NYSE:HRTG Heritage Insurance Q2 2026 Earnings Report $33.20 -0.07 (-0.20%) As of 02:40 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Heritage Insurance EPS ResultsActual EPS$2.05Consensus EPS $1.25Beat/MissBeat by +$0.80One Year Ago EPSN/AHeritage Insurance Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$214.20 millionExpected Revenue$212.71 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.49 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AHeritage Insurance Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2026Date8/5/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 6, 2026Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsHeritage Insurance's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, November 4, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, November 5, 2026 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Heritage Insurance Q2 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 6, 2026ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Record profitability: Second-quarter net income rose to $61.7 million, or $2.05 per diluted share, while the combined ratio improved to 64.9% and annualized ROE reached 45.4%. Positive Sentiment: Heritage secured more than $2.2 billion of catastrophe reinsurance limit for 2026–2027, while reducing annualized reinsurance costs by approximately $63 million. Management expects the lower costs to support Florida rate reductions of roughly 3%–5%. Negative Sentiment: Premiums in force declined 1.4% year over year, with gross written premiums down 5.5%, primarily because of intense pricing competition in Florida commercial residential insurance. Management continues to walk away from inadequately priced accounts, although it sees signs that conditions are leveling off. Positive Sentiment: Personal residential premiums in force increased 1.2%, policy-count declines are moderating, and reopened territories are showing stronger production and healthy retention. Management expects a return to policy-count growth in coming quarters, despite a temporary Guidewire-related slowdown. Positive Sentiment: Strong cash generation and capital growth are supporting both expansion and shareholder returns; Heritage repurchased more than one million shares for $24.6 million year to date and retains $37.4 million of authorization. The company also began writing policies in Texas through its excess and surplus platform, though contributions will be modest initially. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallHeritage Insurance Q2 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Heritage Insurance Holdings Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Please note today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kirk Lusk, Chief Financial Officer for the company. Sir, please go ahead. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:00:18Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. We invite you to visit the investors section of our website, investors.heritagepci.com, where the earnings release and our earnings call will be archived. These materials are available for replay or review at your convenience. Today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based upon management's current expectations and subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. In our earnings press release and our SEC filings, we detail material risks that may cause our future results to differ from our expectations. Our statements are as of today, and we have no obligation to update any forward-looking statements we may make. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:01:02For a description of the forward-looking statements and the risks that could cause our results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K earnings release and other SEC filings. Our comments today will also include non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliations of, and other information regarding these measures can be found in our press release. With me on the call today is Ernie Garateix, our Chief Executive Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Ernie. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:01:35Thanks, Kirk, and good morning, everyone. Before discussing our second quarter results, I want to step back and frame where Heritage stands today and how meaningfully the business has evolved over the last several years. When we began executing our strategic initiatives, our objectives were clear: improve profitability, achieve rate adequacy, strengthen the balance sheet, reduce volatility, and position Heritage for sustainable long-term growth. Delivering on those objectives required difficult but necessary decisions. We re-underwrote portions of the portfolio, reduced exposure where returns did not justify the risk, implemented meaningful rate actions, strengthened our reserving position, and continued investing in technology and operating infrastructure. The results of those efforts are increasingly visible in our financial performance. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:02:36In the second quarter, Heritage generated record net income of $61.7 million, record diluted earnings per share of $2.05, an annualized return on equity in excess of 45%, and substantial operating cash flow of $166.5 million. Importantly, these results were achieved while maintaining the underwriting discipline that has guided our strategy. We continue to believe long-term shareholder value is created through profitable underwriting and disciplined capital allocation, not by pursuing premium growth at any cost. We also believe the market continues to underappreciate the extent of our geographic diversification and the reduction in earnings volatility that has resulted from that diversification. Heritage has historically been viewed primarily as a Florida-focused property insurer. While Florida remains an important market for us, Heritage today operates as a super-regional insurance platform with business spread across multiple geographies, products, and distribution channels. That diversification improves both the quality and durability of our earnings. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:04:02It gives us the flexibility to allocate capital towards markets and products where we see the strongest risk-adjusted returns while reducing exposure in areas where competition is excessive or pricing does not support acceptable margins. As market conditions evolve, we can shift our focus and capital towards opportunities that we believe will create the best long-term returns for shareholders while maintaining compliance with insurance regulatory requirements. We are seeing that flexibility play out today. While commercial residential pricing in portions of Florida has become highly competitive, we continue to see attractive opportunities across many of the personal residential markets throughout our footprint. This flexibility is important because it allows us to remain disciplined. We do not need to chase underpriced business or force growth in any single geography. Instead, we can allocate capital where underwriting conditions are most favorable and where we believe we can generate attractive long-term returns. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:05:12As a result, Heritage's earning profile today is significantly more durable and resilient than it was just a few years ago. Over the last several years, policy count declines were largely the result of deliberate actions taken to improve profitability, achieve rate adequacy, and reposition the portfolio. Those actions have been successful, and we believe the vast majority of that work is now behind us. Today, nearly all of our territories are open for new business, our agency relationships remain strong, and production trends continue moving in the right direction. Most importantly, the pace of policy count decline continues to moderate. As a result, we believe our personal residential business is approaching an important inflection point. New business production continues to strengthen, retention remains healthy, and we are seeing encouraging trends across a number of our reopened territories. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:06:15As those territories mature and production continues to build, we believe the foundation is in place for a return to policy count growth. Our transition back to growth has been temporarily slowed by the rollout of Guidewire, as the implementation creates a short-term learning curve for agents and can result in several months of slower production. Importantly, we have consistently seen activity improve meaningfully once agents become familiar with the platform. Agent feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. Agents consistently tell us that Guidewire is easier to use, more automated, and significantly more efficient than our legacy system. As implementation progresses across our footprint and the temporary transition effects begin to fade, we believe production will continue to improve, positioning us for a return to policy count growth in the coming quarters. Equally important is what we're hearing directly from our agent partners. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:07:17Across reopened territories, agents continue to express a desire to place more business with Heritage. We worked hard to maintain these relationships during the years in which we prioritized profitability and portfolio repositioning. We communicated transparently about our strategy, the reasons behind our decisions, and our long-term intentions. As a result, agents have welcomed us back into markets where production was previously restricted and are actively looking to grow with us. We also wrote our first policy in Texas through our excess and surplus lines platform. While the initial contribution will be modest, Texas represents another attractive market where we can leverage our underwriting expertise and agency relationships. We view Texas as another step in the continued diversification of our business and another opportunity to allocate capital towards attractive long-term growth. We are also evaluating additional opportunities across both personal and commercial lines. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:08:21Every opportunity must meet the same underwriting, profitability, and return standards that have guided the transformation of Heritage over the last several years. Profitable growth remains the priority. The transformation of our business is also reflected in the support we continue to receive from our reinsurance partners, who remain willing to provide capacity to support our growth. During the second quarter, we successfully completed our 2026-2027 catastrophe excess of loss program, securing greater protection while reducing our overall reinsurance cost. We placed more than $2.2 billion of limit, expanded our use of multi-year coverage and catastrophe bonds, and generated approximately $63 million of annualized savings compared to the prior year program. We believe this outcome reflects both the strength of our franchise and the continued improvement in the underlying fundamentals of the Florida market as the positive impact of legislative reform becomes more evident. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:09:31Litigation activity remains dramatically lower than it was before reform. Reinsurers now have the benefit of real-world claims experience following Hurricane Milton. As claims have developed, the results have continued to validate many of the reforms enacted in Florida and support a more favorable view of the market's long-term risk profile. Before turning the call back to Kirk, I want to spend a few moments on capital allocation. As I noted earlier, we generated significant operating cash flow during the quarter, further strengthening our balance sheet and enhancing our flexibility to invest in organic growth while also returning capital to shareholders. Year to date, we have repurchased more than one million shares of common stock at a cost of approximately $24.6 million, representing roughly 3% of shares outstanding. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:10:27We believe these repurchases have been highly accretive and reflect our confidence in the current earnings power of the company and the opportunities ahead. Simply put, we do not believe our current valuation fully reflects the strength of our operating performance, the consistency of our earnings, or the durability of the business we have built. As long as that disconnect exists, share repurchases will remain an important part of our capital allocation toolkit. At the same time, we retain the flexibility to invest in attractive growth opportunities as they emerge. We believe this balanced approach best supports long-term value creation for shareholders. In closing, we believe Heritage is entering a new chapter in its evolution. We are generating record earnings, producing substantial excess capital, and prudently positioning the business for growth. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:11:24The consistency and durability of our earnings profile are stronger than at any other point in our history as a public company, and we are excited about the opportunities ahead to create long-term value for shareholders. I want to thank our employees, agents, policyholders, reinsurers, and shareholders for their continued support and partnership. Kirk, I'll turn the call back over to you. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:11:51Thank you, Ernie, and good morning everyone. Turning to our financial highlights, Heritage reported record second quarter net income of $61.7 million, or $2.05 per diluted share, compared to $48 million or $1.55 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. Through the first six months of 2026, we generated $98.2 million of net income, up 25% from the same period last year. These results demonstrate the continued strength of our underwriting platform, the benefits of our strategic initiatives, and the improved profitability of the business. We also generated $166.5 million of operating cash flow during the quarter, providing substantial financial flexibility as we continue to invest for growth while returning capital to shareholders. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:12:39The increase in second quarter earnings was primarily driven by lower net losses and loss adjustment expenses, reflecting favorable prior year reserve development and lower weather-related losses, as well as higher net premiums earned and increased investment income. These benefits were partially offset by higher policy acquisition costs. Our strong profitability generated an annualized return on average equity of 45.4% during the quarter, while shareholders' equity increased 48.1% compared with the prior year period. Premiums in force totaled $1.41 billion at quarter end, down 1.4% from $1.43 billion in the prior year quarter. The decline was primarily driven by lower commercial residential premiums due to competitive pricing pressure, particularly in Florida. As Ernie noted, we remain disciplined and will not sacrifice profitability for volume. Encouragingly, personal residential premiums in force increased 1.2% year-over-year, reflecting improving trends in that business. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:13:41Gross premiums earned were $351.2 million, compared with $353.6 million in the prior year quarter. Net premiums earned increased 2.4% to $201.1 million, compared to $196.3 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting lower ceded premiums and the continued benefits of actions we have taken to optimize our reinsurance program. Gross premiums written were $380.4 million, down 5.5% from the prior year quarter, primarily reflecting the reduction in Florida commercial residential business. Underwriting performance remained exceptionally strong. The net loss ratio improved to 30.4%, compared to 38.5% in the prior year quarter, while the combined ratio improved to 64.9% from 72.9%. The improvement was driven by favorable prior year reserve development, lower weather losses, and continued strong underlying claims performance. During the quarter, we recognized $23.4 million of favorable prior year reserve development, compared with $2.3 million favorable in the prior year period. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:14:48More importantly, we continue to see stable frequency trends, manageable severity trends, and favorable claims outcomes across the portfolio. We believe these results reflect the benefit of our underwriting, pricing, and claims management actions over the last several years, along with the positive impact on recent legislative reforms in Florida. The net expense ratio was 34.5%, essentially flat from the prior year quarter. Policy acquisition costs increased modestly quarter-over-quarter, primarily due to lower ceding commissions following the reduction of our Northeast quota share program at year-end 2025. This was partially offset by lower general and administrative expenses, reflecting continued expense discipline across the organization. Net investment income increased 17.3% to $10.6 million from $9 million in the prior year quarter, driven by growth in invested assets. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:15:43We continue to maintain a conservatively positioned investment portfolio focused on high-quality fixed income securities with asset durations closely matched to our liabilities. The effective tax rate of the quarter was 24.9%, compared with 23.8% in the prior year quarter. The increase was primarily driven by changes in pre-tax income and certain permanent tax items. As a reminder, our effective tax rate can fluctuate throughout the year as earnings levels change and estimates are refined. Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with total assets of $2.45 billion, including $1.39 billion of cash and invested assets, and shareholders' equity of $567.7 million. Book value per share increased to $19.09 as of June 30th, 2026, up 16.5% from December 31st, 2025, and up 54.5% from June 30th, 2025. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:16:41The increase from year-end 2025 was driven primarily by strong earnings generation, partially offset by a $4.9 million net of tax increase in unrealized losses within the fixed income portfolio and the repurchase of $24.6 million of common stock during the first six months of 2026. Despite these capital deployment activities, book value per share continued to grow meaningfully, reflecting the strength of our operating performance and capital generation. Non-regulated cash at quarter end was $47.8 million. Cash flow from operations was $166.5 million, and combined statutory surplus increased $47 million from year-end 2025 to $439.5 million. Importantly, our debt-to-capital ratio has continued to decline as the company's earnings power and cash generation have improved. At the end of the second quarter, our debt-to-capital ratio was 11%, reflecting the successful implementation of our strategic initiatives. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:17:42Our significant non-regulated cash, strong operating cash flow, available leverage capacity, and increased statutory capital position us well to support growth as open territories continue to scale new business production. As the company's earnings power has increased, we have continued to build capital, which we are prioritizing for organic growth and other growth opportunities, along with opportunistic share repurchases when we believe our shares are undervalued relative to our financial performance and future earnings potential. Year-to-date, we have repurchased more than 1 million shares of common stock for $24.6 million. Of that amount, $12.6 million was repurchased under the board-authorized 50-million share repurchase program announced in the first quarter and available through December 31st, 2026, leaving $37.4 million of remaining authorization. As we enter the second half of the year, we believe Heritage is exceptionally well-positioned. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:18:42We have generated record earnings, producing substantial excess capital and seeing encouraging signs of return to growth. Importantly, we see meaningful opportunities to profitably expand the business and continue developing long-term value for our shareholders, agents, and policyholders. Thank you for your time today. Operator, we are now ready to take questions. Operator00:19:04We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Mark Hughes with Truist. Please go ahead. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:19:37Yeah, thank you. Good morning. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:19:39Morning, Mark. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:19:41Ernie, Kirk, the rate expectations, when we think about Florida, obviously, there's been really good benefits from reform you're seeing in the loss ratio. What does that translate into when you look at your rate filings there over the next six, 12 months? Same question for the book as a whole, including other states. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:20:08Well, what we're evaluating right now, simply from the standpoint of the reinsurance, went down rather substantially. We think that is going to translate into rate reductions in Florida. Outside of Florida, I would say that we're probably going to see modest rate increases. From the standpoint, we're rate adequate almost across the board, you're going to see rate increases comparable with claims inflation to kind of keep the margins flat with where they are. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:20:41With the decline in reinsurance costs, what do you think it means for Florida? What's the range of potential outcomes? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:20:49We're finalizing that, Mark, if you take a look last year, we were down 3%-5%, I would say it'd be in that range once we finalize it. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:20:59Kirk, what's a good ceded premium number for the third quarter with the new program? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:06I think that you can count on a ratio probably dropping one to two points with the new reinsurance program. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:21:15It's been kind of 43-ish in the first half, so maybe 42-ish? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:22I'd say maybe even a little better than that. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:21:25Forty-one-ish. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:25It's in the ish. Yeah. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:21:29Okay. The new production kind of starting to grow again in new states, is that going to have a meaningful impact on the loss picks? Presumably, that business is being written at a higher combined ratio. How should we think about that? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:53Yeah, no. We're actually sticking to our underwriting guidelines and margins. I don't think it's going to have much detrimental impact to the loss ratios. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:22:04Yeah. Okay. The cash from operations, the $166.5 million, if there's some quarterly dynamic that I'm not familiar with, let me know, that seems like a really strong number. What's driving that? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:22:27Basically, a lot of it is just the net income that we've had over last year, that type of stuff. That's one of the big factors there. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:22:37Yeah. The $166.5 million is 2Q alone. Is that correct, or is that first half? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:22:43It's 2Q. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:22:45Okay. Seems a lot stronger than your net income. Just good financials. There's some working cap or something else going on in the cash flow? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:23:01Well, we're working on our balance sheet, have over the last several years as far as what our expenses, what our debt is, the investment income. It's just a myriad of things we've been kind of working on the overall balance sheet also, which is starting to translate a little bit more into free cash flow. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:23:23Yeah. The $23.4 million, the favorable development, could you talk about that? Was that 2025 stuff even older? This seems like a nice number. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:23:35Yeah. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:23:36Something you can bake into this quarter. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:23:38Yeah, it's spread throughout a number of years. It also is spread through predominantly with HBCIC, but also Narragansett Bay. Really what it reflects, it's several positive trends that basically have come evident even more over the last several quarters. Key drivers are the stabilization of frequency, severity also being within a manageable range. I would say the late reported claims have leveled off and are really lower than what they have historically been. That's just related to us closing claims Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:24:22Lower than what we had expected. It's accumulation, and what we did is we kind of held on to those for a while just to make sure that those trends were consistent and were stabilizing before we realized the development on it. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:24:38Okay. I might ask another one. The commercial residential, you talked about prices under pressure there, it's more competitive. Where do you think that stands in the cycle here? How close are we to the bottom? Is there any sign that those are stabilizing at all? How do you think about that? Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:04As we look at that, Mark, we know there's more competition out there. We're sticking to our underwriting guidelines. We know there's new entrants into the market. There have been a number of accounts, just to be frank, that we've walked away from because it's priced inadequate, but we've seen that leveling off. The good news is commercial has also expanded into other areas, including Hawaii. New York and New Jersey have increased for us as well, so that's kind of lessening it in Florida. Again, we will be competitive, but we'll be responsibly competitive. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:39Okay. Maybe some signs of leveling off in- Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:43Yep Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:43Florida? Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:44Yep. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:46Mark, also, by the way, one thing is that a cash flow from operations is for the first six months. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:51For the six months. Okay. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:53First six months, yes. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:54Even so, still quite a strong number. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:57Yes. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:59Okay. Thank you very much. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:26:01Thank you. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:26:01Appreciate it. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:26:04The next question comes from Karol Chmiel with Citizens. Please go ahead. Karol ChmielAnalyst at Citizens00:26:12Hi. Yeah. Mark just went into the prior period development that I was going to ask about, that was great. I'll just follow up with just one other question. It's regarding your debt level, the fact that you're paying it off. Is it something you want to continue to pay off throughout the year and into next year? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:26:38No, not necessarily. We're pretty happy with the rate we have there. What we did is we had a couple other smaller loans. For example, we had a mortgage on a building last year that we'd sold. This year, we actually did have a little bit of loan at Federal Home Loan Bank of Des Moines for Zephyr, which we paid off simply from the standpoint the rate on that was higher than what we were getting from a return standpoint. We'll prudently look at paying down this stuff, but right now, we're pretty happy with the debt facility. Therefore, we'll probably kind of maintain that. We also, at this point, still have $75 million left as a deferred term loan on that facility, in the event we wanted to use it. Karol ChmielAnalyst at Citizens00:27:25Okay. Just last one here, since I'm on the call already. You said the loss ratios should be stable, if you were just to break it apart into the components, accident year versus prior periods, are you thinking that on a net basis, it will be stable, accident year might rise over time with the lower rates in Florida, your prior period development would be favorable, and as a net, it would just be more of a flat loss ratio? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:28:03Yeah. I'm saying flat excluding the development. We do think that we're definitely adequate reserved. Again, that is more of a one-time item, therefore, backing that out would be the stabilization of the loss ratio. Karol ChmielAnalyst at Citizens00:28:22Gotcha. Thank you very much. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:28:24Thank you, Karol. Operator00:28:27The next question comes from Cam Bianchi with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Cam BianchiAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:28:33Hi, good morning. This is Cam for Paul. My first question is on commercial residential. This grew 4.9%, but commercial premiums in force fell 12.7%. I'm just wondering if you could unpack the gap between policy count growth and the premium contraction. Is this more pure rate or pricing pressure, or is it also a mix shift towards maybe smaller companies? Thanks. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:28:59Yeah. It is competitive pressure on those accounts. What we've had to do is we are walking away from some accounts simply due to the extent of the rate decreases. We are able to write some, even with the rate decreases. New business, the policy count is up because we are writing some smaller commercial accounts from a new business perspective, therefore, that is increasing our policy count. Again, that has a lot to do with where we see the pricing favorability on those accounts. We also have our dedicated commercial agents, which do an absolutely great job of evaluating the risks. Therefore, from an underwriting standpoint, and from a pricing standpoint, we're very comfortable writing that new business that we've been getting. Cam BianchiAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:29:53Awesome. Got it. Then just one more from me. You started writing in Texas, you mentioned. What's the underwriting appetite there, and how quickly could we see that scale relative to maybe like the Florida commercial book? Yeah. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:30:07Yes. We're really excited about Texas. Just launched it in July, early stages, but very well receptive. We've got a couple policies already and meeting with several agents out there. There is appetite for us, but as we said, it'll be a small contribution this year, and we expect it to grow over the next two to three years. Cam BianchiAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:30:28Excellent. Thank you. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:30:29Yep, appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:30:33Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ernie Garateix for any final remarks. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:30:42Yep. We'd like to thank everybody for joining the call, and especially thank our employees for all their hard work. Operator00:30:51The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesKirk LuskCFOErnie GarateixCEOAnalystsMark HughesAnalyst at TruistKarol ChmielAnalyst at CitizensCam BianchiAnalyst at Piper SandlerPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Heritage Insurance Earnings HeadlinesHeritage Insurance Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:HRTG) Stock Has Average Target Price of $36.50September 28 at 4:15 AM | americanbankingnews.comHeritage Insurance alla Small-Cap Virtual Conference: la ripresa si consolidaSeptember 24, 2026 | it.investing.comA “bloodbath” Is ComingReports suggest some Silicon Valley billionaires are stockpiling gold, guns, and gas masks - or leaving the country entirely - as concerns grow about the next phase of the AI market. 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Email Address About Heritage InsuranceHeritage Insurance (NYSE:HRTG) is a property and casualty insurance company that provides residential property coverage through its insurance subsidiaries. Its products primarily include homeowners insurance and related coverage for personal and commercial residential properties, including protection against risks such as wind, fire and other property damage. The company focuses on serving customers in catastrophe-exposed coastal markets, particularly in the Southeastern United States. Its operations have included Florida and other states along the Atlantic and Gulf coasts, with coverage offerings and geographic exposure varying by subsidiary and regulatory approval. Heritage distributes its policies through independent agents and other insurance professionals. Heritage Insurance Holdings was established in the early 2010s and became a publicly traded company in 2014. The company’s insurance operations include Heritage Property & Casualty Insurance Company and other affiliated insurers serving residential policyholders. Ernie Garateix serves as the company’s president and chief executive officer.View Heritage Insurance ProfileRead more More Earnings Resources from MarketBeat Earnings Tools Today's Earnings Tomorrow's Earnings Next Week's Earnings Upcoming Earnings Calls Earnings Newsletter Earnings Call Transcripts Earnings Beats & Misses Corporate Guidance Earnings Screener Latest Articles Brewing Trouble? 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Heritage Insurance Holdings Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Please note today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kirk Lusk, Chief Financial Officer for the company. Sir, please go ahead. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:00:18Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. We invite you to visit the investors section of our website, investors.heritagepci.com, where the earnings release and our earnings call will be archived. These materials are available for replay or review at your convenience. Today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based upon management's current expectations and subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. In our earnings press release and our SEC filings, we detail material risks that may cause our future results to differ from our expectations. Our statements are as of today, and we have no obligation to update any forward-looking statements we may make. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:01:02For a description of the forward-looking statements and the risks that could cause our results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K earnings release and other SEC filings. Our comments today will also include non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliations of, and other information regarding these measures can be found in our press release. With me on the call today is Ernie Garateix, our Chief Executive Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Ernie. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:01:35Thanks, Kirk, and good morning, everyone. Before discussing our second quarter results, I want to step back and frame where Heritage stands today and how meaningfully the business has evolved over the last several years. When we began executing our strategic initiatives, our objectives were clear: improve profitability, achieve rate adequacy, strengthen the balance sheet, reduce volatility, and position Heritage for sustainable long-term growth. Delivering on those objectives required difficult but necessary decisions. We re-underwrote portions of the portfolio, reduced exposure where returns did not justify the risk, implemented meaningful rate actions, strengthened our reserving position, and continued investing in technology and operating infrastructure. The results of those efforts are increasingly visible in our financial performance. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:02:36In the second quarter, Heritage generated record net income of $61.7 million, record diluted earnings per share of $2.05, an annualized return on equity in excess of 45%, and substantial operating cash flow of $166.5 million. Importantly, these results were achieved while maintaining the underwriting discipline that has guided our strategy. We continue to believe long-term shareholder value is created through profitable underwriting and disciplined capital allocation, not by pursuing premium growth at any cost. We also believe the market continues to underappreciate the extent of our geographic diversification and the reduction in earnings volatility that has resulted from that diversification. Heritage has historically been viewed primarily as a Florida-focused property insurer. While Florida remains an important market for us, Heritage today operates as a super-regional insurance platform with business spread across multiple geographies, products, and distribution channels. That diversification improves both the quality and durability of our earnings. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:04:02It gives us the flexibility to allocate capital towards markets and products where we see the strongest risk-adjusted returns while reducing exposure in areas where competition is excessive or pricing does not support acceptable margins. As market conditions evolve, we can shift our focus and capital towards opportunities that we believe will create the best long-term returns for shareholders while maintaining compliance with insurance regulatory requirements. We are seeing that flexibility play out today. While commercial residential pricing in portions of Florida has become highly competitive, we continue to see attractive opportunities across many of the personal residential markets throughout our footprint. This flexibility is important because it allows us to remain disciplined. We do not need to chase underpriced business or force growth in any single geography. Instead, we can allocate capital where underwriting conditions are most favorable and where we believe we can generate attractive long-term returns. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:05:12As a result, Heritage's earning profile today is significantly more durable and resilient than it was just a few years ago. Over the last several years, policy count declines were largely the result of deliberate actions taken to improve profitability, achieve rate adequacy, and reposition the portfolio. Those actions have been successful, and we believe the vast majority of that work is now behind us. Today, nearly all of our territories are open for new business, our agency relationships remain strong, and production trends continue moving in the right direction. Most importantly, the pace of policy count decline continues to moderate. As a result, we believe our personal residential business is approaching an important inflection point. New business production continues to strengthen, retention remains healthy, and we are seeing encouraging trends across a number of our reopened territories. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:06:15As those territories mature and production continues to build, we believe the foundation is in place for a return to policy count growth. Our transition back to growth has been temporarily slowed by the rollout of Guidewire, as the implementation creates a short-term learning curve for agents and can result in several months of slower production. Importantly, we have consistently seen activity improve meaningfully once agents become familiar with the platform. Agent feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. Agents consistently tell us that Guidewire is easier to use, more automated, and significantly more efficient than our legacy system. As implementation progresses across our footprint and the temporary transition effects begin to fade, we believe production will continue to improve, positioning us for a return to policy count growth in the coming quarters. Equally important is what we're hearing directly from our agent partners. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:07:17Across reopened territories, agents continue to express a desire to place more business with Heritage. We worked hard to maintain these relationships during the years in which we prioritized profitability and portfolio repositioning. We communicated transparently about our strategy, the reasons behind our decisions, and our long-term intentions. As a result, agents have welcomed us back into markets where production was previously restricted and are actively looking to grow with us. We also wrote our first policy in Texas through our excess and surplus lines platform. While the initial contribution will be modest, Texas represents another attractive market where we can leverage our underwriting expertise and agency relationships. We view Texas as another step in the continued diversification of our business and another opportunity to allocate capital towards attractive long-term growth. We are also evaluating additional opportunities across both personal and commercial lines. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:08:21Every opportunity must meet the same underwriting, profitability, and return standards that have guided the transformation of Heritage over the last several years. Profitable growth remains the priority. The transformation of our business is also reflected in the support we continue to receive from our reinsurance partners, who remain willing to provide capacity to support our growth. During the second quarter, we successfully completed our 2026-2027 catastrophe excess of loss program, securing greater protection while reducing our overall reinsurance cost. We placed more than $2.2 billion of limit, expanded our use of multi-year coverage and catastrophe bonds, and generated approximately $63 million of annualized savings compared to the prior year program. We believe this outcome reflects both the strength of our franchise and the continued improvement in the underlying fundamentals of the Florida market as the positive impact of legislative reform becomes more evident. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:09:31Litigation activity remains dramatically lower than it was before reform. Reinsurers now have the benefit of real-world claims experience following Hurricane Milton. As claims have developed, the results have continued to validate many of the reforms enacted in Florida and support a more favorable view of the market's long-term risk profile. Before turning the call back to Kirk, I want to spend a few moments on capital allocation. As I noted earlier, we generated significant operating cash flow during the quarter, further strengthening our balance sheet and enhancing our flexibility to invest in organic growth while also returning capital to shareholders. Year to date, we have repurchased more than one million shares of common stock at a cost of approximately $24.6 million, representing roughly 3% of shares outstanding. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:10:27We believe these repurchases have been highly accretive and reflect our confidence in the current earnings power of the company and the opportunities ahead. Simply put, we do not believe our current valuation fully reflects the strength of our operating performance, the consistency of our earnings, or the durability of the business we have built. As long as that disconnect exists, share repurchases will remain an important part of our capital allocation toolkit. At the same time, we retain the flexibility to invest in attractive growth opportunities as they emerge. We believe this balanced approach best supports long-term value creation for shareholders. In closing, we believe Heritage is entering a new chapter in its evolution. We are generating record earnings, producing substantial excess capital, and prudently positioning the business for growth. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:11:24The consistency and durability of our earnings profile are stronger than at any other point in our history as a public company, and we are excited about the opportunities ahead to create long-term value for shareholders. I want to thank our employees, agents, policyholders, reinsurers, and shareholders for their continued support and partnership. Kirk, I'll turn the call back over to you. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:11:51Thank you, Ernie, and good morning everyone. Turning to our financial highlights, Heritage reported record second quarter net income of $61.7 million, or $2.05 per diluted share, compared to $48 million or $1.55 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. Through the first six months of 2026, we generated $98.2 million of net income, up 25% from the same period last year. These results demonstrate the continued strength of our underwriting platform, the benefits of our strategic initiatives, and the improved profitability of the business. We also generated $166.5 million of operating cash flow during the quarter, providing substantial financial flexibility as we continue to invest for growth while returning capital to shareholders. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:12:39The increase in second quarter earnings was primarily driven by lower net losses and loss adjustment expenses, reflecting favorable prior year reserve development and lower weather-related losses, as well as higher net premiums earned and increased investment income. These benefits were partially offset by higher policy acquisition costs. Our strong profitability generated an annualized return on average equity of 45.4% during the quarter, while shareholders' equity increased 48.1% compared with the prior year period. Premiums in force totaled $1.41 billion at quarter end, down 1.4% from $1.43 billion in the prior year quarter. The decline was primarily driven by lower commercial residential premiums due to competitive pricing pressure, particularly in Florida. As Ernie noted, we remain disciplined and will not sacrifice profitability for volume. Encouragingly, personal residential premiums in force increased 1.2% year-over-year, reflecting improving trends in that business. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:13:41Gross premiums earned were $351.2 million, compared with $353.6 million in the prior year quarter. Net premiums earned increased 2.4% to $201.1 million, compared to $196.3 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting lower ceded premiums and the continued benefits of actions we have taken to optimize our reinsurance program. Gross premiums written were $380.4 million, down 5.5% from the prior year quarter, primarily reflecting the reduction in Florida commercial residential business. Underwriting performance remained exceptionally strong. The net loss ratio improved to 30.4%, compared to 38.5% in the prior year quarter, while the combined ratio improved to 64.9% from 72.9%. The improvement was driven by favorable prior year reserve development, lower weather losses, and continued strong underlying claims performance. During the quarter, we recognized $23.4 million of favorable prior year reserve development, compared with $2.3 million favorable in the prior year period. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:14:48More importantly, we continue to see stable frequency trends, manageable severity trends, and favorable claims outcomes across the portfolio. We believe these results reflect the benefit of our underwriting, pricing, and claims management actions over the last several years, along with the positive impact on recent legislative reforms in Florida. The net expense ratio was 34.5%, essentially flat from the prior year quarter. Policy acquisition costs increased modestly quarter-over-quarter, primarily due to lower ceding commissions following the reduction of our Northeast quota share program at year-end 2025. This was partially offset by lower general and administrative expenses, reflecting continued expense discipline across the organization. Net investment income increased 17.3% to $10.6 million from $9 million in the prior year quarter, driven by growth in invested assets. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:15:43We continue to maintain a conservatively positioned investment portfolio focused on high-quality fixed income securities with asset durations closely matched to our liabilities. The effective tax rate of the quarter was 24.9%, compared with 23.8% in the prior year quarter. The increase was primarily driven by changes in pre-tax income and certain permanent tax items. As a reminder, our effective tax rate can fluctuate throughout the year as earnings levels change and estimates are refined. Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with total assets of $2.45 billion, including $1.39 billion of cash and invested assets, and shareholders' equity of $567.7 million. Book value per share increased to $19.09 as of June 30th, 2026, up 16.5% from December 31st, 2025, and up 54.5% from June 30th, 2025. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:16:41The increase from year-end 2025 was driven primarily by strong earnings generation, partially offset by a $4.9 million net of tax increase in unrealized losses within the fixed income portfolio and the repurchase of $24.6 million of common stock during the first six months of 2026. Despite these capital deployment activities, book value per share continued to grow meaningfully, reflecting the strength of our operating performance and capital generation. Non-regulated cash at quarter end was $47.8 million. Cash flow from operations was $166.5 million, and combined statutory surplus increased $47 million from year-end 2025 to $439.5 million. Importantly, our debt-to-capital ratio has continued to decline as the company's earnings power and cash generation have improved. At the end of the second quarter, our debt-to-capital ratio was 11%, reflecting the successful implementation of our strategic initiatives. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:17:42Our significant non-regulated cash, strong operating cash flow, available leverage capacity, and increased statutory capital position us well to support growth as open territories continue to scale new business production. As the company's earnings power has increased, we have continued to build capital, which we are prioritizing for organic growth and other growth opportunities, along with opportunistic share repurchases when we believe our shares are undervalued relative to our financial performance and future earnings potential. Year-to-date, we have repurchased more than 1 million shares of common stock for $24.6 million. Of that amount, $12.6 million was repurchased under the board-authorized 50-million share repurchase program announced in the first quarter and available through December 31st, 2026, leaving $37.4 million of remaining authorization. As we enter the second half of the year, we believe Heritage is exceptionally well-positioned. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:18:42We have generated record earnings, producing substantial excess capital and seeing encouraging signs of return to growth. Importantly, we see meaningful opportunities to profitably expand the business and continue developing long-term value for our shareholders, agents, and policyholders. Thank you for your time today. Operator, we are now ready to take questions. Operator00:19:04We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Mark Hughes with Truist. Please go ahead. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:19:37Yeah, thank you. Good morning. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:19:39Morning, Mark. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:19:41Ernie, Kirk, the rate expectations, when we think about Florida, obviously, there's been really good benefits from reform you're seeing in the loss ratio. What does that translate into when you look at your rate filings there over the next six, 12 months? Same question for the book as a whole, including other states. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:20:08Well, what we're evaluating right now, simply from the standpoint of the reinsurance, went down rather substantially. We think that is going to translate into rate reductions in Florida. Outside of Florida, I would say that we're probably going to see modest rate increases. From the standpoint, we're rate adequate almost across the board, you're going to see rate increases comparable with claims inflation to kind of keep the margins flat with where they are. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:20:41With the decline in reinsurance costs, what do you think it means for Florida? What's the range of potential outcomes? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:20:49We're finalizing that, Mark, if you take a look last year, we were down 3%-5%, I would say it'd be in that range once we finalize it. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:20:59Kirk, what's a good ceded premium number for the third quarter with the new program? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:06I think that you can count on a ratio probably dropping one to two points with the new reinsurance program. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:21:15It's been kind of 43-ish in the first half, so maybe 42-ish? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:22I'd say maybe even a little better than that. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:21:25Forty-one-ish. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:25It's in the ish. Yeah. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:21:29Okay. The new production kind of starting to grow again in new states, is that going to have a meaningful impact on the loss picks? Presumably, that business is being written at a higher combined ratio. How should we think about that? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:21:53Yeah, no. We're actually sticking to our underwriting guidelines and margins. I don't think it's going to have much detrimental impact to the loss ratios. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:22:04Yeah. Okay. The cash from operations, the $166.5 million, if there's some quarterly dynamic that I'm not familiar with, let me know, that seems like a really strong number. What's driving that? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:22:27Basically, a lot of it is just the net income that we've had over last year, that type of stuff. That's one of the big factors there. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:22:37Yeah. The $166.5 million is 2Q alone. Is that correct, or is that first half? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:22:43It's 2Q. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:22:45Okay. Seems a lot stronger than your net income. Just good financials. There's some working cap or something else going on in the cash flow? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:23:01Well, we're working on our balance sheet, have over the last several years as far as what our expenses, what our debt is, the investment income. It's just a myriad of things we've been kind of working on the overall balance sheet also, which is starting to translate a little bit more into free cash flow. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:23:23Yeah. The $23.4 million, the favorable development, could you talk about that? Was that 2025 stuff even older? This seems like a nice number. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:23:35Yeah. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:23:36Something you can bake into this quarter. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:23:38Yeah, it's spread throughout a number of years. It also is spread through predominantly with HBCIC, but also Narragansett Bay. Really what it reflects, it's several positive trends that basically have come evident even more over the last several quarters. Key drivers are the stabilization of frequency, severity also being within a manageable range. I would say the late reported claims have leveled off and are really lower than what they have historically been. That's just related to us closing claims Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:24:22Lower than what we had expected. It's accumulation, and what we did is we kind of held on to those for a while just to make sure that those trends were consistent and were stabilizing before we realized the development on it. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:24:38Okay. I might ask another one. The commercial residential, you talked about prices under pressure there, it's more competitive. Where do you think that stands in the cycle here? How close are we to the bottom? Is there any sign that those are stabilizing at all? How do you think about that? Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:04As we look at that, Mark, we know there's more competition out there. We're sticking to our underwriting guidelines. We know there's new entrants into the market. There have been a number of accounts, just to be frank, that we've walked away from because it's priced inadequate, but we've seen that leveling off. The good news is commercial has also expanded into other areas, including Hawaii. New York and New Jersey have increased for us as well, so that's kind of lessening it in Florida. Again, we will be competitive, but we'll be responsibly competitive. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:39Okay. Maybe some signs of leveling off in- Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:43Yep Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:43Florida? Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:44Yep. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:46Mark, also, by the way, one thing is that a cash flow from operations is for the first six months. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:51For the six months. Okay. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:53First six months, yes. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:54Even so, still quite a strong number. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:25:57Yes. Mark HughesAnalyst at Truist00:25:59Okay. Thank you very much. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:26:01Thank you. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:26:01Appreciate it. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:26:04The next question comes from Karol Chmiel with Citizens. Please go ahead. Karol ChmielAnalyst at Citizens00:26:12Hi. Yeah. Mark just went into the prior period development that I was going to ask about, that was great. I'll just follow up with just one other question. It's regarding your debt level, the fact that you're paying it off. Is it something you want to continue to pay off throughout the year and into next year? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:26:38No, not necessarily. We're pretty happy with the rate we have there. What we did is we had a couple other smaller loans. For example, we had a mortgage on a building last year that we'd sold. This year, we actually did have a little bit of loan at Federal Home Loan Bank of Des Moines for Zephyr, which we paid off simply from the standpoint the rate on that was higher than what we were getting from a return standpoint. We'll prudently look at paying down this stuff, but right now, we're pretty happy with the debt facility. Therefore, we'll probably kind of maintain that. We also, at this point, still have $75 million left as a deferred term loan on that facility, in the event we wanted to use it. Karol ChmielAnalyst at Citizens00:27:25Okay. Just last one here, since I'm on the call already. You said the loss ratios should be stable, if you were just to break it apart into the components, accident year versus prior periods, are you thinking that on a net basis, it will be stable, accident year might rise over time with the lower rates in Florida, your prior period development would be favorable, and as a net, it would just be more of a flat loss ratio? Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:28:03Yeah. I'm saying flat excluding the development. We do think that we're definitely adequate reserved. Again, that is more of a one-time item, therefore, backing that out would be the stabilization of the loss ratio. Karol ChmielAnalyst at Citizens00:28:22Gotcha. Thank you very much. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:28:24Thank you, Karol. Operator00:28:27The next question comes from Cam Bianchi with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Cam BianchiAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:28:33Hi, good morning. This is Cam for Paul. My first question is on commercial residential. This grew 4.9%, but commercial premiums in force fell 12.7%. I'm just wondering if you could unpack the gap between policy count growth and the premium contraction. Is this more pure rate or pricing pressure, or is it also a mix shift towards maybe smaller companies? Thanks. Kirk LuskCFO at Heritage Insurance00:28:59Yeah. It is competitive pressure on those accounts. What we've had to do is we are walking away from some accounts simply due to the extent of the rate decreases. We are able to write some, even with the rate decreases. New business, the policy count is up because we are writing some smaller commercial accounts from a new business perspective, therefore, that is increasing our policy count. Again, that has a lot to do with where we see the pricing favorability on those accounts. We also have our dedicated commercial agents, which do an absolutely great job of evaluating the risks. Therefore, from an underwriting standpoint, and from a pricing standpoint, we're very comfortable writing that new business that we've been getting. Cam BianchiAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:29:53Awesome. Got it. Then just one more from me. You started writing in Texas, you mentioned. What's the underwriting appetite there, and how quickly could we see that scale relative to maybe like the Florida commercial book? Yeah. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:30:07Yes. We're really excited about Texas. Just launched it in July, early stages, but very well receptive. We've got a couple policies already and meeting with several agents out there. There is appetite for us, but as we said, it'll be a small contribution this year, and we expect it to grow over the next two to three years. Cam BianchiAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:30:28Excellent. Thank you. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:30:29Yep, appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:30:33Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ernie Garateix for any final remarks. Ernie GarateixCEO at Heritage Insurance00:30:42Yep. We'd like to thank everybody for joining the call, and especially thank our employees for all their hard work. Operator00:30:51The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesKirk LuskCFOErnie GarateixCEOAnalystsMark HughesAnalyst at TruistKarol ChmielAnalyst at CitizensCam BianchiAnalyst at Piper SandlerPowered by