TSE:DCM DATA Communications Management Q4 2025 Earnings Report C$1.68 +0.01 (+0.60%) As of 03:18 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast DATA Communications Management EPS ResultsActual EPSC$0.01Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ADATA Communications Management Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$107.52 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADATA Communications Management Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date3/11/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, March 12, 2026Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by DATA Communications Management Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 12, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Negative Sentiment: Revenue declined about 6.2% year‑over‑year, driven by lower spend from large enterprise customers and slow ramp of new business, with product/print sales and warehousing volumes most affected. Positive Sentiment: Management delivered strong profitability and cash generation — CAD 60.4M adjusted EBITDA (13.4% margin), CAD 13.4M free cash flow (up ~145%), returned ~CAD 17.6M to shareholders and reduced net leverage to below 2x. Positive Sentiment: Digital and AI momentum — tech services grew ~4.2% to ~CAD 21M (~5% of revenue), the Content Cloud AI DAM product is live with recent government wins, and AI is being used across operations to boost productivity. Negative Sentiment: Ongoing industry pressures — the Canada Post labor disruption, tariff uncertainty and heightened price sensitivity in commercial print compressed gross margins and weighed on revenue, though management says Canada Post effects are largely behind them. Positive Sentiment: Management priorities and optionality for 2026 focus on maintaining high retention, improving gross margin through mix and efficiencies, accelerating digital, and pursuing an opportunistic M&A pipeline with a well‑capitalized balance sheet. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallDATA Communications Management Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the DATA Communications Management Corp Fiscal 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. I'm James Lorimer, CFO of DCM, and I'm pleased to be hosting today's call. Joining me on the call today is Richard Kellam, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we will be moderating a Q&A session. As a reminder, this conference call is being broadcast live and recorded. We'd also like to remind everyone that Richard and I could be available after the call for any follow-up questions that you might have. Before we begin, I will remind everyone that we will be referring to forward-looking information on today's call. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:00:45This information is subject to certain risks and uncertainties as outlined in the forward-looking information disclosure in our press release, and more fully within our public disclosure filings on SEDAR+. This presentation will be added to our website for your reference, along with a post-view recording and transcript. The detailed information is also available on our website and SEDAR+. Please follow us on LinkedIn to keep up to date with other business developments. I'll now turn the call over to Richard. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:01:15Good morning and good afternoon, good evening to anybody joining from other time zones. Our agenda this morning is very clear. We're just gonna hit the highlights of 25, talk about some capital allocation, look at our priorities and turn it over to Q&A. Thank you, James. First, I've got a summary of our highlights and, say, anybody looking at this slide, our key theme on the year was controlling the controllables, and there was a lot of controllables we need to control. Looking at revenue results, everybody saw that our release, read our release came out last night. The revenue decline was pretty much in line with consensus at -0.62% on the year. That really was reflecting lower spend on several large enterprise accounts. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:02:05As shareholders know, about 93%–94% of our revenue comes from large enterprise. A lot of those large enterprise accounts obviously had some headwinds, and we did not offset that with new customers, although we did bring in several new customers, just given time to revenue, which, as you know, is long in our business. With that said, we did a very good job controlling the controllables and our adjusted EBITDA came in at CAD 60.4 million and 13.4% margin. That was really due to the spending discipline mitigating the declines in some of the gross profit, and obviously the revenue, you know, headwinds we experienced. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:02:55We also generated strong free cash flow, well up over a year ago, and you'll see that in a chart coming up shortly, of CAD 13.4 million. We've done a, I'd say, a very good job returning capital to shareholders. Again, you'll see a chart coming up. Our capital return to shareholders is about CAD 17.6 million in the year. On the uncertainty side, again, we worked hard to manage through some market uncertainty, and, you know, you saw that through the quarters. The tariff uncertainty and that impacting budgets in large enterprise accounts. We obviously had the uncertainty and the unexpected headwind from the Canada Post labor disruption. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:03:42Canada Post is a large client of DCM's, as well as the knock-on effect to all the other clients we service from a mailing perspective. That certainly impacted our year. Thankfully, that's behind us, as we'll talk about in the 2026 outlook. We did a very good job, as I said earlier, of managing and mitigating some of the revenue headwinds with operational efficiencies and driving SG&A productivity. You'll see in a chart coming up that we actually reduced SG&A by CAD 7.8 million in the year. On the digital and AI activities that we're delivering to the business, we've had some very good success in the year. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:04:27We actually grew our tech services revenues by 4.2%, so, you know, obviously well above what we experienced on our core print business. We're now about CAD 21 million in tech services revenues, and that's almost 5% of total revenue. Shareholders may remember that we launched Content Cloud, our AI-powered digital asset management solutions. We're proud of getting that to market, the success we're delivering. We've got good momentum with several verticals, but one in particular are the government and municipal services. We were just up against a pretty large RFP and pretty large competitive shootout, and we secured a good piece of business there on government. We're finding our lane and securing some good wins there. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:05:19From an operational perspective, and from a commercial perspective, we're using a lot of AI in our workflows today to drive productivity improvements. I'd say we're all in on AI from an operational perspective and from a commercial perspective as well. Finally, we've been building a good solid M&A pipeline now that all of our restructuring integration, IT integration is behind us. We can now look to opportunities for M&A, and we've been building that pipeline. The market is good. Certainly, the macro uncertainty is creating some opportunities on the south side, and we're well-capitalized to consider any M&A as we work through 2026. Overall, we managed well through the market uncertainty we experienced. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:06:10The team did an excellent job to kind of manage those headwinds and maintain profitability while also returning significant cash to shareholders. That's kinda the overall highlights, and we'll get into a few details as we flip through the file here. James. Okay. From a revenue perspective, as I said, minus 6.2% for all the reasons I said. If you do look at this chart, and you look over five years, you do see, you know, despite the revenue headwinds we experienced in 2025, we're still managing a business that is twice the size, almost twice the size of what it was in 2023, and managing it quite successfully. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:06:56Obviously, you know, we'll see those revenue headwinds turn to tailwinds, and then we'll have a nice, you know, kinda virtuous circle over time as well, but business is still solid. There's been no material losses in clients, and again, you can see from this chart that we're still managing a very sizable business, north of CAD 450 million in revenue. Gross profit, obviously, with factory overhead recoveries and utilization was impacted. You can see that, just around CAD 117 million in gross profit, gross margin of around 26%. We'll see that come back as revenue growth returns. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:07:44We've built a perfect footprint, operational footprint to now grow from, and we'll see that naturally kinda return to historical levels as we have revenue come back into our business, or revenue growth come back into our business. Okay. Just adjusted EBITDA, as I said earlier, you know, we're happy with the delivery of CAD 60 million. It's pretty much in line with consensus. Still slightly down versus a year ago. A year ago was our high water mark, of course. Down for all the reasons I said due to the headwinds. Again, if you look at over the course of the last 5 years, we're up 70% over that horizon. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:08:26as I said earlier, with the operational efficiencies, the consolidation of our network that we've completed and the return to revenue, you'll see that turn into a nice kind of virtuous circle, as we call it, where margins will improve. Not a lot of restructuring in our plans, so you'll see a natural improvement in EBITDA as that revenue comes back into our mix. James, free cash flow. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:08:55We had a solid year in terms of free cash flow. We delivered CAD 13.4 million, up about 145% over last year. A lot of the CapEx that we invested in, particularly in 2024 to modernize and upgrade some facilities following the MCC acquisition and integration is largely behind us. We see CapEx kind of being in similar levels to what we saw in 2025 going forward. Solid balance sheet. We continue to pay down debt. Our leverage just below 2 times net debt to EBITDA at the end of the year, and that's down 2.2% on a net debt basis compared to last year, and significantly, almost 50% since the MCC acquisition. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:09:48This is in addition, I guess, complementing the returns to shareholders that we completed last year. Credit facility, we have solid lines and certainly a good balance sheet to pursue M&A activity and continue our capital return plans. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:10:13Supporting a comment that I made earlier about our productivity improvements and our headcount, you know, great kinda rigorous headcount management, you can see in this chart, you know, productivity has improved considerably. Headcount was down 4% this year, and our headcount is down 22% over the last 3 years. You can see that our SG&A, as I mentioned earlier, down 9% or CAD 7.8 million. A good job controlling the controllables and continue to manage, you know, productivity, effectiveness, and efficiency of our teams. Really, you know, pleased with the progress we made there as an organization. You can see that our percentage on SG&A is down below 18% now, which is sort of what we put in plan a couple of years ago. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:11:05From a capital allocation perspective, we deployed a little over CAD 21.8 million of capital last year. That included a special dividend that we announced in the Q1 of last year, as well as regular recurring CAD 0.025 per share dividend. You can see that the total capital deployed of CAD 21.8 million is up over last year, but a big portion of that is dividends and we commenced a Normal Course Issuer Bid last year in June. In aggregate, we did return approximately CAD 17.6 million of capital through the special dividend and the quarterly dividend paid out last year, as well as about CAD 1 million worth of share repurchases. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:12:01Current kind of trading levels, we're trading about a 6.8% dividend yield. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:12:08Okay, moving on to 2026, which we're well into now, obviously. Some of the outlook, early signs, there's certainly some early signs of market stabilization. Demand trends are beginning to stabilize. Obviously, the Canada Post disruption is behind us, and we're starting to see clients now returning to some of the discretionary mailings that they were doing. You know, the personalized direct mail as an example, we're starting to see that return into the business mix this year. We've got a lot of new business activity. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:12:50Some of the work that we did last year that I said is longer term and longer time to revenue will start flowing through into our business this year, as well as some good, you know, what we call horizon one, so kind of in-year revenue opportunities that the team is working to deliver as well. We like to say that execution is a strategy, so we will stay relentlessly focused on execution. Still a little uncertainty around tariffs, but we know how to mitigate and manage through that. As James mentioned earlier, we do have a very strong balance sheet, and cost discipline to provide us that resiliency and flexibility as we progress through the year. Our priorities for 2026, these are four key priorities for us throughout the business. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:13:42One is to maintain high revenue retention, high revenue retention rate. You know, I said there's no regrettable losses in our business and execute on new customer development initiatives, as well as opportunities to kinda land and expand some new clients as well. Second is to improve gross margin through business mix, through our operational efficiencies, which we've done a great job at, and there's still even more levers we can pull. And obviously, that gross margin will improve as we see revenue growth come back into our mix. As well as drive our digital acceleration. You saw the over 4% growth last year. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:14:24We see a lot more growth opportunity in our business there and that digital portfolio is at a higher margin as well, so that obviously improves our mix. The third is to generate strong cash flow and continue to deliver capital returns to shareholders and continue on our debt repayment. Finally, as I mentioned earlier, leverage the current market environment to be opportunistic on M&A, and we've got a good pipeline that we're working through right now. There's some interesting opportunities that we're certainly considering. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:15:05Our key theme really focuses on profitability, on cash flow generation and continue to work on leadership opportunities in the sector, and obviously business development and business growth and opportunistic M&A to summarize. A lot of priorities. We're well-positioned in the current environment. As James said, and I've said a couple times, we've got strong operating performance, certainly in uncertain and unpredictable environments. We've seen a little bit more predictability this year. We've got solid cash flow generation. We've got very good new business development activity levels and pleased with the horizon one and horizon two activities that are in the funnel right now. We certainly have a solid track record of execution. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:15:54We know how to integrate, restructure, manage overheads, and we do know how to manage revenue acceleration in positive environments, of course, and we're certainly gonna be seeing that this year. M&A, we already talked about. We've got a very good and experienced leadership team. It's been around for a while. I'm five years as of a couple of days ago. Certainly experienced team around me as well with many more years. We're well-capitalized for any excess available capital with excess available capital rather to pursue opportunities in the market. That is, that's where we're going in 2026 and you know, the year 2025 is behind us. We'll now turn it over to Q&A. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:16:47Thanks, Richard. We'll now take questions from the audience. If you have a question and are accessing the call through Teams, you can use the raise your hand feature and we will queue up questions. Alternatively, you can also use the chat feature and we'll respond to chat questions as well. We will unmute your mic when we queue you into the call. We have a first call from Noel Atkinson. Hello. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:17:19Hi. It's Noel Atkinson from Clarus. Good morning, Richard and James. Thanks for taking our questions. That's a good overview. Just in terms of your 2026 outlook, that sounds a little more rosy than perhaps what you were talking about six months ago for 2025. You know, we're most of the way through Q1. How is sort of business activity or sentiment been so far Q1? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:17:44Yeah, we can't talk specifically to Q1, Noel, just 'cause we're pretty well advanced there. Overall, you know, we are seeing a little bit of a stabilization. We are still seeing some headwinds in the economy. A lot of the key macro things that Richard talked about, we're optimistic that as we kinda get through the year, we'll start to see a little bit of a bounce back. Canada Post, which Richard alluded to, their unions are voting over the next short little while. The kind of proposals have been presented to the union, so we're optimistic that that will be supported. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:18:29You know, certainly expect some kind of bounce back there, as well as in some other sectors that were a little bit quieter last year. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:18:38We've secured some recent RFP wins, Noel, that will come into our business later in the year. We've been quite successful recently on securing some recent wins in the marketplace. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:18:57Okay. Great segue to my next question. Transcontinental in their most recent quarter, they were talking about, price concessions that they've had to eat in their sort of remaining print and publishing business. Are you guys also having to compete more aggressively on price, or are you seeing existing clients being more price-sensitive as we go into 2026? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:19:21There was definitely a lot of price sensitivity in the market even in 2025, Noel, and especially on the commercial print side where there's, you know, capacity and capability in the marketplace. We had to compete more aggressively on commercial print. When I say commercial print, think of, you know, some of the low SKU, long run business. But certainly there is some pressure on price, but more, you know, it's more acute, I'd say, on that commercial print area. Where we bring value, obviously where there's digital solutions that manage workflow for a client or we're well-embedded in tech-enabled solutions, that isn't under the same margin pressure, obviously. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:20:10Okay. Great. One more quick one. Just, okay, so you mentioned AI, and you're using it for productivity internally, and that's great. You know, we've seen media reports of sort of dislocations in search engine marketing and, like, paid search and organic from, you know, it having AI agents in within the search engine results, such as Google Gemini. Are you seeing any clients that are kind of responding to this by moving more budget back into print or other solutions that you guys offer? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:20:48You wanna talk to that, James? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:20:50Yeah. Look, we're not seeing that yet. Certainly, you know, certainly on personalized, let's say personalized, loyalty or personalized direct mail. Certainly, you know, there was a move to digital during the postal strike, but we know that digital doesn't convert at the same level as physical. You know, physical's tough to ignore. You know, we're now seeing clients kind of move some of their budget back into the physical. That isn't necessarily related to AI. So, on the I think what you're referring to really is kind of the on the search side, right? On the- Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:21:35Yes. Yeah. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:21:36On marketing automation side. You know, look, we've learned a lot about marketing automation and search automation. If you go to our website right now, datacm.com, you can see we have a whole new site we put to market. That site was generated using AI. All the imagery is AI-generated imagery, and all the copy was developed using AI, and we optimized that for search, Gemini search, for AI search essentially. We've actually delivered, we're delivering a lot more natural leads as a result of the optimization we did on our site. You know, we've certainly learned a lot about you know, how to optimize in AI. I know I'm. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:22:23You know, I know I'm not answering your question clearly 'cause we're not experiencing what you're saying is, you know, if you're not getting noticed in search, you start redirecting some of your budget back into print. Hard for us to account for that, Noel. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:22:37No, that's fine. I just wanted to see if there's any early indications on that. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:22:42No. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:22:42Okay. That's it for me. Thank you so much. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:22:46Great. Thanks, Noel. We have a question from Daniel Rosenberg, please. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:22:58Go ahead, Daniel. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:23:00Hi. Good morning. Can you hear me all right? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:23:03Yeah. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:23:03Go ahead. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:23:04Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one, I was just curious around your various revenue lines, kind of what do you view as the opportunity set around these lines from a growth perspective? Like, where are you allocating your resources from a segmented basis when you think about you know the potential returns you could garner for the overall business? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:23:36Yeah. I guess if you look at our segments as we report them in our financial notes, Daniel, you know, you'll see that the, you know, kind of declines we saw in overall in our business were kind of led by our product sales. That's for the most part, you know, printed material. That's certainly a big area where we see opportunities to kind of stabilize and see some return to growth. You know, warehousing and freight were kind of directly kind of tied to lower volumes there, and some of the larger client declines that we saw last year are also clients that use freight and warehousing services. As we expect to see product sales rebound, you know, and improve, we shall also see some rebounds there. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:24:28Sorry, as we expect to see product sales improve, we should also see a little bit of an uptick in warehousing and freight as well. There's a lot of kind of kitting and fulfillment type projects that are you know kind of using you know our warehousing space, and we're fulfilling products on a regular basis to most of our large clients. You know another area technology hardware that's an area that can be a little bit lumpy. We have some interesting projects that are in the pipeline right now, so not always easy to predict that because they can be kind of lumpy in terms of when programs run. But we see opportunities there in kind of our tech hardware. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:25:18Traditional hardware has been, you know, printers, scanners, different applications used primarily in the healthcare sector and distribution centers for our clients. You know, we see that market as having good opportunity. The new market that we've kind of included and had some success in that rolls into tech hardware would also be digital screens and, you know, we we've got a couple interesting programs that we're working on in that area as well. Then I guess the other kind of big bucket tech services. Richard talked about that earlier, that was up, I guess about 4% year-over-year. While, you know, the product sales were down, so nice to see some kind of continued strength in that sector. Does that help? Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:26:12Yeah. That's great. Thanks for that color. So I guess in that answer and to understand. Like, I'm just looking at your inventory levels. They came down quite a bit when we think about kind of a multi-year view, but that's just tied to the macro product sales. Maybe could you talk through some of the working capital changes that may not repeat next year versus the 25? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:26:41Yeah, sure. Sure. We had a very strong focus on inventory management throughout the year. Certainly part of the decline was due to kinda lower sales. Another part of it was due to kind of better management, and our procurement team's done a great job, kinda, you know. In a couple cases, we've entered into some consignment type opportunity or consignment inventory relationships with some vendors, where we just have faster, better access to inventory kind of on hand, and it's not on our books. We've also done a you know pretty focused effort across all our plants in reducing inventory that's held there. You know, we'll probably see some continued you know tweaks to inventory over this year. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:27:35Definitely some kind of intentional improvements there, not just the unintentional through the lower sales. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:27:45Okay. You know, looking forward, a consequence of some of these moves you've made historically is improving cash generation profile. You know, maybe Richard, could you speak to kind of what excites you about, when you think about the coming 12 months, having that added capital and where you could put it to use? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:28:11Yeah. You know, I mentioned M&A. There's some interesting opportunities in the marketplace that we're looking at or considering in the in-store marketing space and in the labeling space and packaging space as well, which all kind of play to our strengths. So that's where, you know, capital could go to good use. Obviously, we wanna prove to the market, to ourselves that we can return this business organically to growth, but at the same time, obviously consider some strategic M&A opportunities to continue to accelerate our position in the marketplace. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:28:51Okay. Great. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll pass the line. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:28:54All right. Thank you. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:28:55Thanks, Daniel. We have a call from Chris Thompson. Can you let him in, please? Hi, Chris. I think you should be good now. Chris, you wanna try it? Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:29:21Put down. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:29:23There we go. Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:29:24Can you hear me now? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:29:25Yes. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:29:25Good morning, Chris. Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:29:26Oh, great. Thanks. Most of my questions have been answered. Sorry, it's Chris Thompson from eResearch. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to talk a little bit about your margin compression in relation to the content your new AI platform to see how, you know, we should expect that sort of margin. It's come down a bit and how it will react to your new software, which should be a higher margin business. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:29:55Yeah. The margin, the gross margin compression that we experienced in 2025 was directly related to that revenue headwind. As we see that revenue headwind turn into a tailwind, we see revenue come back into growth, we'll see that margin naturally increase. We've also done a very good job from a procurement perspective to look at and discover lower cost raw materials globally. Tariffs kinda push us into that opportunity. We'll see that. Those raw materials flow into our business as well. You know, depending on the vertical or the product type, you know, raw materials can be anywhere from 20%–80% of cost of goods, obviously. You know, improving and securing better and cheaper raw materials obviously have a direct impact. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:30:44You're absolutely right, you know, as we continue to expand our mix on digital is a higher, much higher margin business than conventional print. You know, when I say digital, pure play digital, so some of our SaaS solutions. As well as when we enable print workflow with technology, that print workflow is a higher margin business because it's supported with technology. That's our, absolutely our strategy, tech-enabled solutions and, you know, pure play kind of SaaS solutions for clients as well. As well as, you know, driving that core margin, with, you know, better raw material purchasing, operational efficiencies, and we've got, you know, kind of clear pricing methodology in the marketplace as well. Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:31:36Okay, that's great. Yeah, the rest of my questions were answered, so thanks. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:31:39Okay. Right, great. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:31:42Thanks, Chris. We have a question in the chat here from Sahil Jain. "With the recent financial performance, is management considering any additional shareholder returns such as a potential special dividend? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:31:57You go ahead. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:31:58Yeah, sure. Sahil, at the present time, no. You know, the board is always kind of open and assessing opportunities. But our you know kind of current dividend policy is, you saw the CAD 0.025 per share dividend that we declared last night. The plan would be to continue that on. Certainly as we you know get through this year and next year, our board will consider different capital alternatives. Certainly in the mix there is also M&A as possible opportunities for capital deployment. I believe that's one second, yep, the end of any questions. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:32:54Thanks everyone for dialing in today and joining our call, and for your continued interest in DCM. Richard and I are certainly available after the call for any follow-up questions that you might have. That concludes our call this morning, and I hope everyone enjoys the rest of your day. You may now disconnect your lines. 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PresentationSkip to Participants James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the DATA Communications Management Corp Fiscal 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. I'm James Lorimer, CFO of DCM, and I'm pleased to be hosting today's call. Joining me on the call today is Richard Kellam, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we will be moderating a Q&A session. As a reminder, this conference call is being broadcast live and recorded. We'd also like to remind everyone that Richard and I could be available after the call for any follow-up questions that you might have. Before we begin, I will remind everyone that we will be referring to forward-looking information on today's call. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:00:45This information is subject to certain risks and uncertainties as outlined in the forward-looking information disclosure in our press release, and more fully within our public disclosure filings on SEDAR+. This presentation will be added to our website for your reference, along with a post-view recording and transcript. The detailed information is also available on our website and SEDAR+. Please follow us on LinkedIn to keep up to date with other business developments. I'll now turn the call over to Richard. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:01:15Good morning and good afternoon, good evening to anybody joining from other time zones. Our agenda this morning is very clear. We're just gonna hit the highlights of 25, talk about some capital allocation, look at our priorities and turn it over to Q&A. Thank you, James. First, I've got a summary of our highlights and, say, anybody looking at this slide, our key theme on the year was controlling the controllables, and there was a lot of controllables we need to control. Looking at revenue results, everybody saw that our release, read our release came out last night. The revenue decline was pretty much in line with consensus at -0.62% on the year. That really was reflecting lower spend on several large enterprise accounts. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:02:05As shareholders know, about 93%–94% of our revenue comes from large enterprise. A lot of those large enterprise accounts obviously had some headwinds, and we did not offset that with new customers, although we did bring in several new customers, just given time to revenue, which, as you know, is long in our business. With that said, we did a very good job controlling the controllables and our adjusted EBITDA came in at CAD 60.4 million and 13.4% margin. That was really due to the spending discipline mitigating the declines in some of the gross profit, and obviously the revenue, you know, headwinds we experienced. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:02:55We also generated strong free cash flow, well up over a year ago, and you'll see that in a chart coming up shortly, of CAD 13.4 million. We've done a, I'd say, a very good job returning capital to shareholders. Again, you'll see a chart coming up. Our capital return to shareholders is about CAD 17.6 million in the year. On the uncertainty side, again, we worked hard to manage through some market uncertainty, and, you know, you saw that through the quarters. The tariff uncertainty and that impacting budgets in large enterprise accounts. We obviously had the uncertainty and the unexpected headwind from the Canada Post labor disruption. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:03:42Canada Post is a large client of DCM's, as well as the knock-on effect to all the other clients we service from a mailing perspective. That certainly impacted our year. Thankfully, that's behind us, as we'll talk about in the 2026 outlook. We did a very good job, as I said earlier, of managing and mitigating some of the revenue headwinds with operational efficiencies and driving SG&A productivity. You'll see in a chart coming up that we actually reduced SG&A by CAD 7.8 million in the year. On the digital and AI activities that we're delivering to the business, we've had some very good success in the year. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:04:27We actually grew our tech services revenues by 4.2%, so, you know, obviously well above what we experienced on our core print business. We're now about CAD 21 million in tech services revenues, and that's almost 5% of total revenue. Shareholders may remember that we launched Content Cloud, our AI-powered digital asset management solutions. We're proud of getting that to market, the success we're delivering. We've got good momentum with several verticals, but one in particular are the government and municipal services. We were just up against a pretty large RFP and pretty large competitive shootout, and we secured a good piece of business there on government. We're finding our lane and securing some good wins there. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:05:19From an operational perspective, and from a commercial perspective, we're using a lot of AI in our workflows today to drive productivity improvements. I'd say we're all in on AI from an operational perspective and from a commercial perspective as well. Finally, we've been building a good solid M&A pipeline now that all of our restructuring integration, IT integration is behind us. We can now look to opportunities for M&A, and we've been building that pipeline. The market is good. Certainly, the macro uncertainty is creating some opportunities on the south side, and we're well-capitalized to consider any M&A as we work through 2026. Overall, we managed well through the market uncertainty we experienced. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:06:10The team did an excellent job to kind of manage those headwinds and maintain profitability while also returning significant cash to shareholders. That's kinda the overall highlights, and we'll get into a few details as we flip through the file here. James. Okay. From a revenue perspective, as I said, minus 6.2% for all the reasons I said. If you do look at this chart, and you look over five years, you do see, you know, despite the revenue headwinds we experienced in 2025, we're still managing a business that is twice the size, almost twice the size of what it was in 2023, and managing it quite successfully. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:06:56Obviously, you know, we'll see those revenue headwinds turn to tailwinds, and then we'll have a nice, you know, kinda virtuous circle over time as well, but business is still solid. There's been no material losses in clients, and again, you can see from this chart that we're still managing a very sizable business, north of CAD 450 million in revenue. Gross profit, obviously, with factory overhead recoveries and utilization was impacted. You can see that, just around CAD 117 million in gross profit, gross margin of around 26%. We'll see that come back as revenue growth returns. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:07:44We've built a perfect footprint, operational footprint to now grow from, and we'll see that naturally kinda return to historical levels as we have revenue come back into our business, or revenue growth come back into our business. Okay. Just adjusted EBITDA, as I said earlier, you know, we're happy with the delivery of CAD 60 million. It's pretty much in line with consensus. Still slightly down versus a year ago. A year ago was our high water mark, of course. Down for all the reasons I said due to the headwinds. Again, if you look at over the course of the last 5 years, we're up 70% over that horizon. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:08:26as I said earlier, with the operational efficiencies, the consolidation of our network that we've completed and the return to revenue, you'll see that turn into a nice kind of virtuous circle, as we call it, where margins will improve. Not a lot of restructuring in our plans, so you'll see a natural improvement in EBITDA as that revenue comes back into our mix. James, free cash flow. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:08:55We had a solid year in terms of free cash flow. We delivered CAD 13.4 million, up about 145% over last year. A lot of the CapEx that we invested in, particularly in 2024 to modernize and upgrade some facilities following the MCC acquisition and integration is largely behind us. We see CapEx kind of being in similar levels to what we saw in 2025 going forward. Solid balance sheet. We continue to pay down debt. Our leverage just below 2 times net debt to EBITDA at the end of the year, and that's down 2.2% on a net debt basis compared to last year, and significantly, almost 50% since the MCC acquisition. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:09:48This is in addition, I guess, complementing the returns to shareholders that we completed last year. Credit facility, we have solid lines and certainly a good balance sheet to pursue M&A activity and continue our capital return plans. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:10:13Supporting a comment that I made earlier about our productivity improvements and our headcount, you know, great kinda rigorous headcount management, you can see in this chart, you know, productivity has improved considerably. Headcount was down 4% this year, and our headcount is down 22% over the last 3 years. You can see that our SG&A, as I mentioned earlier, down 9% or CAD 7.8 million. A good job controlling the controllables and continue to manage, you know, productivity, effectiveness, and efficiency of our teams. Really, you know, pleased with the progress we made there as an organization. You can see that our percentage on SG&A is down below 18% now, which is sort of what we put in plan a couple of years ago. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:11:05From a capital allocation perspective, we deployed a little over CAD 21.8 million of capital last year. That included a special dividend that we announced in the Q1 of last year, as well as regular recurring CAD 0.025 per share dividend. You can see that the total capital deployed of CAD 21.8 million is up over last year, but a big portion of that is dividends and we commenced a Normal Course Issuer Bid last year in June. In aggregate, we did return approximately CAD 17.6 million of capital through the special dividend and the quarterly dividend paid out last year, as well as about CAD 1 million worth of share repurchases. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:12:01Current kind of trading levels, we're trading about a 6.8% dividend yield. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:12:08Okay, moving on to 2026, which we're well into now, obviously. Some of the outlook, early signs, there's certainly some early signs of market stabilization. Demand trends are beginning to stabilize. Obviously, the Canada Post disruption is behind us, and we're starting to see clients now returning to some of the discretionary mailings that they were doing. You know, the personalized direct mail as an example, we're starting to see that return into the business mix this year. We've got a lot of new business activity. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:12:50Some of the work that we did last year that I said is longer term and longer time to revenue will start flowing through into our business this year, as well as some good, you know, what we call horizon one, so kind of in-year revenue opportunities that the team is working to deliver as well. We like to say that execution is a strategy, so we will stay relentlessly focused on execution. Still a little uncertainty around tariffs, but we know how to mitigate and manage through that. As James mentioned earlier, we do have a very strong balance sheet, and cost discipline to provide us that resiliency and flexibility as we progress through the year. Our priorities for 2026, these are four key priorities for us throughout the business. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:13:42One is to maintain high revenue retention, high revenue retention rate. You know, I said there's no regrettable losses in our business and execute on new customer development initiatives, as well as opportunities to kinda land and expand some new clients as well. Second is to improve gross margin through business mix, through our operational efficiencies, which we've done a great job at, and there's still even more levers we can pull. And obviously, that gross margin will improve as we see revenue growth come back into our mix. As well as drive our digital acceleration. You saw the over 4% growth last year. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:14:24We see a lot more growth opportunity in our business there and that digital portfolio is at a higher margin as well, so that obviously improves our mix. The third is to generate strong cash flow and continue to deliver capital returns to shareholders and continue on our debt repayment. Finally, as I mentioned earlier, leverage the current market environment to be opportunistic on M&A, and we've got a good pipeline that we're working through right now. There's some interesting opportunities that we're certainly considering. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:15:05Our key theme really focuses on profitability, on cash flow generation and continue to work on leadership opportunities in the sector, and obviously business development and business growth and opportunistic M&A to summarize. A lot of priorities. We're well-positioned in the current environment. As James said, and I've said a couple times, we've got strong operating performance, certainly in uncertain and unpredictable environments. We've seen a little bit more predictability this year. We've got solid cash flow generation. We've got very good new business development activity levels and pleased with the horizon one and horizon two activities that are in the funnel right now. We certainly have a solid track record of execution. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:15:54We know how to integrate, restructure, manage overheads, and we do know how to manage revenue acceleration in positive environments, of course, and we're certainly gonna be seeing that this year. M&A, we already talked about. We've got a very good and experienced leadership team. It's been around for a while. I'm five years as of a couple of days ago. Certainly experienced team around me as well with many more years. We're well-capitalized for any excess available capital with excess available capital rather to pursue opportunities in the market. That is, that's where we're going in 2026 and you know, the year 2025 is behind us. We'll now turn it over to Q&A. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:16:47Thanks, Richard. We'll now take questions from the audience. If you have a question and are accessing the call through Teams, you can use the raise your hand feature and we will queue up questions. Alternatively, you can also use the chat feature and we'll respond to chat questions as well. We will unmute your mic when we queue you into the call. We have a first call from Noel Atkinson. Hello. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:17:19Hi. It's Noel Atkinson from Clarus. Good morning, Richard and James. Thanks for taking our questions. That's a good overview. Just in terms of your 2026 outlook, that sounds a little more rosy than perhaps what you were talking about six months ago for 2025. You know, we're most of the way through Q1. How is sort of business activity or sentiment been so far Q1? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:17:44Yeah, we can't talk specifically to Q1, Noel, just 'cause we're pretty well advanced there. Overall, you know, we are seeing a little bit of a stabilization. We are still seeing some headwinds in the economy. A lot of the key macro things that Richard talked about, we're optimistic that as we kinda get through the year, we'll start to see a little bit of a bounce back. Canada Post, which Richard alluded to, their unions are voting over the next short little while. The kind of proposals have been presented to the union, so we're optimistic that that will be supported. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:18:29You know, certainly expect some kind of bounce back there, as well as in some other sectors that were a little bit quieter last year. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:18:38We've secured some recent RFP wins, Noel, that will come into our business later in the year. We've been quite successful recently on securing some recent wins in the marketplace. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:18:57Okay. Great segue to my next question. Transcontinental in their most recent quarter, they were talking about, price concessions that they've had to eat in their sort of remaining print and publishing business. Are you guys also having to compete more aggressively on price, or are you seeing existing clients being more price-sensitive as we go into 2026? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:19:21There was definitely a lot of price sensitivity in the market even in 2025, Noel, and especially on the commercial print side where there's, you know, capacity and capability in the marketplace. We had to compete more aggressively on commercial print. When I say commercial print, think of, you know, some of the low SKU, long run business. But certainly there is some pressure on price, but more, you know, it's more acute, I'd say, on that commercial print area. Where we bring value, obviously where there's digital solutions that manage workflow for a client or we're well-embedded in tech-enabled solutions, that isn't under the same margin pressure, obviously. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:20:10Okay. Great. One more quick one. Just, okay, so you mentioned AI, and you're using it for productivity internally, and that's great. You know, we've seen media reports of sort of dislocations in search engine marketing and, like, paid search and organic from, you know, it having AI agents in within the search engine results, such as Google Gemini. Are you seeing any clients that are kind of responding to this by moving more budget back into print or other solutions that you guys offer? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:20:48You wanna talk to that, James? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:20:50Yeah. Look, we're not seeing that yet. Certainly, you know, certainly on personalized, let's say personalized, loyalty or personalized direct mail. Certainly, you know, there was a move to digital during the postal strike, but we know that digital doesn't convert at the same level as physical. You know, physical's tough to ignore. You know, we're now seeing clients kind of move some of their budget back into the physical. That isn't necessarily related to AI. So, on the I think what you're referring to really is kind of the on the search side, right? On the- Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:21:35Yes. Yeah. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:21:36On marketing automation side. You know, look, we've learned a lot about marketing automation and search automation. If you go to our website right now, datacm.com, you can see we have a whole new site we put to market. That site was generated using AI. All the imagery is AI-generated imagery, and all the copy was developed using AI, and we optimized that for search, Gemini search, for AI search essentially. We've actually delivered, we're delivering a lot more natural leads as a result of the optimization we did on our site. You know, we've certainly learned a lot about you know, how to optimize in AI. I know I'm. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:22:23You know, I know I'm not answering your question clearly 'cause we're not experiencing what you're saying is, you know, if you're not getting noticed in search, you start redirecting some of your budget back into print. Hard for us to account for that, Noel. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:22:37No, that's fine. I just wanted to see if there's any early indications on that. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:22:42No. Noel AtkinsonAnalyst at Clarus Securities00:22:42Okay. That's it for me. Thank you so much. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:22:46Great. Thanks, Noel. We have a question from Daniel Rosenberg, please. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:22:58Go ahead, Daniel. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:23:00Hi. Good morning. Can you hear me all right? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:23:03Yeah. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:23:03Go ahead. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:23:04Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one, I was just curious around your various revenue lines, kind of what do you view as the opportunity set around these lines from a growth perspective? Like, where are you allocating your resources from a segmented basis when you think about you know the potential returns you could garner for the overall business? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:23:36Yeah. I guess if you look at our segments as we report them in our financial notes, Daniel, you know, you'll see that the, you know, kind of declines we saw in overall in our business were kind of led by our product sales. That's for the most part, you know, printed material. That's certainly a big area where we see opportunities to kind of stabilize and see some return to growth. You know, warehousing and freight were kind of directly kind of tied to lower volumes there, and some of the larger client declines that we saw last year are also clients that use freight and warehousing services. As we expect to see product sales rebound, you know, and improve, we shall also see some rebounds there. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:24:28Sorry, as we expect to see product sales improve, we should also see a little bit of an uptick in warehousing and freight as well. There's a lot of kind of kitting and fulfillment type projects that are you know kind of using you know our warehousing space, and we're fulfilling products on a regular basis to most of our large clients. You know another area technology hardware that's an area that can be a little bit lumpy. We have some interesting projects that are in the pipeline right now, so not always easy to predict that because they can be kind of lumpy in terms of when programs run. But we see opportunities there in kind of our tech hardware. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:25:18Traditional hardware has been, you know, printers, scanners, different applications used primarily in the healthcare sector and distribution centers for our clients. You know, we see that market as having good opportunity. The new market that we've kind of included and had some success in that rolls into tech hardware would also be digital screens and, you know, we we've got a couple interesting programs that we're working on in that area as well. Then I guess the other kind of big bucket tech services. Richard talked about that earlier, that was up, I guess about 4% year-over-year. While, you know, the product sales were down, so nice to see some kind of continued strength in that sector. Does that help? Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:26:12Yeah. That's great. Thanks for that color. So I guess in that answer and to understand. Like, I'm just looking at your inventory levels. They came down quite a bit when we think about kind of a multi-year view, but that's just tied to the macro product sales. Maybe could you talk through some of the working capital changes that may not repeat next year versus the 25? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:26:41Yeah, sure. Sure. We had a very strong focus on inventory management throughout the year. Certainly part of the decline was due to kinda lower sales. Another part of it was due to kind of better management, and our procurement team's done a great job, kinda, you know. In a couple cases, we've entered into some consignment type opportunity or consignment inventory relationships with some vendors, where we just have faster, better access to inventory kind of on hand, and it's not on our books. We've also done a you know pretty focused effort across all our plants in reducing inventory that's held there. You know, we'll probably see some continued you know tweaks to inventory over this year. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:27:35Definitely some kind of intentional improvements there, not just the unintentional through the lower sales. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:27:45Okay. You know, looking forward, a consequence of some of these moves you've made historically is improving cash generation profile. You know, maybe Richard, could you speak to kind of what excites you about, when you think about the coming 12 months, having that added capital and where you could put it to use? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:28:11Yeah. You know, I mentioned M&A. There's some interesting opportunities in the marketplace that we're looking at or considering in the in-store marketing space and in the labeling space and packaging space as well, which all kind of play to our strengths. So that's where, you know, capital could go to good use. Obviously, we wanna prove to the market, to ourselves that we can return this business organically to growth, but at the same time, obviously consider some strategic M&A opportunities to continue to accelerate our position in the marketplace. Daniel RosenbergAnalyst at Paradigm Capital00:28:51Okay. Great. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll pass the line. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:28:54All right. Thank you. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:28:55Thanks, Daniel. We have a call from Chris Thompson. Can you let him in, please? Hi, Chris. I think you should be good now. Chris, you wanna try it? Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:29:21Put down. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:29:23There we go. Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:29:24Can you hear me now? James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:29:25Yes. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:29:25Good morning, Chris. Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:29:26Oh, great. Thanks. Most of my questions have been answered. Sorry, it's Chris Thompson from eResearch. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to talk a little bit about your margin compression in relation to the content your new AI platform to see how, you know, we should expect that sort of margin. It's come down a bit and how it will react to your new software, which should be a higher margin business. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:29:55Yeah. The margin, the gross margin compression that we experienced in 2025 was directly related to that revenue headwind. As we see that revenue headwind turn into a tailwind, we see revenue come back into growth, we'll see that margin naturally increase. We've also done a very good job from a procurement perspective to look at and discover lower cost raw materials globally. Tariffs kinda push us into that opportunity. We'll see that. Those raw materials flow into our business as well. You know, depending on the vertical or the product type, you know, raw materials can be anywhere from 20%–80% of cost of goods, obviously. You know, improving and securing better and cheaper raw materials obviously have a direct impact. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:30:44You're absolutely right, you know, as we continue to expand our mix on digital is a higher, much higher margin business than conventional print. You know, when I say digital, pure play digital, so some of our SaaS solutions. As well as when we enable print workflow with technology, that print workflow is a higher margin business because it's supported with technology. That's our, absolutely our strategy, tech-enabled solutions and, you know, pure play kind of SaaS solutions for clients as well. As well as, you know, driving that core margin, with, you know, better raw material purchasing, operational efficiencies, and we've got, you know, kind of clear pricing methodology in the marketplace as well. Chris ThompsonPresident and Director of Research at eResearch Corporation00:31:36Okay, that's great. Yeah, the rest of my questions were answered, so thanks. Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:31:39Okay. Right, great. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:31:42Thanks, Chris. We have a question in the chat here from Sahil Jain. "With the recent financial performance, is management considering any additional shareholder returns such as a potential special dividend? Richard KellamPresident and CEO at DATA Communications Management00:31:57You go ahead. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:31:58Yeah, sure. Sahil, at the present time, no. You know, the board is always kind of open and assessing opportunities. But our you know kind of current dividend policy is, you saw the CAD 0.025 per share dividend that we declared last night. The plan would be to continue that on. Certainly as we you know get through this year and next year, our board will consider different capital alternatives. Certainly in the mix there is also M&A as possible opportunities for capital deployment. I believe that's one second, yep, the end of any questions. James LorimerCFO at DATA Communications Management00:32:54Thanks everyone for dialing in today and joining our call, and for your continued interest in DCM. Richard and I are certainly available after the call for any follow-up questions that you might have. That concludes our call this morning, and I hope everyone enjoys the rest of your day. You may now disconnect your lines. 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