Xerox Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Negative Sentiment: Xerox lowered 2026 adjusted operating income guidance to $450–$475 million from $555–$605 million and cut free cash flow guidance to $50–$100 million from approximately $250 million. The company cited higher memory, oil and tariff-related costs, unfavorable equipment mix, weaker print-market demand and IT Solutions underperformance.
  • Negative Sentiment: The board suspended common and preferred dividends, preserving approximately $28 million in annual cash for liquidity and debt reduction. Year-end gross leverage is now expected at about 5.6x, versus the prior target of below 5x, extending the timeline for deleveraging.
  • Positive Sentiment: Print trends improved, with Q3 equipment revenue rising 3% organically—the first year-over-year growth in more than three years—and installs increasing 9%. Entry and production equipment growth offset mid-range declines, leading management to believe Xerox gained market share.
  • Negative Sentiment: IT Solutions revenue declined 17% year over year and segment margin fell to 4.4%, as slower sales-force ramp-up, delayed customer decisions and tighter supplier terms reduced conversion. Management expects improvement in Q4 but acknowledged that the business requires further work.
  • Positive Sentiment: Xerox announced a debt exchange covering approximately $174 million of 2028 notes, reducing total debt by about $53 million and extending nearly one-third of those maturities to 2030. Management also highlighted roughly $100 million of incremental Lexmark synergies expected in 2027, alongside additional pricing and cost-reduction initiatives.
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Xerox Q3 2026
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Operator

Welcome to the Xerox Holdings Corporation third quarter 2026 earnings release conference call. After the presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask your questions at that time, please press star one one. At any time during this call, you can withdraw your question by pressing star one one again. At this time, I would like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Greg Stein, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Greg Stein
Greg Stein
SVP, Head of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Good morning, everyone. I am Greg Stein, Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations at Xerox Holdings Corporation. Welcome to the Xerox Holdings Corporation third quarter 2026 earnings release conference call hosted by Louis Pastor, Chief Executive Officer. He is joined by Chuck Butler, Chief Financial Officer. At the request of Xerox Holdings Corporation, today's conference call is being recorded. Other recording and/or rebroadcasting of this call are prohibited without the express permission of Xerox. During this call, Xerox executives will refer to slides that are available on the web at www.xerox.com/investor and will make comments that contain forward-looking statements, which by their nature address matters that are in the future and are uncertain. Actual future financial results may be materially different than those expressed herein. At this time, I would like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Pastor.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Good morning, and thank you for joining our Q3 2026 earnings call. I will start with the most important news. Today, we are lowering our full year adjusted operating income and free cash flow guidance, and our board has suspended our common and preferred dividends. These decisions reflect a quarter of two realities. The parts of the business we have rebuilt are performing. Print revenue trends are better, equipment revenue grew, and we expect industry data to show we gained share. But the parts exposed to the market and to input costs got worse, faster than we can offset this year. Let me begin with the progress. We advanced each of our three priorities, stabilize revenue, increase profitability, and reduce leverage in the quarter. Revenue of $1.87 billion, declined less than 5%, a 180 basis point pro forma sequential improvement.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Adjusted operating margin was 6.6%, up 330 basis points from a year ago. And we again improved our gross and net leverage ratios. Print is where the progress is most visible. Print and other revenue declined 3% compared with a 10% pro forma decline a year ago. The stronger pipeline we discussed in recent quarters is beginning to convert as equipment revenue grew 3% in Q3, led by double-digit growth in both entry and production, more than offsetting double-digit declines in mid-range. This was our first quarter of year-over-year organic equipment growth in more than three years. And for the first time since we began reporting them separately, entry equipment revenue exceeded mid-range, reflecting the market shift toward entry and the strength of the portfolio we gained with the Lexmark acquisition.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Production remains a bright spot and grew in the quarter, with installs up 13% and equipment revenue up 14%, even before the three new platforms we announced last month at PRINTING United enter the market next year. Together with our Xeikon partnership, which takes us into packaging and labels, we believe we are well-positioned to gain share and production. This is a roughly $9 billion growing market, and we are now entering its fastest-growing segments. Why are we lowering our outlook after a quarter of progress? Four factors are working against us. Rising input costs, the shift in our equipment mix, a weaker print market outlook, and underperformance in IT Solutions. Together, they are more than we can offset in Q4 alone. Let me take each of them in turn. First, input costs.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Last quarter, Chuck noted that if memory and oil prices continued to rise, they could put our profit guidance at risk. They have. We now expect a combined impact of approximately $60 million on this year's adjusted operating income from memory and oil, most of it in Q4, as higher cost inventory flows through cost of goods. To put this in perspective, coming into 2026, memory was about 2% of the cost of a machine. Today, it is 10%, and we expect it to reach 15% in 2027. We are also now seeing knock-on inflation in other electrical components that go into our machines. On the post-sale side, parts, freight, and tariff-affected costs are also rising faster than planned, pressuring service margins. At the same time, service labor doesn't come down as fast as service revenue because we need a certain density of technicians to cover a territory.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

When service revenue falls, most of that decline comes straight out of gross profit. That pressures post-sale margins, and it is why the service model, I will come back to later, is actually central to our long-term plan for workplace print. Second, mix. Entry is performing well, with installs up 16% and equipment revenue up 21%. Mid-range, by contrast, is declining faster than we expected, with installs down 20% and equipment revenue down 15%. This is consistent with an industry-wide shift from mid-range to entry. That matters because the economics of entry and mid-range are very different. Entry devices are unprofitable at the hardware level, and the margin gap between an entry device and a mid-range device can exceed 30 points. We make up that profit difference after the sale through supplies and service, where entry margins are higher.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Over the life of the device, entry and mid-range profitability is about the same. But in the near term, the shift weighs meaningfully on profit. With Q4 our largest equipment quarter, that impact is magnified. Third, the market outlook. Based on IDC data, we held share in the first half of 2026, and with equipment revenue up 3% and installs up 9% in Q3, we are confident we gained share during the quarter. But the market itself has weakened. The second half typically brings a meaningful seasonal lift. IDC shows second half unit growth over the first half of about 11% in 2024 and 7% in 2025. For 2026, IDC now forecasts just over 1%, as higher costs, geopolitical uncertainty, and competing IT priorities weigh on demand.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

While we are holding revenue guidance at approximately $7.6 billion and are positioning ourselves to grow share, we will be doing so in a softer market with lower volumes weighing on profit. Fourth, IT Solutions. After strong performance following the November 2024 acquisition of ITsavvy, with pro forma billings up 12% in 2025 and 21% in Q1, growth slowed. Last quarter, I attributed this partly to rebuilding our sales force. The benefits of that rebuild are taking longer than expected. The funnel is there, but conversion has not improved yet. Tighter supplier and distributor terms specific to IT Solutions have also added friction. With backlog up 24% and a larger Q4 pipeline, we expect a better year-over-year comparison in Q4 than in Q3, but we have work to do. What has not changed is the quality of the platform.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

A full lifecycle offering from procurement through managed services, a deep bench of engineers, strong partnerships with Microsoft and leading OEMs, and a scalable, highly automated delivery model. The demand is there, and we are focused on converting it. Here is what we are doing about all of this. Let me separate our actions for the fourth quarter from the reset of our cost and margin structure for 2027 and beyond. In the fourth quarter, we have already moved quickly to a weekly deal-by-deal review of the business. Our late-stage pipeline is still up meaningfully, so our focus is conversion and install timing. Every late-stage opportunity now carries a committed install date, with sales, supply chain, and service delivery all working from the same list.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

We have also frozen discretionary spending, including non-essential travel and hiring outside revenue-generating roles. These actions are about delivering the guidance we are giving you today.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

For 2027, we are acting on three fronts. First, price. Beginning in the first quarter, we are implementing pricing actions across our portfolio, segmented by product and market, and tightening placement discipline so that entry placements meet higher payback thresholds on their lifetime economics. Because part of our post-sale revenue is under multi-year contracts that reprice only at renewal, pricing will only offset some of next year's cost increase, not all of it, and the benefit builds through the year. Second, cost.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

The Lexmark Synergy program remains on track. On top of it, we are taking further actions that began this month and run through next year, including further simplifying our organization and management structure, expanding the use of our global capability centers, which now represent about 15% of our workforce, up from 11% at the start of the year, consolidating distribution centers and real estate, and renegotiating key vendor contracts.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

We will size the full program when we provide our 2027 outlook next quarter. Third, IT Solutions. We are aligning the cost base with the current run rate, including through our ITaaS and INOC autonomous delivery platforms and expanding agentic solutions across the business. That builds scale and operating leverage into the platform. We are also implementing additional measures to improve our competitiveness on larger deals. We are also acting on the balance sheet, because reducing debt remains our top capital allocation priority. Our board has suspended our common and preferred dividends effective immediately, preserving approximately $28 million a year of cash to strengthen our liquidity and support deleveraging.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Today, we announced an exchange of approximately $174 million of our 2028 senior notes for 2030 first-lien notes and equity at the equivalent of 75 cents on the dollar, reducing our overall debt by $53 million and extending nearly a third of our 2028 maturities by two years. Together with the debt we have already retired this year at a discount, these actions keep us on a path to lower leverage over time. Beyond these near-term actions, our biggest long-term profit opportunity is service, which is our largest cost base. It was a central theme at our partner summit in Nashville earlier this month, our biggest to date, with more than 500 partners from 70 countries. In workplace print, every page has three costs: equipment, supplies, and service. The first two are physical products, so there will always be a cost. Service is different.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Every service call starts with a machine breaking down, and that is something we can engineer out. Our goal is to drive the cost of service disruption towards zero, and we believe we are best positioned in the industry to do so. That is because we now own the full technology stack. The 9-Series, for example, has about 500 fewer parts than the externally sourced generation it replaces, with a single access door and one paper path, so there is less to fail. Because we design the devices, we decide where the sensors in the device actually go and what data they capture, something you cannot bolt on later. Across our connected fleet, AI can now flag failures before they happen, and we have made remote resolution our default, both in our contracts and in how we hold every region accountable.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Today, a little over half of the service calls that reach our client experience center are resolved without sending a technician, and our target is 70%. That means more uptime for customers, fewer truck rolls for partners, and a structurally lower cost to serve for Xerox. The opportunity is significant. We have nearly 9 million devices in the field, and our service maintenance and rentals business generates more than $3 billion of revenue a year, with a significant portion of the cost to deliver it addressable. Every device we bring onto this model lowers that cost, giving us more pricing flexibility while expanding our margins. We are already seeing proof points. The 9-Series has generated about 50% fewer service calls than the prior generation. Partners are telling us it is delivering on the reliability and remote resolution we promised.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

This shift won't happen overnight, but it will happen, and we believe no competitor relying on third-party engines can match it. Let me close with this. This is not the outlook we wanted to give you today, and I am not going to dress it up. Some of what we are facing originates outside of our control, like memory and oil. Some of it is ours to fix. In both cases, our job is the same: be clear about what happened, act quickly, and own the result. Memory, oil, and tariffs we can price for over time and increasingly design and source around. The shift toward entry and the cost of service are structural, and the actions I have described today are built to address them. We will provide our 2027 outlook on our fourth quarter call. Pricing, the cost program, and the service model are its building blocks.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

But they are set against input costs we expect to be a larger headwind next year than this year, a mix shift that will continue, and a challenging workplace print environment. At the same time, the foundation of this company is stronger than it was a year ago. Our print trends are improving. We now own the full technology stack. Our service model gives us a structural cost advantage that will build over time.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Production is growing, with new platforms coming online next year, and we continue to strengthen the balance sheet. We are resolute in our priorities: stabilize revenue, increase profitability, and reduce leverage. In the near term, our number one focus is disciplined execution, delivering the actions that help offset these headwinds, protecting cash, and continuing to reduce our debt. With that, I will turn it over to Chuck to walk through our financials and guidance in more detail.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Thanks, Louis. Good morning, everyone. Before we get into the details, a reminder that the Lexmark acquisition closed on July 1, 2025. So this is the first quarter in which both the current and prior year periods include Lexmark. As Louis noted, we advanced each of our three priorities in the quarter, but the outlook is more challenging. I will cover the quarter, then cash and the balance sheet, then the updated outlook and what it means for leverage. Q3 revenue of $1.87 billion fell less than 5% year-over-year on a reported and a constant currency basis, compared to a 7% pro forma decline last quarter. Q3 marked the first quarter of year-over-year equipment sales growth on an organic basis since Q2 2023. This is important because equipment sales are a leading indicator for the broader print business.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Turning to profitability, adjusted gross margin was 29.5%, up 60 basis points year-over-year. That includes $20 million of IP licensing income, which contributed about 70 basis points. Excluding licensing, gross margin was slightly down as transformation benefits and favorable supplies mix and pricing were more than offset by higher memory and oil prices, equipment mix, lower managed print volumes, and lower finance fees. The lower finance fees are an expected result of our move to a capital-light financing model. Adjusted operating margin was 6.6%, up 330 basis points year-over-year, driven by higher gross margin and lower operating expenses. Operating expenses were $73 million lower than last year, reflecting restructuring and integration savings, lower bad debt and marketing expense, and a lower bonus accrual reflecting our reduced 2026 outlook.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Non-financing interest expense was $93 million, up $13 million year-over-year, due mainly to higher net interest expense associated with the TPG JV financing. GAAP loss per share was $7.73, which includes a non-cash goodwill impairment charge of $959 million in the print and other reporting unit, reflecting a lower long-term forecast driven by current input cost and market conditions. It has no effect on cash, liquidity, or our debt covenants. Adjusted EPS of $0.02 reflects higher interest expense and a higher adjusted tax rate of 70%, which more than offset the improvements in operating income. As discussed on prior calls, the adjusted tax rate remains volatile because of the valuation allowance we carry against certain deferred tax assets. Let me review segment results. Starting with print and other, Q3 equipment revenue was $393 million, up 3% in reported and in constant currency.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Entry grew 21% and production grew 14%, more than offsetting a 15% decline in mid-range. Print and other post-sale revenue was $1.3 billion, down 5% as reported and down 4% in constant currency. The decline was mainly due to lower service, outsourcing, and financing income. Print and other adjusted gross margin was 30.6%, up 60 basis points, driven by transformation benefits, licensing income, and supplies pricing and mix. These factors were partially offset by higher input cost, equipment mix, and lower managed print volumes. Print and other segment margin was 8.1%, up 440 basis points, driven by higher gross margins, integration savings, and lower compensation, marketing, and bad debt expense. Turning to IT Solutions, revenue was $187 million, down 17% year-over-year, with products down 23% and services down 7%.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Gross billings, which better reflect customer activity because more of our transactions are now recorded on a net basis, were $226 million, down 14% in the quarter, but still up 1% year to date. The revenue decline reflects lower billings, a higher mix of net recorded transactions, and a lower deferred revenue balance against a strong prior year quarter. On profitability, gross profit was $35 million, reflecting a margin of 19.4%, down 40 basis points year-over-year, driven by lower volume, rebates, and mix. Segment profit was $8 million, reflecting a profit margin of 4.4%, down 370 basis points year-over-year on lower gross profit as well as investments in the sales organization. Moving to our cash flow and capital structure.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

For the quarter, operating cash flow was $30 million, compared to $116 million last year, reflecting higher adjusted net income, more than offset by lower proceeds from financing assets. Investing activity was a $24 million use of cash, compared to a use of $682 million a year ago, as the prior year quarter accounted for the Lexmark acquisition. Financing activity resulted in a $27 million use of cash, mainly reflecting $8 million of dividend payments and a $14 million repayment related to a tariff receivable monetization. Free cash flow was $7 million, down $81 million year-over-year, reflecting $131 million less cash from our shrinking finance receivables portfolio. Excluding cash generated from finance receivables, free cash flow improved approximately $50 million versus last year, driven by higher operating income. We ended the quarter with $530 million of cash equivalents, and restricted cash.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

That includes approximately $412 million of unrestricted cash, which, together with approximately $314 million of ABL borrowing base, net of LCs, gives us total liquidity of roughly $726 million. Restricted cash increased to $118 million, reflecting cash held for interest and amortization payments on the TPG joint venture and higher collateral requirements. From a liquidity perspective, this is partially offset by lower letters of credit outstanding under our ABL. Total debt was $4.2 billion. Approximately $1.3 billion supports our finance assets, with the remaining $2.9 billion of core debt attributable to the non-financing business. Gross and net leverage were 5.4x and 4.7x trailing 12-month EBITDA, down from 5.9x and 5.1x last quarter. Debt reduction remains our capital allocation priority, and our near-term maturities are manageable.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Following the $20 million of TPG JV-related payments we made earlier this month, we have less than $160 million of scheduled debt maturities through 2027. Our next significant maturity is August 2028. This morning, we announced an agreement with an ad hoc group of lenders to exchange approximately $174 million of August 2028 senior notes for first-lien senior secured notes due October 2030 at 69 cents on the dollar and common equity at 6 cents on the dollar. The transaction reduces our total debt principal by approximately $53 million. After the exchange, approximately $382 million of the August 2028 notes will remain outstanding, down from $750 million at the beginning of the year. As Louis noted, the board has also suspended the common and preferred dividends, preserving $28 million of cash annually.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

We are in compliance with all of our covenants, and we have sufficient liquidity to run the business and meet our obligations. Before I discuss guidance, let me spend a moment on Xerox Financial Services. XFS has long supported how we serve customers, providing financing that drives equipment sales, strengthens customer relationships, and supports post-sale revenue. A few years ago, we engaged external advisors to conduct a strategic review of XFS and evaluate a range of alternatives. That process concluded that the greatest value would come from retaining origination and customer relationships while partners fund the book. Since then, through forward flow and back book sales, we've reduced net finance receivables from about $3.1 billion in 2022 to approximately $1.2 billion today, accelerating cash realization and reducing the debt needed to support customer financing.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

As we've consistently said, we continue to look for ways to reduce receivables on our balance sheet and unlock cash for the business. Now for guidance. We are maintaining our full year revenue guidance of approximately $7.6 billion, while remaining mindful of the market dynamics Louis described. We now expect adjusted operating income of $450 million-$475 million, down from $555 million-$605 million previously. The change primarily reflects continued pressure from memory and oil prices, now an approximate $60 million headwind for the year, the mix shift from mid-range to entry, a weaker print market outlook, and lower IT Solutions performance. In addition, while tariff rates have come down, higher costs on tariff-affected inputs are keeping our ongoing tariff impact at approximately $90 million in 2026, similar to last year, but higher than we had forecasted.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

We now expect free cash flow of $50 million-$100 million, down from approximately $250 million for three reasons. First, lower adjusted operating income, which is roughly $100 million of the change. Second, we now expect $300 million of cash from finance receivable sales this year, down from $335 million. Third, the timing of the tariff refunds. We had assumed $80 million would come in this year, and we now expect about $30 million, with the remaining $50 million in 2027. As we discussed last quarter, we sold these refund receivables and already have the cash. When refunds are collected, they move from financing to operating cash flow, so this affects the timing of free cash flow, not our cash.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

The fourth quarter is seasonally our strongest cash quarter, and the range reflects the timing of year-end collections, a planned back book receivable sale, and a reduction in the inventory we built in Q3. Our updated guidance implies a year-end gross and net leverage of approximately 5.6x and 4.7x trailing 12-month EBITDA, respectively, roughly flat with Q3. That compares with our prior expectation of below five and four times. It remains well below the seven and six times at the end of Q1. Our long-term leverage targets haven't changed, but the timeline to reach them has extended, and we'll lay out our path when we provide our 2027 outlook. The updated leverage guidance includes the net benefit of the announced debt exchange and $12 million of warrant-related debt reduction, $8 million in Q3, and $4 million after quarter end.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

It does not assume any additional debt reduction from repurchases or warrant conversions for the remainder of the year, and it does not reflect savings from the dividend suspension, which began in Q1 2027. Before we open the line, let me put the cost actions Louis described in context. Our Lexmark integration synergies remain on track, and we expect them to deliver approximately $100 million of additional year-over-year savings in 2027. On top of that, we are launching an incremental cost program to simplify our organization and management structure, move more work into our global capability centers, consolidate distribution centers and real estate, and reduce procurement cost. We expect input cost to be a larger headwind in 2027 than in 2026. Together with the pricing actions that begin in the first quarter, these programs are designed to offset it.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

We will size both the headwind and the programs for you with our 2027 outlook on our fourth quarter call. To sum up, the actions within our control, including integration savings, transformation, and debt reduction, are being delivered, and you can see them in our operating expenses and our leverage trend. What moved against us was gross profit, input cost, mix, and a post-sale cost base that we are now resetting. We have sized the impact on 2026, and the actions to address it are underway. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for questions.

Operator

Certainly. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you do have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Alek Valero from Loop Capital. Your question please. Alek Valero, your line is open. Alek Valero from Loop Capital, your line is open. All right, we'll move on. Our first question then comes from the line of Joseph Cardoso from JPMorgan. Your question, please.

Mark Vartanian
Mark Vartanian
Analyst at JPMorgan

Hi. Good morning. This is Mark on for Joseph Cardoso. My first question is regarding some of the commentary around IT Solutions regarding tighter supplier and distributor terms. Could you just maybe expand a little bit around that and what that means for maybe the longer term free cash flow outlook?

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yep. Good morning, Mark. Thanks for joining the call and for the question. I think if you take a step back on the IT Solutions business, Q3 for us is a little bit of a tougher comparison year-over-year because Q3 last year had included two quite large K through 12 rollouts. But I would say beyond that comparison, some of the things that we've talked about is growth has been slower than we planned because our new sellers are ramping up more slowly than expected, and that's happening in a market where price increases, particularly in endpoints, are lengthening customer decisions. So you can see that decline primarily in product resale. Services were only down modestly. But with backlog up 24%, I would say we enter Q4 with a pretty strong position.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

But specific to your question, I would say the things that are impacting the business the most right now that we think we can outrun ultimately are getting this sort of reinvestment in the sales force really ramped. That's somewhat unique to us versus the market. Our credit profile, which is what you touched on with sort of vendor and supplier distributor terms, that's somewhat unique to us.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Overlaying it on a macro environment that is not unique to us. But together, I would say that those factors kind of make it take a little bit longer for these sellers to ramp. And that's just what we're seeing today. But like I said in the prepared comments, certainly doesn't impact our long-term view of the strength of this business, the opportunity with our existing install base, or frankly, the value that comes from the platform that we've built.

Mark Vartanian
Mark Vartanian
Analyst at JPMorgan

Got it. Thank you. I know that you guys said that you would provide more details on the 4Q call regarding efforts to kind of offset the input cost inflation headwind. I guess maybe if you could still go into a few more of the details regarding the various levers that you have and your degree of confidence, right, in normalizing for any incremental headwind that you get in 2027 from here on.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah, no, I appreciate the question, Mark, and we're right in the middle of that now. We know that based on the Lexmark Synergy program, we have approximately $100 million of additional year-over-year savings to come in 2027. On top of that, we're looking at incremental cost programs to simplify the organization, the management structure, how do we leverage our global capability centers more, what kind of pricing can we pass on to the end customer, look at our footprint and distribution and through real estate and reducing our procurement costs, and all these conversations are ongoing right now. The goal is we know we have to outrun the headwinds that are running at us. It's $60 million this year. That's for roughly half a year. That'll be a full year of impact next year.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Then some, and we know that we have to outpace those and put together those actions. How will it be received in the marketplace? We do see some movements in price as some of our competitors have passed some of these on. We'll continue to explore what that looks like. The market ultimately dictates what they're willing to accept in terms of price increases. But we'll be a fast mover on anything that we can and make sure that we cover any additional costs or do our best to cover any additional costs that we have.

Mark Vartanian
Mark Vartanian
Analyst at JPMorgan

Understood. Thank you.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Anything to add, Louis?

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ananda Baruah from Loop Capital. Your question please.

Ananda Baruah
Ananda Baruah
Analyst at Loop Capital

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question, and apologies for the confusion at the beginning of the call. I may have missed this, hopefully not. Louis, the exchange, I guess, as you look out at the future debt ladder, could you utilize exchange transactions in the future or something of the like? If you haven't made a remark, I may have missed it, but if you haven't made a remark about what that interplay could look like as you guys sort of look at it today, any context there would be helpful. I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah. Hey, Ananda. Thanks for the question. Look, I would say, we are always evaluating every opportunity that could be available to us to, in my sort of analogy that I've used in the past, lower the heights of the hurdles, right? We know we've been primarily focused on the 2028 maturity since it's coming up first. We entered the year, that was about $750 million, and now we've cut it effectively in half. That's good news. We're going to utilize every kind of tool in the toolkit to address the maturities that we have, both in 2028 and those that come after that. I wasn't clear, sorry, Ananda, on the second part of your question about the interplay. What specifically you were asking about?

Ananda Baruah
Ananda Baruah
Analyst at Loop Capital

Yeah, no, Louis, that answers it. Yeah, that answers it. The interplay remark was just sort of contextual as part of the question, but that totally answers it 100%.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Got it. Thank you.

Ananda Baruah
Ananda Baruah
Analyst at Loop Capital

Thanks. I guess on the print market dynamics, I guess my quick guess would be that lines of business are shifting budget over to AI because that seems to be happening, that budget shift. So maybe there's some non-CIO budget from LOBs that are shifting over. Do you have any sense of that? I guess the question there, Louis, is if there's something like that happening, so there's like a structural nature to what's going on, have you guys yet thought ahead anything you can share with us about sort of getting ahead of an incremental structural dynamic that may be, quite frankly, is kind of new this year, if this is a new normal-

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah.

Ananda Baruah
Ananda Baruah
Analyst at Loop Capital

for a while.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah, it's a great question, Ananda. I would say the observation that you're making about sort of the shift in technology budgets more and more towards AI and compute and software and agentic solutions associated with those things and away from hardware infrastructure, but particularly print, we are definitely seeing some of that. I think, overall, yes, there is a structural shift. I think our response to that structural shift is actually our approach to service. So this point that, look, there are three inputs-

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

to print. There's the cost of the equipment, there's the cost of the supplies, and there's the cost of service. The laws of physics prevent you from bringing the cost of the equipment or the cost of the supplies to zero. But the laws of physics do not prevent you from bringing the cost of service to zero. In order for us to take as much of the market share that exists out there that we can, that is the structural advantage we can create for ourselves. If we are differentiated on price and experience, because that allows us to differentiate on both, not just price, that is a winning combination for a market that, yes, is structurally challenged.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

If I can just add a little bit on top of that. Typically, the first place you'll see that, Ananda, is on the ESR side of things. We grew in the third quarter for the first time since 2023, which is encouraging. But to be candid with you, ESR is a really important metric for us to look at because it's an indicator of our install base and how our install base is moving. What's more important than what I saw in the prior period is are the printers that I've already placed still out there printing, and being serviced by us? So we monitor and manage our install base, as much as we can. That's really the metric we look at.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

If there's some slight ESR miss in the quarter, we can absorb that as long as the printers that we've already placed are still out there printing. We have this mix shift going on that we mentioned, from mid down to the entry, which actually-

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

provides benefit to some of those softening budgets, because it moves from the mid down to the low.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah. So just maybe the last thing, maybe just to build on Chuck's comments too is the barbell strategy that we have with respect to equipment to focus more on entry and production where there's more secular growth, even in a structurally challenged market, and less on mid. It does have this equipment margin headwind associated with it, but long-term profitability, it actually should enhance.

Ananda Baruah
Ananda Baruah
Analyst at Loop Capital

Helpful context. Really appreciate it, guys. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Asiya Merchant from Citigroup. Your question please.

Asiya Merchant
Asiya Merchant
Analyst at Citigroup

Oh, great. Thanks for taking my call. A couple of quick ones from me. Just on the print dynamics. Louis, you talked about lower volumes weighing on profitability, will be gaining share. Just what do you think the competitive response is, and how much of that's kind of factored into your outlook for margins here in the fourth quarter? Then obviously you'll guide for 2027, but how should we think about the competitive dynamics in response to just the mix shift, which I'm sure the rest of the industry is probably also facing?

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah. It's a great question. Look, this is a highly competitive market. Despite the structural challenges that print faces, you have effectively 10, call it, highly global scaled competitors. Not everybody makes all of their own equipment and necessarily controls their full cost or technology stack, and so people have different levers to compete differently in the markets in which they're strong, and not everybody's strong every region across the globe or every segment of the market. We feel pretty good about the portfolio that we have in terms of on a product basis, right, as well as our strength in the markets and the reach that we have with our channel partners and our direct sales force. So our coverage is good. Everybody's dealing with the same headwinds.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

The strategies of the past where people were, I think, trying to just simply price cut their way to share gains is more strained, not just for us. That wasn't necessarily our strategy, but I think it is more straining for some of our competitors in the market, because they too are trying to pass along some of these costs that they're incurring. So it's factored into our guidance. But certainly we have scenario-based planning depending on how the sort of the largest movers in the market can change the pricing dynamics. So far we've seen, I think, fairly rational behavior in response to the challenges that everybody's facing. I mean, Chuck referenced earlier some of our competitors have raised prices. But it's going to continue to be a highly dynamic and competitive environment.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Just to add a little bit on top of that, one thing that we like about our position is we're actually uniquely positioned to be able to take advantage of whatever the market does because we have the end-to-end stack underneath our control now. So it's factored in our fourth quarter outlook, and it will be a factor as we come to you with those earnings in our 2027 plan.

Asiya Merchant
Asiya Merchant
Analyst at Citigroup

Okay. Then just a quick one on IT Solutions. I understand the challenges here as the resellers are ramping up, but I think this market, at least with respect to, as I think about it, we had looked at possibly this segment being, let's say, low double digit or high single digit kind of grower. Given that billings and bookings right now are like 1% and 5% respectively, how should we just broadly think about the growth in this market for you guys? Is it still something that we should look at as a, like I said, high single digit, low double digit grower going forward?

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah, I think over the medium and longer term, yes. I think the challenge that we're having is very sort of near term in nature in terms of the ramp of the sellers, the conversion, the velocity of the pipeline. We've seen projects being delayed. Clients are sweating their assets longer. So that sort of makes the timing of the funding a little bit less predictable. But it's not like we're seeing projects canceled or clients leaving, or things that would tell us that our business is going to underperform the market over the long term or even over the medium term. So we're still quite confident in our ability as we ramp these sellers, and we see conversion start to increase, leveraging the existing clients and install base that we have on the print side as well, and the relationships we have.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

We still believe there's an opportunity to perform consistently with the market overall and over time, outperform it. But that certainly we did see some of that actually in the past, right? When we talk about what this business looked like, sort of post the ITsavvy acquisition all the way through Q1 of this year. So we see an opportunity to get back to that. But it's going to take a little bit of time.

Asiya Merchant
Asiya Merchant
Analyst at Citigroup

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Kupinski from Noble Capital Markets. Your question please.

Michael Kupinski
Michael Kupinski
Analyst at Noble Capital Markets

All right. Thanks for taking my questions. You obviously talked a little bit about Lexmark and the prospect for an incremental $100 million in synergies next year. Was just wondering if you can just maybe talk a little bit about, add some color on the incremental savings that should translate into operating income, and how much could be offset by maybe your competitive pricing, your reinvestment or declining revenue. On that front, I was just wondering if you can talk a little bit about what are the major integration milestones you might have left, particularly in manufacturing, your distribution IT infrastructure, so if you could just add us a little color on where you are on the integration.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah. Thank you for the question. Louis, I'll start, maybe you add on the back end of it.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yep.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah, the synergies that we're realizing this year, the actions that we've taken throughout the year this year, you'll get a full year of those benefits next year, that's what's going to drive the $100 million of incremental profitability that we mentioned, into the 2027 plan. The further actions that we continue to work on, are really driven around the big one, driven around the complete adoption of the internally developed A3. We just got big traction in that, or more traction in Q3. It'll grow in Q4, then you'll get a full year benefit of that, throughout next year. The other capabilities, our growth in our global capability centers, which we acquired with Lexmark as part of the acquisition, we continue to expand in those areas at a rapid pace. That's a big cost savings unlocked for us.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

In addition to that, there's still other opportunities inside our business as we either simplify our back office structure and look at the way our operating model works today. Then we'll pass price on as well. It'll be a balance between the two, to help us offset the headwinds that we're seeing.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah, Mike, it's a great question. I think maybe the thing I would just build on top of Chuck's comments in particular on, I'll use the GCCs as an example. There was a tremendous amount of synergy and cost savings simply from consolidating work, right? So insourcing from previously outsourced partners and moving work from different parts of the globe into a single center. That's primarily what the synergies have delivered so far. There's a whole body of work then beyond consolidation when you start to get into standardization of activity and on systems, and then optimizing, automating, orchestrating the work. There's definitely additional opportunity beyond continuing to consolidate work in these centers, but then to do those next stages.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

You asked about milestones, and that's sort of the maturation process that we're on, and we do think there's potentially significant incremental savings that can come from that. It's one of the things that we're sizing for the impact for next year, and we look forward to discussing more on next quarter's call.

Michael Kupinski
Michael Kupinski
Analyst at Noble Capital Markets

Gotcha. Xerox Financial Services receivables declined, as you mentioned. How much additional cash can be released through receivable sales, and what are the implications for future financing income and the company's ability to support equipment sales?

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Yeah, I appreciate the question, Mike. We started, and I said it in my script, at $3.2 billion on the balance sheet in 2022. We currently sit at just above $1 billion, and that's delivered cash back to the business throughout that timeframe. But we still have 1.2, and we still leverage kind of this co-model between carrying some on our balance sheet just because it makes more sense for some of the customers that we deal with. So you're always going to have a piece of that book on your own balance sheet, us finding the right level, for where that's at. We've said in the past, we think it will be about $1 billion. But if we can push that to lower levels, we'll continue to look at opportunities to do that.

Michael Kupinski
Michael Kupinski
Analyst at Noble Capital Markets

Gotcha. Thank you. That's all I have for now. Thank you.

Chuck Butler
Chuck Butler
CFO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Louis Pastor for any further remarks.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Thank you. Look, this quarter brought a mixed message, and we've been candid, or we've definitely tried to be candid about all of it. Our print business is gaining momentum. It continues to gain momentum. Our technology is starting to change the cost of serving customers, and our balance sheet is improving. At the same time, the external environment is getting tougher, and we've reset our expectations to reflect that. In the end, this business runs on trust. Our clients trust us to keep their operations running, and that trust earns the renewals and the annuity that fund our plans. Investors extend us a version of the same trust that we'll be straight with you, telling you the good, the bad, and that we'll follow through on what we need to do. We know what needs to be done. When this call ends, we go back to work on it.

Louis Pastor
Louis Pastor
CEO at Xerox Holdings Corporation

Thank you for your time this morning, and we look forward to updating you next quarter.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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