NYSE:CLF Cleveland-Cliffs Q3 2025 Earnings Results & Report $13.14 +0.28 (+2.14%) Closing price 11/11/2026 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$13.12 -0.01 (-0.08%) As of 08:16 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. Cleveland-Cliffs beat analyst earnings expectations but missed on revenue in its Q3 2025 results, released October 20, 2025. The company reported EPS of -$0.45 versus the -$0.48 consensus estimate, while revenue of $4.73 billion fell short of the $4.90 billion estimate by $161.70 million. Revenue increased 3.6% year over year. Research:ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Earnings Announcement Details QuarterQ3 2025Report DateOctober 20, 2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call8:30 AM ET Cleveland-Cliffs EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.45Consensus EPS -$0.48Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPS-$0.33EPS Beat Rate6 of last 8 quartersCleveland-Cliffs Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$4.73 billionExpected Revenue$4.90 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$161.70 millionYoY Revenue Growth+3.60%Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Cleveland-Cliffs Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 20, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Cleveland-Cliffs reported a clear rebound in automotive demand, signing multi-year agreements with all major OEMs through 2027–2028 and achieving its best auto-steel shipment quarter since Q1 2024, with existing capacity positioned to support 2026 production ramps. Positive Sentiment: Financial and cost initiatives materially improved results — adjusted EBITDA rose to $143 million (+52% q/q), average selling price was $1,032/nt, the company says its $300 million annual footprint savings are on track, CapEx guidance was cut to $525 million, and 2027 bonds were refinanced to extend the maturity runway. Neutral Sentiment: Management entered a memorandum of understanding with a major global steelmaker and is prioritizing that partnership (formal announcement expected in coming months), which has temporarily deprioritized a broader asset-sale process run by JPMorgan. Negative Sentiment: The Canadian business (Stelco) continues to underperform due to ~65% imported steel penetration in Canada and perceived government inaction on trade remedies, weighing on results despite representing about 9% of total sales. Positive Sentiment: Strategic wins and diversification include a $400 million, five-year Defense Logistics Agency contract for grain‑oriented electrical steel, preserved DOE grant projects (Butler; Middletown scoping), and early-stage rare-earth exploration at two domestic sites to support critical‑materials independence. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCleveland-Cliffs Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Donna, and I am your conference facilitator today. I would like to welcome everyone to Cleveland-Cliffs' third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. The company reminds you that certain comments made on today's call will include predictive statements that are intended to be made as forward-looking within the safe harbor protections of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although the company believes that its forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Operator00:00:44Important factors that could cause results to differ materially are set forth in the reports on Forms 10-K and 10-Q and news releases filed with the SEC, which are available on the company website. Today's conference call is also available and being broadcast at clevelandcliffs.com. At the conclusion of the call, it will be archived on the website and available for replay. The company will also discuss results excluding certain special items. Reconciliation for Regulation G purposes can be found on the earnings release, which was published this morning. At this time, I would like to introduce Lourenco Goncalves, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:01:29Thank you, Donna, and good morning, everyone. Our third quarter results were a clear indication that a significant rebound in domestic steel demand has started, and the automotive sector is leading the way. It's now widely accepted and understood that tariffs are here to stay, particularly the Section 232 tariffs on steel, autos, and derivative products. These tariffs are not a negotiating tool, and the only effective way to avoid tariffs is manufacturing in the United States. With all that, the third quarter was our best auto steel shipment quarter since the first quarter of 2024. That's a very encouraging sign for what's coming in 2026 and beyond. Over the past quarter, Cleveland-Cliffs was able to lock in two or three-year agreements with all major automotive OEMs covering higher sales volumes and favorable pricing through 2027 or 2028. These are not small renewals. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:02:54These agreements represent strategic commitments to domestic steel sourcing by the most relevant auto OEMs. Many of these customers have told us directly that they want to reduce their exposure to tariffs and to foreign volatility. They want stability and resilient supply chains. With a total of nine automotive-grade galvanized steel plants, five of them designed to produce exposed parts in all specs and widths, Cliffs is the natural partner for the car manufacturers expanding production in the United States. President Trump's trade agenda has steel and automotive as part of its core. These two sectors are not just economically relevant, they are fundamental to national security. Rebuilding these strengths is essential to sustain America's industrial independence and to improve our national defense readiness. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:04:09The same industrial base that builds advanced vehicles and powertrains for civilian use, supported by domestic steel production, can also provide the engineering capability, supply chain depth, and logistics expertise required to support the American military. There is no question that the resurgence of the U.S. auto sector, supported by domestic steel, is a matter of great urgency. While other steel companies are still building or promising to build new capacity to be ready in 2028, 2029, or later, Cliffs is ready for 2026. Our state-of-the-art automotive-grade galvanized steel plants, Spartan and Dearborn in Michigan, Middletown, Cleveland, and Columbus in Ohio, and Rockport, Indiana Harbor, Burns Harbor, and New Carlisle in Indiana are all up and running. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:05:19Cliffs has plenty of capacity right now, and the multi-year contracts we have signed with our automotive clients should give us the demand we need to make all these plants work at full capacity and at full employment levels. This quarter also reminded the automotive OEMs why steel, and Cliffs Steel in particular, is irreplaceable. When lightweighting became a major trend several years ago, some automakers jumped on the aluminum bandwagon, chasing immaterial and expensive lightweighting gains while ignoring very meaningful technological advances in the production of high-strength steels and, more importantly, the enormous supply chain risks they were assuming. A huge fire at the nation's largest automotive aluminum-producing mill this past quarter revealed the fragility of that shift. Vehicle models that were years ago moved away from steel and toward aluminum are suffering the most. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:06:34The silver lining is that switching back to steel is now under serious consideration by the most affected OEMs. Recent trials of conforming parts with our steel using equipment originally designed for aluminum are showing very promising results. This is a huge win for American-made steel and a validation of everything we have been saying for years. Domestic steelmaking, and particularly Cliffs Steel, is the backbone of the American automotive supply chain. We fully expect that aluminum's participation in the automotive space will continue to shrink, with Cliffs being the biggest beneficiary of the trend. The resurgence of U.S. manufacturing, enabled and supported by the Trump administration, has made Cliffs very attractive to a number of major global steel producers. These steelmakers supply steel within their respective countries to important clients, and these clients are now moving production to the United States. Exporting steel into the U.S. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:07:55is no longer a viable option for these foreign steel companies. Like their steel-consuming customers, these folks need a physical presence in the United States. Cliffs is a fully integrated steel company, starting from mining iron ore and going all the way downstream to the production of high-end finished products, and that is all based in the United States. This foreign interest in Cliffs is fully aligned with President Trump's agenda of strengthening America's industrial base and attracting foreign investments. With all that, a few months ago, we were approached by a major global steelmaker who wants to leverage our footprint in the United States to enable a smooth onboarding for their downstream industrial clients, moving production from their country of origin to the United States. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:08:58During the third quarter, we entered into a memorandum of understanding with this global steelmaker, and we expect to make a formal announcement in the next few months. I will not take any questions on this subject today. Separately, we have made excellent progress selling profits that no longer fit into our production footprint. I am pleased to report that we are under contract or agreements in principle for eight of these sites, with a combined total value of $425 million. The proceeds of these sales will go directly toward debt reduction. As for our larger operational asset sales process run by JPMorgan, this is currently being deprioritized, given the comprehensiveness of our memorandum of understanding with the global steelmaker. We are not quite penciled down on this process, but advancing our negotiations under our memorandum of understanding is now our top priority. While our U.S. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:10:19business is on a clear path to recovery, we complete on November 1st our first year of ownership of the Canadian steel company Stelco. The picture in Canada remains disappointing. Roughly 9% of our total sales come from Stelco in Canada, and that market continues to lag our expectations. There is only one cause to the problem: the Canadian government has been completely unwilling to act against dumped steel into Canada. Imported steel penetration into the Canadian market stands at a ridiculous and absurd 65%. The Canadian government could easily resolve the problem by replicating what the United States has done under Section 232, impose meaningful tariffs, close loopholes, and enforce the implementation of these anti-dumping counter measures. With other regions of the globe moving in the right direction, even the European Union has recently tightened its quota and tariff regime. Canada stands alone in doing nothing. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:11:40A bailout loan, as the one given by the Canadian government and the province of Ontario to Algoma, one of our Canadian competitors, is not a fix for the problem. Trying to weaken Section 232 in the United States just to bring back Canadian steel into the American market is even worse. Stelco, under our ownership, does not want to and should not depend on selling steel into the United States for its survival. Stelco could thrive exclusively by selling steel in Canada. While I confess my inability to convince the several Canadian government officials I regularly speak with, I continue to expect Prime Minister Carney to make a move in the right direction. Let's see how long it takes, or if I will need to be more persuasive. Meanwhile, the U.S. government continues to grow as our partner. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:12:50During the quarter, we were awarded a five-year, $400 million fixed-price contract by the Defense Logistics Agency of the U.S. Department of War. This contract covers up to 53,000 net tons of grain-oriented electrical steel, which the U.S. government intends to store for national security purposes. The award underscores Cleveland-Cliffs' position as the only U.S. producer capable of supplying this critical material, grain-oriented electrical steel, further reinforcing the strategic importance of our electrical steels to the nation's defense and energy infrastructure. Also, we recently learned that our two projects receiving grants from the Department of Energy at Middletown, Ohio, and Butler, Pennsylvania, were not included on the cancellation list that ended more than 200 other projects. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:14:03As such, we will proceed with the Butler project on schedule, and we will also continue to work with the DOE on the new scoping of the Middletown project, which is critically important as that blast furnace will be reliant in the next four to five years. Last but not least, the growing strategic value of rare earth elements has prompted us to revisit this potential within our mining portfolio. We view this effort as both an opportunity and as our responsibility. Comprehensive reviews of our ore bodies and tailings basins have identified two sites, one in Minnesota and one in Michigan, where geological surveys show evidence of rare earth mineralization. We continue to assess our potential on both sites. Advancing this initiative would position Cleveland-Cliffs squarely within the nation's pursuit of critical material self-sufficiency. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:15:19We believe America's industrial foundation must never depend on China or any other foreign source for essential minerals. Cleveland-Cliffs is committed to contributing to our independence from foreign powers on critical materials. With that, I will turn to our CFO, Celso Goncalves, for his remarks. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:15:44Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Our third quarter results were driven by steady operational execution and much better-than-expected pricing, supported by automotive strength. Our adjusted EBITDA on the quarter improved to $143 million, a 52% increase over the prior quarter, driven by margin expansion from higher realized prices and improved mix. Our steel shipment volumes were 4 million tons in the quarter, a reduction from the prior quarter as a function of summer slowdowns and our continued discipline in the broader market. Fortunately, as a result, our mix shifted favorably toward automotive, which drove our average selling price to $1,032 per net ton, up $17 per net ton over the prior quarter. This improvement in price is entirely driven by automotive shipments moving from 26% to 30% share and coated volumes moving from 27% to 29% share. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:16:47On the cost side, we continue to deliver great results as our unit costs adjusted to the much richer automotive mix. Our continued cost performance was almost entirely driven by the footprint optimization activities we announced earlier this year and have fully implemented at this point. The third quarter was the first full quarter we operated with these operational efficiencies in place, and our projected annual savings of $300 million from these maneuvers remain on track. We also continue to take further action to reduce both SG&A run rate and capital expenditure budgets. Our CapEx budget for 2025 is now $525 million, down from our original expectation to begin the year of $700 million. This is reflective of dramatically reduced spend at Stelco, as well as the now changing DOE projects at Middletown. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:17:47In addition, full-year SG&A expectation is now down to $550 million from our original expectation to begin the year of $625 million. These savings are reflective of overhead and incentive pay cost cuts in response to weaker demand conditions. Another upcoming item to highlight is the December 9 expiration of our onerous slab contract. For the past five years, we've been bound by a contract that valued imported slabs using the now irrelevant Brazilian slab index. That index no longer reflects the real cost or value of American steel, much less the value of our automotive-grade slabs produced at Indiana Harbor. With the contract expiring, we will reclaim that production internally using our melted and poured slabs to serve growing automotive demand. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:18:41This past quarter, we also took advantage of the strong high-yield market and refinanced the entirety of our remaining bonds maturing in 2027, leaving us with a runway of more than three years with no upcoming bond maturities. Our next bond maturity is not until March of 2029, and those notes can be redeemed at par starting in March of next year. Together with the outstanding balance on the ABL, we have plenty of prepayable debt to pay down with the incoming proceeds of property asset sales and future free cash flow. Our gross debt amount remains elevated, but we will have ample opportunity to pay it down over the coming quarters. That said, the composition of our debt and maturity runway leaves us with plenty of flexibility going forward. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:19:29The primary end markets that we serve, transportation, manufacturing, and construction, have been experiencing recession-like conditions over the past 12 months. We have navigated this with our operational improvements, footprint optimizations, and reductions in overhead and capital costs. The construction and general manufacturing sectors still remain relatively weak, but if history is any guide, those sectors will follow the trajectory of the automotive sector, which is now tracing upward. We have finally started to see a bit of restocking activity in the distributor and end-user markets, an indication that the new tariff reality for those buyers is setting in. The signs of a real recovery are forming, and we need consistent demand and stable policy to keep it going. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:20:18Once these policy changes give us the demand boost that we need, the foundation that we have laid with these operational improvements will propel us further to amplified EBITDA and cash flow. With that, I'll now turn it back to Lourenco for his closing remarks. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:20:34Thanks, Celso. Q3 showed the first clear signs that the tide is beginning to turn. Automotive is rebounding, our cost actions are working, and trade policy is delivering measurable results. We are not declaring victory yet. We can and will do better. Our onerous slab contract will soon go away. Our automotive volumes will continue to increase, and we will finish what we have started. That includes the execution of the final agreement and the beginning of the work which will follow our transformational memorandum of understanding with our major global steelmaker partner. With that, I'll turn it back to Donna for questions. Operator00:21:27Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad at this time. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. Once again, that is star one to register a question at this time. Our first question today is coming from Nick Giles of B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Nick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:22:01Thank you very much, Operator. Lourenco, Celso, good morning, and really nice to see all of these updates. Cliffs has been a national champion in the U.S. metals and mining industry for over a century, so it's really good to see you taking the initiative on the rare earth side. My question is really, you know, how quickly could you produce products in this vertical, and you know, could you look to be a vertically integrated producer? Would you look for a partner? Thank you very much. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:22:29Thanks, Nick, for the question. Look, we have the opportunity to develop the mining, assuming that all these original studies will play out as we expect, and we'll go from there. It's very clear that the U.S. government is very quickly realizing the importance of having an industry for this type of minerals inside the borders of the United States. That's also, in my opinion, an opportunity for cooperation with Canada, another unexplored opportunity that we can develop with our northern neighbor. There are several ways to go with this thing, and the important thing is that the geographical location would be good for both. We can do it inside the United States. We can do it in Canada because we're very close, across the pond, across the Great Lakes. It's very easy to work within the United States or with Canada. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:23:35These are the two options I see going forward. Nick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:23:40Thanks for that detail. Maybe just as a follow-up, I mean, what resources have you brought in to date to explore the opportunity? You know, when is kind of the first mile marker in terms of a potential product mix or any economics? Should we be thinking about something early next year? Appreciate any color. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:24:01Look, we've identified two sites that have the most promising potential. We are working with the geologists to assess whether these deposits could become commercially viable. That's where we're at. Don't forget, as you said, we are a mining company, so this is not new territory for us. We understand mining into these lands more than anyone because we have been doing it for a long, long time. We will see how we'll go from there. That's a potential that we will not let go without putting a lot of effort and a lot of ingenuity into getting this done inside the U.S. or in partnership with Canada that has experience in mining. There are not so rare elements that are called rare earths. Nick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:25:04L.G., thanks again. Really appreciate the update this morning and continue best of luck. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:25:09Thanks, Nick. Operator00:25:12Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mike Harris of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Mr. Harris, please make sure your phone is not on mute. We'll move on to the next question. The next question is coming from Lawson Winder of Bank of America. Please go ahead. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:25:38Thank you very much, Operator. Good morning, Lourenco and Celso. Thank you for today's update. Could I ask just about your decision to deprioritize the asset sale process? How has that process gone to date? Has there been any interest, and if so, in what assets? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:25:57Look, like I said, the process, we did not stop by any stretch. Actually, we closed on a portion of the sale of FPT during the weekend. We have, during the close, a signed contract. I misspoke. It's not a closing yet, but it'll be a short closing. The portion that we sold on FPT is not even a site that we explore for our own EBITDA. It doesn't change at all the EBITDA that we generate from FPT. We're very pleased that we had more than one party interested in that specific portion of FPT, including the Florida assets. We are very excited with the opportunity to continue to sell the remaining portions of FPT as we go. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:26:56The other asset, Lawson, that we're considering selling would be our direct reduction plant in Toledo, Ohio, because, as you might conclude on your own, but I will reiterate here, we have no interest in building a flat-rolled mini-mill ourselves. I was keeping that HBI plant to supply Big River in case we had the opportunity to acquire U.S. Steel, which did not play out. As we did not acquire Big River through the acquisition of U.S. Steel, I don't see any specific strategic value of keeping a direct reduction plant producing HBI with the strict goal of supplying flat-rolled mini-mill producing more of a high-end type of flat-rolled products. That's not my problem anymore. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:27:58We still have a lot of interest in that specific plant, but this discussion with the MOU and the subsequent work that we're doing with our partner is showing that we might be doing other things with that plant, which I will not elaborate at this point. I'm kind of still considering alternatives, but I'm deprioritizing that because the MOU trumps, no pun intended, trumps the opportunity of selling itself as a standalone unit, the Toledo plant. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:28:39Okay, understood. That's very clear. If I could just follow up on your comment on FPT, should we be looking for some sort of announcement on that sale of a portion or partnership? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:28:50I just made it. We are under agreement to sell the Florida assets to SA Recycling, and that's the deal. It's out. I just said it to you. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:09Can you provide any detail on economics at this point, or is it too early? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:12No. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:14Okay. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:15It is good. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:16Thank you for that. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:16It's good. If you apply a multiple to a site that generates zero EBITDA, you can pick one. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:24Okay. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:25It doesn't change the economics of the rest. That's the importance of this sale. That's why I'm disclosing. That was an asset that, for me, was always completely irrelevant because I'm not going to put a mini-mill in Florida to produce rebar or anything else. That was not a site that I was interested in from the get-go. It came as an addendum to what I was really interested in having, the real FPT, the FPT around Detroit and around Prime Scrap. That's completely preserved. There are other companies, more than one actually, interested in acquiring the rest. They both have the same thing in common. They don't want Florida. We moved to Florida, but we're not going to reveal the number. The number is extremely good, and you'll see in our liquidity going forward. You have to wait because this is just a signed agreement. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:30:23It's not closing yet, so we can't disclose the number. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:30:26Yeah, understood. All right. Thanks very much for your responses. I appreciate it. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:30:31Thanks, Lawson. Operator00:30:34Thank you. The next question is coming from Phil Gibbs of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:30:40Hey, good morning. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs Inc.00:30:42Morning, Phil. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:30:44The question is on the auto contracts. Did any of the new contracts kick in during this quarter, or do any of the new contracts kick in during the fourth quarter? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:30:57Yeah, we have some kicking in October 1. I'm simplifying when I'm saying 2026 because, you know, it's a short quarter. The fourth quarter, particularly in automotive, is not a quarter that we are excited about because, you know, we're going to have shutdowns through the end of the year. That's a normal course. Sometimes we have, I'm not sure about this year because they are really busy, but it's a normal course for them to shut down around Thanksgiving as well. We are going to see a lot of activity coming from these contracts as the year turns to 2026. We're super excited with everything that's happening with General Motors, Ford, Stellantis, with this big announcement of $13 billion bringing back the plants that we were by far the largest supplier. All these things are coming to us at this point. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:31:54We have Ford, we have Hyundai, we have Honda, we have Toyota in North America. These are all happening. The good thing, Phil, is that the car manufacturers finally realize that it's not a good thing to wait and wait and wait and see that the Trump administration is not changing their tune. I think Secretary Letnic was very clear when he said the United States will be first in producing automobiles. Canada can be second. That shows resolve. I like to see that, and that helps us in terms of getting our business moving in the right direction. We are good. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:32:44Just a follow-up on the cost side. What does the guidance imply for further unit cost reductions in the fourth quarter, and should we expect any more momentum in the first part of 2026? Thank you. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs Inc.00:33:00I'll let Celso handle this one, Phil. Please, Celso. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:33:04Yeah, sure. Hey, Phil. If you look at the cost performance in Q3, adjusted for the increased automotive mix, we still expect costs to be down $50 a ton year-over-year when adjusted for this mix. You can see in our track record achieving cost reductions dating back to 2023. We achieved an $80 a ton cost reduction in 2023. We were down another $30 a ton in 2024. In 2025, our unit costs are still expected to be down $50 a ton. We're not changing the guide there. Just as it relates to other Q4 kind of talking points and general guidance that I can give you, shipments should be similar as Q3, around 4 million tons. You have to consider seasonality with the holidays, offsetting improved demand. Auto shipments are expected to be similar. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:34:02In terms of pricing, you probably have all the pieces that you need to calculate as the ASP for Q4. Relative to Q3, Q4 costs should be relatively similar to Q3. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:34:20Thank you. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:34:21Thanks, Phil. Operator00:34:24Thank you. Our next question is coming from Carlos Alba of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Carlos AlbaSenior Equity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:34:30Yeah, good morning, Lourenco and Celso. Thanks for the update. Just on following up on the auto contracts, can you maybe give us some comments on the volume growth implicit in this new agreement and potentially an indication of how much pricing may be moving up or down or staying flat? Definitely a very important piece of the business going forward. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:34:59Look, directionally, these contracts will generate a lot more margin for us, including margin per ton. That's all I can share at this point with you. These are good contracts. We realized one thing, Carlos, that probably has been missed throughout this entire conversation. I'm trying to, in my prepared remarks, I'm trying and now using your question, so thanks for the question. I will try to explain a little bit about what Cleveland-Cliffs really is in terms of the automotive industry. We hear a lot about market share in automotive, gaining market share, losing market share. Let's understand one thing. Cleveland-Cliffs has so much more capacity to produce the steels that the automotive industry needs in comparison with any other supplier or any other wannabe supplier of automotive steel that it's not even a topic of conversation talking about market share, about these types of things. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:36:20We have five plants, full plants, that are ready to supply a lot more out-exposed parts than we are supplying right now, not because we lost market share, but because the car manufacturers who are producing cars in places like Mexico, Canada, South Korea, and I'm talking about American car companies, even in Japan, American car companies. That's the absurd of the entire thing. That's what's being corrected. As they are being compelled, in the lack of a better term, to produce cars in North America, in certain cases, like Stellantis, they are coming to senses and coming back to the reality that North America is their main market and Cliffs is their main supplier. We are seeing the business coming back and coming back extremely stronger. Just to give one set of numbers for you to think. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:37:28Columbus Coatings, it's one galvanizing line ready for extra-wide exposed parts that produces today something between 280,000 and 300,000 tons a year. The line itself is able, as is, to produce 450,000 tons just by putting what you put through the line. That is coming. The site itself is perfect to double in terms of the capacity in that specific site because we have room to put another line side by side with the existing one to double from 450,000 to 900,000 tons. That's on a single site. We don't need to invest to put the new line because we have idle capacity in Dearborn. The downstream Dearborn is the most modern galvanized steel plant in the world. It was built in 2013 by Severstal and acquired by AK Steel, and then we acquired AK Steel. Dearborn is ready for more. Middletown, same thing. Rockport needs to be visited. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:38:36It's all robotic. It's all automated. It has been like that for at least another one or one and a half decades. It's there. New Carlisle, that used to be called IN Tech, IN Quote, by Inland and Nippon Steel long ago, is pretty modern and pretty well equipped to produce not only hot dip galvanized and galvan mill, but also electro-galvanized as well as Middletown. We have so, and that's just exposed. If you go to non-exposed, high-end non-exposed, you have Cleveland. Cleveland Works is the most technologically advanced mill to produce high strength, low alloys for the structure of cars here in the United States. We have been doing that, but we have capacity for more. That's prevalent everywhere. Indiana Harbor, Burns Harbor, our joint venture with Washington Steel is Spartan. Same thing. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:39:38That's nine plants ready to grow as is or adding capacity as needed in the next three, four, five, six years. This movement that was initiated by President Trump that will percolate for the next five, maybe 10 years will be all supported by Cleveland-Cliffs. I'm explaining to you the capacity. I'm not going to go into these little details on how much more the contract or this and that. These things are coming now as a wave of new business that we are ready to take right now. Sorry for the long answer. It was a good question. I decided to use it to explain details that probably are not well understood, but I hope after I made that explanation, we'll at least generate more questions that will keep us helping clarify the subject. Carlos AlbaSenior Equity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:40:35Oh, great. Thanks for the additional information. Talking about the other opportunity that just came up for Cliffs on the rare earth space, are there any details or early details that you have in terms of the type of mineralization, rare earth mineralization that you may have? What type of minerals potentially you could be producing? Also, is there a timetable for a feasibility or pre-feasibility study or preliminary economic analysis assessment, sorry? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:41:08Look, I don't think that I want to talk about the yttrium, dysprosium, or terbium, or cerium, or lanthanum, or neodymium, or praseodymium in this call. You know, I am a chemistry person, so I would love to, but I don't think that would be a good thing for us today, Carlos. Let's take this offline and let's discuss. The important thing is that they are there. We found them there, and we want to make it viable. We really believe that we have potential there and that it will be good for Michigan, for the Upper Peninsula primarily. There is even one site in Minnesota that we would go. Minnesota is not very friendly to us, but you know, we still investigate there. We definitely will start in Michigan in the Upper Peninsula because we love the Upper Peninsula. Carlos AlbaSenior Equity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:42:07All right. Thank you, Lourenco. Looking forward to that conversation on more details when available. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:42:12Yes, sir. Thank you. Operator00:42:14Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mike Harris of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:42:21Okay, let's try this again. Hopefully, you can hear me this time. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:42:24Very well, Mike. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:42:26Hey, how are you guys doing? I just wanted to follow up on the grain-oriented electrical steel award that you highlighted. Just to kind of help us, how should we think about that? Is that more of a kind of a one-time opportunity, or is this like the first of a series of that? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:42:44It's a one-time opportunity, Mike, but it's a multi-year one-time opportunity. The U.S. government, the U.S. Department of Defense, made the decision to put in storage a safety reserve, a strategic inventory of this type of materials that we produce. We are going to build that inventory together with the U.S. Department of War, and we are very proud of this partnership. It's extremely good in terms of economic terms and in the long-term viability. Of course, we're going to prioritize that because it's national security. It will take years to finish. This probably is the first move into a direction that it's clear that the Trump administration is taking in terms of protecting the country with strategic inventories of things that could be under attack in a moment that's not very peaceful in the world. It's all good, and we are proud of our partnership with the U.S. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:43:59government and particularly with this specific deal. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:44:05Okay, that helps. Just a follow-up too, and I think, Celso, just a few minutes ago, someone asked a question around the cost reduction effort, and you kind of pointed out the track record. I guess I was just curious, are what we're witnessing here, is that just you guys now having the opportunity to take out maybe stranded costs from the acquisitions, or are we seeing the benefits from, I don't know, some process improvement or technological advances? Just kind of help me understand what we're witnessing with the cost reduction effort here. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:44:41Yeah, sure, Mike. Thanks for the question. I think, you know, over time, we've been proactive in terms of optimizing the footprint. You know, we became a steel company in 2020, if you remember. We acquired AK Steel. We closed that deal March 13th, 2020, in the middle of the pandemic. We doubled down and we acquired the ArcelorMittal USA assets in the same year, closed December 9th of that year. For the subsequent years thereafter, you know, we became a major steel company sort of overnight, and it took time to optimize the footprint. It came with a lot of assets. Many of them were very good. Some of them weren't so great. Over the last few years, we've been prioritizing optimizing the operations across all of our assets. That's what's really driven the accomplishment on the cost side. This year was really the completion of those efforts. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:45:38Okay, that helps out. Thanks a lot, guys, and good luck and continued success. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:45:45Okay, goodbye. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:45:45Thank you. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:45:45Appreciate it. Operator00:45:49Thank you. That brings us to the end of today's question and answer session. I'd like to thank everyone for their participation today. You may disconnect your lines and log off at this time. Enjoy the rest of your day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesLourenco GoncalvesChairman, President and CEOCelso GoncalvesCFOLourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEOAnalystsPhil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsLawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of AmericaNick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Donna, and I am your conference facilitator today. I would like to welcome everyone to Cleveland-Cliffs' third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. The company reminds you that certain comments made on today's call will include predictive statements that are intended to be made as forward-looking within the safe harbor protections of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although the company believes that its forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Operator00:00:44Important factors that could cause results to differ materially are set forth in the reports on Forms 10-K and 10-Q and news releases filed with the SEC, which are available on the company website. Today's conference call is also available and being broadcast at clevelandcliffs.com. At the conclusion of the call, it will be archived on the website and available for replay. The company will also discuss results excluding certain special items. Reconciliation for Regulation G purposes can be found on the earnings release, which was published this morning. At this time, I would like to introduce Lourenco Goncalves, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:01:29Thank you, Donna, and good morning, everyone. Our third quarter results were a clear indication that a significant rebound in domestic steel demand has started, and the automotive sector is leading the way. It's now widely accepted and understood that tariffs are here to stay, particularly the Section 232 tariffs on steel, autos, and derivative products. These tariffs are not a negotiating tool, and the only effective way to avoid tariffs is manufacturing in the United States. With all that, the third quarter was our best auto steel shipment quarter since the first quarter of 2024. That's a very encouraging sign for what's coming in 2026 and beyond. Over the past quarter, Cleveland-Cliffs was able to lock in two or three-year agreements with all major automotive OEMs covering higher sales volumes and favorable pricing through 2027 or 2028. These are not small renewals. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:02:54These agreements represent strategic commitments to domestic steel sourcing by the most relevant auto OEMs. Many of these customers have told us directly that they want to reduce their exposure to tariffs and to foreign volatility. They want stability and resilient supply chains. With a total of nine automotive-grade galvanized steel plants, five of them designed to produce exposed parts in all specs and widths, Cliffs is the natural partner for the car manufacturers expanding production in the United States. President Trump's trade agenda has steel and automotive as part of its core. These two sectors are not just economically relevant, they are fundamental to national security. Rebuilding these strengths is essential to sustain America's industrial independence and to improve our national defense readiness. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:04:09The same industrial base that builds advanced vehicles and powertrains for civilian use, supported by domestic steel production, can also provide the engineering capability, supply chain depth, and logistics expertise required to support the American military. There is no question that the resurgence of the U.S. auto sector, supported by domestic steel, is a matter of great urgency. While other steel companies are still building or promising to build new capacity to be ready in 2028, 2029, or later, Cliffs is ready for 2026. Our state-of-the-art automotive-grade galvanized steel plants, Spartan and Dearborn in Michigan, Middletown, Cleveland, and Columbus in Ohio, and Rockport, Indiana Harbor, Burns Harbor, and New Carlisle in Indiana are all up and running. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:05:19Cliffs has plenty of capacity right now, and the multi-year contracts we have signed with our automotive clients should give us the demand we need to make all these plants work at full capacity and at full employment levels. This quarter also reminded the automotive OEMs why steel, and Cliffs Steel in particular, is irreplaceable. When lightweighting became a major trend several years ago, some automakers jumped on the aluminum bandwagon, chasing immaterial and expensive lightweighting gains while ignoring very meaningful technological advances in the production of high-strength steels and, more importantly, the enormous supply chain risks they were assuming. A huge fire at the nation's largest automotive aluminum-producing mill this past quarter revealed the fragility of that shift. Vehicle models that were years ago moved away from steel and toward aluminum are suffering the most. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:06:34The silver lining is that switching back to steel is now under serious consideration by the most affected OEMs. Recent trials of conforming parts with our steel using equipment originally designed for aluminum are showing very promising results. This is a huge win for American-made steel and a validation of everything we have been saying for years. Domestic steelmaking, and particularly Cliffs Steel, is the backbone of the American automotive supply chain. We fully expect that aluminum's participation in the automotive space will continue to shrink, with Cliffs being the biggest beneficiary of the trend. The resurgence of U.S. manufacturing, enabled and supported by the Trump administration, has made Cliffs very attractive to a number of major global steel producers. These steelmakers supply steel within their respective countries to important clients, and these clients are now moving production to the United States. Exporting steel into the U.S. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:07:55is no longer a viable option for these foreign steel companies. Like their steel-consuming customers, these folks need a physical presence in the United States. Cliffs is a fully integrated steel company, starting from mining iron ore and going all the way downstream to the production of high-end finished products, and that is all based in the United States. This foreign interest in Cliffs is fully aligned with President Trump's agenda of strengthening America's industrial base and attracting foreign investments. With all that, a few months ago, we were approached by a major global steelmaker who wants to leverage our footprint in the United States to enable a smooth onboarding for their downstream industrial clients, moving production from their country of origin to the United States. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:08:58During the third quarter, we entered into a memorandum of understanding with this global steelmaker, and we expect to make a formal announcement in the next few months. I will not take any questions on this subject today. Separately, we have made excellent progress selling profits that no longer fit into our production footprint. I am pleased to report that we are under contract or agreements in principle for eight of these sites, with a combined total value of $425 million. The proceeds of these sales will go directly toward debt reduction. As for our larger operational asset sales process run by JPMorgan, this is currently being deprioritized, given the comprehensiveness of our memorandum of understanding with the global steelmaker. We are not quite penciled down on this process, but advancing our negotiations under our memorandum of understanding is now our top priority. While our U.S. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:10:19business is on a clear path to recovery, we complete on November 1st our first year of ownership of the Canadian steel company Stelco. The picture in Canada remains disappointing. Roughly 9% of our total sales come from Stelco in Canada, and that market continues to lag our expectations. There is only one cause to the problem: the Canadian government has been completely unwilling to act against dumped steel into Canada. Imported steel penetration into the Canadian market stands at a ridiculous and absurd 65%. The Canadian government could easily resolve the problem by replicating what the United States has done under Section 232, impose meaningful tariffs, close loopholes, and enforce the implementation of these anti-dumping counter measures. With other regions of the globe moving in the right direction, even the European Union has recently tightened its quota and tariff regime. Canada stands alone in doing nothing. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:11:40A bailout loan, as the one given by the Canadian government and the province of Ontario to Algoma, one of our Canadian competitors, is not a fix for the problem. Trying to weaken Section 232 in the United States just to bring back Canadian steel into the American market is even worse. Stelco, under our ownership, does not want to and should not depend on selling steel into the United States for its survival. Stelco could thrive exclusively by selling steel in Canada. While I confess my inability to convince the several Canadian government officials I regularly speak with, I continue to expect Prime Minister Carney to make a move in the right direction. Let's see how long it takes, or if I will need to be more persuasive. Meanwhile, the U.S. government continues to grow as our partner. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:12:50During the quarter, we were awarded a five-year, $400 million fixed-price contract by the Defense Logistics Agency of the U.S. Department of War. This contract covers up to 53,000 net tons of grain-oriented electrical steel, which the U.S. government intends to store for national security purposes. The award underscores Cleveland-Cliffs' position as the only U.S. producer capable of supplying this critical material, grain-oriented electrical steel, further reinforcing the strategic importance of our electrical steels to the nation's defense and energy infrastructure. Also, we recently learned that our two projects receiving grants from the Department of Energy at Middletown, Ohio, and Butler, Pennsylvania, were not included on the cancellation list that ended more than 200 other projects. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:14:03As such, we will proceed with the Butler project on schedule, and we will also continue to work with the DOE on the new scoping of the Middletown project, which is critically important as that blast furnace will be reliant in the next four to five years. Last but not least, the growing strategic value of rare earth elements has prompted us to revisit this potential within our mining portfolio. We view this effort as both an opportunity and as our responsibility. Comprehensive reviews of our ore bodies and tailings basins have identified two sites, one in Minnesota and one in Michigan, where geological surveys show evidence of rare earth mineralization. We continue to assess our potential on both sites. Advancing this initiative would position Cleveland-Cliffs squarely within the nation's pursuit of critical material self-sufficiency. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:15:19We believe America's industrial foundation must never depend on China or any other foreign source for essential minerals. Cleveland-Cliffs is committed to contributing to our independence from foreign powers on critical materials. With that, I will turn to our CFO, Celso Goncalves, for his remarks. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:15:44Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Our third quarter results were driven by steady operational execution and much better-than-expected pricing, supported by automotive strength. Our adjusted EBITDA on the quarter improved to $143 million, a 52% increase over the prior quarter, driven by margin expansion from higher realized prices and improved mix. Our steel shipment volumes were 4 million tons in the quarter, a reduction from the prior quarter as a function of summer slowdowns and our continued discipline in the broader market. Fortunately, as a result, our mix shifted favorably toward automotive, which drove our average selling price to $1,032 per net ton, up $17 per net ton over the prior quarter. This improvement in price is entirely driven by automotive shipments moving from 26% to 30% share and coated volumes moving from 27% to 29% share. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:16:47On the cost side, we continue to deliver great results as our unit costs adjusted to the much richer automotive mix. Our continued cost performance was almost entirely driven by the footprint optimization activities we announced earlier this year and have fully implemented at this point. The third quarter was the first full quarter we operated with these operational efficiencies in place, and our projected annual savings of $300 million from these maneuvers remain on track. We also continue to take further action to reduce both SG&A run rate and capital expenditure budgets. Our CapEx budget for 2025 is now $525 million, down from our original expectation to begin the year of $700 million. This is reflective of dramatically reduced spend at Stelco, as well as the now changing DOE projects at Middletown. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:17:47In addition, full-year SG&A expectation is now down to $550 million from our original expectation to begin the year of $625 million. These savings are reflective of overhead and incentive pay cost cuts in response to weaker demand conditions. Another upcoming item to highlight is the December 9 expiration of our onerous slab contract. For the past five years, we've been bound by a contract that valued imported slabs using the now irrelevant Brazilian slab index. That index no longer reflects the real cost or value of American steel, much less the value of our automotive-grade slabs produced at Indiana Harbor. With the contract expiring, we will reclaim that production internally using our melted and poured slabs to serve growing automotive demand. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:18:41This past quarter, we also took advantage of the strong high-yield market and refinanced the entirety of our remaining bonds maturing in 2027, leaving us with a runway of more than three years with no upcoming bond maturities. Our next bond maturity is not until March of 2029, and those notes can be redeemed at par starting in March of next year. Together with the outstanding balance on the ABL, we have plenty of prepayable debt to pay down with the incoming proceeds of property asset sales and future free cash flow. Our gross debt amount remains elevated, but we will have ample opportunity to pay it down over the coming quarters. That said, the composition of our debt and maturity runway leaves us with plenty of flexibility going forward. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:19:29The primary end markets that we serve, transportation, manufacturing, and construction, have been experiencing recession-like conditions over the past 12 months. We have navigated this with our operational improvements, footprint optimizations, and reductions in overhead and capital costs. The construction and general manufacturing sectors still remain relatively weak, but if history is any guide, those sectors will follow the trajectory of the automotive sector, which is now tracing upward. We have finally started to see a bit of restocking activity in the distributor and end-user markets, an indication that the new tariff reality for those buyers is setting in. The signs of a real recovery are forming, and we need consistent demand and stable policy to keep it going. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:20:18Once these policy changes give us the demand boost that we need, the foundation that we have laid with these operational improvements will propel us further to amplified EBITDA and cash flow. With that, I'll now turn it back to Lourenco for his closing remarks. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:20:34Thanks, Celso. Q3 showed the first clear signs that the tide is beginning to turn. Automotive is rebounding, our cost actions are working, and trade policy is delivering measurable results. We are not declaring victory yet. We can and will do better. Our onerous slab contract will soon go away. Our automotive volumes will continue to increase, and we will finish what we have started. That includes the execution of the final agreement and the beginning of the work which will follow our transformational memorandum of understanding with our major global steelmaker partner. With that, I'll turn it back to Donna for questions. Operator00:21:27Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad at this time. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. Once again, that is star one to register a question at this time. Our first question today is coming from Nick Giles of B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Nick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:22:01Thank you very much, Operator. Lourenco, Celso, good morning, and really nice to see all of these updates. Cliffs has been a national champion in the U.S. metals and mining industry for over a century, so it's really good to see you taking the initiative on the rare earth side. My question is really, you know, how quickly could you produce products in this vertical, and you know, could you look to be a vertically integrated producer? Would you look for a partner? Thank you very much. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:22:29Thanks, Nick, for the question. Look, we have the opportunity to develop the mining, assuming that all these original studies will play out as we expect, and we'll go from there. It's very clear that the U.S. government is very quickly realizing the importance of having an industry for this type of minerals inside the borders of the United States. That's also, in my opinion, an opportunity for cooperation with Canada, another unexplored opportunity that we can develop with our northern neighbor. There are several ways to go with this thing, and the important thing is that the geographical location would be good for both. We can do it inside the United States. We can do it in Canada because we're very close, across the pond, across the Great Lakes. It's very easy to work within the United States or with Canada. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:23:35These are the two options I see going forward. Nick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:23:40Thanks for that detail. Maybe just as a follow-up, I mean, what resources have you brought in to date to explore the opportunity? You know, when is kind of the first mile marker in terms of a potential product mix or any economics? Should we be thinking about something early next year? Appreciate any color. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:24:01Look, we've identified two sites that have the most promising potential. We are working with the geologists to assess whether these deposits could become commercially viable. That's where we're at. Don't forget, as you said, we are a mining company, so this is not new territory for us. We understand mining into these lands more than anyone because we have been doing it for a long, long time. We will see how we'll go from there. That's a potential that we will not let go without putting a lot of effort and a lot of ingenuity into getting this done inside the U.S. or in partnership with Canada that has experience in mining. There are not so rare elements that are called rare earths. Nick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:25:04L.G., thanks again. Really appreciate the update this morning and continue best of luck. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:25:09Thanks, Nick. Operator00:25:12Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mike Harris of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Mr. Harris, please make sure your phone is not on mute. We'll move on to the next question. The next question is coming from Lawson Winder of Bank of America. Please go ahead. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:25:38Thank you very much, Operator. Good morning, Lourenco and Celso. Thank you for today's update. Could I ask just about your decision to deprioritize the asset sale process? How has that process gone to date? Has there been any interest, and if so, in what assets? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:25:57Look, like I said, the process, we did not stop by any stretch. Actually, we closed on a portion of the sale of FPT during the weekend. We have, during the close, a signed contract. I misspoke. It's not a closing yet, but it'll be a short closing. The portion that we sold on FPT is not even a site that we explore for our own EBITDA. It doesn't change at all the EBITDA that we generate from FPT. We're very pleased that we had more than one party interested in that specific portion of FPT, including the Florida assets. We are very excited with the opportunity to continue to sell the remaining portions of FPT as we go. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:26:56The other asset, Lawson, that we're considering selling would be our direct reduction plant in Toledo, Ohio, because, as you might conclude on your own, but I will reiterate here, we have no interest in building a flat-rolled mini-mill ourselves. I was keeping that HBI plant to supply Big River in case we had the opportunity to acquire U.S. Steel, which did not play out. As we did not acquire Big River through the acquisition of U.S. Steel, I don't see any specific strategic value of keeping a direct reduction plant producing HBI with the strict goal of supplying flat-rolled mini-mill producing more of a high-end type of flat-rolled products. That's not my problem anymore. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:27:58We still have a lot of interest in that specific plant, but this discussion with the MOU and the subsequent work that we're doing with our partner is showing that we might be doing other things with that plant, which I will not elaborate at this point. I'm kind of still considering alternatives, but I'm deprioritizing that because the MOU trumps, no pun intended, trumps the opportunity of selling itself as a standalone unit, the Toledo plant. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:28:39Okay, understood. That's very clear. If I could just follow up on your comment on FPT, should we be looking for some sort of announcement on that sale of a portion or partnership? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:28:50I just made it. We are under agreement to sell the Florida assets to SA Recycling, and that's the deal. It's out. I just said it to you. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:09Can you provide any detail on economics at this point, or is it too early? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:12No. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:14Okay. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:15It is good. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:16Thank you for that. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:16It's good. If you apply a multiple to a site that generates zero EBITDA, you can pick one. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:29:24Okay. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:29:25It doesn't change the economics of the rest. That's the importance of this sale. That's why I'm disclosing. That was an asset that, for me, was always completely irrelevant because I'm not going to put a mini-mill in Florida to produce rebar or anything else. That was not a site that I was interested in from the get-go. It came as an addendum to what I was really interested in having, the real FPT, the FPT around Detroit and around Prime Scrap. That's completely preserved. There are other companies, more than one actually, interested in acquiring the rest. They both have the same thing in common. They don't want Florida. We moved to Florida, but we're not going to reveal the number. The number is extremely good, and you'll see in our liquidity going forward. You have to wait because this is just a signed agreement. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:30:23It's not closing yet, so we can't disclose the number. Lawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of America00:30:26Yeah, understood. All right. Thanks very much for your responses. I appreciate it. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:30:31Thanks, Lawson. Operator00:30:34Thank you. The next question is coming from Phil Gibbs of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:30:40Hey, good morning. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs Inc.00:30:42Morning, Phil. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:30:44The question is on the auto contracts. Did any of the new contracts kick in during this quarter, or do any of the new contracts kick in during the fourth quarter? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:30:57Yeah, we have some kicking in October 1. I'm simplifying when I'm saying 2026 because, you know, it's a short quarter. The fourth quarter, particularly in automotive, is not a quarter that we are excited about because, you know, we're going to have shutdowns through the end of the year. That's a normal course. Sometimes we have, I'm not sure about this year because they are really busy, but it's a normal course for them to shut down around Thanksgiving as well. We are going to see a lot of activity coming from these contracts as the year turns to 2026. We're super excited with everything that's happening with General Motors, Ford, Stellantis, with this big announcement of $13 billion bringing back the plants that we were by far the largest supplier. All these things are coming to us at this point. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:31:54We have Ford, we have Hyundai, we have Honda, we have Toyota in North America. These are all happening. The good thing, Phil, is that the car manufacturers finally realize that it's not a good thing to wait and wait and wait and see that the Trump administration is not changing their tune. I think Secretary Letnic was very clear when he said the United States will be first in producing automobiles. Canada can be second. That shows resolve. I like to see that, and that helps us in terms of getting our business moving in the right direction. We are good. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:32:44Just a follow-up on the cost side. What does the guidance imply for further unit cost reductions in the fourth quarter, and should we expect any more momentum in the first part of 2026? Thank you. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs Inc.00:33:00I'll let Celso handle this one, Phil. Please, Celso. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:33:04Yeah, sure. Hey, Phil. If you look at the cost performance in Q3, adjusted for the increased automotive mix, we still expect costs to be down $50 a ton year-over-year when adjusted for this mix. You can see in our track record achieving cost reductions dating back to 2023. We achieved an $80 a ton cost reduction in 2023. We were down another $30 a ton in 2024. In 2025, our unit costs are still expected to be down $50 a ton. We're not changing the guide there. Just as it relates to other Q4 kind of talking points and general guidance that I can give you, shipments should be similar as Q3, around 4 million tons. You have to consider seasonality with the holidays, offsetting improved demand. Auto shipments are expected to be similar. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:34:02In terms of pricing, you probably have all the pieces that you need to calculate as the ASP for Q4. Relative to Q3, Q4 costs should be relatively similar to Q3. Phil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:34:20Thank you. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:34:21Thanks, Phil. Operator00:34:24Thank you. Our next question is coming from Carlos Alba of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Carlos AlbaSenior Equity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:34:30Yeah, good morning, Lourenco and Celso. Thanks for the update. Just on following up on the auto contracts, can you maybe give us some comments on the volume growth implicit in this new agreement and potentially an indication of how much pricing may be moving up or down or staying flat? Definitely a very important piece of the business going forward. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:34:59Look, directionally, these contracts will generate a lot more margin for us, including margin per ton. That's all I can share at this point with you. These are good contracts. We realized one thing, Carlos, that probably has been missed throughout this entire conversation. I'm trying to, in my prepared remarks, I'm trying and now using your question, so thanks for the question. I will try to explain a little bit about what Cleveland-Cliffs really is in terms of the automotive industry. We hear a lot about market share in automotive, gaining market share, losing market share. Let's understand one thing. Cleveland-Cliffs has so much more capacity to produce the steels that the automotive industry needs in comparison with any other supplier or any other wannabe supplier of automotive steel that it's not even a topic of conversation talking about market share, about these types of things. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:36:20We have five plants, full plants, that are ready to supply a lot more out-exposed parts than we are supplying right now, not because we lost market share, but because the car manufacturers who are producing cars in places like Mexico, Canada, South Korea, and I'm talking about American car companies, even in Japan, American car companies. That's the absurd of the entire thing. That's what's being corrected. As they are being compelled, in the lack of a better term, to produce cars in North America, in certain cases, like Stellantis, they are coming to senses and coming back to the reality that North America is their main market and Cliffs is their main supplier. We are seeing the business coming back and coming back extremely stronger. Just to give one set of numbers for you to think. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:37:28Columbus Coatings, it's one galvanizing line ready for extra-wide exposed parts that produces today something between 280,000 and 300,000 tons a year. The line itself is able, as is, to produce 450,000 tons just by putting what you put through the line. That is coming. The site itself is perfect to double in terms of the capacity in that specific site because we have room to put another line side by side with the existing one to double from 450,000 to 900,000 tons. That's on a single site. We don't need to invest to put the new line because we have idle capacity in Dearborn. The downstream Dearborn is the most modern galvanized steel plant in the world. It was built in 2013 by Severstal and acquired by AK Steel, and then we acquired AK Steel. Dearborn is ready for more. Middletown, same thing. Rockport needs to be visited. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:38:36It's all robotic. It's all automated. It has been like that for at least another one or one and a half decades. It's there. New Carlisle, that used to be called IN Tech, IN Quote, by Inland and Nippon Steel long ago, is pretty modern and pretty well equipped to produce not only hot dip galvanized and galvan mill, but also electro-galvanized as well as Middletown. We have so, and that's just exposed. If you go to non-exposed, high-end non-exposed, you have Cleveland. Cleveland Works is the most technologically advanced mill to produce high strength, low alloys for the structure of cars here in the United States. We have been doing that, but we have capacity for more. That's prevalent everywhere. Indiana Harbor, Burns Harbor, our joint venture with Washington Steel is Spartan. Same thing. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:39:38That's nine plants ready to grow as is or adding capacity as needed in the next three, four, five, six years. This movement that was initiated by President Trump that will percolate for the next five, maybe 10 years will be all supported by Cleveland-Cliffs. I'm explaining to you the capacity. I'm not going to go into these little details on how much more the contract or this and that. These things are coming now as a wave of new business that we are ready to take right now. Sorry for the long answer. It was a good question. I decided to use it to explain details that probably are not well understood, but I hope after I made that explanation, we'll at least generate more questions that will keep us helping clarify the subject. Carlos AlbaSenior Equity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:40:35Oh, great. Thanks for the additional information. Talking about the other opportunity that just came up for Cliffs on the rare earth space, are there any details or early details that you have in terms of the type of mineralization, rare earth mineralization that you may have? What type of minerals potentially you could be producing? Also, is there a timetable for a feasibility or pre-feasibility study or preliminary economic analysis assessment, sorry? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:41:08Look, I don't think that I want to talk about the yttrium, dysprosium, or terbium, or cerium, or lanthanum, or neodymium, or praseodymium in this call. You know, I am a chemistry person, so I would love to, but I don't think that would be a good thing for us today, Carlos. Let's take this offline and let's discuss. The important thing is that they are there. We found them there, and we want to make it viable. We really believe that we have potential there and that it will be good for Michigan, for the Upper Peninsula primarily. There is even one site in Minnesota that we would go. Minnesota is not very friendly to us, but you know, we still investigate there. We definitely will start in Michigan in the Upper Peninsula because we love the Upper Peninsula. Carlos AlbaSenior Equity Research Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:42:07All right. Thank you, Lourenco. Looking forward to that conversation on more details when available. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:42:12Yes, sir. Thank you. Operator00:42:14Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mike Harris of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:42:21Okay, let's try this again. Hopefully, you can hear me this time. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:42:24Very well, Mike. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:42:26Hey, how are you guys doing? I just wanted to follow up on the grain-oriented electrical steel award that you highlighted. Just to kind of help us, how should we think about that? Is that more of a kind of a one-time opportunity, or is this like the first of a series of that? Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:42:44It's a one-time opportunity, Mike, but it's a multi-year one-time opportunity. The U.S. government, the U.S. Department of Defense, made the decision to put in storage a safety reserve, a strategic inventory of this type of materials that we produce. We are going to build that inventory together with the U.S. Department of War, and we are very proud of this partnership. It's extremely good in terms of economic terms and in the long-term viability. Of course, we're going to prioritize that because it's national security. It will take years to finish. This probably is the first move into a direction that it's clear that the Trump administration is taking in terms of protecting the country with strategic inventories of things that could be under attack in a moment that's not very peaceful in the world. It's all good, and we are proud of our partnership with the U.S. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:43:59government and particularly with this specific deal. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:44:05Okay, that helps. Just a follow-up too, and I think, Celso, just a few minutes ago, someone asked a question around the cost reduction effort, and you kind of pointed out the track record. I guess I was just curious, are what we're witnessing here, is that just you guys now having the opportunity to take out maybe stranded costs from the acquisitions, or are we seeing the benefits from, I don't know, some process improvement or technological advances? Just kind of help me understand what we're witnessing with the cost reduction effort here. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:44:41Yeah, sure, Mike. Thanks for the question. I think, you know, over time, we've been proactive in terms of optimizing the footprint. You know, we became a steel company in 2020, if you remember. We acquired AK Steel. We closed that deal March 13th, 2020, in the middle of the pandemic. We doubled down and we acquired the ArcelorMittal USA assets in the same year, closed December 9th of that year. For the subsequent years thereafter, you know, we became a major steel company sort of overnight, and it took time to optimize the footprint. It came with a lot of assets. Many of them were very good. Some of them weren't so great. Over the last few years, we've been prioritizing optimizing the operations across all of our assets. That's what's really driven the accomplishment on the cost side. This year was really the completion of those efforts. Mike HarrisEquity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:45:38Okay, that helps out. Thanks a lot, guys, and good luck and continued success. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:45:45Okay, goodbye. Celso GoncalvesCFO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:45:45Thank you. Lourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEO at Cleveland-Cliffs00:45:45Appreciate it. Operator00:45:49Thank you. That brings us to the end of today's question and answer session. I'd like to thank everyone for their participation today. You may disconnect your lines and log off at this time. Enjoy the rest of your day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesLourenco GoncalvesChairman, President and CEOCelso GoncalvesCFOLourenco GoncalvesChairman, President, and CEOAnalystsPhil GibbsManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsLawson WinderEquity Research Analyst at Bank of AmericaNick GilesSenior Research Analyst at B. 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