NASDAQ:AMSF AMERISAFE Q3 2025 Earnings Report $24.62 -0.05 (-0.20%) Closing price 09/18/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$24.64 +0.02 (+0.06%) As of 09/18/2026 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast AMERISAFE EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.55Consensus EPS $0.55Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/AAMERISAFE Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$71.29 millionExpected Revenue$78.29 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$6.99 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAMERISAFE Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date10/29/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, October 30, 2025Conference Call Time10:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsAMERISAFE's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, October 28, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, October 29, 2026 at 10:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by AMERISAFE Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 30, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: AMERISAFE reported strong profitability with a 20.5% return on average equity and a 90.6% combined ratio for Q3 2025, and GAAP net income of $13.8M ($0.72/share) versus $14.3M last year. Positive Sentiment: Top-line momentum continued — sixth consecutive quarter of growth with gross written premiums +7.2% YoY, voluntary premiums +10.6%, net earned premiums +6.2%, ~11% policy count growth year-over-year and 93.6% renewal retention. Neutral Sentiment: Loss trends are mixed — accident year loss ratio held at 71% with historically low frequency but rising severity, and the company recorded $8.9M of favorable prior-year reserve development (primarily 2020 and prior). Positive Sentiment: Capital returns and balance-sheet strength — board declared a regular $0.39 quarterly dividend plus a $1.00 special dividend, repurchased ~31,000 shares for $1.3M in Q3, and statutory surplus rose to $259M; book value/share rose to $14.47 YTD (+7.1%). Negative Sentiment: Investment income pressures — net investment income fell 12.3% to $6.6M due to lower average investable assets after prior special dividends, and cash yields moderated (money market ~4.0% vs 4.8% year-ago). AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallAMERISAFE Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day and welcome to the AMERISAFE third quarter 2025 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Kathryn Shirley. Please go ahead. Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:00:12Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the AMERISAFE 2025 third quarter investor call. If you have not received the earnings release, it is available on our website at amerisafe.com. This call is being recorded. A replay of today's call will be available. Details on how to access the replay are in the earnings release. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements intended to fall within the safe harbor provided under the securities laws. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:00:50Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements if the underlying assumptions prove to be incorrect or as the result of risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including factors discussed in the earnings release, in the comments made during today's call, and in the risk factors section of our Form 10-K, Form 10-Qs, and other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. I will now turn the call over to Janelle Frost, AMERISAFE's President and CEO. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:01:26Thank you, Kathryn, and good morning. We are pleased that our growth strategy in this competitive market is yielding a healthy 20.5% return on average equity and a 90.6% combined ratio for the quarter. Our continued success in the market reflects the strength of the AMERISAFE value proposition. At our core, we are a profitable underwriter focused on knowing our risks, pricing them appropriately, and servicing our policyholders and their workers. In doing so, we are a better carrier for our agents and create long term value for our shareholders. This is our sixth consecutive quarter of top line growth. Voluntary premiums on policies written in the quarter grew 10.6% combined with audit premiums. Our gross premiums written grew 7.2%, and net earned grew 6.2% over the third quarter of 2024. We are seeing the compound benefits of disciplined underwriting, robust new business production, and strong renewal performance. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:02:30Turning to losses, our accident year loss ratio was in line with the prior year end quarter at 71%. Frequency remains at historically low levels, while severity continues to notch higher on a year-over-year basis. We are confident that our claims handling practices, coupled with upfront risk selection, remain consistent and disciplined in the current environment. Thus, the company experienced $8.9 million of favorable reserve development on prior accident years, primarily accident years 2020 and prior. In addition to announcing the quarterly results, we also announced the Board of Directors declared both a regular quarterly dividend of $0.39 per share and a $1 special dividend payable on December 12, 2025, to shareholders as of December 5, 2025. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:03:22The Board takes a comprehensive approach when evaluating capital deployment, considering both the regular quarterly dividend, share repurchases, and any special dividend within the broader framework of AMERISAFE's capital position, operating performance, and future growth opportunities. This balanced strategy ensures that we continue to reward shareholders while maintaining the flexibility to invest in the business and support long term value creation. Our capital management philosophy remains consistent: profitability drives capital, and capital is deployed with discipline. We are proud of our track record. Over the past 13 years, AMERISAFE has declared nearly $50 per share in total dividends, including $12.68 in regular dividends and $37.25 in special dividends per share. Along with managing capital, the continued investment we are making in our people and technology is reflected in our solid top line growth at industry leading returns, delivering long term value to our shareholders. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:04:32With that, I'll turn the call over to Andy to discuss the financials. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:04:35Thank you Janelle and good morning to everyone. For the third quarter of 2025, AMERISAFE reported net income of $13.8 million or $0.72 per diluted share and operating net income of $10.6 million or $0.55 per diluted share. During the third quarter of 2024, net income was $14.3 million or $0.75 per diluted share and operating net income was $11.1 million or $0.58 per diluted share. Gross written premiums were $80.3 million in the quarter compared with $74.9 million in Q3 of 2024, increasing 7.2%. Audit premiums increased the top line by $2.5 million compared with $4 million in the prior year quarter. Despite the audit premium headwinds, voluntary premium grew. Growth of 10.6% fueled by new business production and strong retention is driving top line growth. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:05:32Our total underwriting and other expenses were $22.1 million in the quarter compared with $21.3 million in the prior year quarter, which resulted in an expense ratio of 31.1% compared with 31.7% in the prior year quarter. The expense ratio reflects ongoing investment in AMERISAFE's growth as we see elevated opportunity in our target markets. Our effective tax rate was 21% compared to 19.5% in the prior year quarter. Turning to our investment portfolio, in the third quarter, net investment income decreased 12.3% to $6.6 million, driven by a decrease in average investable assets following the payment of the special dividend in the fourth quarter of 2024. At quarter end, we held approximately $817 million in investments, cash and cash equivalents compared to $899 million at September 30, 2024. The reinvestment rate environment remained fairly strong with some moderation. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:06:33Compared to the second quarter of 2025, yields on new investments exceeded portfolio roll off by 77 basis points, driving the portfolio tax equivalent book yield to 3.9%, relatively flat versus the third quarter of 2024. The yield on cash held in money market funds ended the quarter at 4% compared to 4.8% at the end of the prior year quarter. The unrealized gain for the equity securities was $4.1 million compared to $3.9 million in the prior year quarter. Both periods were driven by strength in the U.S. equity market. Our investment portfolio remains high quality, carrying an average AA minus credit rating with a duration of 4.3 years. The composition of the portfolio is 61% in municipal bonds, 21% in corporate bonds, 3% in U.S. treasuries and agencies, 7% in equity securities and 8% in cash and other investments. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:07:31Approximately 45% of the portfolio is classified as held to maturity, which maintains a net unrealized loss position of $7.6 million. As a reminder, these securities are carried at amortized cost and therefore unrealized gains and losses are not reflected in our reported book value. Our capital position is strong with a high quality balance sheet, solid loss reserve position, and conservative investment portfolio. During the third quarter, the company repurchased roughly 31,000 shares at an average cost of $43.72 per share, totaling $1.3 million. Finally, a couple of other topics. Book value per share increased to $14.47, up 7.1% year-to-date. Statutory surplus was $259 million compared to $235.1 million at year end 2024. Lastly, we will be filing our Form 10-Q with the SEC later today, October 30, 2025, after the close of the market. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:08:31With that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for the question-and-answer portion. Operator. Operator00:08:38Thank you. If you are dialed in via the telephone and would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone key. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. Our first question is going to come from Matt Carletti. Please go ahead. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:09:05Hey, thanks. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:09:06Good morning. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:09:07Good morning, Matt. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:09:09Janelle, I was hoping maybe to start off. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:09:12Obviously, voluntary premium growth has been kind of solid double digits for a couple quarters now, which is a great kind of emerging trend. Could you talk a little bit about where you're seeing success, where that growth is coming from, if it's any particular areas, or maybe it's just more broad based and it's pretty evenly across all aspects of your business. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:09:36Thank you for noticing. I'm also pleased to say it's more broad based. We have grown policy count; in the quarter over second quarter, we grew policy count roughly 2.7% on a year-to-year basis. It's more like 11% year-over-year for policy count. We're growing policy count, which is very important. Our insured payrolls are expanding as well, which is also a positive. Particularly in this market, when you read all of the headlines about things that are happening in unemployment and wage growth expectations, our skilled labor jobs in our high hazard industries are faring pretty well. That helps support premiums. In terms of payroll growth, we're seeing still very strong retention on a renewal basis. For the quarter, our renewal retention for the policies for which we offered renewal was 93.6%, a very healthy number. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:10:31I think actually that was the same number we had prior year quarter. Even in this crazy competitive market that we're in, we're able to maintain those accounts that we want to maintain through a lot of collaborative effort from the AMERISAFE employees. I can't emphasize that enough. We have a seasoned sales staff. The way we utilize our safety services as part of the risk selection process is truly a value add, not only for our underwriters and helping our underwriters understand the risk and price the risk appropriately, but also a value add for our policyholders and their agents. The fact that that is an AMERISAFE contact that they have and that builds relationships with those policyholders and with those agents is critical to what we do and it's unique to AMERISAFE. I think that's huge on our part. I certainly can't not mention our claim family experience. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:11:35From a renewal retention standpoint, I truly believe the way we handle claims benefits us from a renewals perspective. If you've had a claim and it's handled by an AMERISAFE employee, we handle it the right way and we treat those injured workers well and that's meaningful to a policyholder. All of those things together I think is really adding to the growth effort in terms of just the amount of collaboration that we're having. We've really been focused on ease of doing business, speed to market, and it's just compounding and bearing fruit now in those growth numbers. I'll caveat that by saying all without—we're not adding, we haven't added class codes, we haven't expanded geographically. It's really market penetration and better serving, better working with our agents. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:12:28Great, thank you. If I kind of try to tie it one step further, as I look at your business, financially, earnings returns have been strong for many years now and really unchanged if you want to look at ROE or something like that. Really strong, kind of the business. You talked a little bit about the special dividend at the outset of the call, and it is a little bit smaller than some of the previous years. Would I be correct to interpret that maybe an output of that is the expression of your confidence in the durability of that growth or that growth going forward, and that that's where you'd prefer to allocate capital versus giving it back? Those growth opportunities are there. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:13:14Mr. Carletti, that is exactly what you should infer into the dividend. I'm excited about the $1 dividend, no question, but I think it definitely infers that we believe what we have going here in terms of our growth strategy is not short lived. I believe it has longevity. We've said since the very beginning when we started paying out the special dividend, part of the reason that we were returning that capital to shareholders is because we had internally made the decision it wasn't the right time to really pour that into organic growth because we wanted that growth to be profitable growth. Now we've had these quarters of top line growth and it's starting to flow through on the earnings, and that dividend, we're using that capital and deploying that capital toward that organic growth. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:14:02Fantastic. I'm glad I put those puzzle pieces together. Okay, thanks for the color. Appreciate it. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:14:08Thank you, Matt. Operator00:14:12If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question is going to come from Marcus from Truist. Operator00:14:28Janelle, or I'll say Andy, in the spirit of the question about the special dividend and the growth opportunities, how do you view your leverage now, and how much flexibility do you have on the balance sheet? This would be underwriting leverage. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:14:51It is going up, but it's at one. I mean, from our standpoint, I don't think it's really changed. It's, I think it's increased a little bit, but it's right at one. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:15:06What would you see as kind of the upper bound, you know, kind of comfortably? Where would you be able to take that? Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:15:15I would say about $1.5 million. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:15:18Okay, what's the latest on medical inflation? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:15:30You know, there's been quite a few articles. AM Best actually put out a second report on workers' compensation insurance and they, you know, spoke to medical inflation. Certainly everyone has their eye on it. We're not immune to medical inflation. At the same time, I believe the fee schedules and the fee structure in workers' compensation insurance is probably abating that to some degree for workers' compensation insurance much more than it is for non workers' compensation insurance things, you know, things people are seeing in their healthcare renewals and those kinds of things. I do think we have some relief from the fee schedules. In terms of medical inflation, utilization is something, and I think we talked about this on the last call. Utilization is something NCCI sort of pointed to when they talked about the 6% increase they saw in medical inflation. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:16:22Something certainly we're keeping our eyes on, particularly home health. I've been talking about for a number of years and I'll continue to talk about home health. Even in terms of physician visits, what we've kind of noticed is a little bit more PA visits, or physician assistant visits, which sometimes lead to additional visits because a doctor has to sign off on a release of a patient. We're just keeping our eye on that. I don't know there's anything that's more anecdotal than in the data yet, but utilization is something we want to keep our eye on since the fee schedules seem to be doing their job. We know that there is a shortage in the healthcare industry in terms of some services being available. Those are the things we're watching out for. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:17:11Yeah, what's in the latest trend in terms of the approved state loss costs? The most recent ones. Any trend there? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:17:21Great question. We have, I think, four states that had increases: Missouri, D.C., Nevada, California. We talked about California on the last call. Those are the ones that I think had increases. On average, what we're seeing, and most of the loss costs for 2026 are already in and approved, is pretty steady state mid single digit declines. I did look at the CIAB study, because they survey agents and ask them what they're seeing in terms of their clients' renewals. I noticed they haven't put their third quarter data out, but in their second quarter data, more than 50% were basically seeing no change. That would say if that's an accurate depiction of what agents are seeing or what's actually happening in the marketplace, that would lead you to believe that carriers are being relatively disciplined. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:18:19The loss cost may be down in terms of the absolute loss cost, but what they're using in terms of their average pricing is sort of flat, at least based on that agent survey. That's a sign of, I would speak to, relative discipline in the marketplace. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:18:38You'd mentioned your insured payrolls are expanding. Any specific comments on wage growth, how wage growth is compared in 3Q to last few quarters? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:18:55Right, yeah. Wage growth in the quarter, we saw about 6.7%. The total was about 8.9%. 6.7% was actual wage changes and a new employee count was. I was happy to see that 2% in new employee count. If you recall, last quarter it was actually slightly negative. I wondered, okay, is this a blip or is this a data point in terms of is there something happening with integration with our particular employee base? It sort of bounced back to norms this quarter. I feel pretty confident about that. That was just a blip last quarter. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:32What was the wage last quarter? Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:19:34Wage growth, 5.7%. Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:19:37Okay. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:40If I look at the last four quarters, it was 5,563, 5,767. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:47Okay, very good. How about the large losses in the quarter? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:54We ended the quarter with 17 large losses, over $1 million. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:02That's year-to-date. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:04Year-to-date, yes. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:06Yeah, that's up a little bit, isn't it? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:09I think at this point last year we were at 13, if I recall correctly, for 2024, but then we had an uptick in the fourth quarter. I'll go to my favorite saying. Unfortunately, these things are lumpy. I never know what quarters they're going to happen in. I'll also say this: when we file the Q later today, I believe you'll look at claim counts. Reported claim counts on a year-to-date basis are ever so slightly up, but I think it's a pretty remarkable number when you think about how much we've grown policy count, yet the claim counts really haven't varied very much. I think that speaks to what I was saying earlier about frequency is low. I mean, there's no denying that. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:53Yep. Anything on the competitive front, Brand X talking more about tax getting into high hazard? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:21:03Great question. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:21:04It is still extremely competitive. There hasn't been a lot of movement in terms of competitors either increasing or decreasing their appetite. I think we see it occasionally in a particular class, maybe, or in a given state, but it's usually because maybe they had a bad experience in that particular state or class code. That's actually one of the selling points for AMERISAFE with our agents, the fact that we are so consistent about our approach. We've been doing this since 1986, and if you look at our footprint and the classes of business that we underwrite, there's a lot of stability there. That's actually, to me, one of the value propositions for agents for AMERISAFE. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:21:53Any thoughts? When we think about audit premium, obviously that's led to some just a little bit of headwind in terms of the written premium, but corrected for that, obviously you've been up double digits. If you're seeing a little more wage growth, is that a positive for audit premium or should that continue to moderate? What are the puts and takes there? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:22:26That's a really interesting way to look at it. You know, this is just my take on it. I do feel that the wage growth numbers that we're seeing now speak well to future audit premium. At the same time, I have to be very cognizant of all the things that are happening in the economy right now with inflation, and everybody's talking about jobs, jobs, jobs. We've seen these headlines of major layoffs. I feel our industry groups, being the skilled laborers, are somewhat protected from the types of layoffs that we seem to be seeing nationwide. A lot of those are at least anecdotally being pointed to things like, oh, AI is helping us gain efficiencies, et cetera, et cetera, and that's why we're lowering headcount. I do think companies are looking for efficiencies as well. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:23:17That being said, with skilled labor jobs, it's a little bit of a different story there. If we can maintain the wage growth, it should bear well for future audit premium moderating, I would think, over time. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:23:34Okay. Last standard question. How about the construction end market? The next job being important. Any observations there? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:23:50Yeah, based on the payrolls that are being reported to us and the fact that, you know, I'll point to that new employee count number kind of bouncing back to normal, the economies for our insured base are holding up really well as of right now. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:24:06Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Janelle. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:24:13Thank you. Operator00:24:17If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question is going to come from Bob Barnum from Janney. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:24:30Hey there. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:24:30Good morning. There was a mark. Had you asked the question about the claims, claims counts, given the growth and top line in the graph and the number of policies. Mike, he actually had a question on your claim staff. Did you have you increased claims staff to be able to handle an influx of more claims, even though I understand that the frequency is down, so it really hasn't happened yet. I'm just kind of curious how your claim staff is situated in case claims do start to increase? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:25:03No, we have not really increased the number of claim staff. I'll backtrack on that a little bit to say, you know, we run a very lean organization, but at the same time, when our claim counts were dipping down, we also did not decrease our claim staff because of the expertise they bring to the table. We want to keep those inventories really low. That's not something that we felt like we should dial down and dial back, then try to dial back up. The number of claims staff has not changed. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:25:34Okay. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:25:34Yeah, I figured they have. I understand they have a lower volume of claims they already handled, so I wasn't surprised that they would be able to handle it in house. Just curious, are you actively looking to expand into any other states? If so, what's causing you not to at this point? I'm just kind of curious if you're even looking at this point. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:26:02We are constantly looking. We have a committee here that is always looking at class codes and geographies of where we're not and maybe where we should be or where we are and maybe we're not having a great experience, whatever the case may be. I would always say that we are continually considering that, nothing on the near horizon. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:26:24Right. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:26:24Okay. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:26:26The last question I had was on the fee schedules. Obviously, it sounds like that's helping to contain medical costs. Just to know, on average, how long do fee schedules stay in place before they're renewed, and do you see that, you know, fee schedules are renewed, will that have an impact? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:26:42Yeah, very, very appropriate. They are updated somewhat regularly, and of course, a lot of them are based on, there's a lot of things based off Medicare, Medicaid. However, how often that gets updated, plus there is also a political side to that. If I can say, you know, if workers' compensation becomes an issue in any given state legislatively, they will get involved to make some things happen. As of right now, and I'll knock on this wooden desk, workers' comp doesn't seem to be at the top of anyone's agenda because there are so many other things happening in the P&C space, particularly with homeowners and auto, that legislators are more apt to try to find solutions for. Workers' comp has been pretty kind of steady state. I think employers are relatively happy with the things that are happening. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:27:34Carriers are pretty much satisfied with the way things are happening. As of right now, it doesn't seem to be on the top, at least to my knowledge, of any legislative agendas in a large way that would cause the fee schedules to change. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:27:47Yeah, it can make sense. Don't fix what's not broken at this point. Okay, that's it for me. Thanks for the color. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:27:55Thank you, Bob. Operator00:28:01There appears to be no further questions in the queue at this time. I'd now like to turn the conference back over to Janelle Frost, CEO, for any additional or closing remarks. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:28:11Thank you. We are pleased with this quarter's results and the successes we are having in adding small incremental growth while maintaining the standards that make AMERISAFE a profitable underwriter of high hazard workers' compensation. Thank you for joining us today. Operator00:28:32This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJanelle FrostPresident and CEOAndy OmiridisCFOKathryn ShirleySVP and General CounselAnalystsAnalyst at TruistBob BarnumAnalyst at JanneyMatt CarlettiAnalyst at CitizensPowered by Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly Report(10-Q) AMERISAFE Earnings HeadlinesTop 10 small-cap financial stocks with the lowest momentum gradesSeptember 18 at 1:35 PM | msn.comAMERISAFE Inc.September 15, 2026 | marketwatch.comThe end may be near for these iconic stocksMarc Chaikin, founder of Chaikin Analytics, says two forces - AI disruption and fracturing global trade - are triggering a historic wealth transfer already underway in 2026. Household names like Intuit (-57%), Boston Scientific (-49%), and Tractor Supply (-40%) are cratering, while lesser-known companies like Sandisk (+573%) and Rackspace (+444%) surge. Chaikin has identified specific stocks he believes investors should sell before they fall further - and the names may surprise you. 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Email Address About AMERISAFEAMERISAFE (NASDAQ:AMSF) (NASDAQ: AMSF) is a specialty workers’ compensation insurance company headquartered in DeRidder, Louisiana. Through its insurance subsidiaries, the company provides workers’ compensation coverage to small and mid-sized employers whose operations involve relatively high workplace risks. The company focuses on industries such as construction, trucking, logging, agriculture, manufacturing, oil and gas, and other hazardous occupations. Its services include workers’ compensation underwriting, claims administration, workplace safety and loss-control services, and premium auditing. AMERISAFE primarily serves employers across the southeastern and other selected regions of the United States. The company was founded in 1985 and became a publicly traded company in 2005. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day and welcome to the AMERISAFE third quarter 2025 earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Kathryn Shirley. Please go ahead. Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:00:12Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the AMERISAFE 2025 third quarter investor call. If you have not received the earnings release, it is available on our website at amerisafe.com. This call is being recorded. A replay of today's call will be available. Details on how to access the replay are in the earnings release. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements intended to fall within the safe harbor provided under the securities laws. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:00:50Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements if the underlying assumptions prove to be incorrect or as the result of risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including factors discussed in the earnings release, in the comments made during today's call, and in the risk factors section of our Form 10-K, Form 10-Qs, and other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. I will now turn the call over to Janelle Frost, AMERISAFE's President and CEO. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:01:26Thank you, Kathryn, and good morning. We are pleased that our growth strategy in this competitive market is yielding a healthy 20.5% return on average equity and a 90.6% combined ratio for the quarter. Our continued success in the market reflects the strength of the AMERISAFE value proposition. At our core, we are a profitable underwriter focused on knowing our risks, pricing them appropriately, and servicing our policyholders and their workers. In doing so, we are a better carrier for our agents and create long term value for our shareholders. This is our sixth consecutive quarter of top line growth. Voluntary premiums on policies written in the quarter grew 10.6% combined with audit premiums. Our gross premiums written grew 7.2%, and net earned grew 6.2% over the third quarter of 2024. We are seeing the compound benefits of disciplined underwriting, robust new business production, and strong renewal performance. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:02:30Turning to losses, our accident year loss ratio was in line with the prior year end quarter at 71%. Frequency remains at historically low levels, while severity continues to notch higher on a year-over-year basis. We are confident that our claims handling practices, coupled with upfront risk selection, remain consistent and disciplined in the current environment. Thus, the company experienced $8.9 million of favorable reserve development on prior accident years, primarily accident years 2020 and prior. In addition to announcing the quarterly results, we also announced the Board of Directors declared both a regular quarterly dividend of $0.39 per share and a $1 special dividend payable on December 12, 2025, to shareholders as of December 5, 2025. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:03:22The Board takes a comprehensive approach when evaluating capital deployment, considering both the regular quarterly dividend, share repurchases, and any special dividend within the broader framework of AMERISAFE's capital position, operating performance, and future growth opportunities. This balanced strategy ensures that we continue to reward shareholders while maintaining the flexibility to invest in the business and support long term value creation. Our capital management philosophy remains consistent: profitability drives capital, and capital is deployed with discipline. We are proud of our track record. Over the past 13 years, AMERISAFE has declared nearly $50 per share in total dividends, including $12.68 in regular dividends and $37.25 in special dividends per share. Along with managing capital, the continued investment we are making in our people and technology is reflected in our solid top line growth at industry leading returns, delivering long term value to our shareholders. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:04:32With that, I'll turn the call over to Andy to discuss the financials. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:04:35Thank you Janelle and good morning to everyone. For the third quarter of 2025, AMERISAFE reported net income of $13.8 million or $0.72 per diluted share and operating net income of $10.6 million or $0.55 per diluted share. During the third quarter of 2024, net income was $14.3 million or $0.75 per diluted share and operating net income was $11.1 million or $0.58 per diluted share. Gross written premiums were $80.3 million in the quarter compared with $74.9 million in Q3 of 2024, increasing 7.2%. Audit premiums increased the top line by $2.5 million compared with $4 million in the prior year quarter. Despite the audit premium headwinds, voluntary premium grew. Growth of 10.6% fueled by new business production and strong retention is driving top line growth. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:05:32Our total underwriting and other expenses were $22.1 million in the quarter compared with $21.3 million in the prior year quarter, which resulted in an expense ratio of 31.1% compared with 31.7% in the prior year quarter. The expense ratio reflects ongoing investment in AMERISAFE's growth as we see elevated opportunity in our target markets. Our effective tax rate was 21% compared to 19.5% in the prior year quarter. Turning to our investment portfolio, in the third quarter, net investment income decreased 12.3% to $6.6 million, driven by a decrease in average investable assets following the payment of the special dividend in the fourth quarter of 2024. At quarter end, we held approximately $817 million in investments, cash and cash equivalents compared to $899 million at September 30, 2024. The reinvestment rate environment remained fairly strong with some moderation. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:06:33Compared to the second quarter of 2025, yields on new investments exceeded portfolio roll off by 77 basis points, driving the portfolio tax equivalent book yield to 3.9%, relatively flat versus the third quarter of 2024. The yield on cash held in money market funds ended the quarter at 4% compared to 4.8% at the end of the prior year quarter. The unrealized gain for the equity securities was $4.1 million compared to $3.9 million in the prior year quarter. Both periods were driven by strength in the U.S. equity market. Our investment portfolio remains high quality, carrying an average AA minus credit rating with a duration of 4.3 years. The composition of the portfolio is 61% in municipal bonds, 21% in corporate bonds, 3% in U.S. treasuries and agencies, 7% in equity securities and 8% in cash and other investments. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:07:31Approximately 45% of the portfolio is classified as held to maturity, which maintains a net unrealized loss position of $7.6 million. As a reminder, these securities are carried at amortized cost and therefore unrealized gains and losses are not reflected in our reported book value. Our capital position is strong with a high quality balance sheet, solid loss reserve position, and conservative investment portfolio. During the third quarter, the company repurchased roughly 31,000 shares at an average cost of $43.72 per share, totaling $1.3 million. Finally, a couple of other topics. Book value per share increased to $14.47, up 7.1% year-to-date. Statutory surplus was $259 million compared to $235.1 million at year end 2024. Lastly, we will be filing our Form 10-Q with the SEC later today, October 30, 2025, after the close of the market. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:08:31With that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for the question-and-answer portion. Operator. Operator00:08:38Thank you. If you are dialed in via the telephone and would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone key. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. Our first question is going to come from Matt Carletti. Please go ahead. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:09:05Hey, thanks. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:09:06Good morning. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:09:07Good morning, Matt. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:09:09Janelle, I was hoping maybe to start off. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:09:12Obviously, voluntary premium growth has been kind of solid double digits for a couple quarters now, which is a great kind of emerging trend. Could you talk a little bit about where you're seeing success, where that growth is coming from, if it's any particular areas, or maybe it's just more broad based and it's pretty evenly across all aspects of your business. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:09:36Thank you for noticing. I'm also pleased to say it's more broad based. We have grown policy count; in the quarter over second quarter, we grew policy count roughly 2.7% on a year-to-year basis. It's more like 11% year-over-year for policy count. We're growing policy count, which is very important. Our insured payrolls are expanding as well, which is also a positive. Particularly in this market, when you read all of the headlines about things that are happening in unemployment and wage growth expectations, our skilled labor jobs in our high hazard industries are faring pretty well. That helps support premiums. In terms of payroll growth, we're seeing still very strong retention on a renewal basis. For the quarter, our renewal retention for the policies for which we offered renewal was 93.6%, a very healthy number. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:10:31I think actually that was the same number we had prior year quarter. Even in this crazy competitive market that we're in, we're able to maintain those accounts that we want to maintain through a lot of collaborative effort from the AMERISAFE employees. I can't emphasize that enough. We have a seasoned sales staff. The way we utilize our safety services as part of the risk selection process is truly a value add, not only for our underwriters and helping our underwriters understand the risk and price the risk appropriately, but also a value add for our policyholders and their agents. The fact that that is an AMERISAFE contact that they have and that builds relationships with those policyholders and with those agents is critical to what we do and it's unique to AMERISAFE. I think that's huge on our part. I certainly can't not mention our claim family experience. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:11:35From a renewal retention standpoint, I truly believe the way we handle claims benefits us from a renewals perspective. If you've had a claim and it's handled by an AMERISAFE employee, we handle it the right way and we treat those injured workers well and that's meaningful to a policyholder. All of those things together I think is really adding to the growth effort in terms of just the amount of collaboration that we're having. We've really been focused on ease of doing business, speed to market, and it's just compounding and bearing fruit now in those growth numbers. I'll caveat that by saying all without—we're not adding, we haven't added class codes, we haven't expanded geographically. It's really market penetration and better serving, better working with our agents. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:12:28Great, thank you. If I kind of try to tie it one step further, as I look at your business, financially, earnings returns have been strong for many years now and really unchanged if you want to look at ROE or something like that. Really strong, kind of the business. You talked a little bit about the special dividend at the outset of the call, and it is a little bit smaller than some of the previous years. Would I be correct to interpret that maybe an output of that is the expression of your confidence in the durability of that growth or that growth going forward, and that that's where you'd prefer to allocate capital versus giving it back? Those growth opportunities are there. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:13:14Mr. Carletti, that is exactly what you should infer into the dividend. I'm excited about the $1 dividend, no question, but I think it definitely infers that we believe what we have going here in terms of our growth strategy is not short lived. I believe it has longevity. We've said since the very beginning when we started paying out the special dividend, part of the reason that we were returning that capital to shareholders is because we had internally made the decision it wasn't the right time to really pour that into organic growth because we wanted that growth to be profitable growth. Now we've had these quarters of top line growth and it's starting to flow through on the earnings, and that dividend, we're using that capital and deploying that capital toward that organic growth. Matt CarlettiAnalyst at Citizens00:14:02Fantastic. I'm glad I put those puzzle pieces together. Okay, thanks for the color. Appreciate it. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:14:08Thank you, Matt. Operator00:14:12If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question is going to come from Marcus from Truist. Operator00:14:28Janelle, or I'll say Andy, in the spirit of the question about the special dividend and the growth opportunities, how do you view your leverage now, and how much flexibility do you have on the balance sheet? This would be underwriting leverage. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:14:51It is going up, but it's at one. I mean, from our standpoint, I don't think it's really changed. It's, I think it's increased a little bit, but it's right at one. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:15:06What would you see as kind of the upper bound, you know, kind of comfortably? Where would you be able to take that? Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:15:15I would say about $1.5 million. Andy OmiridisCFO at AMERISAFE00:15:18Okay, what's the latest on medical inflation? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:15:30You know, there's been quite a few articles. AM Best actually put out a second report on workers' compensation insurance and they, you know, spoke to medical inflation. Certainly everyone has their eye on it. We're not immune to medical inflation. At the same time, I believe the fee schedules and the fee structure in workers' compensation insurance is probably abating that to some degree for workers' compensation insurance much more than it is for non workers' compensation insurance things, you know, things people are seeing in their healthcare renewals and those kinds of things. I do think we have some relief from the fee schedules. In terms of medical inflation, utilization is something, and I think we talked about this on the last call. Utilization is something NCCI sort of pointed to when they talked about the 6% increase they saw in medical inflation. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:16:22Something certainly we're keeping our eyes on, particularly home health. I've been talking about for a number of years and I'll continue to talk about home health. Even in terms of physician visits, what we've kind of noticed is a little bit more PA visits, or physician assistant visits, which sometimes lead to additional visits because a doctor has to sign off on a release of a patient. We're just keeping our eye on that. I don't know there's anything that's more anecdotal than in the data yet, but utilization is something we want to keep our eye on since the fee schedules seem to be doing their job. We know that there is a shortage in the healthcare industry in terms of some services being available. Those are the things we're watching out for. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:17:11Yeah, what's in the latest trend in terms of the approved state loss costs? The most recent ones. Any trend there? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:17:21Great question. We have, I think, four states that had increases: Missouri, D.C., Nevada, California. We talked about California on the last call. Those are the ones that I think had increases. On average, what we're seeing, and most of the loss costs for 2026 are already in and approved, is pretty steady state mid single digit declines. I did look at the CIAB study, because they survey agents and ask them what they're seeing in terms of their clients' renewals. I noticed they haven't put their third quarter data out, but in their second quarter data, more than 50% were basically seeing no change. That would say if that's an accurate depiction of what agents are seeing or what's actually happening in the marketplace, that would lead you to believe that carriers are being relatively disciplined. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:18:19The loss cost may be down in terms of the absolute loss cost, but what they're using in terms of their average pricing is sort of flat, at least based on that agent survey. That's a sign of, I would speak to, relative discipline in the marketplace. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:18:38You'd mentioned your insured payrolls are expanding. Any specific comments on wage growth, how wage growth is compared in 3Q to last few quarters? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:18:55Right, yeah. Wage growth in the quarter, we saw about 6.7%. The total was about 8.9%. 6.7% was actual wage changes and a new employee count was. I was happy to see that 2% in new employee count. If you recall, last quarter it was actually slightly negative. I wondered, okay, is this a blip or is this a data point in terms of is there something happening with integration with our particular employee base? It sort of bounced back to norms this quarter. I feel pretty confident about that. That was just a blip last quarter. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:32What was the wage last quarter? Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:19:34Wage growth, 5.7%. Kathryn ShirleySVP and General Counsel at AMERISAFE00:19:37Okay. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:40If I look at the last four quarters, it was 5,563, 5,767. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:47Okay, very good. How about the large losses in the quarter? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:19:54We ended the quarter with 17 large losses, over $1 million. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:02That's year-to-date. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:04Year-to-date, yes. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:06Yeah, that's up a little bit, isn't it? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:09I think at this point last year we were at 13, if I recall correctly, for 2024, but then we had an uptick in the fourth quarter. I'll go to my favorite saying. Unfortunately, these things are lumpy. I never know what quarters they're going to happen in. I'll also say this: when we file the Q later today, I believe you'll look at claim counts. Reported claim counts on a year-to-date basis are ever so slightly up, but I think it's a pretty remarkable number when you think about how much we've grown policy count, yet the claim counts really haven't varied very much. I think that speaks to what I was saying earlier about frequency is low. I mean, there's no denying that. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:20:53Yep. Anything on the competitive front, Brand X talking more about tax getting into high hazard? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:21:03Great question. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:21:04It is still extremely competitive. There hasn't been a lot of movement in terms of competitors either increasing or decreasing their appetite. I think we see it occasionally in a particular class, maybe, or in a given state, but it's usually because maybe they had a bad experience in that particular state or class code. That's actually one of the selling points for AMERISAFE with our agents, the fact that we are so consistent about our approach. We've been doing this since 1986, and if you look at our footprint and the classes of business that we underwrite, there's a lot of stability there. That's actually, to me, one of the value propositions for agents for AMERISAFE. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:21:53Any thoughts? When we think about audit premium, obviously that's led to some just a little bit of headwind in terms of the written premium, but corrected for that, obviously you've been up double digits. If you're seeing a little more wage growth, is that a positive for audit premium or should that continue to moderate? What are the puts and takes there? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:22:26That's a really interesting way to look at it. You know, this is just my take on it. I do feel that the wage growth numbers that we're seeing now speak well to future audit premium. At the same time, I have to be very cognizant of all the things that are happening in the economy right now with inflation, and everybody's talking about jobs, jobs, jobs. We've seen these headlines of major layoffs. I feel our industry groups, being the skilled laborers, are somewhat protected from the types of layoffs that we seem to be seeing nationwide. A lot of those are at least anecdotally being pointed to things like, oh, AI is helping us gain efficiencies, et cetera, et cetera, and that's why we're lowering headcount. I do think companies are looking for efficiencies as well. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:23:17That being said, with skilled labor jobs, it's a little bit of a different story there. If we can maintain the wage growth, it should bear well for future audit premium moderating, I would think, over time. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:23:34Okay. Last standard question. How about the construction end market? The next job being important. Any observations there? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:23:50Yeah, based on the payrolls that are being reported to us and the fact that, you know, I'll point to that new employee count number kind of bouncing back to normal, the economies for our insured base are holding up really well as of right now. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:24:06Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Janelle. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:24:13Thank you. Operator00:24:17If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question is going to come from Bob Barnum from Janney. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:24:30Hey there. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:24:30Good morning. There was a mark. Had you asked the question about the claims, claims counts, given the growth and top line in the graph and the number of policies. Mike, he actually had a question on your claim staff. Did you have you increased claims staff to be able to handle an influx of more claims, even though I understand that the frequency is down, so it really hasn't happened yet. I'm just kind of curious how your claim staff is situated in case claims do start to increase? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:25:03No, we have not really increased the number of claim staff. I'll backtrack on that a little bit to say, you know, we run a very lean organization, but at the same time, when our claim counts were dipping down, we also did not decrease our claim staff because of the expertise they bring to the table. We want to keep those inventories really low. That's not something that we felt like we should dial down and dial back, then try to dial back up. The number of claims staff has not changed. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:25:34Okay. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:25:34Yeah, I figured they have. I understand they have a lower volume of claims they already handled, so I wasn't surprised that they would be able to handle it in house. Just curious, are you actively looking to expand into any other states? If so, what's causing you not to at this point? I'm just kind of curious if you're even looking at this point. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:26:02We are constantly looking. We have a committee here that is always looking at class codes and geographies of where we're not and maybe where we should be or where we are and maybe we're not having a great experience, whatever the case may be. I would always say that we are continually considering that, nothing on the near horizon. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:26:24Right. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:26:24Okay. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:26:26The last question I had was on the fee schedules. Obviously, it sounds like that's helping to contain medical costs. Just to know, on average, how long do fee schedules stay in place before they're renewed, and do you see that, you know, fee schedules are renewed, will that have an impact? Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:26:42Yeah, very, very appropriate. They are updated somewhat regularly, and of course, a lot of them are based on, there's a lot of things based off Medicare, Medicaid. However, how often that gets updated, plus there is also a political side to that. If I can say, you know, if workers' compensation becomes an issue in any given state legislatively, they will get involved to make some things happen. As of right now, and I'll knock on this wooden desk, workers' comp doesn't seem to be at the top of anyone's agenda because there are so many other things happening in the P&C space, particularly with homeowners and auto, that legislators are more apt to try to find solutions for. Workers' comp has been pretty kind of steady state. I think employers are relatively happy with the things that are happening. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:27:34Carriers are pretty much satisfied with the way things are happening. As of right now, it doesn't seem to be on the top, at least to my knowledge, of any legislative agendas in a large way that would cause the fee schedules to change. Bob BarnumAnalyst at Janney00:27:47Yeah, it can make sense. Don't fix what's not broken at this point. Okay, that's it for me. Thanks for the color. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:27:55Thank you, Bob. Operator00:28:01There appears to be no further questions in the queue at this time. I'd now like to turn the conference back over to Janelle Frost, CEO, for any additional or closing remarks. Janelle FrostPresident and CEO at AMERISAFE00:28:11Thank you. We are pleased with this quarter's results and the successes we are having in adding small incremental growth while maintaining the standards that make AMERISAFE a profitable underwriter of high hazard workers' compensation. Thank you for joining us today. Operator00:28:32This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJanelle FrostPresident and CEOAndy OmiridisCFOKathryn ShirleySVP and General CounselAnalystsAnalyst at TruistBob BarnumAnalyst at JanneyMatt CarlettiAnalyst at CitizensPowered by