Quilter H1 2026 Earnings Report

Quilter EPS Results

• Actual EPS: GBX 3.30
• Consensus EPS: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Quilter Revenue Results

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Quilter Announcement Details

• Quarter: H1 2026
• Date: 8/6/2026
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Thursday, August 6, 2026
• Conference Call Time: 3:00AM ET

Quilter (LON:QLT) is a leading UK-focused full-service wealth manager, providing advice-led investment solutions and investment platform services to over 500,000 clients. Its purpose is to create brighter financial futures for every generation. Quilter strives to do this through supporting long-term advice-based relationships, delivering good investment management performance while maintaining consistently high-quality customer service. It has leading positions in one of the world’s largest wealth markets, and its multi-channel distribution, award-winning platform and investment solutions are delivering attractive growth.

Quilter H1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: Record core net flows reached £6 billion, up 32% year over year, while net flows rose to 9% of opening assets. Gross flows increased to £11.9 billion, reflecting continued momentum across the platform, solutions and high-net-worth businesses.
• Positive Sentiment: Adjusted profit rose 12% to £112 million and EPS increased 13%, supported by 12% revenue growth and a 16% increase in net management fees. The company also reported a strong solvency position and has completed nearly 70% of its £100 million share buyback.
• Neutral Sentiment: The operating margin held at 30% despite inflation, lower interest income and elevated investment in technology, data, branding and distribution. Full-year costs are expected at £530 million–£540 million, likely toward the upper end, although management retains a long-term ambition to reach margins in the mid-30s.
• Positive Sentiment: Quilter highlighted strong competitive positions, including an 18% share of platform gross new business and a 13% share of the MPS market. Management expects peer-leading net flows above its previous 45% ambition for the foreseeable future and anticipates second-half adjusted profit to be mid-single-digit percentage points above the first half, assuming steady markets.
• Neutral Sentiment: Management said advisor churn has not materially increased despite heightened competition, but acknowledged that platform pricing remains competitive and client-asset tiering continues to pressure revenue margins. Quilter is investing in AI and an adviser technology ecosystem to improve productivity and reduce servicing costs, while noting that the newer Quilter Invest proposition is a long-term, early-stage opportunity.

Presentation

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Good morning everyone, welcome to our 2026 interim results. If you haven't already seen it in the wild, I hope you enjoyed the intro with our new TV ad for Money Needs a Plan. Onto business. I'll start with a review of the first half highlights and our flow performance. Mark will take us through the financials. I'll conclude with a growth outlook for our business and why we are very well-placed. I'll take questions. I'm very pleased with our performance in the first half of 2026. Core net flows were up to a record GBP 6 billion. That's up over 30% on last year, and 2025 was a record too. We've accelerated further from a strong base. Net flows were 9% of opening assets, up a percentage point on last year, despite the sharp increase in assets from market growth.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Our operating margin was stable at 30%, despite elevated business investment and lower interest rates reducing the income we generated on shareholder capital. Adjusted profit increased 12% to GBP 112 million. Good momentum and a strong result. Earnings per share increased 13%. Board has declared an interim dividend of GBP 0.021, a third of last year's total dividend, in line with our revised distribution policy. We're progressing well with our share buyback program. We're just under 70% done, with the remainder to be completed before the end of the year. Let's turn to the detail of flows, starting with a group picture. This slide shows the trend in gross new business, outflows, and net inflows for the first half over the last four years.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Gross flows of GBP 11.9 billion in 2026 on the left continue to demonstrate the strong business momentum with compound growth of 29% over the last three years. 2026 gross flows were more than double 2023. The strength of our dual-channel model is clear. Outflows in the middle have been broadly consistent over the period, we've seen an excellent growth in net flows on the right where the compound growth rate is over 100%. Net inflows of 9% of opening assets are up a percentage point on last year. You don't need me to tell you that this is peer-leading performance. These strong flows are no accident. They're the direct result of the strategic progress we've made, building great propositions and investing in distribution. That's why I believe the momentum we are delivering is sustainable. I'll say more about this later.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Let me drill a little deeper into flows by proposition. The message you should take away from this is that we're delivering excellent franchise growth and market leadership. Let's start with the platform. Our assets under administration currently stand at GBP 118 billion. That's up from GBP 69 billion in June 2023, a compound growth rate of 19%. Over the same period, our platform gross new business flows have grown by around 140%, from GBP 4 billion to just under GBP 10 billion, with our market share of new business rising to 18% from 12%. That has driven a high single-digit compound growth rate in fee income and an acceleration in fee income growth over the last year to 17%. I'm often asked what drives this improved performance, this slide gives some context.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

First, our Quilter advisers have become more productive and are increasingly aligned to delivering our platform and our solutions. The graph on the left shows that while the number of advisers in our network has been largely stable over the last few years, their productivity has improved significantly from GBP 2.7 million a year to GBP 3.9 million per adviser. That has meant that the amount of new business they generate onto our platform has increased by around 70% over the period. Secondly, we have broadened and deepened our relationship with IFA firms. That reflects market recognition of the quality of our propositions. The graph on the right breaks down IFA firms by the amount of flow they generate onto our platform. The two key takeaways are the absolute number of firms generating significant flow has increased, and we are seeing faster growth from firms generating higher flows.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Let me just focus on the ones that are growing the fastest. In 2023, we had 100 firms generating over GBP 10 million of flows. In 2025, we had 252, a 152% increase. That momentum has continued to build this year, which is why we continue to see the strong growth in new business flows. It is clear that this flow performance comes from a position of market leadership. We are the largest and fastest growing platform amongst the large advised industry players. We have shown this slide before, and we have updated it for the first quarter data, the most recent we have got for the whole industry. From the Q2 reporting we have seen to date, this is a trend that is continuing. The vertical axis is the first quarter gross new business flows in billions.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

The horizontal axis is the net flows as a percentage of opening assets, platform size is represented by the size of the bubble. The market is clearly consolidating by flows into a handful of winners. The net flows into the top three platforms have averaged over 100% of total industry flows for the last three years. As you can see, we are the market leader. Not surprisingly, our performance is recognized by industry observers. The quote at the top is from Fundscape, whose detailed research on the platform industry earlier this year highlighted Quilter as one of their expected industry winners. Turning to our solutions business, we have built the leading fund manager for advised platform flows. We offer both MPS and fund of fund solutions, with MPS increasingly the preferred investment vehicle for most of the industry.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

As you can see, we have delivered compound growth of 37% in our WealthSelect MPS since June 2023. Our market share of industry assets in the green bubbles has continued to grow. On the right, you can see a marked pickup in revenues this year. What is clear is that our solutions revenues have been held back in recent years by assets switching from active to passive and fund of funds into MPS, in line with industry trends. Today, the impact of that has largely worked itself through. Going forward, we expect revenue growth to correlate more strongly with asset growth. If we dig a bit deeper into MPS, here too, we enjoy market leadership. This slide shows the larger MPS players across the industry at the end of Q1, the most up-to-date industry data. We are clearly the largest and again, one of the fastest-growing.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

The story behind flows into our MPS is not just about distribution through our own advisors. It may not be widely appreciated, our MPS was originally built to meet the needs of independent financial advisors. In fact, around 56% of our MPS assets are from our IFA distribution channel. This product is clearly meeting the needs of this market. Turning now to Quilter Cheviot. We've had a strong start to the year. AUM has grown by 11% compound over the last three years. Gross new business inflows have been trending up nicely. You can see the pickup this year. Overall, they've increased by 16% compound since 2023, and we've grown revenues by 5% compound over that time. Again, we've seen a marked pickup over the last 12 months. I believe we can do more.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

I want to achieve a net inflow rate of at least mid-single digit levels and an operating margin in the mid-20s. We're applying the lessons learned from repositioning of our platform and solutions businesses to these operations. We've sharpened our position in the market, supported by new propositions. Earlier this year, we've successfully restructured the financial planning force in Quilter Cheviot to drive advisor productivity, and we're starting to see the benefits of this. Of course, we'll continue to invest to make this a stronger business, with the acquisition of GillenMarkets an example of that. In conclusion, we've got an incredibly strong, fast-growing franchise, and we're the market leader in places where scale matters. As you can see from the stats on this slide, virtually all the flows generated from our advisor network go onto our platform.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Across the top 30 IFA firms using our platform, our market share of new business has increased by 22 percentage points, and that's why we're taking about 50% of the total net flows being generated across the industry. In Quilter Solutions, we've now got 13% of the MPS market, and Quilter Cheviot remains number one in net flows versus our listed peers. We're seeing increasing market consolidation of flows into a handful of the strongest industry players, a breakaway pack, if you will, and Quilter is the leader of that pack. Right, over to Mark for the financials.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Thank you, Steven, and good morning, everyone. We delivered continued strong financial performance in the first half of 2026. Let me start with three key messages. One, we achieved revenue growth of 12%. That was driven by excellent growth of 16% in net management fees and 6% growth in other revenue, with that partly offset by lower interest income on shareholder capital. Two, costs are in line with the guidance I set out in March, as we continue to invest in the growth of the business. Three, our balance sheet remains in very good shape, with a strong solvency position and healthy level of holding company cash. Let's get into the detail with my usual analysis of our P&L dynamics. Starting top left, core net flows of GBP 6 billion were, as you heard from Steven, 32% higher than an already strong comparator in 2025.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Flows in positive markets meant that average AUMA was up 21%. Top right, you can see revenues grew 12% to GBP 379 million. Costs, bottom left, were up 13% to GBP 267 million, reflecting inflation and business investment. As a result, adjusted profit increased by 12% to GBP 112 million, with a stable operating margin of 30%. We reported adjusted diluted earnings per share of GBP 0.061, an increase of 13%. Let's now turn to revenue by segment. In the affluent segment, revenues grew 13%, a good performance. Pleasingly, net management fees were higher on both administered and managed assets, growing 17% and 21% respectively. Margins were in line with guidance, and as a reminder, revenue margin attrition in the affluent businesses has resulted from three advisor and client-led factors.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

First, in our solutions business, the success of WealthSelect reflects what has been a market-wide shift from fund of funds towards MPS. Second, in the platform, our strong flows from both large IFAs and Quilter partner firms are generally at a lower margin than stock. Third, as average client holdings on the platform have also grown around 50% over the last three years to around GBP 210,000 today, together with the effect of family linking, the impact of tiered client charges has reduced the margin. These dynamics are positive outcomes for the business. More customers and more money on both the platform and in our solutions, which has driven the year-on-year growth in net management fees. Our high net worth revenues also achieved good growth. Net management fees grew 12% to GBP 111 million, and advice fees grew 20% to GBP 12 million.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Revenue margins in high net worth were near stable year-on-year. The revenue margin will be higher than the affluent platform and solutions business lines by nature of the more bespoke, higher touch proposition. Turning now to costs. I'm pleased to report that the group operating margin remained flat, even while total costs increased year-on-year as we invested in the future growth of the business. The table on the left is our usual first half 2026 on first half 2025 comparison. The waterfall on the right summarizes the main cost changes from H2 2025, as my cost guidance for this year was based off the second half 2025 run rate. The main cost changes in the first half of the year came from inflation and investment into the business.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

These included costs associated with building out our data and technology functionality and continued support to grow our brand presence, Quilter Invest, and the Quilter Academy. Reductions principally came from the final benefits of our simplification program, which we completed at the end of 2025. In terms of my expectations for the full year, I continue to be comfortable with the cost guidance I provided back in March. This gets you to a figure somewhere between GBP 530 million-GBP 540 million, with the actual outcome likely towards the higher end of the range, provided market sensitive revenues remain at current levels. Again, I underline that the current rate of investment, excluding acquisition activity, won't increase to this extent every year. Our longer term guidance of inflation, plus a few percentage points, remains unchanged.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

I firmly believe that we should be able to get our operating margin to the mid-30s, though I'm not putting a timeline to that. Putting the segment's revenues and group costs together, this slide shows the segmental contribution to group profitability. In affluence, we maintained strong growth trajectory with profit up 9% to GBP 86 million, and high net worth delivered profit of GBP 29 million, up a very healthy 21% year-on-year. The operating margin improved by two percentage points in high net worth. In affluent, the operating margin declined by one percentage point as it incurred most of the increased branding and other investment costs. As we've underlined before, this part of our business is very scalable, so ultimately we expect an improvement in operating margin over time.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Across the business, we know there is more operating leverage to come as we focus on the management of our cost base alongside strategic investment to drive growth and further efficiency. Let me turn to the balance sheet. As you'd expect, we've maintained a strong solvency ratio and cash position. The solvency ratio increased marginally over the period, with financing costs and the interim dividend offset by IFRS profit and the benefit of market variances. In terms of cash, we returned GBP 54 million in the period through the share buyback program, and we made capital contributions of GBP 71 million, reflecting the cost of funding the EBT, as well as our ongoing investment within the business to support our distribution capabilities. This was offset by cash remittances from subsidiaries.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

On the right, you can see we've got around GBP 360 million of cash available before the payments of the interim dividend and the conclusion of the GBP 100 million share buyback program. That leaves us with a sensible buffer to cover contingencies, liquidity management, and business investment while retaining balance sheet optionality. Our balance sheet remains in good shape. The board declared an interim dividend of GBP 0.021 per share. That's a third of last year's total cash dividend, in line with our revised distribution policy. That represents an increase of 5% on the 2025 interim dividend. As at the 31st of July, we'd completed over GBP 68 million of the GBP 100 million surplus capital being returned via share buyback this year. Let me conclude with our usual guidance slide. As you'll notice, we have updated our long-term guidance on net flows.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

We are frequently asked if the 45% ambition for the group remains relevant, as our flow performance over the past three years has seen us continually exceed that guidance. We've materially beaten that again this reporting period. From the position of strength we have placed ourselves in, our expectation is that we should continue to achieve peer-leading net flows, which we expect to be above 45% for the foreseeable future. More broadly, our expectation is for the operating environment in the second half of 2026 to remain constructive, and our revenue margin guidance is unchanged. I spoke earlier in detail about cost expectations for the remainder of the year. We anticipate a higher revenue contribution in the second half from the benefit of our first half flow's momentum and positive markets.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Assuming steady markets, we currently anticipate that second-half adjusted profit will be around a mid-single-digit percentage point above that of the first half. Let me finish by summarizing my three key points from our results. First, we delivered solid growth in overall revenue, driven by increased net management fees. Second, costs are in line with guidance as we continue to support investment for future growth with a stable operating margin. Thirdly, our balance sheet remains in very good shape, providing a strong base to support our growth ambitions as well as provide returns to shareholders. With that, let me hand back to Steven.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thank you, Mark. I'll kick off this last section with a reminder: everything at Quilter starts with advice. As our new TV advert shows, we firmly believe that Money Needs a Plan. We cover the waterfront of U.K. advice wealth through two customer propositions, our scaled platform and market-leading MPS, together with our fund-of-fund solutions, and a bespoke investment service built around high-touch relationships provided by our investment managers, who offer personalized portfolios in Quilter Cheviot.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Across our scaled businesses, our platform has delivered net inflows of 10% of opening assets over the last two years, with AUA up 28% over the last 12 months. Our solutions business has also delivered a 28% increase in AUM over the last year, with net inflows equivalent to 10% of opening assets. Our bespoke proposition, which is inherently less scalable given its high-touch nature, delivered a 17% increase in AUM.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

As I covered earlier, we are leaders in a market that has strong growth potential, as independent data on this slide shows. Fundscape expect the platform industry to grow at 13% compound to 2030. With industry assets increasingly concentrating into a handful of leaders, we expect to outperform that growth rate. As you can see on the right, the discretionary wealth industry is expected to grow at around 6% compound over the same period. Here, too, we expect to outperform.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

The four key drivers underpinning this growth are increase in consolidation of flows in the industry to a handful of market leaders, the need to encourage a higher level of investment by U.K. households to ensure a good standard of living and retirement, a widening of the remit of the advice industry to help create a nation of investors through Targeted Support, simplified advice, and improvements in adviser productivity, and the expected level of intergenerational wealth transfer over the next 20-30 years, with financial advice needed to support this happening in a tax-efficient manner. We've got a strong competitive position in a market with a huge growth opportunity. That's an attractive position to be in. We see significant opportunity from investment in technology and AI tools to drive our business harder.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

There are two areas of focus: improving adviser productivity, which will bring more assets onto our platform and into our solutions, and re-engineering our business to drive down the cost of serving clients. As you saw from the first part of my presentation, our work to improve adviser productivity has delivered clear improvement in flows. We've now rolled out market-leading AI tools, which are saving advisers time, improving their efficiency, supporting better client journeys, and more accurate targeting. The next stage is the end-to-end adviser ecosystem that I told you about back in March. We'll be rolling this out over the next 12 months or so. This will help adviser firms to run more profitably and serve more clients, and will help our clients, enhancing their experience with smoother, more intuitive digital advice.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

The goal is full end-to-end technology integration between our platform and the tools that the advisers need and seamless client data management. Secondly, we can improve operationally across Quilter. While both our platform and solutions businesses are already highly scalable, the technology investments we're making will make them even more so, reducing the marginal cost of managing incremental assets. We're embedding AI across our entire business. Let me conclude with our equity story.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Quilter is the market leader with compelling propositions in an attractive market with structural growth opportunities. Our dual channel distribution model is translating this into peer-leading flow performance. Flows are concentrating in the winners, which supports our operating margin progression. Technology and AI investments offer further opportunities for efficiency and the potential to drive operating margin to at least the mid-30s in time. We're confident that we will continue to deliver attractive returns for shareholders. Thank you. Let's open up to questions.

[Company Representative at Quilter]

Okay. We'll go to questions now, and we'll start with questions on the lines before taking any questions on the web. Operator, can we take the first question on the telephones, please?

[Operator]

Thank you. First question is from Andrew Lowe with Citi. Please go ahead.

[Andrew Lowe, Analyst at Citi]

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. There has been lots of noise about increasing competition for advisors in the first half of the year. What are you seeing here? Have you been losing any advisors to Söderberg, who seem to be making headlines about their hiring? If you could quantify what your advisor churn is within your restricted financial planning business, that would be really helpful and just help us to understand how H1 compares to prior years. That'd be great. Thanks.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thanks, Andy. Look, the market is a competitive market and always has been. We have not seen any material change in our churn rates, more advisors leaving us. We've guided before that we're not going to give the exact number. We've guided before that it's around 10%, of advisors leave through retirements and through moves in the market in a year. We have shown good net growth over the last reporting period as we have prior. That comes through our advisor academy and through the net advisor recruitment that we're doing. We have a net positive advisor recruitment of bringing in experienced advisors as well to our business. We're not seeing any material changes to the behaviors that we have seen in the past.

[Andrew Lowe, Analyst at Citi]

Great. Thanks so much.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Next question.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is from Ben Bathurst from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

[Ben Bathurst, Analyst at RBC Capital Markets]

Morning. Thanks for taking my question. Actually, in two areas, if I may. Just starting on capacity. Thanks for the disclosure in terms of the growth in number of IFA firms that you're working with on slide seven. Presumably, there's also an opportunity for you to improve the concentration of assets that you manage typically for IFAs. I wondered if you could just give an idea around where that sits currently and where you think it might be able to get to. Is the scope, do you think, for MPS to catch up with the platform in terms of the typical concentration?

[Ben Bathurst, Analyst at RBC Capital Markets]

Secondly, if I may, on FY 2026 guidance, I just wondered to what extent does the guidance that you've given this morning incorporate scope to revisit the economics of the client cash and discretionary portfolios in Quilter Cheviot, just in the way that we've seen some of your DFM peers announce in recent months? Are there any moving parts there that we should be aware of? Thank you.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thanks, Ben. I'll take those questions. The first question, in terms of, we use the term capacity. We talk about share of wallet and market share. We're very pleased with how we're doing in the IFA space. You can see our market share improving and has been over multiple time periods. One of the things that's really a big focus for us is becoming the primary platform for more and more advisors. You can see from some of the data that we've shown, that slide that you referred to, does show how we are starting to increase significantly the number of large advisors using our platform, and that is a sort of a deeper share of wallet. We still think there's a lot of opportunity to go further there. That job is not done.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

That has built a very good base for us, and I think that bodes really well for the future because those advisors, once advisors have really adopted you as their primary platform and are putting 40%, 50%, 60%, 70% of their market share using you as their core, they really build their business and their processes around your platform. It's quite hard to unseat them, and that's why we've worked so hard at that, because we think it is a great position to be in. We do, to be clear, that is still a big focus of ours, to carry on, to become the primary platform for even more advisors. There are advisors where we're the second or the third choice, and obviously our sales team's focus is to make our platform the first choice for those advisors.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

In terms of the MPS market shares, the MPS market shares are set 13%, I guess. You're talking about the platform at 18%. I think realistically, that number will be lower than the platform one. We do want to drive it higher, and we think that we can. Some of the very large advice firms will run their own models and will run their own MPS offerings and things like that. That is one of the areas that they will then not outsource. The medium size and the small size firms, absolutely, that is the core market for products like WealthSelect, and we do phenomenally well. We're continuing to push that upwards.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Because there are a group of advisors who are specifically part of their strategy and the large ones of running their own MPS models for their core clients, I don't think you'll ever be able to catch the MPS share to the platform market share. I apologize. The next question. Sorry, Ben. The next question was about the guidance and specifically about the cash in QC. Maybe just to take that question in full and then I'll come to the guidance part of it. In terms of client cash, in quote, "the caveat," first of all, we're very comfortable with the value that we provide to our clients. We think we have an excellent outcome to clients. If you look at the rates that clients get, including with any charges that there are on cash. We're very transparent in also how we disclose things.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

We are reviewing some of the stuff that the FCA has said in terms of their positioning, in terms of the consultation paper that they've got out, and we're looking at some of the operational and client impacts of making some tweaks to that model. We are working through that at the moment. From a financial and guidance perspective, we don't expect that any changes will have a material impact at all, and they are included in the guidance.

[Ben Bathurst, Analyst at RBC Capital Markets]

Okay, great. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is from Alex Bowers with KBW. Please go ahead.

[Alex Bowers, Analyst at KBW]

Hi. Just ask a question about the IFA platform space and the level of competition you're seeing in the space and whether there's an impact on pricing, or any pricing changes from any of your competitors in the space. The second question was just on, I think in the statement you kind of flagged the recent change in U.K. political leadership as potentially being speculation ahead of the October budget. Is there anything you can say in addition to that around potential impact of that on kind of flows in H2? Thanks.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thanks, Alex. In terms of competition in the platform space and pricing behavior, it is a competitive market. As we've shown, and you can see from the data yourself, it is a market where clearly winners are emerging. We are the front of that pack, and clearly the winner in the market. That is something that we worked very hard to achieve. It comes down to a range of things. Actually, when you look specifically at what drives customer and advisor behavior, price is not the most important thing. Typically, it is about service, it is about proposition, it is about support. Price is on the list generally, but in most sort of surveys, price will come in at number four on the list, for example. We offer a great value platform.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

I think platforms that just try to pull the price lever, if your proposition doesn't stack up, I don't think that's really going to work and be effective. Obviously it is a sort of competitive market. We think we offer very good value. We're not seeing, I think, any material changes in the behavior because of other competitive activity.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

You've really got to have a good platform to win advisor support. I think also very importantly, since the Consumer Duty and some of the sort of more maturing of the market, actually, advisors are realizing that it is all about value, and value for money, it is a much more complicated nuance than just what is the exact basis point price. I think that is important to understand.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

In terms of the U.K. politics and speculation and impact on flows, look, what we really want is we want stability, and that's why we've made a comment, and we've said that we believe that if you want to encourage an investment in the market and to look after individuals and provide a strong and resilient U.K. economy, I think what you really need is you need consistency and stability. Continuous speculation is very unhelpful and continuous changes in long-term regimes, like pension regimes, which are sort of a long-term commitment, effectively a contract between the sort of government and the citizens about how tax works on pensions. That's not something that should be changed every year or speculated that it's going to be changed every year. That's really important.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Having said that, our business is an advised business, and while we did see an increase last year in outflows at the time of some market speculation because of particularly speculation about the tax-free cash in pensions, you've seen our numbers for last year. Our net numbers were still incredibly strong. I think the D2C businesses find it's a bigger impact than the advised businesses because advisors do talk to their clients, and clients, if they do want to react to something they're reading in the newspaper, which is speculative, advisors, in most cases, are able to explain and sort of give clients the right answer, which is not to act on speculation.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

We, in fact, have published some research, just for interest, where we surveyed a whole lot of people in the pension market, and I think 60 or 2/3 of the people who withdraw money out of their pensions in last year's budget cycle, the speculation regret it. That's really important, but that is what we're talking about. I can't be absolutely certain about what impact there could or may be on flows. I think given our advised business, we're the most resilient to it, but we do strongly encourage stability in the market.

[Alex Bowers, Analyst at KBW]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is from James Allen with Berenberg. Please go ahead.

[James Allen, Analyst at Berenberg]

Hi. Morning, guys. Two questions from me, if I can. First one, how do you measure the return on the increased marketing investment in areas like the Quilter Nations Series, given presumably the returns there are not as easy to measure as if you were a D2C platform, for example, where it's measured based on customer growth? Obviously, you've got the advisors which maybe sit in between. Second question, the MPS market feels like it's becoming more competitive. There are some smaller firms trying to undercut to get their flows moving in the right direction. Is that putting more pressure on fees in the MPS product range than maybe you had seen in previous years?

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Thanks very much, James. It's Mark here. I'll just comment firstly on the marketing spend. Look, the measurement on it, one of the key things that we are doing is trying to get better consumer awareness of our brand. We do look at prompted and unprompted consumer awareness and scores like that, and we can see significant tick-ups. We've had experience of that before. We think that exposure gives us a lot of retail consumer brand awareness. It also helps with persistency and those sort of things. To get down to actual hard numbers, I'm sure you can appreciate, which I think is the point of your question, it's actually very hard to measure in actual absolute terms the sort of data that you can use to measure that. That's how we look at it.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Our brand awareness coming through from it has been exceptionally encouraging. You've got to keep spending in order to keep that brand awareness up, which is what we have had experience on before. You'll remember when we sponsored RFU in 2016 to about 2020, that sort of period. We've got experience of this. We can see how it helps trends improve, both in persistency and in new customer acquisition. It's hard. I can't give you a precise number on it.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thanks, Mark. James, just to add to that, we've got a business called Quilter Invest, which is now in the space of helping customers directly with Targeted Support and things like that. The brand investment, which as Mark says, is the start of a journey. The brand investment will help that business as well, which is really important for us. In terms of your second question about the MPS market and becoming more competitive. Look, we're very comfortable with the strength of our MPS propositions, both in WealthSelect and in QC. We've got very good investment performance. We've been doing this for a long time. The value that we offer is excellent. I think that we're not seeing any specific challenge or pressure on fees. Our MPS actually does offer very good value.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Because of our size and scale, we're able to negotiate very good pricing from the underlying managers, and the customers get the benefit of that. We think that our MPS is offering fantastic value. We do our value assessments every year, and it's got great performance. It's also got very strong reporting, nicely integrated into our platform, all sorts of things. We are very confident about the strength of our MPS propositions. Next question.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is from Christiane Holstein from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

[Christiane Holstein, Analyst at Bank of America]

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. My first one is on advisor productivity. GBP 3.9 billion is quite a strong step up already. I just wanted to ask if this is already the benefits of AI or what else has been driving this? I just wanted to check, do you still continue to expect AI to essentially double advisor productivity over the medium term? My second question was just on some peer commentary that they've been seeing case volumes increase, although case size decline, just driven by the macro and political uncertainty within the U.K. at the moment. I was just wondering how does this compare to what you've been seeing? If you're seeing different, what has been driving this? Thank you.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thanks very much. The advisor productivity number, there is some AI in there, but very small because of terms of when we rolled out some of our AI tools for advisors, which was only at the beginning of this year. That productivity number has been driving up over multiple years. It is mostly down to focusing on quality advisors. It is about some other non-AI changes we've made to advice processes and systems. It is about the back book transfers and getting advisors to focus on consolidating assets from non-Quilter platforms onto Quilter platforms and things like that. That's been the historic driver or drivers of the advisor productivity growth over the last few years.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

We think the AI benefit is still to come and some of the other benefits of the new technology that we're going to be putting in place for advisors, some of which is AI, some of which is not, some is just better process and avoiding rekeying and really simplifying and streamlining advisors' time. The comment about can advisor productivity double. We do believe that that can happen. That's not necessarily in the GBP 3.9 million number. We talk about that in the number of clients that advisors would have, for example. Advisors in the U.K. serve 100-150 clients on average. They spend about two-thirds of their time not in front of clients. Those are some of the stats that are out there.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

We think that with better technology and AI, you can reduce the amount of time that advisors are spending not with clients, and that will give them the opportunities to increase advisor productivity materially. We're not giving an exact number, and the objective is to turn 150 into 180 first and then 200. Those sorts of step ups. 10%, 15%, 20% gains in productivity would be fantastic. Over time, that may amount to a doubling of advisor productivity. The one further point just to point out is I wouldn't do an exact translation from that onto the pound number of advisor productivity because the advisors, as they get more productive, they'll start picking up probably smaller clients and that will be how the advice gap is dealt with.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Serving clients that are currently a bit too small to get face-to-face advice, that's one of the benefits and one of the things that we think will happen. It won't be an exact one-for-one translation when you go into a pound basis, as I'm sure you can imagine. Still, it is a very significant opportunity. It is easier for us to increase advisor productivity by 15% or 20% than to increase advisor numbers, given the lack of advisors in the market as an example. That's why it's such a big focus for us. In terms of your question about case size versus volumes, that was a bit of a surprise to us that, what you're referring to, you saw elsewhere.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

We have seen an increase in both case numbers and in case sizes, and that is what we would've expected, because the vast majority of business in the industry is transfers of existing pension assets. That's about 60% of the flow. Transfers of existing assets are related to market levels, and market levels are up. It should be expected that with rising market levels, people consolidating pensions as they're nearing 50, talking to an advisor, consolidating the pensions they've got from their accumulated all over, scattered around from working lifetimes, getting ready for drawdown. We would expect that those case sizes would be increasing. That is what we have seen.

[Christiane Holstein, Analyst at Bank of America]

Great. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is from Michael Sanderson with Barclays. Please go ahead.

[Michael Sanderson, Analyst at Barclays]

Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Just a couple, if possible. First of all, when we were talking about the margin pieces, you obviously pulled out the three different themes and tiering effects being the last of those. I was wondering, do you quantify or are you able to quantify the impact of tiering effects and if we see another 10% growth in AUA, what that means straight through to the revenue piece if we tried to split out the other pieces that are factoring in the margin at the moment? The second one, you obviously made reference to the Quilter Invest proposition.

[Michael Sanderson, Analyst at Barclays]

Very recently launched, but I guess, from my perspective, just interesting to know early messaging you might say around that, and where we should see that flow through and where you would hope to see that in the various metrics that you're talking to on an ongoing basis, please. Thank you.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Mike, just on the margin and the tiering, and at, what a 10% increase would be. I don't have precise numbers in front of me to actually quote you now. It obviously has a slight impact, and it reduces overall. What we also find is having a sort of quite a big impact in a positive way, or what we certainly see it in a positive way, is the family linking capabilities that we have on our platform. I was quoting earlier on in my script, just some of what's happened to some of the averages across individual accounts. When you put that into the family linked accounts, which actually forms quite a considerable proportion of the book, there you're having some even bigger impacts.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

If we do have another 10% increase in average client levels, well, there'll be a slight reduction in the margin, as a consequence of that. It also sort of depends on the profile of when they actually hit different tiering levels, because they sort of kick in at different asset things. I'm not able to give you a precise number on that at the moment. That's more or less some of the dynamics that we've seen in the tiering.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thank you, Mark. The second question on Quilter Invest. Quilter Invest is something we're really excited about, but it is obviously very early days. We just launched Targeted Support a few months ago. It is something that we are expecting to see grow over time, but ultimately, this is a fledgling operation. In terms of where you will see this in metrics, I think probably just to be realistic, Quilter Invest it's a 10-year strategy for us. It's not something that you're materially going to see over the next one or two or three years, especially given the size of our current established channels, which are very big and very fast-growing.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Quilter Invest is something that's really interesting for us, but you'd need to just understand the context. It's starting out very, very small. When we bought the business, it had a negligible client base. It had a proposition that we are building on and using that as a foundation to build something from. Next question.

[Michael Sanderson, Analyst at Barclays]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is from Greg Simpson with BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

[Greg Simpson, Analyst at BNP Paribas]

Yeah, morning. I guess there still is a bit of a market debate about the impact of AI on financial advice demand. I was wondering if you could maybe talk about the kind of client growth Quilter is currently seeing in percentage terms and maybe the mix of flows between existing and new clients. The second question, there was a recent article about Quilter changing the fee model a little bit for the national advice arm, I think including cutting initial charges by about 1%. I just wanted to check in what drove that decision, and do you think it could impact advisor retention and productivity if they may be earning a bit less for new flows? Thank you.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thanks for those questions. Look, we don't disclose the exact client number growth, but I can tell you that it is very good. In fact, we've added more clients last year than, or this periods, than we did over the prior period. We are continuing to see very strong client growth. We're not seeing an impact of AI on client growth or any of those things. We don't really expect that that's going to become an issue in the future. In terms of the little bit of your other question about the split between new clients and top-ups, it's about half-half in terms of the flows, in terms of where money comes from, sort of money from brand-new clients versus money top-ups and regular investments from existing clients. Your second question was, I forgot to scribble it down.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

QFP fee.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

QFP. Yes. To be honest, actually, that was a very small change that was over-reported by the press. When we made that change, we have a set of tramlines for advisors, and we made some minor tweaks to it. It was reported as we've increased our fees and things, and I think that actually it was a bit of a red herring. It hasn't been a material change.

[Greg Simpson, Analyst at BNP Paribas]

Very clear. Thank you.

[Operator]

Next question is from Vivek Raja from Investec. Please go ahead.

[Vivek Raja, Analyst at Investec]

Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen, for your presentation. I wanted to ask about Targeted Support. Appreciate it's early days. I wonder, what are you doing that you think is different to your competitors in terms of addressing that market opportunity? Also, as the government changes once again, I just wonder, how does sort of your discussion with the policymaker about what they want to achieve with Targeted Support change? How do you think that that might change? Thanks.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Thanks. I'll take those questions. I may answer the second one first. In terms of the new government, look, we believe that the new stakeholders are just as focused as the previous chancellor on growing the number of investors in the country, on the benefits of Targeted Support and really addressing things. We've got consistency in things like the city minister as well, which is helpful and supportive. We haven't heard a lot, but we'd have no indications that there's any difference in focus. I mean, the treasury pushed and supported a retail investment advertising campaign, which we're a part of. Again, we believe that that will continue to be really important, and we hope and look to expect to see the government continue to support things like that.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

I mean, that hasn't directly, we haven't seen anything positive or negative to that, but we have no indications that anything there will change. Certainly, the industry is very committed to continuing to work with government to make sure that we get people to invest more, because that is very good for the country, and it is very good for people and people retiring. In terms of Targeted Support and differences to competitors, look, I don't think there are that many differences. I think most of the companies that are out there doing Targeted Support and those that are still coming are focusing on the cash to investment journey. That seems to be the most prevalent journey. In that journey, it really is about designing a simple process, making sure you screen out people who've got debt and issues where they shouldn't be investing.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

People who've got excess cash to take them through a simple journey to help them invest, figure out how much they can invest, and then help them pick a fund. That's what we're doing, and to be fair, a lot of other people are doing that. Some people have slightly different models. Some people are trying to do it with sort of various screens that you enter it with structured questions. Others are trying with AI chatbot type approaches, et cetera. Ultimately, I mean, the cash to investment and helping a client pick the right risk profiled fund is the predominant Targeted Support use, which is what we're doing. There are some other companies that are doing things in Targeted Support space about pensions, drawdowns, and things that would be more appropriate for D2C businesses or businesses with very big orphan books, which is not us.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Having said that, I mean, we think Targeted Support is a very big opportunity. I don't think it's one where you have to be unique to be able to take advantage of that opportunity. The one thing that we are doing differently that I think is important about Targeted Support, which we've said before, is we are doing this in partnership with advisors. The benefit there is that where a client comes to an advisor and they've got too little money to invest, to get advice, sorry, to get full sort of face-to-face advisor, a client with GBP 20,000, for example, who wants help to invest. What actually, we've built our Targeted Support offering such that advisors can refer them to Quilter Invest. The client can invest that way, but the advisor keeps sight of that client.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

The client will be ring-fenced, and if the client ever wants help, they get referred straight back to that advisor. We guarantee the advisors that we will never try to sort of service those clients on an advised basis because they've introduced them to us, and things like that. Effectively, it's our advisor incubation model, which is getting very positive feedback from our advisors and very good early signs of take-up from advice firms. We think that is something that is compelling and unique about our offering, and one of the things we're excited about.

[Vivek Raja, Analyst at Investec]

Thank you very much.

[Operator]

Thank you. Next question is from David McCann with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

[David McCann, Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Morning, guys. Two questions from me that haven't already been asked. The first one's on the revenue margin guidance. You touched in the remarks, Mark, that the guidance is overall unchanged. If I look at the first half movements in the actual margins achieved, the pace decline did appear to be higher than, say, the one bit that you traditionally have talked about in the admin fees. It was probably more like two bits annualized. Similarly, the solutions margin was close to the low 30s and tracking towards the low 30s.

[David McCann, Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Both have been under a little bit of pressure in the first half. Maybe you can talk about the drivers there that have caused that. Does that one bit guidance in the admin margin, for example, still hold going forward? That's question one. Secondly, within Quilter Cheviot, the number of RFPs reported did fall quite meaningfully in the first half from 64 at the year-end to 47. What's gone on there? Thanks.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Thanks, David. David, on the revenue margin guidance, I mean, the sort of the trend that we've seen is pretty much in line with our guidance, and that's still what we expect, but there obviously are a few factors that'll come into it. I touched on a few of those in the presentation earlier. There are gonna be mix effects, which are often clients and advisor-led, and that's particularly relevant when it comes to the Quilter Invest propositions, whether they're going into WealthSelect or Cirilium, and we've provided quite a bit of disclosures around the various movements over there. That drives quite a bit of that.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Within those, whether it's blend, active, or passive solutions that they're choosing, increasingly, we've been saying this for a while now, we've seen more advisors and clients choosing the blend or the passive solutions within WealthSelect rather than Cirilium active at the other extreme. That does have an impact on the margins overall.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

We're in the sort of the low 30s on that now. I think I had guided towards that sort of level within Quilter Invest for a while now. On the platform, there's probably been a little bit of a pickup, and I'm talking in sort of decimal places here in terms of the one basis point, in comparison to guidance, which we do see a little bit of fluctuation in the guidance in comparison to actual. That has been largely driven by the increase in average holdings, which I also commented on in my script. Really, the guidance around that, if we see continued increased stock market gains coming through, which is increasing average client holdings quite significantly, then we'll probably be a little bit worse than the guidance that I've guided towards.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

If market levels are more or less where they currently are, I expect my guidance to hold. There's going to be some fluctuation in degree or fluctuation around that. Some of it's within our control and some are a factor of market movements, which overall is positive for the business if we're getting in more pounds, actual pound notes for the assets that we're managing. That's really what I'm expecting there.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Yeah. David, the key is the operating margin in our business and the operating leverage. Even if market levels go up faster, and it sort of means one tends to two or something as an example, basis points over a period, that is not a sort of massive concern for us because of the operating leverage in our business. We believe we can drive that up further, as we've said, because of the benefits and opportunities with things like AI and the core scale anyway. In terms of your QC RFP question, that was what we actually talked about at the first half. If you recall, in March, we talked about how we were doing some restructuring of our advisors within QFP. Sorry, within QC, QCFP. We have lots of acronyms here. The QC financial planners.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

That was where we looked, we did a productivity review. There were some changes made, 12 advisors left as a result of that process. That happened in sort of between March and June. That is the delta. That has improved the quality of our business. It has driven up productivity. We want to make sure that the advisors are the right advisors for QC, and that is the review that we've done. It is what we told you about.

[David McCann, Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Great. Thank you. Just quickly to follow up on that, would you anticipate that has implications for the advice revenues in that segment in the future? With the productivity review, would you say that's going to be negligible?

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

I think it is, in fact, revenues are in fact going to go up. Those were advisors who weren't covering the costs of their seats. The productivity of those advisors was very low. We do not expect any negative impact on revenue, and that there is a positive impact on costs for that thing. In the scheme of things, it is a small benefit. Certainly, that is again, within our guidance, you don't need to be too concerned about that.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

The other point is obviously we're looking to grow advisor numbers from this. It is about getting the right people. Within QC, we focus a little bit less on the absolute headcount, we focus on the quality. Whether that is with RFPs and with investment managers. That is really what we're doing. We're making sure we have absolutely the best people for that market and for the types of clients that we should be dealing with in that market. That's what we're doing within QC.

[David McCann, Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Okay. Thank you.

[Company Representative at Quilter]

We have two questions or two participants sending questions on the web. The first is for Michael Christelis. A two-part question. Firstly asking what current level of RFP assets under advice are sitting on other platforms, i.e., what's the current back book on other platforms? Secondly, asking about the current pipelines of investment managers who may join Quilter Cheviot, how does that look relative to recent years, given that some peers have been going through regulatory issues?

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Okay. Thanks, Mike. The first question in terms of assets on other platforms, it's a few billion. We still guide towards about GBP 1 billion a year of flows from other platforms, and we expect that will continue. The number that is on other platforms moves up and down a bit based on the bits that you've moved on, but new advisors that are joining our network. When new advisors join, they obviously join as experienced advisors with assets elsewhere, and then those assets move over time. It is a few billion, and it seems to stay at about that number, and we seem to bring about GBP 1 billion in a year through those transfers. The second question on pipeline of QC IMs. As I said a moment ago, our real focus is on getting the good quality of IMs.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

There is turmoil, as you point out, in the market. That does create an opportunity for us, which we are obviously working at. We are really focused, though, on making sure we get, and that we add really strong, really high-quality IMs to our business. It's not a numbers-chasing game, but it's a quality-chasing game for us. Yes, we do see that there are opportunities, and that is something that we are working on.

[Company Representative at Quilter]

A second question from Abid Hussain at Panmure Liberum. One on productivity and one on margins. The first on productivity. Your Quilter channel productivity has jumped to GBP 3.9 million per advisor, up 18% year-on-year. How much further can that go before you hit a natural ceiling? What is the read-across for Cheviot investment manager productivity as you apply the same playbook here? There's a second question on margins, which I'll come to after you've answered that one.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Okay. All right. Sorry. Look, I think we've already commented a bit on that GBP 3.9 million number. We do see upside still to that, for a range of reasons. We've talked about advisor productivity. We have also said before, and just to be clear and to repeat, first of all, there are two elements within that GBP 3.9 million that are worth noting. One element, as I said before, is because a large part of the business is transfers, there is a market level in that. The market levels are up, so if markets go up 10%, that number can easily go up by probably 5%-6% just because of market levels, because about 50% or 60% of the assets are transfers. Vice versa, the other way.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Just note, obviously, if there's a stock market crash, I would expect the GBP 3.9 million to go down the other way. That's just how some of that stuff works. That's one of the drivers. The other thing is, we are recruiting new advisors from our advisor academy, and the faster growth that we get from advisors from our academy, obviously academy advisors come in with a lower productivity, but we're also continuing to recruit experienced advisors as well. I'm not sort of guiding that it's going to be down, but I'm just saying that there are multiple factors within it. Having said that, we still believe that there is positive upside in that number. It may be, depending on market cycles, it may move around a bit from time to time.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

In terms of your next question, of course, Cheviot, that's sort of what's the equivalent for IMs. As I sort of touched on, we do track that, but that's not a number we're talking about externally today. That is one of our big focus areas, is about driving up productivity and efficiency of our own advisors within QC. One of the things we've talked about in the past that we've been doing is, we have got some clients who are sitting in discretionary portfolios who we believe would be better served, because they're at the smaller end in MPS portfolios, and we're busy moving them within QC at the moment.

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

That reduces revenue margin, but actually increases operating margin for us because of the cost dynamics, and it frees up capacity of our investment managers to take on more real discretionary DFM clients, the larger clients, et cetera. Those are the types of initiatives that we are doing that will then drive up advisor or IM assets, AUM per IM, for example, which would be how we would look at that. That is our focus there too.

[Company Representative at Quilter]

Second point from Abid was on operating margin. The move from a 30% operating margin today to at least a mid-30s ambition is worth roughly GBP 40 million of profit on current revenues, material earnings upside before any growth. What's the realistic timeframe to get there, and which levers, AI, scale, mix, do the heavy lifting?

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Abid, I'll pick up on that one. Look, our op margin's obviously a function of a numerator and denominator in profit and revenues. There are a combination of factors that influence both, some of which impacts both of them. Net flow is obviously a big part of it and our distribution capabilities and the ability to carry on attracting very strong net client cashflow contributes towards it. Market performance, obviously, and the underlying asset base, given that most of our revenue is generated through a basis points charge on the assets that we manage, obviously has a big impact on it. Then our containment of costs. I've guided there in terms of what the expectations are there. Now, some of those things are very much in our control, some are partially in our control, and some we have very little control over.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

It really depends on the timing of the interplay of those. When we've set out this guidance, I'm not expecting it's going to be in the immediate future. I'm not expecting it's going to be in the long-term future. It's going to be somewhere in between. Again, that's going to be dependent on sort of market conditions and what happens more on a macro level rather than anything else.

[Company Representative at Quilter]

Okay. One, I think, final question on the web at the moment from Nick Judge at Man Group. Noting the great set of flows, but also noting that the revenue generating staff base costs were up 18% in the half. Does that suggest competition for advisors is elevated currently, or is that more reflective of the quantum of advisors you're hiring? Just trying to get an indication-

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

Yeah. Most of the revenue generating staff base cost isn't really around advisors because most of our advisors are self-employed, given the network model that we have. A lot of that's more is to do with other revenue generating staff, like the investment managers. We also put sort of the distribution teams within that line in terms of the external disclosures that we make, et cetera. You would've seen that the number of IMs, for example, has gone up slightly. We also acquired a small business in Dublin, which is included in there. It doesn't have a material impact on it, but it does sort of shift it a little bit more. We have been increasing our focus on distribution activities and hiring in those sort of areas.

[Mark Satchel, CFO at Quilter]

It's just more reflective of a lot more of the other strategies that we've already spoken about, Nick, in terms of the investments we're making and where we're channeling our efforts. In some respects, I sort of see costs that we incur in terms of increasing the people that actually have the direct interaction with clients and advisors and improving revenues as kind of been, if I can put it in inverted commas, kind of good costs or certainly better costs to have than maybe in other parts of the business. That's really reflective of the effort that we're putting into those areas.

[Company Representative at Quilter]

Okay, that's it from the web. If there's no other questions on the phones, I think we're probably at an end there. If you want to summarize, Steven, just to-

[Steven Levin, CEO at Quilter]

Yeah. Thank you very much. We're very pleased with how we've performed in the first half. Thank you all for your support.

Participants

Executives

• Steven Levin, CEO
• Mark Satchel, CFO
• Company Representative

Analysts

• Andrew Lowe, Analyst at Citi
• Ben Bathurst, Analyst at RBC Capital Markets
• Alex Bowers, Analyst at KBW
• James Allen, Analyst at Berenberg
• Christiane Holstein, Analyst at Bank of America
• Michael Sanderson, Analyst at Barclays
• Greg Simpson, Analyst at BNP Paribas
• Vivek Raja, Analyst at Investec
• David McCann, Analyst at Deutsche Bank