TSE:PIF Polaris Renewable Energy Q1 2026 Earnings Report C$14.78 +1.63 (+12.40%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Polaris Renewable Energy EPS ResultsActual EPS-C$0.04Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/APolaris Renewable Energy Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$27.48 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/APolaris Renewable Energy Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2026Date5/7/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, May 7, 2026Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Polaris Renewable Energy Q1 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 7, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Negative Sentiment: Consolidated production decreased ~5% YoY, driven by planned San Jacinto maintenance (~12,500 MWh impact as wells recovered more slowly) and elevated curtailment in the Dominican Republic (averaged 42% in Q1 vs 7% a year earlier), with timing for full normalization uncertain. Negative Sentiment: Quarterly revenue fell to $19.8M (down 3%) and Adjusted EBITDA declined to $13.5M; management lowered full‑year production guidance to about 760–770 GWh, citing curtailment as the primary driver. Positive Sentiment: Balance sheet and cash flow remain solid — operating cash flow was $8.5M, total cash rose to $97.5M, and the company declared a quarterly dividend of $0.15 per share payable May 22. Positive Sentiment: Puerto Rico growth catalysts advancing — PREPA approved the ASAP project and Polaris expects final FOMB approval this quarter, and it has submitted a large solar+BESS RFP proposal with contracting targeted in Q3. Positive Sentiment: Significant Mexico pipeline (roughly ~1 GW of solar plus some BESS across sequential convocatorias) is progressing toward early Q3/Q4 contracting, with financing plans that include cash, debt and potential local equity partners. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallPolaris Renewable Energy Q1 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Polaris Renewable Energy Incorporated's first quarter 2026 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode, and a question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Alba Seisdedos, Chief Financial Officer with Polaris Renewable Energy. Ma'am, the floor is yours. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:00:39Thanks, Ali. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our 2026 first quarter earnings call for Polaris Renewable Energy Inc. Before we begin, we would like to remind you that in addition to our press releases issued earlier today, you can find our financial statements and MD&A on both SEDAR+ and our corporate website at polarisrei.com. Unless noted otherwise, all amounts referred to are denominated in US dollars. We would also like to remind you that comments made during this call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable Canadian securities legislation regarding the future performance of Polaris Renewable Energy Inc. and its subsidiaries. These statements are current expectations and as such, are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:01:28These risks and uncertainties include the factors discussed in the company's annual information form for the year ended December 31st, 2025. On today's call, I will walk through our operating and financial results for the first quarter of 2026. Marc will then provide additional commentary on our Q1 performance and growth initiatives. Following our remarks, we will look forward to taking your questions. Starting with production. Overall, the first quarter 2026 demonstrate the benefits of our diversified portfolio despite temporary external factors affecting production during the quarter. While consolidated production decreased 5% year-over-year, due primarily to a scheduled major maintenance in Nicaragua and elevated curtailment in the Dominican Republic, the broader portfolio continued to perform well with a strong hydrology in Peru, a stable production in Ecuador and Panama, and a full quarter contribution from Puerto Rico, helping offset a portion of this impact. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:02:26Importantly, these temporary factors did not materially affect the company's financial flexibility, liquidity position, or our availability to continue advancing strategic growth initiatives. In Nicaragua, unit three underwent planned the annual maintenance during February, which resulted in 17 days of downtime. Plant availability outside the maintenance period remains strong. In the Dominican Republic, curtailment averaged 42% during the quarter, compared to an average 7% curtailment in the same period last year, materially impacting realized generation. Curtailment has moderated quarter-over-quarter, in Q2, the timing of normalization remains uncertain. In Peru, hydroelectric production increased year-over-year due to improved hydrological conditions and resource availability. During March, Peru also experienced temporary energy shortages, which resulted in elevated spot market pricing and positive benefit to Canchayllo following fulfillment of its annual PPA obligations. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:03:26In addition, Puerto Rico contributed a full quarter of operating results during Q1 2026, compared to only one month of contribution following the acquisition in the comparative period last year, adding 12,698 MWh to the consolidated production during the quarter. In Ecuador and Panama, production remained generally consistent with the comparative period last year, reflecting stable hydrological and solar resource availability, as well as continued strong plant performance. Moving on to financials. From a financial perspective, revenue for the quarter was $19.8 million, down 3% from $20.3 million in Q1 2025. Adjusted EBITDA was $13.5 million compared to $15 million in the comparative period, reflecting the lower production levels and revenue discussed earlier and the cost impacting from integrating our Puerto Rican operations. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:04:17Direct costs across the rest of the operations remain in line with 2025 levels. Cash flow from operating activities was $8.5 million, and we ended the quarter with $97.5 million of total cash, including restricted cash, up from $93.2 million at year-end 2025. Our balance sheet remains strong, and we continue to maintain financial flexibility and focus on execution and advancing the pipeline for long-term value creation. I would also like to highlight that we continue to prioritize shareholder returns. We have already announced that we will be paying a quarterly dividend on May 22nd of $0.15 per share to shareholders of record on May 13th. With that, I will turn the call over to Marc. Thank you. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:04:59Thanks, Alba. Just a few minor comments on operations. As Alba mentioned, we completed the major maintenance, planned maintenance at San Jacinto, on a pure sort of days of downtime that would've cost about 8,000 MWh. Given that we need to close a whole bunch of wells, some of those take, when you reopen them, but they take a little bit longer to actually reach their pre-maintenance capacity levels. When we look at the quarter, I would say, given that process, not for all the wells, but for a couple of the wells, it ends up being that instead of sort of -8,000 MWh per quarter, it's closer to 12,000-13,000. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:05:55I think the actual, let's call it maintenance cost in the quarter was about, let's say, 12,500 MWh approximately. The wells have recovered to their pre-maintenance capacity levels. They're at sort of levels that are as per our expectations going into the year. The Dominican curtailment was somewhat higher than anticipated. We think it was about 7,000 MWh estimate. This will be stronger in their winter months. It has come down in April, continues to come down here in May. We expect that to continue. We are targeting an annual number of sort of 40,000 MWh-45,000 MWh for the year. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:06:51Given that, continuing to improve next year and the following, given the plans to put large-scale SADA in place in the next 18 to 24 months in the country. That was a negative, although it was somewhat offset by the hydros in both Peru and Ecuador, which performed really well in the quarter. We're happy about that. Based on those comments, I would say, though, for full year consolidated production guidance, down slightly to about 760 GWh-770 GWh. In terms of the growth, on the last call I mentioned we had signed an LOI on this very small solar project. It continues to move. Unfortunately, the vendor just wasn't, call it, legally ready to move to the documentation phase. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:07:43We've finished our technicals diligence. We're ready to go, but the ball is in their court, so we are confident moving forward, but will not likely to close until Q3. The big one that we're all waiting for is the ASAP approval. PREPA board in Puerto Rico did approve the project on February 19th, which we've been waiting for for a long time. We are still awaiting approval from the FOMB, which is the last approval needed. Once they approve it does go back to PREPA for signature, but that's not an approval at that point. This really is the last approval. I know this is taking longer than what everybody wants. We do not think that there is a problem with it. There is no issue. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:08:31There are just some other things that are happening that are taking FOMB's attention right now. We are optimistic we will receive it prior to the end of this quarter. In Puerto Rico, we are also participating in an RFP that is where our final proposal is actually due this Monday. That is an even larger project. It's solar plus BESS. The process is moving relatively quickly, and we think it will move quicker than the ASAP process given that it's the infrastructure, the P3 group that is driving this. Once we submit the final proposal on Monday, we will have notification as to whether we're, I think, call it, being chosen in late June, so end of Q2, with contracting targeted for Q3. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:09:32That would be quite soon. And those would be the two main things that we're working on in Puerto Rico. We do have other conversations with developers going, but I would say our priority really is obviously ASAP, but also this RFP if we're able to have success in that. In terms of the other main market we're focusing on right now is Mexico. We have approximately 300 MW-400 MW of solar projects in a current, technically not a bid process, but let's call it that. It's a bid process that will be concluded very early Q3. We are moving forward on that, which is a reasonable of megawatt for us. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:10:20We also have approximately 300 MW-350 MW of projects that are going to be in a subsequent process. That is gonna be on the tail end of that, but not by much time. We think that could likely wrap up in Q3. At the end of Q3. The first 300-400 will have line of sight beginning of Q3. The next 300, end of Q3. I would say in addition to these two processes, you know, we have another sort of 200 MW of solar and a large storage-only project that we'll be moving forward throughout the year. With those, we would be aiming to achieve contracts early 2027. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:11:08Nothing to announce yet, although I don't think it's that long before we will have some announcements for Mexico. We have high expectations for news on that front in the near term. I think with if we achieve ASAP in the short term here and Mexico, although it's taken longer than we want, I think you will see the path forward for the next two, three years will be much more defined. Everyone will know what where we're driving at, what the capital requirements are, what the uses of capital that we have on the balance sheet are, and sort of what the projected EBITDA numbers are gonna be for the next three or four years. With that, I'll open it up for questions. Operator00:11:57Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting our question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue, and you may press star two if you wish to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Nick Boychuk with ATB Cormark. Your line is live. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:12:37Perfect. Thanks, Marc. Good morning. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:12:38Good morning. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:12:39In Puerto Rico, can we get a little bit of an update on the battery energy storage procurement process, specifically costs, construction, and just your thoughts on how that might then play out into some of these other battery energy storage opportunities? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:12:53We are in continual conversations with the groups or really two key ones that were in the procurement process. Given the lithium prices, you know, we do know that the costs are gonna go up somewhat. I think it'll be in the, when you look at the total project cost though, I don't think it's gonna be super material. There will be some increase in the CapEx, I would say maybe $5 million-$8 million. Whereas we were at sort of $60 million-$65 million, I think it's gonna go up for sure. I'm not worried about timelines though. It's really, I think it's just a cost issue right now. I think timelines are still very good, so delivery within nine months kind of thing. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:13:49Okay. We're still on track for, call it, an H2 full production, in 2027 in ASAP? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:13:56Yeah. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:13:57Okay. Regarding the Dominican curtailment, you mentioned that storage could be added there. How much storage would that market need in order to address this issue? Are you getting any signs from them on how they want to address that? Is it gonna be a similar program to ASAP or something a little bit different? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:14:14Yeah, I think it'll be a very similar program to ASAP. We've been in consultation with them for over a year now on it, and I think it's just a very much a SADA-type contract, where they're the ones doing the dispatch at specific nodes. I think we have discussed what they have sort of, I would say, not published, but discussed is about 400 MW-500 MW. I think that I think it's that's in the right range. I think 400 MW-600 MW is the right number. If you look at, if you take, let's just say 400 MW times four hours, so four hours is the right number too. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:14:571,600 MWh, you know, times that by, you know, maybe 150, 200 to you know, you're talking about to call it resolve the issues on the island. It's sort of a $200 million-$300 million CapEx issue, which is not that big in the grand scheme of things. We're still waiting for the final, call it, bid process. They held a meeting call it a month and a half ago. They kind of gave those guidelines as to what they're looking for, and that they will come out with the final numbers shortly. I think in the next month we'll know exactly whether it's 400, 500, 600, four hours, what the timelines they're looking for. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:15:44That will get announced, I think, very shortly, then we'll know exactly, you know, what those numbers are. I do think we will look to participate in that, because I do think that'll resolve the situation on the ground. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:16:00Okay. Excellent. Thanks. In Mexico. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:16:01If you think, let's say they come out by the end of June or something at the latest. You know, realistically, let's say that's a three-month process, right? To run it. I think you could have something in Q4 of next year, maybe it's Q1 of the following year. In terms of whether we're sort of really call it participating/winning in that process, just vis-à -vis our current production, we would see curtailment this year, less curtailment next year given just the overall demand growth. Some reversion to normal the following year. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:16:52Okay. That makes sense. In Mexico, you mentioned there's those three different bid processes. I think the total is very close to about a gigawatt of solar plus a little bit of battery energy storage. I just wanna confirm, those are all independent projects, right? Like you're. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:17:04Right. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:17:05It's not as if in the first bucket you mentioned 300 to 400, nothing slips into the subsequent two processes. Like, these are independent 1 GW of opportunities to you? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:17:14Yes. It's I should have maybe highlighted that, but it's an important point, which is that if the way that they're doing things there is they actually call them convocatorias, where people get invited. You have to be pre-cleared to get invited. They're running them sequentially. If one of your projects doesn't move forward or you decide you don't wanna continue moving it forward in, let's say, the first and most current one, nothing prevents you from going into the next one or the next one. It's not as if they just then fall off forever. Given, call it, the need for power there, the demand pull, and the reserve margins are at sort of all-time lows there. Their needs for procuring power are very high. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:18:06Obviously we'd like a lot sooner than later, but I don't think that, you know, if one of our 100 MW project doesn't sort of go forward in the current one, that doesn't mean it falls off completely. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:18:24Okay, got it. Thanks. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:18:25Also even though it's three processes, they're not gonna be that far behind one another. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:18:34Does that have an implication for you on financing? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:18:37Like we're talking one quarter. You know, this one's call it all happening this quarter. The next one's gonna happen the next quarter. The next one's probably the following quarter. It should really roll out quite quickly. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:18:52Okay. I guess on that timing and that speed, does that have an implication or a change in how you're thinking about financing a gigawatt of solar? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:19:03A little bit, I would say that, first it's cash on the balance sheet, which we continue to build cash. Second, I think we are quite confident that, we have more capital available on the fixed income side, based on what we did, you know, a year half ago. I would also say though that, for Mexico, there's for sure more project finance there if we wanted to tap that. These are good long-term contracts. There's a lot of banks that, you know, very willing to lend there. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:19:37I would also say that, to the extent that, you kind of use up those sources, then you're saying, "Oh, well, do you need equity?" We look to do that, but I would say if Polaris share price is anywhere near where it is today, we would more likely look to having a local equity partner for Mexico only. There is a lot of, I would call it equity capital, infrastructure capital in Mexico that I think is very interested in sort of partnering with a Canadian public company on these projects. I think we've got several options. It would, you know, all not even going to the equity side is because it's all happening quite quickly, right? Ours has been that this stuff hasn't been happening quick enough for us. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:20:31If it really does get to that, you know, it's cash first, more debt. Our total balance sheet is still very conservative, right? More debt, and then if it's happening so fast we require equity, you know, we would have several options, in my opinion. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:20:53Okay. That's awesome. I appreciate the color and time. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:20:56Thanks, Nick. Operator00:20:58Thank you. Our next question is coming from Baltej Sidhu with National Bank of Canada. Your line is live. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:21:07Hey, good morning. Just a couple from me. On the curtailment of the DR that increased significantly here in Q1, could you just share or elaborate some views on where that kicked out relative to your expectations for the year? That revised guidance downward, is that stemming totally from the curtailment, updated curtailment projections, or are there other, any elements that we should be considering? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:21:33That's only from curtailment. The plant technically and operationally is totally fine. We were expecting high in January. It's a very much an air-conditioned load, so, and it's winter, so believe it or not, if it's 27 degrees high there versus 33, does make a big difference on the load. We were expecting January to be high. February was lower. March was higher than everybody was expecting because they were running several tests for some call it thermal units that they needed to run for 30 days. The renewables were curtailed at a higher level. It has dropped since then. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:22:21I think we're gonna be in the $10,000-$12,000 a quarter for this quarter, next quarter, and then by December, it'll start to creep up again. I think we're running sort of 30%-40% curtailment this year, maybe 5%, 10% lower than that next year based on just lower load growth. As I mentioned earlier, to the extent they go and contract with SADA, which I think they will, it should be much lower, call it in 2028, and normalizing, you know, thereafter. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:01Great. If you get batteries online, relatively, let's say, at scale in 2028, it should revert back to normalized values. If not, you know, be minimal, if anything. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:11Yeah, I would say if it hasn't, it's where you should be in the 5%-10% range curtailment. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:18Great. Awesome. For the PRRP, could you just elaborate on how the economics on an [PRRP] has looked, and what could COD look like if we're targeting Q3, I think was what you had mentioned in the prepared remarks? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:34I think the first one is sort of target IRRs. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:39Yeah. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:40Well, I mean, it is a competitive process, so I need to be somewhat guarded. I would say most people. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:50Competitive is like a- Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:51Yeah. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:53Most people- Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:53What I would say is I think competitive market there is, call it unlevered of $12, you know, plus maybe a bit with levered of, you know, $17.5-$22.5. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:24:08Great. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:24:09I think that's what we've seen and what we think most participants view the market as there. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:24:14Yeah. No, that's great. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:24:15You know, the ASAP is gonna be a bit higher, we think, because we already have an interconnect. That, you know, that's a big reason why they wanted to do ASAP. For new connections, it's more in the range I just said. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:24:30Great. Then just given, you know, the organic development opportunities that we're seeing in your growth pipeline, if you were to rank these on a priority basis, or no ranking, how would you kind of classify them, should they all be available as of right now? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:24:48Good question. I would obviously, the ASAP number one that we're waiting on. Then I would actually put the things we're doing in Mexico as number two, or at least the first one. Then I would put, you know, right on its tails though, the RFP in Puerto Rico. Then, and then more Mexico, and then, and I would say the DR SADA after that. Then after that, it's this, it's M&A. I think, you know, we have the small one. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:25:17I would just say that, based on what we're looking at, we do think that the development of the solar and/or the BESS or the solar and the BESS is just a higher return than some of the M&A we've looked at, which has come down in valuation, but not enough, not close enough, to justify it in our opinion. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:25:39Do you see that spread in valuation continuing to compress, or do you see you know, from your remark that it's come down. Do you think it could come down a little bit more? Is it going to stabilize out where the, where the market dynamics are playing out? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:25:52That's a great question. I don't see it coming down that much. I think, like, it already did. The issue for us is it just has didn't come down quite enough for us. I think the issue is more about us necessarily than them. A lot of these projects, you have high net worth owners, right? That might have $10 million or $20 million or $30 million in a project, and their proxy is a bit more They compare that to owning long bonds, right? If they think that they can still get a 10% return on a solar hydro project, I think, you know, that's not great. If they're comparing it to just buying UST bills or long bonds, I find that they're a bit sticky. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:26:40They're stickier than you would think. Whereas I'm actually more confident if I had to bet that if we actually start putting some runs on the board here in terms of these growth projects, that we will reduce the gap, not by them coming down, but by us going up. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:27:00Great. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:27:01I think for that to start to look, call it attractive to us. We're not talking three points. Like I think it's about 1-1.5 to get back to where some M&A is accretive. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:27:19Well, no, that's great color. Thank you, Marc. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:27:23Thanks. Operator00:27:25Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press star one on your keypad. Our next question is coming from [Patrick O'Donnell] with Brookline Capital. Your line is live. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:27:41Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my call. I had two-parter on the Mexico opportunities. The first part is, how would you compare the project development process in Mexico to other jurisdictions that you're working in in terms of navigating the government permitting regulations, finding contracting partners and their willingness to work with outside or international companies? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:28:07I would, on an actual dollar basis, it's lower. I would, let me rephrase that. On a per megawatt basis, it's lower. The projects are bigger. Maybe the dollars are somewhat higher, but on an actual unitary basis, they're lower. And I would also say because of the demand pull, at least what we're seeing is it's moving. The bigger issue that we experience is time. In some of the other markets that we're currently in, the time is much longer, whereas the government side is really engaged in Mexico and it's Is it crazy fast? No, it is moving at a reasonable clip there, whereas in some of the other jurisdictions, the development timelines are much longer. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:03Got it. That's great to hear. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:29:08Oh. Yeah, sorry. I think there was also this international invest-. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:11Go ahead. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:29:12I would say that, at least we sense, I mean, we're biased, but the sense we're getting is that at least Canada is in a, call it a good spot as a foreign investor right now in Mexico. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:28Yeah. They seem pretty friendly with these kind of international company partnerships establishing kind of long-term infrastructure in their country. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:29:38Yes. That's very much the sense we're getting. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:43That's great to hear. My next question is, on those opportunities, what are the typical offtake terms that you're seeing, from these projects in terms of like the term and, if there's anything you could share on pricing? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:30:03Well, the key ones that I can share would be you're getting good tenor, so call it 20 year ±, but up to 25. Good, good length. Can do US dollars, which is really important for us. Those we definitely, you know, I think our overall, call it credit profile, contract profile would actually improve significantly. I can't really comment on pricing, but I would say we're seeing, we think it's gonna be at returns that are attractive and are not gonna be sort of bid down to, you know, call it below acceptable levels. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:30:54Got it. For these size of projects, are you kind of feeding into like national utility infrastructure, or do you have to have specific off-takers like industrial customers? I guess, what's kind of the makeup of the off-takers? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:31:12You can do either. Our goal right now is just the grid scale. The main government entity there is called CFE. We're really gunning for that for now. There are conversations that we're having with some where you do direct to industrial buyers. Sometimes that's behind the fence. They could even contract with you directly at a grid scale. We are having those. That's not our number one goal right now. I do think that that's an opportunity there, just again, given the demand need, and you have a lot of industrial consumers really wanting it. It's always a bit trickier in terms of credit and doing project finance on those. I wouldn't say that that's our priority right now. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:32:06Got it. Okay. Thank you. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:32:08Thank you. Operator00:32:12Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of our question and answer session, and therefore our call. This will conclude today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:32:27Thank you. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Polaris Renewable Energy Incorporated's first quarter 2026 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode, and a question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Alba Seisdedos, Chief Financial Officer with Polaris Renewable Energy. Ma'am, the floor is yours. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:00:39Thanks, Ali. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our 2026 first quarter earnings call for Polaris Renewable Energy Inc. Before we begin, we would like to remind you that in addition to our press releases issued earlier today, you can find our financial statements and MD&A on both SEDAR+ and our corporate website at polarisrei.com. Unless noted otherwise, all amounts referred to are denominated in US dollars. We would also like to remind you that comments made during this call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable Canadian securities legislation regarding the future performance of Polaris Renewable Energy Inc. and its subsidiaries. These statements are current expectations and as such, are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:01:28These risks and uncertainties include the factors discussed in the company's annual information form for the year ended December 31st, 2025. On today's call, I will walk through our operating and financial results for the first quarter of 2026. Marc will then provide additional commentary on our Q1 performance and growth initiatives. Following our remarks, we will look forward to taking your questions. Starting with production. Overall, the first quarter 2026 demonstrate the benefits of our diversified portfolio despite temporary external factors affecting production during the quarter. While consolidated production decreased 5% year-over-year, due primarily to a scheduled major maintenance in Nicaragua and elevated curtailment in the Dominican Republic, the broader portfolio continued to perform well with a strong hydrology in Peru, a stable production in Ecuador and Panama, and a full quarter contribution from Puerto Rico, helping offset a portion of this impact. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:02:26Importantly, these temporary factors did not materially affect the company's financial flexibility, liquidity position, or our availability to continue advancing strategic growth initiatives. In Nicaragua, unit three underwent planned the annual maintenance during February, which resulted in 17 days of downtime. Plant availability outside the maintenance period remains strong. In the Dominican Republic, curtailment averaged 42% during the quarter, compared to an average 7% curtailment in the same period last year, materially impacting realized generation. Curtailment has moderated quarter-over-quarter, in Q2, the timing of normalization remains uncertain. In Peru, hydroelectric production increased year-over-year due to improved hydrological conditions and resource availability. During March, Peru also experienced temporary energy shortages, which resulted in elevated spot market pricing and positive benefit to Canchayllo following fulfillment of its annual PPA obligations. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:03:26In addition, Puerto Rico contributed a full quarter of operating results during Q1 2026, compared to only one month of contribution following the acquisition in the comparative period last year, adding 12,698 MWh to the consolidated production during the quarter. In Ecuador and Panama, production remained generally consistent with the comparative period last year, reflecting stable hydrological and solar resource availability, as well as continued strong plant performance. Moving on to financials. From a financial perspective, revenue for the quarter was $19.8 million, down 3% from $20.3 million in Q1 2025. Adjusted EBITDA was $13.5 million compared to $15 million in the comparative period, reflecting the lower production levels and revenue discussed earlier and the cost impacting from integrating our Puerto Rican operations. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:04:17Direct costs across the rest of the operations remain in line with 2025 levels. Cash flow from operating activities was $8.5 million, and we ended the quarter with $97.5 million of total cash, including restricted cash, up from $93.2 million at year-end 2025. Our balance sheet remains strong, and we continue to maintain financial flexibility and focus on execution and advancing the pipeline for long-term value creation. I would also like to highlight that we continue to prioritize shareholder returns. We have already announced that we will be paying a quarterly dividend on May 22nd of $0.15 per share to shareholders of record on May 13th. With that, I will turn the call over to Marc. Thank you. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:04:59Thanks, Alba. Just a few minor comments on operations. As Alba mentioned, we completed the major maintenance, planned maintenance at San Jacinto, on a pure sort of days of downtime that would've cost about 8,000 MWh. Given that we need to close a whole bunch of wells, some of those take, when you reopen them, but they take a little bit longer to actually reach their pre-maintenance capacity levels. When we look at the quarter, I would say, given that process, not for all the wells, but for a couple of the wells, it ends up being that instead of sort of -8,000 MWh per quarter, it's closer to 12,000-13,000. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:05:55I think the actual, let's call it maintenance cost in the quarter was about, let's say, 12,500 MWh approximately. The wells have recovered to their pre-maintenance capacity levels. They're at sort of levels that are as per our expectations going into the year. The Dominican curtailment was somewhat higher than anticipated. We think it was about 7,000 MWh estimate. This will be stronger in their winter months. It has come down in April, continues to come down here in May. We expect that to continue. We are targeting an annual number of sort of 40,000 MWh-45,000 MWh for the year. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:06:51Given that, continuing to improve next year and the following, given the plans to put large-scale SADA in place in the next 18 to 24 months in the country. That was a negative, although it was somewhat offset by the hydros in both Peru and Ecuador, which performed really well in the quarter. We're happy about that. Based on those comments, I would say, though, for full year consolidated production guidance, down slightly to about 760 GWh-770 GWh. In terms of the growth, on the last call I mentioned we had signed an LOI on this very small solar project. It continues to move. Unfortunately, the vendor just wasn't, call it, legally ready to move to the documentation phase. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:07:43We've finished our technicals diligence. We're ready to go, but the ball is in their court, so we are confident moving forward, but will not likely to close until Q3. The big one that we're all waiting for is the ASAP approval. PREPA board in Puerto Rico did approve the project on February 19th, which we've been waiting for for a long time. We are still awaiting approval from the FOMB, which is the last approval needed. Once they approve it does go back to PREPA for signature, but that's not an approval at that point. This really is the last approval. I know this is taking longer than what everybody wants. We do not think that there is a problem with it. There is no issue. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:08:31There are just some other things that are happening that are taking FOMB's attention right now. We are optimistic we will receive it prior to the end of this quarter. In Puerto Rico, we are also participating in an RFP that is where our final proposal is actually due this Monday. That is an even larger project. It's solar plus BESS. The process is moving relatively quickly, and we think it will move quicker than the ASAP process given that it's the infrastructure, the P3 group that is driving this. Once we submit the final proposal on Monday, we will have notification as to whether we're, I think, call it, being chosen in late June, so end of Q2, with contracting targeted for Q3. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:09:32That would be quite soon. And those would be the two main things that we're working on in Puerto Rico. We do have other conversations with developers going, but I would say our priority really is obviously ASAP, but also this RFP if we're able to have success in that. In terms of the other main market we're focusing on right now is Mexico. We have approximately 300 MW-400 MW of solar projects in a current, technically not a bid process, but let's call it that. It's a bid process that will be concluded very early Q3. We are moving forward on that, which is a reasonable of megawatt for us. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:10:20We also have approximately 300 MW-350 MW of projects that are going to be in a subsequent process. That is gonna be on the tail end of that, but not by much time. We think that could likely wrap up in Q3. At the end of Q3. The first 300-400 will have line of sight beginning of Q3. The next 300, end of Q3. I would say in addition to these two processes, you know, we have another sort of 200 MW of solar and a large storage-only project that we'll be moving forward throughout the year. With those, we would be aiming to achieve contracts early 2027. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:11:08Nothing to announce yet, although I don't think it's that long before we will have some announcements for Mexico. We have high expectations for news on that front in the near term. I think with if we achieve ASAP in the short term here and Mexico, although it's taken longer than we want, I think you will see the path forward for the next two, three years will be much more defined. Everyone will know what where we're driving at, what the capital requirements are, what the uses of capital that we have on the balance sheet are, and sort of what the projected EBITDA numbers are gonna be for the next three or four years. With that, I'll open it up for questions. Operator00:11:57Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting our question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue, and you may press star two if you wish to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from Nick Boychuk with ATB Cormark. Your line is live. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:12:37Perfect. Thanks, Marc. Good morning. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:12:38Good morning. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:12:39In Puerto Rico, can we get a little bit of an update on the battery energy storage procurement process, specifically costs, construction, and just your thoughts on how that might then play out into some of these other battery energy storage opportunities? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:12:53We are in continual conversations with the groups or really two key ones that were in the procurement process. Given the lithium prices, you know, we do know that the costs are gonna go up somewhat. I think it'll be in the, when you look at the total project cost though, I don't think it's gonna be super material. There will be some increase in the CapEx, I would say maybe $5 million-$8 million. Whereas we were at sort of $60 million-$65 million, I think it's gonna go up for sure. I'm not worried about timelines though. It's really, I think it's just a cost issue right now. I think timelines are still very good, so delivery within nine months kind of thing. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:13:49Okay. We're still on track for, call it, an H2 full production, in 2027 in ASAP? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:13:56Yeah. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:13:57Okay. Regarding the Dominican curtailment, you mentioned that storage could be added there. How much storage would that market need in order to address this issue? Are you getting any signs from them on how they want to address that? Is it gonna be a similar program to ASAP or something a little bit different? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:14:14Yeah, I think it'll be a very similar program to ASAP. We've been in consultation with them for over a year now on it, and I think it's just a very much a SADA-type contract, where they're the ones doing the dispatch at specific nodes. I think we have discussed what they have sort of, I would say, not published, but discussed is about 400 MW-500 MW. I think that I think it's that's in the right range. I think 400 MW-600 MW is the right number. If you look at, if you take, let's just say 400 MW times four hours, so four hours is the right number too. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:14:571,600 MWh, you know, times that by, you know, maybe 150, 200 to you know, you're talking about to call it resolve the issues on the island. It's sort of a $200 million-$300 million CapEx issue, which is not that big in the grand scheme of things. We're still waiting for the final, call it, bid process. They held a meeting call it a month and a half ago. They kind of gave those guidelines as to what they're looking for, and that they will come out with the final numbers shortly. I think in the next month we'll know exactly whether it's 400, 500, 600, four hours, what the timelines they're looking for. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:15:44That will get announced, I think, very shortly, then we'll know exactly, you know, what those numbers are. I do think we will look to participate in that, because I do think that'll resolve the situation on the ground. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:16:00Okay. Excellent. Thanks. In Mexico. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:16:01If you think, let's say they come out by the end of June or something at the latest. You know, realistically, let's say that's a three-month process, right? To run it. I think you could have something in Q4 of next year, maybe it's Q1 of the following year. In terms of whether we're sort of really call it participating/winning in that process, just vis-à -vis our current production, we would see curtailment this year, less curtailment next year given just the overall demand growth. Some reversion to normal the following year. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:16:52Okay. That makes sense. In Mexico, you mentioned there's those three different bid processes. I think the total is very close to about a gigawatt of solar plus a little bit of battery energy storage. I just wanna confirm, those are all independent projects, right? Like you're. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:17:04Right. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:17:05It's not as if in the first bucket you mentioned 300 to 400, nothing slips into the subsequent two processes. Like, these are independent 1 GW of opportunities to you? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:17:14Yes. It's I should have maybe highlighted that, but it's an important point, which is that if the way that they're doing things there is they actually call them convocatorias, where people get invited. You have to be pre-cleared to get invited. They're running them sequentially. If one of your projects doesn't move forward or you decide you don't wanna continue moving it forward in, let's say, the first and most current one, nothing prevents you from going into the next one or the next one. It's not as if they just then fall off forever. Given, call it, the need for power there, the demand pull, and the reserve margins are at sort of all-time lows there. Their needs for procuring power are very high. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:18:06Obviously we'd like a lot sooner than later, but I don't think that, you know, if one of our 100 MW project doesn't sort of go forward in the current one, that doesn't mean it falls off completely. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:18:24Okay, got it. Thanks. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:18:25Also even though it's three processes, they're not gonna be that far behind one another. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:18:34Does that have an implication for you on financing? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:18:37Like we're talking one quarter. You know, this one's call it all happening this quarter. The next one's gonna happen the next quarter. The next one's probably the following quarter. It should really roll out quite quickly. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:18:52Okay. I guess on that timing and that speed, does that have an implication or a change in how you're thinking about financing a gigawatt of solar? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:19:03A little bit, I would say that, first it's cash on the balance sheet, which we continue to build cash. Second, I think we are quite confident that, we have more capital available on the fixed income side, based on what we did, you know, a year half ago. I would also say though that, for Mexico, there's for sure more project finance there if we wanted to tap that. These are good long-term contracts. There's a lot of banks that, you know, very willing to lend there. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:19:37I would also say that, to the extent that, you kind of use up those sources, then you're saying, "Oh, well, do you need equity?" We look to do that, but I would say if Polaris share price is anywhere near where it is today, we would more likely look to having a local equity partner for Mexico only. There is a lot of, I would call it equity capital, infrastructure capital in Mexico that I think is very interested in sort of partnering with a Canadian public company on these projects. I think we've got several options. It would, you know, all not even going to the equity side is because it's all happening quite quickly, right? Ours has been that this stuff hasn't been happening quick enough for us. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:20:31If it really does get to that, you know, it's cash first, more debt. Our total balance sheet is still very conservative, right? More debt, and then if it's happening so fast we require equity, you know, we would have several options, in my opinion. Nick BoychukAnalyst at ATB Cormark00:20:53Okay. That's awesome. I appreciate the color and time. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:20:56Thanks, Nick. Operator00:20:58Thank you. Our next question is coming from Baltej Sidhu with National Bank of Canada. Your line is live. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:21:07Hey, good morning. Just a couple from me. On the curtailment of the DR that increased significantly here in Q1, could you just share or elaborate some views on where that kicked out relative to your expectations for the year? That revised guidance downward, is that stemming totally from the curtailment, updated curtailment projections, or are there other, any elements that we should be considering? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:21:33That's only from curtailment. The plant technically and operationally is totally fine. We were expecting high in January. It's a very much an air-conditioned load, so, and it's winter, so believe it or not, if it's 27 degrees high there versus 33, does make a big difference on the load. We were expecting January to be high. February was lower. March was higher than everybody was expecting because they were running several tests for some call it thermal units that they needed to run for 30 days. The renewables were curtailed at a higher level. It has dropped since then. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:22:21I think we're gonna be in the $10,000-$12,000 a quarter for this quarter, next quarter, and then by December, it'll start to creep up again. I think we're running sort of 30%-40% curtailment this year, maybe 5%, 10% lower than that next year based on just lower load growth. As I mentioned earlier, to the extent they go and contract with SADA, which I think they will, it should be much lower, call it in 2028, and normalizing, you know, thereafter. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:01Great. If you get batteries online, relatively, let's say, at scale in 2028, it should revert back to normalized values. If not, you know, be minimal, if anything. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:11Yeah, I would say if it hasn't, it's where you should be in the 5%-10% range curtailment. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:18Great. Awesome. For the PRRP, could you just elaborate on how the economics on an [PRRP] has looked, and what could COD look like if we're targeting Q3, I think was what you had mentioned in the prepared remarks? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:34I think the first one is sort of target IRRs. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:39Yeah. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:40Well, I mean, it is a competitive process, so I need to be somewhat guarded. I would say most people. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:50Competitive is like a- Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:51Yeah. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:23:53Most people- Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:23:53What I would say is I think competitive market there is, call it unlevered of $12, you know, plus maybe a bit with levered of, you know, $17.5-$22.5. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:24:08Great. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:24:09I think that's what we've seen and what we think most participants view the market as there. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:24:14Yeah. No, that's great. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:24:15You know, the ASAP is gonna be a bit higher, we think, because we already have an interconnect. That, you know, that's a big reason why they wanted to do ASAP. For new connections, it's more in the range I just said. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:24:30Great. Then just given, you know, the organic development opportunities that we're seeing in your growth pipeline, if you were to rank these on a priority basis, or no ranking, how would you kind of classify them, should they all be available as of right now? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:24:48Good question. I would obviously, the ASAP number one that we're waiting on. Then I would actually put the things we're doing in Mexico as number two, or at least the first one. Then I would put, you know, right on its tails though, the RFP in Puerto Rico. Then, and then more Mexico, and then, and I would say the DR SADA after that. Then after that, it's this, it's M&A. I think, you know, we have the small one. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:25:17I would just say that, based on what we're looking at, we do think that the development of the solar and/or the BESS or the solar and the BESS is just a higher return than some of the M&A we've looked at, which has come down in valuation, but not enough, not close enough, to justify it in our opinion. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:25:39Do you see that spread in valuation continuing to compress, or do you see you know, from your remark that it's come down. Do you think it could come down a little bit more? Is it going to stabilize out where the, where the market dynamics are playing out? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:25:52That's a great question. I don't see it coming down that much. I think, like, it already did. The issue for us is it just has didn't come down quite enough for us. I think the issue is more about us necessarily than them. A lot of these projects, you have high net worth owners, right? That might have $10 million or $20 million or $30 million in a project, and their proxy is a bit more They compare that to owning long bonds, right? If they think that they can still get a 10% return on a solar hydro project, I think, you know, that's not great. If they're comparing it to just buying UST bills or long bonds, I find that they're a bit sticky. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:26:40They're stickier than you would think. Whereas I'm actually more confident if I had to bet that if we actually start putting some runs on the board here in terms of these growth projects, that we will reduce the gap, not by them coming down, but by us going up. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:27:00Great. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:27:01I think for that to start to look, call it attractive to us. We're not talking three points. Like I think it's about 1-1.5 to get back to where some M&A is accretive. Baltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of Canada00:27:19Well, no, that's great color. Thank you, Marc. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:27:23Thanks. Operator00:27:25Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press star one on your keypad. Our next question is coming from [Patrick O'Donnell] with Brookline Capital. Your line is live. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:27:41Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my call. I had two-parter on the Mexico opportunities. The first part is, how would you compare the project development process in Mexico to other jurisdictions that you're working in in terms of navigating the government permitting regulations, finding contracting partners and their willingness to work with outside or international companies? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:28:07I would, on an actual dollar basis, it's lower. I would, let me rephrase that. On a per megawatt basis, it's lower. The projects are bigger. Maybe the dollars are somewhat higher, but on an actual unitary basis, they're lower. And I would also say because of the demand pull, at least what we're seeing is it's moving. The bigger issue that we experience is time. In some of the other markets that we're currently in, the time is much longer, whereas the government side is really engaged in Mexico and it's Is it crazy fast? No, it is moving at a reasonable clip there, whereas in some of the other jurisdictions, the development timelines are much longer. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:03Got it. That's great to hear. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:29:08Oh. Yeah, sorry. I think there was also this international invest-. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:11Go ahead. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:29:12I would say that, at least we sense, I mean, we're biased, but the sense we're getting is that at least Canada is in a, call it a good spot as a foreign investor right now in Mexico. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:28Yeah. They seem pretty friendly with these kind of international company partnerships establishing kind of long-term infrastructure in their country. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:29:38Yes. That's very much the sense we're getting. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:29:43That's great to hear. My next question is, on those opportunities, what are the typical offtake terms that you're seeing, from these projects in terms of like the term and, if there's anything you could share on pricing? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:30:03Well, the key ones that I can share would be you're getting good tenor, so call it 20 year ±, but up to 25. Good, good length. Can do US dollars, which is really important for us. Those we definitely, you know, I think our overall, call it credit profile, contract profile would actually improve significantly. I can't really comment on pricing, but I would say we're seeing, we think it's gonna be at returns that are attractive and are not gonna be sort of bid down to, you know, call it below acceptable levels. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:30:54Got it. For these size of projects, are you kind of feeding into like national utility infrastructure, or do you have to have specific off-takers like industrial customers? I guess, what's kind of the makeup of the off-takers? Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:31:12You can do either. Our goal right now is just the grid scale. The main government entity there is called CFE. We're really gunning for that for now. There are conversations that we're having with some where you do direct to industrial buyers. Sometimes that's behind the fence. They could even contract with you directly at a grid scale. We are having those. That's not our number one goal right now. I do think that that's an opportunity there, just again, given the demand need, and you have a lot of industrial consumers really wanting it. It's always a bit trickier in terms of credit and doing project finance on those. I wouldn't say that that's our priority right now. Patrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline Capital00:32:06Got it. Okay. Thank you. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:32:08Thank you. Operator00:32:12Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of our question and answer session, and therefore our call. This will conclude today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation. Marc MurnaghanCEO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:32:27Thank you. Alba SeisdedosCFO at Polaris Renewable Energy00:32:28Thank you.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAlba SeisdedosCFOMarc MurnaghanCEOAnalystsBaltej SidhuVP of Equity Research at National Bank of CanadaNick BoychukAnalyst at ATB CormarkPatrick O'DonnellAnalyst at Brookline CapitalPowered by