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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Kingstone Companies EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.04Consensus EPS $0.95Beat/MissBeat by +$0.09One Year Ago EPSN/AKingstone Companies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$65.85 millionExpected Revenue$71.70 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$5.85 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AKingstone Companies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2026Date8/6/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, August 7, 2026Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsKingstone Companies' Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, November 5, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, November 6, 2026 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Kingstone Companies Q2 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2026ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Kingstone reported a record second quarter, with net income of $15.5 million, diluted EPS of $1.05, a 70.2% GAAP net combined ratio, and a 50.8% annualized ROE. Book value per share rose 35% year over year to $8.69. Positive Sentiment: Direct premiums written increased 19% to $72.5 million, while policies in force rose nearly 10%; higher retention, stronger new business, reduced quota-share cession, and a 49% increase in investment income supported results. Management reaffirmed 2026 guidance, including 16%-20% premium growth and $2.20-$2.90 in diluted EPS. Negative Sentiment: Management is seeing a softening, increasingly competitive market, particularly in Dwelling Fire, with new entrants and looser competitor underwriting guidelines. New York growth is expected to moderate in the second half, although the company said the impact should initially be more visible in new business than renewals. Positive Sentiment: The July 1 catastrophe reinsurance program increased protection 14% to $500 million, added wildfire coverage, and reduced the risk-adjusted cost of core coverage by more than 15% while preserving low first-event retentions. Management characterized a Sandy-sized event as an earnings event rather than a capital event. Neutral Sentiment: Kingstone has begun a cautious California expansion through a small number of agencies and expects to enter Connecticut on an admitted basis late in the third quarter. It will scale these markets only if underwriting returns meet its standards, while prioritizing growth funding, a recently increased dividend, and opportunistic share repurchases. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallKingstone Companies Q2 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to Kingstone Companies' second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the call over to your host, Stefan Norbom, Kingstone's Investor Relations Representative. Stefan, you may begin. Stefan NorbomInvestor Relations Representative at Kingstone Companies00:00:16Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Joining us today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Meryl Golden, and Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Randy Patten. On behalf of the company, I would like to note that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from projected results. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made. Kingstone undertakes no obligation to update the information discussed. For more information, please refer to the section entitled Risk Factors in Part One, Item 1A of the company's latest Form 10-K. Additionally, today's remarks may include references to non-GAAP measures. For definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please see the tables in our latest earnings release available at kingstonecompanies.com. Stefan NorbomInvestor Relations Representative at Kingstone Companies00:01:12With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Meryl Golden. Meryl? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:01:18Thanks, Stefan. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our call. Kingstone delivered the most profitable quarter in our history. Net income reached a record $15.5 million, net income per diluted share increased 35% to $1.05, Our GAAP net combined ratio improved 1.3 points to 70.2. That performance produced an annualized return on equity of 50.8%. Diluted book value per share reached $8.69, up 35% year-over-year, reflecting the value we are creating for shareholders. The earnings contribution was broad-based, driven by premium growth, underwriting profitability, operating efficiency, and higher investment income. Turning to growth, direct premiums written increased 19% to $72.5 million, led by continued strength in New York Personal Line. Relative to the prior year quarter, new business policy count increased 35%, retention improved by two percentage points, Average renewal premium increased 8%. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:02:34Net premiums earned grew 31% to $60.5 million as prior period growth continued to earn in. Our lower quota share cession allowed us to retain more premium. While growth was robust this quarter, we are seeing signs of a softening market and an increasingly competitive environment. The pressure so far is most visible in the Dwelling Fire line. Demand across the broader franchise remains healthy as our new business and retention results show. Competition has entered and exited this market over time, while Kingstone's broad and long-standing producer relationships have supported our performance throughout market cycles. Select has proven effective at risk selection and matching rate to risk, which matters even more in this environment. We will not chase volume at the expense of underwriting discipline. As competition increases, New York growth will moderate from first half levels. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:03:38Our 16%-20% full-year guidance growth outlook already reflects the likelihood of increased competition. Turning to underwriting, attritional claim frequency remains very low overall, flat for non-weather water losses, our largest peril, and up modestly from the prior year quarter for fire losses. Attritional severity for the non-weather water and fire perils combined increased, consistent with inflation and offset by the increase in average premium. Against an exceptionally strong prior year quarter, the underlying loss ratio was 4.4 points higher. Year-to-date, though, it's up only 0.2 points. The catastrophe loss ratio was negative as favorable development on first quarter catastrophe losses exceeded second quarter catastrophe losses. We also recognized $1.6 million or 2.7 points of favorable prior year development. The Select product continues to perform well. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:04:46On an inception-to-date basis, our Select homeowners claim frequency is more than 34% lower than our legacy product, while Select Dwelling Fire frequency is 19% lower. Select now represents 62% of our homeowner policies in force and 40% of our Dwelling Fire policies in force, extending our runway for continued mix improvement. Our expense ratio improved by 2.1 points to 30.6%, reflecting continued operating leverage as we scale. Underwriting expense dollars are growing more slowly than net earned premium. The net combined ratio for the quarter was 70.2%, down 1.3 points from the prior year quarter. Randy will provide a more detailed review of our financial results. We were pleased with our July 1st catastrophe reinsurance placement. We increased total catastrophe protection by 14% to $500 million, added wildfire protection, and lowered the risk-adjusted cost of our core catastrophe excess of loss coverage by more than 15%. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:06:01We also maintained low first event retention across all perils, including wildfire. This program is built for quarters unlike this one. It protects the balance sheet against adverse catastrophe scenarios, reduces earnings volatility, and supports continued profitable growth. We entered California in the last week of the quarter through only a handful of agencies, so it is too early to draw conclusions from the initial activity. Our California business leader knows the market well and has strong producer relationships, which are helping us understand how conditions are evolving. We expected new carriers and MGAs to enter California on an E&S basis. Competition is building faster than we anticipated. That's why we started small. We're using that early feedback to refine our approach before adding meaningful volume. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:07:05Our E&S structure and platform allow us to remain nimble, adjusting pricing and appetite as market conditions evolve. We will scale only as the business meets our underwriting and return requirements. We are also on track to enter Connecticut on an admitted basis late in the third quarter. The Department of Insurance has been moving quickly on our filings, and we are preparing to begin writing business once our approvals are received. New York remains our primary growth and earnings engine. California and Connecticut are measured steps toward a more geographically diversified company and, over time, a less concentrated catastrophe footprint. These initiatives support our goal of reaching $500 million in direct premiums written by year-end 2029. We will pursue that goal at a pace consistent with our return requirements, reinsurance protection, and capital capacity. Turning to our outlook, we are reaffirming all elements of our full-year 2026 guidance. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:08:08We continue to expect direct premiums written growth of 16%-20%, a GAAP net combined ratio of 81%-86%, an underlying combined ratio of 74%-76%, and a catastrophe loss ratio of 7%-10%. The catastrophe range reflects the elevated winter storm activity in the first quarter. We also continue to expect diluted net income per share of $2.20-$2.90 and return on equity of 24%-30%. Our modeling assumptions continue to include an effective tax rate of 21% and weighted average diluted shares outstanding of 14.8 million. The operating drivers we control are on track. With the most active months of hurricane season ahead and competitive conditions evolving, we believe maintaining our current ranges is appropriate. We remain confident in our full-year outlook. The second quarter demonstrates the earning power of the business we have built. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:09:16Our New York franchise is growing, our operating platform is converting that growth into earnings, and our reinsurance and capital position support disciplined expansion. Our second-half priorities are clear. Grow New York while protecting rate adequacy, build California deliberately, launch Connecticut on schedule, and continue translating profitable growth into earnings and book value per share. I remain confident in Kingstone's trajectory because the drivers are clear. Disciplined pricing and risk selection, strong producer relationships, expense control, and prudent capital management. I want to thank the entire Kingstone team for their execution and our select producers for their continued partnership. With that, I'll turn the call over to Randy for a more detailed review of our financial results. Randy? Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:10:15Thank you, Meryl. Good morning again, everyone. From a net income and EPS standpoint, the second quarter was our most profitable quarter in company history, with net income of $15.5 million and EPS of $1.05 per diluted share, compared with $11.3 million or $0.78 per diluted share in the same quarter prior year. Operating net income increased 41% to $15.3 million, and diluted operating net income per share was $1.04 in the second quarter of 2026, compared with $0.75 in the prior year quarter. Annualized GAAP return on equity was 50.8% during the second quarter of 2026. As a reminder, the second quarter is typically our most profitable quarter. Net premiums earned increased 31% to $60.5 million in the second quarter of 2026, primarily reflecting continued growth in direct premiums written along with the reduced quota share cession. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:11:09Our New York quota share cession is 5% for the 2026 treaty year, a decrease of 11 percentage points from 16% in the 2025 treaty year, allowing us to retain more premium and underwriting profit. Direct premiums written increased 19% to $72.5 million and policies in force increased 9.9% to 84,570. Net investment income increased 49% to $3.4 million in the second quarter of 2026 compared with the same quarter prior year, driven by an increase in invested assets and higher average yields that increased to 4.4%. Total investments were $334.1 million at June 30th, up $24.4 million from year-end. Turning to underwriting, the GAAP net loss ratio was 39.6%, compared with 38.8% in the prior year quarter. The catastrophe loss ratio was -0.8%, compared with 0.6% in the prior year quarter. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:12:08Favorable development on our first quarter 2026 catastrophe losses exceeded the low catastrophe losses experienced during the second quarter of 2026, producing the negative ratio. Separately, we recognized 2.7 points of favorable prior year reserve development related to accident years before 2026. Excluding both cat losses and favorable prior year reserve development, the underlying performance of the book was strong in the second quarter of 2026, with an underlying loss ratio of 43.1%. This compares with 38.7% underlying loss ratio in the second quarter of 2025, a quarter when the underlying performance of book was also exceptionally strong. The net underwriting expense ratio improved 2.1 points to 30.6%, as net premiums earned grew faster than our expense base. Together, the GAAP net combined ratio improved 1.3 points to 70.2%. The underlying combined ratio was 73.7%, compared with 71.4% in the prior year quarter. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:13:09The absolute level of profitability remained strong. The expense ratio improvement demonstrates the scalability of the business. For the first six months of 2026, direct premiums written increased 19% to $142.1 million, and net premiums earned increased 30% to $116.3 million. Despite elevated winter catastrophe activity in the first quarter of 2026, costing about $14 million in losses, we generated net income of $9.7 million, or $0.66 per diluted share, and operating net income of $10.3 million or $0.70 per diluted share in the first half of 2026. The first half of 2026 GAAP net combined ratio was 90.2%, compared with 82.3% in the prior year period. Included 12 points of catastrophe losses, compared with 1.2 points in the first half last year. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:14:05The underlying combined ratio improved 1.3 points to 80.7%, and the underwriting expense ratio improved 1.5 points to 30.5% in the first half of 2026 compared with the first half of 2025, reflecting the strength and the performance of the underlying book of business. At June 30th, diluted book value per share was $8.69, up 35% from $6.44 a year ago. Diluted book value per share excluding accumulated other comprehensive income was $9.27, up 32% from $7.04 a year ago. With no holding company debt, our capital position continues to be strong, supporting both profitable expansion and measured shareholder returns. During the quarter, we repurchased approximately 19,500 shares at an average price of $14.98 per share under the program our board authorized in May. Following quarter-end, our board increased the quarterly dividend by 20% to $0.06 per share just one year after reinstating it. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:15:08We will continue to allocate capital to support our strategic growth plans while maximizing long-term shareholder value. With that, operator, we are ready for questions. Operator00:15:20Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question-and-answer session. To ask a question at this time, you may press star one from your telephone keypad, and a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to withdraw your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. We'll pause a moment to poll for questions, once again, it's star one. Thank you. Our first question is from the line of Bob Farnam with Brean Capital. Please proceed with your questions. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:16:02Hi there. Good morning. I've got a couple of kind of quick questions and one kind of overlooking question. On the quick questions, your expense ratio improved to 30.6%, and you're talking about how it's going to improve as the company scales. Do you have any idea of where that expense ratio could fall to when you get up to kind of full speed over the next few years? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:16:31Sure. We're thinking we could take about a point out of the expense ratio. Our interim goal is something like a 29%. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:16:44Okay, 29%. When you're looking to write business, it has to meet your profitability expectations. Can you describe kind of what you're looking for when you are writing business, what your profitability targets are? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:04Well, we're pricing for an 85% combined, that's our profitability expectation over time. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:17:11Okay. 85% combined is Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:14Over time. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:17:14Yeah. Okay. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:15Yeah. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:17:17I guess the more encompassing one is more competition. I know you offered quite a bit on competition. I kind of wanted to know the differences. I'm assuming there's a difference between the California competition and the New York competition because California's mostly E&S, New York is admitted, but it sounds like admitteds are getting into California as well. Are those admitteds the same admitteds that you face in New York, or are they a different cohort of admitteds trying to get into California at this point? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:47Sure. Perhaps I wasn't clear what I was saying. In California, the admitted carriers had stopped writing new business to a large extent over the past couple of years because of the regulatory environment. There has been a surge in volume on the E&S side. Certainly, we expected a lot of new carriers in the E&S space because we had heard about that. What we had not anticipated in California was that the admitted carriers, the largest writers of homeowners in California Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:18:28To reopen for business. We are starting to see that in the marketplace, that is something we had not anticipated. The difference is, in New York, the admitted carriers, the top 10 carriers, to a large extent, avoid catastrophe-exposed property. Our competition are the companies that focus on catastrophe-exposed property. In New York, there is one E&S writer, but most of the companies Actually, maybe two. Most of the companies are admitted. In California, our competition is both, now, the admitted and the E&S carriers. Does that answer your question, Bob? Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:19:20Yes. The admitted carriers in California, you're talking the large companies like State Farm and Farmers and whatnot. They're not avoiding getting into the catastrophe exposure? I know that the regulator was basically saying these companies have to write some high-risk policies to be able to write in the state. They're not avoiding the wildfire-exposed areas like they are avoiding the coastal areas in New York. Is that what you're saying? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:19:51Well, first of all, it's certainly not State Farm that I'm talking about. There is, in California, something called the Sustainable Insurance Strategy, Companies who file that they will write some more wildfire business. They get access to forward-looking wildfire models and to include reinsurance in their pricing and other things. We're still seeing that admitted carriers have a limited appetite, particularly for business that is exposed to wildfire. We just had not anticipated that they would start writing business again, because so many of them were very restrictive until recently. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:20:43Right. Okay. All right. You're talking about the growth moderating in New York in the second half of the year. You're talking about increased competition. Is that new competition or is that same kind of a similar thing? You're getting companies that had been there, stopped writing, and now they're slowly but surely dipping their toe back into the water? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:21:06Yeah, I mean, it's really both. Look, it's not a surprise. We all knew that the soft market is coming. What we did see in July, we saw a tick down in our new business for dwelling fire. From talking to agents, they're just talking more now about the softer market. There have been a few new market entrants and existing competitors have loosened some of their guidelines. There is one company that is priced in a really irrational way, We hope they figure that out sooner rather than later. Listen, I want to reiterate that Kingstone has a unique position in the downstate New York market. We have broad and deep distribution, and those agencies have stuck with us through various market cycles. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:21:54We have our Select product that does a great job with risk selection and matching rate to risk, which is even more important in a soft market. We have low expenses. I feel very confident we're going to continue to grow, but perhaps modestly slower than we have been. Again, it's just a different part of the cycle, and we'll do our best. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:22:16All right. Thanks for the color. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:22:19Our pleasure. Operator00:22:22The next question is from the line of Cam Bianchi with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your questions. Cam BianchiEquity Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:22:28Morning. This is Cam on for Paul. Considering the expense ratio improvement you saw in the quarter, I'm wondering, does the 30% quota share on the new California book create any near-term expense ratio drag if that state ramps that would offset any New York-driven efficiency gains? I know you mentioned about 29% is the target there, but just curious if that California book has any offset in there. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:22:54Yeah. Thanks for your question. Right now, California is such a small piece of the pie. Even by the end of this year, it's going to be way less than 5% of our total business. The 30% quota share was really intended just for risk aversion. We wanted to make sure that we didn't have a material impact on our profitability. To answer your question, it has zero, really no impact on the expense ratio at all. Cam BianchiEquity Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:23:28Got it. Understood. Then, I guess just looking forward a little bit, once the California book ramps up a little bit, and maybe just on the road to that, how are you guys prioritizing capital deployment between California and Connecticut expansion, increasing the dividend, and opportunistic repurchases? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:23:51Randy, I'll let you take that. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:23:53Sure. Yeah. Our capital allocation really remains the same even entering California. Our priorities are, first, to fund that possible growth, and we've rebuilt surplus here over the last couple of years. We're focused on growing that quarterly dividend. In the past quarter, our board did increase our dividend by 20% to $0.06 per share. Third, looking at when the opportunities present themselves, we will repurchase shares. Really in that order. Cam BianchiEquity Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:24:25Fantastic. Thank you. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:24:29Thank you. Operator00:24:31The next question is from the line of Greg Fortunoff, private investor. Please just use your question. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:24:38Hi, Greg. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:24:38Good morning. Hi, how are you? Great number. It sounds like the market's getting a little soft, but when you figured your numbers earlier in the year, were you considering that or is that something that could affect what you're thinking going forward? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:00Yeah. If you're talking about our guidance on growth in particular, we did. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:25:05Yeah Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:05A softer market in the second half of the year. The range is 16%-20%, and year-to-date, we're at 19%, so we'll have to see how it goes. Right now, we're comfortable reaffirming our guidance. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:25:23Okay. Is it wrong to think that assume, aside from any catastrophes that might hit, that this earnings is a new run rate for us, or am I getting too far ahead of myself? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:40Are you saying for Q2? Our Q2 earnings? Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:25:44Right. I know the second quarter is always the best quarter, That being said, if you go through the third quarter with no major storms and nothing out of the ordinary on the regular claims, should this be the run rate that we're expecting? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:59Yeah. I would say that our underlying combined ratio, so if you take out cat loss and the favorable prior year development, that is the run rate we're expecting. In our guidance, we split it between the underlying, which are all the things that we control, and that's a combined ratio of 74%-76%, and then the cat loss. Yes, I would say that the run rate is consistent with the guidance that we put out in March. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:26:40Okay. I understand that, except I'll just press you a little bit more to say, if you make $1.05 this quarter and then you make $1.05 next quarter, you're basically at your low end, and then it's just the fourth quarter to see how much you beat it by. You're being pretty conservative. Is that fair or no? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:27:03Listen, we want our guidance to be accurate and durable, and while we feel very positive about our outlook, it is just the very beginning of the hurricane season, and Q3 is typically a quarter where we see sizable catastrophe losses. With the change in the competitive environment, I just thought it was most prudent to maintain our guidance until we had better visibility into the rest of the year. I hope you're right, Greg. I hope we're at the very high end and we can update guidance next quarter. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:27:44All right, two more quick questions. When you talk about the competition, obviously it takes time for policies to roll off. People can't just leave mid-policy and write a new policy with someone else. I mean, when will we see the effects of what might be some competition? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:28:01Yeah. Typically in a soft market, we want to retain our renewals, and consumers generally are much more price sensitive when on new business than they are on renewal business. I think what we're most likely to see is a decline in new business writings rather than any impact on the renewal rates. Time will tell. It really depends on how aggressive the competition is. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:28:35Okay. You're expecting more of a moderation new business versus our current book. Okay. Understand. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:28:40Yeah. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:28:40This is my last question. In the past, you've told us what our maximum loss would be in the case of a Sandy or some major storm. Has that changed since we wrote the new reinsurance policy, or is that similar to, I think you had said maybe $5 million-ish or somewhere around that number? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:28:59Yeah. We had this very successful placement this year, we were able to retain our low first event retention across all perils. Our first event retention is $3.5 million for wildfire, $4.75 million for named storm like a Sandy, then winter storm and severe convective storm is $6 million. In the past, we've talked about, let's take if a storm like Sandy hit us today with our current footprint, it would cost us roughly $5 million, $4.7 million pretax, $4 million after tax, and about $0.27 per diluted share. It is certainly just an earnings event for Kingstone, not a capital event. To your question, Greg, nothing has changed. We've maintained that same very conservative first event retention to protect our surplus. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:06Yeah. I guess to think if you could only lose $0.27 in a major storm, that lets you sleep at night, I imagine. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:14Absolutely. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:16Okay. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:16I'll need that. Yeah. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:16Thank you very much, Meryl. Good work. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:19Thanks, Greg. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:20Thank you very much. Operator00:30:23The next question is in the line of Gabriel McClure with Private Investor. Please proceed with your questions. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:29Hi, Gabe. Gabriel McClureShareholder at Private Investor00:30:31Hi, good morning, and congrats on another record quarter. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:35Thank you. Gabriel McClureShareholder at Private Investor00:30:41When you were talking about the policies in force growth, you threw a number out there. I just wanted to make sure I heard you right because on the presser it said that there's a 9.9% growth. Could you repeat that again, please? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:59I don't recall talking about policy in force growth. I said new business for the quarter was up 35%, retention was up 2%, and our average premium was up 8%. We are really delighted that our policy in force growth was up almost 10% quarter-over-quarter. You're right, what's in the press release is correct. Gabriel McClureShareholder at Private Investor00:31:30Okay. That's all for me. Thanks. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:31:33Okay. Our pleasure. Operator00:31:37As a reminder, press star one to ask a question. Thank you. At this time, I'll turn the floor back to Meryl for closing comments. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:31:48Terrific. Thank you so much for your interest in Kingstone, and thanks for joining us today. Have a wonderful day. Operator00:31:55This will conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to Kingstone Companies' second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the call over to your host, Stefan Norbom, Kingstone's Investor Relations Representative. Stefan, you may begin. Stefan NorbomInvestor Relations Representative at Kingstone Companies00:00:16Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Joining us today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Meryl Golden, and Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Randy Patten. On behalf of the company, I would like to note that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from projected results. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made. Kingstone undertakes no obligation to update the information discussed. For more information, please refer to the section entitled Risk Factors in Part One, Item 1A of the company's latest Form 10-K. Additionally, today's remarks may include references to non-GAAP measures. For definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please see the tables in our latest earnings release available at kingstonecompanies.com. Stefan NorbomInvestor Relations Representative at Kingstone Companies00:01:12With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Meryl Golden. Meryl? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:01:18Thanks, Stefan. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our call. Kingstone delivered the most profitable quarter in our history. Net income reached a record $15.5 million, net income per diluted share increased 35% to $1.05, Our GAAP net combined ratio improved 1.3 points to 70.2. That performance produced an annualized return on equity of 50.8%. Diluted book value per share reached $8.69, up 35% year-over-year, reflecting the value we are creating for shareholders. The earnings contribution was broad-based, driven by premium growth, underwriting profitability, operating efficiency, and higher investment income. Turning to growth, direct premiums written increased 19% to $72.5 million, led by continued strength in New York Personal Line. Relative to the prior year quarter, new business policy count increased 35%, retention improved by two percentage points, Average renewal premium increased 8%. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:02:34Net premiums earned grew 31% to $60.5 million as prior period growth continued to earn in. Our lower quota share cession allowed us to retain more premium. While growth was robust this quarter, we are seeing signs of a softening market and an increasingly competitive environment. The pressure so far is most visible in the Dwelling Fire line. Demand across the broader franchise remains healthy as our new business and retention results show. Competition has entered and exited this market over time, while Kingstone's broad and long-standing producer relationships have supported our performance throughout market cycles. Select has proven effective at risk selection and matching rate to risk, which matters even more in this environment. We will not chase volume at the expense of underwriting discipline. As competition increases, New York growth will moderate from first half levels. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:03:38Our 16%-20% full-year guidance growth outlook already reflects the likelihood of increased competition. Turning to underwriting, attritional claim frequency remains very low overall, flat for non-weather water losses, our largest peril, and up modestly from the prior year quarter for fire losses. Attritional severity for the non-weather water and fire perils combined increased, consistent with inflation and offset by the increase in average premium. Against an exceptionally strong prior year quarter, the underlying loss ratio was 4.4 points higher. Year-to-date, though, it's up only 0.2 points. The catastrophe loss ratio was negative as favorable development on first quarter catastrophe losses exceeded second quarter catastrophe losses. We also recognized $1.6 million or 2.7 points of favorable prior year development. The Select product continues to perform well. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:04:46On an inception-to-date basis, our Select homeowners claim frequency is more than 34% lower than our legacy product, while Select Dwelling Fire frequency is 19% lower. Select now represents 62% of our homeowner policies in force and 40% of our Dwelling Fire policies in force, extending our runway for continued mix improvement. Our expense ratio improved by 2.1 points to 30.6%, reflecting continued operating leverage as we scale. Underwriting expense dollars are growing more slowly than net earned premium. The net combined ratio for the quarter was 70.2%, down 1.3 points from the prior year quarter. Randy will provide a more detailed review of our financial results. We were pleased with our July 1st catastrophe reinsurance placement. We increased total catastrophe protection by 14% to $500 million, added wildfire protection, and lowered the risk-adjusted cost of our core catastrophe excess of loss coverage by more than 15%. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:06:01We also maintained low first event retention across all perils, including wildfire. This program is built for quarters unlike this one. It protects the balance sheet against adverse catastrophe scenarios, reduces earnings volatility, and supports continued profitable growth. We entered California in the last week of the quarter through only a handful of agencies, so it is too early to draw conclusions from the initial activity. Our California business leader knows the market well and has strong producer relationships, which are helping us understand how conditions are evolving. We expected new carriers and MGAs to enter California on an E&S basis. Competition is building faster than we anticipated. That's why we started small. We're using that early feedback to refine our approach before adding meaningful volume. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:07:05Our E&S structure and platform allow us to remain nimble, adjusting pricing and appetite as market conditions evolve. We will scale only as the business meets our underwriting and return requirements. We are also on track to enter Connecticut on an admitted basis late in the third quarter. The Department of Insurance has been moving quickly on our filings, and we are preparing to begin writing business once our approvals are received. New York remains our primary growth and earnings engine. California and Connecticut are measured steps toward a more geographically diversified company and, over time, a less concentrated catastrophe footprint. These initiatives support our goal of reaching $500 million in direct premiums written by year-end 2029. We will pursue that goal at a pace consistent with our return requirements, reinsurance protection, and capital capacity. Turning to our outlook, we are reaffirming all elements of our full-year 2026 guidance. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:08:08We continue to expect direct premiums written growth of 16%-20%, a GAAP net combined ratio of 81%-86%, an underlying combined ratio of 74%-76%, and a catastrophe loss ratio of 7%-10%. The catastrophe range reflects the elevated winter storm activity in the first quarter. We also continue to expect diluted net income per share of $2.20-$2.90 and return on equity of 24%-30%. Our modeling assumptions continue to include an effective tax rate of 21% and weighted average diluted shares outstanding of 14.8 million. The operating drivers we control are on track. With the most active months of hurricane season ahead and competitive conditions evolving, we believe maintaining our current ranges is appropriate. We remain confident in our full-year outlook. The second quarter demonstrates the earning power of the business we have built. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:09:16Our New York franchise is growing, our operating platform is converting that growth into earnings, and our reinsurance and capital position support disciplined expansion. Our second-half priorities are clear. Grow New York while protecting rate adequacy, build California deliberately, launch Connecticut on schedule, and continue translating profitable growth into earnings and book value per share. I remain confident in Kingstone's trajectory because the drivers are clear. Disciplined pricing and risk selection, strong producer relationships, expense control, and prudent capital management. I want to thank the entire Kingstone team for their execution and our select producers for their continued partnership. With that, I'll turn the call over to Randy for a more detailed review of our financial results. Randy? Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:10:15Thank you, Meryl. Good morning again, everyone. From a net income and EPS standpoint, the second quarter was our most profitable quarter in company history, with net income of $15.5 million and EPS of $1.05 per diluted share, compared with $11.3 million or $0.78 per diluted share in the same quarter prior year. Operating net income increased 41% to $15.3 million, and diluted operating net income per share was $1.04 in the second quarter of 2026, compared with $0.75 in the prior year quarter. Annualized GAAP return on equity was 50.8% during the second quarter of 2026. As a reminder, the second quarter is typically our most profitable quarter. Net premiums earned increased 31% to $60.5 million in the second quarter of 2026, primarily reflecting continued growth in direct premiums written along with the reduced quota share cession. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:11:09Our New York quota share cession is 5% for the 2026 treaty year, a decrease of 11 percentage points from 16% in the 2025 treaty year, allowing us to retain more premium and underwriting profit. Direct premiums written increased 19% to $72.5 million and policies in force increased 9.9% to 84,570. Net investment income increased 49% to $3.4 million in the second quarter of 2026 compared with the same quarter prior year, driven by an increase in invested assets and higher average yields that increased to 4.4%. Total investments were $334.1 million at June 30th, up $24.4 million from year-end. Turning to underwriting, the GAAP net loss ratio was 39.6%, compared with 38.8% in the prior year quarter. The catastrophe loss ratio was -0.8%, compared with 0.6% in the prior year quarter. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:12:08Favorable development on our first quarter 2026 catastrophe losses exceeded the low catastrophe losses experienced during the second quarter of 2026, producing the negative ratio. Separately, we recognized 2.7 points of favorable prior year reserve development related to accident years before 2026. Excluding both cat losses and favorable prior year reserve development, the underlying performance of the book was strong in the second quarter of 2026, with an underlying loss ratio of 43.1%. This compares with 38.7% underlying loss ratio in the second quarter of 2025, a quarter when the underlying performance of book was also exceptionally strong. The net underwriting expense ratio improved 2.1 points to 30.6%, as net premiums earned grew faster than our expense base. Together, the GAAP net combined ratio improved 1.3 points to 70.2%. The underlying combined ratio was 73.7%, compared with 71.4% in the prior year quarter. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:13:09The absolute level of profitability remained strong. The expense ratio improvement demonstrates the scalability of the business. For the first six months of 2026, direct premiums written increased 19% to $142.1 million, and net premiums earned increased 30% to $116.3 million. Despite elevated winter catastrophe activity in the first quarter of 2026, costing about $14 million in losses, we generated net income of $9.7 million, or $0.66 per diluted share, and operating net income of $10.3 million or $0.70 per diluted share in the first half of 2026. The first half of 2026 GAAP net combined ratio was 90.2%, compared with 82.3% in the prior year period. Included 12 points of catastrophe losses, compared with 1.2 points in the first half last year. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:14:05The underlying combined ratio improved 1.3 points to 80.7%, and the underwriting expense ratio improved 1.5 points to 30.5% in the first half of 2026 compared with the first half of 2025, reflecting the strength and the performance of the underlying book of business. At June 30th, diluted book value per share was $8.69, up 35% from $6.44 a year ago. Diluted book value per share excluding accumulated other comprehensive income was $9.27, up 32% from $7.04 a year ago. With no holding company debt, our capital position continues to be strong, supporting both profitable expansion and measured shareholder returns. During the quarter, we repurchased approximately 19,500 shares at an average price of $14.98 per share under the program our board authorized in May. Following quarter-end, our board increased the quarterly dividend by 20% to $0.06 per share just one year after reinstating it. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:15:08We will continue to allocate capital to support our strategic growth plans while maximizing long-term shareholder value. With that, operator, we are ready for questions. Operator00:15:20Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question-and-answer session. To ask a question at this time, you may press star one from your telephone keypad, and a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to withdraw your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. We'll pause a moment to poll for questions, once again, it's star one. Thank you. Our first question is from the line of Bob Farnam with Brean Capital. Please proceed with your questions. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:16:02Hi there. Good morning. I've got a couple of kind of quick questions and one kind of overlooking question. On the quick questions, your expense ratio improved to 30.6%, and you're talking about how it's going to improve as the company scales. Do you have any idea of where that expense ratio could fall to when you get up to kind of full speed over the next few years? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:16:31Sure. We're thinking we could take about a point out of the expense ratio. Our interim goal is something like a 29%. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:16:44Okay, 29%. When you're looking to write business, it has to meet your profitability expectations. Can you describe kind of what you're looking for when you are writing business, what your profitability targets are? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:04Well, we're pricing for an 85% combined, that's our profitability expectation over time. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:17:11Okay. 85% combined is Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:14Over time. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:17:14Yeah. Okay. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:15Yeah. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:17:17I guess the more encompassing one is more competition. I know you offered quite a bit on competition. I kind of wanted to know the differences. I'm assuming there's a difference between the California competition and the New York competition because California's mostly E&S, New York is admitted, but it sounds like admitteds are getting into California as well. Are those admitteds the same admitteds that you face in New York, or are they a different cohort of admitteds trying to get into California at this point? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:17:47Sure. Perhaps I wasn't clear what I was saying. In California, the admitted carriers had stopped writing new business to a large extent over the past couple of years because of the regulatory environment. There has been a surge in volume on the E&S side. Certainly, we expected a lot of new carriers in the E&S space because we had heard about that. What we had not anticipated in California was that the admitted carriers, the largest writers of homeowners in California Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:18:28To reopen for business. We are starting to see that in the marketplace, that is something we had not anticipated. The difference is, in New York, the admitted carriers, the top 10 carriers, to a large extent, avoid catastrophe-exposed property. Our competition are the companies that focus on catastrophe-exposed property. In New York, there is one E&S writer, but most of the companies Actually, maybe two. Most of the companies are admitted. In California, our competition is both, now, the admitted and the E&S carriers. Does that answer your question, Bob? Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:19:20Yes. The admitted carriers in California, you're talking the large companies like State Farm and Farmers and whatnot. They're not avoiding getting into the catastrophe exposure? I know that the regulator was basically saying these companies have to write some high-risk policies to be able to write in the state. They're not avoiding the wildfire-exposed areas like they are avoiding the coastal areas in New York. Is that what you're saying? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:19:51Well, first of all, it's certainly not State Farm that I'm talking about. There is, in California, something called the Sustainable Insurance Strategy, Companies who file that they will write some more wildfire business. They get access to forward-looking wildfire models and to include reinsurance in their pricing and other things. We're still seeing that admitted carriers have a limited appetite, particularly for business that is exposed to wildfire. We just had not anticipated that they would start writing business again, because so many of them were very restrictive until recently. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:20:43Right. Okay. All right. You're talking about the growth moderating in New York in the second half of the year. You're talking about increased competition. Is that new competition or is that same kind of a similar thing? You're getting companies that had been there, stopped writing, and now they're slowly but surely dipping their toe back into the water? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:21:06Yeah, I mean, it's really both. Look, it's not a surprise. We all knew that the soft market is coming. What we did see in July, we saw a tick down in our new business for dwelling fire. From talking to agents, they're just talking more now about the softer market. There have been a few new market entrants and existing competitors have loosened some of their guidelines. There is one company that is priced in a really irrational way, We hope they figure that out sooner rather than later. Listen, I want to reiterate that Kingstone has a unique position in the downstate New York market. We have broad and deep distribution, and those agencies have stuck with us through various market cycles. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:21:54We have our Select product that does a great job with risk selection and matching rate to risk, which is even more important in a soft market. We have low expenses. I feel very confident we're going to continue to grow, but perhaps modestly slower than we have been. Again, it's just a different part of the cycle, and we'll do our best. Bob FarnamAnalyst at Brean Capital00:22:16All right. Thanks for the color. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:22:19Our pleasure. Operator00:22:22The next question is from the line of Cam Bianchi with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your questions. Cam BianchiEquity Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:22:28Morning. This is Cam on for Paul. Considering the expense ratio improvement you saw in the quarter, I'm wondering, does the 30% quota share on the new California book create any near-term expense ratio drag if that state ramps that would offset any New York-driven efficiency gains? I know you mentioned about 29% is the target there, but just curious if that California book has any offset in there. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:22:54Yeah. Thanks for your question. Right now, California is such a small piece of the pie. Even by the end of this year, it's going to be way less than 5% of our total business. The 30% quota share was really intended just for risk aversion. We wanted to make sure that we didn't have a material impact on our profitability. To answer your question, it has zero, really no impact on the expense ratio at all. Cam BianchiEquity Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:23:28Got it. Understood. Then, I guess just looking forward a little bit, once the California book ramps up a little bit, and maybe just on the road to that, how are you guys prioritizing capital deployment between California and Connecticut expansion, increasing the dividend, and opportunistic repurchases? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:23:51Randy, I'll let you take that. Randy PattenVP and CFO at Kingstone Companies00:23:53Sure. Yeah. Our capital allocation really remains the same even entering California. Our priorities are, first, to fund that possible growth, and we've rebuilt surplus here over the last couple of years. We're focused on growing that quarterly dividend. In the past quarter, our board did increase our dividend by 20% to $0.06 per share. Third, looking at when the opportunities present themselves, we will repurchase shares. Really in that order. Cam BianchiEquity Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:24:25Fantastic. Thank you. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:24:29Thank you. Operator00:24:31The next question is from the line of Greg Fortunoff, private investor. Please just use your question. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:24:38Hi, Greg. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:24:38Good morning. Hi, how are you? Great number. It sounds like the market's getting a little soft, but when you figured your numbers earlier in the year, were you considering that or is that something that could affect what you're thinking going forward? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:00Yeah. If you're talking about our guidance on growth in particular, we did. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:25:05Yeah Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:05A softer market in the second half of the year. The range is 16%-20%, and year-to-date, we're at 19%, so we'll have to see how it goes. Right now, we're comfortable reaffirming our guidance. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:25:23Okay. Is it wrong to think that assume, aside from any catastrophes that might hit, that this earnings is a new run rate for us, or am I getting too far ahead of myself? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:40Are you saying for Q2? Our Q2 earnings? Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:25:44Right. I know the second quarter is always the best quarter, That being said, if you go through the third quarter with no major storms and nothing out of the ordinary on the regular claims, should this be the run rate that we're expecting? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:25:59Yeah. I would say that our underlying combined ratio, so if you take out cat loss and the favorable prior year development, that is the run rate we're expecting. In our guidance, we split it between the underlying, which are all the things that we control, and that's a combined ratio of 74%-76%, and then the cat loss. Yes, I would say that the run rate is consistent with the guidance that we put out in March. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:26:40Okay. I understand that, except I'll just press you a little bit more to say, if you make $1.05 this quarter and then you make $1.05 next quarter, you're basically at your low end, and then it's just the fourth quarter to see how much you beat it by. You're being pretty conservative. Is that fair or no? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:27:03Listen, we want our guidance to be accurate and durable, and while we feel very positive about our outlook, it is just the very beginning of the hurricane season, and Q3 is typically a quarter where we see sizable catastrophe losses. With the change in the competitive environment, I just thought it was most prudent to maintain our guidance until we had better visibility into the rest of the year. I hope you're right, Greg. I hope we're at the very high end and we can update guidance next quarter. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:27:44All right, two more quick questions. When you talk about the competition, obviously it takes time for policies to roll off. People can't just leave mid-policy and write a new policy with someone else. I mean, when will we see the effects of what might be some competition? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:28:01Yeah. Typically in a soft market, we want to retain our renewals, and consumers generally are much more price sensitive when on new business than they are on renewal business. I think what we're most likely to see is a decline in new business writings rather than any impact on the renewal rates. Time will tell. It really depends on how aggressive the competition is. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:28:35Okay. You're expecting more of a moderation new business versus our current book. Okay. Understand. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:28:40Yeah. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:28:40This is my last question. In the past, you've told us what our maximum loss would be in the case of a Sandy or some major storm. Has that changed since we wrote the new reinsurance policy, or is that similar to, I think you had said maybe $5 million-ish or somewhere around that number? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:28:59Yeah. We had this very successful placement this year, we were able to retain our low first event retention across all perils. Our first event retention is $3.5 million for wildfire, $4.75 million for named storm like a Sandy, then winter storm and severe convective storm is $6 million. In the past, we've talked about, let's take if a storm like Sandy hit us today with our current footprint, it would cost us roughly $5 million, $4.7 million pretax, $4 million after tax, and about $0.27 per diluted share. It is certainly just an earnings event for Kingstone, not a capital event. To your question, Greg, nothing has changed. We've maintained that same very conservative first event retention to protect our surplus. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:06Yeah. I guess to think if you could only lose $0.27 in a major storm, that lets you sleep at night, I imagine. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:14Absolutely. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:16Okay. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:16I'll need that. Yeah. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:16Thank you very much, Meryl. Good work. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:19Thanks, Greg. Greg FortunoffShareholder at Private Investor00:30:20Thank you very much. Operator00:30:23The next question is in the line of Gabriel McClure with Private Investor. Please proceed with your questions. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:29Hi, Gabe. Gabriel McClureShareholder at Private Investor00:30:31Hi, good morning, and congrats on another record quarter. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:35Thank you. Gabriel McClureShareholder at Private Investor00:30:41When you were talking about the policies in force growth, you threw a number out there. I just wanted to make sure I heard you right because on the presser it said that there's a 9.9% growth. Could you repeat that again, please? Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:30:59I don't recall talking about policy in force growth. I said new business for the quarter was up 35%, retention was up 2%, and our average premium was up 8%. We are really delighted that our policy in force growth was up almost 10% quarter-over-quarter. You're right, what's in the press release is correct. Gabriel McClureShareholder at Private Investor00:31:30Okay. That's all for me. Thanks. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:31:33Okay. Our pleasure. Operator00:31:37As a reminder, press star one to ask a question. Thank you. At this time, I'll turn the floor back to Meryl for closing comments. Meryl GoldenPresident and CEO at Kingstone Companies00:31:48Terrific. Thank you so much for your interest in Kingstone, and thanks for joining us today. Have a wonderful day. Operator00:31:55This will conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines at this time.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesStefan NorbomInvestor Relations RepresentativeMeryl GoldenPresident and CEORandy PattenVP and CFOAnalystsBob FarnamAnalyst at Brean CapitalCam BianchiEquity Research Analyst at Piper SandlerGreg FortunoffShareholder at Private InvestorGabriel McClureShareholder at Private InvestorPowered by