NASDAQ:INVE Identiv Q2 2025 Earnings Report $2.32 -0.03 (-1.28%) As of 01:06 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Identiv EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.26Consensus EPS -$0.31Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/AIdentiv Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$5.04 millionExpected Revenue$5.10 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$60.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AIdentiv Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date8/7/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 7, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsIdentiv's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Monday, November 9, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Identiv Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Negative Sentiment: Q2 revenue was $5,000,000, within guidance but down from $6,700,000 in Q2 2024 as the company exits lower-margin business and its largest customer works through inventory. Negative Sentiment: GAAP gross margin was –9.4% and non-GAAP gross margin was –0.8%, versus positive levels last year, due to dual-site production costs and a $600,000 obsolete inventory charge, though margins should improve as Singapore operations wind down. Positive Sentiment: The company completed its manufacturing transfer from Singapore to Thailand, requalifying all customers and expecting full productivity at the lower-cost facility by early next year. Positive Sentiment: Identiv announced a strategic partnership with ISCO to pilot and ultimately tag over 400,000,000 reusable packaging containers with BLE smart labels, targeting mass production in 2026 to reduce fresh produce waste. Positive Sentiment: Under its “Perform, Accelerate, Transform” framework, Identiv grew its sales pipeline by 33% quarter-over-quarter and launched multiple BLE and NFC development projects and strategic partnerships to drive long-term growth. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallIdentiv Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 4 speakers on the call. Speaker 300:00:00Good afternoon and welcome to Identiv's presentation of its second quarter 2025 earnings call. My name is Matthew, and I'll be your operator this afternoon. Joining us for today's presentation are the company's CEO, Kirsten Newquist, and CFO, Ed Kirnbauer. Following management's remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, please note that during the call, management may be making references to non-GAAP financial measures for guidance, including non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP gross profit, non-GAAP gross margin, and non-GAAP operating expenses. In addition, during the call, management will be making forward-looking statements. Any statement that refers to expectations, projections, or other characteristics of future events, including future financial results, future business and marketing conditions and opportunities, strategic partnerships and collaborations, and any related benefits and attributes in future plans, strategies, opportunities, and goals is a forward-looking statement. Speaker 300:01:02Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward-looking statements. For more information, please refer to the risk factors described in the documents filed from time to time with the SEC, including the company's latest annual report on Form 10-K, as well as our second quarter 10-Q once filed. Identiv assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to CEO Kirsten Newquist for her comments. Ms. Newquist, please proceed. Speaker 100:01:33Thanks, operator, and thank you all for joining our Q2 2025 earnings call. Before we begin, I'm very pleased to announce that Ed Kirnbauer has been officially appointed Chief Financial Officer by the Identiv Board of Directors. Ed has been serving as Acting CFO since last month, and today's announcement marks his permanent transition into the role. Ed has been with Identiv since 2015, most recently serving as our Global Corporate Controller. He also stepped in as Interim CFO in late 2021. Prior to joining Identiv, Ed held senior finance positions in the technology and manufacturing sectors and began his career at KPMG. We're excited to welcome him into this leadership position as he continues to bring deep expertise and steady guidance to our finance organization. Speaker 100:02:34Now turning to our second quarter business update, we continue to see macro trends driving strong demand for RFID and next-generation technologies like BLE, even amidst ongoing global market volatility. Businesses are seeking deeper intelligence into their operations and customer engagement to strengthen their competitive position and better differentiate their offerings. Identiv is enabling that deeper intelligence as we help our customers add digital identities to physical products through RFID. This increased demand is being accelerated by several key factors: the rapid expansion of IoT-connected devices, evolving regulatory landscapes, rising anti-counterfeiting pressures, and a growing global emphasis on sustainability. RFID and related technologies generate the real-world data needed to power digital transformation and, increasingly, AI. As businesses adopt AI to improve forecasting, logistics, and operations, they need accurate, real-time data from the physical world. Our products serve as a critical bridge, turning physical items into data-generating assets. Speaker 100:03:56Identiv is helping to lead this transformation. Our specialized IoT inlay, tags, and labels provide digital IDs that solve real-world challenges across sectors, from cold chain logistics to smart packaging to healthcare and consumer electronics. Our devices enable real-time tracking, condition monitoring, compliance, security, and more engaging consumer experiences. Financially, our Q2 revenue was $5 million within our previously announced guidance. Our core channel business remains on track, though we are seeing increased competition, particularly within our standard product lines, where several competitors have recently expanded manufacturing capacity. We are also closely monitoring macroeconomic risks, particularly regarding U.S. trade with Thailand. On July 31, the White House announced a 19% tariff on imports from Thailand. This was generally seen as a positive for electronics manufacturers based in Thailand, as it is a significant reduction from the previously announced 36% rate and positions Thailand as a reliable manufacturing alternative to China. Speaker 100:05:19However, the requirements around the amount of Thailand-made components needed to obtain a Thailand certificate of origin are still a source of uncertainty, particularly with new U.S. measures aimed at preventing transshipment. As we noted on our May call, approximately a quarter of our business is exposed to U.S. import tariffs due to our manufacturing footprint in Thailand. We developed a responsible pass-through strategy to protect margins, and to date, all affected customers have agreed to absorb the additional costs. The potential indirect effect on customer demand, especially in more discretionary segments, is less clear. A key highlight this quarter: earlier this week, we announced a strategic partnership with grocery logistics leader Ifco to enhance traceability, efficiency, and sustainability across the fresh grocery supply chain. Speaker 100:06:20Ifco is the world's leading provider of reusable packaging solutions for grocery products, and we have been closely collaborating with the Ifco team for several months to develop and launch a BLE-enabled smart label that will enable real-time tracking and temperature monitoring of Ifco's extensive global pool of reusable packaging containers (RPCs). With over 400 million RPCs in circulation, the value expected to be provided by our smart label in reducing the waste of fresh produce is significant. The goal is to tag the entire pool of 400 million-plus RPCs over the next four to five years, representing a major volume opportunity. This initiative is a top strategic priority, as we are currently producing prototypes for pilot-scale runs and expect to begin mass production in 2026. Operationally, we achieved a major milestone in Q2 by completing the transfer of production from Singapore to our lower-cost facility in Thailand. Speaker 100:07:31All customers have been successfully requalified, and the Thailand team is progressing well toward full productivity by early next year. A small transition team remains in Singapore to manage the site closure and support continued training in Thailand. Strategically, we are now six months into executing our Perform, Accelerate, Transform (PAT) strategy. The key objectives of PAT are: (1) to strengthen and optimize the performance of our core channel business, (2) accelerate our growth through high-value applications, and (3) ultimately transform Identiv into a market leader of specialty IoT solutions. We've made measurable progress across all three pillars this quarter, and I will provide more detail after end reviews of financials. In closing, despite a challenging macro backdrop, we believe our customers clearly see the value Identiv provides. Our specialized IoT tags, inlays, and labels are not only enabling digital transformation, but are solving real-world industry challenges. Speaker 100:08:48These long-term trends not only remain intact but, in many ways, are accelerating. As a focused, pure-play IoT solutions company, we are executing our PAT strategy with discipline, and we believe this positions us well for sustainable long-term growth. Ed, over to you. Speaker 200:09:11Thanks, Kirsten. Having been with Identiv for nearly 10 years, I'm excited to move into the CFO role at this transformative time in our company's history and look forward to meeting with the investment community in the upcoming months. In the second quarter of 2025, we delivered $5.0 million in revenue, which was within our previously announced guidance range, compared to $6.7 million in Q2 2024. This year-over-year decrease was due to lower sales of RFID transponder products as we continue to exit lower margin business and reduce sales to our largest customer, who is working through inventory they built up in 2024 in anticipation of transitioning production to Thailand. Second quarter GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin was -9.4% and -0.8%, respectively, compared to GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin of 9.1% and 14.6%, respectively, in Q2 2024. Speaker 200:10:18Factors impacting the decrease in gross margin included incremental costs related to the transition of production to Thailand and the dual manufacturing sites required during that transition, as well as decreased utilization due to lower year-over-year revenues. In addition, we recorded adjustments, which included approximately $0.6 million associated with obsolete inventory at our Singapore facility. As Kirsten mentioned, we have completed production of RFID devices in Singapore and requalified our customers in our Thailand production facility. Facility shutdown activities in Singapore are progressing as planned and are expected to be substantially completed by year-end. GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter of 2025, including research and development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses, totaled $5.9 million and $4.5 million, respectively, as compared to $7.3 million and $4.7 million, respectively, in Q2 2024. Speaker 200:11:26The year-over-year decrease in GAAP operating expenses was driven primarily by a reduction in one-time strategic review-related costs. The decrease in non-GAAP operating expenses reflects management's targeted resource allocation to support the company's organic growth initiatives, as outlined in the PAT strategic framework. Second quarter GAAP loss from continuing operations was $6.0 million or $0.26 per basic and diluted share, compared to GAAP net loss from continuing operations of $6.9 million or $0.31 per basic and diluted share in the second quarter of 2024. This decrease in net loss was primarily due to strategic review-related costs of $1.6 million incurred in the second quarter of 2024 that did not occur in the second quarter of 2025, and unrealized foreign currency losses of $0.9 million, partially offset by interest income of $1.3 million. Speaker 200:12:29Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss for Q2 2025 was $4.6 million, compared to $3.7 million in the second quarter of 2024. The decrease was primarily due to Thailand transition costs and adjustments for obsolete inventory at our Singapore production facility. In the appendix of today's presentation, we have provided a full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial information, which is also included in our earnings release. Moving now to the balance sheet, we exited Q2 2025 with $129.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. In the second quarter of 2025, we used $3 million in cash. This brings our total net operating cash used for the nine months following September 30, 2024, to $10.3 million. Previously, we expected net operating cash used for the 12-month period following September 30, 2024, to be in the range of $14 million to $16 million. Speaker 200:13:35Given our cash usage through Q2 2025 and current expectations for Q3, we are revising this range to $13 million to $15 million for the period ending September 30, 2025. Our working capital exiting Q2 was $137.5 million. Our balance sheet position remains strong, enabling us to pursue our organic and inorganic growth initiatives within the PAT strategic framework. In our 10-Q filing, we will be providing a full reconciliation of the year-to-date cash flows. For completeness, we have included the full balance sheet in the appendix of today's earnings release. Lastly, our financial outlook. We're continuing to monitor macroeconomic risks, particularly those related to U.S. trade with Thailand, as Kirsten mentioned. We're also looking at any indirect impacts these risks could have on customer demand and project timelines. Speaker 200:14:38In addition to these risks, we are also mindful of the ongoing competitive pressures on our standard product lines, which have been impacted by increased manufacturing capacity from some of our key competitors. This is causing some headwinds in the shorter term with standard product opportunities. As the macroeconomic environment evolves and we gain more visibility, we're prepared for a variety of possible outcomes. As we continue to exit lower margin business, we anticipate our largest customer will continue to reduce their inventory position. Based on this outlook, as of today's call for Q3 2025, we currently expect net revenue in the range of $4.8 million to $5.2 million. This concludes the financial discussion. I'll now pass the call back to Kirsten. Speaker 100:15:32Thanks, Ed. With that financial context in mind, I'd like to share an update on the progress we are making under our Perform, Accelerate, Transform strategic framework. Our first pillar, Perform, is focused on strengthening and growing our core channel business. To achieve this, we are prioritizing higher margin opportunities with existing customers and channel partners, expanding gross margins by completing the transition to Thailand, and focusing on executing our new product development, or NPD, pipeline with discipline. Our goal is to consistently exceed customer expectations through exceptional support and reliable, on-time delivery. As we execute this strategy, we're building a solid operational foundation to ensure a competitive cost structure, adding key customer-facing roles, and putting in place the processes needed to drive NPD. This work is already showing results. Speaker 100:16:35Our commercial team is fully in place, and sales momentum is building, with a 33% increase in new opportunities in our sales pipeline this quarter compared to last quarter. Our commercial efforts are strongly supported by our new marketing team. Through their dedicated work this past quarter, we have successfully completed 22 marketing initiatives in collaboration with 10 strategic partners, including webinars, white papers, press releases, and joint trade shows, driving a remarkable 300% increase in requests for information from our website compared to the second quarter of last year. We believe this surge of customer interest is directly contributing to a stronger pipeline of new opportunities and will result in growing momentum for our business. As I mentioned earlier, we have completed all production in Singapore, and the site shutdown is progressing as planned. This transition to Thailand is key to expanding our gross margins. Speaker 100:17:40To support continuous improvement in our Thailand operations, we have launched CRM and MRP initiatives designed to automate our key processes, strengthen our operational foundation, and ensure the business is scalable. Moving to the second pillar of our PAT framework, Accelerate, we're advancing three specific growth initiatives to build our pipeline and drive long-term revenue and margin expansion: (1) expanding our BLE technology platform and multi-component MCL manufacturing capabilities, (2) targeting growth in three healthcare high-value applications, and (3) further driving growth in three consumer and logistics high-value applications. Beginning with BLE expansion, we are making meaningful progress. As we've discussed, BLE is a next-generation technology for IoT, providing significant benefits for applications that require real-time traceability or condition monitoring, which are challenging to address with traditional RFID technologies. Over the past several months, we have seen increasing interest in specialized BLE labels spanning logistics, pharmaceuticals, and asset tracking applications. Speaker 100:19:07These BLE-enabled solutions not only provide real-time visibility but also generate high-frequency data streams that can be used to power AI models, unlocking predictive insights, operational optimization, and automated decision-making. We have several significant BLE projects in our NPD pipeline, including the food logistics project I mentioned earlier and in an industrial track and trace application, all with the potential to improve business efficiency and reduce waste through the analytics they generate. The technical demands of BLE smart label design and manufacturing play to our engineering strengths and offer a clear competitive edge. Over the past six months, we invested in new MCL manufacturing equipment at our Munich, Germany, R&D center, expanded our engineering team with RF and software engineers, and strengthened product management capability dedicated to BLE innovation. In May, we introduced our new BLE smart labels at RFID Journal Live, marking an important step toward commercialization. Speaker 100:20:22We are collaborating with InPlay on a new portfolio of BLE-enabled battery-powered smart labels designed for high-value logistics applications. The upcoming smart label portfolio will be powered by InPlay's IN100 Nano Beacon, an ultra-low-power BLE system on a chip, and is expected to be available late this year. A full launch of this secure, scalable BLE portfolio is targeted for early 2026. We continue to work closely with Wiliot on the production of their next-generation IoT Pixels. Our teams have been actively collaborating to ensure we are prepared to support volume production for Wiliot's customers and partners in the coming months. Wiliot IoT Pixels are small, battery-free, Bluetooth sensors powered by harvesting ambient radio frequency energy, enabling continuous transmission of data like temperature, motion, and location for smart supply chain and IoT applications. We are highly encouraged by the momentum building in BLE and the increasing interest from the market. Speaker 100:21:38The second and third Accelerate initiatives focus on driving growth across six high-value, high-volume applications: three in healthcare, two in consumer, and one in logistics. To support these initiatives, we've expanded our business development and product management teams to drive market engagement through strategic partnerships and direct OEM relationships, and to ensure our product roadmaps are aligned with the specific requirements of each target application. Strategic partnerships are essential to the development and deployment of solutions in these key markets. While Identiv delivers a critical component of any IoT solution, our inlays, tags, and labels, customers also require robust, application-specific data analytics to generate meaningful insights. Over the past six months, we've prioritized building relationships that complement our technology and will continue pursuing partnerships where strong strategic alignment exists. Speaker 100:22:47In addition to Ifco, we also announced a strategic partnership with NaraVero, a global SaaS platform for digital product passports, or DPPs, and supply chain transparency. The collaboration comes in anticipation of new EU regulations requiring DPPs, which are scheduled to go into effect starting in 2027. A DPP is a digital record that contains detailed information about a product's material, origin, environmental impact, and life cycle, enabling greater transparency and sustainability across the supply chain. By combining Identiv's NFC inlays for dynamic product data with NaraVero's robust data management platform, this collaboration is intended to offer a comprehensive, integrated solution that streamlines DPP deployment for companies. Based on current projections and regulatory scope, we estimate the EU's DPP framework could apply to more than 3 billion products annually across categories such as apparel, electronics, and industrial goods. Speaker 100:24:08We believe this positions our collaboration with NaraVero as a high-volume opportunity, potentially enabling Identiv to deliver millions of NFC inlays per year as DPP regulations roll out over time across multiple product categories. We're also advancing collaborations launched earlier this year, including our strategic partnerships with Novanta for medical device applications and Tag & Track for pharmaceutical cold chain management. Last week in Chicago, we joined our partner, Novanta, for the ADLM Diagnostics Industry Trade Show. At their booth, we showcased our combined solution for advanced diagnostics, demonstrating how Identiv's RFID tags and Novanta's ThingMagic reader technology can be integrated into diagnostic test equipment. This innovative solution allows for the seamless monitoring of test samples and medical consumables, which helps ensure accurate test results and enhances patient safety. Speaker 100:25:14Our strategic partnership with Tag & Track combines our advanced BLE smart labels with Tag & Track's Relativity SaaS platform and is intended to offer pharma customers an integrated IoT solution that delivers item-level visibility and actionable insights for cold chain tracking within the pharmaceutical industry supply chain. In June, we co-hosted a keynote session with Tag & Track at the AIPIA and AWA Smart Packaging World Congress 2025 in Amsterdam, and we're enthusiastic about the potential opportunities in the pipeline. Turning now to the third part of our strategic framework, Transform. This pillar focuses on driving business expansion and capability growth through M&A. Our objective is to accelerate reaching EBITDA break-even by gaining scale, broadening our product portfolio, and enhancing our technical capabilities through strategic acquisition. We continue to evaluate, with our financial advisor Raymond James, our strategic alternatives. Speaker 100:26:30We have also strengthened our board and standing M&A committee with the addition of our newest board member, Nick Lopez. As a former public company CFO, Nick brings deep expertise in M&A and corporate finance, along with a strong shareholder-focused perspective that is already proving valuable to our strategic decision-making. Starting last quarter, we began reporting several metrics to monitor our progress across our strategic objectives. Throughout this year, we will be developing our baseline and will be refining our learning. Based on our findings, we intend to establish targets for these metrics in 2026. The new metrics are: (1) new sales pipeline and conversion rate. This metric tracks the number of opportunities with new customers or customers we have not sold to in over two years. At the end of Q2, we had 100 new opportunities in our pipeline. Speaker 100:27:35This is an increase from the 75 we had at the end of Q1. We have converted 14% of our new opportunities to sales in the first half of the year. NPD, new product development projects. This metric tracks the number of active NPD initiatives. These projects involve the development of entirely new RFID or BLE tags, inlays, or labels. As of the end of Q2, there were 19 active NPD projects, 12 customer-driven and seven internally driven. Four of the customer-driven projects target healthcare applications, and five utilize BLE technology, which represent the largest share of potential volume and steady-state revenue. (3) NPD project completion. This metric captures the number of NPD projects completed within the quarter. In Q2, we completed one internally driven project, a specialized new conductive adhesive that forms the critical connection between the chip and the antenna on the inlay. Speaker 100:28:46Finally, I would like to provide an update on our corporate governance. At the 2025 annual meeting held on June 10, stockholders approved the proposal to amend the company's charter to declassify the board. Therefore, the Class 2 director nominees were re-elected for one-year terms, and the board's classified structure will end at the end of 2026's annual meeting of stockholders, at which time all nominees for election as director will stand for one-year terms. As a reminder, the board previously announced plans to declassify its structure as part of its ongoing corporate governance review, which aims to better align the company's governance with best practices and enhance accountability to shareholders. In closing, while we expect the global macroeconomic uncertainty to continue, Identiv's value proposition remains strong and consistent. The long-term secular trends that are driving demand for RFID and BLE-enabled solutions remain solid. Speaker 100:29:59As a focused, pure-play IoT solutions provider, we believe we have the right team in place to execute our PAT strategic framework. By reinforcing our core channel strengths, expanding through new strategic partnerships and innovative product development, and working expeditiously through our Transform process with our financial advisor, we believe we can create value for all of our stakeholders. With that, I'd like to open the call for your questions. Operator, please open the question queue. Speaker 300:30:37Certainly. Everyone, at this time we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your headset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone. Your first question is coming from Jaeson Schmidt from Lake Street. Your line is live. Operator00:31:08Yeah, thanks for taking my questions. I just want to start with your announcement this week and thinking about this sort of opportunity in the grocery space, understanding that it's pilot testing here in 2025 and then full-scale deployment in 2026. Can you help us get a sense of the size of this opportunity longer term and when it can be impactful to the model? Speaker 100:31:34We're really excited and pleased about this partnership, and it is a significant potential volume opportunity for us. Ifco, they have over 400 million plastic containers that they ultimately want to get tagged. The goal is to tag all of them over the next four to five years. There's an ongoing opportunity because there's roughly 10% or more of those plastic containers that need to get replenished every single year. Excited about the opportunity. It is still very much an active development program. The goal is to be able to launch mass production in 2026. There is always a little bit of uncertainty when you're doing a development program. It is a very innovative product. It's using a next-generation chip. There's some real interesting innovation related to the manufacturing process. All that still is being developed, but the goal will be to start mass production. Operator00:32:37Gotcha. Just curious if you could talk about sort of order patterns so far here in the first six weeks of the quarter. Speaker 100:32:47Sure. Are you saying specifically for the third quarter? Operator00:32:52Yes. Speaker 100:32:54I think the order patterns seem to be on track with the guidance that we have provided. Operator00:33:05Gotcha. Last one for me, I'll jump back into queue. How should we think about gross margin? I know there were some dynamics impacting it in Q2, but looking here in Q3 and Q4, how should we think about sort of the general level? Speaker 100:33:19Yeah, definitely, and Ed can weigh in on this as well, but we definitely, in the first half of the year, were significantly impacted in our gross margin with our dual manufacturing sites, both Thailand and Singapore, and also just some additional transition costs that we had in terms of doubling up with training and so on and so forth. We were really happy to hit our goal or our milestone of completing production in Singapore in Q2, and that has been achieved. That is done. At this point, we have a very small skeleton crew that remains to really support the shutdown. We have to pack up the final equipment and ship it off, and we have to shut down the site. We definitely expect to see a benefit for sure in the second half as we close down the site. Maybe add any other color? Speaker 200:34:13I would agree with that. With the closing of production in Singapore, we should definitely see a positive impact of margin as we go into Q3 as well as Q4. Operator00:34:32Okay, perfect. Thanks a lot, guys. Speaker 100:34:35Thank you. Speaker 300:34:38Thank you. Once again, everyone, if you have any questions or comments, please press star, then one on your phone. Please hold while we poll for questions. Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I'll now hand the conference back to CEO Kirsten Newquist for closing remarks. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:35:01Thanks, operator, and thank you all again for joining us today. We appreciate the continued support of our customers, partners, shareholders, and employees. In terms of investor outreach, we'll be attending the B. Riley CMC conference in New York on Wednesday, September 10, and Lake Street will be hosting a virtual NDR on Tuesday, September 16. Thank you again for joining us this afternoon and evening, and have a nice night. Bye-bye. Speaker 300:35:34Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Identiv Earnings HeadlinesOuster (NASDAQ:OUST) and Identiv (NASDAQ:INVE) Critical AnalysisOctober 4 at 2:14 PM | americanbankingnews.comSMC (OTCMKTS:SMCAY) versus Identiv (NASDAQ:INVE) Head-To-Head ReviewOctober 4 at 6:14 AM | americanbankingnews.comYour book is insideThe "Sucker's Bet" Most New Options Traders Fall For Most people who try options lose money the same way. They don't know the rules. They don't know what to avoid. And they hand their account to Wall Street on a silver platter. Normally $29.97. 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Its solutions have historically combined hardware, software and embedded technologies to help organizations authenticate people and devices, secure physical and digital access, and connect products through the Internet of Things. The company’s product portfolio has included radio-frequency identification (RFID) and near-field communication (NFC) inlays and transponders, smart cards, secure credentials, readers, access-control systems and identity-management solutions. These products have been used in applications such as secure access, authentication, logistics, healthcare, transportation, government identification and connected consumer products. Identiv has served customers and business partners internationally, with operations and commercial relationships spanning North America, Europe and Asia. 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There are 4 speakers on the call. Speaker 300:00:00Good afternoon and welcome to Identiv's presentation of its second quarter 2025 earnings call. My name is Matthew, and I'll be your operator this afternoon. Joining us for today's presentation are the company's CEO, Kirsten Newquist, and CFO, Ed Kirnbauer. Following management's remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, please note that during the call, management may be making references to non-GAAP financial measures for guidance, including non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP gross profit, non-GAAP gross margin, and non-GAAP operating expenses. In addition, during the call, management will be making forward-looking statements. Any statement that refers to expectations, projections, or other characteristics of future events, including future financial results, future business and marketing conditions and opportunities, strategic partnerships and collaborations, and any related benefits and attributes in future plans, strategies, opportunities, and goals is a forward-looking statement. Speaker 300:01:02Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward-looking statements. For more information, please refer to the risk factors described in the documents filed from time to time with the SEC, including the company's latest annual report on Form 10-K, as well as our second quarter 10-Q once filed. Identiv assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to CEO Kirsten Newquist for her comments. Ms. Newquist, please proceed. Speaker 100:01:33Thanks, operator, and thank you all for joining our Q2 2025 earnings call. Before we begin, I'm very pleased to announce that Ed Kirnbauer has been officially appointed Chief Financial Officer by the Identiv Board of Directors. Ed has been serving as Acting CFO since last month, and today's announcement marks his permanent transition into the role. Ed has been with Identiv since 2015, most recently serving as our Global Corporate Controller. He also stepped in as Interim CFO in late 2021. Prior to joining Identiv, Ed held senior finance positions in the technology and manufacturing sectors and began his career at KPMG. We're excited to welcome him into this leadership position as he continues to bring deep expertise and steady guidance to our finance organization. Speaker 100:02:34Now turning to our second quarter business update, we continue to see macro trends driving strong demand for RFID and next-generation technologies like BLE, even amidst ongoing global market volatility. Businesses are seeking deeper intelligence into their operations and customer engagement to strengthen their competitive position and better differentiate their offerings. Identiv is enabling that deeper intelligence as we help our customers add digital identities to physical products through RFID. This increased demand is being accelerated by several key factors: the rapid expansion of IoT-connected devices, evolving regulatory landscapes, rising anti-counterfeiting pressures, and a growing global emphasis on sustainability. RFID and related technologies generate the real-world data needed to power digital transformation and, increasingly, AI. As businesses adopt AI to improve forecasting, logistics, and operations, they need accurate, real-time data from the physical world. Our products serve as a critical bridge, turning physical items into data-generating assets. Speaker 100:03:56Identiv is helping to lead this transformation. Our specialized IoT inlay, tags, and labels provide digital IDs that solve real-world challenges across sectors, from cold chain logistics to smart packaging to healthcare and consumer electronics. Our devices enable real-time tracking, condition monitoring, compliance, security, and more engaging consumer experiences. Financially, our Q2 revenue was $5 million within our previously announced guidance. Our core channel business remains on track, though we are seeing increased competition, particularly within our standard product lines, where several competitors have recently expanded manufacturing capacity. We are also closely monitoring macroeconomic risks, particularly regarding U.S. trade with Thailand. On July 31, the White House announced a 19% tariff on imports from Thailand. This was generally seen as a positive for electronics manufacturers based in Thailand, as it is a significant reduction from the previously announced 36% rate and positions Thailand as a reliable manufacturing alternative to China. Speaker 100:05:19However, the requirements around the amount of Thailand-made components needed to obtain a Thailand certificate of origin are still a source of uncertainty, particularly with new U.S. measures aimed at preventing transshipment. As we noted on our May call, approximately a quarter of our business is exposed to U.S. import tariffs due to our manufacturing footprint in Thailand. We developed a responsible pass-through strategy to protect margins, and to date, all affected customers have agreed to absorb the additional costs. The potential indirect effect on customer demand, especially in more discretionary segments, is less clear. A key highlight this quarter: earlier this week, we announced a strategic partnership with grocery logistics leader Ifco to enhance traceability, efficiency, and sustainability across the fresh grocery supply chain. Speaker 100:06:20Ifco is the world's leading provider of reusable packaging solutions for grocery products, and we have been closely collaborating with the Ifco team for several months to develop and launch a BLE-enabled smart label that will enable real-time tracking and temperature monitoring of Ifco's extensive global pool of reusable packaging containers (RPCs). With over 400 million RPCs in circulation, the value expected to be provided by our smart label in reducing the waste of fresh produce is significant. The goal is to tag the entire pool of 400 million-plus RPCs over the next four to five years, representing a major volume opportunity. This initiative is a top strategic priority, as we are currently producing prototypes for pilot-scale runs and expect to begin mass production in 2026. Operationally, we achieved a major milestone in Q2 by completing the transfer of production from Singapore to our lower-cost facility in Thailand. Speaker 100:07:31All customers have been successfully requalified, and the Thailand team is progressing well toward full productivity by early next year. A small transition team remains in Singapore to manage the site closure and support continued training in Thailand. Strategically, we are now six months into executing our Perform, Accelerate, Transform (PAT) strategy. The key objectives of PAT are: (1) to strengthen and optimize the performance of our core channel business, (2) accelerate our growth through high-value applications, and (3) ultimately transform Identiv into a market leader of specialty IoT solutions. We've made measurable progress across all three pillars this quarter, and I will provide more detail after end reviews of financials. In closing, despite a challenging macro backdrop, we believe our customers clearly see the value Identiv provides. Our specialized IoT tags, inlays, and labels are not only enabling digital transformation, but are solving real-world industry challenges. Speaker 100:08:48These long-term trends not only remain intact but, in many ways, are accelerating. As a focused, pure-play IoT solutions company, we are executing our PAT strategy with discipline, and we believe this positions us well for sustainable long-term growth. Ed, over to you. Speaker 200:09:11Thanks, Kirsten. Having been with Identiv for nearly 10 years, I'm excited to move into the CFO role at this transformative time in our company's history and look forward to meeting with the investment community in the upcoming months. In the second quarter of 2025, we delivered $5.0 million in revenue, which was within our previously announced guidance range, compared to $6.7 million in Q2 2024. This year-over-year decrease was due to lower sales of RFID transponder products as we continue to exit lower margin business and reduce sales to our largest customer, who is working through inventory they built up in 2024 in anticipation of transitioning production to Thailand. Second quarter GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin was -9.4% and -0.8%, respectively, compared to GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin of 9.1% and 14.6%, respectively, in Q2 2024. Speaker 200:10:18Factors impacting the decrease in gross margin included incremental costs related to the transition of production to Thailand and the dual manufacturing sites required during that transition, as well as decreased utilization due to lower year-over-year revenues. In addition, we recorded adjustments, which included approximately $0.6 million associated with obsolete inventory at our Singapore facility. As Kirsten mentioned, we have completed production of RFID devices in Singapore and requalified our customers in our Thailand production facility. Facility shutdown activities in Singapore are progressing as planned and are expected to be substantially completed by year-end. GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter of 2025, including research and development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses, totaled $5.9 million and $4.5 million, respectively, as compared to $7.3 million and $4.7 million, respectively, in Q2 2024. Speaker 200:11:26The year-over-year decrease in GAAP operating expenses was driven primarily by a reduction in one-time strategic review-related costs. The decrease in non-GAAP operating expenses reflects management's targeted resource allocation to support the company's organic growth initiatives, as outlined in the PAT strategic framework. Second quarter GAAP loss from continuing operations was $6.0 million or $0.26 per basic and diluted share, compared to GAAP net loss from continuing operations of $6.9 million or $0.31 per basic and diluted share in the second quarter of 2024. This decrease in net loss was primarily due to strategic review-related costs of $1.6 million incurred in the second quarter of 2024 that did not occur in the second quarter of 2025, and unrealized foreign currency losses of $0.9 million, partially offset by interest income of $1.3 million. Speaker 200:12:29Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss for Q2 2025 was $4.6 million, compared to $3.7 million in the second quarter of 2024. The decrease was primarily due to Thailand transition costs and adjustments for obsolete inventory at our Singapore production facility. In the appendix of today's presentation, we have provided a full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial information, which is also included in our earnings release. Moving now to the balance sheet, we exited Q2 2025 with $129.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. In the second quarter of 2025, we used $3 million in cash. This brings our total net operating cash used for the nine months following September 30, 2024, to $10.3 million. Previously, we expected net operating cash used for the 12-month period following September 30, 2024, to be in the range of $14 million to $16 million. Speaker 200:13:35Given our cash usage through Q2 2025 and current expectations for Q3, we are revising this range to $13 million to $15 million for the period ending September 30, 2025. Our working capital exiting Q2 was $137.5 million. Our balance sheet position remains strong, enabling us to pursue our organic and inorganic growth initiatives within the PAT strategic framework. In our 10-Q filing, we will be providing a full reconciliation of the year-to-date cash flows. For completeness, we have included the full balance sheet in the appendix of today's earnings release. Lastly, our financial outlook. We're continuing to monitor macroeconomic risks, particularly those related to U.S. trade with Thailand, as Kirsten mentioned. We're also looking at any indirect impacts these risks could have on customer demand and project timelines. Speaker 200:14:38In addition to these risks, we are also mindful of the ongoing competitive pressures on our standard product lines, which have been impacted by increased manufacturing capacity from some of our key competitors. This is causing some headwinds in the shorter term with standard product opportunities. As the macroeconomic environment evolves and we gain more visibility, we're prepared for a variety of possible outcomes. As we continue to exit lower margin business, we anticipate our largest customer will continue to reduce their inventory position. Based on this outlook, as of today's call for Q3 2025, we currently expect net revenue in the range of $4.8 million to $5.2 million. This concludes the financial discussion. I'll now pass the call back to Kirsten. Speaker 100:15:32Thanks, Ed. With that financial context in mind, I'd like to share an update on the progress we are making under our Perform, Accelerate, Transform strategic framework. Our first pillar, Perform, is focused on strengthening and growing our core channel business. To achieve this, we are prioritizing higher margin opportunities with existing customers and channel partners, expanding gross margins by completing the transition to Thailand, and focusing on executing our new product development, or NPD, pipeline with discipline. Our goal is to consistently exceed customer expectations through exceptional support and reliable, on-time delivery. As we execute this strategy, we're building a solid operational foundation to ensure a competitive cost structure, adding key customer-facing roles, and putting in place the processes needed to drive NPD. This work is already showing results. Speaker 100:16:35Our commercial team is fully in place, and sales momentum is building, with a 33% increase in new opportunities in our sales pipeline this quarter compared to last quarter. Our commercial efforts are strongly supported by our new marketing team. Through their dedicated work this past quarter, we have successfully completed 22 marketing initiatives in collaboration with 10 strategic partners, including webinars, white papers, press releases, and joint trade shows, driving a remarkable 300% increase in requests for information from our website compared to the second quarter of last year. We believe this surge of customer interest is directly contributing to a stronger pipeline of new opportunities and will result in growing momentum for our business. As I mentioned earlier, we have completed all production in Singapore, and the site shutdown is progressing as planned. This transition to Thailand is key to expanding our gross margins. Speaker 100:17:40To support continuous improvement in our Thailand operations, we have launched CRM and MRP initiatives designed to automate our key processes, strengthen our operational foundation, and ensure the business is scalable. Moving to the second pillar of our PAT framework, Accelerate, we're advancing three specific growth initiatives to build our pipeline and drive long-term revenue and margin expansion: (1) expanding our BLE technology platform and multi-component MCL manufacturing capabilities, (2) targeting growth in three healthcare high-value applications, and (3) further driving growth in three consumer and logistics high-value applications. Beginning with BLE expansion, we are making meaningful progress. As we've discussed, BLE is a next-generation technology for IoT, providing significant benefits for applications that require real-time traceability or condition monitoring, which are challenging to address with traditional RFID technologies. Over the past several months, we have seen increasing interest in specialized BLE labels spanning logistics, pharmaceuticals, and asset tracking applications. Speaker 100:19:07These BLE-enabled solutions not only provide real-time visibility but also generate high-frequency data streams that can be used to power AI models, unlocking predictive insights, operational optimization, and automated decision-making. We have several significant BLE projects in our NPD pipeline, including the food logistics project I mentioned earlier and in an industrial track and trace application, all with the potential to improve business efficiency and reduce waste through the analytics they generate. The technical demands of BLE smart label design and manufacturing play to our engineering strengths and offer a clear competitive edge. Over the past six months, we invested in new MCL manufacturing equipment at our Munich, Germany, R&D center, expanded our engineering team with RF and software engineers, and strengthened product management capability dedicated to BLE innovation. In May, we introduced our new BLE smart labels at RFID Journal Live, marking an important step toward commercialization. Speaker 100:20:22We are collaborating with InPlay on a new portfolio of BLE-enabled battery-powered smart labels designed for high-value logistics applications. The upcoming smart label portfolio will be powered by InPlay's IN100 Nano Beacon, an ultra-low-power BLE system on a chip, and is expected to be available late this year. A full launch of this secure, scalable BLE portfolio is targeted for early 2026. We continue to work closely with Wiliot on the production of their next-generation IoT Pixels. Our teams have been actively collaborating to ensure we are prepared to support volume production for Wiliot's customers and partners in the coming months. Wiliot IoT Pixels are small, battery-free, Bluetooth sensors powered by harvesting ambient radio frequency energy, enabling continuous transmission of data like temperature, motion, and location for smart supply chain and IoT applications. We are highly encouraged by the momentum building in BLE and the increasing interest from the market. Speaker 100:21:38The second and third Accelerate initiatives focus on driving growth across six high-value, high-volume applications: three in healthcare, two in consumer, and one in logistics. To support these initiatives, we've expanded our business development and product management teams to drive market engagement through strategic partnerships and direct OEM relationships, and to ensure our product roadmaps are aligned with the specific requirements of each target application. Strategic partnerships are essential to the development and deployment of solutions in these key markets. While Identiv delivers a critical component of any IoT solution, our inlays, tags, and labels, customers also require robust, application-specific data analytics to generate meaningful insights. Over the past six months, we've prioritized building relationships that complement our technology and will continue pursuing partnerships where strong strategic alignment exists. Speaker 100:22:47In addition to Ifco, we also announced a strategic partnership with NaraVero, a global SaaS platform for digital product passports, or DPPs, and supply chain transparency. The collaboration comes in anticipation of new EU regulations requiring DPPs, which are scheduled to go into effect starting in 2027. A DPP is a digital record that contains detailed information about a product's material, origin, environmental impact, and life cycle, enabling greater transparency and sustainability across the supply chain. By combining Identiv's NFC inlays for dynamic product data with NaraVero's robust data management platform, this collaboration is intended to offer a comprehensive, integrated solution that streamlines DPP deployment for companies. Based on current projections and regulatory scope, we estimate the EU's DPP framework could apply to more than 3 billion products annually across categories such as apparel, electronics, and industrial goods. Speaker 100:24:08We believe this positions our collaboration with NaraVero as a high-volume opportunity, potentially enabling Identiv to deliver millions of NFC inlays per year as DPP regulations roll out over time across multiple product categories. We're also advancing collaborations launched earlier this year, including our strategic partnerships with Novanta for medical device applications and Tag & Track for pharmaceutical cold chain management. Last week in Chicago, we joined our partner, Novanta, for the ADLM Diagnostics Industry Trade Show. At their booth, we showcased our combined solution for advanced diagnostics, demonstrating how Identiv's RFID tags and Novanta's ThingMagic reader technology can be integrated into diagnostic test equipment. This innovative solution allows for the seamless monitoring of test samples and medical consumables, which helps ensure accurate test results and enhances patient safety. Speaker 100:25:14Our strategic partnership with Tag & Track combines our advanced BLE smart labels with Tag & Track's Relativity SaaS platform and is intended to offer pharma customers an integrated IoT solution that delivers item-level visibility and actionable insights for cold chain tracking within the pharmaceutical industry supply chain. In June, we co-hosted a keynote session with Tag & Track at the AIPIA and AWA Smart Packaging World Congress 2025 in Amsterdam, and we're enthusiastic about the potential opportunities in the pipeline. Turning now to the third part of our strategic framework, Transform. This pillar focuses on driving business expansion and capability growth through M&A. Our objective is to accelerate reaching EBITDA break-even by gaining scale, broadening our product portfolio, and enhancing our technical capabilities through strategic acquisition. We continue to evaluate, with our financial advisor Raymond James, our strategic alternatives. Speaker 100:26:30We have also strengthened our board and standing M&A committee with the addition of our newest board member, Nick Lopez. As a former public company CFO, Nick brings deep expertise in M&A and corporate finance, along with a strong shareholder-focused perspective that is already proving valuable to our strategic decision-making. Starting last quarter, we began reporting several metrics to monitor our progress across our strategic objectives. Throughout this year, we will be developing our baseline and will be refining our learning. Based on our findings, we intend to establish targets for these metrics in 2026. The new metrics are: (1) new sales pipeline and conversion rate. This metric tracks the number of opportunities with new customers or customers we have not sold to in over two years. At the end of Q2, we had 100 new opportunities in our pipeline. Speaker 100:27:35This is an increase from the 75 we had at the end of Q1. We have converted 14% of our new opportunities to sales in the first half of the year. NPD, new product development projects. This metric tracks the number of active NPD initiatives. These projects involve the development of entirely new RFID or BLE tags, inlays, or labels. As of the end of Q2, there were 19 active NPD projects, 12 customer-driven and seven internally driven. Four of the customer-driven projects target healthcare applications, and five utilize BLE technology, which represent the largest share of potential volume and steady-state revenue. (3) NPD project completion. This metric captures the number of NPD projects completed within the quarter. In Q2, we completed one internally driven project, a specialized new conductive adhesive that forms the critical connection between the chip and the antenna on the inlay. Speaker 100:28:46Finally, I would like to provide an update on our corporate governance. At the 2025 annual meeting held on June 10, stockholders approved the proposal to amend the company's charter to declassify the board. Therefore, the Class 2 director nominees were re-elected for one-year terms, and the board's classified structure will end at the end of 2026's annual meeting of stockholders, at which time all nominees for election as director will stand for one-year terms. As a reminder, the board previously announced plans to declassify its structure as part of its ongoing corporate governance review, which aims to better align the company's governance with best practices and enhance accountability to shareholders. In closing, while we expect the global macroeconomic uncertainty to continue, Identiv's value proposition remains strong and consistent. The long-term secular trends that are driving demand for RFID and BLE-enabled solutions remain solid. Speaker 100:29:59As a focused, pure-play IoT solutions provider, we believe we have the right team in place to execute our PAT strategic framework. By reinforcing our core channel strengths, expanding through new strategic partnerships and innovative product development, and working expeditiously through our Transform process with our financial advisor, we believe we can create value for all of our stakeholders. With that, I'd like to open the call for your questions. Operator, please open the question queue. Speaker 300:30:37Certainly. Everyone, at this time we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your headset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone. Your first question is coming from Jaeson Schmidt from Lake Street. Your line is live. Operator00:31:08Yeah, thanks for taking my questions. I just want to start with your announcement this week and thinking about this sort of opportunity in the grocery space, understanding that it's pilot testing here in 2025 and then full-scale deployment in 2026. Can you help us get a sense of the size of this opportunity longer term and when it can be impactful to the model? Speaker 100:31:34We're really excited and pleased about this partnership, and it is a significant potential volume opportunity for us. Ifco, they have over 400 million plastic containers that they ultimately want to get tagged. The goal is to tag all of them over the next four to five years. There's an ongoing opportunity because there's roughly 10% or more of those plastic containers that need to get replenished every single year. Excited about the opportunity. It is still very much an active development program. The goal is to be able to launch mass production in 2026. There is always a little bit of uncertainty when you're doing a development program. It is a very innovative product. It's using a next-generation chip. There's some real interesting innovation related to the manufacturing process. All that still is being developed, but the goal will be to start mass production. Operator00:32:37Gotcha. Just curious if you could talk about sort of order patterns so far here in the first six weeks of the quarter. Speaker 100:32:47Sure. Are you saying specifically for the third quarter? Operator00:32:52Yes. Speaker 100:32:54I think the order patterns seem to be on track with the guidance that we have provided. Operator00:33:05Gotcha. Last one for me, I'll jump back into queue. How should we think about gross margin? I know there were some dynamics impacting it in Q2, but looking here in Q3 and Q4, how should we think about sort of the general level? Speaker 100:33:19Yeah, definitely, and Ed can weigh in on this as well, but we definitely, in the first half of the year, were significantly impacted in our gross margin with our dual manufacturing sites, both Thailand and Singapore, and also just some additional transition costs that we had in terms of doubling up with training and so on and so forth. We were really happy to hit our goal or our milestone of completing production in Singapore in Q2, and that has been achieved. That is done. At this point, we have a very small skeleton crew that remains to really support the shutdown. We have to pack up the final equipment and ship it off, and we have to shut down the site. We definitely expect to see a benefit for sure in the second half as we close down the site. Maybe add any other color? Speaker 200:34:13I would agree with that. With the closing of production in Singapore, we should definitely see a positive impact of margin as we go into Q3 as well as Q4. Operator00:34:32Okay, perfect. Thanks a lot, guys. Speaker 100:34:35Thank you. Speaker 300:34:38Thank you. Once again, everyone, if you have any questions or comments, please press star, then one on your phone. Please hold while we poll for questions. Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I'll now hand the conference back to CEO Kirsten Newquist for closing remarks. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:35:01Thanks, operator, and thank you all again for joining us today. We appreciate the continued support of our customers, partners, shareholders, and employees. In terms of investor outreach, we'll be attending the B. Riley CMC conference in New York on Wednesday, September 10, and Lake Street will be hosting a virtual NDR on Tuesday, September 16. Thank you again for joining us this afternoon and evening, and have a nice night. Bye-bye. Speaker 300:35:34Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by