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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Tigo Energy EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.22Consensus EPS -$0.17Beat/MissMissed by -$0.05One Year Ago EPS-$0.89Tigo Energy Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$14.24 millionExpected Revenue$13.92 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$320.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATigo Energy Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/6/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, November 6, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsTigo Energy's Q3 2026 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, September 30, 2026Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Tigo Energy Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 6, 2024ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Tygo reported Q3 revenue of $14.2 M, down 16.8% year-over-year but up 12.1% sequentially, driven by stronger sales in EMEA and the Americas despite weakness in Germany and Italy. Gross margin contracted to 12.5% due to a $3.4 M battery inventory write-down, while adjusted EBITDA loss narrowed 12.7% to $8.3 M following cost-cutting efforts. The company gained share in the global DC optimizer market (from 9% in 2022 to 13% in 2023) and secured a key utility-scale win to supply over 97,000 MLP units for Brazil’s largest floating solar installation. Tygo’s AI-powered PREDICT platform now manages 62,000 meters and has signed six new contracts worth $700,000 in multiyear bookings, boosting annual recurring revenue to $1.3 M. For Q4, management forecasts revenues of $14 M–$17 M and an adjusted EBITDA loss of $6.5 M–$8.5 M, aiming to achieve normalized gross margins around 35% and reach EBITDA breakeven in 2025. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTigo Energy Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:03Good afternoon. Welcome to Tigo Energy's fiscal Q3 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Joining us today for Tigo is Zvi Alon, CEO, and Bill Roeschlein, CFO. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Bill Roeschlein, Chief Financial Officer. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:00:31Thank you, Operator. We would like to remind everyone that some of the matters we'll discuss on this call, including our expected business outlook, our ability to increase our revenues and become profitable, and our overall long-term growth prospects, expectations regarding the recovery in our industry, including the timing thereof, statements about our demand for our products, our competitive position and market share, our current and future inventory levels and reserves, and their impact on future financial results, inventory supply and its impact on our customer shipments and our revenue and Adjusted EBITDA for the Q4 of 2024, Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:01:08our ability to penetrate new markets and expand our market share, including expansion in international markets, investments in our product portfolio, our forward-looking statements, and as such, are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to those factors described in today's press release and discussed in the risk factors section of our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2023, our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter ended September 30th, 2024, and other reports we may file with the SEC from time to time. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:01:45These risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed on the call. These forward-looking statements are made only as of the date when made. During our call today, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. We include non-GAAP to GAAP reconciliations in our press release furnished as an exhibit to our Form 8-K. The non-GAAP financial measures provided should not be considered as a substitute for or superior to the measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being webcast, and a recording will be made available for replay at Tigo's Investor Relations website at investors.tigoenergy.com. With that, I'd like to now turn the call over to Tigo CEO Zvi Alon. Zvi? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:02:35Thank you, Bill. To begin today's discussion, I will highlight key results in our recent performance as well as provide some commentary on market trends and conditions before turning the call over to our CFO, Bill Roeschlein. He will discuss our financial results for the quarter in more depth as well as provide our outlook for the Q4 of 2024. After that, I will share some closing remarks before opening the call for questions. Okay, let's get started. Since the Q4 of 2023, we have experienced increased quarterly revenue growth in each of the last three quarters of 2024. In addition to benefiting from the improved conditions in the solar industry, we are also gaining market share as illustrated by recent industry data showing Tigo's global DC optimizer market share increasing from 9% in 2022 to 13% in 2023. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:03:48A key area of focus for us has been within the utility-scale market, where we are seeing good success as evidenced by the recent selection of Tigo to deliver more than 97,000 MLPE units for Brazil's largest floating system, which includes our newest TS4-X-O devices. As we shared with you last quarter, the TS4-X-O is our newest MLPE device, which we believe is ideally positioned to address the high-reflection bifacial platform as one of the ones that we are using in Brazil. Meanwhile, we expect to complete the final delivery to our EPC customer this quarter for the previously announced 142 megawatt utility-scale project in Spain. We continue to see positive trends coming from this market and have a strong pipeline of opportunities, which we hope to talk about in more details in the future. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:05:03Another key focus area is within our EI software solution, where our PredictPlus AI-based energy consumption and production platform continues to grow with 62,000 meters under management. During the quarter, we signed six new contracts having a total multi-year contract value of $700,000. Most contracts are for five years, and both new contracts and additional meters enable us to increase our annual recurring revenue, or ARR, which now stands at $1.3 million per year. To give some geographical color on our results, we saw positive sales growth in the Czech Republic, Spain, and the United Kingdom during the quarter. We also saw solid sales growth in Puerto Rico and announced a new partnership in Costa Rica driven by increasing regulatory requirements for rapid shutdown capability. Which exhibits some volatility on a quarter-over-quarter basis, we saw some notable sales growth in both Thailand and Australia. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:06:30Expanding our sales footprint into new markets has been a key area and focus for us as we are seeing the benefits. Additionally, these regions I mentioned are helping us offset the sluggish or negative growth we are seeing in some other larger markets, including Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands. Bill will have some additional or more details in a minute. Lastly, we welcome Anita Chang back as our Chief Operating Officer, who originally joined Tigo in 2015 as VP Operations and served as the COO from 2020 to 2023. We are confident that her extensive experience and knowledge of supply chain operations in the industry will make her a key asset in driving operations forward. And with that, I would like to turn to Bill. Bill? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:07:35Thanks, Zvi. Turning now to our financial results for the Q3 ended September 30th, 2024. Revenue for the Q3 of 2024 decreased 16.8% to $14.2 million from $17.1 million in the prior year period. On a sequential basis, revenues increased 12.1%, with improved results coming from many countries in the EMEA and APAC regions, including the Czech Republic, Spain, the U.K., Thailand, and Australia. By region, EMEA revenue was $8.6 million, or 60% of total revenues, a 23.5% sequential increase. Americas revenue was $2.9 million, or 21% of total revenues, a 3.7% sequential increase. And APAC revenue was $2.7 million, or 19% of total revenues, a decline of 7% sequentially. Gross profit in the Q3 of 2024 was $1.8 million, or 12.5% of revenue, compared to $4.2 million, or 24.3% of revenue in the comparable year-ago period. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:08:45The year-over-year decline was primarily due to an inventory charge of $3.4 million, primarily for battery inventory. The charge reflects management's estimate of the inventory's net realizable value and incorporates current and future expectations of the battery pricing environment. Total operating expenses for the Q3 declined 20.7% to $12.2 million, compared to $15.4 million in the prior year period. The decline was driven primarily by our previously announced cost-cutting efforts. Operating loss for the Q3 decreased by 7.2% to $10.4 million, compared to $11.2 million in the prior year period. GAAP net loss for the Q3 was $13.1 million, compared to a net income of $29.1 million in the prior year period. As a reminder, the prior year period reflected a mark-to-market adjustment for our convertible note. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:09:50Adjusted EBITDA loss for the Q3 decreased 12.7% to $8.3 million, compared to adjusted EBITDA loss of $9.5 million in the prior year period. Our adjusted EBITDA loss includes the previously mentioned inventory charge of $3.4 million. As a reminder, adjusted EBITDA represents operating profit or loss as adjusted for depreciation, amortization, stock-based compensation, and M&A transaction expenses. Primary shares outstanding were 60.7 million for the Q3 of 2024. Turning now to the balance sheet, accounts receivable, net increased this quarter to $8.8 million, compared to $6.9 million last quarter, and decreased from $20.4 million in the year-ago comparable period. Inventory, net decreased by $4.5 million, or 8.8%, compared to $51.3 million last quarter and $57.4 million in the year-ago comparable period. Cash, cash equivalents, and short- and long-term marketable securities totaled $19.5 million at September 30th, 2024. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:10:59On a sequential basis, we reduced our cash burn rate, with cash declining by $0.7 million as we continue to make progress on reducing our inventory and working capital. Before I turn the call back over to Zvi, I will now take a few minutes to provide our financial outlook for the 2024 Q4. As a reminder, Tigo provides quarterly guidance for revenue as well as Adjusted EBITDA, as we believe these metrics to be key indicators for the overall performance of our business. For the Q4 of 2024, we expect revenues and Adjusted EBITDA to be in the following range. We expect revenues in the Q4 ended December 31st, 2024, to range between $14 million and $17 million. We expect Adjusted EBITDA loss to range between $6.5 million and $8.5 million. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:11:50Our guidance includes the potential need for additional inventory charges as we complete our year-end audit. The continued positive momentum that we are seeing in our business and the growth initiatives that are being undertaken to gain market share provide confidence that we will achieve profitable growth in the near future, and we look forward to sharing further updates as we progress through the rest of 2024 and into 2025. That completes my summary, and I'd like to now turn the call over back to Zvi for final remarks. Zvi? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:12:23Thanks, Bill. While industry is still contending with the headwinds, we believe that our robust product portfolio positions us to mitigate competitive pressure. As demand for our solutions continues to return, we expect revenue and profitability to increase steadily throughout the remainder of 2024 and into 2025. We are encouraged by the momentum we have built over the last three quarters and remain focused on advancing our mission to be a leading provider of intelligent solar and energy storage solutions. We firmly believe in the growth prospect of our business and look forward to providing additional updates in the coming quarter. With that, operator, please open the call for Q&A. Operator00:13:20Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Philip Shen of Roth Capital Partners. Your line is now open. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:13:54Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Wanted to check in with you on the outlook for margins, especially as we get through 2025. The margins were quite low in Q3. Q4, we can get to an implied margin for gross margins. If you can share what you think that is, that'd be great. But then what do you think the cadence of revenue and margins is on a quarterly basis through 2025? Thanks. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:14:22Hi, Phil. Well, given that we have an outsourced manufacturing model, our margins on a normalized basis without inventory charges and things like that are in the mid-30s. And so if you factor out the inventory charge, for instance, this quarter, we would have been around 35%. So if we look to next year, that's where we would expect our margins to be on a normalized basis. And as we get more economy of scale, as revenue grows, that number can grow into the high 30s and hopefully reach our target of 40%, which was closer to where we were at the high point in Q2 of 2023. In terms of the growth and how we get there, you can look at it just mathematically in several different ways. I'll point out a couple of things. Our Q4 guidance is flat up 20%, 19.4%, actually. The midpoint's up 10%. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:15:34The current quarter, we were up 12.1%. The previous quarter, we were up almost 30%. So you can model it a variety of different ways of either mid-teens, which is sort of basically where we are at now, with some acceleration into high teens to 20%. And you can see where the model would take on a sequential basis of continuing to do that each quarter. You can see that we would have year-over-year growth of anywhere from 70% to 90% to 100% growth that gives us a revenue rate that's in that $30 million-plus area which we had previously talked about and where EBITDA break-even is. And so that's how we're thinking about the business, and we're steadily marching towards that. We're making progress, and we're continuing to go in the right direction. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:16:30Of course, the macro picture is something we can't control, but that's how we're thinking of the business as we move into 2025. And we're pretty happy about the progress that we've made so far. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:16:43Okay. Thanks, Bill. Back in August, you guys talked about the channel inventory being largely cleared. And in this quarter, you're still talking about reducing your inventory. And I think in your 10-Q, you talked about the elevated inventory levels with distributors and overall channel inventory being high. And so I wanted to understand when you think the European channel inventory truly clears. And how many weeks or months do you think is in the channel in Europe? Thanks. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:17:24So yeah, the commentary overall is our channel inventory is mostly cleared. There might be one or two out of the hundred customers, hundreds of customers we have. They may still have some issues, but the channel, primarily as it relates to us, is primarily relatively cleared. We never stuffed it, or I don't want to say the word stuffed. We never got that far ahead of ourselves as maybe some other competitors might have. But overall, channel inventories are still elevated just from a macro perspective because distributors carry multiple vendors. And so if they have a hangover in general and they're having some pressure on their balance sheet, it doesn't necessarily relate to our inventory. It relates to the balance of inventory that they're carrying for the rest of the market there. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:18:28And so we still see that there's some issues with clearing inventory at a macro level with all vendors, but we're not really ascribing it as a symptom of what we're going through right now. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:18:46I would like to also add and highlight, Phil, that I believe at the end of Q1, we showed that we started seeing an increased number of repeat orders from existing customers, distributors, and that has been continuously growing substantially. I would say the majority of the orders we continue to get are repeat orders for new stock that is going into our distributors to supply demand, so from that perspective, the overhang from the last problems we had is almost gone. I would second Bill's point of view. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:19:33Great. Okay. Thank you, Zvi. Sorry if I missed this, but did you reinforce that your EBITDA break-even will be in early H1 2025, first half 2025? That's what you talked about on the Q2 call. Just remind me, are you going to be perhaps later in the year now? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:19:58Yeah. So yeah, I'll answer it now. Whether it occurs in the first half or second half is obviously the trajectory of the growth rate that we achieve. We achieved 30% in Q2, 12% this last quarter. We're guiding anywhere from flat to up 20%. And if I just sort of flatline that number, anywhere between 15%-20%, it suggests that we would be at a break-even level at that 30% number in the second half of the year, not the first half of the year. That being said, we're not making any predictions on the market. It's too unpredictable to just draw a straight line. And so what we said on the last call was first half of the year. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:21:00And so we can't say with definitiveness whether it's going to be first half or second half, but if you look at the progress that we're making, it's going to be in 2025 in our view. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:21:14Great. And then one last question for me in terms of pricing. We recently wrote that SolarEdge stopped running their promotion and just cut their price for their product in Europe by 20%-30% from an ADLP standpoint, authorized distributor list price. And so we've heard others doing that as well, Chinese vendors lowering price as opposed to running promotions. And then SMA, I think, lowered price by 12%-20%. So have you taken any price action recently? I know you guys don't price exactly on per watt; it's on a per unit basis. And I know you guys don't sell. Well, anyway, just if you can speak to how you're approaching pricing, especially given the competitive dynamics, that would be great. Thanks. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:22:12Happy to answer the question. I would summarize it as saying we have not decreased our price. Obviously, we had to, over the last year, use in various positions some discounts in some special cases, but overall, we have not, and as a matter of fact, we are maintaining our prices pretty much the same and the same type of discounts that we have been providing before. I would also highlight that the new product line we introduced, the TS4-X product line, has been introduced at a higher price, and we have seen a very nice uptick in orders for those products. We've heard about SolarEdge and some other suppliers, but we've not been required to respond or make any changes so far in the market. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:23:13Okay. Do you expect a lower price in the coming quarters? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:23:18The answer is no. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:23:20Okay. Thank you, Zvi. I'll pass it off. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:23:22Most welcome. Operator00:23:24Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Stine of Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Your line is now open. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:23:35Hi, Zvi. Hi, Bill. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:23:37Hello. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:23:37Hello. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:23:38Hello. So you had mentioned market share for 2022 and 2023, and I can appreciate, given market dislocation and things going on in different countries in Europe, may be tough to answer. But any thoughts on kind of current market share trends? And I would think, especially in Europe, this is where your inverter agnostic architecture would come into play. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:24:06Eric, besides in the industry reports, the third-party reports that validate our gains in market share, us and our main competitor both publish the number of optimizers that we sell each quarter. If you do a comparison of that, and I think we've talked about it a few times on calls, we've almost increased our share against them, going from 10% of their unit volumes to 15%-20%. We continue to see that play out. I mean, we'll analyze the numbers from here in this Q3 as soon as they're published by our competitor, and we'll see what that looks like. Each of the quarters this year so far have demonstrated continued progress in share gain. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:25:04Yep. Okay, so I guess that's what I was getting at. I mean, I guess we will find that out, but it sounds like that is the feeling. I mean, and it does seem like your commentary on balance is a little more positive than some of the others, and maybe that's by specific market, markets that you're in versus others, but to me, I guess that's noteworthy. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:25:29I can shed a bit more light. We have been told, and not just recently, but for the last couple of quarters, that we are the best-selling optimizer in the market in a couple of the European markets, the big ones, better than SolarEdge and better than some of the other guys. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:25:55Got it. Okay. Very helpful, and I guess I'll just keep it to two questions here, but just curious. I mean, I know you've been gaining nice traction on the licensing, the rapid shutdown device. Just maybe if you could talk about the pipeline there, the interest level there, given it's a pretty unique product in the market? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:26:21So I can tell you, yes, we have been adding licensees to our portfolio, and it has been going steadily over the years. And we get also some insights into numbers that they ship. So it gives us an indication as to how we're doing in the market as well. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:26:50Got it. Okay. I guess I'll take the rest offline. Thanks. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:26:54Thank you. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:26:56There is one thing I think it's worth highlighting that was discussed in Zvi's prepared remarks, and maybe this is what differentiates us, is that we're able to show growth in some of these newer regions. And it's in spite of sluggishness that you're seeing in the typical large markets, which historically for us have been Germany and Italy. And so as to the question of the cadence of return to EBITDA profitability and the revenue ramp, as those markets return to normalcy, Germany, Italy, and especially those two geographies, that's going to help benefit us as well. And so it benefits everybody. But some of the cadence of growth, because of how large the markets are in those two countries, is going to be a little dependent on the recovery in those two specific areas. Operator00:28:07Thank you. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:28:08Thank you. Operator00:28:09Our next question comes from Samir Joshi of H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Sameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:28:17Thanks. Thanks for taking my question, Bill, Zvi. Bill, actually, just following up on your commentary, my question was going to be around those lines in terms of geography. Into the second half of 2025, how do you see these geographies developing? The 30-35 level that you may be expecting in the second half quarterly, is the contribution for that revenue coming mostly from increased APAC adoption, or are there assumptions of Germany and Italy coming back by that time in these sort of outlook assumptions? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:29:06Yeah, so the current sort of mid-teens growth that we're putting on the board is coming from our ability to land and expand in some of these newer geographies that have been mentioned: Czech Republic, the UK, Australia, with more than 10% of our total, which it hasn't been that large in the recent past, and so we do see a return to more normalcy or to more of a growth pattern as it relates to Germany, which has been sort of just, I would say, sluggish, the sluggish positive, and Italy, which has been going through some internal issues, and the Netherlands, which also having very issues that are specific to that country. But we don't see those markets as we just see it as transitory, so we do believe that there will be improvement in 2025. Once we have improvement in those markets, we're going to be able to incorporate that into our own growth and revenue, and that should bode well for us. Sameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:30:47Understood. Thanks for that. And then I think in your prepared remarks, you mentioned $3.4 million. In addition to mentioning the $3.4 million charge, you mentioned there is likely to be a charge in the next quarter, I mean, the current quarter. What is the directionally? Is it higher than the $3.4 we saw in this quarter? And then part two of that question is, is this charge mainly because of devaluation or reduced prices, or is it because of part of the inventory is going obsolete? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:31:33So yeah, I'll take your second question first. It's not related to obsolescence. It's related to GO ESS product line, which is comprised of batteries and inverters, which has a much more steeper price curve and degradation in pricing environment. It's much more quite competitive, hyper-competitive. And so in the current quarter, as I mentioned in our prepared remarks, we reduced the carrying cost in order to be able to adapt to the current and future pricing environment and be able to accelerate sales for batteries. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:32:27We also mentioned in my prepared remarks that the guidance incorporates the potential because the analysis has not been done yet, and it's part of a year-end audit of the remaining balance of GO ESS products, which, again, it's GO ESS line that carries more of the pricing risk because it does have some degradation in pricing compared to our legacy TS4 line, which we haven't changed prices on in more than five years, and it represents very stable pricing for us. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:33:08So every time we get asked the question of, "Are you seeing changes in pricing and competition there?" in general, for TS4s, no. We have a very differentiated product that separates us from the rest of the pack with that product. But in batteries and inverters, as you know, there's a lot more players involved. And so we have to be able to adapt to the current pricing environment. And that's why we put that out there as a potential marker for investors to be aware of in Q4. Sameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:33:52Understood. Thanks, Bill, for that clarification and good luck for the next quarter. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:33:57Thank you. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:33:58Thank you. Operator00:34:01Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by. At this time, I am showing no further questions. I would now like to turn it back to Bill for closing remarks. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:34:32Thanks again, everyone, for joining us today. I especially want to thank our dedicated employees for their ongoing contribution, as well as our customers and partners for their continued hard work. I also want to thank the investors for their continued support. Operator? Operator00:34:55Thank you for joining us today for Tigo's Q3.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesZvi AlonCEO and ChairmanBill RoeschleinCFOAnalystsSameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig HallumPhilip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital PartnersPowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K) Tigo Energy Earnings HeadlinesTYGO INVESTOR ALERT: Class Action Lawsuit Filed on Behalf of Tigo Energy, Inc. Investors – Holzer & Holzer, LLC Encourages Investors With Losses to Contact the Firm3 hours ago | globenewswire.comROSEN, LEADING INVESTOR COUNSEL, Encourages Tigo Energy, Inc. 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Its portfolio includes module-level power electronics (MLPE), such as the TS4 platform, which supports functions including power optimization, rapid shutdown, and module-level monitoring. Tigo also offers cloud-based monitoring and fleet-management software, as well as energy-storage and solar-plus-storage solutions through its EI Residential product line. Founded in 2007 and headquartered in Campbell, California, Tigo serves solar equipment manufacturers, distributors, installers, and system owners in markets around the world. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:03Good afternoon. Welcome to Tigo Energy's fiscal Q3 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Joining us today for Tigo is Zvi Alon, CEO, and Bill Roeschlein, CFO. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Bill Roeschlein, Chief Financial Officer. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:00:31Thank you, Operator. We would like to remind everyone that some of the matters we'll discuss on this call, including our expected business outlook, our ability to increase our revenues and become profitable, and our overall long-term growth prospects, expectations regarding the recovery in our industry, including the timing thereof, statements about our demand for our products, our competitive position and market share, our current and future inventory levels and reserves, and their impact on future financial results, inventory supply and its impact on our customer shipments and our revenue and Adjusted EBITDA for the Q4 of 2024, Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:01:08our ability to penetrate new markets and expand our market share, including expansion in international markets, investments in our product portfolio, our forward-looking statements, and as such, are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to those factors described in today's press release and discussed in the risk factors section of our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2023, our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter ended September 30th, 2024, and other reports we may file with the SEC from time to time. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:01:45These risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed on the call. These forward-looking statements are made only as of the date when made. During our call today, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. We include non-GAAP to GAAP reconciliations in our press release furnished as an exhibit to our Form 8-K. The non-GAAP financial measures provided should not be considered as a substitute for or superior to the measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being webcast, and a recording will be made available for replay at Tigo's Investor Relations website at investors.tigoenergy.com. With that, I'd like to now turn the call over to Tigo CEO Zvi Alon. Zvi? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:02:35Thank you, Bill. To begin today's discussion, I will highlight key results in our recent performance as well as provide some commentary on market trends and conditions before turning the call over to our CFO, Bill Roeschlein. He will discuss our financial results for the quarter in more depth as well as provide our outlook for the Q4 of 2024. After that, I will share some closing remarks before opening the call for questions. Okay, let's get started. Since the Q4 of 2023, we have experienced increased quarterly revenue growth in each of the last three quarters of 2024. In addition to benefiting from the improved conditions in the solar industry, we are also gaining market share as illustrated by recent industry data showing Tigo's global DC optimizer market share increasing from 9% in 2022 to 13% in 2023. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:03:48A key area of focus for us has been within the utility-scale market, where we are seeing good success as evidenced by the recent selection of Tigo to deliver more than 97,000 MLPE units for Brazil's largest floating system, which includes our newest TS4-X-O devices. As we shared with you last quarter, the TS4-X-O is our newest MLPE device, which we believe is ideally positioned to address the high-reflection bifacial platform as one of the ones that we are using in Brazil. Meanwhile, we expect to complete the final delivery to our EPC customer this quarter for the previously announced 142 megawatt utility-scale project in Spain. We continue to see positive trends coming from this market and have a strong pipeline of opportunities, which we hope to talk about in more details in the future. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:05:03Another key focus area is within our EI software solution, where our PredictPlus AI-based energy consumption and production platform continues to grow with 62,000 meters under management. During the quarter, we signed six new contracts having a total multi-year contract value of $700,000. Most contracts are for five years, and both new contracts and additional meters enable us to increase our annual recurring revenue, or ARR, which now stands at $1.3 million per year. To give some geographical color on our results, we saw positive sales growth in the Czech Republic, Spain, and the United Kingdom during the quarter. We also saw solid sales growth in Puerto Rico and announced a new partnership in Costa Rica driven by increasing regulatory requirements for rapid shutdown capability. Which exhibits some volatility on a quarter-over-quarter basis, we saw some notable sales growth in both Thailand and Australia. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:06:30Expanding our sales footprint into new markets has been a key area and focus for us as we are seeing the benefits. Additionally, these regions I mentioned are helping us offset the sluggish or negative growth we are seeing in some other larger markets, including Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands. Bill will have some additional or more details in a minute. Lastly, we welcome Anita Chang back as our Chief Operating Officer, who originally joined Tigo in 2015 as VP Operations and served as the COO from 2020 to 2023. We are confident that her extensive experience and knowledge of supply chain operations in the industry will make her a key asset in driving operations forward. And with that, I would like to turn to Bill. Bill? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:07:35Thanks, Zvi. Turning now to our financial results for the Q3 ended September 30th, 2024. Revenue for the Q3 of 2024 decreased 16.8% to $14.2 million from $17.1 million in the prior year period. On a sequential basis, revenues increased 12.1%, with improved results coming from many countries in the EMEA and APAC regions, including the Czech Republic, Spain, the U.K., Thailand, and Australia. By region, EMEA revenue was $8.6 million, or 60% of total revenues, a 23.5% sequential increase. Americas revenue was $2.9 million, or 21% of total revenues, a 3.7% sequential increase. And APAC revenue was $2.7 million, or 19% of total revenues, a decline of 7% sequentially. Gross profit in the Q3 of 2024 was $1.8 million, or 12.5% of revenue, compared to $4.2 million, or 24.3% of revenue in the comparable year-ago period. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:08:45The year-over-year decline was primarily due to an inventory charge of $3.4 million, primarily for battery inventory. The charge reflects management's estimate of the inventory's net realizable value and incorporates current and future expectations of the battery pricing environment. Total operating expenses for the Q3 declined 20.7% to $12.2 million, compared to $15.4 million in the prior year period. The decline was driven primarily by our previously announced cost-cutting efforts. Operating loss for the Q3 decreased by 7.2% to $10.4 million, compared to $11.2 million in the prior year period. GAAP net loss for the Q3 was $13.1 million, compared to a net income of $29.1 million in the prior year period. As a reminder, the prior year period reflected a mark-to-market adjustment for our convertible note. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:09:50Adjusted EBITDA loss for the Q3 decreased 12.7% to $8.3 million, compared to adjusted EBITDA loss of $9.5 million in the prior year period. Our adjusted EBITDA loss includes the previously mentioned inventory charge of $3.4 million. As a reminder, adjusted EBITDA represents operating profit or loss as adjusted for depreciation, amortization, stock-based compensation, and M&A transaction expenses. Primary shares outstanding were 60.7 million for the Q3 of 2024. Turning now to the balance sheet, accounts receivable, net increased this quarter to $8.8 million, compared to $6.9 million last quarter, and decreased from $20.4 million in the year-ago comparable period. Inventory, net decreased by $4.5 million, or 8.8%, compared to $51.3 million last quarter and $57.4 million in the year-ago comparable period. Cash, cash equivalents, and short- and long-term marketable securities totaled $19.5 million at September 30th, 2024. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:10:59On a sequential basis, we reduced our cash burn rate, with cash declining by $0.7 million as we continue to make progress on reducing our inventory and working capital. Before I turn the call back over to Zvi, I will now take a few minutes to provide our financial outlook for the 2024 Q4. As a reminder, Tigo provides quarterly guidance for revenue as well as Adjusted EBITDA, as we believe these metrics to be key indicators for the overall performance of our business. For the Q4 of 2024, we expect revenues and Adjusted EBITDA to be in the following range. We expect revenues in the Q4 ended December 31st, 2024, to range between $14 million and $17 million. We expect Adjusted EBITDA loss to range between $6.5 million and $8.5 million. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:11:50Our guidance includes the potential need for additional inventory charges as we complete our year-end audit. The continued positive momentum that we are seeing in our business and the growth initiatives that are being undertaken to gain market share provide confidence that we will achieve profitable growth in the near future, and we look forward to sharing further updates as we progress through the rest of 2024 and into 2025. That completes my summary, and I'd like to now turn the call over back to Zvi for final remarks. Zvi? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:12:23Thanks, Bill. While industry is still contending with the headwinds, we believe that our robust product portfolio positions us to mitigate competitive pressure. As demand for our solutions continues to return, we expect revenue and profitability to increase steadily throughout the remainder of 2024 and into 2025. We are encouraged by the momentum we have built over the last three quarters and remain focused on advancing our mission to be a leading provider of intelligent solar and energy storage solutions. We firmly believe in the growth prospect of our business and look forward to providing additional updates in the coming quarter. With that, operator, please open the call for Q&A. Operator00:13:20Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Philip Shen of Roth Capital Partners. Your line is now open. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:13:54Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Wanted to check in with you on the outlook for margins, especially as we get through 2025. The margins were quite low in Q3. Q4, we can get to an implied margin for gross margins. If you can share what you think that is, that'd be great. But then what do you think the cadence of revenue and margins is on a quarterly basis through 2025? Thanks. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:14:22Hi, Phil. Well, given that we have an outsourced manufacturing model, our margins on a normalized basis without inventory charges and things like that are in the mid-30s. And so if you factor out the inventory charge, for instance, this quarter, we would have been around 35%. So if we look to next year, that's where we would expect our margins to be on a normalized basis. And as we get more economy of scale, as revenue grows, that number can grow into the high 30s and hopefully reach our target of 40%, which was closer to where we were at the high point in Q2 of 2023. In terms of the growth and how we get there, you can look at it just mathematically in several different ways. I'll point out a couple of things. Our Q4 guidance is flat up 20%, 19.4%, actually. The midpoint's up 10%. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:15:34The current quarter, we were up 12.1%. The previous quarter, we were up almost 30%. So you can model it a variety of different ways of either mid-teens, which is sort of basically where we are at now, with some acceleration into high teens to 20%. And you can see where the model would take on a sequential basis of continuing to do that each quarter. You can see that we would have year-over-year growth of anywhere from 70% to 90% to 100% growth that gives us a revenue rate that's in that $30 million-plus area which we had previously talked about and where EBITDA break-even is. And so that's how we're thinking about the business, and we're steadily marching towards that. We're making progress, and we're continuing to go in the right direction. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:16:30Of course, the macro picture is something we can't control, but that's how we're thinking of the business as we move into 2025. And we're pretty happy about the progress that we've made so far. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:16:43Okay. Thanks, Bill. Back in August, you guys talked about the channel inventory being largely cleared. And in this quarter, you're still talking about reducing your inventory. And I think in your 10-Q, you talked about the elevated inventory levels with distributors and overall channel inventory being high. And so I wanted to understand when you think the European channel inventory truly clears. And how many weeks or months do you think is in the channel in Europe? Thanks. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:17:24So yeah, the commentary overall is our channel inventory is mostly cleared. There might be one or two out of the hundred customers, hundreds of customers we have. They may still have some issues, but the channel, primarily as it relates to us, is primarily relatively cleared. We never stuffed it, or I don't want to say the word stuffed. We never got that far ahead of ourselves as maybe some other competitors might have. But overall, channel inventories are still elevated just from a macro perspective because distributors carry multiple vendors. And so if they have a hangover in general and they're having some pressure on their balance sheet, it doesn't necessarily relate to our inventory. It relates to the balance of inventory that they're carrying for the rest of the market there. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:18:28And so we still see that there's some issues with clearing inventory at a macro level with all vendors, but we're not really ascribing it as a symptom of what we're going through right now. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:18:46I would like to also add and highlight, Phil, that I believe at the end of Q1, we showed that we started seeing an increased number of repeat orders from existing customers, distributors, and that has been continuously growing substantially. I would say the majority of the orders we continue to get are repeat orders for new stock that is going into our distributors to supply demand, so from that perspective, the overhang from the last problems we had is almost gone. I would second Bill's point of view. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:19:33Great. Okay. Thank you, Zvi. Sorry if I missed this, but did you reinforce that your EBITDA break-even will be in early H1 2025, first half 2025? That's what you talked about on the Q2 call. Just remind me, are you going to be perhaps later in the year now? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:19:58Yeah. So yeah, I'll answer it now. Whether it occurs in the first half or second half is obviously the trajectory of the growth rate that we achieve. We achieved 30% in Q2, 12% this last quarter. We're guiding anywhere from flat to up 20%. And if I just sort of flatline that number, anywhere between 15%-20%, it suggests that we would be at a break-even level at that 30% number in the second half of the year, not the first half of the year. That being said, we're not making any predictions on the market. It's too unpredictable to just draw a straight line. And so what we said on the last call was first half of the year. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:21:00And so we can't say with definitiveness whether it's going to be first half or second half, but if you look at the progress that we're making, it's going to be in 2025 in our view. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:21:14Great. And then one last question for me in terms of pricing. We recently wrote that SolarEdge stopped running their promotion and just cut their price for their product in Europe by 20%-30% from an ADLP standpoint, authorized distributor list price. And so we've heard others doing that as well, Chinese vendors lowering price as opposed to running promotions. And then SMA, I think, lowered price by 12%-20%. So have you taken any price action recently? I know you guys don't price exactly on per watt; it's on a per unit basis. And I know you guys don't sell. Well, anyway, just if you can speak to how you're approaching pricing, especially given the competitive dynamics, that would be great. Thanks. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:22:12Happy to answer the question. I would summarize it as saying we have not decreased our price. Obviously, we had to, over the last year, use in various positions some discounts in some special cases, but overall, we have not, and as a matter of fact, we are maintaining our prices pretty much the same and the same type of discounts that we have been providing before. I would also highlight that the new product line we introduced, the TS4-X product line, has been introduced at a higher price, and we have seen a very nice uptick in orders for those products. We've heard about SolarEdge and some other suppliers, but we've not been required to respond or make any changes so far in the market. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:23:13Okay. Do you expect a lower price in the coming quarters? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:23:18The answer is no. Philip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital Partners00:23:20Okay. Thank you, Zvi. I'll pass it off. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:23:22Most welcome. Operator00:23:24Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Stine of Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Your line is now open. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:23:35Hi, Zvi. Hi, Bill. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:23:37Hello. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:23:37Hello. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:23:38Hello. So you had mentioned market share for 2022 and 2023, and I can appreciate, given market dislocation and things going on in different countries in Europe, may be tough to answer. But any thoughts on kind of current market share trends? And I would think, especially in Europe, this is where your inverter agnostic architecture would come into play. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:24:06Eric, besides in the industry reports, the third-party reports that validate our gains in market share, us and our main competitor both publish the number of optimizers that we sell each quarter. If you do a comparison of that, and I think we've talked about it a few times on calls, we've almost increased our share against them, going from 10% of their unit volumes to 15%-20%. We continue to see that play out. I mean, we'll analyze the numbers from here in this Q3 as soon as they're published by our competitor, and we'll see what that looks like. Each of the quarters this year so far have demonstrated continued progress in share gain. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:25:04Yep. Okay, so I guess that's what I was getting at. I mean, I guess we will find that out, but it sounds like that is the feeling. I mean, and it does seem like your commentary on balance is a little more positive than some of the others, and maybe that's by specific market, markets that you're in versus others, but to me, I guess that's noteworthy. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:25:29I can shed a bit more light. We have been told, and not just recently, but for the last couple of quarters, that we are the best-selling optimizer in the market in a couple of the European markets, the big ones, better than SolarEdge and better than some of the other guys. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:25:55Got it. Okay. Very helpful, and I guess I'll just keep it to two questions here, but just curious. I mean, I know you've been gaining nice traction on the licensing, the rapid shutdown device. Just maybe if you could talk about the pipeline there, the interest level there, given it's a pretty unique product in the market? Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:26:21So I can tell you, yes, we have been adding licensees to our portfolio, and it has been going steadily over the years. And we get also some insights into numbers that they ship. So it gives us an indication as to how we're doing in the market as well. Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig Hallum00:26:50Got it. Okay. I guess I'll take the rest offline. Thanks. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:26:54Thank you. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:26:56There is one thing I think it's worth highlighting that was discussed in Zvi's prepared remarks, and maybe this is what differentiates us, is that we're able to show growth in some of these newer regions. And it's in spite of sluggishness that you're seeing in the typical large markets, which historically for us have been Germany and Italy. And so as to the question of the cadence of return to EBITDA profitability and the revenue ramp, as those markets return to normalcy, Germany, Italy, and especially those two geographies, that's going to help benefit us as well. And so it benefits everybody. But some of the cadence of growth, because of how large the markets are in those two countries, is going to be a little dependent on the recovery in those two specific areas. Operator00:28:07Thank you. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:28:08Thank you. Operator00:28:09Our next question comes from Samir Joshi of H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Sameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:28:17Thanks. Thanks for taking my question, Bill, Zvi. Bill, actually, just following up on your commentary, my question was going to be around those lines in terms of geography. Into the second half of 2025, how do you see these geographies developing? The 30-35 level that you may be expecting in the second half quarterly, is the contribution for that revenue coming mostly from increased APAC adoption, or are there assumptions of Germany and Italy coming back by that time in these sort of outlook assumptions? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:29:06Yeah, so the current sort of mid-teens growth that we're putting on the board is coming from our ability to land and expand in some of these newer geographies that have been mentioned: Czech Republic, the UK, Australia, with more than 10% of our total, which it hasn't been that large in the recent past, and so we do see a return to more normalcy or to more of a growth pattern as it relates to Germany, which has been sort of just, I would say, sluggish, the sluggish positive, and Italy, which has been going through some internal issues, and the Netherlands, which also having very issues that are specific to that country. But we don't see those markets as we just see it as transitory, so we do believe that there will be improvement in 2025. Once we have improvement in those markets, we're going to be able to incorporate that into our own growth and revenue, and that should bode well for us. Sameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:30:47Understood. Thanks for that. And then I think in your prepared remarks, you mentioned $3.4 million. In addition to mentioning the $3.4 million charge, you mentioned there is likely to be a charge in the next quarter, I mean, the current quarter. What is the directionally? Is it higher than the $3.4 we saw in this quarter? And then part two of that question is, is this charge mainly because of devaluation or reduced prices, or is it because of part of the inventory is going obsolete? Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:31:33So yeah, I'll take your second question first. It's not related to obsolescence. It's related to GO ESS product line, which is comprised of batteries and inverters, which has a much more steeper price curve and degradation in pricing environment. It's much more quite competitive, hyper-competitive. And so in the current quarter, as I mentioned in our prepared remarks, we reduced the carrying cost in order to be able to adapt to the current and future pricing environment and be able to accelerate sales for batteries. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:32:27We also mentioned in my prepared remarks that the guidance incorporates the potential because the analysis has not been done yet, and it's part of a year-end audit of the remaining balance of GO ESS products, which, again, it's GO ESS line that carries more of the pricing risk because it does have some degradation in pricing compared to our legacy TS4 line, which we haven't changed prices on in more than five years, and it represents very stable pricing for us. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:33:08So every time we get asked the question of, "Are you seeing changes in pricing and competition there?" in general, for TS4s, no. We have a very differentiated product that separates us from the rest of the pack with that product. But in batteries and inverters, as you know, there's a lot more players involved. And so we have to be able to adapt to the current pricing environment. And that's why we put that out there as a potential marker for investors to be aware of in Q4. Sameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.00:33:52Understood. Thanks, Bill, for that clarification and good luck for the next quarter. Bill RoeschleinCFO at Tigo Energy00:33:57Thank you. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:33:58Thank you. Operator00:34:01Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by. At this time, I am showing no further questions. I would now like to turn it back to Bill for closing remarks. Zvi AlonCEO and Chairman at Tigo Energy00:34:32Thanks again, everyone, for joining us today. I especially want to thank our dedicated employees for their ongoing contribution, as well as our customers and partners for their continued hard work. I also want to thank the investors for their continued support. Operator? Operator00:34:55Thank you for joining us today for Tigo's Q3.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesZvi AlonCEO and ChairmanBill RoeschleinCFOAnalystsSameer JoshiSenior Equity Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright & Co.Eric StineSenior Research Analyst at Craig HallumPhilip ShenManaging Director, Senior Research Analyst at Roth Capital PartnersPowered by