Somnigroup International Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Negative Sentiment: Somnigroup posted record third-quarter sales of $2.4 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $448 million, and adjusted EPS of $1.04, up 10% year over year, but results were below expectations. Full-year adjusted EPS guidance is $2.85–$2.95, with management expecting the global bedding market to decline at a mid-single-digit rate in the second half.
  • Negative Sentiment: A troubled Dreams ERP rollout drove an unexpected sales decline of about 35%; management estimates a roughly $50 million sales and $25 million adjusted EBITDA impact versus the prior year. The company expects the disruption to be resolved in early 2027, while acknowledging recovery remains subject to market conditions.
  • Positive Sentiment: The Leggett & Platt acquisition adds supply-chain integration and manufacturing scale; the business delivered solid results during its post-close period. Somnigroup cited about $125 million of incremental adjusted EBITDA synergies for 2027 and beyond, alongside $290 million of quarterly free cash flow and leverage of 2.7 times.
  • Positive Sentiment: Management said the Stearns & Foster launch is selling well where placed and has secured an estimated 6% in incremental retail slots from competitors. Upcoming launches include a premium Heritage collection and a next-generation Tempur-Pedic Breeze, which executives expect to support brand differentiation and higher price points.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Mattress Firm’s third-quarter same-store sales fell 2%, with online sales weakness weighing on results; management said online performance has improved after shifting some advertising back to the channel. The company plans to begin measured store expansion in 2027, targeting more than 2,500 locations over time and estimating an approximately 18-month enterprise-wide payback per store.
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Somnigroup International Q3 2026
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Operator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Somnigroup business update call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Lauren Avritt, Director of Investor Relations. Lauren, please go ahead.

Lauren Avritt
Lauren Avritt
Director of Investor Relations at Somnigroup International

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thank you for participating in today's call. Joining me today are Scott Thompson, Chairman, President, and CEO, and Bhaskar Rao, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. This call includes forward-looking statements that are subject to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Lauren Avritt
Lauren Avritt
Director of Investor Relations at Somnigroup International

These forward-looking statements involve uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially due to a variety of factors that could adversely affect the company's business. These factors are discussed in the company's SEC filings, including its annual reports on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date on which it is made. The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. This morning's commentary will also include non-GAAP financial information.

Lauren Avritt
Lauren Avritt
Director of Investor Relations at Somnigroup International

Reconciliations of this non-GAAP financial information can be found in the accompanying press release, which has been posted on the company's website at www.somnigroup.com and filed with the SEC. Our comments will supplement the detailed information provided in the press release. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Good morning. Thank you for joining us on our third quarter 2026 earnings call. I will begin with a review of the quarterly highlights before turning the call over to Bhaskar, who will discuss our financial results and our 2026 earnings outlook in greater detail. Although a bit below our expectations, we are pleased to report that in the third quarter, against a cautious consumer backdrop and ongoing macroeconomic uncertainties, we delivered record net sales of $2.4 billion, record adjusted EBITDA of $448 million, and record adjusted EPS of $1.04 a share, a 10% increase from the third quarter of 2025.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Our first highlight is the successful combination of Leggett & Platt in late August, an important milestone that deepened our vertical integration, secured a critical part of our supply chain, and further strengthened Somnigroup's competitive position. Building on nearly 50 years of collaboration, we've unified complementary businesses that share a commitment to serving customers and advancing product innovation. The combination brings together Leggett & Platt's deep expertise in component engineering with Somnigroup's scale, consumer reach, and portfolio of industry-leading brands, creating new opportunities to accelerate innovation and capture opportunities across the supply chain.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

The addition of Leggett & Platt also further diversifies Somnigroup's global sales and enhances our manufacturing capacity, with a combined 160 manufacturing facilities across 35 countries worldwide. Our second highlight is the performance of Leggett & Platt, which delivered solid results during the stub period through operational execution and disciplined cost management.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

The business generally held up well against a challenging demand backdrop. We experienced strength in trade rod and wire and geotextiles, which offset ongoing softness across residential end markets and automotive. Our third highlight is our mattress innovation pipeline, showcasing several upcoming launches that we believe will enhance Tempur Sealy's portfolio, support our retail partners, and further differentiate our brands in the bedding category.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

We continue to invest in innovative features and benefits in order to deliver insight-driven solutions that elevate our brands. The new Stearns & Foster lineup launched in the third quarter builds on a 180-year legacy of superior comfort, quality, and craftsmanship by introducing new innovative features across the portfolio, along with an expanded product lineup. The collection incorporates enhancements across cooling, coil support, and hybrid construction.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

In addition to the new technology, Stearns & Foster will continue to feature the proprietary IntelliCoil innerspring made by Leggett & Platt. To create greater transparency and confidence for consumers at the point of purchase, we're incorporating Leggett & Platt innerspring branding on the exterior of the new mattress products. We believe this approach helps to highlight the value of the technologies inside the mattress, helping customers better understand the quality of the components beneath the surface and reinforce that what is inside the mattress truly matters. We've also evolved the Stearns & Foster assortment to create greater differentiation across our brand portfolio and a more natural transition between Sealy and Stearns & Foster while preserving differentiation in Tempur-Pedic.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

We believe these changes will strengthen Stearns & Foster's position in the luxury segment, support higher average selling price for our wholesale partners, and create additional opportunities to expand the brand's presence across the retail landscape. The collection has generated significant excitement among our retail partners, and the launch began in late third quarter and will continue through early 2027.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

We're supporting the launch with new national marketing creative that highlights the brand's heritage, elevates design, and the important role quality materials are to improving sleep, and plays well into the health and wellness trend. While advertising has moderated across the broader bedding category, we continue to see significant value in keeping our brands top of mind with consumers and driving traffic to our retail partners. It's early in the launch, but where Stearns & Foster products have been placed, we're seeing strong retail sales.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

We expect a total estimated slot gain of approximately 6% from competitive brands. Turning to our 2027 product pipeline. In addition to the core collection that we launched the third quarter, we are preparing to launch a new Stearns & Foster Heritage Collection in late 2027. Positioned above the national line, this ultra-premium collection is designed to widen the brand's appeal among luxury consumers.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Price range for a queen is $7,499-$10,999, and is expected to be margin accretive in terms of rate and dollars. We are also preparing to launch our next generation Tempur-Pedic Breeze in March, supported by new marketing creative. Breeze is the industry leader in premium cooling and sleep performance, and the new lineup expands our leadership with significant new innovation. Most importantly, the new Tempur material innovation called Tempur CoolRelief, which brings together our advanced pressure-relieving and all-night temperature regulation.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

The new Breeze is designed to be the coolest and most pressure-relieving ever. Early retail response in the lineup is very positive, and initial production is already underway. Our next highlight is the continued strength of our legacy Tempur International business, which delivered high single-digit growth, outperforming the broader industry. Our legacy international business delivered another quarter of strong performance, benefiting from the continued strength of the Tempur brand, disciplined investments in marketing and product innovation, and strong execution across the market.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Our business continues to benefit from the strategic investments we have made over the last couple of years in expanding our addressable market, broadening our consumer reach, and increase in our overall distribution. Let me take a minute and address Dreams' performance during the quarter, which we are fully accountable for. Dreams experienced an unexpected decline in reported sales of approximately 35%.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Effective July 1, Dreams completed the rollout of a new ERP platform, replacing 25-year-old legacy system across manufacturing, warehousing, and retail operations. Think of this as a total replacement of the enterprise IT system. In some cases, moving off Excel worksheets to a modern IT system. Following the system go-live, the platform required typical post-implementation fine-tuning while teams adjusted to new workflows and reporting processes.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

This resulted in temporary operational disruption, including manufacturing delays, extended delivery times, which caused conversion rates to decline both in-store and online, and of course, resulted in poor customer satisfaction and lost orders. Transitioning from a legacy infrastructure to a modern ERP system was necessary for long-term growth and enhanced security, but the near-term execution fell short of our plan. We have reallocated resources to get things back on track. These and other efforts have resulted in meaningful progress to date.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

All in all, we estimate the cost of about $50 million in sales and $25 million in adjusted EBITDA versus prior year. We expect to have this behind us in early first quarter 2027 and return to historical operating levels, subject to market conditions. We routinely execute technology transitions across our global business, investing to maintain and enhance security of our systems, to build capabilities to facilitate future growth and efficiencies. The vast majority of these transitions are completed without disruption. This one was an outlier. I was in the U.K. with the SGI CIO a few weeks ago, and we feel good about the team's progress. Turning to our fifth highlight, Mattress Firm continues to perform well, supported by its leading retail brand awareness, established operating infrastructure, and proven retail model.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

The strategic merchandising actions that we've taken this year, including the recent expansion of Kingsdown to 800 stores nationwide, continues to resonate with consumers. Combined with the investments in refreshing selective stores, the installation of Tempur brand walls across all 2,100 locations, and ongoing enhancements to our differentiated selling process, these initiatives have elevated the customer experience and further strengthened Mattress Firm's competitive position. Building on our commitment to improve the consumer experience, Mattress Firm has announced enhanced component qualification standards designed to ensure consumers receive high-quality products. Under this initiative, key materials and components are evaluated against more rigorous performance and durability standards. Leggett & Platt innerspring systems and ECS's foams are among and some others have been qualified under these enhanced requirements.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

As consumers become increasingly informed about the quality and the construction of the products they purchase, we believe this approach provides greater transparency, reinforces confidence in the sleep solution offered on our floor, and helps ensure customers receive the quality and value that they expect at that price point. In addition to our relentless focus on improving the consumer's experience within existing doors, we see a compelling opportunity to begin in 2027 to leverage Mattress Firm's proven retail model and strong brand awareness to pursue a disciplined multi-year store expansion strategy that will further extend Mattress Firm's retail footprint. Our approach will be methodical and data-driven, with a focus on optimizing store placement and strengthening our presence in attractive markets, beginning with a modest number of openings and steadily ramping up in the years ahead.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

We see the opportunity to grow over time our Mattress Firm store count to more than 2,500 locations. Beyond the benefit to Mattress Firm as a standalone business, expanding our footprint also creates incremental sales opportunities for brands carried on the Mattress Firm floor, including Tempur, Stearns & Foster, and Sealy, as well as the component manufacturer, including Leggett & Platt. We estimate an average payback period per store of approximately one year and a half when you look at the benefits on an enterprise-wide basis. Our final highlight is the strength of our Tempur Sealy North America business, which continues to perform well. Our strong product portfolio, disciplined brand investment, focus on execution, and growing share of distribution within Mattress Firm helped drive another quarter of solid performance. Our well-positioned portfolio of premium brands and products continue to experience solid consumer demand.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

We continue to see encouraging improvement in our direct channel performance, benefiting from initiatives implemented earlier this year to simplify the customer journey, increase conversion, and enhance our overall shopping experience. These efforts, together with the strength of our portfolio, contributed to our improved performance. We were especially encouraged by the performance of our Tempur retail stores during the quarter, which delivered low double-digit same-store sales growth and demonstrated the continued appeal of the Tempur retail experience. We remain focused on supporting our third-party retail partners through continued investment in advertising, product innovation, customer engagement. Importantly, we continue to invest behind our brands, helping to keep our brands top of mind with consumers and drive traffic to our retail partners. With that, I'll turn the call over to Bhaskar.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Thank you, Scott. Before discussing our financial results, I would like to briefly address our updated reporting structure following the completion of the Leggett acquisition. Leggett will be reported as a single consolidated reportable segment within Somnigroup, consistent with our other reporting segments, Tempur Sealy North America, Tempur Sealy International, and Mattress Firm. Additionally, to better reflect how we manage and evaluate Somnigroup, we have updated our channel reporting framework. Going forward, we will report results across three channels: direct bedding, wholesale bedding and furnishings, and specialized products. The direct bedding channel includes sales to consumers through our company-owned retail stores and websites, consisting of branded and private label bedding products.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

The wholesale bedding and furnishing channel includes sales to third-party bedding retailers and other manufacturers, consisting of branded bedding products, private label bedding products and components, as well as furniture components, private label furniture, textile, and geo components and flooring products. The specialized products channel includes sales to automotive manufacturers and material handling and heavy construction industries, consisting of automotive comfort and in-car motion systems, hydraulic cylinders, and other engineered products. With that background, let me turn to our record third quarter financial results. In the third quarter of 2026, consolidated sales were a record $2.4 billion, and adjusted earnings per share was $1.04, up 10% over the prior year. This was the best performing quarter in the company's history.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

We have approximately $82 million of pro forma adjustments in the quarter, all of which are consistent with the terms of our senior credit facility. These adjustments are largely comprised of professional fees and transaction-related costs associated with the acquisition of Leggett, including transition and other one-time costs incurred to support the combination. Since the transaction closed on August 26th, our third quarter results include Leggett's financial and operating performance from the closing date through the end of the third quarter. As a reminder, we have now fully lapped the Mattress Firm acquisition in the first quarter of this year, and we have lapped the related divestitures of Sleep Outfitters and Mattress Firm retail locations in the second quarter of this year. For comparative purposes, we will present like-for-like commentary for Tempur Sealy North America on a standalone basis, which will include intercompany sales to Mattress Firm.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

We will also present like-for-like commentary for Leggett on a standalone basis, which will include the intercompany sales to other Somnigroup segments. Now turning to Mattress Firm results. Net sales through Mattress Firm were approximately $1 billion in the third quarter, and same-store sales declined 2%, and our reported basis declined 6%, primarily driven by softer online sales. Mattress Firm adjusted gross margins decreased 100 basis points to 34.6%, driven by investments in Mattress Firm stores and consumer financing costs, partially offset by cost synergies. Mattress Firm adjusted operating margins increased approximately 20 basis points to 9.6%, driven by increased cooperative advertising dollars, partially offset by declining gross margin. Turning to Leggett's results.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Net sales through Leggett were $373 million in the third quarter, which reflects a partial quarter following the acquisition close in late August, net of the elimination of sales to other Somnigroup business segments. Sales to the wholesale bedding and furnishings channel were $272 million, and sales through the specialized channel were $101 million. For the full quarter, including the period prior to the acquisition, Leggett's sales were $973 million on a like-for-like basis, including sales to other Somnigroup business segments. For the partial quarter following the acquisition, Leggett's reported adjusted gross margin was 21.9%, and Leggett's reported adjusted operating margin was 11%. I should note that September is a seasonally high period for Leggett. Turning to Tempur Sealy North America. Sales declined 4% on a like-for-like basis.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Like-for-like net sales through the wholesale bedding and furnishings channel declined 5%, and net sales through our direct bedding channel increased 2%. We achieved $25 million of net benefit from sales and cost synergies from Mattress Firm acquisition in the third quarter. We also received approximately $20 million in tariff refunds, which reduced cost of goods sold. The timing of these refunds was accelerated relative to our original expectation that they would be received in the fourth quarter. This benefit effectively offset the unexpected performance of Dreams that Scott discussed earlier, resulting in a neutral enterprise-wide impact for these one-time items. Our third quarter was also pressured by elevated transportation costs, resulting in a headwind of approximately $5 million to our third quarter results relative to our expectations.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

North America adjusted gross margins increased a robust 690 basis points to 65.5%, principally driven by tariff refunds and the achievement of synergies, partially offset by the elevated transportation costs I mentioned a moment ago. North America adjusted operating margins improved 450 basis points to 34%, driven by the improvement in gross margin, partially offset by investments in cooperative advertising. Now turning to Tempur Sealy International results. International net sales declined 12% on a reported basis and a constant currency basis, largely due to transitory ERP disruptions at Dreams. As Scott mentioned a moment ago, our international results, excluding the transitory ERP issue, reflect the continued strength of our legacy international business. Our international gross margins declined 360 basis points to 45.5%, principally driven by the transitory Dreams headwind and mix. Our international operating margin declined 870 points to 9.4%, driven by the deleverage and the decline in gross margin.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Now moving on to Somnigroup's balance sheet and cash flow items. At the end of the third quarter, consolidated debt less cash was $5 billion, and our leverage ratio was 2.7x, reflecting our strong cash generation, disciplined approach to capital allocation, and the deleveraging impact of acquiring Leggett with 100% stock. Turning to cash flow performance. In a muted market, we delivered robust operating cash flow of $349 million and free cash flow of $290, even after approximately $35 million of cash transaction costs. Now turning to our 2026 guidance. As a reminder, our guidance considers the elimination of intercompany sales between Tempur Sealy and Mattress Firm, which we expect to represent approximately 24% of global Tempur Sealy 2026 sales.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Our guidance also considers the elimination of intercompany sales between Leggett and other Somnigroup segments, which we expect to represent 6.5% of Leggett's 2026 sales. Intercompany eliminations in accordance with GAAP will reduce Tempur Sealy sales, but will be margin accretive and neutral to dollars of operating profit. We expect adjusted earnings per share to be between $2.85 and $2.95 for the full-year. This guidance range contemplates a sales midpoint of approximately $8.65 billion after intercompany eliminations. Our annual guidance also reflects our updated expectation that the global bedding industry will be down mid-single digits in the back half of the year. Tempur Sealy North America like-for-like sales are flattish. International business sales are flattish, with expected sequential improvement in Dreams trends from the third to fourth quarter.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Like-for-like Mattress Firm sales down low single digits, and for like-for-like Leggett sales in the fourth quarter to be approximately $875 million after intercompany elimination. Legacy SGI gross margin is expected to be approximately 45%, driven by operational efficiencies, including synergies and operating leverage, partially offset by the impact of pricing. With the inclusion of Leggett, we expect reported gross margin slightly above 41%. Somnigroup expects to occur approximately $50 million of annualized non-cash expense from the adjustment to fair value of the acquired Leggett business, which will primarily impact cost of goods sold, and approximately $10 million of annualized non-cash expense from the adjustment to fair value of the acquired Leggett bonds, which will impact interest expense. The company anticipates these non-cash items will be financial adjustments in accordance with the terms of our credit facility in computing adjusted EPS.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Our 2026 outlook also contemplates our assumption for Tempur Sealy brands and private labels to be in the mid-60% of Mattress Firm's total sales. This represents about an incremental $65 million of adjusted EBITDA benefit for 2026 compared to 2025, and approximately $680 million of advertising investment. This all results in an estimated adjusted EBITDA for 2026 of $1.4 billion at the midpoint of our guidance. Regarding capital expenditures, we expect 2026 CapEx of approximately $255 million, including CapEx of $75 million under our Mattress Firm store refresh and brand wall program. We expect CapEx to normalize to $300 million in future years. We believe this level of investment is appropriate to support continued growth, innovation, and operational excellence across our portfolio of businesses. Now I'd like to flag a few modeling items.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

For the full-year 2026, we expect D&A of approximately $330 million, interest expense of approximately $240 million, on a tax rate of 25%, with a diluted share count of 220 million shares for the full-year, and 233 million shares for the fourth quarter. With that, I will turn the call back over to Scott.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Thank you, Bhaskar. Great job. In closing, there's no doubt the industry is not yet normalized. The headwinds were a bit more than we expected, plus we had an unexpected IT implementation issue at Dreams. Even so, our third quarter results reflect the strength of our business model, the dedication of our teams, and the benefits of our strategic investments we've made across the organization. Our competitive advantages and investment thesis are strong, and we believe we're well-positioned for long-term success. I think it's clear to see that we're using the industry's downturn to build a global powerhouse in bedding that we believe is uniquely positioned for significant success as the industry normalizes. While the industry remains pressured by global conflicts and the related impact on consumer confidence, we are generating significant free cash flow, enhancing our competitive position, and driving efficiencies.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Importantly, we're not just waiting for the industry to recover. We're looking ahead. We have a clear set of initiatives, largely within our control, that we expect will drive adjusted EPS growth in 2027. First, we expect the IT operational disruption in Dreams to correct. Second, we expect to continue to gain share across our businesses. At Tempur Sealy, we're launching innovative new products, including new Stearns & Foster lineup and the next generation Tempur-Pedic Breeze. At Mattress Firm, we expect to continue to drive same-store outperformance and to ramp our new store growth strategy. As part of Somnigroup, we believe Leggett & Platt is well-positioned to outperform its markets. As just one example, we expect their share of U.S. spring market to expand in 2027. Third, we have meaningful synergies and efficiency opportunities ahead of us.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Our synergy opportunities for 2027 and beyond represent approximately $125 million of incremental adjusted EBITDA, with additional Leggett opportunities that we're just now starting to quantify. We also expect to capture meaningful savings as we execute the redesign of our U.S. logistics network. Lastly, we are continuing to carefully consider acquisition opportunities. The current environment has certainly created more opportunities. Taken together, these strategic programs and our core competitive advantages position us to continue growing earnings, even if there is a flattish industry environment, all while we build an enterprise that has meaningful additional upside as the industry normalizes. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the call up for questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Please limit yourself to one question. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. Once your question has been answered, you may press star one to rejoin the queue. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset with asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Susan Maklari
Susan Maklari
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for all the details on the call. I want to focus a bit on the consumer. Can you talk about how the business performed in the quarter, and are you seeing any changes since we've moved past the midterm elections, and what that could mean for Black Friday and demand into the end of this year and maybe even early into 2027?

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Thank you, Susan, for your question. Bhaskar wrote them all down to remind me, your five questions you slipped in. Talking about the third quarter, third quarter started relatively weak, then improved during the quarter to result in the numbers that you've seen. So, a little improvement throughout the quarter. If you're talking about post-close at the end of third quarter into the fourth quarter, I think we would describe our order book and same-store sales at Mattress Firm slightly better than we reported, but that's generally because it's a weaker comp in the fourth quarter, so no significant change in business, but a little bit of a weaker comp. On the really near term, and we'll call it post-election impact and obviously significant changes in Washington, I think it's too early. I can't say we've seen anything significant.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

I do think that the foundation of the last part of your questions is very good, because I do think that it's possible good for the marketplace to have a change in Washington, probably a focus on housing, and I think that may benefit us in 2027. Obviously, any positive impact on the wars that are going on globally will certainly have an impact on the Fed and interest rates. So, I would say slightly more positive incrementally with some of the near-term changes from a business standpoint, but can't say we've really seen anything in the marketplace.

Operator

Your next question comes from Pedro Gil with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Pedro Gil
Pedro Gil
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Good morning, Scott, Bhaskar. Thank you for taking my question. I would like to ask you about the launch of Stearns & Foster. How is the launch tracking relative to your expectations? What is the best way for us to think about the opportunity in terms of the incremental floor slots next year, the revenue contribution? Is it possible that some of the weakness that we have seen in the third quarter in wholesale, in Tempur Sealy North America wholesale, is related to retailers perhaps holding back their orders a little bit in anticipation of the new product in the fourth quarter, and some of that may get recaptured as we go into the end of the year?

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Sure. Thank you for your question. Stearns & Foster launch is going well to what I call very well. Where it is placed, its velocity has been very good, and it has come out of the gate strong. It is not fully placed. It will be placed in the fourth quarter and probably finished by the early first quarter-ish—

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Correct.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

—give or take, Bhaskar. At Mattress Firm, it has record balance of share. So, from just an execution standpoint and early sell-through, looks very good. Yeah, there is no question, when you do these launches, the retailers have to burn through the old stock, and so there is some weakness that you would expect to be felt in the third quarter relative anticipation of the launch. As far as I think, and it is one of the more interesting things, we can point to incremental slots, and these are not slots trading between Sealy and Stearns & Foster. These are incremental slots from competition that we have been assigned from third-party retailers, and call it 6% is on the books today.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

I think with the strength of the launch and advertising support from Mattress Firm, it is possible that the incremental slots increase, which is great to see, because Stearns & Foster is not fully distributed in the U.S., where Sealy and Tempur really are fully distributed. So, seeing incremental gains there is good for the brand. It also addresses some people's issues that bring up that whether or not we are getting support from third-party retailers. I think we have clear evidence of that standpoint. As far as the incrementality of the product. Bhaskar, you have any comments on that?

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

We are very excited about the opportunity. As Scott said, it is about 6% lift from a slot standpoint. We would also anticipate some slot velocity improvement on the existing slots. If you think about it just holistically, many years ago, we identified Stearns as a white space opportunity, being the next billion-dollar brand, and this is a good continuation from a strategy standpoint. There is a consumer out there that wants a high-end sleeping experience, but with more traditional feel.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

The other thing we should highlight, it was in the prepared remarks, is we will call it the premium products coming out in Stearns later in 2027. That is really a new area that is getting us some, call it almost super premium products that we do not really address in spring format. We address it in the Tempur brand, but not in the springs market. So, that is going after the super high end, and that should be incremental business and should be incremental slots that we will be talking about later in 2027.

Operator

Your next question comes from Bobby Griffin with Raymond James. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Bobby Griffin
Bobby Griffin
Analyst at Raymond James

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I was hoping Bhaskar or Scott or both you guys could spend a little time maybe just unpacking what changed versus two months ago. I think there was about a $0.20 reduction at the midpoint for the guide. Bhaskar, as we think about next year, I understand I am not asking you to call the industry yet. It is almost impossible to call. But there is a lot of moving parts that wrap into next year, so I just want to make sure we have those. You have the Leggett accretion, which I think you guys previously talked about $0.30-$0.40 with $0.10 this year. You got additional Mattress Firm synergies at $50 million. You got some Leggett synergies that we could pick a number on.

Bobby Griffin
Bobby Griffin
Analyst at Raymond James

And then you have the ERP issue that I think you said you expect to largely get back. Is there anything else there when we are trying to think about this bridge to EPS growth that we should be considering, and anything you could put around that?

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Yeah, let me start with the bridge, Bobby, and great question. If you look at the midpoint of the 2026 guidance, we will call that $2.90. Then I think as you called out, then there is the wraparound effect of the accretion from the Leggett combination. Incrementally, that wraparound is another $0.25—

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

That is right.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

—onto the $2.90 for 2026. Then the scheduled realization of the synergies that we have talked about that is about another $0.25 in 2027. The way I think about it is it is basically $2.90 plus $0.25 for wraparound Leggett, $0.25 for synergies, and so-called a run rate exit that we are targeting for 2027 of $3.40. That is the way we are thinking about the reconciliation of it. I will go ahead and address the question because someone is going to ask about the $5.15, which is our targeted aspirational EPS for 2028. Somebody will put in their calculator $3.40 and work off the compound growth rate to get to the $5.15. That is a 23% growth rate over the two-year period.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

If you go back and look at the $5.15, we gave revenue assumptions during that, and it was built off of, call it a 24% EPS growth to start with. We are still kind of tracking to the $5.15, but clearly, we are having to use different levers in the business to hit those numbers. It is good because in the original projection, we had some conservative assumptions on capital allocation and expense reductions, and our revenue assumption ended up being a little sporty. We are going to continue to work on those levers, but I think that is the reconciliation. Bobby is asking about guide to guide.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

You want to walk him through that?

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Absolutely. Versus prior expectations, where we were leaving the second quarter, just a couple of things. One is, again, as Scott Thompson mentioned, completely accountable, but Dreams. Dreams was worse than expected. From a quantification standpoint, it is about $25 million of EBITDA for the entirety of the back half, and that is again versus expectations. In addition to that, we called out some transportation inflation in all of our BUs, principally associated with the price of gasoline, petroleum, diesel, and how that runs through our supply chain versus our previous expectations. That is about $15 million when you think about all of our BUs. As I think about transportation inflation and this inflation overall, as we always do, the industry always does, is that we evaluate where we are. Is this a transitory item or is this something that is going to stick around for a while?

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

To the extent it sticks around for a while, what the industry has historically done is put price in the system, and we will go through that evaluation. Finally, what I would call out is just around the edges, the industry just a bit softer than what we had expected. You put all that together, you get to where we were and versus where we are. Again, principally, it is around Dreams and a bit of transportation inflation.

Operator

Your next question comes from Rafe Jadrosich with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Rafe Jadrosich
Rafe Jadrosich
Analyst at Bank of America

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to follow up on that last one on some of the cost inflation. Can you talk about how price cost trended basically through the year, like where you were in 2Q, 3Q, what you're expecting for 4Q? Do you expect to announce additional pricing to offset that incremental inflation that you talked about? And if, I know commodities are moving around a lot, but heading into next year, are we now covered going into next year where you expect price cost to be neutral, or would that take additional pricing? Thank you.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Yeah, I'll let Bhaskar clean me up a little bit on some of the details, but I guess the way I think about it is right now, we're incurring some extra costs—

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Yeah

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

—that we have not passed on—

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Yes

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

—to customers, which is normal. You know the industry well, we absorb costs for a while. If those costs stick, then we have a price increase, and that is consistent with both us and the industry. As we sit here today, we have got some extra costs that have not been passed on. If something does not change, and obviously things could change rapidly with some of the global issues, then I would anticipate that we would have a price increase sometime in the first half of next year. But that decision has not been made yet, as we watch it. But it is likely, I would say, at this point. Is that fair, Bhaskar?

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

That is. Just to put some numbers around that, just as we entered the back half of the year, we had anticipated there would be about a $10 million benefit versus the cost that we were seeing, and that was to make up for what we incurred in the first half. What has come to pass is that because of principally what is happening from a petroleum standpoint, we have lost that benefit and incurred a bit on top of it. As Scott said, we thought that we are a little bit behind as it relates to cost price, and that we evaluate that as we get in and out of 2026.

Operator

Your next question comes from Marius Morar with Zelman. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Michael Lasser
Michael Lasser
Analyst at UBS

Hello?

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

He may be on mute.

Lauren Avritt
Lauren Avritt
Director of Investor Relations at Somnigroup International

I think you may have opened the line for Michael Lasser with UBS.

Operator

The line is open for Michael Lasser with UBS.

Michael Lasser
Michael Lasser
Analyst at UBS

Good morning. Thank you so much for taking—

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Good morning.

Michael Lasser
Michael Lasser
Analyst at UBS

Thank you so much for taking my question. Given how demand has unfolded, my question is twofold. First, is there any evidence that you are simply seeing a function of affordability with mattresses becoming increasingly an issue, or some increase in the rise of imported mattresses that are interfering with the domestic ability to see a recovery? Then the second part of this is, if this is the condition into next year, you already framed 340 as the starting point, how should we sensitize our models to a potential either recovery in mattress demand from that 340, or further languishing of mattress demand, in that case, next year? Thank you so much.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Thank you for your question. I am going to let Bhaskar do the modeling at the end, and let me see if I can knock out the question and let him do the modeling. First off, from the import standpoint, no, there is no evidence that we have imports flooding in the market. In fact, all of our data, and I think everybody's data I have heard them report, would say that imports are down.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

So I do not think we have got an import issue, and for tariff reasons and other reasons, I do not see that currently as an issue. From a cost standpoint or price of product or price people out of the market, that one is a really interesting issue and one we watch closely. I would tell you, I do not think there is an issue there, and let me tell you why I think there is not an issue there.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Because people really do not know what a mattress should cost them. I think if there was a problem with affordability, we would see it in closing rates, i.e., the people that actually come into the marketplace, go into a store, interact with an RSA, look at the bed, and then go, "Oh my gosh, it costs this much?" Then the closing rates would go down. We are not seeing any issues anywhere in the industry, both in the stores that we run or our third-party retailers, where closing rates are declining. In fact, closing rates are going up. So I do not think there is an affordability issue because they do not really know the price. Are we having issues at the low end of the marketplace or the entry-level customer? Without question. They are just not in the market, but I do not think it is an affordability mattress.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

I think those customers are under some financial stress, and they are just not in the market to buy anything, and I do not think they are particularly the price is the issue. I think it is also interesting when you look at our detail, in the U.S. I am speaking to, the brands that are the strongest were Tempur and Stearns & Foster. So from a brand standpoint, we are not seeing any trade-down or issues on pricing. So I think we have got that one pretty covered up. I think the last thing I really should point to is our Tempur stores, which are super high-priced premium stores. It is growing at double digits. So, that part I feel good about, and then he asked a question about the 340 in his model, and I do not do models, you do.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Absolutely. What is implicit in the math, the algorithm that Scott went through was just building blocks on top of 2026. No necessarily industry either growth or going backwards. One of the items that we pointed to historically, as you think about a point of growth, a point of industry growth, would give us about $0.10 from an EPS standpoint. If you get outside of this most recent trend that we have gone through from an industry standpoint, the industry was very dependable, growing anywhere between 3%-6% after coming from price, after coming from ASP. There is nothing out there that would indicate that the industry should be thought about differently. There is a recovery coming, it is just a matter of when. We do believe that we are uniquely positioned to take advantage of that.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

I would further say that we have the demonstrated ability to think about from a cost standpoint every day. It is not only to think about how we can best service our customers, but how to do that in the most efficient and effective way. Rest assured, that is what we are doing now and what we have done in the past, and what we will do going forward.

Operator

Your next question comes from Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Brad Thomas
Brad Thomas
Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hi. Good morning, Scott. Good morning, Bhaskar. One of the key topics that regularly comes up in our investor conversations is pushback around some of the risks of the scale that Somnigroup is getting with the two big acquisitions over the last few years. Scott, I was hoping you could maybe talk to, for one, performance at the non-Mattress Firm stores, how that channel is going. Then for two, early thoughts on the customer retention or potential growth of customers for the Leggett business. Thanks.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Sure. Let me do Leggett first because it is real easy. Leggett has performed very well since the acquisition. When I look at their business units or sub-business units, however you want to speak to them, I think they are all performing well considering the market conditions. When I look at the bedding piece, and it is called out in the script, I would expect their balance of share, we will call it, in the U.S. springs to increase and for them to begin to gain market share after a number of years of losing market share, and for a variety of reasons, one being the lean-in from the family brands, related family brands, some tariff issues, and just the quality of the product.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

When you go to, and I think you are talking about U.S. bedding, non-Mattress Firm, otherwise known as our other other for short, because that is a lot of words to use to describe a sub-segment. If you look at that particular market, I would say we held share in that marketplace. What are we thinking, down 6%?

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

That is right. Down 5% or 6%.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Down 5% or 6% in the term other other. If you really get into other other, which is more detail than you asked for, but maybe since people ask about, I will give them a little bit more. If you look at the top 30, I would tell you, I think we are gaining share in the top 30 other other, and below that, there is some pressure. Some of that could be launch relationships in that some of the competition had a lot of launches right before the third quarter, and we did not, and now we are launching, so there is a little bit of launch, apple and orange. But in general, holding share. I think I called it out in the script specifically because people keep focused on it, and we are gaining incremental slots in Stearns & Foster, which is not insignificant.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

I am not seeing any significant issues in the other. We have to perform every day for those retailers to help drive their business and their profitability, and we are doing that, and we are fine there. Then on Leggett, I have not seen any issues in customer churn, either non-bedding or bedding, that would be material to them.

Operator

Your next question comes from Peter Keith with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Peter Keith
Peter Keith
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Hi. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Hope you are doing well. I wanted to ask a question that has been perking up around the bit of change in consumer shopping behavior with AI. I guess the question would relate to agentic AI searches and how those can recommend different mattress brands and companies that are large have to use a totally different approach than you would traditionally use with Google search words. What are you guys doing at this point to optimize yourself for agentic AI search? Maybe on a related basis, could you just talk about why the total ad spend continues to come down a bit?

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Yeah. First of all, your question is very astute, and I would actually agree with the wording of how you worded your question. Yeah, AI has changed some of the searches, and there are some competitive advantages and disadvantages for various companies because of that. Certainly, strategies and marketing need to change and move with the times. I am not going to go into a lot of detail about what we are doing because we kind of like to keep it a little bit quiet. First of all, let me assure you that we have noticed it, noticed it for about a year and a half or two, and are working on it. But it gets to be what I call the scrape and how AI scrapes information and then makes its decisions. We are spending significant time and effort in that area.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

I think, if you need to give us a couple more quarters, I think we'll have some more concrete things we could talk about cleanly without being too transparent to competition stuff. No, I think it's an exciting area. I do think it's an area that, at first, the smaller companies probably have an advantage because historically they have advertised in a way that is advantaged compared to the larger companies. I'm confident that over time that actually the changes that have been made and are going on in AI are going to benefit the larger companies, as they move and have the resources to do what they need to do and make changes, much like the internet did, if you remember, in the bed-in-a-box era.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

At first, the smaller companies were very advantaged compared to the large companies, and it took a little while for the larger companies to, quote, "get fully in the game." Once they did, it had a devastating effect on the bed-in-a-box industry. I think this is kind of the same thing, and it's a top priority for us. On advertising spend, look, it's variable, and it moves around with demand and efficiency, and we're constantly pushing the marketing teams for efficiency, and they're doing a great job. You should expect that it's going to move somewhat in line with revenues, and some of it's co-op, so it's kind of automatic.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

That's right.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

If sales are pressured some places, it ratchets down with the co-op agreements with the non-Mattress Firm retailers. Well, and Mattress Firm, actually, because it has the same advertising co-op program as everybody else.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Just additive to that is that we are, the leadership at Dreams is mindful while they are going through something, just managing advertising to just manage the customer's expectations. Primarily, as Scott indicated, it is variable associated with revenue, principally because it is co-op and efficiencies, but also with Dreams, just managing the customer inflow.

Operator

Your next question comes from Marius Morar with Zelman. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Marius Morar
Marius Morar
Analyst at Zelman

Good morning, everyone. Can you hear me now?

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Yes.

Marius Morar
Marius Morar
Analyst at Zelman

Great. Thank you for squeezing me in. I just wanted to follow up again on the softness you called in online sales in Mattress Firm, and I was wondering if you can tell us more about that. Is that sort of more focused on the lower price points? Is it widespread? Do you see any of that softness in the Tempur Sealy North America online sales? Thank you.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Yeah. Good question. I would say, to be very transparent on the Mattress Firm online sales, they've underperformed. We allocated some advertising away from that particular channel and moved it more towards top of the funnel, more towards driving intenders into the marketplace to benefit both Mattress Firm and the industry and drive customers into the store, where those sales are generally higher ASP. We've probably overdone it, and we're pivoting back some investment into the online business. That's probably a— We leaned one way a little bit too much. More recently, since the third quarter, the Mattress Firm online sales have improved and are getting much closer to in line with where we would expect them to be. They're not quite there yet, but we made a change, and we've changed a little bit back. We'll call that a little bit self-inflicted from our standpoint.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

As it relates to Tempur Sealy's online sales, I would say they're pretty much slightly better than the industry. We'll call that an inline performer on the Mattress Firm side of the house. My recollection internationally is they did well from an online perspective in the traditional international group.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Bhaskar?

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Yes, correct.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jonathan Matuszewski from Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Jonathan Matuszewski
Jonathan Matuszewski
Analyst at Jefferies

Great. Good morning, Scott. Good morning, Bhaskar. Thanks for the time. My question was on stores. Maybe could you just clarify what modest store growth would look like for Mattress Firm in 2027 relative to the current base? And maybe just spend a second on why now is the best time to turn to unit growth and how your go-forward view of industry growth for 2027 maybe shapes your decision here? Thanks so much.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Sure. Let me give a little bit of background so we are all thinking the same way. Mattress Firm at one time had, I think, over 3,400 stores, and they did went through a very large store reduction. What were we, 2,200-ish? 2,100?

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

That is right, 2,150.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

2,150 today. The store count has drifted down over the last couple of years, 150 stores-ish, guys, for—

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Yes

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

—talking terms. Primarily, not really by strategy, but based on, look, we just bought Mattress Firm, and we wanted to make sure we fully understood their real estate strategy, what kind of tools they used to make decisions, how they looked at return on investment, how they looked at cannibalization within the store market when they opened them. We wanted time. We wanted time to fully get aligned on a real estate strategy. So during that period, the stores have dwindled down. Probably we were a little conservative, probably shouldn't have closed, probably should have maybe not taken so much time to study it. When you open a store, it is an investment, and we think about signing a lease as deployed capital. Now we've done that. That's the why now.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

The why now is we are very comfortable with the real estate team, the new CEO over there is doing a great job, and we're comfortable with an expansion. There's clearly opportunity to expand, and it's not to expand back to 3,400 stores, and we're also clear about that, is that the opportunity is more like 2,500. We don't expect the store count to shrink. We would like for it to grow modestly. I think I got that part of the question. As far as how many exactly, I can't tell you because real estate's complicated. There's zoning, there's everything else. It takes a while to get the process kind of wound up, we'll call it. You should think about it's going to ramp up, but it's going to ramp up with a pace in the outer years rather than the early years.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Because, look, we want to be cautious about deploying capital, but I think it's a great time to start that because a store that you feel really good about in the worst bedding market in North America's history, that looks like it's got a return of full payback in 18 months, you can imagine what it looks like in a good market. I think now is the time when you do expansions, as long as you have the proper controls around it.

Operator

Our final question comes from Phillip Blee with William Blair. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Phillip Blee
Phillip Blee
Analyst at William Blair

Morning, Scott, Bhaskar. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to touch on the two new Stearns & Foster launches over the next year. Just how much growth in ASP do you expect from expanding your assortment across some of these higher price points? What kind of acceleration volumes could this start to generate? Then just how do you think about the potential lift from cross-marketing benefits across your own brands on some of these newer products going forward? Thank you, guys.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Sure. As you think about the velocity, what we have here and now is that the incremental slots, call it about 6%, once we get fully floored starting, let's call it before Presidents' Day, then an improvement on a slot velocity perspective versus what we had before. All of that should be, from an incremental standpoint, as Scott said, the 6% is completely additive, not necessarily cannibalizing from what we have. What we also anticipate is, just as a reminder, when we did the Posturepedic last year, is that we took pricing up a bit. This launch is important for many reasons. One is there's a consumer out there that we want to meet. Second is that it removes some of that overlap that we had from Posturepedic. Naturally, you're going to get some ASP increase as a result of that.

Bhaskar Rao
Bhaskar Rao
EVP and CFO at Somnigroup International

Then finally, I want to say the Heritage line, this is a long time coming. Again, the way I would think about that as much it's a, yes, we want to sell some units, yes, we want to make some margin, but it also, it's a halo project. You introduce product up there, it makes everything else more attractive, not only within the Stearns family, but broadly speaking, across the entire portfolio. Net-net, Stearns, we're very excited about it, of what it could do for us, not only within Stearns, but the entire portfolio. Scott, anything else?

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

No, the only thing else I would add to that, it was interesting that the Heritage step-up brand that's coming out of Stearns, that actually came from the retailers. The retailers actually asked for it. We're actually servicing a need that the other retailers and Mattress Firm asked for, which is kind of unique. No, we're optimistic.

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back to Scott Thompson, CEO, for closing remarks.

Scott Thompson
Chairman, President, and CEO at Somnigroup International

Thank you, operator. To our over 36,000 associates around the world, thank you for what you do every day to make the company successful. To our customers, thank you for your outstanding representation of our brands and components. To our shareholders and lenders, thank you for your confidence in the company's leadership and its board of directors. This ends our call today, operator.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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