NASDAQ:FSBC Five Star Bancorp Q4 2024 Earnings Report $44.47 -0.24 (-0.54%) Closing price 09/18/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$44.53 +0.06 (+0.13%) As of 09/18/2026 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Five Star Bancorp EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.63Consensus EPS $0.59Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/AFive Star Bancorp Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$34.09 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AFive Star Bancorp Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date1/27/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, January 28, 2025Conference Call Time1:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsFive Star Bancorp's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Monday, October 26, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, October 27, 2026 at 1:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Five Star Bancorp Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 28, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways 5 Star Bancorp achieved 14.6% YoY loan growth (up $451 M) and 17.6% YoY deposit growth (up $531.1 M), while maintaining a stable net interest margin at 3.32% for the year. The bank expanded its presence in the San Francisco market by opening a full‐service office in the Financial District, adding 18 seasoned professionals, and planning further hiring in the East Bay. Underwriting discipline drove strong asset quality, with a 49.92% CRE LTV, nonperforming loans at just 0.05%, and an allowance for credit losses of 1.07% of outstanding loans. Operational efficiency remained a highlight, delivering a 41.21% efficiency ratio, a quarterly dividend of $0.20 per share, and a Common Equity Tier 1 capital ratio of 11.2%. Looking ahead to 2025, management is targeting approximately 8% annual growth in both loans and deposits, expects modest margin expansion and operating leverage, and remains confident in its long-term strategy. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallFive Star Bancorp Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to Five Star Bancorp Fourth Quarter and Year-End Earnings Webcast. Please note this is a closed conference call and you are encouraged to listen via the webcast. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity for those provided with a dial-in number to ask questions. To ask a question you may press star and then one on your telephone keypads. To withdraw your questions you may press star and two. Before we get started, we would like to remind you that today's meeting will include some forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. These forward-looking statements relate to, among other things, current plans, expectations, events and industry trends that may affect the Company's future operating results and financial position. Such statement and uncertainty activities and results may differ materially from these expectations. Operator00:00:57For a more complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the Company's forward-looking statements, please see the Company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023 and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q for the three months ended March 31, 2024, June 30, 2024 and September 30, 2024. In particular, the information set forth in Item 1A Risk Factors in those reports. Please refer to slide two of the presentation which includes disclaimers regarding forward-looking statements, industry data and non-GAAP financial information included in this presentation. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP figures are included in the appendix to the presentation. Please also note today's event is being recorded at this time. I'd like to turn the floor over to James Beckwith, Five Star Bancorp President and CEO. Operator00:01:58Please go ahead. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:02:01Thank you for joining us to review Five Star Bancorp's financial results for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2024. Joining me today is Heather Luck, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our comments today will refer to the financial information that was included in the earnings announcement released yesterday. To obtain a copy of the release, please visit our website at fivestarbank.com and click on the Investor Relations tab. 2024 was another outstanding year of achievement underpinned by successful continuation of our San Francisco market expansion. In addition to opening a full service office in San Francisco's Financial District on September 3, 2024, we added 18 more seasoned professionals during 2024 to support the expansion. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:02:59We also continue to add new core deposit accounts and relationships across our full footprint as seen in the growth of non-wholesale deposits of $331.3 million during the year ended December 31, 2024. In the fourth quarter, we maintained our ability to conservatively underwrite as evidenced by our 49.92% LTV on commercial real estate, manage expenses with our 41.21% efficiency ratio, and deliver value to shareholders with our $0.20 per share dividend for each quarter of 2024. Additionally, in the fourth quarter we were able to maintain our net interest margin, which decreased by only one basis point, and grow our total loans, assets and deposits over prior periods. Loans held for investment increased during the quarter by $72.1 million or 2.08% from the prior quarter and increased $451 million, or 14.63% year-over-year. Average loan yields improved each quarter in both 2023 and 2024. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:04:24Consumer and other concentrations of the loan portfolio increased most significantly year-over-year from 1.2% as of December 31, 2023 to 7.9% as of December 31, 2024 due to purchased consumer loans. The commercial real estate concentration of the real estate portfolio decreased year-over-year from 86.76% as of December 31, 2023 to 80.75% as of December 31, 2024. Our commercial real estate concentration is differentiated by diversification within the portfolio and our ability to conservatively underwrite as evidenced by a 49.92% LTV. Our pipeline continues to remain solid at the end of 2024 within the verticals in which we have historically operated. Loan originations during the quarter were $263.3 million, while payoffs and paydowns were $72.5 million and $118.7 million, respectively. During 2024, loan originations were $1.1 billion and payoffs and paydowns were $263 million and $423 million, respectively. Asset quality continues to remain strong. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:06:00Non-performing loans remained at 0.05% of loans held for investment at period end as compared to 0.05% at the end of the prior quarter and 0.06% at the end of the prior year. As of December 31, 2024, the Allowance for Credit Losses totaled $37.8 million. We recorded a $1.3 million provision for credit losses during the fourth quarter primarily related to loan growth for a total provision for credit losses of $7 million for the year ended December 31, 2024. The ratio of Allowance for Credit Losses to total loans held for investment was 1.07% at year end. Loans designated as substandard or doubtful totaled 20 point. Excuse me, 2.6 million at the end of 2024 representing an increase of approximately 0.8 million from the prior quarter and an increase of approximately 0.7 million from the previous year end. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:07:14During the fourth quarter, deposits increased by $158 million or 4.65%. During 2024, deposits increased by $531.1 million or 17.55%. The year-over-year increase was largely driven by increases in money market, time, and non-interest-bearing demand deposits, partially offset by decreases in interest-bearing demand and savings deposits. Non-interest-bearing deposits as a percent of total deposits decreased to 25.93% at the end of the fourth quarter from 26.67% at the end of the prior quarter and 27% at the end of the prior year. As noted earlier, we are pleased that we had a net non-wholesale deposit inflow for the year ended December 31, 2024. Our ability to grow deposit accounts supports our differentiated customer-centric model that our customers trust and value, as seen through the mix of high-dollar accounts and the duration of certain customer relationships. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:08:32We believe we have a reliable core deposit base. To offer more detail on our deposit composition, I want to highlight that the deposit relationships totaling greater than $5 million constituted 61.13% of our total deposits and the average age on these accounts was approximately 9.28 years as of December 31, 2024. Local agency deposits accounted for 23% of deposits as of December 31, 2024. Overall deposit balances have increased when compared to the prior quarter. Wholesale deposits, which we defined as broker deposits and public time deposits, increased by $150 million or 36.59% quarter-over-quarter. Non-wholesale deposits increased by $8 million or 0.27% driven by a $15.7 million increase in non-interest-bearing deposits partially offset by a $7.7 million decrease in non-wholesale interest-bearing deposits compared to the prior quarter. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:09:48Cost of total deposits was 258 basis points during the fourth quarter of 2024 and 255 basis points for the year. We continue to be well capitalized with all capital ratios well above regulatory thresholds for the quarter and the year. Our Common Equity Tier 1 ratio increased from 10.93% to 11.2% between September 30, 2024 and December 31, 2024. On January 16, 2025, our board declared a cash dividend of $0.20 per share on the company's common voting stock expected to be paid on February 10, 2025 to shareholders of record as of February 3. On that note, I will hand it over to Heather to discuss the results of operations. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:10:49Heather, thank you, James, and hello everyone. Net income for the quarter was $13.3 million. Return on average assets was 1.31% and return on average equity was 13.48%. Net income for the year was $45.7 million. Return on average assets was 1.23% and return on average equity was 12.72%. Average loan yield for the quarter was 6.01%, representing an increase of 3 basis points over the prior quarter. Average yield on loans for 2024 was 5.89%, representing an increase of 37 basis points over 2023. Our net interest margin was 3.36% for the quarter, while net interest margin for the prior quarter was 3.37%. Our net interest margin was 3.32% for the year while net interest margin for the prior year was 3.42% as a result of changes in interest rates and other factors. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:12:05Our other comprehensive loss was $2.6 million during the three months ended December 31, 2024 as unrealized losses net of tax effect increased on available-for-sale debt securities from $9.7 million as of September 30, 2024 to $12.4 million as of December 31, 2024. Non-interest income increased to $1.7 million in the fourth quarter from $1.4 million in the previous quarter due primarily to income received on equity investments and venture-backed funds during the three months ended December 31, 2024 combined with a loss from equity investments in venture-backed funds during the three months ended September 30, 2024. Non-interest income decreased to $6.5 million in 2024 from $7.5 million in 2023 due primarily to lower income received on equity investments in venture-backed funds during the year. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:13:13Noninterest expense increased to $14.5 million in the fourth quarter from $13.8 million in the previous quarter due primarily to increased commissions related to higher loan production and increased advertising and promotional expenses. Noninterest income increased from $47.8 million in 2023 to $54.5 million in 2024 due primarily to an increase in salaries and employee benefits related to our expansion in the San Francisco Bay Area. Now that we've discussed the overall results of operations, I will hand it back to James to provide some closing remarks. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:13:55Thank you, Heather. I want to thank everyone for joining us as we discussed fourth quarter and year-end results. Five Star Bank has built a reputation on trust, speed to serve, and certainty of execution which support our client's success. Our financial performance is the result of a truly differentiated customer experience which continues to power the demand for Five Star Bank's relationship-based services. We are very proud to have earned the trust of those we serve, including our shareholders. Looking to 2025, we are confident in the company's resilience in any environment and remain focused on the future and our long-term strategy. We will continue to execute on our organic growth and disciplined business practices which we believe will benefit our customers, employees, community, and shareholders. We appreciate your time today. This concludes today's presentation. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:14:58Now Heather and I will be happy to take any questions that you may have. Operator00:15:06Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, those dialed in may press star and one on your telephone keypads. If you are using a speakerphone, we. Operator00:15:17I ask that you please pick up. Operator00:15:18the handset prior to pressing the keys to ensure the best sound quality. To withdraw your question, you may press star then two. Questions will be taken in the order in which they are received. Our first question today comes from Will Jones from KBW. Please go ahead with your question. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:15:37Yeah, hey, thanks for the question. Subbing in for Woody later this afternoon. I just wanted to start on deposits. Another quarter of really strong growth though. I know it was really kind of a largely wholesale fund quarter. Just hoping you could give us a little bit of the flavor for tender deposits that you brought on, like whether it be duration or cost of the incremental deposits this quarter. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:02Sure. As we pointed out and as you referenced, for the most part, our composite growth was on the wholesale side. And what we've chosen to do is to remain pretty short on those certificates of deposits. And we've kind of set up. Will, if you, you know, if you can imagine this kind of a rolling every three months repricing of those deposits, they come due. So they're very short term CDs. And so we think with that structure with our wholesale deposits, which are CDs, all of them are CDs, Heather. Right. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:43Yes. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:43We think that we'll be able to take advantage of any rate cuts that may occur in 2025, just like we did in the fourth quarter. So that's really kind of how they're set up, Will. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:58The cost of those deposits are, you know, they're probably sitting right on top of Treasuries when we did them. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:17:05Yeah. So right now the weighted average rate for that portfolio and there's about $560 million in there is 4.59%. And they'll reprice, as James noted, on a three-month basis. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:17:17Right. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:17:19Okay, great. That is all very helpful, and then as you just kind of look into 2025 and you kind of think about your growth plans, how are you thinking about the ability to generate organic core deposits? I feel like there's this floating narrative out there that as the industry as a whole kind of reignites itself into a state of growth, that the competition for deposits is only going to increase into the year, so maybe if you could just give me any commentary on how maybe you kind of view like the competitive landscape unfolding in 2025 and then what is the ultimate outlook for the ability to grow core deposits? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:17:59Thank you. Sure. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:18:02You know, this business is always very competitive, so we're not necessarily seeing any great changes. You know, we fight it day in and day out in all the markets in the verticals in which we serve. You know, there's nothing that's easy in terms of attraction of core deposits. And it is the most challenging aspect of being in commercial banking right now. So as we look to 2025 in terms of our growth, we're targeting about an 8% annual growth rate that might be kind of chunky, but we think that that's probably the best sense of what it might be. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:18:52Yeah. Okay, that's great. And then lastly from you, I just wanted to touch on expenses. I know you guys kind of bear one of the best Efficiency Ratios of the banking. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:19:08Thank you for noticing, Will. Thank you for noticing. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:19:11It's hard to miss it. But at the same time, you guys are a growth company and operating leverage has been a little bit more challenging to come by just as you go through this investment period. But as you look to 2025 and maybe the margin has more of an upward slope to it and you kind of look behind and see that a lion's share of the investment in San Francisco has kind of been made and is behind you. Do you feel like operating leverage could be on the table for 2025? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:19:41Sure. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:19:41You know, we do see some slight margin expansion in our future, and so that's, I think, that'll really drop. Most of that will drop to the bottom line. We have invested, to your point, in personnel costs and acquisition of personnel costs, which we may not see that to the same degree in 2025. So we do expect, you know, that group of people of which number 28 people right now to really help us drive growth, but we're excited about growth across our entire platform. As I previously mentioned, we think that we can grow 8% on deposits. We also think we can grow loans by 8%. So that's kind of what we're targeting. So we do see some operating leverage for us. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:20:37Some of the investments that we made last year, you know, I think they're beginning to pay off. We did invest in some new technology which we're very excited about. It's coming to fruition this year. So, yes, I think your point's well taken. We do expect to have slightly increased margins and with growth and given where those earning assets will be put on in terms of yield, we're excited about our future. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:21:09Okay, that's great. Well, not nice here, guys. Thank you for the time. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:21:16Thanks so much. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:21:17Thank you. Operator00:21:19Our next question comes from David Feaster from Raymond James. Please go ahead with your question. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:21:25Hi, good morning, everybody. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:21:27Hey, good morning, David. How are you? David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:21:29Doing great. Doing great. You know, just wanted to follow up on, you know, kind of that loan growth commentary a bit. Look, the increase in originations is very encouraging. I was hoping you could maybe. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:21:42Just how much do you think the. Increase in originations is a function of improving demand versus market share gains, and then, you know, on the other side of the coin, you know, payoffs and pay downs increase too. I'm curious some of the trends you're seeing there is that asset sales, you know, competitive dynamics where some, you know, others might be, you know, refinancing debt elsewhere. Just kind of curious, some of the dynamics that you're seeing underlying that loan growth. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:22:09Yeah, let's just talk about origination side and then we got some commentary on the payoffs and whatnot. So on the origination side, you know, where rates are right now, it's not the most favorable environment, you know, that the five year and the ten year have been, you know, have kind of ticked up over the last part of the year. And then right now they're in terms of one of our businesses, which in our mobile home park business, David, there's not, it's not the greatest environment, but I will say there's still activity happening. And so we're excited about that. I think our loan growth, well, I don't think our loan growth is really driven by, let me use a fishing analogy, how many lines we have in the water. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:22:56We've got a lot of people that are working that are in business development. Right now we've got 31 of them. And given that cadre of professionals that are constantly looking for new relationships and strong relationships while taking care of their existing relationships, we think we have a competitive advantage in terms of growth. And so I think it's really a function of how active we are, how many feet we have on the street. The environment for growth itself, given the interest rate environment, I mean, it's okay. Obviously, people are excited about what's going on in terms of what our president's doing and his administration. So there may be some aspect of what do we call it, Heather? Animal spirits, that's happening, but on all aspects, it's positive. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:23:55Now, on the payoff side, David, part of our business is what happens in a lot of our businesses is that folks will take their debt structures they have on their commercial real estate and take them to agency or life companies or some CMBS market. That's okay. I mean, that's kind of a planned payoff. And so we saw a fair amount of that in the fourth quarter. We'll probably see a little bit of it in the first quarter here. But that's a natural progression in terms of how our commercial real estate portfolio works. And so that just means we have to run a little harder, be more active in order to stay ahead of the game. But we do expect those things to happen year in and year out. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:24:49Okay, that's. That's great color. And maybe following up on your commentary, like looking at the breakdown, you know, your point on manufactured housing, maybe not the greatest environment right now, you know, where do you expect growth to be driven from? You know, it was very diversified this quarter. Do you expect, you know, maybe more diversified CRE production going forward, just, again, as you have more lines in the water, to use your analogy? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:25:19Yeah, I think that's a good point because of the fact that we've got, you know, a lot of people down in the Bay Area looking for deals right now. And we expect that to be very active. And so, you know, year-over-year or two years ago, same time, you know, we expect our originations to be a lot more diversified, to your point. So, you know, it's not that the mobile home park and RV park activity is dead. In fact, it's not. It still represents a big piece of our pipeline. It's just that, you know, we brought on some folks that really will add to the diversification of our originations, which it was. Which is all by design. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:26:06That's great. And then you. You just touched on the Bay Area. I was hoping to get a sense kind of on the pulse there. You've been extremely active, making some market share gains, continuing to hire, already brought on a new person in 2025. Could you just talk about the pulse of that market, what you're seeing there, your ability to continue to gain share and just kind of the plans you have for continued expansion there? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:26:33Sure. First of all, it's a great market and there's still an aspect of, I'm going to say, turmoil and certainly repairing, given what happened at Silicon Valley Bank and First Republic Bank and some of the mergers that have happened and what happened even Signature Bank. So we're still very excited about that. We're providing a great platform for experienced bankers to come join us. And so our next expansion efforts will, you know, from a physical perspective will probably be in the East Bay, most likely in Walnut Creek as we continue to grow. And we're always looking to add talented folks. And I think what's important to note is that success breeds success and word of mouth because bankers do like to talk. And we've created something down there that really has its own momentum right now in terms of business attraction and also talent attraction. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:27:41So that's kind of where we're heading from a geographic perspective, David, down there. But we're interested in the entire Bay Area. The Bay Area is a diverse place. And, you know, you've got the North Bay, you've got San Francisco proper, you've got the Peninsula, you got the South Bay, you've got Silicon Valley, you got East Bay, Oakland, Alameda, you got Walnut Creek, Concord. All these places are different. They're all their own economic nodes. And in order to play in that space and do it effectively, you've got to get people who are very experienced and know their markets and know the customers and know the industries that are there. So that's what we're trying to accomplish down there. And it's exciting. And it's not. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:28:28We're not doing this to diminish what we're doing certainly up in the Capital Region, all the way up into the North State. In fact, we've added a couple people up in Chico that we're excited about. So we continue to grow and develop and we're always looking for talent, David. We never stop doing that. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:28:47That's great. That's great. Good point. Thank you. Operator00:28:54Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and one. Our next question comes from Andrew Terrell from Stephens. Please go ahead with your question. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:29:04Hey, good morning, James. Morning, Heather. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:29:06Hey, good morning, Andrew. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:29:08Just a few questions here. Anything, James, that seasonally impacted the non-wholesale deposits? We saw this quarter up a little bit less than maybe I was expecting. Just wondering if there was any kind of seasonal impact that we should be aware of for the fourth quarter. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:29:25In terms of deposit flows. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:29:27Yeah, deposit flows, non-wholesale. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:29:31Yeah, I think that we saw some geez in the last week. It probably would have a dramatically different result. I think we saw a lot of distributions being made by our commercial customers coming out in the last two weeks of December and the flows were really quite significant. Well over $50 million. And I think that's normal. People are paying out bonuses. A lot of people like to get that done prior to the end of the year for staff. Maybe some of the executives are a little bit later. But that's something that we really picked up on. Notice it wasn't no relationships went away. It's rather just people distributed their cash and so that's what we saw. It was very noticeable. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:30:23Got it. Okay. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. And then when I think about, you know, the parameters you're putting around kind of loan and deposit growth next year, I think you said both expected around that 8%. Just within those two figures, would you assume any runoff of the wholesale deposits, essentially implying that the kind of non wholesale deposit could be better than 8%. And then within loan growth, should we expect any BHG purchases throughout 2025 and were there any in this quarter? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:30:58So there were some in this quarter. And so big picture, what we're trying to maintain is about a $300 million book with BHG, which means we have to be active every quarter to kind of fill up what gets paid off. It's very rapid amortization. So we plan to keep the BHG balances around $300 million. We also plan to keep our wholesale book pretty consistent throughout the whole year. So the strategy there is just to roll, keep rolling those CDs. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:31:29Just to put some context around that, you know, James noted, we're going to stay within that $300 million concentration. For comparison purposes, in Q4 we only purchased $17 million of BHG loans for a total as of year-end at $270 million. That's compared to $109 million purchased in Q3. You can kind of see the level of activity now that we're almost to that level of kind of typical activity that we'll do. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:32:00No diminishment of our wholesale deposit book. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:32:04Got it. Okay. I appreciate it, and then maybe just one more just going back on I think it was Will's point around the efficiency. If I look at the expense growth, past year was, I think, 14% versus 2023 levels. Heather, how should we be thinking about just overall level of expense growth in 2025? Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:32:22Yeah, as James mentioned earlier, you know, we have been investing in not only the Bay Area, but also Sacramento and the Valley and in the North State and also in back office support too to help support all of the new activity and new customers coming in. So I would expect to have for the first half of the year to use Q4's expenses as your proxy. I think that that's a good new baseline for where we expect to be for the first half of this year. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:32:53Got it. Okay. So pretty similar 4Q into the first half and then maybe we'll reassess them depending on kind of hiring and future investments. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:03Correct. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:03Correct. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:06I'm glad you brought that question up because we were just talking about that in terms of, you know, we were opportunistic. Andrew. If a team becomes available, we're going to jump on it. And so, you know, these folks aren't cheap, as you know. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:33:24Yep. Well, you guys have done a great job in remaining opportunistic. So I appreciate it. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:30Thank you. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:31Thank you. Operator00:33:35Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we're going to conclude today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for closing remarks. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:44Great. Thank you. Five Star Bancorp is on a continued path of growth as we execute on strategic initiatives which include growing our verticals and geographies while attracting and retaining talent. Our people, technology, operating efficiencies, conservative underwriting practices and expense management have also contributed to the successes we share with our employees and shareholders. These successes include numerous ratings and awards. Five Star Bank consistently execute on client and community focused initiatives and 2024 was no exception. We received a Super Premier rating from Findley Reports, an IDC Superior rating and a BauerFinancial rating of five stars. We were also awarded the prestigious 2023 Raymond James Community Bankers Cup. We were among S&P Global Market Intelligence 2023 Top 20 Best-Performing Community Banks in the nation, and we are ranked fifth in the 2024 Bank Director magazine Best U.S. Banks with assets less than five billion. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:34:58We also received the Greater Sacramento Economic Council's Sustainability Award recognizing a company that has supported industry growth in the Greater Sacramento region. In 2024, our senior leadership was recognized by the Sacramento Business Journal with the C-Suite Award, a Woman Who Means Business honor, a Forty Under 40 recognition, and placement on the Power 100 list. Our senior leadership was also recognized in the San Francisco Business Times Newsmaker 100 list as part of the Independent Community Bankers 40 Under 40 emerging community bankers, among the Association of Latino Professionals for America's top 50 Most Powerful Latinas, and with the National Association of Women Business Owners Sacramento Valley Outstanding Women Leaders Executive Woman Award. Being recognized as community leaders ensures Five Star Bank remains top of mind in the markets we serve as we continue to build out our market presence. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:36:10I am humbled and proud of our team's accomplishment and look forward to the future. We look forward to speaking with you again in April. Discuss earnings for the first quarter of 2025. Have a great day and thank you for listening. Operator00:36:26Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today's presentation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Welcome to Five Star Bancorp Fourth Quarter and Year-End Earnings Webcast. Please note this is a closed conference call and you are encouraged to listen via the webcast. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity for those provided with a dial-in number to ask questions. To ask a question you may press star and then one on your telephone keypads. To withdraw your questions you may press star and two. Before we get started, we would like to remind you that today's meeting will include some forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. These forward-looking statements relate to, among other things, current plans, expectations, events and industry trends that may affect the Company's future operating results and financial position. Such statement and uncertainty activities and results may differ materially from these expectations. Operator00:00:57For a more complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the Company's forward-looking statements, please see the Company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023 and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q for the three months ended March 31, 2024, June 30, 2024 and September 30, 2024. In particular, the information set forth in Item 1A Risk Factors in those reports. Please refer to slide two of the presentation which includes disclaimers regarding forward-looking statements, industry data and non-GAAP financial information included in this presentation. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP figures are included in the appendix to the presentation. Please also note today's event is being recorded at this time. I'd like to turn the floor over to James Beckwith, Five Star Bancorp President and CEO. Operator00:01:58Please go ahead. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:02:01Thank you for joining us to review Five Star Bancorp's financial results for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2024. Joining me today is Heather Luck, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our comments today will refer to the financial information that was included in the earnings announcement released yesterday. To obtain a copy of the release, please visit our website at fivestarbank.com and click on the Investor Relations tab. 2024 was another outstanding year of achievement underpinned by successful continuation of our San Francisco market expansion. In addition to opening a full service office in San Francisco's Financial District on September 3, 2024, we added 18 more seasoned professionals during 2024 to support the expansion. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:02:59We also continue to add new core deposit accounts and relationships across our full footprint as seen in the growth of non-wholesale deposits of $331.3 million during the year ended December 31, 2024. In the fourth quarter, we maintained our ability to conservatively underwrite as evidenced by our 49.92% LTV on commercial real estate, manage expenses with our 41.21% efficiency ratio, and deliver value to shareholders with our $0.20 per share dividend for each quarter of 2024. Additionally, in the fourth quarter we were able to maintain our net interest margin, which decreased by only one basis point, and grow our total loans, assets and deposits over prior periods. Loans held for investment increased during the quarter by $72.1 million or 2.08% from the prior quarter and increased $451 million, or 14.63% year-over-year. Average loan yields improved each quarter in both 2023 and 2024. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:04:24Consumer and other concentrations of the loan portfolio increased most significantly year-over-year from 1.2% as of December 31, 2023 to 7.9% as of December 31, 2024 due to purchased consumer loans. The commercial real estate concentration of the real estate portfolio decreased year-over-year from 86.76% as of December 31, 2023 to 80.75% as of December 31, 2024. Our commercial real estate concentration is differentiated by diversification within the portfolio and our ability to conservatively underwrite as evidenced by a 49.92% LTV. Our pipeline continues to remain solid at the end of 2024 within the verticals in which we have historically operated. Loan originations during the quarter were $263.3 million, while payoffs and paydowns were $72.5 million and $118.7 million, respectively. During 2024, loan originations were $1.1 billion and payoffs and paydowns were $263 million and $423 million, respectively. Asset quality continues to remain strong. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:06:00Non-performing loans remained at 0.05% of loans held for investment at period end as compared to 0.05% at the end of the prior quarter and 0.06% at the end of the prior year. As of December 31, 2024, the Allowance for Credit Losses totaled $37.8 million. We recorded a $1.3 million provision for credit losses during the fourth quarter primarily related to loan growth for a total provision for credit losses of $7 million for the year ended December 31, 2024. The ratio of Allowance for Credit Losses to total loans held for investment was 1.07% at year end. Loans designated as substandard or doubtful totaled 20 point. Excuse me, 2.6 million at the end of 2024 representing an increase of approximately 0.8 million from the prior quarter and an increase of approximately 0.7 million from the previous year end. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:07:14During the fourth quarter, deposits increased by $158 million or 4.65%. During 2024, deposits increased by $531.1 million or 17.55%. The year-over-year increase was largely driven by increases in money market, time, and non-interest-bearing demand deposits, partially offset by decreases in interest-bearing demand and savings deposits. Non-interest-bearing deposits as a percent of total deposits decreased to 25.93% at the end of the fourth quarter from 26.67% at the end of the prior quarter and 27% at the end of the prior year. As noted earlier, we are pleased that we had a net non-wholesale deposit inflow for the year ended December 31, 2024. Our ability to grow deposit accounts supports our differentiated customer-centric model that our customers trust and value, as seen through the mix of high-dollar accounts and the duration of certain customer relationships. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:08:32We believe we have a reliable core deposit base. To offer more detail on our deposit composition, I want to highlight that the deposit relationships totaling greater than $5 million constituted 61.13% of our total deposits and the average age on these accounts was approximately 9.28 years as of December 31, 2024. Local agency deposits accounted for 23% of deposits as of December 31, 2024. Overall deposit balances have increased when compared to the prior quarter. Wholesale deposits, which we defined as broker deposits and public time deposits, increased by $150 million or 36.59% quarter-over-quarter. Non-wholesale deposits increased by $8 million or 0.27% driven by a $15.7 million increase in non-interest-bearing deposits partially offset by a $7.7 million decrease in non-wholesale interest-bearing deposits compared to the prior quarter. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:09:48Cost of total deposits was 258 basis points during the fourth quarter of 2024 and 255 basis points for the year. We continue to be well capitalized with all capital ratios well above regulatory thresholds for the quarter and the year. Our Common Equity Tier 1 ratio increased from 10.93% to 11.2% between September 30, 2024 and December 31, 2024. On January 16, 2025, our board declared a cash dividend of $0.20 per share on the company's common voting stock expected to be paid on February 10, 2025 to shareholders of record as of February 3. On that note, I will hand it over to Heather to discuss the results of operations. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:10:49Heather, thank you, James, and hello everyone. Net income for the quarter was $13.3 million. Return on average assets was 1.31% and return on average equity was 13.48%. Net income for the year was $45.7 million. Return on average assets was 1.23% and return on average equity was 12.72%. Average loan yield for the quarter was 6.01%, representing an increase of 3 basis points over the prior quarter. Average yield on loans for 2024 was 5.89%, representing an increase of 37 basis points over 2023. Our net interest margin was 3.36% for the quarter, while net interest margin for the prior quarter was 3.37%. Our net interest margin was 3.32% for the year while net interest margin for the prior year was 3.42% as a result of changes in interest rates and other factors. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:12:05Our other comprehensive loss was $2.6 million during the three months ended December 31, 2024 as unrealized losses net of tax effect increased on available-for-sale debt securities from $9.7 million as of September 30, 2024 to $12.4 million as of December 31, 2024. Non-interest income increased to $1.7 million in the fourth quarter from $1.4 million in the previous quarter due primarily to income received on equity investments and venture-backed funds during the three months ended December 31, 2024 combined with a loss from equity investments in venture-backed funds during the three months ended September 30, 2024. Non-interest income decreased to $6.5 million in 2024 from $7.5 million in 2023 due primarily to lower income received on equity investments in venture-backed funds during the year. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:13:13Noninterest expense increased to $14.5 million in the fourth quarter from $13.8 million in the previous quarter due primarily to increased commissions related to higher loan production and increased advertising and promotional expenses. Noninterest income increased from $47.8 million in 2023 to $54.5 million in 2024 due primarily to an increase in salaries and employee benefits related to our expansion in the San Francisco Bay Area. Now that we've discussed the overall results of operations, I will hand it back to James to provide some closing remarks. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:13:55Thank you, Heather. I want to thank everyone for joining us as we discussed fourth quarter and year-end results. Five Star Bank has built a reputation on trust, speed to serve, and certainty of execution which support our client's success. Our financial performance is the result of a truly differentiated customer experience which continues to power the demand for Five Star Bank's relationship-based services. We are very proud to have earned the trust of those we serve, including our shareholders. Looking to 2025, we are confident in the company's resilience in any environment and remain focused on the future and our long-term strategy. We will continue to execute on our organic growth and disciplined business practices which we believe will benefit our customers, employees, community, and shareholders. We appreciate your time today. This concludes today's presentation. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:14:58Now Heather and I will be happy to take any questions that you may have. Operator00:15:06Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, those dialed in may press star and one on your telephone keypads. If you are using a speakerphone, we. Operator00:15:17I ask that you please pick up. Operator00:15:18the handset prior to pressing the keys to ensure the best sound quality. To withdraw your question, you may press star then two. Questions will be taken in the order in which they are received. Our first question today comes from Will Jones from KBW. Please go ahead with your question. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:15:37Yeah, hey, thanks for the question. Subbing in for Woody later this afternoon. I just wanted to start on deposits. Another quarter of really strong growth though. I know it was really kind of a largely wholesale fund quarter. Just hoping you could give us a little bit of the flavor for tender deposits that you brought on, like whether it be duration or cost of the incremental deposits this quarter. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:02Sure. As we pointed out and as you referenced, for the most part, our composite growth was on the wholesale side. And what we've chosen to do is to remain pretty short on those certificates of deposits. And we've kind of set up. Will, if you, you know, if you can imagine this kind of a rolling every three months repricing of those deposits, they come due. So they're very short term CDs. And so we think with that structure with our wholesale deposits, which are CDs, all of them are CDs, Heather. Right. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:43Yes. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:43We think that we'll be able to take advantage of any rate cuts that may occur in 2025, just like we did in the fourth quarter. So that's really kind of how they're set up, Will. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:16:58The cost of those deposits are, you know, they're probably sitting right on top of Treasuries when we did them. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:17:05Yeah. So right now the weighted average rate for that portfolio and there's about $560 million in there is 4.59%. And they'll reprice, as James noted, on a three-month basis. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:17:17Right. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:17:19Okay, great. That is all very helpful, and then as you just kind of look into 2025 and you kind of think about your growth plans, how are you thinking about the ability to generate organic core deposits? I feel like there's this floating narrative out there that as the industry as a whole kind of reignites itself into a state of growth, that the competition for deposits is only going to increase into the year, so maybe if you could just give me any commentary on how maybe you kind of view like the competitive landscape unfolding in 2025 and then what is the ultimate outlook for the ability to grow core deposits? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:17:59Thank you. Sure. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:18:02You know, this business is always very competitive, so we're not necessarily seeing any great changes. You know, we fight it day in and day out in all the markets in the verticals in which we serve. You know, there's nothing that's easy in terms of attraction of core deposits. And it is the most challenging aspect of being in commercial banking right now. So as we look to 2025 in terms of our growth, we're targeting about an 8% annual growth rate that might be kind of chunky, but we think that that's probably the best sense of what it might be. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:18:52Yeah. Okay, that's great. And then lastly from you, I just wanted to touch on expenses. I know you guys kind of bear one of the best Efficiency Ratios of the banking. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:19:08Thank you for noticing, Will. Thank you for noticing. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:19:11It's hard to miss it. But at the same time, you guys are a growth company and operating leverage has been a little bit more challenging to come by just as you go through this investment period. But as you look to 2025 and maybe the margin has more of an upward slope to it and you kind of look behind and see that a lion's share of the investment in San Francisco has kind of been made and is behind you. Do you feel like operating leverage could be on the table for 2025? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:19:41Sure. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:19:41You know, we do see some slight margin expansion in our future, and so that's, I think, that'll really drop. Most of that will drop to the bottom line. We have invested, to your point, in personnel costs and acquisition of personnel costs, which we may not see that to the same degree in 2025. So we do expect, you know, that group of people of which number 28 people right now to really help us drive growth, but we're excited about growth across our entire platform. As I previously mentioned, we think that we can grow 8% on deposits. We also think we can grow loans by 8%. So that's kind of what we're targeting. So we do see some operating leverage for us. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:20:37Some of the investments that we made last year, you know, I think they're beginning to pay off. We did invest in some new technology which we're very excited about. It's coming to fruition this year. So, yes, I think your point's well taken. We do expect to have slightly increased margins and with growth and given where those earning assets will be put on in terms of yield, we're excited about our future. Will JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBW00:21:09Okay, that's great. Well, not nice here, guys. Thank you for the time. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:21:16Thanks so much. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:21:17Thank you. Operator00:21:19Our next question comes from David Feaster from Raymond James. Please go ahead with your question. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:21:25Hi, good morning, everybody. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:21:27Hey, good morning, David. How are you? David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:21:29Doing great. Doing great. You know, just wanted to follow up on, you know, kind of that loan growth commentary a bit. Look, the increase in originations is very encouraging. I was hoping you could maybe. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:21:42Just how much do you think the. Increase in originations is a function of improving demand versus market share gains, and then, you know, on the other side of the coin, you know, payoffs and pay downs increase too. I'm curious some of the trends you're seeing there is that asset sales, you know, competitive dynamics where some, you know, others might be, you know, refinancing debt elsewhere. Just kind of curious, some of the dynamics that you're seeing underlying that loan growth. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:22:09Yeah, let's just talk about origination side and then we got some commentary on the payoffs and whatnot. So on the origination side, you know, where rates are right now, it's not the most favorable environment, you know, that the five year and the ten year have been, you know, have kind of ticked up over the last part of the year. And then right now they're in terms of one of our businesses, which in our mobile home park business, David, there's not, it's not the greatest environment, but I will say there's still activity happening. And so we're excited about that. I think our loan growth, well, I don't think our loan growth is really driven by, let me use a fishing analogy, how many lines we have in the water. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:22:56We've got a lot of people that are working that are in business development. Right now we've got 31 of them. And given that cadre of professionals that are constantly looking for new relationships and strong relationships while taking care of their existing relationships, we think we have a competitive advantage in terms of growth. And so I think it's really a function of how active we are, how many feet we have on the street. The environment for growth itself, given the interest rate environment, I mean, it's okay. Obviously, people are excited about what's going on in terms of what our president's doing and his administration. So there may be some aspect of what do we call it, Heather? Animal spirits, that's happening, but on all aspects, it's positive. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:23:55Now, on the payoff side, David, part of our business is what happens in a lot of our businesses is that folks will take their debt structures they have on their commercial real estate and take them to agency or life companies or some CMBS market. That's okay. I mean, that's kind of a planned payoff. And so we saw a fair amount of that in the fourth quarter. We'll probably see a little bit of it in the first quarter here. But that's a natural progression in terms of how our commercial real estate portfolio works. And so that just means we have to run a little harder, be more active in order to stay ahead of the game. But we do expect those things to happen year in and year out. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:24:49Okay, that's. That's great color. And maybe following up on your commentary, like looking at the breakdown, you know, your point on manufactured housing, maybe not the greatest environment right now, you know, where do you expect growth to be driven from? You know, it was very diversified this quarter. Do you expect, you know, maybe more diversified CRE production going forward, just, again, as you have more lines in the water, to use your analogy? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:25:19Yeah, I think that's a good point because of the fact that we've got, you know, a lot of people down in the Bay Area looking for deals right now. And we expect that to be very active. And so, you know, year-over-year or two years ago, same time, you know, we expect our originations to be a lot more diversified, to your point. So, you know, it's not that the mobile home park and RV park activity is dead. In fact, it's not. It still represents a big piece of our pipeline. It's just that, you know, we brought on some folks that really will add to the diversification of our originations, which it was. Which is all by design. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:26:06That's great. And then you. You just touched on the Bay Area. I was hoping to get a sense kind of on the pulse there. You've been extremely active, making some market share gains, continuing to hire, already brought on a new person in 2025. Could you just talk about the pulse of that market, what you're seeing there, your ability to continue to gain share and just kind of the plans you have for continued expansion there? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:26:33Sure. First of all, it's a great market and there's still an aspect of, I'm going to say, turmoil and certainly repairing, given what happened at Silicon Valley Bank and First Republic Bank and some of the mergers that have happened and what happened even Signature Bank. So we're still very excited about that. We're providing a great platform for experienced bankers to come join us. And so our next expansion efforts will, you know, from a physical perspective will probably be in the East Bay, most likely in Walnut Creek as we continue to grow. And we're always looking to add talented folks. And I think what's important to note is that success breeds success and word of mouth because bankers do like to talk. And we've created something down there that really has its own momentum right now in terms of business attraction and also talent attraction. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:27:41So that's kind of where we're heading from a geographic perspective, David, down there. But we're interested in the entire Bay Area. The Bay Area is a diverse place. And, you know, you've got the North Bay, you've got San Francisco proper, you've got the Peninsula, you got the South Bay, you've got Silicon Valley, you got East Bay, Oakland, Alameda, you got Walnut Creek, Concord. All these places are different. They're all their own economic nodes. And in order to play in that space and do it effectively, you've got to get people who are very experienced and know their markets and know the customers and know the industries that are there. So that's what we're trying to accomplish down there. And it's exciting. And it's not. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:28:28We're not doing this to diminish what we're doing certainly up in the Capital Region, all the way up into the North State. In fact, we've added a couple people up in Chico that we're excited about. So we continue to grow and develop and we're always looking for talent, David. We never stop doing that. David FeasterAnalyst at Raymond James00:28:47That's great. That's great. Good point. Thank you. Operator00:28:54Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and one. Our next question comes from Andrew Terrell from Stephens. Please go ahead with your question. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:29:04Hey, good morning, James. Morning, Heather. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:29:06Hey, good morning, Andrew. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:29:08Just a few questions here. Anything, James, that seasonally impacted the non-wholesale deposits? We saw this quarter up a little bit less than maybe I was expecting. Just wondering if there was any kind of seasonal impact that we should be aware of for the fourth quarter. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:29:25In terms of deposit flows. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:29:27Yeah, deposit flows, non-wholesale. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:29:31Yeah, I think that we saw some geez in the last week. It probably would have a dramatically different result. I think we saw a lot of distributions being made by our commercial customers coming out in the last two weeks of December and the flows were really quite significant. Well over $50 million. And I think that's normal. People are paying out bonuses. A lot of people like to get that done prior to the end of the year for staff. Maybe some of the executives are a little bit later. But that's something that we really picked up on. Notice it wasn't no relationships went away. It's rather just people distributed their cash and so that's what we saw. It was very noticeable. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:30:23Got it. Okay. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. And then when I think about, you know, the parameters you're putting around kind of loan and deposit growth next year, I think you said both expected around that 8%. Just within those two figures, would you assume any runoff of the wholesale deposits, essentially implying that the kind of non wholesale deposit could be better than 8%. And then within loan growth, should we expect any BHG purchases throughout 2025 and were there any in this quarter? James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:30:58So there were some in this quarter. And so big picture, what we're trying to maintain is about a $300 million book with BHG, which means we have to be active every quarter to kind of fill up what gets paid off. It's very rapid amortization. So we plan to keep the BHG balances around $300 million. We also plan to keep our wholesale book pretty consistent throughout the whole year. So the strategy there is just to roll, keep rolling those CDs. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:31:29Just to put some context around that, you know, James noted, we're going to stay within that $300 million concentration. For comparison purposes, in Q4 we only purchased $17 million of BHG loans for a total as of year-end at $270 million. That's compared to $109 million purchased in Q3. You can kind of see the level of activity now that we're almost to that level of kind of typical activity that we'll do. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:32:00No diminishment of our wholesale deposit book. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:32:04Got it. Okay. I appreciate it, and then maybe just one more just going back on I think it was Will's point around the efficiency. If I look at the expense growth, past year was, I think, 14% versus 2023 levels. Heather, how should we be thinking about just overall level of expense growth in 2025? Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:32:22Yeah, as James mentioned earlier, you know, we have been investing in not only the Bay Area, but also Sacramento and the Valley and in the North State and also in back office support too to help support all of the new activity and new customers coming in. So I would expect to have for the first half of the year to use Q4's expenses as your proxy. I think that that's a good new baseline for where we expect to be for the first half of this year. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:32:53Got it. Okay. So pretty similar 4Q into the first half and then maybe we'll reassess them depending on kind of hiring and future investments. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:03Correct. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:03Correct. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:06I'm glad you brought that question up because we were just talking about that in terms of, you know, we were opportunistic. Andrew. If a team becomes available, we're going to jump on it. And so, you know, these folks aren't cheap, as you know. Andrew TerrellAnalyst at Stephens00:33:24Yep. Well, you guys have done a great job in remaining opportunistic. So I appreciate it. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:30Thank you. Heather LuckEVP and CFO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:31Thank you. Operator00:33:35Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we're going to conclude today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for closing remarks. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:33:44Great. Thank you. Five Star Bancorp is on a continued path of growth as we execute on strategic initiatives which include growing our verticals and geographies while attracting and retaining talent. Our people, technology, operating efficiencies, conservative underwriting practices and expense management have also contributed to the successes we share with our employees and shareholders. These successes include numerous ratings and awards. Five Star Bank consistently execute on client and community focused initiatives and 2024 was no exception. We received a Super Premier rating from Findley Reports, an IDC Superior rating and a BauerFinancial rating of five stars. We were also awarded the prestigious 2023 Raymond James Community Bankers Cup. We were among S&P Global Market Intelligence 2023 Top 20 Best-Performing Community Banks in the nation, and we are ranked fifth in the 2024 Bank Director magazine Best U.S. Banks with assets less than five billion. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:34:58We also received the Greater Sacramento Economic Council's Sustainability Award recognizing a company that has supported industry growth in the Greater Sacramento region. In 2024, our senior leadership was recognized by the Sacramento Business Journal with the C-Suite Award, a Woman Who Means Business honor, a Forty Under 40 recognition, and placement on the Power 100 list. Our senior leadership was also recognized in the San Francisco Business Times Newsmaker 100 list as part of the Independent Community Bankers 40 Under 40 emerging community bankers, among the Association of Latino Professionals for America's top 50 Most Powerful Latinas, and with the National Association of Women Business Owners Sacramento Valley Outstanding Women Leaders Executive Woman Award. Being recognized as community leaders ensures Five Star Bank remains top of mind in the markets we serve as we continue to build out our market presence. James BeckwithPresident and CEO at Five Star Bancorp00:36:10I am humbled and proud of our team's accomplishment and look forward to the future. We look forward to speaking with you again in April. Discuss earnings for the first quarter of 2025. Have a great day and thank you for listening. Operator00:36:26Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesHeather LuckEVP and CFOJames BeckwithPresident and CEOAnalystsWill JonesAssociate Vice President and Equity Research Analyst at KBWAndrew TerrellAnalyst at StephensDavid FeasterAnalyst at Raymond JamesPowered by