Horace Mann Educators Q1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Record Q1 core EPS of $1.28, up 20% YoY; company maintained 2026 Core EPS guidance of $4.20–$4.50 and reiterated its 3‑year targets of 10% CAGR in Core EPS and a sustainable 12%–13% ROE.
  • Positive Sentiment: P&C combined ratio improved to 83.3% (a ~5‑point improvement) driven by lower catastrophe costs and underwriting actions; net written premiums rose 5% with property premiums up 14% and auto growth strong outside California.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Life & retirement core earnings rose 16% and life sales were up 17% with persistency near 96%, but fixed‑annuity spreads were pressured this quarter by commercial mortgage exposure and limited partnership returns slightly below expectations.
  • Positive Sentiment: Individual supplemental sales +11% (enhanced cancer product sales doubled) and group benefits sales more than tripled to $11M, reflecting momentum in higher‑margin, capital‑light offerings and cross‑sell from benefit specialists.
  • Positive Sentiment: Board approved a 3% dividend increase (18th consecutive year) and the company returned $33M to shareholders this quarter (including $18M of buybacks); tangible book value per share rose ~9% YoY and management expects ~25 bps of expense ratio improvement in 2026.
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Horace Mann Educators Q1 2026
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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Horace Mann Educators First Quarter 2026 Results Conference Call. All participants will be in the listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star then zero on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there'll be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, you may press star and then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rachael Luber, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, and over to you.

Rachael Luber
Rachael Luber
VP of Investor Relations at Horace Mann Educators

Thank you. Welcome to Horace Mann's discussion of our first quarter 2026 results. Yesterday, we issued our earnings release investor supplement and investor presentation. Copies are available on the Investors page of our website. Our speakers today are Marita Zuraitis, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ryan Greenier, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before turning it over to Marita, I want to note that our presentation today includes forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Rachael Luber
Rachael Luber
VP of Investor Relations at Horace Mann Educators

The company cautions investors that any forward-looking statements include risks and uncertainties and are not guarantees of future performance. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations, and we assume no obligation to update them. Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of factors, which are described in our news release and SEC filings.

Rachael Luber
Rachael Luber
VP of Investor Relations at Horace Mann Educators

In our prepared remarks, we use some non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are available in our investor supplement. I'll now turn the call over to Marita.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Thanks, Rachael. Good morning, everyone. Yesterday, Horace Mann reported record first quarter core earnings per share of $1.28, 20% above the record level of the first quarter earnings we reported last year. Insurance and fee-based revenue increased 6% year-over-year, reflecting growth across our businesses. Life sales were up 17%. Individual supplemental increased 11%. Group benefits delivered a record quarter with sales more than tripling year-over-year. Core shareholder return on equity for the trailing 12 months was 12.7%. These results highlight the strength of our multi-line business model and our ability to deliver consistent, profitable growth across a range of economic and industry conditions.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

We are maintaining our 2026 Core EPS guidance of $4.20-4.50 and remain confident in achieving our three-year strategic goal of a 10% compound annual growth rate in core earnings per share and a sustainable 12%-13% shareholder return on equity. Today, I will discuss the highlights of the quarter and provide an update on our growth progress. Let's start with segment results. Property and Casualty profitability remains strong. The combined ratio of 83.3%, a five-point improvement over the prior year, reflects lower catastrophe costs and improved underlying performance. P&C written premiums increased 5%, and auto and property policyholder retention remains stable and consistently high relative to industry benchmarks. Segment sales reflect our disciplined focus on profitable growth in a competitive auto market.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

We are prioritizing growth in markets where we see the strongest returns. Excluding California, which remains a more complex and highly regulated market for the industry, auto sales increased at a high single-digit rate. Countrywide, property sales increased 11%. In life and retirement, core earnings increased 16% year-over-year, benefiting from lower mortality costs.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Life sales increased 17%, and persistency across both life and retirement remains strong. The individual supplemental and group benefits segment continued to deliver strong growth this quarter. We continue to invest where we see meaningful long-term opportunity. Our approach is to build internally where we can deliver a differentiated best-in-class experience and to partner with leading third parties where it enhances our capabilities and speed to market. In individual supplemental, we are investing in our distribution and product portfolio to support growth.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Our enhanced cancer product continues to be a key driver of growth, with sales doubling year-over-year and building on record performance last year. Across all products, individual supplemental sales increased 11% year-over-year. This high margin, high persistency business also supports strong cross-sell opportunities. Life is a natural adjacency for benefit specialists selling individual supplemental products, and today, approximately 10% of our life sales are consistently generated through that channel.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

In group benefits, we are leveraging partnerships to expand our capabilities, including the recent implementation of a third-party technology platform that supports a fully integrated end-to-end leave management experience for employers and educators. This investment underpins our paid family medical leave enhancement to our short-term disability offering introduced earlier this year in Minnesota. We will evaluate opportunities to expand these capabilities into additional markets over time as adoption continues to grow.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

13 states have enacted paid leave mandates, with more proposals currently under consideration. Employers offering paid leave benefits report higher retention, a key priority for school administrators. Consistent with this, our research shows that 1/4 of educators would be more likely to stay in their role with improved healthcare and protection benefits.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Against this backdrop, group benefit sales more than tripled year-over-year to $11 million. While results can vary from quarter-to-quarter, given the size and timing of our business, our first quarter sales nearly matched our total group benefit sales for all of 2025, highlighting the momentum we are building. Our corporate expense ratio is up slightly over the prior year, but down sequentially. We manage our expenses closely and continue to expect a 25 basis point reduction over the course of 2026.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Turning to how we are expanding our relationships across the educator market. We are reaching more educators than ever before and continuing to build meaningful relationships across our target market. As we have noted, unaided brand awareness among educators has increased to 35%, reflecting the impact of our investments over the past several years. We are building both awareness and affinity through partnerships with well-known, trusted national brands and educational institutions.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

In January, we sponsored Crayola Creativity Week, reaching more than 1 million educators through classroom and professional development activities. We are also excited about our new partnership with Disney. We recently launched a continuing education program, A Heart for Service and Education, developed in collaboration with Disney and delivered through the Disney Institute, with multiple sessions scheduled throughout the year. Each session brings together educators from across the country to participate in immersive, service-focused development experiences.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

We are seeing strong early engagement with the Horace Mann Club, our centralized platform providing financial wellness tools, classroom resources, and educator benefits. Since launching earlier this year, thousands of educators across the country have already enrolled. We are also in the midst of Teacher Appreciation Month, where we continue to connect with educators through our Beyond Grateful campaign.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Last year, we engaged 55,000 new educators during this event and expect another strong outcome this year. We have expanded our digital reach through targeted audio campaigns on platforms like Spotify and Apple Music, meeting educators where they are. Over the past year, we have grown our points of distribution by 8% and continue to enhance the effectiveness of our marketing efforts as we scale these initiatives.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Before I turn the call over to Ryan, I want to underscore our commitment to disciplined capital management and long-term shareholder value. In March, our board of directors approved a 3% increase to our quarterly shareholder dividend, marking the 18th consecutive year of dividend growth. In the quarter, we returned $33 million of capital to shareholders, including $18 million of share repurchases, a significant increase relative to recent periods.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

As we've said before, our highest priority remains investing in profitable growth, and we remain confident in our ability to continue creating long-term value for our shareholders. In closing, our strong start to the year reflects solid underlying performance and continued momentum across the business. We are investing where we see the most attractive returns and where it strengthens our ability to deliver a best-in-class experience for our customers while maintaining expense discipline and executing against our strategy.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

We remain confident in achieving our three-year strategic goals of a 10% compound annual growth rate in Core EPS and a sustainable 12%-13% shareholder ROE. Thank you. Now I'll turn the call over to Ryan.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

Thanks, Marita Zuraitis. I'll focus on a few key takeaways from the quarter and provide some additional context on what's driving the results. This was a very strong start to the year. We delivered record first quarter core earnings of $53 million, or $1.28 per share, up 20% year-over-year, with solid underlying performance across the business, continued margin improvement in P&C, and continued growth in our higher return segments. Core shareholder return on equity for the trailing 12 months was 12.7%. Overall, results are tracking in line with our expectations for the year. We are not making any changes to our outlook. Turning to results by segment. In Property and Casualty, core earnings were $39 million, up 46% year-over-year.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

The reported combined ratio of 83.3 points improved 5 points year-over-year, reflecting lower catastrophe costs and improved underlying results. The $5 million in prior year development included $2 million in property and $3 million in auto. Primarily driven by lower than expected claim severity, with claims settling below prior reserve expectations.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

From a premium standpoint, net written premiums increased 5% to $194 million, primarily reflecting higher average premium. In property, premiums were up 14%, while auto premiums were essentially flat, reflecting a shift in mix towards targeted growth markets. That's consistent with the approach Marita outlined, prioritizing profitability and focusing growth in markets where we see the strongest returns. Auto profitability improved with the combined ratio at 89.2, reflecting strong underlying performance and retention remained strong.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

Property also performed well with a combined ratio of 74.3, supported by lower catastrophe costs. While catastrophe losses in prior year development were favorable in the quarter, we also saw improvement in underlying margins. We continue to incorporate current loss trends into our pricing and underwriting and feel well-positioned given the actions we've taken over the past several quarters.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

In life and retirement, results were stable and improving. Core earnings increased 16% to $9 million, primarily driven by favorable mortality. Life sales were up 17%, with persistency remaining strong, near 96%. In retirement, contract deposits were modestly lower year-over-year, primarily reflecting product mix and market conditions, while fee income and strong persistency continued to support stable earnings. In supplemental and group benefits, the story is about growth and continued investment.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

The segment contributed $12.6 million of core earnings, and net written premiums rose to nearly $71 million. Individual supplemental delivered another strong quarter. Our enhanced cancer product, introduced last year, continues to be a key driver of growth, with sales up 11% year-over-year. The benefit ratio of 30.5 reflects favorable policyholder utilization trends, and persistency remains above 90%.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

In group benefits, results reflect the investments we've made, including the introduction of Paid Family Medical Leave in January within our short-term disability offering in Minnesota. Premiums increased 4% to $38 million, and the benefit ratio of 51.9% moved closer to our longer-term expectations. Sales more than tripled year-over-year to $11 million, although results can vary quarter-to-quarter given the size and timing of the business.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

Total net investment income on the managed portfolio was relatively stable year-over-year. Core fixed income performance remains consistent, with some offset from the commercial mortgage loan fund and runoff that we've discussed previously, as well as Limited Partnership returns that were slightly below our full-year expectation. Limited Partnership returns can vary quarter-to-quarter, and we remain confident in our full-year outlook. We continue to make progress on expense optimization, with early benefits beginning to emerge. As expected, the majority of our targeted improvement will come in later years as scale builds, but we remain on track for approximately 25 basis points of improvement in 2026. Our balance sheet remains strong, and capital generation continues to support both strategic growth initiatives and consistent shareholder returns.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

In the first quarter, we repurchased approximately 420,000 shares at a total cost of $18 million, representing a meaningful increase in activity relative to recent periods. We also returned $15 million to shareholders through dividends. We continue to prioritize investing in profitable growth while returning excess capital to shareholders. Tangible book value per share increased 9% year-over-year, reflecting solid earnings and disciplined capital management.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

Stepping back, the quarter reflects strong underlying performance, improved profitability in Property and Casualty, and continued growth momentum across our businesses. Importantly, the drivers of performance this quarter, margin improvement in P&C, stable and improving results in life and retirement, and growth in higher return businesses like individual supplemental and group benefits, are all consistent with the framework we laid out at Investor Day, supported by continued progress in customer engagement and brand awareness.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

We continue to execute against our strategy with a focus on disciplined underwriting, profitable growth, and thoughtful capital allocation. We remain confident in our ability to deliver our three-year financial targets, including a 10% compound annual growth rate in Core earnings per share and a sustainable 12%-13% return on equity. Thank you. Operator, we're ready for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star and then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. We have the first question on the line of Jack Maiden from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Jack Matten
Jack Matten
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. My first one's on the group business. I'm wondering if you could unpack further what's driving the strong sales growth. I'm curious over time, how significant of a contributor do you think the new paid family medical leave offering can be within that business?

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Yeah, thanks for the question. When we think about our supplemental growth, both individual supplemental, quite frankly, and group, it really has been a very strategic product enhancement strategy. You heard in the script that we built out our cancer product within individual supplemental and, you know, updated that offering, and we're seeing nice traction there. On the group side, not only is it the new Paid Family Leave connection to our short-term disability offering, we also have about a 30% increase in the amount of benefit specialists out there, and the work that we're doing on the supplemental side. For Paid Family Leave, I think it's just a really good example of thinking about our customer segment and what our customer segment needs. You know, bundling it with short-term disability was the right answer for us.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

As you pointed out, it's been a meaningful contributor to the sales in the quarter. Our group business is still relatively small, so we're focused on building a sustainable pipeline. It's not necessarily gonna be linear. This is gonna be quarter-over-quarter for us as we think about growth. We thought about PFML as both defense and offense. There are about 13 states out there that have included this in their mandate, if you will. We know our educators are looking for increased benefits. We see improvement in retention when we build out these products. Defensively, in a state like Minnesota, adding that to our short-term disability offering allowed us to keep the good groups, the good schools that we have in Minnesota, but also on the offense side, it allowed us, you know, an edge for new customer engagement.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

That's how we'll think about it as we think about, you know, the remaining states out there in our footprint, and maybe a really good way for us to think about how we enter some new geographies as well. It's a, it's a good example of how we think about our customer segment building what they need, and when you build it, they will come, I guess. That clearly is what, you know, what occurred this quarter.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

Jack, this is Ryan. The only thing I would add is when I think about our ROE trajectory, growth in these capital light, higher margin products, you know, are a key component of, you know, our strategy to drive higher ROE in the future.

Jack Matten
Jack Matten
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

That's helpful. Thank you. Maybe just one on the life and retirement business, which has thrown off healthy and stable margins over time. Just wondering about the top line growth outlook there. I think it's a little bit this quarter. I know part of that might be lower CML and LP returns, but any trends that you're seeing on the premium and contract deposit growth in that business that we should be thinking about?

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Yeah, Ryan can cover some of the numbers. What I would say in life and retirement, you know, we are seeing, you know, a 17% increase in life sales. That's healthy. We're seeing more of our traditional agents in the game. That's also healthy. 10% of our life sales now on a relatively consistent basis is coming from benefit specialists who, you know, at the beginning of this integration, when we brought on NTA and then later MNL, were predominantly in that individual supplemental space. Now they are selling Horace Mann life products, and it's, you know, amounting to about 10% of our sales there. It's working very well. On the retirement side, we always talk about that as our ballast, and I would say retirement continues to be a very consistent, steady contributor to earnings.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

If you isolate for just sales were up 7% in the first quarter for retirement. We're attracting a few thousand new customers in the first quarter, opening new retirement accounts with us. Like Marita said, it's an important product, an important entry point for many educators to begin their relationship with us. On the bottom line, you correctly pointed out the commercial mortgage loan allocation. As a reminder, our commercial mortgage loan funds are nearly entirely held within life and retirement, and retirement has a larger allocation to them. When there's some pressure there, you're gonna see that in the fixed annuity spread number. You can see that this quarter.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

You know, overall, the business is solid, it's steady, and it's an important earnings diversification, tool for us.

Jack Matten
Jack Matten
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Thank you. If I could just sneak one more in, on auto insurance. I think you referenced some challenges in California, offset by strong sales growth in other states. Just wondering if you could elaborate on what you're seeing in California and your outlook for growth there.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Yeah, thanks for asking. When we think about auto, obviously, we think about all the states that we're in, but California specifically. When you take California out of our growth numbers, like we said in the script, we are seeing, you know, high single-digit growth in auto, which in this competitive environment for us, I think is quite strong. California is highly regulated. It's complex. We took an intentional conservative approach in the state. We remain active in the state. We've been working very closely with the department. You know, as we've talked about before, we have reached target profitability in all of our states except California, and California is dangerously close, if you will, to targeted profitability, and we feel very confident that we'll get there.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

As you can imagine, when you think thoughtfully about where you place agents, when you think thoughtfully about where you make marketing investments, when you think thoughtfully about the things you do intentionally to drive auto new business, California wouldn't necessarily be the state in which we were making those investments. It takes a while to ramp them back up. We will continue to take a conservative and appropriately cautious approach to California. We feel really good about the momentum that we're seeing in auto in this environment outside of California. Like I said, California was intentional.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

I think it is a state that you need to be thoughtful and, you know, conservative and feel good about the work with the department and feel like we're getting, you know, close to California being like the rest of the states where we're, you know, wide open and ready to push.

Jack Matten
Jack Matten
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We have the next question on the line of Wilma Burdis from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Wilma Burdis
Wilma Burdis
Analyst at Raymond James

Hey, good morning. Can you talk a little bit more about how much of the good combined ratio in P&C comes from favorable claims experience and some of the variability there in the quarter, and how much is just, I guess, just more diligent underwriting going to stick around a little bit longer, especially given some others seem to be leaning in aggressively on pricing. Thanks.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

Morning, Wilma. Thanks for the question. You know, the combined ratio improved 5.4 points this quarter and was an 83.3, and both auto and property contributed to that improvement. Stepping back, about half of that improvement was weather-related. We didn't experience as severe of weather activity in the first quarter, which benefited both property catastrophe and our non-catastrophe property results. The other half reflects the disciplined rate and non-rate actions that we've deliberately taken to restore profitability and to get the book back to our targets. You know, we're seeing the benefits of the actions we've taken, whether it's terms and conditions, implementations of roof schedules, increases in deductibles, improved claims handling. You know, that's all coming through our results.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

We believe, you know, that's durable, that's sustainable, and we're pleased with the profitability in our P&C book.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Yeah, I'd add. Thanks, Ryan. That was a good layout there. I want to add on to the latter half of that as you were ending your question. You say as others are, you know, powering up for growth or lower pricing. I think it's important to talk about really how we think about this. I mean, clearly it's a competitive market out there. Shopping activity is clearly up. When others talk about powering up for growth, and we've said this before, we really don't think about it that way. We're powering up, but we're powering up the value that we're bringing to our customers. Customer engagement's up, brand recognition is up. When I think about auto, and that seems to be the basis of your question, you know, we talk about insulated but not immune.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

We're not immune to the competitive environment that's out there, but we are insulated somewhat by our strategy. Growth's not one line or one state. We think about it much more broadly than that. I mean, it is about us expanding the relationships that we have with educators and it increasing that educator household count. We're seeing strong results there. I mean, we talked in the script that, and we just mentioned it, ex California being in up mid-single digits in auto in this environment, we actually feel very good about that. We're excited about being able to bring more of these things to California as well.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

More importantly, when we step back with group benefits tripling, individual supplemental up 11%, life up 17%, you know, property countrywide up 11%, you know, the stable ballast we're getting from retirement, the momentum's good. We really don't think about ramping up or ramping down. We think about increasing educator households, and that's exactly what we're doing. When you add that to the customer retention that we're seeing and how healthy it is, you know, low to mid-90s in life and retirement and supplemental, near 90 for property, a decent 84 in auto, those are pretty strong numbers, and I would say that does add up to momentum. Maybe it's our way, not necessarily the way a monoline auto writer would do it or some of the P&C-only writers that you cover.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Our story is a little bit different, but it is playing out consistently with what we laid out. Against our internal plans, we're right where we wanted to be this quarter and feel strong about the result.

Wilma Burdis
Wilma Burdis
Analyst at Raymond James

Thank you. I think you touched on this a little bit, but can you talk more about the strategy of, I am gonna call it reinvesting back into your teachers via programs and donations, and how that fits into your overall capital plans? Definitely realize the importance of this. There's a lot of pressure on classroom budgets, and it seems like you guys have leaned into some of these programs and donations, given the good core results. Thanks.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Yeah. Thank you for the question. It's at the heart and the core of what we've always done as a company, but I feel really excited about how modernized that has become. The work that we have done over the past few years, new marketing leadership, building out that team. We've done all the things necessary to make sure educators know who we are and pleased with the increase in brand identity. Increase the number of educators who are engaging with us, maybe not even not even customers yet. When you think about good old-fashioned top of the funnel marketing, I would say for the first time in our 80-year history, we're doing that, and we're doing it well. We're engaging with more customers. We're partnering with like-minded companies.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

You know, our Crayola creativity assessment that we're doing, bringing creativity assessments to the classroom, engaging educators in continuing education that's fun and not just maybe some of the boring continuing education that's required, right, in their profession. They're really enjoying the engagement with us. We're meeting them where they are, and we're bringing meaningful value to those educators with the idea of, if you're an educator, you should be with The Educator Company. We have many ways to start that relationship with the educator, but it starts with them knowing who we are, engaging with us, and bringing them a solutions orientation, not just product. That when they have a product decision, they're gonna place that product with The Educator Company unless we give them a reason not to. Our agent NPS scores, our customer surveys, all the indications are up.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

We feel good that when you do really good top of the funnel marketing and you're engaging with these educators, you know, we feel good about the current momentum, and we feel good about the momentum to come. None of that changes that with we're in a competitive auto environment. We get it. We have lots of ways to engage with these educators other than auto. We feel good that when we do engage in auto, other than intentional plans in California that are working as well, when we engage in auto, we get our fair share. You know, we don't win business solely on price, so we don't lose business solely on price. Our proactive retention efforts are helping on the retention side, and we feel really good about where we are.

Wilma Burdis
Wilma Burdis
Analyst at Raymond James

It makes a lot of sense. I know you touched on this a little bit earlier, can you talk about what you're seeing in the overall annuity spread environment? Do you think it'll stabilize over the coming year? Thank you.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

Thanks for your question, Wilma. Yeah, this quarter I don't think is indicative of what we would expect for our fixed annuity spread. You know, it was a 134 in the quarter, and we're obviously targeting a number higher than that. You know, for us, the core fixed income portfolio, which is the workhorse of the portfolio, is performing quite well. This is, you know, the core book yield, I should say, is up 23 basis points year-over-year. Our new money yields were 5.38%, and that's for the core investment grade fixed income portfolio. You know, I have been impressed with the investment team's ability to continue to find attractive, you know, investments without taking excessive risk. I think we're gonna stick to our knitting.

Ryan Greenier
Ryan Greenier
EVP and CFO at Horace Mann Educators

We're going to look for, you know, slightly better LP returns. They were modestly below our expectations. They came in at 7% versus the 8% we would expect. You know, we'll watch commercial mortgage loans carefully. I don't think there's anything, I guess I would say I wouldn't expect the 1.34% to repeat, Wilma. I'd expect it to improve from here.

Wilma Burdis
Wilma Burdis
Analyst at Raymond James

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Matt Carletti from JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Matt Carletti
Matt Carletti
Analyst at JMP Securities

Marita, I might ask you to, you know, follow on kind of part of your last answer, specifically around auto, and kind of the environment we're in. Can you talk a little bit about, you know, how you guys are using the agency to kind of help manage the environment? I mean, we can see kind of the PIF numbers and the supplement and understand that those are just kind of on Horace Mann paper sort of numbers. Has the agency been more active? Have you been placing kind of more business with partners as the environment changes? Can you just help us understand how you use it as a tool?

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Yeah. Thanks, thanks for that, Matt. I mean, the Horace Mann General Agency was started with the idea that if we had an educator customer or someone who served the community and they needed coverage that we either didn't have an appetite for, think non-standard or a higher valued home, the idea is that if we didn't have the pricing sophistication and had no intention of building that, why send them down the road to an independent agent? Who, if that independent agent is good, is gonna say, "When was the last time someone looked at your life insurance needs? Can I sell you something else?" It was a very, you know, defensive strategy, if you will, and it's worked quite well. We are not seeing a large ramp up in HMGA sales because of the competitive environment.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

Our closed ratios have remained relatively consistent during this time. It is working as it, you know, is intended. You know, we've said before, we're a large agent of Progressive and have a good relationship with Progressive. They have a broad appetite and go well beyond our educators and others who serve the community. They're there for us. We have other very strong partners. We have not seen a big change in the use of HMGA. It's good. It works very well for us and allows us to keep that educator household. Maybe if those circumstances change and that customer is no longer non-standard, we can pull that auto customer back. We've seen, you know, win back, if you will, where we're bringing some of those customers back to the Horace Mann portfolio when it makes sense, when they match our appetite.

Marita Zuraitis
Marita Zuraitis
President and CEO at Horace Mann Educators

We do, you know, look at that book often to do just that. I would say pretty consistent as intended and working as a good strategic lever for customer retention, which is what it was set up to be.

Matt Carletti
Matt Carletti
Analyst at JMP Securities

Great. Thank you for the color. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. That was the last question. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Rachael Luber for any closing remarks.

Rachael Luber
Rachael Luber
VP of Investor Relations at Horace Mann Educators

We appreciate everyone joining us on the call today, and we look forward to speaking with you. Thank you. Have a great day.

Operator

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Executives
    • Marita Zuraitis
      Marita Zuraitis
      President and CEO
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      Rachael Luber
      VP of Investor Relations
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      Ryan Greenier
      EVP and CFO
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