NYSE:BHLB Berkshire Hills Bancorp Q3 2024 Earnings Report Profile Berkshire Hills Bancorp EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.58Consensus EPS $0.55Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPS$0.50Berkshire Hills Bancorp Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$125.70 millionExpected Revenue$119.61 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$6.09 millionYoY Revenue Growth+16.60%Berkshire Hills Bancorp Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date10/24/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, October 24, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Company ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Berkshire Hills Bancorp Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 24, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Operating EPS rose to $0.58, up 5% from Q2 and 16% year-over-year, with operating net income of $24.8 M (+7% Q/Q, +15% Y/Y) and ROTC reaching 9.91%. Asset quality remained strong with net charge-offs at 16 bps excluding the Upstart sale, past-due loans at a 15-year low of 53 bps, and reserves five times the level of nonperforming loans. Capital and liquidity metrics improved, with a CET1 ratio of 11.9%, TCE of 9.1%, a loan-to-deposit ratio of 96%, and noninterest-bearing deposits at 24% of total deposits. Completed the sale of 10 New York branches for a $16 million pretax gain, refining the network to 83 locations to enhance efficiency and profitability. Sold $46.5 million of Upstart loans at 96% of book value, incurring a $1.9 million charge-off and retaining a stronger remaining portfolio with a 682 average credit score. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBerkshire Hills Bancorp Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Berkshire Hills Bancorp third quarter twenty twenty-four earnings conference call. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star one on your touchtone phone. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on October 24th, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kevin Conn. Investor Relations Officer, please go ahead. Kevin ConnInvestor Relations Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:00:46Good morning, and thank you for joining Berkshire Bank's third quarter earnings call. My name is Kevin Conn, Investor Relations and Corporate Development Officer. Here with me today are Nitin Mhatre, Chief Executive Officer; Sean Gray, Chief Operating Officer; Brett Verbovic, Chief Financial Officer; and Greg Lindenmuth, Chief Risk Officer. Our remarks will include forward-looking statements and refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Actual results could differ materially from those dates. Please see our legal disclosure on page two of the earnings presentation, referencing forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures is included in our news release. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Nitin. Nitin? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:01:26Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today. I'll begin my comments on slide three, where you can see the highlights for the third quarter. I'm pleased to report that we had a strong quarter with robust improvement in operating earnings quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. Operating EPS of $0.58 was up 5% linked quarter and up 16% year-over-year. Operating net income of $24.8 million was up 7% linked quarter and up 15% year-over-year. Operating ROTCE was 9.91%, up 26 basis points linked quarter and up 64 basis points year-over-year. Asset quality and balance sheet metrics remained strong. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:02:17Excluding the Upstart loan sale charge-off, net charge-offs were 16 basis points of loans, and our reserve to loans was flat to second quarter at 122 basis points. Of note, our total past due loans percentage at 53 basis points is at its lowest level in 15 years, and our reserve for losses at 122 basis points is about 5x the total non-performing loans. We increased our capital ratios linked quarter with CET1 at 11.9% and TCE at 9.1%. Liquidity remains solid, with our loan to deposit ratio at 96% and average non-interest-bearing deposits as a percentage of total deposits remains steady at 24%. We've updated the slides on overall CRE office and multifamily portfolios. The information on those slides highlight that our portfolio remains granular, geographically diverse, and resultantly less risky. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:03:25The performance on those loan books remains strong. Average loan balances were up 1% linked quarter and up 3% year-over-year. Average deposits were up 1% linked quarter and down 3% year-over-year. Our loans pipeline was stable versus third quarter and was up 20% year-over-year. Deposit costs were up seven basis points in the quarter, reflecting a reduction in the rate of increase in deposit costs and beta. We expect funding costs to decline as the Fed continues to cut interest rates, and like many banks, we've already moved deposit rates lower late in the third quarter. We continue to make steady progress on strategic initiatives. The sale of 10 branches in New York that was announced in March was completed this quarter, bringing our total branches to 83. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:04:23The pre-tax gain on this transaction was $16 million, slightly lower than the $19 million we expected in March, given that client-selected deposit retention exceeded our expectations. This transaction tightens our footprint and enhances the efficiency and profitability of our network. We are now at about the right size for our branch network. A week ago, we announced the sale of $46.5 million of our Upstart loan portfolio. The loans were priced at 96% of book value, resulting in $1.9 million charge-off related to the sale. The weighted average credit score for the remaining approximately $10 million Upstart loans is 682, and we believe that our reserves against that book are sufficient. We continue to make banking with Berkshire when, where, and how you want it, easier than ever. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:05:20We continued the rollout of Berkshire One, an expanded suite of digital deposit products for our customers. We will continue to invest in digitizing the customer experience while investing in our bankers to accelerate growth in deposits-led client relationships. I want to thank all of my Berkshire Bank colleagues for their continued hard work and commitment to the bank. Their commitment to our strategy and dedication to our customers is what continues to bring us together and truly set us apart. I'll now turn it over to Brett to talk through our financials in more detail. Brett? Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:05:58Thank you, Nitin. Slide four shows an overview of the third quarter. As Nitin mentioned, operating earnings were $24.8 million or 58 cents per share, up 3 cents linked quarter. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:06:10Net interest income of $88.1 million was down less than 1% linked quarter. Operating interest income was $21.5 million, up 7% linked quarter. Total operating revenue was up 1% linked quarter, and operating expenses were $72.3 million, up 1% linked quarter and down 2% year-over-year. Net charge-offs were $5.6 million or 24 basis points of average loans and included $1.9 million of charge-offs related to the Upstart loan sale. Provision expense was $5.5 million, and the reserve coverage ratio was flat linked quarter at 122 basis points. Slide 5 shows our average loan balances. Average loans were up $76 million linked quarter or 1%. This was primarily driven by growth in the commercial lending. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:07:04We've updated a page in the appendix, which shows data on the Upstart and Firestone runoff portfolios. Including the recent Upstart loan sale, the combined runoff portfolios are down by $66 million-$58 million, or 60 basis points of total loans and are performing as expected. Slide six shows average deposit balances. Average deposits increased to $64 million or 1% linked quarter. year-over-year, deposits were down 3%, but excluding the New York branch sale deposits from prior year balances, our deposits were up 1% year-over-year. Non-interest-bearing deposits as a percentage of total deposits remained at 24%, consistent with the prior two quarters. Deposit costs were 242 basis points, up 7 basis points linked quarter, and our cumulative total deposit beta is 44%. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:07:59While it's early in the cycle, we expect deposit betas in a down interest rate environment to be higher than the beta on the way up as we remain focused on managing deposit costs. Turning to slide seven, we show net interest income. Net interest income was down 1% linked quarter and down 3% year-over-year. Net interest margin was down four basis points linked quarter to 3.16 versus 3.20 in the second quarter and 3.15 in the first quarter. Our historical range for NIM, excluding the pandemic years, has been between 3.10 and 3.40. We expect the fourth quarter NIM to be between 3.10 and 3.20. While we have had wins of floating-rate loans repricing lower short-term, we also have several tailwinds. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:08:48We have $1.6 billion of CDs or 67% of that book maturing in the next six months, and we have about $400 million of FHLB funding that matures over the same time period. Further, we have $600 million of low-yield receive-fixed swaps maturing over 2025 and 2026, and we have low-yield fixed rate securities and loans that will mature and reprice at higher yields. Slide 8 shows operating non-interest income up $1.4 million or 7% linked quarter and up $4 million or 23% year-over-year. The growth in fees was primarily related to higher swap volumes. This was the third quarter in a row where we've seen solid growth in our overall fees. Slide 9 shows expenses. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:09:39Operating expenses were up 1% linked quarter to $72.3 million and down 2% year-over-year. Occupancy and professional services expense declined linked quarter and were offset by slightly higher compensation and higher other expense. Other expenses include check fraud expenses, a line that impacts the entire industry and which can be volatile. This quarter, that line item was $1.5 million higher than the average of the prior eight quarters due to one isolated incident. Slide 10 is a summary of asset quality metrics. Non-performing loans were up 12% linked quarter and down 10% year-over-year. The increase in CRE non-performing loans linked quarter was driven by one isolated multi-use property in Upstate New York. Net charge-offs of $5.6 million were up $4 million linked quarter and $193,000 year-over-year. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:10:34Net charge-offs included $1.9 million related to the Upstart loan sales. Charge-offs excluding that sale were $3.8 million or 16 basis points of loans. We've included a chart in the appendix with Berkshire's net charge-off rates versus the industry since 2000, which reflects relatively better asset quality than the industry over time. Slide 11 shows that our CRE book is well diversified in terms of geography and collateral type. The credit quality of the CRE portfolio remains solid, with non-accrual loans at 22 basis points of period-end loans. Slide 12 shows details on our office portfolio. As noted last quarter, the weighted average loan-to-value ratios are about 60%, and a large majority of the portfolio was in suburban and Class A space. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:11:24We have very limited exposure to Boston's Financial District, and 80% of our office properties financed are under 150,000 sq ft, suggesting our portfolio has much lower default probabilities. Slide 13 shows details of our multifamily portfolio. The multifamily portfolio is $664 million or 7.2% of loans. The book is well diversified across our footprint with a weighted average loan-to-value of 65%. While current credit quality metrics are strong, we recognize that economic uncertainties exist, and we are monitoring both new originations and existing portfolios carefully. As Nitin mentioned, we have strong capital levels. Tangible book value per share was $24.53, an increase of 6% linked quarter and 16% year-over-year. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:12:18Our CET ratio is up 30 basis points to 11.9%, and our TCE ratio rose 94 basis points to 9.1% due to higher retained earnings and a lower bond markup on our AFS securities. Our top capital management priority is to support organic loan growth. Year to date, we've repurchased $17.4 million of stock at an average cost of $21.94. All of our repo this year has been completed below tangible book value per share. We paused our stock repurchase in the third quarter to support expected loan, expected balance sheet growth. We expect to continue to be opportunistic with stock repurchases, and I'd note that since fourth quarter of 2020, we've reduced our share count by 18%. With that, I'll turn it back over to Nitin for further comments. Nitin? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:13:09Thank you, Brett. Quick comments on macroeconomic environment. The operating environment for banking industry is improving. As I noted last quarter, the yield curve has been in its longest period of inversion in recorded history, but it's starting to normalize as the Fed lowers short-term interest rates starting last month. The potential net interest income increase for the industry during periods of yield curve steepening is substantial. As Brett mentioned, we're already starting to reduce our funding cost and expect a more normal operating environment in the quarters to come. A lower interest rate environment will not just lower the funding cost, but it'll also help improve credit, raise property values, and increase loan demand. I'm proud of what our team has accomplished and how far we've come. Notably, we're starting to gain traction on our new deposit generation initiatives. We still have work to do. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:14:10Our focus near term is to accelerate our deposit growth engine, continue to tightly manage expenses and credit, and further improve client acquisition and retention through enhanced client experience and our digital banking offerings. In closing, it was a strong quarter, and we'll continue to focus on managing the headwinds and tailwinds towards further improving long-term profitability and shareholder value. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for questions. Operator? Operator00:14:42Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from Christopher O'Connell with KBW. Your line is now open. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:15:11Hey, morning. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:15:14Morning, Chris. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:15:14I was just hoping, Nitin, we're just hoping to check in. Was the guidance, you know, not included in the slide deck? Is, you know, the guidance still valid, I guess, for the twenty twenty-four updated guidance provided last quarter? Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:15:33Yeah. So I think, you know, we're still expecting to see or, you know, we said in our call, you know, we're expecting the NIM for the fourth quarter to be between 3.10%-3.20%. We're expecting revenue to be flat to slightly down in Q4 with expenses modestly down. And then from a net charge-off standpoint, I think we're expecting it to be stable when you exclude the Upstart loan sale charge-offs from this quarter. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:16:08Okay, great. That's helpful. And then just curious on the, you know, the commentary around, you know, the cutting cycle and, you know, the deposit beta is expected to be, you know, higher on the way down than on the way up, which, you know, is a, you know, I think somewhat, you know, different than many of your peers. You know, any, you know, just color about, you know, why you guys feel that way or kind of, you know, how you expect to achieve that? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:16:39Yeah, I think, Chris, qualitatively speaking, we do have a number of tailwinds that we've identified where we could have the opportunity to, you know, manage that deposit beta and the margins better in the down cycle. We have significant amount of CDs coming up for maturity. Almost two-thirds of our portfolio comes up for maturities in the next two quarters. We've got some swaps rolling off, and so on and so forth. So we believe we have those tailwinds. And then on the front line, the teams are working hard to manage the deposit pricing sharply, keeping a good balance of volume versus spreads. So I think there will be more opportunities as in this cycle. And we're beginning to see market react to that as well. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:17:28Some of it depends on how the competition reacts, and we're beginning to see... There are always outliers, but we're beginning to see more and more of our peers bringing down the deposit rates, starting late September. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:17:45Great. And you mentioned you've already moved, you know, a bit on those rates. Do you guys have a spot, either interest-bearing or total deposit cost, you know, post the sale or, and, you know, after the rate moves? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:01The spot for September was 3.10, Chris, and I think our spot NIM was about 3.10% for September, and I think we believe, for the fourth quarter, we should be between 3.10% and 3.20%. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:18Brett, do you have anything spot on the overall deposit costs? Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:25... deposit costs. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:28Just give us one second, Chris. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:36No problem. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:38It was 242 basis points, right? Most of the whole quarter. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:42The whole quarter. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:43First spot for just September alone, it was 241 basis points. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:47241 basis points. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:50Great. Thank you. And then just last one for me, and I'll step out. You know, it seems like the swap fees picked up quite a bit this quarter. Are you guys seeing, just in general, with the change in the rate environment, you know, increased demand for that type of product? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:19:08I think the demand, because we see that in the pipeline. The pipeline seems to suggest that it'll be relatively flat in the fourth quarter. Difficult to predict it beyond that, beyond what's in the pipeline. But yeah, I think the momentum seems to be holding, going into the fourth quarter. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:19:28Great. Appreciate the time. Thank you. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:19:31Thank you, Chris. Operator00:19:33Your next question comes from Laurie Hunsicker with Seaport Research. Your line is now open. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:19:41Yeah, hi. Thanks. Good morning, gentlemen. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:19:43Good morning. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:19:43I just wondered if we could go back to expenses. You know, the comments you gave Chris, expenses are going quarter, that makes sense. But maybe you can just help us think about, you know, what's reinvested, what's dropping to the bottom line, right? So we look at your expenses, they were $72 million this quarter, $1.6 million of fraud comes out, and then the ten branch closures. Previously, you all had said that's a $6.5 million expense saving, so $1.6 million in the quarter, which would then take us down to $69 million. Maybe just help us think about what's being reinvested, or just in terms of dollars, how we should be thinking about the expense line in the fourth quarter. Thanks. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:20:31Yeah, I would. Hi, Laurie, this is Brett. I would say from an expense standpoint, some of the expenses that we had related to those branches were already captured in the current quarter, so there will be some falling to the bottom line. You do remove the $1.34 million of the fraud losses that we saw. You know, I think we're looking to be in the range of, you know, right around approximately $71 million of Q4 operating expenses, give or take. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:21:04Okay. Okay, great. And then just going over here to office, and I appreciate all the details you guys provide. Can you just update us on a couple things with respect to your criticized book, that $24 million specifically? It looks like $14 million in Class A and $10 million in Class B. Just what are the occupancies on those, and when do they mature? Are there any specific reserves, any concerns you're seeing there? And then same on that Class B non-performer, that's $3.5 million. What's the occupancy, and when does that mature? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:21:40Sure. Greg, you want to take that? Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:21:43Sure thing. Hi, Laurie, how are you? Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:21:47Hey there. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:21:50For the Class A, it's a single credit. Basically, it's an 80% occupancy. It does mature in December 2024, and we're working closely with the client to refinance that credit, and it'll likely be an improved structure. As far as the Class B, it's a couple handful of credits that range in occupancy from 25%-50% occupancy. One of those credits happens to be one of the NPLs as well. Those mature in 2026-2028. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:22:29Got it. Okay, got it. And then what, what's the reserve on your whole office book? Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:22:37And just to answer your prior question, there are no specific reserves on those criticized assets. None of them warrant specific reserves, and I would approximate it at about 1.5%, based off the lower risk profile of our office book. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:22:53Got it. Got it. Okay, great. That's helpful. And then just, last question, Upstart, obviously, you got a great price here at 96 on the dollar. Can you just talk a little bit about how that came together? And then just remind us when specifically in the quarter that closed, and what was the FICO on those? And then I, I just want to confirm, too, as I'm looking at this: so your Upstart sale had $1.9 million in charge-offs, then you had another $2 million in charge-offs related to your book, and you said the FICO on that was 682. So I just wanna, wanna understand that a little bit, too. Thanks. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:30Sure. You got it- Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:31Yeah, Laurie- Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:33Okay. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:33Go ahead. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:34Sorry. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:34No, go ahead, Greg. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:36Yeah. So, the sale criteria, the purchaser's investment policies were basically nothing past due and anything over 660. Now, there's an intricacy, I think, with the past due piece. Even if it was 1 day late, that was not included in the sale. So actually, 40% of the book that we're retaining was 1 day-30 days past due, and that has a similar risk profile, including loans that are in their grace period. Similar risk profile as our existing book. And that's why you see a weighted average credit score in the book of 682. Of the loans that we sold, the weighted average FICO was slightly above our overall average, in around 711. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:24:29That sale closed right in the middle of October, on the 16th. As far as the losses, the $2 million in losses, that was just our quarterly run-rate for basically our $67 million dollar book at the end of 2Q. That was our losses for the whole quarter. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:24:51Got it. Okay, thanks for taking my question. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:24:55Thank you, Laurie. Operator00:24:57Your next question comes from Mark Fitzgibbon with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:25:03Hey, guys, good morning. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:25:06Morning, Mark. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:25:07First question, just to follow up on a question my esteemed colleague, Laurie, just asked about. I'm curious, is it likely we'll see more Upstart or Firestone loan sales in coming quarters? Is the plan to sort of fire sale those out? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:25:23No, I think, Mark, we believe we've kind of run those portfolios off. Upstart is really down to that $10 million, and it's sufficiently provided for at this point of time. Firestone is, in terms of performance, while it is liquidating in runoff mode, its performance is actually exceeding our expectations and in fact, this quarter at a net recovery. I think we're done. It's a very tiny piece of our portfolio, roughly about 50 basis-60 basis points of the entire loan portfolio. It's really in the runoff mode, and we don't see any difference in direction anymore. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:26:01Okay. And then secondly, I wondered if I could dig in a little bit to the check fraud situation you mentioned. I know you, you all kind of downplayed it as, you know, a unique thing for the industry, but it's still $1.5 million. And I guess I wonder why couldn't that be $15 million or $150 million? You know, I guess I'm curious if you could give us, share any color on what happened and how you're gonna prevent similar kinds of things from occurring. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:26:30It was really a commercial check, kind of fraud. It's check washing. And I think across every forum that you attend, there is, you know, an increase in that activity. And this is one of those situations where you have all the controls, but the fraudsters somehow are able to slip one through. It will be protected to the extent that there will be some recovery coming off it because of the insurance. But by and large, our trend on the fraud losses is consistent with what we're seeing in the industry or marginally better. This is really one of those odd check washing things that just kind of escaped through our controls. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:27:16Okay. So is there like a diligence process you're going through to kind of figure out what happened and how to change that process so that this thing doesn't occur again? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:27:27Yes, and the good news part is that we have been noticing the increase in fraud, you know, in the industry over the last, you know, twelve months or so, and there have been significant number of changes that have been made, including updating some of the processes and platforms. And I think everything that we have now should certainly help prevent a repeat of such incidents. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:27:51Okay. And then next, I was curious, Nitin, if you could share with us kind of your priorities for capital today. You've got a little bit of excess capital. You know, as you think about buybacks, dividends, growth, M&A, you know, your thoughts on prioritizing? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:28:08Yeah, I think the sequence remains similar, Mark. You know, we want to-- the first dollar want to be allocated to the, to the organic growth, right? And we're beginning to see momentum. As I mentioned in my remarks, our loans growth was kind of roughly 1% in the quarter, but our loans pipeline was up about 20% year-over-year. So we have a pipeline there. We're just being judicious, being careful, selective, and in fact, leading with clients that have deposit relationships as well across the board. So, yeah, first all it goes to organic growth and then followed by, you know, dividends, buybacks. And, you know, if there are opportunities outside of that, we'll explore those as well. But that's the sequence. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:28:58Do you feel like Berkshire Hills is ready to consider an acquisition at this point? Have you kind of got your house in a place where you feel like if an opportunity came along, you'd be positioned to capitalize on that? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:29:12I think, it does feel like through everything that we've done through our transformation, we are in the, you know, best possible situation to earn the right to be able to grow our currency and look for opportunities outside. But right now, pretty much the team is focused on how do we improve, continually improve our performance, improve our currency, and if something comes along, we take a look at that. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:29:38Okay, and then last question I had is, when can we expect sort of an update on your BEST goals? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:29:47I think we're going to give annual guidance in January, and at that point of time, we could even look at some midterm guidance as part of that guidance. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:29:57Great. Thank you. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:29:59Thank you, Mark. Operator00:30:01There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Nitin Mhatre. Please go ahead. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:30:09Thank you, Joel, and thank you all for joining us today on our call and for your continued interest in Berkshire. Have a great day and be well. Joel, you can close the call now. Operator00:30:19Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This ends the conference call today. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Berkshire Hills Bancorp third quarter twenty twenty-four earnings conference call. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star one on your touchtone phone. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on October 24th, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kevin Conn. Investor Relations Officer, please go ahead. Kevin ConnInvestor Relations Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:00:46Good morning, and thank you for joining Berkshire Bank's third quarter earnings call. My name is Kevin Conn, Investor Relations and Corporate Development Officer. Here with me today are Nitin Mhatre, Chief Executive Officer; Sean Gray, Chief Operating Officer; Brett Verbovic, Chief Financial Officer; and Greg Lindenmuth, Chief Risk Officer. Our remarks will include forward-looking statements and refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Actual results could differ materially from those dates. Please see our legal disclosure on page two of the earnings presentation, referencing forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures is included in our news release. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Nitin. Nitin? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:01:26Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today. I'll begin my comments on slide three, where you can see the highlights for the third quarter. I'm pleased to report that we had a strong quarter with robust improvement in operating earnings quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. Operating EPS of $0.58 was up 5% linked quarter and up 16% year-over-year. Operating net income of $24.8 million was up 7% linked quarter and up 15% year-over-year. Operating ROTCE was 9.91%, up 26 basis points linked quarter and up 64 basis points year-over-year. Asset quality and balance sheet metrics remained strong. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:02:17Excluding the Upstart loan sale charge-off, net charge-offs were 16 basis points of loans, and our reserve to loans was flat to second quarter at 122 basis points. Of note, our total past due loans percentage at 53 basis points is at its lowest level in 15 years, and our reserve for losses at 122 basis points is about 5x the total non-performing loans. We increased our capital ratios linked quarter with CET1 at 11.9% and TCE at 9.1%. Liquidity remains solid, with our loan to deposit ratio at 96% and average non-interest-bearing deposits as a percentage of total deposits remains steady at 24%. We've updated the slides on overall CRE office and multifamily portfolios. The information on those slides highlight that our portfolio remains granular, geographically diverse, and resultantly less risky. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:03:25The performance on those loan books remains strong. Average loan balances were up 1% linked quarter and up 3% year-over-year. Average deposits were up 1% linked quarter and down 3% year-over-year. Our loans pipeline was stable versus third quarter and was up 20% year-over-year. Deposit costs were up seven basis points in the quarter, reflecting a reduction in the rate of increase in deposit costs and beta. We expect funding costs to decline as the Fed continues to cut interest rates, and like many banks, we've already moved deposit rates lower late in the third quarter. We continue to make steady progress on strategic initiatives. The sale of 10 branches in New York that was announced in March was completed this quarter, bringing our total branches to 83. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:04:23The pre-tax gain on this transaction was $16 million, slightly lower than the $19 million we expected in March, given that client-selected deposit retention exceeded our expectations. This transaction tightens our footprint and enhances the efficiency and profitability of our network. We are now at about the right size for our branch network. A week ago, we announced the sale of $46.5 million of our Upstart loan portfolio. The loans were priced at 96% of book value, resulting in $1.9 million charge-off related to the sale. The weighted average credit score for the remaining approximately $10 million Upstart loans is 682, and we believe that our reserves against that book are sufficient. We continue to make banking with Berkshire when, where, and how you want it, easier than ever. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:05:20We continued the rollout of Berkshire One, an expanded suite of digital deposit products for our customers. We will continue to invest in digitizing the customer experience while investing in our bankers to accelerate growth in deposits-led client relationships. I want to thank all of my Berkshire Bank colleagues for their continued hard work and commitment to the bank. Their commitment to our strategy and dedication to our customers is what continues to bring us together and truly set us apart. I'll now turn it over to Brett to talk through our financials in more detail. Brett? Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:05:58Thank you, Nitin. Slide four shows an overview of the third quarter. As Nitin mentioned, operating earnings were $24.8 million or 58 cents per share, up 3 cents linked quarter. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:06:10Net interest income of $88.1 million was down less than 1% linked quarter. Operating interest income was $21.5 million, up 7% linked quarter. Total operating revenue was up 1% linked quarter, and operating expenses were $72.3 million, up 1% linked quarter and down 2% year-over-year. Net charge-offs were $5.6 million or 24 basis points of average loans and included $1.9 million of charge-offs related to the Upstart loan sale. Provision expense was $5.5 million, and the reserve coverage ratio was flat linked quarter at 122 basis points. Slide 5 shows our average loan balances. Average loans were up $76 million linked quarter or 1%. This was primarily driven by growth in the commercial lending. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:07:04We've updated a page in the appendix, which shows data on the Upstart and Firestone runoff portfolios. Including the recent Upstart loan sale, the combined runoff portfolios are down by $66 million-$58 million, or 60 basis points of total loans and are performing as expected. Slide six shows average deposit balances. Average deposits increased to $64 million or 1% linked quarter. year-over-year, deposits were down 3%, but excluding the New York branch sale deposits from prior year balances, our deposits were up 1% year-over-year. Non-interest-bearing deposits as a percentage of total deposits remained at 24%, consistent with the prior two quarters. Deposit costs were 242 basis points, up 7 basis points linked quarter, and our cumulative total deposit beta is 44%. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:07:59While it's early in the cycle, we expect deposit betas in a down interest rate environment to be higher than the beta on the way up as we remain focused on managing deposit costs. Turning to slide seven, we show net interest income. Net interest income was down 1% linked quarter and down 3% year-over-year. Net interest margin was down four basis points linked quarter to 3.16 versus 3.20 in the second quarter and 3.15 in the first quarter. Our historical range for NIM, excluding the pandemic years, has been between 3.10 and 3.40. We expect the fourth quarter NIM to be between 3.10 and 3.20. While we have had wins of floating-rate loans repricing lower short-term, we also have several tailwinds. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:08:48We have $1.6 billion of CDs or 67% of that book maturing in the next six months, and we have about $400 million of FHLB funding that matures over the same time period. Further, we have $600 million of low-yield receive-fixed swaps maturing over 2025 and 2026, and we have low-yield fixed rate securities and loans that will mature and reprice at higher yields. Slide 8 shows operating non-interest income up $1.4 million or 7% linked quarter and up $4 million or 23% year-over-year. The growth in fees was primarily related to higher swap volumes. This was the third quarter in a row where we've seen solid growth in our overall fees. Slide 9 shows expenses. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:09:39Operating expenses were up 1% linked quarter to $72.3 million and down 2% year-over-year. Occupancy and professional services expense declined linked quarter and were offset by slightly higher compensation and higher other expense. Other expenses include check fraud expenses, a line that impacts the entire industry and which can be volatile. This quarter, that line item was $1.5 million higher than the average of the prior eight quarters due to one isolated incident. Slide 10 is a summary of asset quality metrics. Non-performing loans were up 12% linked quarter and down 10% year-over-year. The increase in CRE non-performing loans linked quarter was driven by one isolated multi-use property in Upstate New York. Net charge-offs of $5.6 million were up $4 million linked quarter and $193,000 year-over-year. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:10:34Net charge-offs included $1.9 million related to the Upstart loan sales. Charge-offs excluding that sale were $3.8 million or 16 basis points of loans. We've included a chart in the appendix with Berkshire's net charge-off rates versus the industry since 2000, which reflects relatively better asset quality than the industry over time. Slide 11 shows that our CRE book is well diversified in terms of geography and collateral type. The credit quality of the CRE portfolio remains solid, with non-accrual loans at 22 basis points of period-end loans. Slide 12 shows details on our office portfolio. As noted last quarter, the weighted average loan-to-value ratios are about 60%, and a large majority of the portfolio was in suburban and Class A space. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:11:24We have very limited exposure to Boston's Financial District, and 80% of our office properties financed are under 150,000 sq ft, suggesting our portfolio has much lower default probabilities. Slide 13 shows details of our multifamily portfolio. The multifamily portfolio is $664 million or 7.2% of loans. The book is well diversified across our footprint with a weighted average loan-to-value of 65%. While current credit quality metrics are strong, we recognize that economic uncertainties exist, and we are monitoring both new originations and existing portfolios carefully. As Nitin mentioned, we have strong capital levels. Tangible book value per share was $24.53, an increase of 6% linked quarter and 16% year-over-year. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:12:18Our CET ratio is up 30 basis points to 11.9%, and our TCE ratio rose 94 basis points to 9.1% due to higher retained earnings and a lower bond markup on our AFS securities. Our top capital management priority is to support organic loan growth. Year to date, we've repurchased $17.4 million of stock at an average cost of $21.94. All of our repo this year has been completed below tangible book value per share. We paused our stock repurchase in the third quarter to support expected loan, expected balance sheet growth. We expect to continue to be opportunistic with stock repurchases, and I'd note that since fourth quarter of 2020, we've reduced our share count by 18%. With that, I'll turn it back over to Nitin for further comments. Nitin? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:13:09Thank you, Brett. Quick comments on macroeconomic environment. The operating environment for banking industry is improving. As I noted last quarter, the yield curve has been in its longest period of inversion in recorded history, but it's starting to normalize as the Fed lowers short-term interest rates starting last month. The potential net interest income increase for the industry during periods of yield curve steepening is substantial. As Brett mentioned, we're already starting to reduce our funding cost and expect a more normal operating environment in the quarters to come. A lower interest rate environment will not just lower the funding cost, but it'll also help improve credit, raise property values, and increase loan demand. I'm proud of what our team has accomplished and how far we've come. Notably, we're starting to gain traction on our new deposit generation initiatives. We still have work to do. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:14:10Our focus near term is to accelerate our deposit growth engine, continue to tightly manage expenses and credit, and further improve client acquisition and retention through enhanced client experience and our digital banking offerings. In closing, it was a strong quarter, and we'll continue to focus on managing the headwinds and tailwinds towards further improving long-term profitability and shareholder value. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for questions. Operator? Operator00:14:42Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from Christopher O'Connell with KBW. Your line is now open. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:15:11Hey, morning. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:15:14Morning, Chris. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:15:14I was just hoping, Nitin, we're just hoping to check in. Was the guidance, you know, not included in the slide deck? Is, you know, the guidance still valid, I guess, for the twenty twenty-four updated guidance provided last quarter? Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:15:33Yeah. So I think, you know, we're still expecting to see or, you know, we said in our call, you know, we're expecting the NIM for the fourth quarter to be between 3.10%-3.20%. We're expecting revenue to be flat to slightly down in Q4 with expenses modestly down. And then from a net charge-off standpoint, I think we're expecting it to be stable when you exclude the Upstart loan sale charge-offs from this quarter. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:16:08Okay, great. That's helpful. And then just curious on the, you know, the commentary around, you know, the cutting cycle and, you know, the deposit beta is expected to be, you know, higher on the way down than on the way up, which, you know, is a, you know, I think somewhat, you know, different than many of your peers. You know, any, you know, just color about, you know, why you guys feel that way or kind of, you know, how you expect to achieve that? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:16:39Yeah, I think, Chris, qualitatively speaking, we do have a number of tailwinds that we've identified where we could have the opportunity to, you know, manage that deposit beta and the margins better in the down cycle. We have significant amount of CDs coming up for maturity. Almost two-thirds of our portfolio comes up for maturities in the next two quarters. We've got some swaps rolling off, and so on and so forth. So we believe we have those tailwinds. And then on the front line, the teams are working hard to manage the deposit pricing sharply, keeping a good balance of volume versus spreads. So I think there will be more opportunities as in this cycle. And we're beginning to see market react to that as well. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:17:28Some of it depends on how the competition reacts, and we're beginning to see... There are always outliers, but we're beginning to see more and more of our peers bringing down the deposit rates, starting late September. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:17:45Great. And you mentioned you've already moved, you know, a bit on those rates. Do you guys have a spot, either interest-bearing or total deposit cost, you know, post the sale or, and, you know, after the rate moves? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:01The spot for September was 3.10, Chris, and I think our spot NIM was about 3.10% for September, and I think we believe, for the fourth quarter, we should be between 3.10% and 3.20%. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:18Brett, do you have anything spot on the overall deposit costs? Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:25... deposit costs. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:28Just give us one second, Chris. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:36No problem. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:38It was 242 basis points, right? Most of the whole quarter. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:42The whole quarter. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:18:43First spot for just September alone, it was 241 basis points. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:47241 basis points. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:18:50Great. Thank you. And then just last one for me, and I'll step out. You know, it seems like the swap fees picked up quite a bit this quarter. Are you guys seeing, just in general, with the change in the rate environment, you know, increased demand for that type of product? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:19:08I think the demand, because we see that in the pipeline. The pipeline seems to suggest that it'll be relatively flat in the fourth quarter. Difficult to predict it beyond that, beyond what's in the pipeline. But yeah, I think the momentum seems to be holding, going into the fourth quarter. Christopher O'ConnellAnalyst at KBW00:19:28Great. Appreciate the time. Thank you. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:19:31Thank you, Chris. Operator00:19:33Your next question comes from Laurie Hunsicker with Seaport Research. Your line is now open. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:19:41Yeah, hi. Thanks. Good morning, gentlemen. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:19:43Good morning. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:19:43I just wondered if we could go back to expenses. You know, the comments you gave Chris, expenses are going quarter, that makes sense. But maybe you can just help us think about, you know, what's reinvested, what's dropping to the bottom line, right? So we look at your expenses, they were $72 million this quarter, $1.6 million of fraud comes out, and then the ten branch closures. Previously, you all had said that's a $6.5 million expense saving, so $1.6 million in the quarter, which would then take us down to $69 million. Maybe just help us think about what's being reinvested, or just in terms of dollars, how we should be thinking about the expense line in the fourth quarter. Thanks. Brett VerbovicCFO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:20:31Yeah, I would. Hi, Laurie, this is Brett. I would say from an expense standpoint, some of the expenses that we had related to those branches were already captured in the current quarter, so there will be some falling to the bottom line. You do remove the $1.34 million of the fraud losses that we saw. You know, I think we're looking to be in the range of, you know, right around approximately $71 million of Q4 operating expenses, give or take. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:21:04Okay. Okay, great. And then just going over here to office, and I appreciate all the details you guys provide. Can you just update us on a couple things with respect to your criticized book, that $24 million specifically? It looks like $14 million in Class A and $10 million in Class B. Just what are the occupancies on those, and when do they mature? Are there any specific reserves, any concerns you're seeing there? And then same on that Class B non-performer, that's $3.5 million. What's the occupancy, and when does that mature? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:21:40Sure. Greg, you want to take that? Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:21:43Sure thing. Hi, Laurie, how are you? Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:21:47Hey there. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:21:50For the Class A, it's a single credit. Basically, it's an 80% occupancy. It does mature in December 2024, and we're working closely with the client to refinance that credit, and it'll likely be an improved structure. As far as the Class B, it's a couple handful of credits that range in occupancy from 25%-50% occupancy. One of those credits happens to be one of the NPLs as well. Those mature in 2026-2028. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:22:29Got it. Okay, got it. And then what, what's the reserve on your whole office book? Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:22:37And just to answer your prior question, there are no specific reserves on those criticized assets. None of them warrant specific reserves, and I would approximate it at about 1.5%, based off the lower risk profile of our office book. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:22:53Got it. Got it. Okay, great. That's helpful. And then just, last question, Upstart, obviously, you got a great price here at 96 on the dollar. Can you just talk a little bit about how that came together? And then just remind us when specifically in the quarter that closed, and what was the FICO on those? And then I, I just want to confirm, too, as I'm looking at this: so your Upstart sale had $1.9 million in charge-offs, then you had another $2 million in charge-offs related to your book, and you said the FICO on that was 682. So I just wanna, wanna understand that a little bit, too. Thanks. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:30Sure. You got it- Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:31Yeah, Laurie- Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:33Okay. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:33Go ahead. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:34Sorry. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:34No, go ahead, Greg. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:23:36Yeah. So, the sale criteria, the purchaser's investment policies were basically nothing past due and anything over 660. Now, there's an intricacy, I think, with the past due piece. Even if it was 1 day late, that was not included in the sale. So actually, 40% of the book that we're retaining was 1 day-30 days past due, and that has a similar risk profile, including loans that are in their grace period. Similar risk profile as our existing book. And that's why you see a weighted average credit score in the book of 682. Of the loans that we sold, the weighted average FICO was slightly above our overall average, in around 711. Greg LindenmuthChief Risk Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:24:29That sale closed right in the middle of October, on the 16th. As far as the losses, the $2 million in losses, that was just our quarterly run-rate for basically our $67 million dollar book at the end of 2Q. That was our losses for the whole quarter. Laurie HunsickerAnalyst at Seaport Research00:24:51Got it. Okay, thanks for taking my question. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:24:55Thank you, Laurie. Operator00:24:57Your next question comes from Mark Fitzgibbon with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:25:03Hey, guys, good morning. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:25:06Morning, Mark. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:25:07First question, just to follow up on a question my esteemed colleague, Laurie, just asked about. I'm curious, is it likely we'll see more Upstart or Firestone loan sales in coming quarters? Is the plan to sort of fire sale those out? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:25:23No, I think, Mark, we believe we've kind of run those portfolios off. Upstart is really down to that $10 million, and it's sufficiently provided for at this point of time. Firestone is, in terms of performance, while it is liquidating in runoff mode, its performance is actually exceeding our expectations and in fact, this quarter at a net recovery. I think we're done. It's a very tiny piece of our portfolio, roughly about 50 basis-60 basis points of the entire loan portfolio. It's really in the runoff mode, and we don't see any difference in direction anymore. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:26:01Okay. And then secondly, I wondered if I could dig in a little bit to the check fraud situation you mentioned. I know you, you all kind of downplayed it as, you know, a unique thing for the industry, but it's still $1.5 million. And I guess I wonder why couldn't that be $15 million or $150 million? You know, I guess I'm curious if you could give us, share any color on what happened and how you're gonna prevent similar kinds of things from occurring. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:26:30It was really a commercial check, kind of fraud. It's check washing. And I think across every forum that you attend, there is, you know, an increase in that activity. And this is one of those situations where you have all the controls, but the fraudsters somehow are able to slip one through. It will be protected to the extent that there will be some recovery coming off it because of the insurance. But by and large, our trend on the fraud losses is consistent with what we're seeing in the industry or marginally better. This is really one of those odd check washing things that just kind of escaped through our controls. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:27:16Okay. So is there like a diligence process you're going through to kind of figure out what happened and how to change that process so that this thing doesn't occur again? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:27:27Yes, and the good news part is that we have been noticing the increase in fraud, you know, in the industry over the last, you know, twelve months or so, and there have been significant number of changes that have been made, including updating some of the processes and platforms. And I think everything that we have now should certainly help prevent a repeat of such incidents. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:27:51Okay. And then next, I was curious, Nitin, if you could share with us kind of your priorities for capital today. You've got a little bit of excess capital. You know, as you think about buybacks, dividends, growth, M&A, you know, your thoughts on prioritizing? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:28:08Yeah, I think the sequence remains similar, Mark. You know, we want to-- the first dollar want to be allocated to the, to the organic growth, right? And we're beginning to see momentum. As I mentioned in my remarks, our loans growth was kind of roughly 1% in the quarter, but our loans pipeline was up about 20% year-over-year. So we have a pipeline there. We're just being judicious, being careful, selective, and in fact, leading with clients that have deposit relationships as well across the board. So, yeah, first all it goes to organic growth and then followed by, you know, dividends, buybacks. And, you know, if there are opportunities outside of that, we'll explore those as well. But that's the sequence. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:28:58Do you feel like Berkshire Hills is ready to consider an acquisition at this point? Have you kind of got your house in a place where you feel like if an opportunity came along, you'd be positioned to capitalize on that? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:29:12I think, it does feel like through everything that we've done through our transformation, we are in the, you know, best possible situation to earn the right to be able to grow our currency and look for opportunities outside. But right now, pretty much the team is focused on how do we improve, continually improve our performance, improve our currency, and if something comes along, we take a look at that. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:29:38Okay, and then last question I had is, when can we expect sort of an update on your BEST goals? Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:29:47I think we're going to give annual guidance in January, and at that point of time, we could even look at some midterm guidance as part of that guidance. Mark FitzgibbonAnalyst at Piper Sandler00:29:57Great. Thank you. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:29:59Thank you, Mark. Operator00:30:01There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Nitin Mhatre. Please go ahead. Nitin MhatreCEO at Berkshire Hills Bancorp00:30:09Thank you, Joel, and thank you all for joining us today on our call and for your continued interest in Berkshire. Have a great day and be well. Joel, you can close the call now. Operator00:30:19Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This ends the conference call today. 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