 48.8% to 47.3%. While the timing of investments and expenses was a factor, the long-term trend of continued operating expense moderation is deliberate and attributable to both growth of the business and specific actions taken as part of our transformation and optimization program. We maintain our focus on improvement in customer satisfaction and acquisition while also remaining highly focused on cost discipline in functional support areas. Next, I'll turn to some key liquidity measures, which include cash flow from continuing and discontinued operations. We continue to generate significant free cash flow as we invest to grow our business. Speaker 300:10:12Cash flow from operations for the quarter was $27 million, improving from $23.9 million generated in Q2 2024. Leveraged free cash flow was $18.9 million in the quarter, and for the trailing 12-month period, we generated nearly $110.8 million in leveraged free cash flow. Due to the investments we are making in 2025, we see an impact in our leveraged free cash flow, primarily due to increases in our capitalized software spend year over year as we continue to enhance features, functionality, as well as our enterprise support model. Adjusted unleveraged free cash flow was $34.9 million in the quarter and $143.7 million for the last 12 months, representing 16.2% and 18.8% year-over-year growth, respectively. We ended the quarter with $151 million in cash and cash equivalents and $155 million of undrawn capacity on our revolver. As of June 30th, we had $529 million of debt outstanding. Speaker 300:11:14Our total net leverage, as calculated per our credit facility, was approximately two times and continues to demonstrate our deleveraging from strong operational performance and free cash generation. We have $425 million of notional swaps at a weighted average rate of 3.91% that effectively hedge the floating rate component of our interest cost through October 2027. In July, we've repriced and extended our outstanding term loan for an additional three years through July 2031 and further reduced our interest cost by 25 basis points to SOFR plus 2.25%. In addition, we extended our $155 million revolving credit facility, which steps down in capacity to $125 million in July 2026 and continues through July 2030. The repricing on the term loan results in interest cost savings of approximately $1.3 million on an annualized basis, and the extension of the term loan and revolving credit facility provides financial flexibility. Speaker 300:12:18In the second quarter, we repurchased approximately 2 million shares for $20.6 million at an average price of $10.01 per share. Based on the shares repurchased through June 30th, 2025, we have approximately $51.1 million remaining in our total repurchase authorization. I would now like to finish by discussing our outlook for the third quarter and full year of 2025. As a reminder, our guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA for 2025 is based on our continued operations, which excludes marketing technology solutions. For the third quarter of 2025, we expect total revenue of $146.5 to $149.5 million and adjusted EBITDA of $41 to $43 million. For full year 2025, we expect total revenue of $581 to $601 million, and we are increasing our guidance for adjusted EBITDA to a range of $171 to $177 million. Operator, we are now ready to take the first question. Speaker 900:13:26Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Our first question comes from the line of Bhavin S. Shah with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:13:42Great. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter. Eric, maybe just for you to start off, can you just maybe give us a little state of the union on where you are in terms of your transformation initiatives and how you guys think you're progressing against that? Speaker 100:13:56Yeah, you know, when we talk about the transformation optimization, many of those are ongoing scenarios that we're going to continue to look for opportunities, specifically in optimization, continue to gain more margin as we get more efficient across the organization. From a transformation perspective, it was really focused on creating more energy and more focus within the BUs in the specific verticals EverHealth and EverPro. Both our CEOs that we've talked about before, Evan Berlin and Josh McCarter, are both doing a phenomenal job building out organizations, building out full management teams, getting the teams closer to the end customer, which we're starting to see really positive results in efficiency and sales efficiency and marketing efficiency, and other things that we really had expected to happen. We're starting to see some of those green shoots happen already. Speaker 100:14:49That's great. Just a quick follow-up for Ryan. Ryan, I think the second quarter in a row where you guys have exceeded the top end of your revenue guidance, why not raise the rest of the year? Is there anything that you're seeing from a macro perspective or anything else we should keep in mind for the backend? Speaker 400:15:03Yeah, no, I appreciate the question. Thanks, Bhavin. From a macro perspective, things continue to trend well. We've talked about how we are relatively resilient overall in terms of the macro economy. We will continue to track that and look at it on a regular basis. We felt comfortable raising the adjusted EBITDA guidance really because of the confidence we have in the back half of the year, but also looking at some moderation with regard to the overperformance that we had in the first half of the year for investments and other things that we're doing, really to continue to generate growth and acceleration in active programs like payments or cross-sell and upsell opportunities. On the revenue side, it's really being prudent with regard to what we see the back half of the year compared to the first half of the year. Speaker 400:15:48At this point, we feel comfortable with both the remaining revenue guidance for the back half of the year as well as the raise on the adjusted EBITDA guidance. Speaker 400:15:58That's helpful. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 900:16:01Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kirk Matern with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:16:08Hi, this is Bill Armstrong Kirk, and thanks for taking my question. What are some of the embedded AI functionalities that you believe will enhance the overall customer experience of your software going forward? Operator00:16:22Yeah, I'll start in terms of things that we've actually done from an AI perspective, then I'll pass it over to Evan and potentially Josh, who will talk about some of the things that we're considering. Over the last 18 months, and we've talked about this, we've launched AI-powered features across several of our product lines, including, you know, prospect marketing solutions and our customer engagement, our customer experience solution. We've launched customer survey tools within our customer experience solutions, and those have helped us improve prospect targeting for the end customer and customer engagement and actionable insights that our customers now have because of the embedded AI that we've put in those products. AI advancement within our products is now a core part of our future product roadmaps, really across all of our verticals. Operator00:17:08I'll pass it over to Evan to start in terms of, you know, some thoughts at the EverHealth level. Speaker 500:17:15Yeah, thanks, Matt. I think the features we've got embedded in the roadmap for the rest of the year are features that really help our customers be more efficient. Thinking about things in the clinical space like ambient scribe, appointment no-show predictors that help them just run a more efficient business. We have a full roadmap already built for 2026. Look for more features to be delivered across all of our core products within EverHealth. Speaker 500:17:43Great. Can you provide us, you know, do you have any early thoughts on the passage of the One Day Beautiful Bill in terms of tax implications? Speaker 400:17:54Yeah, I would say it's early for us in terms of the analysis of that. It's ongoing in terms of the implication, but we do think there'll be some benefits from limitations that previously existed from interest deductibility as an example. On an ongoing basis, we'll have more to share, I think, in the coming quarter. Speaker 400:18:14Appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 900:18:17Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew George Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:18:24Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on another good quarter. I guess, you know, circling back on the revenue guide, you've beat expectations on the top line for now two straight quarters, and you've maintained the full year guide. I can appreciate there's probably some conservatism from macros in there, but just making sure there's nothing else, like were deals pulled into the first half or anything that you sort of, like, flagged for the second half? It feels like you're coming off of a strong first half of the year. Speaker 400:18:51The first half of the year was strong, and we feel good about that. We didn't pull in anything unusual from a revenue perspective in Q1 or Q2. We're not planning to pull anything in necessarily from a Q3 or Q4 perspective either. We do a bottoms-up build, and we look at all the different factors within each one of the solutions. As you know, we have some top solutions that are core to our systems of action as well as payments. We also have a number of other important solutions as well. It's a relatively complex build, but we feel good about what we're setting for Q3 and Q4. Yes, there is some conservatism. We like to call it prudence, but we want to make sure that we're not being overly aggressive in terms of what we're publishing. Speaker 400:19:40I think from our standpoint right now, we feel like what we're guiding towards is appropriate for both Q3 and Q4. Speaker 400:19:49Got it. Okay. I wanted to follow up on AI as well. Last quarter, you talked not only about, you know, from a product perspective, but using AI internally to just improve efficiency. I wonder if you can give a little bit of update there. Are you seeing any improvements, whether it's in R&D with code suggestion tools or sales and marketing, customer service? Any sort of anecdotal evidence that it could be driving, you know, either more efficiencies there or perhaps even, you know, better sales outcomes? Operator00:20:17Yeah, no, for sure. I'm going to focus on customer support. I think we have talked about this in the past, but that continues to be an area where, again, still early innings with AI. Across all of our functions, we are actively leaning in an AI-forward way to find efficiencies. In customer service, specifically our customer support operation within mobile solutions at EverPro, we have deployed AI agents within our chat channel that are now resolving between 25% to 50% of all support tickets that come in, depending on which solution within that mobile mix. We've got customer SAT scores that are above 85% and generating some nice significant cost avoidance from that standpoint. That is literally just across our chat channel. We're going to add email and voice channel there, and we expect that impact to grow meaningfully. We are excited. Operator00:21:08It is still the early innings from a functional standpoint of that. Yes, from a product and engineering standpoint, from a digital marketing standpoint, from a people operations standpoint, and from a financial systems and security operations standpoint, those are areas where we're actively testing and learning into the productivity gains and the efficiency gains from utilizing this technology company-wide. Operator00:21:32Great. Thanks for the call. Speaker 900:21:36Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question at this time, please press star one one on your touch-tone telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Alexander Sklar with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:21:47Hi, thanks for taking the question. This is John on for Alex. I wanted to dig in a little bit with the customers utilizing more than one solution. We've seen a really nice step up in the amount of customers using more than one solution in one queue and now again in two queue. Do you think this upper single digit, low double digit thousand growth is the right cadence to think about moving forward? I have a quick follow-up. Operator00:22:09Yeah, I'd say we're obviously really pleased with the progress we've made. We're obviously not going to guide to growth percentages there. I think you heard Eric talk about in his comments the areas where we've obviously continued to make investments in product and technology and go to market to better enable that continued multi-product take and ultimately utilization. Payments is more than 85% of that multi-product enablement and utilization. You also heard Eric talk through across our core growth pillars and payments from attachment to activation to wallet share expansion. Again, significant execution and investment in those areas just to continue to expand the value that we can provide to our customers in areas like attachment, launching something like Canadian processing capabilities at some of our solutions where we didn't have them, allow us to access an unaddressable part of the base that we had before. Operator00:23:09In areas like wallet share expansion, really continuing to refine payments workflows within our systems of action and increasing ways to pay, mobile check capture, ACH payment, Google and Apple Pay support. These things add flexibility and also increase and really drive that merchant processing volume from where it was to where we believe it can be. Again, really pleased with the progress we've made. There is significant runway for us to continue to drive more utilization of second, third, fourth products into the base. As we continue to integrate more of those products into our systems of action, we expect to do just that. Speaker 100:23:49To add to what Matt said, as we've talked about a bunch, these are the leading indicators. These are the top of the funnel. Our job is to kind of continue to execute down funnel so we can increase revenue and increase retention. As more customers take more products, obviously that grows revenue. The more products an individual customer takes, it significantly increases retention as well. Speaker 100:24:11Okay, thanks. Really good call there. Can you maybe help frame the spread between the total payment volume growth we saw this quarter and that customers using more than one solution? Is there a lag there that we should think about as customers are enabled to use more than one solution and use payments? Is there maybe some macro factors that are causing that bit of the spread? Operator00:24:34Yeah, we wouldn't call it macro. I think, again, as Eric explained, it is a funnel. You start at the top of the funnel with attach. Obviously, making nice significant strides there. Utilization comes next. Wallet share expansion comes there. It comes after that. There is a lag only in that you do need to take every single customer down that funnel in terms of enablement into utilization and to expansion. Secondarily, obviously, we've talked about this in the past. We have a pretty broad portfolio of solutions where we've integrated payments. Some of them are more mature legacy portfolios that are growing at a bit slower of a rate. Obviously, we've again talked about our top five payment opportunities where we have the most significant executional approach and investments. Those are growing at a much faster rate. Operator00:25:24The TPV there is growing between 12% to 13% from a year-over-year perspective. Many of those are less than 10% penetrated. The opportunity is incredibly large. Yes, there's a lag from a funnel perspective. We look to continue to grow through just some of the more mature legacy parts of the portfolio. Operator00:25:46Thank you very much. Speaker 900:25:48Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Jacob Kimson with Citizens JMP Securities LLC. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:25:56Great, thank you. Eric, you started this business as a payments company. Payments was 21% of revenue in the first half of this year, up from 17% full year 2024. Obviously, it's a big piece of the thesis going forward. Given the Circle IPO in June and all the subsequent investor attention that's gone into understanding the potential of stablecoins to affect payments revenue streams, how do you think about the potential for stablecoins to affect a greater method of payment in your service-based SMB customer base over the medium and long term, if at all? Speaker 100:26:27I appreciate the question. In terms of focusing on stablecoins and how it's going to affect our current payment methods, that is not currently on the roadmap, quite honestly. We provide many ways for our customers to get paid. To date, there's been, I would say, anecdotally not few requests. There's been zero requests for things of that nature. We will continue to be very focused on what our customers need, build products, build roadmaps based upon making sure that they get what they need to accept payments the way they need to, in addition to being able to provide their customers what they want. We will be responsive to the marketplace if and when that happens. To date, it's definitely not in the short-term roadmap. I wouldn't even say midterm. Clearly, that can shift if the market sentiment shifts. Right now, that's not a core focus. Speaker 100:27:24Got it. That's really helpful. Ryan, can you talk about the improved visibility you have into the business as a result of the MarTech discontinuation and eventual divestiture when giving us guidance now? Maybe also what needs to go right to potentially accelerate back to a double-digit grower in the out years? Thanks. Speaker 400:27:42Yeah, no, I appreciate the question, Aaron. Really, from a visibility perspective, I would say for the most part, what we've taken out from a continuing operations perspective is seasonality or variabilities to seasonality. It's much more linear. I think overall, there is very little seasonality when you take out MarTech from the overall business. I would say that it just continues to refocus essentially where everybody is spending their time and effort, which is within EverPro and EverHealth and EverWell at this point in time. We continue with the process on the MarTech side, and we will continue with the optimization efforts that we have. I think you can see that coming through from our operating expenses as a percentage of revenue overall. Speaker 400:28:25If you look at the LTM on a basis of year-over-year analysis, we're going to continue to, as we talked about it earlier, we have the transformation efforts, we have the optimization efforts. On the optimization piece, we intend to actually take costs out on an optimized basis, whether it's through AI or otherwise, in order to make the continued investments for, you know, revenue expansion that we want to make going forward. Speaker 900:28:53Thank you. I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to hand the call back over to Eric Remer for closing remarks. Speaker 100:29:01Thank you guys for joining us today. Not only did we beat our headline expectations, we're also showing real positive momentum in our leading indicators. This is exactly what we set out to do, and I look forward to sharing our continued success in the coming quarters. Thanks again. Speaker 900:29:16This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by