Vasta Platform Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Vasta’s subscription revenue increased 16% to BRL 1.34 billion in the 2025 sales cycle, sustaining fourth consecutive year of double-digit growth while complementary solutions grew 24%.
  • Positive Sentiment: Adjusted EBITDA for the cycle rose 8% to BRL 462 million with a 31.1% margin, and Q2 alone delivered BRL 42 million at an 11.7% margin, reflecting improved profitability.
  • Positive Sentiment: Free cash flow jumped 147% year-over-year to BRL 223 million in the cycle and the free cash flow/EBITDA conversion rate climbed to 57.7%, driving net debt/EBITDA down to 1.9×.
  • Negative Sentiment: B2G net revenue in the cycle fell 78% to BRL 15 million versus BRL 69 million last year due to the Para contract timing, though the second semester of Para and new state wins are expected to drive recovery.
  • Positive Sentiment: Start Anglo Bilingual School expanded to seven operating units with over 50 signed contracts and plans to open eight more schools in 2026 as a key growth avenue.
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Earnings Conference Call
Vasta Platform Q2 2025
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There are 4 speakers on the call.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon and welcome to Vasta Platform Limited's second quarter 2025 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. To ask a question at that time, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Before we begin, I would like to read a forward-looking statement. During today's presentation, our executives will make forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements generally relate to future events or future financial or operating performance and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements.

Speaker 1

Forward-looking statements in this presentation include, but are not limited to, statements related to our business and financial performance, expectations for future periods, our expectations regarding our strategic product initiatives and their related benefit, and our expectations regarding the market. Forward-looking statements are based on our management's beliefs and assumptions and on information currently available to our management. These risks include those set forth in the press release that we are issuing today, as well as those more fully described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The forward-looking statements in this presentation are based on the information available to us as of today. We should not rely on them as predictions of future events, and we disclaim any obligation to update any forward-looking statement except as required by law. In addition, management may reference non-IFRS financial measures on this call.

Speaker 1

The non-IFRS financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with IFRS. I would now like to turn the call over to Cesar Silva, Chief Financial Officer. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hello, everyone, and good evening, and thank you for joining us in this conference call to discuss Vasta Platform's second quarter of 2025 results. I'm Cesar Silva, Vasta's CFO, and today we have the presence of Guilherme Mélega, Vasta's CEO, who will be joining me on the call. Let me now hand over the floor to Guilherme Mélega, our CEO, to make his opening statements.

Operator

Thank you, Cesar. Thank you all for participating in our earnings call. Let's move to slide number three with some highlights of 2025. We are now entering the final portion of the 2025 sales cycle, which runs from October 2024 to September 2025. I'm pleased to report that in the second quarter, we continue to deliver solid financial and operational performance with consistent growth across both our core and complementary solutions. A particular highlight this quarter was our free cash flow. Subscription revenue reached R$1.34 billion in the cycle to date, a 16% increase compared to the same period of 2024. This result demonstrates our ability to sustain double-digit growth in our core business for the fourth consecutive year. Our complementary solution business grew 24%, supported by accelerated expansion in both student base and market penetration.

Operator

As a result, net revenue in 2025's cycle to date reached R$1.488 billion, a 14% increase compared to the same period in 2024. This growth was driven by the successful conversion of ACV bookings into revenue, along with the strong performance of complementary business. In the B2G segment, we recorded R$9 million in revenue from new customers, totaling R$50 million in the cycle to date. Over the last two quarters, we generated R$14 million from new customers, mainly municipalities, who began using our product and service, confirming that our strategy is on the right track and diversifying our B2G portfolio into states and municipalities. In the 2024 sales cycle, we booked R$69 million revenue from the PARA contract, which was recognized all at once, covering the first and second semester.

Operator

In the current cycle, the first semester of PARA was booked in Q4 2024, and the second semester is expected to be performed in the second half of 2025. On the profitability front, adjusted EBITDA reached R$462 million, an 8% increase compared to the previous cycle. The EBITDA margin was 31.1%, reflecting a different product mix, lower year-to-date B2G revenue, and higher marketing expenses related to business expansion. In Q2 alone, adjusted EBITDA was R$42 million, with a margin of 11.7%, up 2.9 percentage points from Q2 2024. Free cash flow remains a key strength. In the cycle to date, free cash flow totaled R$224 million, an increase of R$133 million year over year. In Q2 2025, free cash flow reached R$80 million, a 108% increase compared to Q2 2024.

Operator

Our last 12 months' free cash flow to EBITDA conversion rate improved to 57.7%, driven by growth and sustained efficiency measures. These results reflect our ongoing efforts in operational discipline, from automation in collection process to centralized payment scheduling and renegotiation of supplier terms. We also continue to make progress in deleveraging, with net debt/EBITDA last 12 months at 1.9 times, down from 2.28 times in Q2 2024. Turning to Start Anglo Bilingual School, another important growth avenue, we can say that our operations continue to expand. We implemented five new operating units this year, and together with our two flagship schools, we now have seven units in operation. Closing this quarter, we have signed over 50 contracts, and we are actively working to deliver another strong growth cycle in this business line. Finally, we remain committed to innovation and inclusion.

Operator

As we prepare for 2026, Plurall AI will introduce new tools focusing on equity and personalized learning. The Individualized Education Plan, IEP, will empower educators with tailored pedagogical recommendations, supporting inclusive practice and transforming challenges into opportunities for growth. We are confident in our strategy and proud of the progress made so far. I'll now turn back to Cesar Silva, who will walk us through the financial results.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Mélega. In slide number four, we present the composition of Vasta's net revenue. On the left side, you can observe the organic growth for the second quarter in the total net revenue, which increased by 21.8%, reaching R$358 million. Vasta's subscription revenue achieved in the second quarter of 2025, R$320 million, a 15% increase compared to the same quarter of 2024. Non-subscription revenue increased 98% to R$29 million due to a seasonal effect between the first and second quarters related to delivery of books. In the governance segment in this quarter, we generated R$9 million in revenues. Together with this R$5 million booked last quarter, we totaled R$14 million in new customers. In the sales cycle, we achieved R$15 million, a decrease of 28% in comparison to R$69 million of 2024, as was explained by Guilherme before.

Speaker 2

Moving to the right side, you have the numbers of the net revenue for the 2025 sales cycle to date. We achieved an organic growth revenue of 13.6% in the 2025 sales cycle to date, amounting to R$1.408 billion. The main factors for this performance were, firstly, the subscription revenue had increased 16%, reaching R$1.34 billion, and continues to be the major contributor to our total revenue, representing now 90% of the revenue share. Non-subscription revenue increased 11% to R$98 million. This growth is mainly driven by two effects: the new revenue for our flagship Start Anglo Bilingual School sale in São Paulo, that did not exist in 2024, and the growth in the number of students in the Anglo-Pair University course, which enrolled 21% more students than last year.

Speaker 2

Moving to slide number five, you can see that in this quarter, our adjusted EBITDA amounted to R$42 million, with a margin of 11.7%, an increase of 62% from the R$26 million in the second quarter of 2024, mainly due to the growth in core content and B2G net revenue. On the right side, we see that the adjusted EBITDA in the 2025 sales cycle increased by 8.1% to reach R$462 million, with a margin of 31.1%. Let's now move on to the next slide and explain the breakdown of the adjusted EBITDA margin. In slide number six, we can see that the adjusted EBITDA margin achieved 31.1% in the sales cycle, 1.6 percentage points lower than the same period of 2024.

Speaker 2

Our gross margin reached 62%, a decrease of 2.4 percentage points from 64.4% in the 2024 sales cycle, due to a lower revenue in B2G and a different product mix. Provisions for doubtful accounts achieved 3.1% in relation to the net revenue and have an improvement of 0.9 percentage points when compared to 2024. This indication has been showing improvement during the year, despite the very challenging regulatory crisis environment for non-premium brands, and we still have foreseen some challenges in the credit scenario for the next month. As a percentage of net revenue, our commercial expense increased by 0.6 percentage points, driven by higher expense related to business expansion of the commercial cycle of 2026, and we remain stable in the year at 17%. Finally, adjusted G&A expense is improved by 0.5 percentage points, mainly driven by workforce optimization and budgetary discipline measures.

Speaker 2

Moving to slide number seven, we show the adjusted net profit. In the second quarter of 2025, adjusted net losses total -R$29 million, showing an improvement from the adjusted net loss of -R$37 million in the same quarter of 2024. In the sales cycle, adjusted net profit reached R$111 million, and there has been a slight increase of 1% from an adjusted net profit of R$110 million in 2024. Moving to slide number eight, we show the free cash flow evolution. In the second quarter of 2025, the free cash flow totaled R$8 million, representing a relevant increase compared to -R$38 million in the same period of 2024. In the 2025 sales cycle, our free cash flow reached R$223 million, an increase of 147% from 2024.

Speaker 2

The cash flow generation in this cycle has an outstanding performance and achieved the highest level of conversion related to the adjusted EBITDA in the last years, achieving 57.7%. This is 26% better than the same indicator as last year. This improvement is explained by certain measures that the company has been implementing and they are showing results. We can mention some of these measures. In our collection process, we implemented an automatized process, like reminders and fast notifications to the customers. We created a customer classification measure to make a faster renegotiation of overdue receivables. On the payment side, we implemented several initiatives to enhance discipline in payments, such as rigorous financial planning, centralized payment scheduling, and negotiating longer payment terms with suppliers.

Speaker 2

Additionally, the first semester of 2025 benefited from early collections of the 2025 sales cycle, which are expected to be normalized throughout the next quarters of the year. It is worth mentioning that for the year, we expect that we will achieve a conversion rate of about 50% in the 2025 fiscal year at the end of the year. This will represent a relevant increase from 41.8% compared to the same indicator in the last year of 2024. Moving to slide number nine, we show the provision for doubtful accounts. Total expenses with PDA in the second quarter of 2025 totaled R$11,000,000, representing 3.1% of net revenue, an improvement from the comparable quarter in 2024, when the PDA achieved 3.4% of net revenue. In the sales cycle of 2025, the PDA amounted to R$45,000,000, compared to R$52,000,000 in 2024.

Speaker 2

Provision for doubtful accounts represents 3.1% of net revenue in 2025, an improvement of 0.29 percentage points in comparison to 2024. As explained before, we still foresee some difficulties in the credit scenario, mainly for the schools related to mainstream brands. Moving to the next slide, we observe that the average payment terms of Vasta's accounts receivable portfolio was 153 days in the second quarter of 2025, which is one day higher than the comparable quarter in line with the business model's reasonability. Moving to the next slide, let's take a closer look at the net debt movement. In the second quarter of 2025, Vasta had a net debt position of R$917,000,000, R$46,000,000 lower than the previous quarter. These achievements are due to the positive cash flow generated during the period in the amount of R$80,000,000, which surpassed the impact of interest accrued of R$34,000,000.

Speaker 2

Moving to the right side of the slide, the net debt position decreased by R$123,000,000 in the sales cycle to date. This decrease was driven also by the free cash flow generated in 2025, which was partially offset by the financial interest costs. I will conclude my part of this presentation with slide 12, explaining some more detail about our net debt composition, which represents R$917,000,000 at the end of the quarter. This amount is composed of R$717,000,000 on the debentures issued to the parent company, in addition to R$462,000,000 on accounts payables for business combination, mainly related to 11 acquisitions. These numbers were offset by R$315,000,000 on cash that the company owns.

Speaker 2

In the lower left part of this slide, we can see that in the second quarter of 2025, the net debt/EBITDA ratio for the last 12 months has decreased 0.16 times from the last quarter and now is centered at 1.9 times. We would like to reinforce our commitment to continuing to generate free cash flow and leverage the company. Having said that, I finish our presentation and invite you all to the Q&A session.

Speaker 1

As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw any questions, press star one again. Our first question comes from Marcelo Santos from JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 1

Hi. Good evening. Thanks for the presentation and the opportunity to make questions. I wonder if you could comment a bit on the commercial cycle and the competitive environment, and focus on core and complementary, how these two are going. The second question is regarding the outlook for B2G contracts for new states and if the election year is a good year or is a bad year to close this kind of contracts. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you, Marcelo, for your questions. Let me give you some flavor about the commercial cycle. We are keeping the pace in our commercial cycle for 2026. We are seeing a very positive outlook for complementary products. The penetration in our school base keeps running, keeps improving. There is definitely demand for bilingual, social-emotional, and nature products. We have been growing, with more than 20% on complementary, and we don't see that changing a lot for the next cycle. In terms of renewed contracts, I would say, so far, it had been a very good year. We keep a very positive outlook for 2026, mainly because we have a very strong portfolio, very complementary to the school needs, and I think we reached a very unique position to keep the growth. The market is very competitive, but we are moving ahead on that.

Operator

In terms of B2G, our strategy to keep growing on B2G has been performative. We have around 10 new customers in the year to date, totaling R$15 million in new contracts year to date. We are working also in retail in B2G. Now we have municipalities on our base, benefiting from the learning recomposition and SAED preparatory. We still have the second semester of the PARA contract to be booked. We start receiving the orders, and we expect at least one new state by year-end. That's pretty much the outlook. It's very positive for B2G also.

Operator

Thanks. Just to follow up, conceptually, is an election year a normal year, a good year, a bad year? I know, of course, you don't have a crystal ball, but what can you say about the differences between selling during an election year and not selling in an election year?

Operator

Yeah. We don't have much history on that since it's a very, it's a quite new business. I pretty much give my guess that if you are doing an important, if you are helping the state or the client, probably election year wouldn't be such a problem to keep the contract. Definitely, with elections, you have new governors and mayors willing to do new things on their mandates. Let's wait and see. So far, we have a positive outlook.

Operator

All right, thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Flavio Yoshida from Bank of America. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 1

Hi. Good evening, everyone. I have two questions on my side. The first one is on the EBITDA margin, which came in in very good shape, helped by lower provisions, right? I would like to understand if the premium schools, the fact that premium schools are gaining share on the mix, helps this trend and also if we should expect this provisioning level to continue improving going forward. My second question is also on B2G. I was wondering if you guys could share with us the B2G expectations for the second half of this year, if we could expect a similar level from last year or if we could expect some growth compared to the same period of last year. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, Flavio. Talking about margins, yes, the margin is a reflect of premium products that we are selling. We are, and also the growth. The growth has been a very important driver for margins since it dilutes a very significant fixed cost that we have. We expect Q4 to be a very important quarter because we recognize all the growth for 2026, and revenues and margins should be slightly above the 30% level. In terms of B2G, yes, we do have a very positive outlook for the second semester. We expect to record the second half of the biggest contract that we have, which is PARA. We booked the first semester in Q4 2024, and we are receiving the orders for the second semester of 2025.

Operator

On top of that, we have 10 new customers, with more shipments in Q3 and Q4, and we expect to have new customers in municipalities, which are smaller contracts but enhancing our base. We expect to grow in a state for Q4 2025. That's the outlook. It's a positive trend.

Operator

Okay, that's very clear. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Lucas Nagano from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hi. Can you hear me? Sorry, I was on mute. Yeah, thanks, and good evening. We have two questions. The first is related to Start Anglo. From the contracts you already signed, do you expect all of them to begin operations already in 2026? The second question is related to the non-subscription revenue. If you could provide some more color on this line, because you mentioned that the performance was kind of seasonal, but even when you look at the cycle-to-date growth, it's growing pretty decently. What's driving this? Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Thank you, Lucas. No, the new contracts, we have around 50 new contracts for Start Anglo. We are already operating seven schools, two flagships, and five franchisees. We expect to have eight more new units in 2026, and the remaining will be opening in 2027 and 2028, with a huge concentration in 2027. Regarding the non-subscription, yes, we have a seasonality in terms of revenue recognition in Q2. We have more recognitions, but the growth, when you look at the cycle to date, is mainly driven by the tuitions that we have on our two flagships of Start, São José do Rio Preto and Liceu Pasteur in São Paulo, together with the prep courses, the Anglo prep courses that also grew. The cycle to date reflects best the trend of this business, which now accounts for tuitions from our two flagship schools.

Operator

That's pretty much the trend for the non-subscription.

Operator

Very clear. Thank you, Mélega.

Speaker 1

We have no further questions. I'd like to turn the call back over to our CEO, Guilherme Mélega, for closing remarks.

Operator

Thank you all for participating in our call. The 2025 sales cycle to date continues reflecting Vasta's solid execution and strategic focus. Our consistent revenue growth, strong cash flow generation, and expansion in core business and complementary products, together with the two growth avenues of Start Anglo and B2G, reflect the commitment to delivering long-term value for our stakeholders. Thank you all for continuing to support us. We look forward to seeing you on the next call. Thank you all.

Speaker 1

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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