NYSE:EHC Encompass Health Q4 2025 Earnings Results & Report $126.36 +2.03 (+1.64%) Closing price 10/14/2026 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$132.58 +6.22 (+4.92%) As of 09:06 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. Encompass Health beat analyst expectations on both earnings and revenue in its Q4 2025 results, released February 5, 2026. The company reported EPS of $1.46 versus the $1.29 consensus estimate, while revenue of $3.09 billion topped the $1.54 billion estimate by $1.55 billion. Revenue increased 9.9% year over year. Research:ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Earnings Announcement Details QuarterQ4 2025Report DateFebruary 5, 2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFebruary 6, 2026Conference Call10:00 AM ET Encompass Health EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.46Consensus EPS $1.29Beat/MissBeat by +$0.17One Year Ago EPS$1.17EPS Beat Rate8 of last 8 quartersEncompass Health Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$3.09 billionExpected Revenue$1.54 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.55 billionYoY Revenue Growth+9.90%Upcoming EarningsEncompass Health's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, October 28, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, October 29, 2026 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Encompass Health Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 6, 2026ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Encompass reported strong 2025 results—revenue up ~10.5%, adjusted EBITDA up ~14.9%, and record adjusted free cash flow of $818M—allowing $158M of buybacks, $71M of dividends and year-end net leverage of 1.9x. Neutral Sentiment: Management emphasized preparedness for regulatory pilots (RCD and TEAM), citing a ~93% RCD affirmation rate in Alabama and higher affirmation experience in Pennsylvania, and expects to manage expansion into Texas and California with existing processes. Positive Sentiment: Operational cost trends improved: premium labor spend fell by more than $21M year-over-year (Q4 premium labor at lowest level since Q1 2021), lower preopening costs from faster Medicare certifications, and continued discipline on SWB per FTE. Positive Sentiment: Capacity growth remains a focus—517 beds added in 2025 (8 new hospitals plus expansions) and a new growth modality of 24-bed small-format hospitals planned from 2027 to enable a hub-and-spoke strategy in dense markets. Negative Sentiment: One large Medicare Advantage plan sharply reduced conversion rates in Q4 (referrals up but admits down), prompting an aggressive admit-and-appeal strategy and potential CMS engagement—this poses a near-term volume and reimbursement risk if unresolved. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEncompass Health Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Stand by, your meeting is about to begin. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to today's Encompass Health Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform all participants that their lines will be in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, please press star one on your telephone. You will be limited to one question and one follow-up question. Just a reminder, today's call is being recorded, and if you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Mark Miller, Encompass Health's Chief Investor Relations Officer. Mark, please go ahead. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health00:00:43Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Encompass Health's fourth quarter 2025 earnings call. Before we begin, if you do not already have a copy, the fourth quarter earnings release, supplemental information, and related Form 8-K filed with the SEC are available on our website at encompasshealth.com. On page two of the supplemental information, you will find the safe harbor statements, which are also set forth in greater detail on the last page of the earnings release. During the call, we'll make forward-looking statements such as guidance and growth projections, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health00:01:27Certain risks and uncertainties, like those relating to regulatory developments, as well as volume, bad debt, and cost trends that could cause actual results to differ materially from our projections, estimates, and expectations, are discussed in the company's SEC filings, including the earnings release and related Form 8-K and the Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, when filed. We encourage you to read them. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the estimates, projections, guidance, and other forward-looking information presented, which are based on current estimates of future events and speak only as of today. We do not undertake a duty to update these forward-looking statements. Our supplemental information and discussion on this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health00:02:22For such measures, reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measure is available at the end of the supplemental information, at the end of the earnings release, and as part of the Form 8-K filed yesterday with the SEC, all of which are available on our website. I would like to remind everyone that we will adhere to the one question and one follow-up question rule to allow everyone to submit a question. If you have additional questions, please feel free to put yourself back in the queue. With that, I'll turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Mark Tarr. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:02:57Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Our Q4 performance was again very strong, capping a stellar 2025. Our 2025 revenue increased 10.5%, driven by 6% discharge growth and pricing growth, benefiting from patient mix and patient outcome quality. 2025 EBITDA grew 14.9% as we gained operating leverage and exercised disciplined expense management. Most notably, premium labor spend in 2025 declined by more than $21 million from 2024, even as we added capacity and significantly increased the number of patients we treated. Our quality and patient outcome scores for 2025 were outstanding. Our full year discharge to community rate was 84.6%, discharge to acute care was 8.6%, and discharge to SNF rate was 6.1%. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:04:07Each of these quality metrics is favorable compared to the industry average. I'd like to recognize our clinicians and support staff who bring their expertise and compassion to our hospitals every day and deliver outstanding patient care. We continue to generate attractive returns from the investments we are making in capacity additions. In 2025, we added 517 beds, 390 via eight new hospitals, and 127 through the addition of beds to existing hospitals. We will continue investing in capacity additions as the underlying growth in the target demographic remains at approximately 4%, and the demand-supply gap of licensed IRF beds continues to widen. We'll be augmenting our historical two-pronged approach to capacity expansion, de novos and bed additions, with a third modality, small format hospitals, beginning in 2027. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:05:19This will facilitate a hub and spoke strategy to larger and growing markets. In October, we converted our enterprise resource planning, or ERP, system to Oracle Fusion without significant disruptions to our business. Fusion provides us a flexible and sustainable cloud-based IT infrastructure to support our growing business. We are keenly aware of market anxiety regarding IRF industry regulatory changes, specifically the extension of RCD and the initiation of the TEAM model. Beginning with RCD. During 2025, we undertook significant engagement with Palmetto and CMS to ensure correct and consistent application of reimbursement criteria. Our seven hospitals in Alabama currently have an aggregate average affirmation rate of approximately 93% for cycle four, which we believe validates our admissions and documentation practices. Leveraging our experience in Alabama, we believe we are prepared for the expansion of RCD into Texas and California this year. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:06:44The MACs responsible for our hospitals in these states are Novitas and Noridian. Novitas, the MAC responsible for most of our hospitals in Texas, has gained substantial expertise with RCD in Pennsylvania, where providers have achieved very favorable affirmation rates. As RCD extends to other states and we elect 100% prepayment review, affirmation of our claims should reduce our exposure to other Medicare claims audits. The TEAM model implementation began on January 1st. Encompass has 89 hospitals in the initial TEAM markets, 41 of which are joint ventures with acute care partners. As a reminder, there is no downside risk to the subject acute care hospitals in 2026 under the default track. As we have consistently done with all regulatory changes, we have prepared extensively for TEAM. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:07:54It is another episodic payment pilot, similar to previous models such as CJR and BPCI or BPCI, versions of which have been continuously in place since 2014. In those prior cases, concerns regarding the impact to our patient flows were greatly overstated. The presence of these models notwithstanding, with the exception of 2020, for obvious reasons, we have recorded positive total and same-store discharge growth every year. Regulatory change is a constant in our business, and we have a long track record of successfully adapting and continuing to grow as the underlying demand for IRF services continues to grow. Our strategic relationship with Palantir continues to bear fruit. In 2025, we focused on initiatives that streamlined admission documentation and enhanced our responses to claims denials. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:09:04We recently extended and expanded our agreement with Palantir and look forward to additional successes in 2026 and beyond. In 2025, in addition to substantial investments we made in our operations, we allocated $158 million to share repurchases and returned in excess of $70 million in cash dividends. We maintain a strong balance sheet with year-end net financial leverage of 1.9x. The need for the services we provide has never been greater and is growing. We are uniquely positioned to fill the void. We are incredibly proud of our recent historical performance, but we do not rest on our laurels or focus. Our focus is on the future, which for Encompass Health, is very bright. Our company has never before been presented with greater opportunity, and we have never been better positioned to capitalize. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:10:14Our expectation for continued growth is reflected in our initial 2026 guidance. I'll now turn it over to Doug to provide some additional details on Q4 and the specifics of our 2026 guidance. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:10:32Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Q4 revenue increased 9.9% to $1.5 billion, and adjusted EBITDA increased 15.9% to $335.6 million. The revenue increase was comprised of 5.3% discharge growth and a 4.1% increase in net revenue per discharge. Net revenue per discharge benefited from a $2.7 million settlement with a managed care payer related to prior year claims. Bad debt expense for the quarter was 2.1%, flat on a year-over-year basis. Q4 SWB per FTE increased 2.1%. Premium labor cost, comprised of contract labor and sign-on and shift bonuses, declined $5.8 million from Q4 2024 to $23.8 million. This is the lowest since the first quarter of 2021. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:11:36Contract labor FTEs as a percent of total FTEs was 1.1%, also the lowest since the first quarter of 2021. Benefits, benefits expense per FTE increased 2.9% as we anniversaried the large increase in group medical expense experienced in Q4 of last year. Net reopening and ramp-up costs were $2.9 million in Q4 2025, bringing our full-year total to $13.9 million. Q4 net costs were lower than expected, as four of our 8 hospitals opened during 2025, contributed positive adjusted EBITDA during the quarter, and the losses for our hospitals opened during Q4 were less than budgeted, in part due to faster Medicare certifications. We continue to generate significant free cash flow. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:12:36Q4 adjusted free cash flow increased 23.6% to $235.4 million, bringing our 2025 full year total to $818 million, an increase of 18.5% from 2024. The strength of our cash flow allowed us to fund $736 million of capital expenditures, $158 million in share repurchases, and $71 million in cash dividends, while holding long-term debt essentially flat on a year-over-year basis. Our year-end net leverage ratio of 1.9x connotes substantial flexibility for continuing investments in our business, augmented with shareholder distributions. Moving on to guidance. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:13:29Our 2026 guidance includes net operating revenue of $6.365 billion-$6.465 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $1.34 billion-$1.38 billion, and adjusted earnings per share of $5.81-$6.10. The key considerations underlying our guidance can be found on page 11 of the supplemental slides. With that, we'll now open the lines for Q&A. Operator00:14:06Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, if you do have any questions or comments, please press star one on your telephone. If you find your question has been addressed, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. Once again, star one for questions. We'll go first this morning to Matthew Gillmor of KeyBank. Matthew, please go ahead. Your line is open. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:14:25Morning, Matt. Matthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBank00:14:27Hey, good morning. I thought I might ask a couple of questions on the volume front. The way volumes evolved this year was, you know, stronger in the first half and then moderate a little bit in the back half. I think there were some comp issues you talked about last call. I was curious if you could sort of flesh those out and then help us think through any comp issues we should be thinking about during 2026, especially the dynamic of the de novos rolling into the same store base and that timing issue. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:14:58Yeah. So certainly, in the back half of the year, we were up against some pretty challenging comps. Q3 2024 total discharges were up 8.8%, and 6.8% of that was in same store. And then in similar fashion, when you moved into Q4 of last year, we were up 8.3% in terms of total discharges, and 5.8% of that was in same store. It was also the case that with regard to contributions from new stores, we were more skewed towards the back end of this year, with new hospitals coming on board. You may recall that we had one hospital that opened in the last week of the third quarter, and then three hospitals that opened in the fourth quarter, one in each month. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:15:43And then there was the issue of the unit consolidations and closures that we talked about last quarter. And so as a reminder, we had two units, one in Sewickley, Pennsylvania, and one in Cincinnati, Ohio. Those were spaces that were leased from a host acute care hospital. For various reasons, we terminated the lease, and we anticipate that we'll consolidate that volume into another hospital in the market, but there's a period of time in which that's not happening. We estimated that that was a headwind of about 30 basis points to total and same-store discharge in Q3. I think I made the comment in Q3 that we anticipated a similar level in Q4. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:16:27What I failed to take account of when I made that statement was the fact that Cincinnati actually closed relatively late in Q3, so we had a full quarter impact in Q4, and so the impact in Q4 was probably closer to 45 basis points. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:16:43Matt, I think it's worth noting, just in terms of our track record on bringing on our de novos. You know, last year was a good example of how if we can get the Medicare survey quicker than having a long drag out waiting period for them to come in and do the survey, it certainly benefits us. Our TEAMs are doing a great job getting these hospital staffed, getting the word out in the marketplaces. Our design and construction has done the same thing. There are a lot of factors outside of our control as you go through these startup processes, but our team's just done a really nice job in delivering these hospitals pretty much when the due dates are there. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:17:26So, that has benefited from us, and our continued planning and execution. Matthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBank00:17:34Got it. Understood. And then as a follow-up, I thought I might get a comment or two on, on the payer mix. It seemed like the Medicare fee-for-service mix was a little bit higher in the fourth quarter. Is there something you'd attribute that to? And if, if you had any comments on just sort of the, the growth across different payer classes, that would be great. Thanks. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:17:52Yeah, fee-for-service growth was strong in the fourth quarter. That's good because that's our best payer. We did experience some challenges with regard to Medicare Advantage in the fourth quarter, and it was specifically with one national payer, where we saw the conversion rate drop not insignificantly in the fourth quarter. I'm not going to name names right now. I will tell you that if this persists into next year, we may be inclined to name names. The referrals within that specific Medicare Advantage plan were actually up nicely, high single digits for the quarter. But the conversion rate, which is the ratio of admits to referrals, was down significantly, and there's no reason for that. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:18:38Again, as we looked at the underlying nature of those referrals, they were consistent with the referrals we were getting across the system and across payers. And so what that translates into is, for whatever reason, that plan elected to start denying care to a segment of the Medicare beneficiary population, which we believe is in direct contravention of Medicare coverage requirements. We're going to be undertaking some specific actions to address that as we move into Q1. That includes maintaining active communication with the subject plan and also with CMS, regarding what we view as this non-compliance with the Medicare coverage requirements. As we did in the fourth quarter, we think that there's going to be an opportunity to backfill with IRF-appropriate patients covered by fee-for-service, other MA plans, and the continued growth in our veterans community care network. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:19:32We will ensure, in terms of doing our own part, that our clinical liaisons are responding timely to all referrals and doing so with high-quality medical necessity documentation. There's probably an opportunity to enhance that process with some AI tools, and we're going to be implementing an admit and appeal strategy on those MA denials that we believe are clearly in contravention of the Medicare coverage requirements. And then finally, we'll make sure that we continue to reinforce the value proposition for IRFs with the Medicare beneficiaries, under, making sure they understand the right of choice that they have, with referral sources, with respective patients, and also with families and caregivers. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:20:18Hey, Matt, this is Pat. Just to add a couple of points to what Doug said. So one of the call-outs he made was on the VA program. We've talked about that before. We continue to drive that initiative and have scaled up some best practices and education across our company, and really pleased with the results. So that has now grown to represent 19% of our managed care volume. Our third consecutive quarter of discharge growth in that segment, over 20% on the quarter, finishing around 25% to bring the year to 22% growth. We continue to see a lot of upside in that segment, and it's a great opportunity for us to provide IRF access to veterans. The other point that I'll make is on the MA admit and appeal strategy. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:21:07We've never really undertaken such an effort before. And, you know, two of the major payers have, Medicare, excuse me, have conversion rates below 20%. And what we're gonna do in a couple of these markets is, if the patient meets Medicare coverage criteria, we're gonna admit those patients, and we're gonna go through the different levels of appeal process. There's five levels of administrative appeal, all the way to the ALJ and federal district court, where we're gonna advocate for access to care. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:21:45These issues with this particular MA plan notwithstanding, and they're really not new, we've seen them pop up from time to time. There is a significant population of IRF-appropriate patients who are still not being treated in IRFs, and so there's the pond for us to fish out of is plenty big. Matthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBank00:22:05Got it. Thanks for the details. Operator00:22:09Thank you. We'll go next now to Ann Hynes with Mizuho Securities. Ann, please go ahead. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:22:14Good morning, Ann. Ann HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho Securities00:22:15Yeah, good morning. Thank you for all the detail on some of the regulatory unknowns. That was very helpful. Can you tell us just, like, how these pilots usually play out? Like, I know the TEAM pilot, five years, 2030, 2020, 2032. What typically happens after that pilot program? Like, do most of these pilots just kinda die out, or are they implemented nationally? If you can give us some examples, that would be great. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:22:43You know, and if you go back and even back to 2016, 2015, with the plans I mentioned, the BPCI, CJR, there was a little bit of both in terms of people required to do it or voluntarily got into it. You saw some people really go into it strong, kind of what I refer to on the bleeding edge. Then you saw a lot of systems kind of wait and see what happens and didn't want to get out there too far. I think it's the nice thing about our ability to work with our joint venture partners in these markets where TEAM will come out. We have a very collaborative approach. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:23:24Pat and his team have been out talking to all the major systems in our markets impacted to see what their plans are and also to bring forth our value proposition, because there's a big quality factor in TEAMs that where the acute care hospitals will be penalized for readmissions. So that's a big part of the value that we bring in to that. So I think that in large part, as I noted, there is typically an overreaction in terms of what people think will be the impact on our facilities. And with time, as noted, we just continue to grow through them because there are enough patients that would fall outside these plans that could benefit from the care that we provide. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:24:17So I'll ask Pat just to talk a little bit about what he and his team have done, I think specifically in the Boston marketplace, where we have some TEAM introduction. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:24:29... Hey, and this is Pat. Thanks, Mark. So just to reinforce what Mark said around TEAM and to get at part of your question. So if you look back to BPCI and BPCI Advanced, both of them were five-year programs. They were not expanded after the five years. And if you look between those two models and then CJR, we added or acquired approximately 4,500 beds during that time. So significant growth in spite of those models. So there's really three things that I'll point out to you. Aside from the VA strategy, which is a nice opportunity for us to continue to backfill any potential impact. And aside from patient choice remaining, first is we've had a lot of conversations in our marketplace, as Mark mentioned, Boston. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:25:23Two of our largest potential impacted hospitals are in the Boston marketplace. And, frankly, we're not hearing a whole lot of chatter from them or our JV partners on that they're going to handle patients differently. In fact, they remain very focused on quality, length of stay, capacity, constraints, and readmissions, and those are all elements of our value proposition that we have executed on for decades to their benefit. Second, you know, and Doug touched on this, there's substantial opportunity for us to backfill potential volume with other diagnostic categories. So if you think about stroke, brain injury, neuro, cardiac, and pulmonary, those are patient categories where people are still twice as likely to end up in a nursing home than in an inpatient rehab hospital. So we've put a lot of effort into working to increase our market capture there. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:26:21Then third, you know, from a TEAM perspective, patients on dialysis with end-stage renal disease are exempt from TEAM. About 4% of our volume currently falls into this bucket, but through our investments in Tablo, where we have almost 70% of our hospitals covered with Tablo, and then the remainder with external dialysis. We have the capacity to slightly more than double that volume across our portfolio based on current utilization. So there's a lot of opportunity for us to backfill volume with IRF-appropriate patients across other diagnosis categories or within the TEAM impacted groups as well. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:27:02At the risk of piling on, I'll just add a couple of things. First, our anecdotal evidence, and this has been consistent for multiple months right now, as we canvass the acute care hospitals in the impacted markets, is that there is very little focus on TEAM from those, those hospitals. It's perhaps not surprising because they face such, such substantially larger issues with regard to what's going to happen on Medicaid supplemental payments and what's going to happen with regard to the extension or the lack thereof of any ACA subsidies. Further, as we drilled down and looked at the target prices that have been set for these conditions in the impacted markets, in almost all cases, regardless of the patient's condition, those target prices cannot be achieved unless the patient bypasses a post-acute inpatient stay, IRF or SNF altogether, and goes directly to the home. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:28:00The only way that that can be safely accomplished is if you increase the length of stay in the acute care hospital, and doing so by even a couple of days, would completely erase any of the participation in the risk corridor. Ann HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho Securities00:28:17Mm-hmm. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:28:19Ann, one last comment on this. We've done an analysis early. It's one month, but there's been no impact of TEAM-associated diagnoses categories within our TEAM-impacted markets, so it's really been no impact to volume. Ann HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho Securities00:28:34Great. Thank you for all the detail. Operator00:28:38Thank you. We'll go next now to Andrew Mok of Barclays. Andrew, please go ahead. Andrew MokDirector at Barclays00:28:44Hi, good morning. There was a pretty meaningful beat on labor costs in the quarter, with improvements in both wage wage growth and EPOB. Can you help us understand the drivers of that in the context of moderating volume growth? Thanks. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:28:58Hey, Andrew. Just real quick, I think it's kinda twofold. And I'll ask Pat to talk specific about premium pay. But you know, I think we're seeing you know, some softening in the labor markets as a whole, which has been a positive thing for us for the last year or so. And then I think secondly, while we've always been very disciplined around the use of premium pay and managing our staffing ratios, Pat has really dug in with his team to look at some of the outliers we had within our portfolio, and it's been meaningful. So, Pat, you want to give some detail? Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:29:37Yeah, and, and I'll give credit to, to a few different groups here. So first, you know, our operators have done a tremendous job, both bringing in, excuse me, bringing down turnover. You know, RN turnover continues to drop. It's at pre-pandemic levels, and at the same time, our centralized talent acquisition team continues to do a tremendous job on the hiring front. So we added, from a same-store, perspective, 300 net RNs in 2025, and that brings our four-year total up to around 1,700. So just a tremendous job to both of those groups there. You know, we, we feel like, there is, while the rate of improvement will slow, that we have an opportunity to, to potentially narrow the gap in variation in some of our, higher-utilizing markets on premium pay in particular. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:30:29Our 10 most challenged markets, which represent a significant portion of our spend. We are substantially increasing our efforts from our recruiting team as well as recruitment marketing, to try to get at those markets where hiring has been a little slower. In particular, you know, I'll point out that all the growth that we've had in the de novo markets, we have opened those without contract labor. So we are taking some of the resources that we would use to open a hospital and staff a hospital, and we're gonna apply that approach to these more challenged markets as well. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:31:12On the EPOB front, you know, there, while there is some small timing impact as de novo is ramping, you know, we are relentless in our pursuit of operational discipline across our regions and in our local markets. And we do that in a way that does not sacrifice quality outcomes or clinical excellence. Mark talked about our discharge outcomes. We had records in 2025 of our discharge outcomes as well as patient satisfaction. So we were able to get at these additional efficiencies, and we'll continue to work towards those without sacrificing anything on the clinical front. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:31:52Then just to go through the specifics on the Q4 labors, as we mentioned, total SWB per FTE in Q4 was up 2.1%. The composition of that, core SW, which does not include contract labor for FTE, was up 2.8%. Benefits, again, anniversary, the substantial increase in Q4 of last year was up 2.9%, and premium labor was down year-over-year $5.8 million. The EPOB came in at 3.38. That was better than our expectation, and that was largely attributable to the faster ramp-up of the de novos that opened in 2025. And as we cited during our, our comments previously, that was boosted in Q4 by the fact that we got our Medicare certifications on those openings faster than we had anticipated. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:32:43We don't control that, so we can't guarantee it's gonna happen on future openings, but it was a lift in Q4. Importantly, we were able to achieve all of these things with regard to our labor cost, while holding nursing turnover at 20.2% for the year and therapy turnover at 7.8%. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:33:03One last comment here, that I failed to mention is, you know, we have talked about this before, but we have made a substantial investment in the development of clinical ladders and tweaking those to increase participation, because if we can get a clinician on the ladder, their turnover is about a third of what a non-laddered clinician is. And I’m really, again, proud of our operators. We have our nursing participation up to 32%, 36% of our therapists, and 47% of our nurse techs are participating on our clinical ladders. Again, we still see upside here, but we’re really pleased with our progress. Andrew MokDirector at Barclays00:33:44Great. And just to clarify, the better labor and preopening, the Medicare certifications coming in earlier, that's what's driving the better-than-expected preopening costs, correct? Is there anything else? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:33:57No. Again, you had not only that impact from Q4, which was predominantly where it was, but the performance of the de novos that opened in 2025, prior to Q4, in Q4 was favorable, and we cited a number of those. Four of those actually had positive four-wall EBITDA in Q4. Andrew MokDirector at Barclays00:34:18Great. Thank you. Operator00:34:22Thank you. We'll go next now to Pito Chickering of Deutsche Bank. Pito, please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:34:27Morning, Pito. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:34:29Morning, Pito. Pito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche Bank00:34:29Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions here. So I want to apologize in advance for this one, but I want to go in the weeds and talk about the Alabama RCD experience. From a process perspective, can you explain with a 93% affirmation rate, what happens with the 7% of claims that weren't affirmed? When you appeal that 7%, what percentage of those are you winning? And when you appeal to the administrative law judge level, what percentage of those are you winning? So at the end of the day, after you appeal and go to the ALJ, what % of these claims do you guys need to reserve for? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:35:08Well, you weren't lying. You are down in the weeds. Let me, let me first kind of pull us up a little bit, and then I'll see if I can get down to that level. So, you know, first of all, there's a perception out there that both TEAM and RCD represent new risks to IRFs. And, and Mark referred to some of this. In our opinion, they do not. They are ordinary course of business. We have lived continuously with episodic payment models since 2014, and CMS has always had the right to audit 100% of IRF Medicare claims on both a prepayment and a post-payment basis. And they have done so under a series of programs such as TPE, ADR, RAC, SMRC, et cetera. RCD is just a new acronym for the same old thing. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:36:06The Medicare coverage requirements under RCD have not changed, the documentation requirements under RCD have not changed, and the third parties performing the RCD audits have not changed. The potential upside to RCD is that if we choose to remain on 100% review, and Mark alluded to this in his comments, it potentially obviates the other audit programs. Moving specifically to Alabama, 93% is the current affirmation rate for the seven hospitals in Alabama, where we're dealing with a difficult MAC, who continues to non-affirm claims for reasons that are in contravention of Medicare coverage requirements and guidelines. As a result, we appeal the overwhelming majority of non-affirm claims through the multiple levels available to us. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:37:01And although it's still early to call the ultimate resolution rate because those claims are still pending, and because the sample size is relatively small, we're having good success reversing the denials. We continue to educate Palmetto, and we continue to involve CMS, and we believe that it is more likely than not that, that 93% affirmation rate moves up. When we look at the Pennsylvania experience, it covers more hospitals, and we believe that that rate, 98%-99%, is more representative of where a broadly adjudicated RCD program will land. And so all of that suggests to us that the go-forward bad debt expense rate that we experience is gonna be consistent with our recent historical experience, thus the 2%-2.5% number that is included in our 2026 guidance. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:37:58Uh, just- Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:37:59Okay. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:37:59One quick addition on RCD in Alabama, not necessarily on the bad debt front, but just on the volume and occupancy front. So, it virtually, again, no impact here. We have expansions that will be underway at three of our Alabama hospitals. We're gonna be filing for the CON for three additional expansions. So that covers six of the seven hospitals in the state. So, on the volume side, unimpacted. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:38:29Look, Palmetto is a pain in the butt in Alabama. They were a pain in the butt before RCD. Pito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche Bank00:38:37Okay, fair enough. That's a pretty, pretty honest response. A follow-up question that you talked about earlier, I think you said that the referrals were up high single digits, but admissions were way down. Can you talk about generally what you see from MA on conversion rates from where that went this quarter, and then from a legal perspective, how much leeway does MA have to deny post-acute care? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:39:03Yeah. So I'll start and then maybe pass it over to, to Pat. So, you know, historically, our, our total MA conversion rates have run between 25% and 30%, and that's gonna compare to Medicare fee-for-service, which is the same, patient population, subject to the same Medicare coverage requirements, which is run in the mid-60%. And so that's been a problem all along. Particular payer, who shall remain nameless for at least this quarter, has always been our lowest conversion rate, but they dropped by about 500 basis points, in the quarter. You know, there, this is again, in, in contravention of Medicare requirements, so we do have the ability to take this directly to CMS. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:39:51Because the change was so material in Q4, our first order of business is going to be to try to work directly with the plan itself and say, "Is there something different? Is there something that we can do better to try to do that in partnership?" But we're not going to wait and to see the effect of that before we get more aggressive with this admit and appeal strategy that Pat outlined just a bit earlier. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:40:17What I would add to that is, MA is required to operate with the same coverage criteria as traditional fee-for-service Medicare. They're allowed to have a prior auth requirement, which they do, but they are supposed to adhere to that same coverage criteria. And what we see on a daily basis, and that's—this is not new, is the failure to adhere to that Medicare coverage criteria. So, you know, we have typically taken that in stride, and it's been a frustration for our referral sources, it's been a frustration for us, and, and most importantly, it's been a frustration for the seniors in this country that deserve our level of care. So, you know, we have decided that we're, we're—there's no teeth to the Medicare requirement right now, that they have to do that. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:41:12So, you know, we're in a position and on a... where we're gonna pilot this, and we're gonna take these claims that are in alignment with Medicare coverage criteria, through the administrative appeal process, through the ALJ and potentially beyond. And, you know, we're optimistic, you know, we feel like the facts are on our side here, and more importantly, we're really interested in making sure that seniors have access to our level of care in this country. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:41:45I think it's important to note as well, perhaps another silver lining out of RCD, is that the affirmation rates that we're seeing in Alabama and that the others are seeing in Pennsylvania suggest that under fee-for-service, which has that much higher conversion rate, the overwhelming majority of patients are appropriate for IRF care, which means that those that are being denied that access by Medicare Advantage are being done so, again, in contravention of Medicare coverage requirements. Pito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche Bank00:42:19Great. Thanks so much, guys. Operator00:42:22We'll go next now to Whit Mayo of Leerink Partners. Whit, please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:42:26Morning, Whit. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:42:27Hello, Whit. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:42:29Hello. Whit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:42:29Hey, guys. Doug, just wanted to take your temperature on leverage and how you're thinking about the appropriate target. You're gonna probably drift below 1.5x soon. Just any thoughts on upping the dividend more, stepping up buybacks on a permanent basis, maybe buying up leases? Just any updated views would be helpful. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:42:51... Yeah. So, maybe what we can do is kind of use our guidance 2026 as a proxy for what things might look like. So if you look at our free cash flow assumptions, the midpoint of those assumptions is right at about $828 million. Again, using the midpoint of other ranges within our growth CapEx, that's at $725 million. The dividend at its current level is $77 million. So that would suggest, again, if we are achieving our midpoint of EBITDA guidance and our midpoint of the free cash flow, that we would fund those uses internally and still have about $25 million of cash. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:43:37That would leave us, all other things equal, at the end of 2026, with a leverage ratio of 1.83x. That implies, even if you wanted to be conservative and leave leverage at, say, 2x, that there would be capacity for another $230 million-$250 million of buybacks or other distributions. There really aren't other opportunities to buy back leases. So I think to the extent that we generate excess cash and have capacity within the leverage ratio, the most likely utilization of that is going to be additional share repurchases and increases in the dividend. Whit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:44:20Okay. And then, we haven't heard much about malpractice from you guys. Some of the other providers have been talking about it more. Just how did that develop in 2025? Thoughts on 2026. You've got this new reasonable care standard change, I think, with malpractice. Does this, you know, change your views at all, how you're thinking about it? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:44:43Yeah, we've seen no significant change in our GPL activity from 2024 to 2025. Whit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:44:55Okay. Well, thank you. Operator00:44:59Thank you. We'll go next now to A.J. Rice of UBS. A.J., please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:45:04Morning, AJ. Analyst at UBS00:45:06Hi, this is James on for A.J. Thank you for taking my question. I just wondered if you can give us some color on the rationale behind the changing development as you look to add these small format hospitals, and what advantages this type of hospital provides versus the traditional de novos? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:45:25Yeah. So it's the confluence of design and opportunity, maybe with a dose of necessity tossed in. And so from a design perspective, historically, we had had trouble coming up with an economically feasible model that would be in the size range that we're talking about. But as we have ascended the learning curve with regard to our de novos, really over the past five or so years, and been able to incorporate more in the way of prefabricated construction, whether in a hybrid model or fully, it's helped us kind of crack the code on this 24-bed prototype. It solves an issue for us where we've got one of two situations. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:46:14One is we've got an existing hospital in a market that doesn't have any more physical ability to expand, and yet the demand of the market suggests that more beds are needed. And so this is an economically feasible way of adding more capacity into that market, even on a chassis that can't be expanded. It's also the case that as we find in a lot of larger metropolitan markets, in Dallas and Houston and Tampa, are three that come immediately to mind, that the overall market is growing, but based on traffic patterns and based on the growth in specific neighborhoods or geographies, the additional beds might best be positioned elsewhere in the market as opposed to in the existing hospital. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:47:03So again, the standard format that we have come up with, and the first will open in 2027, is we acquire 2-2.5 acres based on specific topography. It is a single story, 24-bed chassis. It has got a smaller kitchen because there's no food preparation on site. Obviously, the gym is smaller because we've got a fewer number of patients, and we're able to leverage the management team and the marketing resources associated with the host hospital, so the returns are very favorable. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:47:38You know, it's a market density is a big part of the strategy. Not only you get scale from staff, but you get a brand recognition in the marketplace, which helps us with staffing, as you have the employees in the workforce out there starts to become more and more familiar with Encompass Health. We've seen that in markets. It gives us an opportunity to provide growth opportunities for our existing staff and management team. So that helps with retention. It also decreases the risk as we add another location in the marketplace. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:48:17So we think there are a lot of benefits from the small format hospital, and as I noted, it's just yet another modality that we have to add capacity in a marketplace where the need is pointing out the required capacity. So we've got some strong plans going out in the future on this, and we think it's going to be really helpful as we expand that capacity. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:48:45And it's important to note that because all of these small format hospitals will be remote locations, meaning that they are tied to a host hospital, they operate under the same Medicare provider number, which in almost all cases means that managed care contracts and so forth can be extended and don't have to be renegotiated. It also means that you're not subject to another Medicare certification, and so you don't have to do the 30 free patients in the ramp up there. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:49:14This is Pat. I would also add that we do have three locations right now. They're not technically what we would consider a small format hospital, but they operate like it. And they drive impressive results and returns. So we do have some experience with this operating model. This is a great way for us to scale this across the country. We have dozens of potential locations that we're going to be looking at for consideration. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:49:48You know, we talked about growing or underserved, excuse me, large or growing markets, but underserved or fringe markets where we have a hospital are also candidates for this because you may have someone within 30—a location within 30 mi that does not have the density of a new requirement for a new hospital, but they could benefit from a smaller location, and we'd still be able to get the leverage that both Mark and Doug have talked about. So we're really excited about this. I think it's going to be a big part of our strategy moving forward and a nice way for us to not only help patients, but increase our returns as well. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:50:30Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:50:34Thank you. We'll go next now to Joanna Gajuk of Bank of America. Joanna, please go ahead. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:50:40Hi, Joanna. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:50:41Oh, yes. Hi. Hey, how are you? Thanks for squeezing me in here. So I guess I have, I have two questions. So one, I want to start a follow-up on the TEAM discussion, and then I have a question on volume. So first on the TEAM, so thanks for sizing up the exposure here. So 2% of volume seems very manageable, and you expect to be able to replace any lost volume. So that's good. But just a couple of questions, you know, as we try to like do some math, maybe in the future, too. So are these procedures that is included, right, in the TEAM model, in the 5 categories, are those coming at average revenue per discharge that's much different than average? You know, any kind of direction would be helpful here. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:51:25Sounds like, I just want to clarify, you don't have so much of an impact, I guess, to bottom line this year, but I just want to make sure, like, is there some sort of a number, you know, in terms of EBITDA headwind that you included in your 2026 guidance? And with that comment around, you know, the acute hospitals are not taking risk in year one, but would you expect, you know, things to change dramatically over time as these hospitals, you know, take more risks in the future years? Thanks. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:51:56So, Joanna, this is Doug. I'm going to start with the margin, then I'm going to turn it over to Pat for the balance. So, there is no real stratification of margin or real diversion of margin across our patient categories. And so it is true that reimbursement is tied to RIC into patient acuity, but when you drill down to the specific patient level, you also have to factor in things like comorbidity. And whereas you may be getting a higher reimbursement for a more acute patient, that is in part due to the fact, or large part, due to the fact that that patient requires more intense care and typically comes with a lower, with a longer length of stay. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:52:41So no real distinction between the margin profile of the patients that will be subject potentially to this demonstration and to our other patients. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:52:53Thanks, Doug. So Joanna, this is Pat. I would say from a margin perspective, Doug is absolutely correct. No, we're not foreseeing any impact on margin. From a net revenue per discharge perspective, it's almost each of these are in line with our average net revenue per discharge. The only two that have slightly higher, and I mean slightly higher, are the ones associated with fractures. So lower extremity with fracture and then hip fracture. But again, we're not anticipating for this to be material. It's all reflected in our 2026 guidance, and we feel really good about our opportunities to backfill. The only other point that I'll make on TEAM is the majority of our team impacted markets have less than, well, 39 of the 89 have less than 10 discharges tied to TEAM's diagnoses. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:53:49Almost all of our TEAM impact is tied to 50 markets, and half of those are joint ventures. So again, we've reflected this in our guidance. We're really, we think we're prepared to mitigate this if issues come up, but we're really just not hearing of any changes in referrals or admissions in our markets. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:54:12I will note also, just further on the margin issue, part of the reason that you get to that parity with our average revenue per discharge on those particular categories that are subject to TEAM is because those specific patients have more comorbidities. That would make them less likely to actually be a participant within the TEAM model in terms of diverting their care away from the IRF, because they really need to be in that intense setting. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:54:39Okay, that makes sense. And if I may, one question on volumes. I don't think you talk about some breakdown in terms of just the categories. In the past, you would talk about, you know, sort of the cardiology, neurology, orthopedic cases in the quarter. So if you can give us that color, that would be helpful. Thank you. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:54:59Well, we provide patient mix every quarter. You know, and we've provided the 2%. It's not a direct equation. It's convenient to try to look at this in isolation and just say, "I'm gonna pick those RICS and assume that that's an estimate for the volume that's in those categories." But that's missing two other things. One is the presence of comorbidities that is going to be an element that clinicians make in deciding the appropriate course of care. And the second is, let's say that you even had an acute care hospital that was extremely committed to all elements of TEAM. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:55:41Again, the only way that they would be able to achieve the target price in many instances is by increasing the length of stay so that they would have a patient who could safely bypass any inpatient, post-acute inpatient setting. If they do that, the likelihood is that they would be looking for non-TEAM patients where they could reduce the length of stay, and that has been one of the key elements of our value proposition all along, which is the ability to take a more acute patient with a shorter length of stay in the acute care hospital, so there'd be offsetting volume there. So it's the TEAM is not something that will happen in isolation. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:56:21Joanna, if you're talking about overall volume and just on a RIC basis, we did see nice growth and brain injury up 8.7%, cardiac up 5.1%, neuro 4.5%. Major trauma was up 5%, and stroke was up 3.8%. So again, broad-based growth across diagnosis categories. From a mix perspective, with brain injury being our third largest discharge RIC category, that was up 40 basis points to be our largest mover. So again, that's something we're pretty excited about, especially given that it's not a TEAM-impacted diagnosis. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:57:05Okay, thank you so much for the call. Thanks. Operator00:57:08Thank you. We'll go next now to Brian Tanquilut of Jefferies. Brian, please go ahead. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:57:15Hey, Brian. Brian TanquilutSenior Analyst in Healthcare Services, and HCIT/Digital Health Equity Research at Jefferies00:57:15Good morning. Congrats, yeah. Good morning. Congrats on the quarter, and thanks for squeezing me in. Maybe, Mark, as I think about concerns that are emerging on Medicare Advantage rates and how that could potentially translate to payer pressure on providers, I mean, how are you thinking about that dynamic? Then, how—what are those discussions like with payers as you think about your scale and local market power? Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:57:38You know, we always lead with our outcomes, Brian, and it's part of our value proposition, and I don't see that changing going forward. I think, you know, the concerns, particularly if you think about just TEAM and some of the—and certainly with the payers, the quality aspect and concerns around readmission rates back to the acute care hospitals, it really puts the premium on a post-acute provider that can take care of these higher acuity patients like we do, and have a low readmission percentage. So, we're very diligent about leading with our data and our outcomes. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:58:18When we go and meet with the payer or the medical director for that payer, it's very helpful that we can show them the differences that we can have with an Encompass Health hospital versus nursing homes or even other IRF providers. So I don't think our strategy on that changes. If anything, we have more data and data sources now than what we did five or 10 years ago, just to help create that competitive advantage for us. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:58:51You know, what is happening out there is the rate of growth in terms of new MA beneficiaries has declined very substantially. And if you listen to some of the dialogue in response to some of the rate updates and so forth coming out of the major plans, they are stating that they're intending to exit more geographies with regard to their MA plans, which is gonna shift those patients over to fee-for-service, and that's not a bad outcome for us. Brian TanquilutSenior Analyst in Healthcare Services, and HCIT/Digital Health Equity Research at Jefferies00:59:21Got it. All right, I'll leave it there, as at that, but over the top of the hour. Thanks. Operator00:59:27Thank you. We'll go next now to Jared Haase of William Blair. Jared, please go ahead. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:59:33Morning, Jared. Jared? Jared HaaseEquity Research Associate at William Blair00:59:35Hey. Hey, good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in here at the end. Maybe I'll just stick to one as well. You mentioned the expanded relationship with Palantir, so I'll ask on the technology front. Sounds like you've had some wins around administrative work and, and revenue cycle management. I guess two questions. Number one, just be curious if there's any kind of quick ways to quantify sort of cost savings or other metrics that you track, in terms of that deployment. And then, as you think about expanding that initiative, is that still broadly around areas that, you know, I would bucket under, let's say, revenue cycle management, or are you seeing other areas of the business to optimize, maybe around clinical care or patient experience? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:00:14Yeah. So on the first, it is difficult to assign a specific ROI to the work that they're doing, but hopefully, what it's gonna mean is that our success on claims denials is gonna continue to improve. The manpower that we need to process those denials is gonna decrease and can be shifted elsewhere. So there are gonna be some real tangible benefits. In terms of new projects that we're working on, we are gonna be focusing on CRM, market analysis, specifically to help us identify the optimal strategy for positioning in a market, in terms of de novos with expansion capabilities, and the use of small-format hospitals. Revenue cycle management is something that we'll be looking at later this year, and clinical staffing is another one that's on the table. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health01:01:12... Just to add to that, you know, we're looking for opportunities on the upside to enhance and elevate our clinicians. You talked about clinical care and patient experience in your question. I think that is certainly goals of ours. You know, people don't go to medical school or nursing school or therapy school to become great at documenting and document for half of their shift. So we'll continue to evaluate opportunities to allow our clinicians to do what they do best, and that's take care of patients. Jared HaaseEquity Research Associate at William Blair01:01:48Okay, great. I appreciate all the color, and I'll leave it there. Operator01:01:53Thank you. We'll go next now to Raj Kumar of Stephens. Raj, please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:01:57Hey, good morning, Raj. Raj KumarEquity Research Analyst at Stephens01:01:59Hey, good morning. Thank you for squeezing me in. Just, one quick one. As we kind of think about in the first quarter and, you know, and maybe any potential impacts from the winter storm, I see that in your disclosures that one of the facilities that may have been slated for the first quarter was pushed back to the second quarter. So just curious, maybe if there's anything embedded in guidance related to any potential winter storm impacts and how we should be thinking about that? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:02:24No significant impact from the storm. I do want to call out, we've got two other closures that are going to impact Q1 as well. So the first is that we have operated since we acquired this facility in Lexington, Kentucky, Cardinal Hill. We've operated a 75-bed SNF unit. It's the only one, only SNF unit that we have had. It ran at a low ADC, 25 ADC. Both the beds and the ADC were included in our IRF bed count and discharge number, and that unit basically had zero profitability. We closed that at the end of December, so you're going to have some carryover impact from that. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:03:12You'll have the continued impact, although lessening a bit, from Cincinnati and Sewickley, and then we've got one more unit consolidation that is taking place, and that is we have a unit in Bridgeport, West Virginia, which is in the Morgantown market, that is housed within an acute care hospital. It's at the end of its lease, so we are closing that effective February 28. Unmitigated, meaning not picking up volume elsewhere in the markets as we go into 2026, that creates about a 70 basis point headwind for 2026. Discharge growth, all of which is in same store. We think that we will mitigate somewhere between 35 and 40 basis points of that. Operator01:04:04Great. Thank you for your comment. Thank you. We'll go next now to Parker Snure at Raymond James. Parker, please go ahead. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health01:04:13Morning, Parker. Parker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond James01:04:14Hey, good morning. Hey, good morning, and thanks for squeezing me in. I was just wondering if you could give some detail just on your outlook on provider taxes or supplemental payments. Maybe just remind us your total exposure there, and then just your outlook for 2026, and then maybe some potential upside from the diffuse pending program, one, particularly in Florida, that you may get some benefit from. Maybe just talk broadly about supplemental payments and your thoughts there. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:04:40Yeah. So the EBITDA impact from net provider taxes for this year was about $21 million, and a little over $3 million of that was out of period. I think a core assumption is that that would stay relatively flat as we move into 2026. Parker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond James01:05:04Okay, great. Thank you. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:05:07And by the way, that $21 million compared to an EBITDA contribution of $15.5 million last year, with a comparable amount being out of period. Parker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond James01:05:16Okay, great. Thank you. Operator01:05:20Thank you. Gentlemen, it appears we've answered all the questions today. Mr. Miller, I'd like to turn things back to you, sir, for any closing comments. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health01:05:27Thank you, operator. If anyone has additional questions, please call me at 205-970-5860. Thank you again for joining today's call. Operator01:05:40Thank you, everyone. Again, that does conclude Encompass...Read moreParticipantsExecutivesDoug ColtharpEVP and CFOMark MillerChief Investor Relations OfficerMark TarrPresident and CEOPatrick TuerEVP and COOAnalystsAndrew MokDirector at BarclaysAnn HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho SecuritiesBrian TanquilutSenior Analyst in Healthcare Services, and HCIT/Digital Health Equity Research at JefferiesJared HaaseEquity Research Associate at William BlairJoanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA SecuritiesMatthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBankParker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond JamesPito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche BankRaj KumarEquity Research Analyst at StephensWhit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink PartnersAnalyst at UBSPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Encompass Health Q4 2025 Earnings FAQ Did Encompass Health beat earnings estimates for Q4 2025? Encompass Health (NYSE:EHC) reported earnings of $1.46 per share for Q4 2025, beating the consensus estimate of $1.29. The report was announced on Thursday, February 5, 2026. What was Encompass Health's revenue for Q4 2025? Encompass Health reported revenue of $3.09 billion for Q4 2025, against a consensus estimate of $1.54 billion. Where can I read Encompass Health's Q4 2025 earnings call transcript? The full Encompass Health Q4 2025 earnings conference call transcript is published on this page, including prepared remarks and the analyst Q&A session, along with the participants who spoke on the call. When is Encompass Health's next earnings date? Encompass Health's next earnings date is estimated for Wednesday, October 28, 2026. MarketBeat tracks confirmed and estimated earnings dates for Encompass Health on the company's earnings history page. 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Email Address About Encompass HealthEncompass Health (NYSE:EHC) (NYSE:EHC) is a healthcare services company focused on inpatient rehabilitation. Through its network of rehabilitation hospitals, the company provides intensive medical and therapeutic care to patients recovering from conditions such as strokes, brain and spinal cord injuries, hip fractures, amputations, neurological disorders, and other disabling illnesses or injuries. Its rehabilitation hospitals offer coordinated care from physicians, nurses, therapists, and other healthcare professionals. Services generally include physical, occupational, and speech therapy, along with rehabilitation nursing, medical management, and patient education designed to help individuals regain function and return to independent living. Encompass Health operates rehabilitation hospitals across numerous U.S. states and also serves patients in Puerto Rico. The company was formerly known as HealthSouth Corporation and adopted the Encompass Health name as it concentrated on inpatient rehabilitation following the separation of its home health and hospice operations. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Stand by, your meeting is about to begin. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to today's Encompass Health Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform all participants that their lines will be in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, please press star one on your telephone. You will be limited to one question and one follow-up question. Just a reminder, today's call is being recorded, and if you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Mark Miller, Encompass Health's Chief Investor Relations Officer. Mark, please go ahead. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health00:00:43Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Encompass Health's fourth quarter 2025 earnings call. Before we begin, if you do not already have a copy, the fourth quarter earnings release, supplemental information, and related Form 8-K filed with the SEC are available on our website at encompasshealth.com. On page two of the supplemental information, you will find the safe harbor statements, which are also set forth in greater detail on the last page of the earnings release. During the call, we'll make forward-looking statements such as guidance and growth projections, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health00:01:27Certain risks and uncertainties, like those relating to regulatory developments, as well as volume, bad debt, and cost trends that could cause actual results to differ materially from our projections, estimates, and expectations, are discussed in the company's SEC filings, including the earnings release and related Form 8-K and the Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, when filed. We encourage you to read them. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the estimates, projections, guidance, and other forward-looking information presented, which are based on current estimates of future events and speak only as of today. We do not undertake a duty to update these forward-looking statements. Our supplemental information and discussion on this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health00:02:22For such measures, reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measure is available at the end of the supplemental information, at the end of the earnings release, and as part of the Form 8-K filed yesterday with the SEC, all of which are available on our website. I would like to remind everyone that we will adhere to the one question and one follow-up question rule to allow everyone to submit a question. If you have additional questions, please feel free to put yourself back in the queue. With that, I'll turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Mark Tarr. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:02:57Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Our Q4 performance was again very strong, capping a stellar 2025. Our 2025 revenue increased 10.5%, driven by 6% discharge growth and pricing growth, benefiting from patient mix and patient outcome quality. 2025 EBITDA grew 14.9% as we gained operating leverage and exercised disciplined expense management. Most notably, premium labor spend in 2025 declined by more than $21 million from 2024, even as we added capacity and significantly increased the number of patients we treated. Our quality and patient outcome scores for 2025 were outstanding. Our full year discharge to community rate was 84.6%, discharge to acute care was 8.6%, and discharge to SNF rate was 6.1%. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:04:07Each of these quality metrics is favorable compared to the industry average. I'd like to recognize our clinicians and support staff who bring their expertise and compassion to our hospitals every day and deliver outstanding patient care. We continue to generate attractive returns from the investments we are making in capacity additions. In 2025, we added 517 beds, 390 via eight new hospitals, and 127 through the addition of beds to existing hospitals. We will continue investing in capacity additions as the underlying growth in the target demographic remains at approximately 4%, and the demand-supply gap of licensed IRF beds continues to widen. We'll be augmenting our historical two-pronged approach to capacity expansion, de novos and bed additions, with a third modality, small format hospitals, beginning in 2027. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:05:19This will facilitate a hub and spoke strategy to larger and growing markets. In October, we converted our enterprise resource planning, or ERP, system to Oracle Fusion without significant disruptions to our business. Fusion provides us a flexible and sustainable cloud-based IT infrastructure to support our growing business. We are keenly aware of market anxiety regarding IRF industry regulatory changes, specifically the extension of RCD and the initiation of the TEAM model. Beginning with RCD. During 2025, we undertook significant engagement with Palmetto and CMS to ensure correct and consistent application of reimbursement criteria. Our seven hospitals in Alabama currently have an aggregate average affirmation rate of approximately 93% for cycle four, which we believe validates our admissions and documentation practices. Leveraging our experience in Alabama, we believe we are prepared for the expansion of RCD into Texas and California this year. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:06:44The MACs responsible for our hospitals in these states are Novitas and Noridian. Novitas, the MAC responsible for most of our hospitals in Texas, has gained substantial expertise with RCD in Pennsylvania, where providers have achieved very favorable affirmation rates. As RCD extends to other states and we elect 100% prepayment review, affirmation of our claims should reduce our exposure to other Medicare claims audits. The TEAM model implementation began on January 1st. Encompass has 89 hospitals in the initial TEAM markets, 41 of which are joint ventures with acute care partners. As a reminder, there is no downside risk to the subject acute care hospitals in 2026 under the default track. As we have consistently done with all regulatory changes, we have prepared extensively for TEAM. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:07:54It is another episodic payment pilot, similar to previous models such as CJR and BPCI or BPCI, versions of which have been continuously in place since 2014. In those prior cases, concerns regarding the impact to our patient flows were greatly overstated. The presence of these models notwithstanding, with the exception of 2020, for obvious reasons, we have recorded positive total and same-store discharge growth every year. Regulatory change is a constant in our business, and we have a long track record of successfully adapting and continuing to grow as the underlying demand for IRF services continues to grow. Our strategic relationship with Palantir continues to bear fruit. In 2025, we focused on initiatives that streamlined admission documentation and enhanced our responses to claims denials. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:09:04We recently extended and expanded our agreement with Palantir and look forward to additional successes in 2026 and beyond. In 2025, in addition to substantial investments we made in our operations, we allocated $158 million to share repurchases and returned in excess of $70 million in cash dividends. We maintain a strong balance sheet with year-end net financial leverage of 1.9x. The need for the services we provide has never been greater and is growing. We are uniquely positioned to fill the void. We are incredibly proud of our recent historical performance, but we do not rest on our laurels or focus. Our focus is on the future, which for Encompass Health, is very bright. Our company has never before been presented with greater opportunity, and we have never been better positioned to capitalize. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:10:14Our expectation for continued growth is reflected in our initial 2026 guidance. I'll now turn it over to Doug to provide some additional details on Q4 and the specifics of our 2026 guidance. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:10:32Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Q4 revenue increased 9.9% to $1.5 billion, and adjusted EBITDA increased 15.9% to $335.6 million. The revenue increase was comprised of 5.3% discharge growth and a 4.1% increase in net revenue per discharge. Net revenue per discharge benefited from a $2.7 million settlement with a managed care payer related to prior year claims. Bad debt expense for the quarter was 2.1%, flat on a year-over-year basis. Q4 SWB per FTE increased 2.1%. Premium labor cost, comprised of contract labor and sign-on and shift bonuses, declined $5.8 million from Q4 2024 to $23.8 million. This is the lowest since the first quarter of 2021. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:11:36Contract labor FTEs as a percent of total FTEs was 1.1%, also the lowest since the first quarter of 2021. Benefits, benefits expense per FTE increased 2.9% as we anniversaried the large increase in group medical expense experienced in Q4 of last year. Net reopening and ramp-up costs were $2.9 million in Q4 2025, bringing our full-year total to $13.9 million. Q4 net costs were lower than expected, as four of our 8 hospitals opened during 2025, contributed positive adjusted EBITDA during the quarter, and the losses for our hospitals opened during Q4 were less than budgeted, in part due to faster Medicare certifications. We continue to generate significant free cash flow. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:12:36Q4 adjusted free cash flow increased 23.6% to $235.4 million, bringing our 2025 full year total to $818 million, an increase of 18.5% from 2024. The strength of our cash flow allowed us to fund $736 million of capital expenditures, $158 million in share repurchases, and $71 million in cash dividends, while holding long-term debt essentially flat on a year-over-year basis. Our year-end net leverage ratio of 1.9x connotes substantial flexibility for continuing investments in our business, augmented with shareholder distributions. Moving on to guidance. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:13:29Our 2026 guidance includes net operating revenue of $6.365 billion-$6.465 billion, adjusted EBITDA of $1.34 billion-$1.38 billion, and adjusted earnings per share of $5.81-$6.10. The key considerations underlying our guidance can be found on page 11 of the supplemental slides. With that, we'll now open the lines for Q&A. Operator00:14:06Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, if you do have any questions or comments, please press star one on your telephone. If you find your question has been addressed, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. Once again, star one for questions. We'll go first this morning to Matthew Gillmor of KeyBank. Matthew, please go ahead. Your line is open. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:14:25Morning, Matt. Matthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBank00:14:27Hey, good morning. I thought I might ask a couple of questions on the volume front. The way volumes evolved this year was, you know, stronger in the first half and then moderate a little bit in the back half. I think there were some comp issues you talked about last call. I was curious if you could sort of flesh those out and then help us think through any comp issues we should be thinking about during 2026, especially the dynamic of the de novos rolling into the same store base and that timing issue. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:14:58Yeah. So certainly, in the back half of the year, we were up against some pretty challenging comps. Q3 2024 total discharges were up 8.8%, and 6.8% of that was in same store. And then in similar fashion, when you moved into Q4 of last year, we were up 8.3% in terms of total discharges, and 5.8% of that was in same store. It was also the case that with regard to contributions from new stores, we were more skewed towards the back end of this year, with new hospitals coming on board. You may recall that we had one hospital that opened in the last week of the third quarter, and then three hospitals that opened in the fourth quarter, one in each month. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:15:43And then there was the issue of the unit consolidations and closures that we talked about last quarter. And so as a reminder, we had two units, one in Sewickley, Pennsylvania, and one in Cincinnati, Ohio. Those were spaces that were leased from a host acute care hospital. For various reasons, we terminated the lease, and we anticipate that we'll consolidate that volume into another hospital in the market, but there's a period of time in which that's not happening. We estimated that that was a headwind of about 30 basis points to total and same-store discharge in Q3. I think I made the comment in Q3 that we anticipated a similar level in Q4. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:16:27What I failed to take account of when I made that statement was the fact that Cincinnati actually closed relatively late in Q3, so we had a full quarter impact in Q4, and so the impact in Q4 was probably closer to 45 basis points. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:16:43Matt, I think it's worth noting, just in terms of our track record on bringing on our de novos. You know, last year was a good example of how if we can get the Medicare survey quicker than having a long drag out waiting period for them to come in and do the survey, it certainly benefits us. Our TEAMs are doing a great job getting these hospital staffed, getting the word out in the marketplaces. Our design and construction has done the same thing. There are a lot of factors outside of our control as you go through these startup processes, but our team's just done a really nice job in delivering these hospitals pretty much when the due dates are there. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:17:26So, that has benefited from us, and our continued planning and execution. Matthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBank00:17:34Got it. Understood. And then as a follow-up, I thought I might get a comment or two on, on the payer mix. It seemed like the Medicare fee-for-service mix was a little bit higher in the fourth quarter. Is there something you'd attribute that to? And if, if you had any comments on just sort of the, the growth across different payer classes, that would be great. Thanks. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:17:52Yeah, fee-for-service growth was strong in the fourth quarter. That's good because that's our best payer. We did experience some challenges with regard to Medicare Advantage in the fourth quarter, and it was specifically with one national payer, where we saw the conversion rate drop not insignificantly in the fourth quarter. I'm not going to name names right now. I will tell you that if this persists into next year, we may be inclined to name names. The referrals within that specific Medicare Advantage plan were actually up nicely, high single digits for the quarter. But the conversion rate, which is the ratio of admits to referrals, was down significantly, and there's no reason for that. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:18:38Again, as we looked at the underlying nature of those referrals, they were consistent with the referrals we were getting across the system and across payers. And so what that translates into is, for whatever reason, that plan elected to start denying care to a segment of the Medicare beneficiary population, which we believe is in direct contravention of Medicare coverage requirements. We're going to be undertaking some specific actions to address that as we move into Q1. That includes maintaining active communication with the subject plan and also with CMS, regarding what we view as this non-compliance with the Medicare coverage requirements. As we did in the fourth quarter, we think that there's going to be an opportunity to backfill with IRF-appropriate patients covered by fee-for-service, other MA plans, and the continued growth in our veterans community care network. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:19:32We will ensure, in terms of doing our own part, that our clinical liaisons are responding timely to all referrals and doing so with high-quality medical necessity documentation. There's probably an opportunity to enhance that process with some AI tools, and we're going to be implementing an admit and appeal strategy on those MA denials that we believe are clearly in contravention of the Medicare coverage requirements. And then finally, we'll make sure that we continue to reinforce the value proposition for IRFs with the Medicare beneficiaries, under, making sure they understand the right of choice that they have, with referral sources, with respective patients, and also with families and caregivers. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:20:18Hey, Matt, this is Pat. Just to add a couple of points to what Doug said. So one of the call-outs he made was on the VA program. We've talked about that before. We continue to drive that initiative and have scaled up some best practices and education across our company, and really pleased with the results. So that has now grown to represent 19% of our managed care volume. Our third consecutive quarter of discharge growth in that segment, over 20% on the quarter, finishing around 25% to bring the year to 22% growth. We continue to see a lot of upside in that segment, and it's a great opportunity for us to provide IRF access to veterans. The other point that I'll make is on the MA admit and appeal strategy. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:21:07We've never really undertaken such an effort before. And, you know, two of the major payers have, Medicare, excuse me, have conversion rates below 20%. And what we're gonna do in a couple of these markets is, if the patient meets Medicare coverage criteria, we're gonna admit those patients, and we're gonna go through the different levels of appeal process. There's five levels of administrative appeal, all the way to the ALJ and federal district court, where we're gonna advocate for access to care. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:21:45These issues with this particular MA plan notwithstanding, and they're really not new, we've seen them pop up from time to time. There is a significant population of IRF-appropriate patients who are still not being treated in IRFs, and so there's the pond for us to fish out of is plenty big. Matthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBank00:22:05Got it. Thanks for the details. Operator00:22:09Thank you. We'll go next now to Ann Hynes with Mizuho Securities. Ann, please go ahead. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:22:14Good morning, Ann. Ann HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho Securities00:22:15Yeah, good morning. Thank you for all the detail on some of the regulatory unknowns. That was very helpful. Can you tell us just, like, how these pilots usually play out? Like, I know the TEAM pilot, five years, 2030, 2020, 2032. What typically happens after that pilot program? Like, do most of these pilots just kinda die out, or are they implemented nationally? If you can give us some examples, that would be great. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:22:43You know, and if you go back and even back to 2016, 2015, with the plans I mentioned, the BPCI, CJR, there was a little bit of both in terms of people required to do it or voluntarily got into it. You saw some people really go into it strong, kind of what I refer to on the bleeding edge. Then you saw a lot of systems kind of wait and see what happens and didn't want to get out there too far. I think it's the nice thing about our ability to work with our joint venture partners in these markets where TEAM will come out. We have a very collaborative approach. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:23:24Pat and his team have been out talking to all the major systems in our markets impacted to see what their plans are and also to bring forth our value proposition, because there's a big quality factor in TEAMs that where the acute care hospitals will be penalized for readmissions. So that's a big part of the value that we bring in to that. So I think that in large part, as I noted, there is typically an overreaction in terms of what people think will be the impact on our facilities. And with time, as noted, we just continue to grow through them because there are enough patients that would fall outside these plans that could benefit from the care that we provide. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:24:17So I'll ask Pat just to talk a little bit about what he and his team have done, I think specifically in the Boston marketplace, where we have some TEAM introduction. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:24:29... Hey, and this is Pat. Thanks, Mark. So just to reinforce what Mark said around TEAM and to get at part of your question. So if you look back to BPCI and BPCI Advanced, both of them were five-year programs. They were not expanded after the five years. And if you look between those two models and then CJR, we added or acquired approximately 4,500 beds during that time. So significant growth in spite of those models. So there's really three things that I'll point out to you. Aside from the VA strategy, which is a nice opportunity for us to continue to backfill any potential impact. And aside from patient choice remaining, first is we've had a lot of conversations in our marketplace, as Mark mentioned, Boston. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:25:23Two of our largest potential impacted hospitals are in the Boston marketplace. And, frankly, we're not hearing a whole lot of chatter from them or our JV partners on that they're going to handle patients differently. In fact, they remain very focused on quality, length of stay, capacity, constraints, and readmissions, and those are all elements of our value proposition that we have executed on for decades to their benefit. Second, you know, and Doug touched on this, there's substantial opportunity for us to backfill potential volume with other diagnostic categories. So if you think about stroke, brain injury, neuro, cardiac, and pulmonary, those are patient categories where people are still twice as likely to end up in a nursing home than in an inpatient rehab hospital. So we've put a lot of effort into working to increase our market capture there. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:26:21Then third, you know, from a TEAM perspective, patients on dialysis with end-stage renal disease are exempt from TEAM. About 4% of our volume currently falls into this bucket, but through our investments in Tablo, where we have almost 70% of our hospitals covered with Tablo, and then the remainder with external dialysis. We have the capacity to slightly more than double that volume across our portfolio based on current utilization. So there's a lot of opportunity for us to backfill volume with IRF-appropriate patients across other diagnosis categories or within the TEAM impacted groups as well. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:27:02At the risk of piling on, I'll just add a couple of things. First, our anecdotal evidence, and this has been consistent for multiple months right now, as we canvass the acute care hospitals in the impacted markets, is that there is very little focus on TEAM from those, those hospitals. It's perhaps not surprising because they face such, such substantially larger issues with regard to what's going to happen on Medicaid supplemental payments and what's going to happen with regard to the extension or the lack thereof of any ACA subsidies. Further, as we drilled down and looked at the target prices that have been set for these conditions in the impacted markets, in almost all cases, regardless of the patient's condition, those target prices cannot be achieved unless the patient bypasses a post-acute inpatient stay, IRF or SNF altogether, and goes directly to the home. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:28:00The only way that that can be safely accomplished is if you increase the length of stay in the acute care hospital, and doing so by even a couple of days, would completely erase any of the participation in the risk corridor. Ann HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho Securities00:28:17Mm-hmm. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:28:19Ann, one last comment on this. We've done an analysis early. It's one month, but there's been no impact of TEAM-associated diagnoses categories within our TEAM-impacted markets, so it's really been no impact to volume. Ann HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho Securities00:28:34Great. Thank you for all the detail. Operator00:28:38Thank you. We'll go next now to Andrew Mok of Barclays. Andrew, please go ahead. Andrew MokDirector at Barclays00:28:44Hi, good morning. There was a pretty meaningful beat on labor costs in the quarter, with improvements in both wage wage growth and EPOB. Can you help us understand the drivers of that in the context of moderating volume growth? Thanks. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:28:58Hey, Andrew. Just real quick, I think it's kinda twofold. And I'll ask Pat to talk specific about premium pay. But you know, I think we're seeing you know, some softening in the labor markets as a whole, which has been a positive thing for us for the last year or so. And then I think secondly, while we've always been very disciplined around the use of premium pay and managing our staffing ratios, Pat has really dug in with his team to look at some of the outliers we had within our portfolio, and it's been meaningful. So, Pat, you want to give some detail? Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:29:37Yeah, and, and I'll give credit to, to a few different groups here. So first, you know, our operators have done a tremendous job, both bringing in, excuse me, bringing down turnover. You know, RN turnover continues to drop. It's at pre-pandemic levels, and at the same time, our centralized talent acquisition team continues to do a tremendous job on the hiring front. So we added, from a same-store, perspective, 300 net RNs in 2025, and that brings our four-year total up to around 1,700. So just a tremendous job to both of those groups there. You know, we, we feel like, there is, while the rate of improvement will slow, that we have an opportunity to, to potentially narrow the gap in variation in some of our, higher-utilizing markets on premium pay in particular. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:30:29Our 10 most challenged markets, which represent a significant portion of our spend. We are substantially increasing our efforts from our recruiting team as well as recruitment marketing, to try to get at those markets where hiring has been a little slower. In particular, you know, I'll point out that all the growth that we've had in the de novo markets, we have opened those without contract labor. So we are taking some of the resources that we would use to open a hospital and staff a hospital, and we're gonna apply that approach to these more challenged markets as well. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:31:12On the EPOB front, you know, there, while there is some small timing impact as de novo is ramping, you know, we are relentless in our pursuit of operational discipline across our regions and in our local markets. And we do that in a way that does not sacrifice quality outcomes or clinical excellence. Mark talked about our discharge outcomes. We had records in 2025 of our discharge outcomes as well as patient satisfaction. So we were able to get at these additional efficiencies, and we'll continue to work towards those without sacrificing anything on the clinical front. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:31:52Then just to go through the specifics on the Q4 labors, as we mentioned, total SWB per FTE in Q4 was up 2.1%. The composition of that, core SW, which does not include contract labor for FTE, was up 2.8%. Benefits, again, anniversary, the substantial increase in Q4 of last year was up 2.9%, and premium labor was down year-over-year $5.8 million. The EPOB came in at 3.38. That was better than our expectation, and that was largely attributable to the faster ramp-up of the de novos that opened in 2025. And as we cited during our, our comments previously, that was boosted in Q4 by the fact that we got our Medicare certifications on those openings faster than we had anticipated. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:32:43We don't control that, so we can't guarantee it's gonna happen on future openings, but it was a lift in Q4. Importantly, we were able to achieve all of these things with regard to our labor cost, while holding nursing turnover at 20.2% for the year and therapy turnover at 7.8%. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:33:03One last comment here, that I failed to mention is, you know, we have talked about this before, but we have made a substantial investment in the development of clinical ladders and tweaking those to increase participation, because if we can get a clinician on the ladder, their turnover is about a third of what a non-laddered clinician is. And I’m really, again, proud of our operators. We have our nursing participation up to 32%, 36% of our therapists, and 47% of our nurse techs are participating on our clinical ladders. Again, we still see upside here, but we’re really pleased with our progress. Andrew MokDirector at Barclays00:33:44Great. And just to clarify, the better labor and preopening, the Medicare certifications coming in earlier, that's what's driving the better-than-expected preopening costs, correct? Is there anything else? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:33:57No. Again, you had not only that impact from Q4, which was predominantly where it was, but the performance of the de novos that opened in 2025, prior to Q4, in Q4 was favorable, and we cited a number of those. Four of those actually had positive four-wall EBITDA in Q4. Andrew MokDirector at Barclays00:34:18Great. Thank you. Operator00:34:22Thank you. We'll go next now to Pito Chickering of Deutsche Bank. Pito, please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:34:27Morning, Pito. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:34:29Morning, Pito. Pito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche Bank00:34:29Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions here. So I want to apologize in advance for this one, but I want to go in the weeds and talk about the Alabama RCD experience. From a process perspective, can you explain with a 93% affirmation rate, what happens with the 7% of claims that weren't affirmed? When you appeal that 7%, what percentage of those are you winning? And when you appeal to the administrative law judge level, what percentage of those are you winning? So at the end of the day, after you appeal and go to the ALJ, what % of these claims do you guys need to reserve for? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:35:08Well, you weren't lying. You are down in the weeds. Let me, let me first kind of pull us up a little bit, and then I'll see if I can get down to that level. So, you know, first of all, there's a perception out there that both TEAM and RCD represent new risks to IRFs. And, and Mark referred to some of this. In our opinion, they do not. They are ordinary course of business. We have lived continuously with episodic payment models since 2014, and CMS has always had the right to audit 100% of IRF Medicare claims on both a prepayment and a post-payment basis. And they have done so under a series of programs such as TPE, ADR, RAC, SMRC, et cetera. RCD is just a new acronym for the same old thing. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:36:06The Medicare coverage requirements under RCD have not changed, the documentation requirements under RCD have not changed, and the third parties performing the RCD audits have not changed. The potential upside to RCD is that if we choose to remain on 100% review, and Mark alluded to this in his comments, it potentially obviates the other audit programs. Moving specifically to Alabama, 93% is the current affirmation rate for the seven hospitals in Alabama, where we're dealing with a difficult MAC, who continues to non-affirm claims for reasons that are in contravention of Medicare coverage requirements and guidelines. As a result, we appeal the overwhelming majority of non-affirm claims through the multiple levels available to us. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:37:01And although it's still early to call the ultimate resolution rate because those claims are still pending, and because the sample size is relatively small, we're having good success reversing the denials. We continue to educate Palmetto, and we continue to involve CMS, and we believe that it is more likely than not that, that 93% affirmation rate moves up. When we look at the Pennsylvania experience, it covers more hospitals, and we believe that that rate, 98%-99%, is more representative of where a broadly adjudicated RCD program will land. And so all of that suggests to us that the go-forward bad debt expense rate that we experience is gonna be consistent with our recent historical experience, thus the 2%-2.5% number that is included in our 2026 guidance. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:37:58Uh, just- Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:37:59Okay. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:37:59One quick addition on RCD in Alabama, not necessarily on the bad debt front, but just on the volume and occupancy front. So, it virtually, again, no impact here. We have expansions that will be underway at three of our Alabama hospitals. We're gonna be filing for the CON for three additional expansions. So that covers six of the seven hospitals in the state. So, on the volume side, unimpacted. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:38:29Look, Palmetto is a pain in the butt in Alabama. They were a pain in the butt before RCD. Pito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche Bank00:38:37Okay, fair enough. That's a pretty, pretty honest response. A follow-up question that you talked about earlier, I think you said that the referrals were up high single digits, but admissions were way down. Can you talk about generally what you see from MA on conversion rates from where that went this quarter, and then from a legal perspective, how much leeway does MA have to deny post-acute care? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:39:03Yeah. So I'll start and then maybe pass it over to, to Pat. So, you know, historically, our, our total MA conversion rates have run between 25% and 30%, and that's gonna compare to Medicare fee-for-service, which is the same, patient population, subject to the same Medicare coverage requirements, which is run in the mid-60%. And so that's been a problem all along. Particular payer, who shall remain nameless for at least this quarter, has always been our lowest conversion rate, but they dropped by about 500 basis points, in the quarter. You know, there, this is again, in, in contravention of Medicare requirements, so we do have the ability to take this directly to CMS. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:39:51Because the change was so material in Q4, our first order of business is going to be to try to work directly with the plan itself and say, "Is there something different? Is there something that we can do better to try to do that in partnership?" But we're not going to wait and to see the effect of that before we get more aggressive with this admit and appeal strategy that Pat outlined just a bit earlier. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:40:17What I would add to that is, MA is required to operate with the same coverage criteria as traditional fee-for-service Medicare. They're allowed to have a prior auth requirement, which they do, but they are supposed to adhere to that same coverage criteria. And what we see on a daily basis, and that's—this is not new, is the failure to adhere to that Medicare coverage criteria. So, you know, we have typically taken that in stride, and it's been a frustration for our referral sources, it's been a frustration for us, and, and most importantly, it's been a frustration for the seniors in this country that deserve our level of care. So, you know, we have decided that we're, we're—there's no teeth to the Medicare requirement right now, that they have to do that. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:41:12So, you know, we're in a position and on a... where we're gonna pilot this, and we're gonna take these claims that are in alignment with Medicare coverage criteria, through the administrative appeal process, through the ALJ and potentially beyond. And, you know, we're optimistic, you know, we feel like the facts are on our side here, and more importantly, we're really interested in making sure that seniors have access to our level of care in this country. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:41:45I think it's important to note as well, perhaps another silver lining out of RCD, is that the affirmation rates that we're seeing in Alabama and that the others are seeing in Pennsylvania suggest that under fee-for-service, which has that much higher conversion rate, the overwhelming majority of patients are appropriate for IRF care, which means that those that are being denied that access by Medicare Advantage are being done so, again, in contravention of Medicare coverage requirements. Pito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche Bank00:42:19Great. Thanks so much, guys. Operator00:42:22We'll go next now to Whit Mayo of Leerink Partners. Whit, please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:42:26Morning, Whit. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:42:27Hello, Whit. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:42:29Hello. Whit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:42:29Hey, guys. Doug, just wanted to take your temperature on leverage and how you're thinking about the appropriate target. You're gonna probably drift below 1.5x soon. Just any thoughts on upping the dividend more, stepping up buybacks on a permanent basis, maybe buying up leases? Just any updated views would be helpful. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:42:51... Yeah. So, maybe what we can do is kind of use our guidance 2026 as a proxy for what things might look like. So if you look at our free cash flow assumptions, the midpoint of those assumptions is right at about $828 million. Again, using the midpoint of other ranges within our growth CapEx, that's at $725 million. The dividend at its current level is $77 million. So that would suggest, again, if we are achieving our midpoint of EBITDA guidance and our midpoint of the free cash flow, that we would fund those uses internally and still have about $25 million of cash. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:43:37That would leave us, all other things equal, at the end of 2026, with a leverage ratio of 1.83x. That implies, even if you wanted to be conservative and leave leverage at, say, 2x, that there would be capacity for another $230 million-$250 million of buybacks or other distributions. There really aren't other opportunities to buy back leases. So I think to the extent that we generate excess cash and have capacity within the leverage ratio, the most likely utilization of that is going to be additional share repurchases and increases in the dividend. Whit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:44:20Okay. And then, we haven't heard much about malpractice from you guys. Some of the other providers have been talking about it more. Just how did that develop in 2025? Thoughts on 2026. You've got this new reasonable care standard change, I think, with malpractice. Does this, you know, change your views at all, how you're thinking about it? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:44:43Yeah, we've seen no significant change in our GPL activity from 2024 to 2025. Whit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink Partners00:44:55Okay. Well, thank you. Operator00:44:59Thank you. We'll go next now to A.J. Rice of UBS. A.J., please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:45:04Morning, AJ. Analyst at UBS00:45:06Hi, this is James on for A.J. Thank you for taking my question. I just wondered if you can give us some color on the rationale behind the changing development as you look to add these small format hospitals, and what advantages this type of hospital provides versus the traditional de novos? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:45:25Yeah. So it's the confluence of design and opportunity, maybe with a dose of necessity tossed in. And so from a design perspective, historically, we had had trouble coming up with an economically feasible model that would be in the size range that we're talking about. But as we have ascended the learning curve with regard to our de novos, really over the past five or so years, and been able to incorporate more in the way of prefabricated construction, whether in a hybrid model or fully, it's helped us kind of crack the code on this 24-bed prototype. It solves an issue for us where we've got one of two situations. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:46:14One is we've got an existing hospital in a market that doesn't have any more physical ability to expand, and yet the demand of the market suggests that more beds are needed. And so this is an economically feasible way of adding more capacity into that market, even on a chassis that can't be expanded. It's also the case that as we find in a lot of larger metropolitan markets, in Dallas and Houston and Tampa, are three that come immediately to mind, that the overall market is growing, but based on traffic patterns and based on the growth in specific neighborhoods or geographies, the additional beds might best be positioned elsewhere in the market as opposed to in the existing hospital. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:47:03So again, the standard format that we have come up with, and the first will open in 2027, is we acquire 2-2.5 acres based on specific topography. It is a single story, 24-bed chassis. It has got a smaller kitchen because there's no food preparation on site. Obviously, the gym is smaller because we've got a fewer number of patients, and we're able to leverage the management team and the marketing resources associated with the host hospital, so the returns are very favorable. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:47:38You know, it's a market density is a big part of the strategy. Not only you get scale from staff, but you get a brand recognition in the marketplace, which helps us with staffing, as you have the employees in the workforce out there starts to become more and more familiar with Encompass Health. We've seen that in markets. It gives us an opportunity to provide growth opportunities for our existing staff and management team. So that helps with retention. It also decreases the risk as we add another location in the marketplace. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:48:17So we think there are a lot of benefits from the small format hospital, and as I noted, it's just yet another modality that we have to add capacity in a marketplace where the need is pointing out the required capacity. So we've got some strong plans going out in the future on this, and we think it's going to be really helpful as we expand that capacity. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:48:45And it's important to note that because all of these small format hospitals will be remote locations, meaning that they are tied to a host hospital, they operate under the same Medicare provider number, which in almost all cases means that managed care contracts and so forth can be extended and don't have to be renegotiated. It also means that you're not subject to another Medicare certification, and so you don't have to do the 30 free patients in the ramp up there. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:49:14This is Pat. I would also add that we do have three locations right now. They're not technically what we would consider a small format hospital, but they operate like it. And they drive impressive results and returns. So we do have some experience with this operating model. This is a great way for us to scale this across the country. We have dozens of potential locations that we're going to be looking at for consideration. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:49:48You know, we talked about growing or underserved, excuse me, large or growing markets, but underserved or fringe markets where we have a hospital are also candidates for this because you may have someone within 30—a location within 30 mi that does not have the density of a new requirement for a new hospital, but they could benefit from a smaller location, and we'd still be able to get the leverage that both Mark and Doug have talked about. So we're really excited about this. I think it's going to be a big part of our strategy moving forward and a nice way for us to not only help patients, but increase our returns as well. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:50:30Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:50:34Thank you. We'll go next now to Joanna Gajuk of Bank of America. Joanna, please go ahead. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:50:40Hi, Joanna. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:50:41Oh, yes. Hi. Hey, how are you? Thanks for squeezing me in here. So I guess I have, I have two questions. So one, I want to start a follow-up on the TEAM discussion, and then I have a question on volume. So first on the TEAM, so thanks for sizing up the exposure here. So 2% of volume seems very manageable, and you expect to be able to replace any lost volume. So that's good. But just a couple of questions, you know, as we try to like do some math, maybe in the future, too. So are these procedures that is included, right, in the TEAM model, in the 5 categories, are those coming at average revenue per discharge that's much different than average? You know, any kind of direction would be helpful here. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:51:25Sounds like, I just want to clarify, you don't have so much of an impact, I guess, to bottom line this year, but I just want to make sure, like, is there some sort of a number, you know, in terms of EBITDA headwind that you included in your 2026 guidance? And with that comment around, you know, the acute hospitals are not taking risk in year one, but would you expect, you know, things to change dramatically over time as these hospitals, you know, take more risks in the future years? Thanks. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:51:56So, Joanna, this is Doug. I'm going to start with the margin, then I'm going to turn it over to Pat for the balance. So, there is no real stratification of margin or real diversion of margin across our patient categories. And so it is true that reimbursement is tied to RIC into patient acuity, but when you drill down to the specific patient level, you also have to factor in things like comorbidity. And whereas you may be getting a higher reimbursement for a more acute patient, that is in part due to the fact, or large part, due to the fact that that patient requires more intense care and typically comes with a lower, with a longer length of stay. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:52:41So no real distinction between the margin profile of the patients that will be subject potentially to this demonstration and to our other patients. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:52:53Thanks, Doug. So Joanna, this is Pat. I would say from a margin perspective, Doug is absolutely correct. No, we're not foreseeing any impact on margin. From a net revenue per discharge perspective, it's almost each of these are in line with our average net revenue per discharge. The only two that have slightly higher, and I mean slightly higher, are the ones associated with fractures. So lower extremity with fracture and then hip fracture. But again, we're not anticipating for this to be material. It's all reflected in our 2026 guidance, and we feel really good about our opportunities to backfill. The only other point that I'll make on TEAM is the majority of our team impacted markets have less than, well, 39 of the 89 have less than 10 discharges tied to TEAM's diagnoses. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health00:53:49Almost all of our TEAM impact is tied to 50 markets, and half of those are joint ventures. So again, we've reflected this in our guidance. We're really, we think we're prepared to mitigate this if issues come up, but we're really just not hearing of any changes in referrals or admissions in our markets. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:54:12I will note also, just further on the margin issue, part of the reason that you get to that parity with our average revenue per discharge on those particular categories that are subject to TEAM is because those specific patients have more comorbidities. That would make them less likely to actually be a participant within the TEAM model in terms of diverting their care away from the IRF, because they really need to be in that intense setting. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:54:39Okay, that makes sense. And if I may, one question on volumes. I don't think you talk about some breakdown in terms of just the categories. In the past, you would talk about, you know, sort of the cardiology, neurology, orthopedic cases in the quarter. So if you can give us that color, that would be helpful. Thank you. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:54:59Well, we provide patient mix every quarter. You know, and we've provided the 2%. It's not a direct equation. It's convenient to try to look at this in isolation and just say, "I'm gonna pick those RICS and assume that that's an estimate for the volume that's in those categories." But that's missing two other things. One is the presence of comorbidities that is going to be an element that clinicians make in deciding the appropriate course of care. And the second is, let's say that you even had an acute care hospital that was extremely committed to all elements of TEAM. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:55:41Again, the only way that they would be able to achieve the target price in many instances is by increasing the length of stay so that they would have a patient who could safely bypass any inpatient, post-acute inpatient setting. If they do that, the likelihood is that they would be looking for non-TEAM patients where they could reduce the length of stay, and that has been one of the key elements of our value proposition all along, which is the ability to take a more acute patient with a shorter length of stay in the acute care hospital, so there'd be offsetting volume there. So it's the TEAM is not something that will happen in isolation. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:56:21Joanna, if you're talking about overall volume and just on a RIC basis, we did see nice growth and brain injury up 8.7%, cardiac up 5.1%, neuro 4.5%. Major trauma was up 5%, and stroke was up 3.8%. So again, broad-based growth across diagnosis categories. From a mix perspective, with brain injury being our third largest discharge RIC category, that was up 40 basis points to be our largest mover. So again, that's something we're pretty excited about, especially given that it's not a TEAM-impacted diagnosis. Joanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA Securities00:57:05Okay, thank you so much for the call. Thanks. Operator00:57:08Thank you. We'll go next now to Brian Tanquilut of Jefferies. Brian, please go ahead. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:57:15Hey, Brian. Brian TanquilutSenior Analyst in Healthcare Services, and HCIT/Digital Health Equity Research at Jefferies00:57:15Good morning. Congrats, yeah. Good morning. Congrats on the quarter, and thanks for squeezing me in. Maybe, Mark, as I think about concerns that are emerging on Medicare Advantage rates and how that could potentially translate to payer pressure on providers, I mean, how are you thinking about that dynamic? Then, how—what are those discussions like with payers as you think about your scale and local market power? Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:57:38You know, we always lead with our outcomes, Brian, and it's part of our value proposition, and I don't see that changing going forward. I think, you know, the concerns, particularly if you think about just TEAM and some of the—and certainly with the payers, the quality aspect and concerns around readmission rates back to the acute care hospitals, it really puts the premium on a post-acute provider that can take care of these higher acuity patients like we do, and have a low readmission percentage. So, we're very diligent about leading with our data and our outcomes. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:58:18When we go and meet with the payer or the medical director for that payer, it's very helpful that we can show them the differences that we can have with an Encompass Health hospital versus nursing homes or even other IRF providers. So I don't think our strategy on that changes. If anything, we have more data and data sources now than what we did five or 10 years ago, just to help create that competitive advantage for us. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health00:58:51You know, what is happening out there is the rate of growth in terms of new MA beneficiaries has declined very substantially. And if you listen to some of the dialogue in response to some of the rate updates and so forth coming out of the major plans, they are stating that they're intending to exit more geographies with regard to their MA plans, which is gonna shift those patients over to fee-for-service, and that's not a bad outcome for us. Brian TanquilutSenior Analyst in Healthcare Services, and HCIT/Digital Health Equity Research at Jefferies00:59:21Got it. All right, I'll leave it there, as at that, but over the top of the hour. Thanks. Operator00:59:27Thank you. We'll go next now to Jared Haase of William Blair. Jared, please go ahead. Mark TarrPresident and CEO at Encompass Health00:59:33Morning, Jared. Jared? Jared HaaseEquity Research Associate at William Blair00:59:35Hey. Hey, good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in here at the end. Maybe I'll just stick to one as well. You mentioned the expanded relationship with Palantir, so I'll ask on the technology front. Sounds like you've had some wins around administrative work and, and revenue cycle management. I guess two questions. Number one, just be curious if there's any kind of quick ways to quantify sort of cost savings or other metrics that you track, in terms of that deployment. And then, as you think about expanding that initiative, is that still broadly around areas that, you know, I would bucket under, let's say, revenue cycle management, or are you seeing other areas of the business to optimize, maybe around clinical care or patient experience? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:00:14Yeah. So on the first, it is difficult to assign a specific ROI to the work that they're doing, but hopefully, what it's gonna mean is that our success on claims denials is gonna continue to improve. The manpower that we need to process those denials is gonna decrease and can be shifted elsewhere. So there are gonna be some real tangible benefits. In terms of new projects that we're working on, we are gonna be focusing on CRM, market analysis, specifically to help us identify the optimal strategy for positioning in a market, in terms of de novos with expansion capabilities, and the use of small-format hospitals. Revenue cycle management is something that we'll be looking at later this year, and clinical staffing is another one that's on the table. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health01:01:12... Just to add to that, you know, we're looking for opportunities on the upside to enhance and elevate our clinicians. You talked about clinical care and patient experience in your question. I think that is certainly goals of ours. You know, people don't go to medical school or nursing school or therapy school to become great at documenting and document for half of their shift. So we'll continue to evaluate opportunities to allow our clinicians to do what they do best, and that's take care of patients. Jared HaaseEquity Research Associate at William Blair01:01:48Okay, great. I appreciate all the color, and I'll leave it there. Operator01:01:53Thank you. We'll go next now to Raj Kumar of Stephens. Raj, please go ahead. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:01:57Hey, good morning, Raj. Raj KumarEquity Research Analyst at Stephens01:01:59Hey, good morning. Thank you for squeezing me in. Just, one quick one. As we kind of think about in the first quarter and, you know, and maybe any potential impacts from the winter storm, I see that in your disclosures that one of the facilities that may have been slated for the first quarter was pushed back to the second quarter. So just curious, maybe if there's anything embedded in guidance related to any potential winter storm impacts and how we should be thinking about that? Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:02:24No significant impact from the storm. I do want to call out, we've got two other closures that are going to impact Q1 as well. So the first is that we have operated since we acquired this facility in Lexington, Kentucky, Cardinal Hill. We've operated a 75-bed SNF unit. It's the only one, only SNF unit that we have had. It ran at a low ADC, 25 ADC. Both the beds and the ADC were included in our IRF bed count and discharge number, and that unit basically had zero profitability. We closed that at the end of December, so you're going to have some carryover impact from that. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:03:12You'll have the continued impact, although lessening a bit, from Cincinnati and Sewickley, and then we've got one more unit consolidation that is taking place, and that is we have a unit in Bridgeport, West Virginia, which is in the Morgantown market, that is housed within an acute care hospital. It's at the end of its lease, so we are closing that effective February 28. Unmitigated, meaning not picking up volume elsewhere in the markets as we go into 2026, that creates about a 70 basis point headwind for 2026. Discharge growth, all of which is in same store. We think that we will mitigate somewhere between 35 and 40 basis points of that. Operator01:04:04Great. Thank you for your comment. Thank you. We'll go next now to Parker Snure at Raymond James. Parker, please go ahead. Patrick TuerEVP and COO at Encompass Health01:04:13Morning, Parker. Parker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond James01:04:14Hey, good morning. Hey, good morning, and thanks for squeezing me in. I was just wondering if you could give some detail just on your outlook on provider taxes or supplemental payments. Maybe just remind us your total exposure there, and then just your outlook for 2026, and then maybe some potential upside from the diffuse pending program, one, particularly in Florida, that you may get some benefit from. Maybe just talk broadly about supplemental payments and your thoughts there. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:04:40Yeah. So the EBITDA impact from net provider taxes for this year was about $21 million, and a little over $3 million of that was out of period. I think a core assumption is that that would stay relatively flat as we move into 2026. Parker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond James01:05:04Okay, great. Thank you. Doug ColtharpEVP and CFO at Encompass Health01:05:07And by the way, that $21 million compared to an EBITDA contribution of $15.5 million last year, with a comparable amount being out of period. Parker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond James01:05:16Okay, great. Thank you. Operator01:05:20Thank you. Gentlemen, it appears we've answered all the questions today. Mr. Miller, I'd like to turn things back to you, sir, for any closing comments. Mark MillerChief Investor Relations Officer at Encompass Health01:05:27Thank you, operator. If anyone has additional questions, please call me at 205-970-5860. Thank you again for joining today's call. Operator01:05:40Thank you, everyone. Again, that does conclude Encompass...Read moreParticipantsExecutivesDoug ColtharpEVP and CFOMark MillerChief Investor Relations OfficerMark TarrPresident and CEOPatrick TuerEVP and COOAnalystsAndrew MokDirector at BarclaysAnn HynesSenior Healthcare Services Equity Analyst and Managing Director at Mizuho SecuritiesBrian TanquilutSenior Analyst in Healthcare Services, and HCIT/Digital Health Equity Research at JefferiesJared HaaseEquity Research Associate at William BlairJoanna GajukEquity Research Analyst at BofA SecuritiesMatthew GillmorDirector and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBankParker SnureAssociate Analyst at Raymond JamesPito ChickeringAnalyst covering Healthcare Facilities and Medical Devices at Deutsche BankRaj KumarEquity Research Analyst at StephensWhit MayoSenior Managing Director at Leerink PartnersAnalyst at UBSPowered by