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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Live Nation Entertainment EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.05Consensus EPS $0.66Beat/MissBeat by +$0.39One Year Ago EPS$0.41Live Nation Entertainment Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$7.67 billionExpected Revenue$7.56 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$110.47 millionYoY Revenue Growth+9.40%Live Nation Entertainment Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2026Date7/30/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, July 30, 2026Conference Call Time5:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Live Nation Entertainment Q2 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 30, 2026ShareShareShare This PageLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Live Nation reported record-level consumer demand, with fan counts up more than 10% across geographies, genres, venues and formats. Food, beverage and liquor spending are also increasing, while cancellations are running below historical averages. Positive Sentiment: Management raised its full-year outlook, expecting double-digit growth in fans, revenue and AOI, supported by strong deferred revenue and double-digit fan growth anticipated in both the U.S. and internationally during the second half. Positive Sentiment: Ticketmaster’s performance has improved, with full-year AOI growth now expected in the mid-single digits. Growth should benefit from increased venue utilization, international expansion, new venue additions and continued development of its technology and AI capabilities. Positive Sentiment: Live Nation is expanding its owned and operated venue portfolio, having completed three arena acquisitions and targeting capacity for roughly 15 million additional fans through acquisitions and new construction by 2026–2027. Management said operated venues are growing faster than third-party venues and should support margin expansion. Neutral Sentiment: International markets remain a significant long-term opportunity, particularly Japan, Brazil and broader Latin America, but venue construction investments generally take several years to reach full productivity, with some recent capital spending not expected to have a major impact until around 2028. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallLive Nation Entertainment Q2 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Joe, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Live Nation's second quarter 2026 earnings call. I would now like to turn the call over to Ms. Amy Yong. Thank you, Ms. Yong. You may begin. Amy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live Nation00:00:15Good afternoon, and welcome to the Live Nation second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining us today is our President and CEO, Michael Rapino, and our President and CFO, Joe Berchtold. We would like to remind you that this afternoon's call will contain certain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, including statements related to the company's anticipated financial performance, business prospects, new developments, and similar matters. Amy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live Nation00:00:44Please refer to Live Nation's SEC filings, including the risk factors and cautionary statements included in the company's most recent filings on forms 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K, for a description of risks and uncertainties that could impact the actual results. Live Nation will also refer to some non-GAAP measures on this call. Amy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live Nation00:01:02In accordance with the SEC Regulation G, Live Nation has provided definitions of these measures and a full reconciliation to the most comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release. The release reconciliation can be found under the financial information section on Live Nation's website. With that, we will now take your questions. Operator? Operator00:01:22Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad and then confirmation tone will indicate your line's in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please, as we pull for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Stephen Laszczyk with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:01:56Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe to kick us off, Michael, on the demand side, seems like every year brings with it some reasons to be concerned about the durability of consumer demand. I was hoping if you could maybe just update us on what you're seeing on the demand front out there for live music globally as we head into the second half of the year. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:02:16Maybe compare how the demand has been shaping up relative to some years in the past, ultimately, what you think this means for your ability to sell through the remaining concert inventory you have out there on the market. It seems like a record year on the supply side. Would love just your thoughts on how that demand meets the supply in the marketplace? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:02:40We're lucky enough, as you can see from our numbers. We've seen no consumer issues to-date, in terms of purchasing. Numbers are up across the board, whether it's international, America, clubs, amphitheater, stadiums, all genres, all venues, and all geographies right now, up over 10% in terms of fan count. We're seeing consumers buy at record levels. It'll be another record year after multiple record years. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:03:09The comps are always tough to beat, but we're seeing the continued global growth of the concert ticket. We're seeing it on site. Our food and beverage is up this year-over-year, across all of our owned and operated. They're coming to the venue and they're consuming, and we're providing better menus and better options. We're seeing no pullback there. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:03:34Liquor is up year-over-year, we're not actually seeing any of those stories about the consumer not drinking as much. They seem to look at the two-hour night out at the concert is probably the night they're not cutting back. We're not seeing any pullback. The whole blue dot, we have fewer cancellations this year than ever. We're running below historic lows at 1.1% cancellations versus 1.6 average. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:04:02Every now and then, the media blow up about a certain tour canceling, again, it's the 1%, not the 99%. We're seeing deferred record levels right now in terms of going forward. We think 2026 is going to be an absolute record year. We're going to see a strong Q3 and Q4 in terms of finishing off the great touring year we're going to have. No consumer concerns, just a kind of similar World Cup in sports, what we're seeing on that side of the equation. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:04:36That's great. Thanks for that. Maybe one for Joe. I was curious if you would be willing to unpack your expectations for the concert segment in the back half of the year, just given the timing and mix shift of the slate and how that's expected to play out for the year. It seems like revenue and fan count expected to grow quite nicely in the back half. Would just be curious to get your latest sense as well on the timing of margins and cadence of margins in 3Q and 4Q. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:05:02Sure. As you said, I think we always start most importantly looking at the full year, given quarters move around. I think we've stepped up our expectation now. We expect double-digit fan growth for the full year to drive double-digit revenue and AOI growth, and then ultimately margin expansion. Obviously none of that for the first half. If you look at the first half, international growth has been good, U.S. has been impacted by stadium availability for Q2 into the first part of Q3. For the U.S., really all the fan growth in the U.S. will be in the second half, we expect double-digit fan growth year-on-year in each of Q3 and Q4 for the U.S. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:05:49International has had a very strong first half, we expect that to continue again with double-digit growth in fan count for each of the third and fourth quarters internationally. The reason for confidence in that is that we really have our shows have been booked and confirmed. If you looked at our deferred revenue, it's at a level now that gives us confidence that really tickets are in the bank. It's a matter of playing off the shows. Finally, just given the faster growth on operated venues or fan count and operated venues relative to third-party venues, that's really the foundation of what sets us up for margin expansion. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:06:31That's helpful. Thank you both very much. Operator00:06:37The next question comes from the line of Brandon Ross with LightShed Partners. Please proceed. Brandon RossAnalyst at LightShed Partners00:06:42Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Switching gears to ticketing, it seems like things have really turned the corner there finally. How do we think about the growth algorithm from here, not just for this year, but for beyond as well? Is growth going to simply be tied to fan counts or are there other levers that maybe have a secondary play into that? Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:07:08Sure. I'll get us started. Yeah, I think we're extremely happy with the performance of Ticketmaster in the quarter and how it sets us up for the full year. Increased our expectation for AOI growth for the full year to be at mid-single digits. It certainly feels like we've turned that corner. In terms of the growth algorithm we've talked about in the past, we do think that the first piece that is a great tailwind to have in the business is the global concert growth. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:07:38While we're not adding a lot of new venues in the U.S., we're still growing Ticketmaster's fee-bearing ticket count by high single digits so far this year, heavily off of just more activity, more utilization in those arenas and stadiums. We think there's a lot of room for continued growth on that. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:07:57Then internationally, you have a double or triple benefit because you have more shows that we're putting in. You have more markets that we're able to go into. Ticketmaster is very well-positioned as we're going into Latin America and Asia markets as having the best technology out there, it's able to build its share in those markets. That helps on the concert side to give confidence that they can go to those markets and have a platform to sell the tickets and get the grosses you need for those shows to make sense. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:08:28Together, we're adding more venues, which only further expands the marketplace that Ticketmaster can participate in. All of those pieces continue, I think, to give a very good global growth story for Ticketmaster. On the secondary, we gave you the pieces. Secondary now on a global GTV basis is below teens. It's low double-digit portion. The concert piece that we've been very focused on trying to shift and get more tickets into the hands of fans on the first sale is continuing to be a lower part of our business today. It's probably 5% of our global GTV. We don't see that as anything that's going to be a major impediment to growth going forward. Brandon RossAnalyst at LightShed Partners00:09:21Okay. Then on the Spotify Reserved deal that you guys announced, I was just curious how you weighed the financial contribution from that deal versus the strategic question of potentially making them the "good guy or savior in ticketing" and potentially furthering their competitive ambitions. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:09:44I'll take that. We always look at the balance. We've done it for years. We have a much more open platform than we ever get credit for. The goal has always been, as long as we own the transaction, we'll always look for other discovery signals that can help drive ticket sales. We've done this with Facebook for years. We've done it with Snapchat. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:10:04We've done it with Groupon for years, Citi, Verizon. We always look at opportunities on, one, can we get better data, more reach for artists to sell tickets? Then two, I think I said it a year ago, the key in this one, Spotify or Amazon or Superfan, a lot of that conversation that went on was making sure that we got compensated for the asset, the presale. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:10:31We looked at this just like we look at a Verizon deal or a Citi deal. If Spotify was willing to compensate us properly for access to some presale tickets, we think it's a great win-win for both sides. It's a very small allocation on a global basis, so they're not going to be solving the on-sale problems on an Ariana Grande tour at that scale. No one can solve it. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:10:58We had a great rollout with a Role Model tour, sold a certain allocation towards their dedicated fans. We think it's a good win-win. We think they've been a great partner. We like working with them on the overall music business. I think anytime we can find new partners that can help us talk to Superfans direct, it helps us in our ongoing quest to find better ways to battle the bots. Brandon RossAnalyst at LightShed Partners00:11:30Thanks so much. Operator00:11:34The next question comes from the line of David Karnovsky with JPMorgan. Please proceed. David KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorgan00:11:40Hi. Thank you. On the amphitheaters, can you comment on expected attendance trends relative to prior years? Is it still your expectation to generate 70% of the fan growth there in Q3? Michael touched upon some of the per cap demand so far this year, but if you can give any color on the key initiatives driving that, it would be great. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:12:04Yeah. Amps are doing great this year. We've said they're up double digits in terms of the attendance through the first half. We continue to expect it, yes, to be mainly back half, 70% focused in terms of the growth for the year. The per caps, as Michael said earlier, per caps onsite spending is up. It's up across the board. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:12:32We're seeing continued uptake in liquor categories, high performing on ready to drink, the shaker cups. It's continuing to be the big night out. We've also introduced a number of new products, some things that we've built up our own brand on. Those are getting very high marks from fans in terms of the quality. We've introduced more economy, lower cost offerings on both food and beverage. Those are doing well. We're seeing across the board performance. Ticket buying premium is doing very well. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:13:07Premium is up this year. As we noted in the release, a couple of the new amphitheaters are performing very well, showing if we build quality premium product, the audience is out there. Overall, I think this is a great year for the amphitheaters. Best year we've had. David KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorgan00:13:27Okay. With some of the recent arena acquisitions you've announced, can you just update on what's completed versus what's pending, and then how we should think about when these start to fully contribute relative to any interim investment period? Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:13:43Sure. We've completed the acquisition of three arenas so far this year, the Impact Arena in Bangkok, Forum di Milano in Milan, and Movistar in Buenos Aires. We expect a few more before the end of 2027, probably four or five in that period, which is on track for adding capacity for about 15 million fans between what we're building and buying between 2026 and 2027. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:14:13In terms of the cadence, generally speaking, we'll get pretty quickly up to speed on things that we buy. If we buy something this year, next year, it should be pretty up to speed in terms of the bookings and the fan count. Sponsorship may take a bit longer depending on what deals they have in place and how long it takes for them to roll off. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:14:33For the venues that we're building, I generally think of it taking a couple of years from the year that you completed in to get fully ramped up and those performing with the full fan count and sponsorship levels. David KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorgan00:14:48Thanks. Operator00:14:52The next question comes from the line of Cameron Mansson-Perrone with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed. Cameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:15:00Thanks. Afternoon. Two follow-ups on Ticketmaster. First, a growing proportion of the ticket wins seem to be coming from international. You touched on it earlier, but I'm curious, is that growth being driven by just the growth in touring globally, or is it more of an intentional focus kind of operationally at Ticketmaster, reflecting maybe what you see as more attractive market dynamics internationally? Then I have one other one. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:15:30Yeah. As I said, I think it's a couple things going on. First, as we enter new markets, we are finding that our platform is extremely attractive and quickly gets established as best in class. As we're now in six Latin America markets, six Asia-Pacific markets, and we're finding it to be an attractive area to be able to go and get new customers. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:15:55Second is that the venues are being added in those markets, so that's naturally a place for us to be adding new customers. Across globally, international is benefiting along with the U.S. in terms of just more concert activity going on globally. Yeah, we've talked about international. I think we're truly delivering international now. You can see that in the numbers on every segment through the first half. We think, again, the runway is tremendous for many years on all of these pieces. Cameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:16:30Yeah, that's coming through. On Spotify Reserved, I wanted to follow up. Any color on how you expect that partnership to grow over time or potential for it to scale from kind of the starting point. Michael, you touched on kind of the desire to be good stewards of tickets and how this facilitates that. What other avenues exist for you to help kind of drive towards that aim? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:17:02Listen, our goal is we've got an incredible global platform at TM. Time and time again, we can show clients and artists that we're the best probably placed as a first stop for someone to look for a concert ticket or a sports ticket. Everyone has partners, and we always want to make sure that we're reaching as many avenues as we can for new distribution. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:17:27We don't look at Spotify as a ticketing competitor, just as we don't look at Verizon as a ticketing competitor. Not saying they can't enter that space, in this kind of deal, this is a traditional deal where someone has paid us for some of our inventory, and we've weighed those pros and cons of, is a presale and monetizing the presale a good strategic move for our business? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:17:54When we can get a partner that we think has good reach, like a Verizon, a Citi, or a Spotify, and get monetized for it's a win-win. That's the way we look at it. The scale on their side is no different than we look at will Verizon scale their presale program? The answer is yes, if they want to pay us a lot more. That's the way we look at it. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:18:17That we have this incredible asset we buy called the ticket. Our job is to sell every one of them. We look at sponsors as a great distribution partner to accomplish that goal. Maybe not on the ones that sell out in three seconds, but as we know, 90% of shows don't sell out. We're always looking for help in distribution and new consumers to help us on those 90% of shows that don't sell. Cameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:18:46Makes sense. Thanks. Operator00:18:51The next question comes from the line of Peter Supino with Wolfe Research. Please proceed. Peter SupinoAnalyst at Wolfe Research00:18:59Hi. Following up on Joe's comments on Venue Nation and the journey from opening to full revenue productivity. I wondered about the path from breaking ground to generating revenue. Should the increase in CapEx from $600 million or so in 2024 to $1 billion in 2025, should that have the most impact in the summer of 2027, or is that more of a 2028 event in terms of shifting from construction to sales? A question for Michael on Japan. I wondered if you'd discuss the growth opportunity there. Do you think about, say, on a five-year horizon, that opportunity is being measured in the tens of millions or the hundreds of millions of AOI? Thank you. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:19:49Yeah. Just in terms of timing, I think that a build for an arena or large theater is generally two to three years. As I said, it's probably between about two years after you complete the building. When we're talking about the increases in 2024-2025, obviously a chunk of that we have been spending, some of those venues will get completed. Others aren't going to get completed until 2026-2027. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:20:21I think it's probably 2028 before we really start seeing the impact of that increase in CapEx. What we focused on along the way to continue to deliver growth is why we're also augmenting it with some acquisitions. As I just said, we've acquired three arenas. That'll provide more of the growth catalyst in 2027. We're using that to move forward more quickly. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:20:49As far as Japan, it's one of the great pop markets in the world. It's a $1+ billion live business. We have a very small market share today. We think over time, we can grow our market share and capture a good percentage of that global business that is in there. 90% of business is local Japanese business. Critical, we finally found the right partner. With our global tours as well as building our local business venues, ticketing, all of the pieces we bring to the table, we think it's a very good business over the next five years. Operator00:21:38The next question comes from the line of Batya Levi with UBS. Please proceed. Batya LeviAnalyst at UBS00:21:44Great. Thank you. On the ticketing side, can you generally talk about where we are in terms of some of the new investments you've been making on the platform, use of AI, and the progress you've been making towards unsold tickets? Just a quick follow-up on the Spotify sponsorship. Did that kick in at the end of May, or is it a 3Q event? Thank you. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:22:08Sure. First on TM, I think we've been extremely happy with the progress we've been making under Samir over the past nine months or so under his leadership. I think he has continued to make a lot of strides in terms of the platform and now has a clear roadmap for how we're going to continue to improve the product, both online as well as with the mobile app. AI, broad term, gets integrated into it in a lot of ways. We're obviously working with AI platforms because we think it's a great opportunity to unlock more long-tail discovery of what TM has when people are looking for events. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:22:52At the same time, we're using AI to help power our coding and development at Ticketmaster, and then we're also looking to integrate it more in the direct fan experience when they're on-site or in the app to continue to have discovery. I think that selling unsold tickets will be a ongoing proposition, helping fans discover the shows, helping make sure we have the right information on how to price the tickets, how to market the tickets, what promotions make sense. That'll be an ongoing effort. I think we continue to make good progress in terms of how we use the data and lay the opportunities out in front of the fan, and that's in part being borne out by continued very strong ticket sales. That'll continue over the next while. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:23:41We launched Spotify in May with Role Model as their first Reserved. Batya LeviAnalyst at UBS00:23:51Got it. Thank you. Operator00:23:56The next question comes from the line of Peter Henderson with Bank of America. Please proceed. Peter HendersonAnalyst at Bank of America00:24:01Great. Good afternoon, and thank you for taking the question. As artist conversations and venue bookings for 2027 develop, how does the early touring pipeline compare with 2026 across stadiums, arenas, and amps? Also, how should we think about the key growth levers, additional supply, international, new venue capacity for next year? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:24:27Well, on the key growth, I assume you've been to our investor day. We've been pretty consistent year-after-year on how we're going to grow this global business. There's a global platform out there, lots of untapped markets for us, and we're going to keep expanding and building our business on a global basis. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:24:43That alone will drive our show count, which ultimately drives all of the other pieces. 2027 looks like a strong year. We already have a big percentage of our bookings in for next year. We see another strong global year of both stadiums, arenas, and amphitheaters. Still early, but very encouraging from what we see booked in the calendar so far. Peter HendersonAnalyst at Bank of America00:25:11Thank you. Operator00:25:17The next question comes from the line of Robert Fishman with MoffettNathanson. Please proceed. Robert FishmanAnalyst at MoffettNathanson00:25:24Hi, good afternoon. Two questions, please. As you think about all of the success you've seen in Latin America, can you just help us think about or how you characterize the growth from here? Maybe what inning you think you're in and what the key markets to drive that growth even higher. Then maybe just a follow-up on Venue Nation. As you think about the ramp and the updated CapEx guide for full year 2026, any early way to think about or update for 2027 now that you've given us the pipeline on the larger venues? Thank you. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:25:59In Latin America, we're still in early innings. We're very underdeveloped in Brazil, which is kind of like Japan, the big market. The other markets, we announced this morning, an arena in São Paulo, Brazil. We've announced a couple of other arenas in the Latin market, those are still far from being operated. We're in the second inning of the nine-inning game on a multi-billion dollar business in Latin America. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:26:34In terms of the CapEx next year, obviously, we're still early stages of the planning process, can't get too specific. I think what you can see is this is a largely organic, incremental effort. We're just up a bit more this year than we were last year. It'll be framed by the opportunities for next year, and it's a little bit lumpy based on the timing of the builds. It'll be incremental to what we have now. We're not doubling, tripling, we're not leaping. I think we're continuing to be very focused on finding the right projects that are going to deliver the returns we're looking for and turning down a lot of projects that don't. That'll continue to be our MO. Robert FishmanAnalyst at MoffettNathanson00:27:19Great. Thank you both. Operator00:27:23The next question comes from the line of Steven Cahall with Wells Fargo & Company. Please proceed. Steven CahallAnalyst at Wells Fargo & Company00:27:30Thank you. A couple on Venue Nation. Just first, as investors, I think, look to understand the investments a little better. The guidance is for Venue Nation fans to grow faster than third-party. Is that just because there's more third-party venues, or is there something structurally superior about the Venue Nation portfolio where you would expect the growth rate longer term to be higher there than it is for the mix of third-party assets? Steven CahallAnalyst at Wells Fargo & Company00:27:58Then relatedly, with the 15 million fans run rate you're looking to add by the end of next year, I think that would imply, unless the venues come online very late in the year, that you'll have another double-digit year for fan growth in 2027. I was wondering if that's something you'd be willing to comment on at this point. Thank you. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:28:17Yeah. In terms of the fan growth this year, first of all, there's way more third-party venues than there are Live Nation-operated venues. We run the small minority of venues. The growth is because we operate them. We've got a lot of effort put into continuing to build the show count. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:28:37At the same time, we're adding some new venues. We have the double benefit of both focus on filling the buildings we have and adding new buildings. Whereas with third-party, you're focused on incremental show count. You have more pieces that you're working with on your operated. I think it's premature to talk specifically about next year and how that 15 million run rate flows in. Operator00:29:08Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to hand the call back over to Michael Rapino for closing remarks. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:29:18Thank you, everyone. Have a great summer. Hope to see you all at a show. Talk to you soon. Operator00:29:25Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and enjoy the rest of your day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesMichael RapinoPresident and CEOJoe BerchtoldPresident and CFOAnalystsAmy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live NationStephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman SachsBrandon RossAnalyst at LightShed PartnersDavid KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorganCameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan StanleyPeter SupinoAnalyst at Wolfe ResearchBatya LeviAnalyst at UBSPeter HendersonAnalyst at Bank of AmericaRobert FishmanAnalyst at MoffettNathansonSteven CahallAnalyst at Wells Fargo & CompanyPowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Live Nation Entertainment Earnings HeadlinesLive Nation Drew 49 Million Fans Last Quarter. 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Email Address About Live Nation EntertainmentLive Nation Entertainment (NYSE:LYV) is a global live entertainment company that promotes, operates and sells tickets for live events. The company’s core activities include concert promotion and production, venue operations and management, ticketing services through its Ticketmaster platform, artist management and development, and sponsorship and advertising services tied to live events. These integrated businesses are designed to connect artists, fans and commercial partners across the live event ecosystem. The company in its current form was created following the 2010 merger of Live Nation and Ticketmaster, combining a promoter and venue operator with one of the industry’s largest ticketing platforms. Live Nation organizes and promotes tours and festivals, manages a network of owned or operated venues, and provides ticketing and event-distribution technology through Ticketmaster. It also offers artist services such as talent management and routing, along with marketing and sponsorship solutions that leverage its live-event inventory and audience data. Live Nation serves a global audience, with operations spanning North America, Europe, Latin America, Asia-Pacific and other regions where it promotes shows, manages venues and sells tickets. The company is headquartered in Beverly Hills, California, and its senior leadership has been led by Michael Rapino, who has served as President and Chief Executive Officer. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Joe, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Live Nation's second quarter 2026 earnings call. I would now like to turn the call over to Ms. Amy Yong. Thank you, Ms. Yong. You may begin. Amy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live Nation00:00:15Good afternoon, and welcome to the Live Nation second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining us today is our President and CEO, Michael Rapino, and our President and CFO, Joe Berchtold. We would like to remind you that this afternoon's call will contain certain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, including statements related to the company's anticipated financial performance, business prospects, new developments, and similar matters. Amy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live Nation00:00:44Please refer to Live Nation's SEC filings, including the risk factors and cautionary statements included in the company's most recent filings on forms 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K, for a description of risks and uncertainties that could impact the actual results. Live Nation will also refer to some non-GAAP measures on this call. Amy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live Nation00:01:02In accordance with the SEC Regulation G, Live Nation has provided definitions of these measures and a full reconciliation to the most comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release. The release reconciliation can be found under the financial information section on Live Nation's website. With that, we will now take your questions. Operator? Operator00:01:22Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad and then confirmation tone will indicate your line's in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please, as we pull for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Stephen Laszczyk with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:01:56Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe to kick us off, Michael, on the demand side, seems like every year brings with it some reasons to be concerned about the durability of consumer demand. I was hoping if you could maybe just update us on what you're seeing on the demand front out there for live music globally as we head into the second half of the year. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:02:16Maybe compare how the demand has been shaping up relative to some years in the past, ultimately, what you think this means for your ability to sell through the remaining concert inventory you have out there on the market. It seems like a record year on the supply side. Would love just your thoughts on how that demand meets the supply in the marketplace? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:02:40We're lucky enough, as you can see from our numbers. We've seen no consumer issues to-date, in terms of purchasing. Numbers are up across the board, whether it's international, America, clubs, amphitheater, stadiums, all genres, all venues, and all geographies right now, up over 10% in terms of fan count. We're seeing consumers buy at record levels. It'll be another record year after multiple record years. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:03:09The comps are always tough to beat, but we're seeing the continued global growth of the concert ticket. We're seeing it on site. Our food and beverage is up this year-over-year, across all of our owned and operated. They're coming to the venue and they're consuming, and we're providing better menus and better options. We're seeing no pullback there. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:03:34Liquor is up year-over-year, we're not actually seeing any of those stories about the consumer not drinking as much. They seem to look at the two-hour night out at the concert is probably the night they're not cutting back. We're not seeing any pullback. The whole blue dot, we have fewer cancellations this year than ever. We're running below historic lows at 1.1% cancellations versus 1.6 average. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:04:02Every now and then, the media blow up about a certain tour canceling, again, it's the 1%, not the 99%. We're seeing deferred record levels right now in terms of going forward. We think 2026 is going to be an absolute record year. We're going to see a strong Q3 and Q4 in terms of finishing off the great touring year we're going to have. No consumer concerns, just a kind of similar World Cup in sports, what we're seeing on that side of the equation. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:04:36That's great. Thanks for that. Maybe one for Joe. I was curious if you would be willing to unpack your expectations for the concert segment in the back half of the year, just given the timing and mix shift of the slate and how that's expected to play out for the year. It seems like revenue and fan count expected to grow quite nicely in the back half. Would just be curious to get your latest sense as well on the timing of margins and cadence of margins in 3Q and 4Q. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:05:02Sure. As you said, I think we always start most importantly looking at the full year, given quarters move around. I think we've stepped up our expectation now. We expect double-digit fan growth for the full year to drive double-digit revenue and AOI growth, and then ultimately margin expansion. Obviously none of that for the first half. If you look at the first half, international growth has been good, U.S. has been impacted by stadium availability for Q2 into the first part of Q3. For the U.S., really all the fan growth in the U.S. will be in the second half, we expect double-digit fan growth year-on-year in each of Q3 and Q4 for the U.S. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:05:49International has had a very strong first half, we expect that to continue again with double-digit growth in fan count for each of the third and fourth quarters internationally. The reason for confidence in that is that we really have our shows have been booked and confirmed. If you looked at our deferred revenue, it's at a level now that gives us confidence that really tickets are in the bank. It's a matter of playing off the shows. Finally, just given the faster growth on operated venues or fan count and operated venues relative to third-party venues, that's really the foundation of what sets us up for margin expansion. Stephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:06:31That's helpful. Thank you both very much. Operator00:06:37The next question comes from the line of Brandon Ross with LightShed Partners. Please proceed. Brandon RossAnalyst at LightShed Partners00:06:42Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Switching gears to ticketing, it seems like things have really turned the corner there finally. How do we think about the growth algorithm from here, not just for this year, but for beyond as well? Is growth going to simply be tied to fan counts or are there other levers that maybe have a secondary play into that? Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:07:08Sure. I'll get us started. Yeah, I think we're extremely happy with the performance of Ticketmaster in the quarter and how it sets us up for the full year. Increased our expectation for AOI growth for the full year to be at mid-single digits. It certainly feels like we've turned that corner. In terms of the growth algorithm we've talked about in the past, we do think that the first piece that is a great tailwind to have in the business is the global concert growth. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:07:38While we're not adding a lot of new venues in the U.S., we're still growing Ticketmaster's fee-bearing ticket count by high single digits so far this year, heavily off of just more activity, more utilization in those arenas and stadiums. We think there's a lot of room for continued growth on that. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:07:57Then internationally, you have a double or triple benefit because you have more shows that we're putting in. You have more markets that we're able to go into. Ticketmaster is very well-positioned as we're going into Latin America and Asia markets as having the best technology out there, it's able to build its share in those markets. That helps on the concert side to give confidence that they can go to those markets and have a platform to sell the tickets and get the grosses you need for those shows to make sense. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:08:28Together, we're adding more venues, which only further expands the marketplace that Ticketmaster can participate in. All of those pieces continue, I think, to give a very good global growth story for Ticketmaster. On the secondary, we gave you the pieces. Secondary now on a global GTV basis is below teens. It's low double-digit portion. The concert piece that we've been very focused on trying to shift and get more tickets into the hands of fans on the first sale is continuing to be a lower part of our business today. It's probably 5% of our global GTV. We don't see that as anything that's going to be a major impediment to growth going forward. Brandon RossAnalyst at LightShed Partners00:09:21Okay. Then on the Spotify Reserved deal that you guys announced, I was just curious how you weighed the financial contribution from that deal versus the strategic question of potentially making them the "good guy or savior in ticketing" and potentially furthering their competitive ambitions. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:09:44I'll take that. We always look at the balance. We've done it for years. We have a much more open platform than we ever get credit for. The goal has always been, as long as we own the transaction, we'll always look for other discovery signals that can help drive ticket sales. We've done this with Facebook for years. We've done it with Snapchat. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:10:04We've done it with Groupon for years, Citi, Verizon. We always look at opportunities on, one, can we get better data, more reach for artists to sell tickets? Then two, I think I said it a year ago, the key in this one, Spotify or Amazon or Superfan, a lot of that conversation that went on was making sure that we got compensated for the asset, the presale. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:10:31We looked at this just like we look at a Verizon deal or a Citi deal. If Spotify was willing to compensate us properly for access to some presale tickets, we think it's a great win-win for both sides. It's a very small allocation on a global basis, so they're not going to be solving the on-sale problems on an Ariana Grande tour at that scale. No one can solve it. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:10:58We had a great rollout with a Role Model tour, sold a certain allocation towards their dedicated fans. We think it's a good win-win. We think they've been a great partner. We like working with them on the overall music business. I think anytime we can find new partners that can help us talk to Superfans direct, it helps us in our ongoing quest to find better ways to battle the bots. Brandon RossAnalyst at LightShed Partners00:11:30Thanks so much. Operator00:11:34The next question comes from the line of David Karnovsky with JPMorgan. Please proceed. David KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorgan00:11:40Hi. Thank you. On the amphitheaters, can you comment on expected attendance trends relative to prior years? Is it still your expectation to generate 70% of the fan growth there in Q3? Michael touched upon some of the per cap demand so far this year, but if you can give any color on the key initiatives driving that, it would be great. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:12:04Yeah. Amps are doing great this year. We've said they're up double digits in terms of the attendance through the first half. We continue to expect it, yes, to be mainly back half, 70% focused in terms of the growth for the year. The per caps, as Michael said earlier, per caps onsite spending is up. It's up across the board. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:12:32We're seeing continued uptake in liquor categories, high performing on ready to drink, the shaker cups. It's continuing to be the big night out. We've also introduced a number of new products, some things that we've built up our own brand on. Those are getting very high marks from fans in terms of the quality. We've introduced more economy, lower cost offerings on both food and beverage. Those are doing well. We're seeing across the board performance. Ticket buying premium is doing very well. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:13:07Premium is up this year. As we noted in the release, a couple of the new amphitheaters are performing very well, showing if we build quality premium product, the audience is out there. Overall, I think this is a great year for the amphitheaters. Best year we've had. David KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorgan00:13:27Okay. With some of the recent arena acquisitions you've announced, can you just update on what's completed versus what's pending, and then how we should think about when these start to fully contribute relative to any interim investment period? Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:13:43Sure. We've completed the acquisition of three arenas so far this year, the Impact Arena in Bangkok, Forum di Milano in Milan, and Movistar in Buenos Aires. We expect a few more before the end of 2027, probably four or five in that period, which is on track for adding capacity for about 15 million fans between what we're building and buying between 2026 and 2027. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:14:13In terms of the cadence, generally speaking, we'll get pretty quickly up to speed on things that we buy. If we buy something this year, next year, it should be pretty up to speed in terms of the bookings and the fan count. Sponsorship may take a bit longer depending on what deals they have in place and how long it takes for them to roll off. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:14:33For the venues that we're building, I generally think of it taking a couple of years from the year that you completed in to get fully ramped up and those performing with the full fan count and sponsorship levels. David KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorgan00:14:48Thanks. Operator00:14:52The next question comes from the line of Cameron Mansson-Perrone with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed. Cameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:15:00Thanks. Afternoon. Two follow-ups on Ticketmaster. First, a growing proportion of the ticket wins seem to be coming from international. You touched on it earlier, but I'm curious, is that growth being driven by just the growth in touring globally, or is it more of an intentional focus kind of operationally at Ticketmaster, reflecting maybe what you see as more attractive market dynamics internationally? Then I have one other one. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:15:30Yeah. As I said, I think it's a couple things going on. First, as we enter new markets, we are finding that our platform is extremely attractive and quickly gets established as best in class. As we're now in six Latin America markets, six Asia-Pacific markets, and we're finding it to be an attractive area to be able to go and get new customers. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:15:55Second is that the venues are being added in those markets, so that's naturally a place for us to be adding new customers. Across globally, international is benefiting along with the U.S. in terms of just more concert activity going on globally. Yeah, we've talked about international. I think we're truly delivering international now. You can see that in the numbers on every segment through the first half. We think, again, the runway is tremendous for many years on all of these pieces. Cameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:16:30Yeah, that's coming through. On Spotify Reserved, I wanted to follow up. Any color on how you expect that partnership to grow over time or potential for it to scale from kind of the starting point. Michael, you touched on kind of the desire to be good stewards of tickets and how this facilitates that. What other avenues exist for you to help kind of drive towards that aim? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:17:02Listen, our goal is we've got an incredible global platform at TM. Time and time again, we can show clients and artists that we're the best probably placed as a first stop for someone to look for a concert ticket or a sports ticket. Everyone has partners, and we always want to make sure that we're reaching as many avenues as we can for new distribution. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:17:27We don't look at Spotify as a ticketing competitor, just as we don't look at Verizon as a ticketing competitor. Not saying they can't enter that space, in this kind of deal, this is a traditional deal where someone has paid us for some of our inventory, and we've weighed those pros and cons of, is a presale and monetizing the presale a good strategic move for our business? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:17:54When we can get a partner that we think has good reach, like a Verizon, a Citi, or a Spotify, and get monetized for it's a win-win. That's the way we look at it. The scale on their side is no different than we look at will Verizon scale their presale program? The answer is yes, if they want to pay us a lot more. That's the way we look at it. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:18:17That we have this incredible asset we buy called the ticket. Our job is to sell every one of them. We look at sponsors as a great distribution partner to accomplish that goal. Maybe not on the ones that sell out in three seconds, but as we know, 90% of shows don't sell out. We're always looking for help in distribution and new consumers to help us on those 90% of shows that don't sell. Cameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan Stanley00:18:46Makes sense. Thanks. Operator00:18:51The next question comes from the line of Peter Supino with Wolfe Research. Please proceed. Peter SupinoAnalyst at Wolfe Research00:18:59Hi. Following up on Joe's comments on Venue Nation and the journey from opening to full revenue productivity. I wondered about the path from breaking ground to generating revenue. Should the increase in CapEx from $600 million or so in 2024 to $1 billion in 2025, should that have the most impact in the summer of 2027, or is that more of a 2028 event in terms of shifting from construction to sales? A question for Michael on Japan. I wondered if you'd discuss the growth opportunity there. Do you think about, say, on a five-year horizon, that opportunity is being measured in the tens of millions or the hundreds of millions of AOI? Thank you. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:19:49Yeah. Just in terms of timing, I think that a build for an arena or large theater is generally two to three years. As I said, it's probably between about two years after you complete the building. When we're talking about the increases in 2024-2025, obviously a chunk of that we have been spending, some of those venues will get completed. Others aren't going to get completed until 2026-2027. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:20:21I think it's probably 2028 before we really start seeing the impact of that increase in CapEx. What we focused on along the way to continue to deliver growth is why we're also augmenting it with some acquisitions. As I just said, we've acquired three arenas. That'll provide more of the growth catalyst in 2027. We're using that to move forward more quickly. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:20:49As far as Japan, it's one of the great pop markets in the world. It's a $1+ billion live business. We have a very small market share today. We think over time, we can grow our market share and capture a good percentage of that global business that is in there. 90% of business is local Japanese business. Critical, we finally found the right partner. With our global tours as well as building our local business venues, ticketing, all of the pieces we bring to the table, we think it's a very good business over the next five years. Operator00:21:38The next question comes from the line of Batya Levi with UBS. Please proceed. Batya LeviAnalyst at UBS00:21:44Great. Thank you. On the ticketing side, can you generally talk about where we are in terms of some of the new investments you've been making on the platform, use of AI, and the progress you've been making towards unsold tickets? Just a quick follow-up on the Spotify sponsorship. Did that kick in at the end of May, or is it a 3Q event? Thank you. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:22:08Sure. First on TM, I think we've been extremely happy with the progress we've been making under Samir over the past nine months or so under his leadership. I think he has continued to make a lot of strides in terms of the platform and now has a clear roadmap for how we're going to continue to improve the product, both online as well as with the mobile app. AI, broad term, gets integrated into it in a lot of ways. We're obviously working with AI platforms because we think it's a great opportunity to unlock more long-tail discovery of what TM has when people are looking for events. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:22:52At the same time, we're using AI to help power our coding and development at Ticketmaster, and then we're also looking to integrate it more in the direct fan experience when they're on-site or in the app to continue to have discovery. I think that selling unsold tickets will be a ongoing proposition, helping fans discover the shows, helping make sure we have the right information on how to price the tickets, how to market the tickets, what promotions make sense. That'll be an ongoing effort. I think we continue to make good progress in terms of how we use the data and lay the opportunities out in front of the fan, and that's in part being borne out by continued very strong ticket sales. That'll continue over the next while. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:23:41We launched Spotify in May with Role Model as their first Reserved. Batya LeviAnalyst at UBS00:23:51Got it. Thank you. Operator00:23:56The next question comes from the line of Peter Henderson with Bank of America. Please proceed. Peter HendersonAnalyst at Bank of America00:24:01Great. Good afternoon, and thank you for taking the question. As artist conversations and venue bookings for 2027 develop, how does the early touring pipeline compare with 2026 across stadiums, arenas, and amps? Also, how should we think about the key growth levers, additional supply, international, new venue capacity for next year? Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:24:27Well, on the key growth, I assume you've been to our investor day. We've been pretty consistent year-after-year on how we're going to grow this global business. There's a global platform out there, lots of untapped markets for us, and we're going to keep expanding and building our business on a global basis. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:24:43That alone will drive our show count, which ultimately drives all of the other pieces. 2027 looks like a strong year. We already have a big percentage of our bookings in for next year. We see another strong global year of both stadiums, arenas, and amphitheaters. Still early, but very encouraging from what we see booked in the calendar so far. Peter HendersonAnalyst at Bank of America00:25:11Thank you. Operator00:25:17The next question comes from the line of Robert Fishman with MoffettNathanson. Please proceed. Robert FishmanAnalyst at MoffettNathanson00:25:24Hi, good afternoon. Two questions, please. As you think about all of the success you've seen in Latin America, can you just help us think about or how you characterize the growth from here? Maybe what inning you think you're in and what the key markets to drive that growth even higher. Then maybe just a follow-up on Venue Nation. As you think about the ramp and the updated CapEx guide for full year 2026, any early way to think about or update for 2027 now that you've given us the pipeline on the larger venues? Thank you. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:25:59In Latin America, we're still in early innings. We're very underdeveloped in Brazil, which is kind of like Japan, the big market. The other markets, we announced this morning, an arena in São Paulo, Brazil. We've announced a couple of other arenas in the Latin market, those are still far from being operated. We're in the second inning of the nine-inning game on a multi-billion dollar business in Latin America. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:26:34In terms of the CapEx next year, obviously, we're still early stages of the planning process, can't get too specific. I think what you can see is this is a largely organic, incremental effort. We're just up a bit more this year than we were last year. It'll be framed by the opportunities for next year, and it's a little bit lumpy based on the timing of the builds. It'll be incremental to what we have now. We're not doubling, tripling, we're not leaping. I think we're continuing to be very focused on finding the right projects that are going to deliver the returns we're looking for and turning down a lot of projects that don't. That'll continue to be our MO. Robert FishmanAnalyst at MoffettNathanson00:27:19Great. Thank you both. Operator00:27:23The next question comes from the line of Steven Cahall with Wells Fargo & Company. Please proceed. Steven CahallAnalyst at Wells Fargo & Company00:27:30Thank you. A couple on Venue Nation. Just first, as investors, I think, look to understand the investments a little better. The guidance is for Venue Nation fans to grow faster than third-party. Is that just because there's more third-party venues, or is there something structurally superior about the Venue Nation portfolio where you would expect the growth rate longer term to be higher there than it is for the mix of third-party assets? Steven CahallAnalyst at Wells Fargo & Company00:27:58Then relatedly, with the 15 million fans run rate you're looking to add by the end of next year, I think that would imply, unless the venues come online very late in the year, that you'll have another double-digit year for fan growth in 2027. I was wondering if that's something you'd be willing to comment on at this point. Thank you. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:28:17Yeah. In terms of the fan growth this year, first of all, there's way more third-party venues than there are Live Nation-operated venues. We run the small minority of venues. The growth is because we operate them. We've got a lot of effort put into continuing to build the show count. Joe BerchtoldPresident and CFO at Live Nation00:28:37At the same time, we're adding some new venues. We have the double benefit of both focus on filling the buildings we have and adding new buildings. Whereas with third-party, you're focused on incremental show count. You have more pieces that you're working with on your operated. I think it's premature to talk specifically about next year and how that 15 million run rate flows in. Operator00:29:08Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to hand the call back over to Michael Rapino for closing remarks. Michael RapinoPresident and CEO at Live Nation00:29:18Thank you, everyone. Have a great summer. Hope to see you all at a show. Talk to you soon. Operator00:29:25Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and enjoy the rest of your day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesMichael RapinoPresident and CEOJoe BerchtoldPresident and CFOAnalystsAmy YongSVP of Investor Relations at Live NationStephen LaszczykAnalyst at Goldman SachsBrandon RossAnalyst at LightShed PartnersDavid KarnovskyAnalyst at JPMorganCameron Mansson-PerroneAnalyst at Morgan StanleyPeter SupinoAnalyst at Wolfe ResearchBatya LeviAnalyst at UBSPeter HendersonAnalyst at Bank of AmericaRobert FishmanAnalyst at MoffettNathansonSteven CahallAnalyst at Wells Fargo & CompanyPowered by