NASDAQ:DLHC DLH Q1 2026 Earnings Report $4.02 +0.34 (+9.35%) As of 03:35 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast DLH EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.09Consensus EPS -$0.07Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/ADLH Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$68.89 millionExpected Revenue$70.15 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.26 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADLH Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2026Date2/9/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, February 10, 2026Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsDLH's Q4 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, December 9, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, December 2, 2026 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by DLH Q1 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 10, 2026ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Revenue declined to $68.9 million versus $90.8 million a year ago, with approximately $18 million of the decrease attributable to CMOP and Head Start conversions to small‑business set‑asides. Positive Sentiment: Adjusted EBITDA was $6.5 million and adjusted EBITDA margin improved sequentially to 9.5%, with further indirect cost reductions expected to drive additional margin improvement in Q2. Positive Sentiment: Debt rose to $136.6 million this quarter due to working‑capital timing, but management remains ahead of mandatory repayments, in covenant compliance, and plans to convert roughly 50%–55% of FY26 EBITDA to debt reduction by year‑end. Positive Sentiment: The recently enacted federal budget increased funding for key federal health agencies and provided greater visibility, which management believes will support organic growth in digital transformation, cybersecurity, and C6ISR modernization work. Negative Sentiment: Award activity and the pipeline remain constrained after the CIO‑SP4 cancellation and prolonged procurement delays, with some work shifting to vehicles where DLH is not primed, limiting near‑term bid opportunities and revenue recovery. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallDLH Q1 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the DLH Holdings Fiscal 2026 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key, followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chris Witty, Investor Relations Advisor. Please go ahead. Chris WittyInvestor Relations Advisor at DLH Holdings Corp00:00:35Thank you, and good morning, everyone. On the call with me today is Zach Parker, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kathryn JohnBull, Chief Financial Officer. The company's earnings release and PowerPoint presentation are available on our website under the Investor page. I would now like to provide a brief safe harbor statement, which is also shown on slide three of the presentation. This call may include forward-looking statements that relate to the company's outlook for fiscal 2026 and beyond. These statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from such statements. Please refer to the risk factors contained in the company's annual report on Form 10-K, and in our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. Chris WittyInvestor Relations Advisor at DLH Holdings Corp00:01:21On today's call, we'll be referencing both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of our non-GAAP results to our reported GAAP results is included in our earnings release and in the investor presentation on DLH's website. President and CEO, Zach Parker, will speak next, followed by CFO Kathryn JohnBull. After which, we'll open it up for questions. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Zach. Please go ahead, Zach. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:01:44Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our first quarter conference call. I am pleased for the opportunity to report our financial results and provide color regarding the current environment and outlook. Now, turning to slide 4, I'll provide an overview of our achievements and outlook. The first quarter was marked by the longest government shutdown in our nation's history, followed by a short-term funding gap at the end of January. However, the recently enacted budget provides increased funding capacity and improved visibility for our clients for the remainder of the fiscal year across our markets. We expect that to be a positive impact. Notably, key federal health agencies received funding increases compared to the fiscal 2025 levels, reversing, in part, previously disclosed funding reductions to our current and addressable markets. We believe this improved clarity and stability meaningfully support the company's organic growth initiatives. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:02:49This budget stability comes at an opportune time for DLH as we continue to see improving demand across our core markets. Defense and intelligence customers are emphasizing rapid delivery, cost efficiency, digital modernization, and advanced technology integration through the application of command control, communications, computers, cyber defense, and combat systems with intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, known as C6ISR expertise. At the same time, federal health agencies continue to prioritize system interoperability, cybersecurity, including Zero Trust applications, cloud migration, and AI adoption, which position DLH competitively well for modernization-driven awards. These are areas that leverage our strengths, our capabilities, and our innovative proprietary tools, as discussed previously, to enhance productivity on current work while elevating our competitive position on organic growth opportunities. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:03:56While revenue was down year-over-year, largely due to the, our previously discussed program transitions to small business set-aside contracts, such as the VA CMOP and Head Start, we are seeing improved visibility and are encouraged by the midterm outlook. More importantly, we delivered sequential improvement in adjusted EBITDA margins from the fourth quarter, as Kathryn will discuss in more detail shortly. We remain firmly focused on expanding efficiencies and margins and improving overall returns as the year progresses and award decisions are made. We also continue to execute on our commitment to deleveraging the balance sheet. As is typical in the first quarter, debt increased modestly, driven primarily by the timing of labor and payroll tax repayments around public holidays. That said, we remain on track with our debt reduction plans for fiscal 2026. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:04:59Overall, we remain well positioned to succeed over the coming years, including competing effectively for high organic value opportunities within a healthy and expansive addressable market. Our differentiated technology application capabilities, tools, and workforce align exceptionally well to position us for our three strategic pillars. Those are digital transformation and cybersecurity, science, research, and development, and systems engineering and integration. Importantly, the improved clarity around the fiscal 2026 budget, combined with our broad portfolio of contract vehicles, bodes well for DLH's long-term growth outlook. We remain committed to continued investment in the talent, tools, and technologies required to meet the evolving, complex needs of our customers across each of our core markets.... Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:06:04Our customers leverage our capabilities to access leading-edge processing speeds, digital sandbox environments, tailored integrations with COTS products and technologies, advanced data science, and actionable visualizations and dashboards that support mission-critical decision-making. While the government services market has experienced meaningful disruption this year, driven by delays in contract solicitations and awards and previously uncertain budget visibility, we have continued to use this period to transform DLH in a positive way. Today, we are technology, we are a technology, engineering, and scientific solutions provider that is extremely well-positioned to compete for the opportunities of the future. As we work to enhance our organic profile, we will remain disciplined in reducing our indirect costs and managing our capital deployment. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:07:09The management team and I are confident that DLH is on track to exit fiscal 2026 in a much stronger position than than we began, and we are encouraged by what lies ahead. Before I close, I would like to recognize the performance of our deep and highly credentialed workforce. In a challenging environment, we lean on the passion, ingenuity, and expertise of our staff to succeed. This past quarter, you once again surmounted extraordinary challenges in support of our customers. As always, thank you to everyone at DLH for your commitment to excellence that you demonstrated each day. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Kathryn JohnBull. Kathryn? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:08:05Thank you, Zach, and good morning, everyone. We're pleased to report our first quarter results for fiscal 2026. Turning to Slide 6, I'd first like to provide a high-level overview of some key financial metrics for the three months ended December 31, 2025. We reported revenue of $68.9 million in the first quarter versus $90.8 million in the prior year period, reflecting contributions from expansion on existing contracts, offset by the impact of conversion of certain programs to small business set-aside contracts, as discussed in the past, and certain government efficiency initiatives. In total, the revenue contraction was mostly due to small business set-aside conversions, primarily from CMOP and Head Start, with an approximate $18 million decrease in the quarter versus fiscal 2025. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:09:01We reported Adjusted EBITDA of $6.5 million for the quarter, compared to $9.9 million in the prior year period, with the decrease primarily driven by lower revenue levels, partially offset by effective management of indirect costs as we aligned our cost structure with reduced volume. Importantly, Adjusted EBITDA margin improved sequentially to 9.5% for the quarter. Our cost-scaling initiatives continue into the second quarter, including further reductions in indirect spend in anticipation of future CMOP site transitions, and we expect the impact of these actions to become more evident in our second quarter results. From a free cash flow standpoint, we used approximately $4.8 million during the quarter, which is typical for the first quarter, given seasonal increases in working capital requirements. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:09:56Importantly, this represents a significant improvement compared to last year's use of $12.1 million of free cash flow, which reflected delays in the collection of an unusually high level of receivables. As Zach mentioned earlier, the primary driver of cash usage this quarter was the timing of labor and payroll taxes around the public holidays at the end of the year. Now, turning to Slide 7, I'll wrap up with a summary of our debt reduction efforts, which remain a key area of focus for DLH. As a result of the first quarter working capital requirements I mentioned earlier, including the impact of the government shutdown, debt increased during the quarter to $136.6 million. We remain well ahead of our mandatory term repayment schedule and in full compliance with all financial covenants. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:10:48Looking ahead, we expect to convert approximately 50%-55% of EBITDA generated during fiscal 2026 to reduce debt by year-end. As our investors know, we take deleveraging very seriously and have a strong track record of execution, even though the uncertainty of the past few years related to the runoff of small business set-aside programs. We remain more than adequately capitalized to support our growth strategy and now have greater visibility into the year ahead than in prior quarters. As the year progresses, we look forward to improvement in our operating fundamentals and organic growth initiatives. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to our operator to open it for questions. Operator00:11:36Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. Please go ahead. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:12:07... Good morning. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:12:09Good morning, Joe! Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:12:09Good morning, Joe. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:12:12Kathryn, just, you said about $18 million of the delta in the revenue decline was from CMOP and Head Start, and that would leave about $4 million still unaccounted for. What was the other $4 million? Where did that get lost? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:12:32Yeah, it's what we have referred to as the nicks and the nibbles of the DOGE initiatives that happened in the early part of fiscal 25, somewhat after December, but you know in Q2 of fiscal 25. Also, the wrap-up of that little single international project that we had that completed in January of 2025. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:13:01USAID. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:13:02Yeah, USAID project. So it is a sundry of smaller impacts that were not strategic and not related to the small business set aside. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:13:13And Joe, those were, those were what as Kathryn indicated, they were a little bit smaller because those are, were, the effect of unbundling contracts, right? So that they were able to make more work available also to small businesses or other contract vehicles that were, had been in existence. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:13:35Okay, thank you for that. And on the CMOP, I know we had four contracts at the end of last year, and one they had recently awarded somebody else. I think two more were out for bid. Any update on the two that were out? Have they been awarded any timing as to when they might transition, and anything new on the last remaining location? Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:05Well, we believe we'll be—we're really in the wind down phase across the board for the CMOP work. The VA has gotten a more, you know, a little battle rhythm set for being able to do some of the transitions, complete their evaluations, a little more timely fashion, and to move into transition phase. We have been leaning very aggressively and supportive of making those transitions. The specifics on the contract coverage, I'll turn over to Kathryn. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:39I, uh- Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:40Go ahead. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:40Yeah, no, I think that's the right way to think about it. As we indicated, as early as the first quarter of 2025, we certainly expected the completion of the CMOP work to be near term. And as Zach said, the cadence now that there seems to be a pretty manageable process for making those transitions, we are looking at probably a complete wrap-up of CMOP in Q3 of this current fiscal year. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:15:14Okay, thank you for that. And when you talk about the cost reductions that you've taken so far, one, was there any cost to those, and where would that show up on the income statement? And two, is that inclusive of the expected CMOP losses, or will you need to do additional cost out once all three of those contracts transition? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:15:45Yeah. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:15:45Yeah, let me kick it off and I'll let Kathryn handle the specifics. So when we exited 2024, we kinda laid out, at least internally and with our board, a game plan around this reset, right? The reset of the decline in business that we had been communicating that would result from CMOP and some of the unbundling and bundling of other contracts in small business set aside. While at the same time, we're anticipating, you know, more bid opportunities and wins throughout 2025. So we had looked at what we kinda call a V curve and managing that for exiting 2024 and then throughout 2025. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:16:24The delays, obviously, as Kathryn indicated, and the opportunity, bid opportunities during 25, due to all the challenges we've discussed, had really necessitated that we made sure we had a plan that was flexible and would be phased for indirect reduction. We have implemented two major components of that indirect reduction. It's very important for us to maintain a competitive indirect cost profile to be able to compete organically, and that's been a key driver for us while we've been managing the phase out of these contracts, including those that still continue for CMOP. So, we've had a management plan to make sure we can do those indirect reductions. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:17:13At the same time, I would tell you, we've been implementing new measures to drive efficiencies, applying some of the tools we do for our customers, AI, ML, and things of that nature, to drive efficiencies in, in executing not only for our customers, but also for our enterprise. And we're gonna continue to look at deploying that. We've got a project or two that has some of that running out through this, the remainder of this fiscal year, where we can enhance it and augment the caliber of services by our, our folks using some of these tools. We think those efficiencies will also help us in the long run. Kathryn, you wanna get, answer a couple of the specifics on the timing and, and GAAP impact? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:17:55Yes, to your, to your question, Joe, about whether the cost of those, those reductions is factored in or where does it show up? That, that is reflected in our Q1 results. Both the impact of the reduction in cost as well as the cost of achieving those reductions is all reflected in the Q1 financials. And is also then considered as part of the crosswalk from standard EBITDA to adjusted EBITDA. In other words, that, that adjustment reflects as if those reductions had taken place at the beginning of the quarter. I'm sure you can appreciate that those have to be thought through and take some implementation time and so therefore happened midway in the quarter. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:18:45In terms of addressing the change in volume of CMOP specifically, that's part of the overall program, and we have scaled costs related to supporting CMOP as CMOP has made its journey downward. But we do, of course, still carry some costs for running the remaining locations, but we will scale it in the appropriate timeframe, along with the changes in revenue volume, just as we do for the volume of business for the entire enterprise. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:19:18Okay, thanks. And one more from me. I mean, you know, sounds, you know, we might still be starting to see some positivity here on the pipeline and bidding activity. Just wondering, you know, Zach, you know, we got named to a number of IDIQ contracts. Have they just not been putting anything out for bid or not stuff that, you know, DLH is bidding on? You know, or have there been some projects out there that you've been on, just have not, you know, won? I mean, has the, I guess, kinda the hit rate, you know, of awards for you guys, is that, you know, staying steady or is that declined? I mean, maybe a little more insight into the market opportunity out there and how DLH is faring in that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:20:13You bet, Joe, and we are planning on giving a deep color as we have historically, from time to time on that pipeline during our upcoming annual meeting with the shareholders. But to your point, yes, we've a little bit of each, right? So we've had in terms of the major IDIQs and the MAC IDIQs, the most recent news, of course, is CIO-SP4 has been canceled. And as we had stated before, we saw that as a very attractive and viable vehicle for us, with a number of opportunities that we had anticipated being able to bid in 2025, that would allow us to start to generate some revenue, you know, around this time period. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:21:00Some of those jobs, you know, then some of our customers had moved to other vehicles already anticipating that CIO-SP4 was not gonna be viable. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:21:12Right. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:21:13And so we've had a couple of erosions to our pipeline attributed to work moving to a vehicle which we could not prime. That's had some impact, and while at the same time, I'd have to say the biggest key has been customers, given the budget uncertainty, et cetera, have continued to do kinda like some of our customers bridge work instead of extending the existing incumbents instead of instead of having a competition. And that's where we're thinking that now that they have stability, some visibility in their budget for some time, that they'll be able to move on with it and get some of those procurements. So we still just have not had, you know, a large volume of bid opportunities. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:22:04You know, we had one bid opportunity for the entire month of January, and, you know, that's just really, really trickling. And that one's a small one. So, you know, we have our needle mover deals, which we invest a lot in, and we really push to drive a high win probability, and we have some of those that come from some of these MAC IDIQs. Some many of those are much smaller. But we're really feeling pretty encouraged that a number of the major needle movers for us now will start to get some stability. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:22:39We're still actively working to make sure that some of those that were earmarked for CIO-SP4 and successor predecessor CIO-SP3, that we're well positioned on the GSA Schedules and OASIS, of which we think will be two of those where would allow us to prime. But when they've moved, a couple have moved to some vehicles where we were not prime, it's very disappointing. Some of the customers just have not had the influence as they thought they would have with the acquisition shop, but we're continuing to monitor that very closely. Yeah. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:23:16But getting that certainty, the key takeaway, as you set it up, Joe, is, we view that as positive, that to get certainty, even if it isn't the way we would have done it, it's really distracting from a resource perspective and not cost-effective to be trying to support and straddle all possible paths. So for us, you know, just give us an answer, give us clarity, we can pivot and get ourselves organized to address that way. And so as Zach mentioned, while we're certainly majorly disappointed that CIO-SP4 has gone away as a vehicle, it's good to just have the clarity. It's been dangling for 3 years now, so at least 3, probably longer than that. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:24:01So it's good to have the clarity, and while some things did drain off and go to vehicles we're not primed to or positioned to prime on, the overwhelming majority of those opportunities appear headed places that we can and will compete as a prime. So it's good to have resolution of that strategy and to be able to move out on responding to it, you know, and pivoting our strategy to address the path it's gonna come out on, so that we can get on with it already. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:24:32... Yeah, and one adjunct to that, Joe, is that we're seeing a major movement by a number of our customers, including Department of War, to leverage more commercial best practice vehicles and approaches. You know, we've referred to OTAs, other transaction authorities, as something that has been viable and certainly demonstrated during COVID to be a viable means to get some of these bids out faster. What you're gonna see is what we are seeing is a number of these vehicles start with a pilot that is a much smaller dollar value for the awardee, and then you move from pilot to true execution. And so, the revenue profile and the value of the awarded contract will shift a little bit, but we're preparing for that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:25:26We've been well prepared for that. We've made some down selects on a couple of those already. But we're gonna see in the industry a pretty heavy move towards not using our traditional RFP contracting model. That just takes so long for the government to get this in place. And this administration is really, really keen to cut through those delays and to use more commercial best practices. So stay tuned on that. We'll talk a little bit around that as well during our upcoming annual meeting on the acquisition environment and our pipeline. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:26:03Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll get back in queue and someone else ask a few. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:26:10Appreciate it, Joe. Operator00:26:13Again, if you have a question, please press Star, then one. The next question comes from Bert Osterweis with Osterweis Business Consultation. Please go ahead. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:26:31Good morning, Bert. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:26:33Good morning. Good morning, Zach and Kathryn. Hope you're doing well. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:26:36How about yourself? Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:26:38A little cold up here in Massachusetts, but all right. I was reading the annual report, and in a number of places, it states that we solve complex problems for civilian and government clients alike. But I only ever hear about the government clients. I was wondering more who those civilian clients are. And Zach, you mentioned in your—I think what you just said, the last answer was about a focus of more commercial type of jobs or commercial type of going after the jobs. And I know, Kathryn, you said it's not possible to pursue all possible paths. It's not financially viable, but it almost seems like these civilian customers are easier to go after. And so I was wondering, first, who they are, and second, is that something we can focus on more? Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:27:32Sure. No, great question. First of all, we probably should have a clarification of that, because, while we do work with the Defense Health Agency, the Department of Defense, in particular in the command, C5ISR arena, C6ISR arena, we are in the federal government space, we really refer to the civilian agencies that are still federal government, right? And those include, customers like the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, ASPR, would include, DHS and other agencies. They're still federal clients. Now, and so that's really what we're referring to on the macro for us, that we have civilian agencies and then those that are aligned with defense. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:28:23The other point, though, that you raised is commercial work, and we do have a small book of business, small bit of business, with commercial. We're doing some of that work through partnerships with universities. And we do believe that there's an incubator area that lends itself for us to be able to work with more commercial companies. It's not gonna be a major portion of our business. Kathryn and I have long stood and held the position that if we're gonna try to move into that market in a meaningful way, it would be led probably with an acquisition. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:29:01But we do have some adjacencies where we've been doing work, leveraging relationships with the federal government that have led us to doing some work, usually grant funded, with the commercial community, and within our public health and scientific research organization. We are looking to perhaps try to pull a little more of that business in-house. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:29:26Thanks. Thanks, Zach. I was thinking, biotech firms and things like that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:29:31It is biotech, Eric. You're actually- Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:29:33Yeah. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:29:34You're right spot on. It is in that arena that we have been doing some of that work. We've had some talent on our staff, on Jeanine Christian's staff, that have worked with the biotech and biopharma community, and we're looking to see if we can parlay that as well. We've just brought on a new resource that has tremendous reputation and experiences with FDA, and you know, as such, it also worked closely with the biotech community. So we're taking a fresh look at that as a potential account for us. Right now, it's just targeted opportunities, specific opportunities, but it could develop into an account by years in. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:30:18Yeah, those commercial enterprises need to access that government approval queue, and it's often an inscrutable- Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:30:25Mm-hmm. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:30:26protracted process for them, and so they're happy to opportunistically leverage our capability to help steer them through that. But as Zach said, that would be, that'd be in the course of relationship building and opportunistic avenues, but not really something that we're gonna, we're prepared to invest a lot of money in pursuing commercial opportunities. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:30:51The other part of that, though, to your point, Bert, is we need to make sure that even though our 99% of our book of business is with the federal government, we need to be able to operate at speed like commercial companies. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:31:04Hundred percent. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:31:05Truly commercial companies. We have, and we believe that the administration is removing some of those barriers and allowing companies and customers that have interest and capabilities to be able to move at speed consistent with commercial companies. And so again, we're taking a look at leveraging some of these OTA-type vehicles and our ability to, you know, leverage what has been our heritage, and that's to be able to be far more agile than a lot of our large tier one companies to be able to be tremendously responsive and operate more like a commercially aligned company. Please look for more of that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:31:53That often will mean our pipeline will look a little bit different with speed and smaller, startup sort of programs, a little bit less of five-year booked values, but they offer the same organic growth profiles and trajectories that we have had otherwise, just a more rapid deployment. And we've developed some of our tools, so we can do rapid prototyping, and that's gonna help us in a number of areas where clients wanna build a little, test a little, and then make a longer commitment. And we think we're well-positioned with some of our digital sandbox opportunities and our Cyclone platforms to demonstrate and move quickly from prototype to development and deployment. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:32:43Thanks. One last question. Is there anything in our government contracts which prohibits us from going after civilian contracts or commercial contracts? Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:32:56No, nothing that precludes it at all. It is a very different, regulated environment. From time to time, you'll see things like you hear this administration talk about, most favored nation kind of rates. In some cases in our world, you know, we have to look at where the best, what am I looking for, Kathryn? The rate schedules with- Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:19Right. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:20That we offer to company, but no regulatory, formalized regulatory constraints. Anything to add? Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:33:26Thanks. Okay. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:26Right. It's really just a function, more so of it's a distinctly different kind of sales model, and so you have to kind of weigh out your options for investing in that kind of a sales force, if you will, commercial sales force, versus the model that makes sense in the government context. But, yeah, there are some specific boutique opportunities that we're aware of and that we're leveraging. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:33:56Okay, thanks for, thanks for that. Have a great day. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:59Look forward to seeing you. Operator00:34:03At this point, there are no further questions in the queue. I would like to turn the conference back to Mr. Parker for any closing remarks. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:34:11Once again, I wanna thank everyone for participating in our call today and for being good stewards of the DLH equity stakes. We are really, really committed, remain committed to giving you good visibility into the future and look forward to seeing and chatting with you all at the upcoming annual meeting. With that, everyone, have a blessed day, and we'll connect again soon. Bye for now. Operator00:34:40The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesChris WittyInvestor Relations AdvisorZachary ParkerPresident and CEOAnalystsBert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital ManagementJoe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE CapitalKathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings CorpPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) DLH Earnings HeadlinesDLH Holdings Corp. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the DLH Holdings Fiscal 2026 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key, followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chris Witty, Investor Relations Advisor. Please go ahead. Chris WittyInvestor Relations Advisor at DLH Holdings Corp00:00:35Thank you, and good morning, everyone. On the call with me today is Zach Parker, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kathryn JohnBull, Chief Financial Officer. The company's earnings release and PowerPoint presentation are available on our website under the Investor page. I would now like to provide a brief safe harbor statement, which is also shown on slide three of the presentation. This call may include forward-looking statements that relate to the company's outlook for fiscal 2026 and beyond. These statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from such statements. Please refer to the risk factors contained in the company's annual report on Form 10-K, and in our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. Chris WittyInvestor Relations Advisor at DLH Holdings Corp00:01:21On today's call, we'll be referencing both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of our non-GAAP results to our reported GAAP results is included in our earnings release and in the investor presentation on DLH's website. President and CEO, Zach Parker, will speak next, followed by CFO Kathryn JohnBull. After which, we'll open it up for questions. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Zach. Please go ahead, Zach. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:01:44Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our first quarter conference call. I am pleased for the opportunity to report our financial results and provide color regarding the current environment and outlook. Now, turning to slide 4, I'll provide an overview of our achievements and outlook. The first quarter was marked by the longest government shutdown in our nation's history, followed by a short-term funding gap at the end of January. However, the recently enacted budget provides increased funding capacity and improved visibility for our clients for the remainder of the fiscal year across our markets. We expect that to be a positive impact. Notably, key federal health agencies received funding increases compared to the fiscal 2025 levels, reversing, in part, previously disclosed funding reductions to our current and addressable markets. We believe this improved clarity and stability meaningfully support the company's organic growth initiatives. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:02:49This budget stability comes at an opportune time for DLH as we continue to see improving demand across our core markets. Defense and intelligence customers are emphasizing rapid delivery, cost efficiency, digital modernization, and advanced technology integration through the application of command control, communications, computers, cyber defense, and combat systems with intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, known as C6ISR expertise. At the same time, federal health agencies continue to prioritize system interoperability, cybersecurity, including Zero Trust applications, cloud migration, and AI adoption, which position DLH competitively well for modernization-driven awards. These are areas that leverage our strengths, our capabilities, and our innovative proprietary tools, as discussed previously, to enhance productivity on current work while elevating our competitive position on organic growth opportunities. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:03:56While revenue was down year-over-year, largely due to the, our previously discussed program transitions to small business set-aside contracts, such as the VA CMOP and Head Start, we are seeing improved visibility and are encouraged by the midterm outlook. More importantly, we delivered sequential improvement in adjusted EBITDA margins from the fourth quarter, as Kathryn will discuss in more detail shortly. We remain firmly focused on expanding efficiencies and margins and improving overall returns as the year progresses and award decisions are made. We also continue to execute on our commitment to deleveraging the balance sheet. As is typical in the first quarter, debt increased modestly, driven primarily by the timing of labor and payroll tax repayments around public holidays. That said, we remain on track with our debt reduction plans for fiscal 2026. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:04:59Overall, we remain well positioned to succeed over the coming years, including competing effectively for high organic value opportunities within a healthy and expansive addressable market. Our differentiated technology application capabilities, tools, and workforce align exceptionally well to position us for our three strategic pillars. Those are digital transformation and cybersecurity, science, research, and development, and systems engineering and integration. Importantly, the improved clarity around the fiscal 2026 budget, combined with our broad portfolio of contract vehicles, bodes well for DLH's long-term growth outlook. We remain committed to continued investment in the talent, tools, and technologies required to meet the evolving, complex needs of our customers across each of our core markets.... Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:06:04Our customers leverage our capabilities to access leading-edge processing speeds, digital sandbox environments, tailored integrations with COTS products and technologies, advanced data science, and actionable visualizations and dashboards that support mission-critical decision-making. While the government services market has experienced meaningful disruption this year, driven by delays in contract solicitations and awards and previously uncertain budget visibility, we have continued to use this period to transform DLH in a positive way. Today, we are technology, we are a technology, engineering, and scientific solutions provider that is extremely well-positioned to compete for the opportunities of the future. As we work to enhance our organic profile, we will remain disciplined in reducing our indirect costs and managing our capital deployment. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:07:09The management team and I are confident that DLH is on track to exit fiscal 2026 in a much stronger position than than we began, and we are encouraged by what lies ahead. Before I close, I would like to recognize the performance of our deep and highly credentialed workforce. In a challenging environment, we lean on the passion, ingenuity, and expertise of our staff to succeed. This past quarter, you once again surmounted extraordinary challenges in support of our customers. As always, thank you to everyone at DLH for your commitment to excellence that you demonstrated each day. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Kathryn JohnBull. Kathryn? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:08:05Thank you, Zach, and good morning, everyone. We're pleased to report our first quarter results for fiscal 2026. Turning to Slide 6, I'd first like to provide a high-level overview of some key financial metrics for the three months ended December 31, 2025. We reported revenue of $68.9 million in the first quarter versus $90.8 million in the prior year period, reflecting contributions from expansion on existing contracts, offset by the impact of conversion of certain programs to small business set-aside contracts, as discussed in the past, and certain government efficiency initiatives. In total, the revenue contraction was mostly due to small business set-aside conversions, primarily from CMOP and Head Start, with an approximate $18 million decrease in the quarter versus fiscal 2025. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:09:01We reported Adjusted EBITDA of $6.5 million for the quarter, compared to $9.9 million in the prior year period, with the decrease primarily driven by lower revenue levels, partially offset by effective management of indirect costs as we aligned our cost structure with reduced volume. Importantly, Adjusted EBITDA margin improved sequentially to 9.5% for the quarter. Our cost-scaling initiatives continue into the second quarter, including further reductions in indirect spend in anticipation of future CMOP site transitions, and we expect the impact of these actions to become more evident in our second quarter results. From a free cash flow standpoint, we used approximately $4.8 million during the quarter, which is typical for the first quarter, given seasonal increases in working capital requirements. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:09:56Importantly, this represents a significant improvement compared to last year's use of $12.1 million of free cash flow, which reflected delays in the collection of an unusually high level of receivables. As Zach mentioned earlier, the primary driver of cash usage this quarter was the timing of labor and payroll taxes around the public holidays at the end of the year. Now, turning to Slide 7, I'll wrap up with a summary of our debt reduction efforts, which remain a key area of focus for DLH. As a result of the first quarter working capital requirements I mentioned earlier, including the impact of the government shutdown, debt increased during the quarter to $136.6 million. We remain well ahead of our mandatory term repayment schedule and in full compliance with all financial covenants. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:10:48Looking ahead, we expect to convert approximately 50%-55% of EBITDA generated during fiscal 2026 to reduce debt by year-end. As our investors know, we take deleveraging very seriously and have a strong track record of execution, even though the uncertainty of the past few years related to the runoff of small business set-aside programs. We remain more than adequately capitalized to support our growth strategy and now have greater visibility into the year ahead than in prior quarters. As the year progresses, we look forward to improvement in our operating fundamentals and organic growth initiatives. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to our operator to open it for questions. Operator00:11:36Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. Please go ahead. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:12:07... Good morning. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:12:09Good morning, Joe! Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:12:09Good morning, Joe. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:12:12Kathryn, just, you said about $18 million of the delta in the revenue decline was from CMOP and Head Start, and that would leave about $4 million still unaccounted for. What was the other $4 million? Where did that get lost? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:12:32Yeah, it's what we have referred to as the nicks and the nibbles of the DOGE initiatives that happened in the early part of fiscal 25, somewhat after December, but you know in Q2 of fiscal 25. Also, the wrap-up of that little single international project that we had that completed in January of 2025. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:13:01USAID. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:13:02Yeah, USAID project. So it is a sundry of smaller impacts that were not strategic and not related to the small business set aside. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:13:13And Joe, those were, those were what as Kathryn indicated, they were a little bit smaller because those are, were, the effect of unbundling contracts, right? So that they were able to make more work available also to small businesses or other contract vehicles that were, had been in existence. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:13:35Okay, thank you for that. And on the CMOP, I know we had four contracts at the end of last year, and one they had recently awarded somebody else. I think two more were out for bid. Any update on the two that were out? Have they been awarded any timing as to when they might transition, and anything new on the last remaining location? Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:05Well, we believe we'll be—we're really in the wind down phase across the board for the CMOP work. The VA has gotten a more, you know, a little battle rhythm set for being able to do some of the transitions, complete their evaluations, a little more timely fashion, and to move into transition phase. We have been leaning very aggressively and supportive of making those transitions. The specifics on the contract coverage, I'll turn over to Kathryn. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:39I, uh- Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:40Go ahead. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:14:40Yeah, no, I think that's the right way to think about it. As we indicated, as early as the first quarter of 2025, we certainly expected the completion of the CMOP work to be near term. And as Zach said, the cadence now that there seems to be a pretty manageable process for making those transitions, we are looking at probably a complete wrap-up of CMOP in Q3 of this current fiscal year. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:15:14Okay, thank you for that. And when you talk about the cost reductions that you've taken so far, one, was there any cost to those, and where would that show up on the income statement? And two, is that inclusive of the expected CMOP losses, or will you need to do additional cost out once all three of those contracts transition? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:15:45Yeah. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:15:45Yeah, let me kick it off and I'll let Kathryn handle the specifics. So when we exited 2024, we kinda laid out, at least internally and with our board, a game plan around this reset, right? The reset of the decline in business that we had been communicating that would result from CMOP and some of the unbundling and bundling of other contracts in small business set aside. While at the same time, we're anticipating, you know, more bid opportunities and wins throughout 2025. So we had looked at what we kinda call a V curve and managing that for exiting 2024 and then throughout 2025. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:16:24The delays, obviously, as Kathryn indicated, and the opportunity, bid opportunities during 25, due to all the challenges we've discussed, had really necessitated that we made sure we had a plan that was flexible and would be phased for indirect reduction. We have implemented two major components of that indirect reduction. It's very important for us to maintain a competitive indirect cost profile to be able to compete organically, and that's been a key driver for us while we've been managing the phase out of these contracts, including those that still continue for CMOP. So, we've had a management plan to make sure we can do those indirect reductions. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:17:13At the same time, I would tell you, we've been implementing new measures to drive efficiencies, applying some of the tools we do for our customers, AI, ML, and things of that nature, to drive efficiencies in, in executing not only for our customers, but also for our enterprise. And we're gonna continue to look at deploying that. We've got a project or two that has some of that running out through this, the remainder of this fiscal year, where we can enhance it and augment the caliber of services by our, our folks using some of these tools. We think those efficiencies will also help us in the long run. Kathryn, you wanna get, answer a couple of the specifics on the timing and, and GAAP impact? Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:17:55Yes, to your, to your question, Joe, about whether the cost of those, those reductions is factored in or where does it show up? That, that is reflected in our Q1 results. Both the impact of the reduction in cost as well as the cost of achieving those reductions is all reflected in the Q1 financials. And is also then considered as part of the crosswalk from standard EBITDA to adjusted EBITDA. In other words, that, that adjustment reflects as if those reductions had taken place at the beginning of the quarter. I'm sure you can appreciate that those have to be thought through and take some implementation time and so therefore happened midway in the quarter. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:18:45In terms of addressing the change in volume of CMOP specifically, that's part of the overall program, and we have scaled costs related to supporting CMOP as CMOP has made its journey downward. But we do, of course, still carry some costs for running the remaining locations, but we will scale it in the appropriate timeframe, along with the changes in revenue volume, just as we do for the volume of business for the entire enterprise. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:19:18Okay, thanks. And one more from me. I mean, you know, sounds, you know, we might still be starting to see some positivity here on the pipeline and bidding activity. Just wondering, you know, Zach, you know, we got named to a number of IDIQ contracts. Have they just not been putting anything out for bid or not stuff that, you know, DLH is bidding on? You know, or have there been some projects out there that you've been on, just have not, you know, won? I mean, has the, I guess, kinda the hit rate, you know, of awards for you guys, is that, you know, staying steady or is that declined? I mean, maybe a little more insight into the market opportunity out there and how DLH is faring in that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:20:13You bet, Joe, and we are planning on giving a deep color as we have historically, from time to time on that pipeline during our upcoming annual meeting with the shareholders. But to your point, yes, we've a little bit of each, right? So we've had in terms of the major IDIQs and the MAC IDIQs, the most recent news, of course, is CIO-SP4 has been canceled. And as we had stated before, we saw that as a very attractive and viable vehicle for us, with a number of opportunities that we had anticipated being able to bid in 2025, that would allow us to start to generate some revenue, you know, around this time period. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:21:00Some of those jobs, you know, then some of our customers had moved to other vehicles already anticipating that CIO-SP4 was not gonna be viable. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:21:12Right. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:21:13And so we've had a couple of erosions to our pipeline attributed to work moving to a vehicle which we could not prime. That's had some impact, and while at the same time, I'd have to say the biggest key has been customers, given the budget uncertainty, et cetera, have continued to do kinda like some of our customers bridge work instead of extending the existing incumbents instead of instead of having a competition. And that's where we're thinking that now that they have stability, some visibility in their budget for some time, that they'll be able to move on with it and get some of those procurements. So we still just have not had, you know, a large volume of bid opportunities. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:22:04You know, we had one bid opportunity for the entire month of January, and, you know, that's just really, really trickling. And that one's a small one. So, you know, we have our needle mover deals, which we invest a lot in, and we really push to drive a high win probability, and we have some of those that come from some of these MAC IDIQs. Some many of those are much smaller. But we're really feeling pretty encouraged that a number of the major needle movers for us now will start to get some stability. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:22:39We're still actively working to make sure that some of those that were earmarked for CIO-SP4 and successor predecessor CIO-SP3, that we're well positioned on the GSA Schedules and OASIS, of which we think will be two of those where would allow us to prime. But when they've moved, a couple have moved to some vehicles where we were not prime, it's very disappointing. Some of the customers just have not had the influence as they thought they would have with the acquisition shop, but we're continuing to monitor that very closely. Yeah. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:23:16But getting that certainty, the key takeaway, as you set it up, Joe, is, we view that as positive, that to get certainty, even if it isn't the way we would have done it, it's really distracting from a resource perspective and not cost-effective to be trying to support and straddle all possible paths. So for us, you know, just give us an answer, give us clarity, we can pivot and get ourselves organized to address that way. And so as Zach mentioned, while we're certainly majorly disappointed that CIO-SP4 has gone away as a vehicle, it's good to just have the clarity. It's been dangling for 3 years now, so at least 3, probably longer than that. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:24:01So it's good to have the clarity, and while some things did drain off and go to vehicles we're not primed to or positioned to prime on, the overwhelming majority of those opportunities appear headed places that we can and will compete as a prime. So it's good to have resolution of that strategy and to be able to move out on responding to it, you know, and pivoting our strategy to address the path it's gonna come out on, so that we can get on with it already. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:24:32... Yeah, and one adjunct to that, Joe, is that we're seeing a major movement by a number of our customers, including Department of War, to leverage more commercial best practice vehicles and approaches. You know, we've referred to OTAs, other transaction authorities, as something that has been viable and certainly demonstrated during COVID to be a viable means to get some of these bids out faster. What you're gonna see is what we are seeing is a number of these vehicles start with a pilot that is a much smaller dollar value for the awardee, and then you move from pilot to true execution. And so, the revenue profile and the value of the awarded contract will shift a little bit, but we're preparing for that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:25:26We've been well prepared for that. We've made some down selects on a couple of those already. But we're gonna see in the industry a pretty heavy move towards not using our traditional RFP contracting model. That just takes so long for the government to get this in place. And this administration is really, really keen to cut through those delays and to use more commercial best practices. So stay tuned on that. We'll talk a little bit around that as well during our upcoming annual meeting on the acquisition environment and our pipeline. Joe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE Capital00:26:03Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll get back in queue and someone else ask a few. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:26:10Appreciate it, Joe. Operator00:26:13Again, if you have a question, please press Star, then one. The next question comes from Bert Osterweis with Osterweis Business Consultation. Please go ahead. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:26:31Good morning, Bert. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:26:33Good morning. Good morning, Zach and Kathryn. Hope you're doing well. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:26:36How about yourself? Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:26:38A little cold up here in Massachusetts, but all right. I was reading the annual report, and in a number of places, it states that we solve complex problems for civilian and government clients alike. But I only ever hear about the government clients. I was wondering more who those civilian clients are. And Zach, you mentioned in your—I think what you just said, the last answer was about a focus of more commercial type of jobs or commercial type of going after the jobs. And I know, Kathryn, you said it's not possible to pursue all possible paths. It's not financially viable, but it almost seems like these civilian customers are easier to go after. And so I was wondering, first, who they are, and second, is that something we can focus on more? Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:27:32Sure. No, great question. First of all, we probably should have a clarification of that, because, while we do work with the Defense Health Agency, the Department of Defense, in particular in the command, C5ISR arena, C6ISR arena, we are in the federal government space, we really refer to the civilian agencies that are still federal government, right? And those include, customers like the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, ASPR, would include, DHS and other agencies. They're still federal clients. Now, and so that's really what we're referring to on the macro for us, that we have civilian agencies and then those that are aligned with defense. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:28:23The other point, though, that you raised is commercial work, and we do have a small book of business, small bit of business, with commercial. We're doing some of that work through partnerships with universities. And we do believe that there's an incubator area that lends itself for us to be able to work with more commercial companies. It's not gonna be a major portion of our business. Kathryn and I have long stood and held the position that if we're gonna try to move into that market in a meaningful way, it would be led probably with an acquisition. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:29:01But we do have some adjacencies where we've been doing work, leveraging relationships with the federal government that have led us to doing some work, usually grant funded, with the commercial community, and within our public health and scientific research organization. We are looking to perhaps try to pull a little more of that business in-house. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:29:26Thanks. Thanks, Zach. I was thinking, biotech firms and things like that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:29:31It is biotech, Eric. You're actually- Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:29:33Yeah. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:29:34You're right spot on. It is in that arena that we have been doing some of that work. We've had some talent on our staff, on Jeanine Christian's staff, that have worked with the biotech and biopharma community, and we're looking to see if we can parlay that as well. We've just brought on a new resource that has tremendous reputation and experiences with FDA, and you know, as such, it also worked closely with the biotech community. So we're taking a fresh look at that as a potential account for us. Right now, it's just targeted opportunities, specific opportunities, but it could develop into an account by years in. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:30:18Yeah, those commercial enterprises need to access that government approval queue, and it's often an inscrutable- Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:30:25Mm-hmm. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:30:26protracted process for them, and so they're happy to opportunistically leverage our capability to help steer them through that. But as Zach said, that would be, that'd be in the course of relationship building and opportunistic avenues, but not really something that we're gonna, we're prepared to invest a lot of money in pursuing commercial opportunities. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:30:51The other part of that, though, to your point, Bert, is we need to make sure that even though our 99% of our book of business is with the federal government, we need to be able to operate at speed like commercial companies. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:31:04Hundred percent. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:31:05Truly commercial companies. We have, and we believe that the administration is removing some of those barriers and allowing companies and customers that have interest and capabilities to be able to move at speed consistent with commercial companies. And so again, we're taking a look at leveraging some of these OTA-type vehicles and our ability to, you know, leverage what has been our heritage, and that's to be able to be far more agile than a lot of our large tier one companies to be able to be tremendously responsive and operate more like a commercially aligned company. Please look for more of that. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:31:53That often will mean our pipeline will look a little bit different with speed and smaller, startup sort of programs, a little bit less of five-year booked values, but they offer the same organic growth profiles and trajectories that we have had otherwise, just a more rapid deployment. And we've developed some of our tools, so we can do rapid prototyping, and that's gonna help us in a number of areas where clients wanna build a little, test a little, and then make a longer commitment. And we think we're well-positioned with some of our digital sandbox opportunities and our Cyclone platforms to demonstrate and move quickly from prototype to development and deployment. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:32:43Thanks. One last question. Is there anything in our government contracts which prohibits us from going after civilian contracts or commercial contracts? Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:32:56No, nothing that precludes it at all. It is a very different, regulated environment. From time to time, you'll see things like you hear this administration talk about, most favored nation kind of rates. In some cases in our world, you know, we have to look at where the best, what am I looking for, Kathryn? The rate schedules with- Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:19Right. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:20That we offer to company, but no regulatory, formalized regulatory constraints. Anything to add? Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:33:26Thanks. Okay. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:26Right. It's really just a function, more so of it's a distinctly different kind of sales model, and so you have to kind of weigh out your options for investing in that kind of a sales force, if you will, commercial sales force, versus the model that makes sense in the government context. But, yeah, there are some specific boutique opportunities that we're aware of and that we're leveraging. Bert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital Management00:33:56Okay, thanks for, thanks for that. Have a great day. Kathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings Corp00:33:59Look forward to seeing you. Operator00:34:03At this point, there are no further questions in the queue. I would like to turn the conference back to Mr. Parker for any closing remarks. Zachary ParkerPresident and CEO at DLH Holdings Corp00:34:11Once again, I wanna thank everyone for participating in our call today and for being good stewards of the DLH equity stakes. We are really, really committed, remain committed to giving you good visibility into the future and look forward to seeing and chatting with you all at the upcoming annual meeting. With that, everyone, have a blessed day, and we'll connect again soon. Bye for now. Operator00:34:40The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesChris WittyInvestor Relations AdvisorZachary ParkerPresident and CEOAnalystsBert OsterweisPrivate Investor at Osterweis Capital ManagementJoe GomesSenior Research Analyst at NOBLE CapitalKathryn JohnBullCFO at DLH Holdings CorpPowered by