NASDAQ:INVE Identiv Q3 2025 Earnings Report $2.32 -0.03 (-1.28%) As of 01:06 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Identiv EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.15Consensus EPS -$0.23Beat/MissBeat by +$0.08One Year Ago EPSN/AIdentiv Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$5.01 millionExpected Revenue$5.00 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$9.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AIdentiv Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date11/10/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, November 10, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsIdentiv's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Monday, November 9, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Identiv Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 10, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Manufacturing transition completed: 100% of RFID tags, inlays, and labels are now produced at the new Thailand facility, which management says materially lowered costs and drove the meaningful gross-margin improvement reported this quarter. Neutral Sentiment: Mixed Q3 financials: Revenue was $5.0M (in line with guidance, down YoY as lower-margin business was exited), GAAP net loss narrowed to $3.5M, non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss improved, and cash totaled $126.6M with 12‑month net operating cash use of $13.4M within guidance. Positive Sentiment: BLE and NPD progress accelerating commercialization: First production runs for IFCO BLE prototypes and Wiliot next‑gen pixels were completed and Identiv formalized a manufacturing partnership with Wiliot, positioning BLE and multi‑component products as key future revenue drivers. Positive Sentiment: Growing pipeline and product development metrics: management reported 118 new opportunities (18% conversion year‑to‑date), 17 active NPD projects (11 customer‑driven), and three NPD completions this quarter, signalling expanding commercial traction across high‑value segments. Neutral Sentiment: Strategic alternatives under review: The company continues to work with Raymond James to assess M&A and other Transform initiatives intended to accelerate EBITDA breakeven, but no definitive transactions or targets were announced. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallIdentiv Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. Welcome to Identiv's presentation of its third quarter 2025 earnings call. My name is John, and I will be your operator this afternoon. Joining us for today's presentation are the company's CEO, Kirsten Newquist, and CFO, Ed Kirnbauer. Following management's remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, please note that during this call, management may be making references to non-GAAP financial measures or guidance, including non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP gross profit, non-GAAP gross margin, and non-GAAP operating expenses. In addition, during the call, management will be making forward-looking statements, any statement that refers to expectations, projections, or other characteristics of future events, including future financial results, future business and market conditions and opportunities, strategic partnerships and collaborations, and any related benefits and attributes, and future plans, strategies, opportunities, and goals is a forward-looking statement. Operator00:01:09Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward-looking statements. For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in documents filed from time to time with the SEC, including the company's latest annual report on Form 10-K, as well as our third quarter 10-Q once filed. Identiv assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to CEO Kirsten Newquist for her comments. Ms. Newquist, please proceed. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:01:42Thanks, Operator, and thank you all for joining our quarter three 2025 earnings call. As we review this quarter's results, I want to highlight that our Perform, Accelerate, and Transform strategy continues to guide everything we do, from serving our customers and building our pipeline to driving innovation and commercial momentum in our high-value segments and delivering on our financial commitments. This strategy remains central to transforming the organization and creating lasting value for our shareholders. I'm pleased to report that in quarter three, sales were in line with guidance, with all other key financial metrics exceeding expectations. This quarter is particularly notable for our improved gross profit margin, which reflects the initial benefits of completing our two-year transition of production from Singapore to our new state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in Thailand. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:02:43This is the first quarter in which all of our production has been done in Thailand, a significant milestone that has meaningfully lowered our cost structure, enhanced efficiency and scalability, and positioned us well for continued margin growth. We expect further margin expansion over the next few quarters as we complete the Singapore site shutdown by year-end and the Thailand team reaches full productivity. Our CFO, Ed Kirnbauer, will now provide a detailed review of our quarter three financial performance, and I'll return afterward to share more on how we're progressing across our strategic initiatives. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:03:25Thanks, Kirsten. In the third quarter of 2025, we delivered $5.0 million in revenue, which was within our previously announced guidance range, compared to $6.5 million in Q3 2024. This year-over-year decrease was as expected and due to lower sales as we exited lower margin business earlier in the year. Third quarter GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins were 10.7% and 19.1% respectively, compared to GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins of 3.6% and 9.3% respectively in Q3 2024. Factors impacting the increase in gross margin included the reduction in fixed manufacturing overhead costs and direct labor costs at our discontinued Singapore operation, improved utilization of our manufacturing production facility in Thailand, and sales of fully reserved inventory of $0.2 million. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:04:22As we mentioned in our August call, we completed production of RFID inlays and labels in Singapore and the requalification of our customers at our Thailand production facility end of Q2 2025. The facility shutdown activities in Singapore continue to progress as planned and are expected to be substantially completed by year-end. GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses third quarter of 2025, including research and development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses, totaled $6.1 million and $4.5 million respectively, compared to $9.8 million and $5.1 million respectively in Q3 2024. The year-over-year decrease in GAAP operating expenses was driven primarily by a reduction in strategic review-related costs incurred in 2024. The decrease in non-GAAP operating expenses reflects management's targeted resource allocation to support the company's organic growth initiatives, as outlined in our PAT strategy framework. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:05:24Third quarter GAAP net loss from continuing operations was $3.5 million, or $0.15 per basic and diluted share, compared to GAAP net loss from continuing operations of $9.3 million, or $0.40 per basic and diluted share in the third quarter of 2024. This decrease in net loss was primarily due to strategic review-related costs of $3.6 million incurred in the third quarter of 2024, compared to $0.4 million in the third quarter of 2025, a higher year-over-year interest income of $1.1 million, and an income tax benefit of $0.8 million in the third quarter of 2025, compared to an income tax provision of $0.4 million in the comparable quarter of 2024. Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss for Q3 2025 was $3.6 million, compared to $4.5 million in the third quarter of 2024. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:06:21The decrease in the loss was primarily due to the reduction in fixed manufacturing costs at our Singapore facility, improved utilization of our manufacturing production facility in Thailand, as well as management's continued careful allocation of operating expenses as we execute on our PAT strategic initiatives. In the appendix of today's presentation, we have provided a full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial information, which is also included in our earnings release. Moving now to the balance sheet, we exited Q3 2025 with $126.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. In the third quarter of 2025, we used $3.1 million in cash. This brings our total net operating cash use for the 12 months following September 30, 2024, the end of Q3 2024, to $13.4 million, well within our previously announced guidance range of $13 million-$15 million. Our working capital exiting Q3 was $135.4 million. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:07:24Our balance sheet position remains strong. In our 10-Q filing, we will be providing a full reconciliation of year-to-date cash flows. For completeness, we have included the full balance sheet in the appendix of today's earnings release. Lastly, our financial outlook, which is based on current market conditions and expectations, including macroeconomic conditions and customer demand. As of today's call for Q4 2025, we currently expect net revenue in the range of $5.4 million-$5.9 million. This concludes the financial discussion. I'll now pass the call back to Kirsten. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:08:02Thanks, Ed. As you just heard, we delivered results that met or exceeded our guidance, a solid step forward as we continue executing against our perform, accelerate, and transform strategy. While we know there's more work ahead to reach our overall financial goals, we're encouraged by the tangible progress we're making. Across each pillar, performing with focus, accelerating across our high-value segments, and ultimately transforming our business, we're building a strong foundation for sustained and profitable growth. Let me now share how this progress is unfolding across our organization. Perform delivers exceptional results for customers and drives operational excellence. Our first pillar, perform, is focused on strengthening and growing our core channel business. To achieve this, we are prioritizing higher margin opportunities, extending gross margins through our Thailand transition, and executing our new product development, NPD, pipeline with greater discipline. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:09:11Our goal is to consistently exceed customer expectations through exceptional support, reliable performance, and on-time delivery. As I mentioned in my opening comments, we reached a major milestone in our manufacturing transformation this quarter. 100% of our RFID tags, inlays, and labels are now produced at our new state-of-the-art Thailand facility. The Singapore site shutdown is on track for completion by year-end, marking the end of a successful two-year transition. The Thailand facility has lowered manufacturing costs, improved efficiency, and enhanced scalability, laying a stronger foundation for continued margin growth. To further advance operational excellence, we launched CRM and MRP automation initiatives earlier this year to streamline key sales and operations planning processes. We've made steady progress and expect to have these systems largely implemented by year-end, strengthening our operational foundation and ensuring scalability as we grow. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:10:22On the commercial front, our new opportunity pipeline continues to expand, driven by new sales team members ramping up across our territories and channel partners. So far this year, we've converted 18% of our new opportunity pipeline, representing almost 10% of quarter three sales, with additional growth expected as this new business scales. Implementing HubSpot to enhance lead generation and visibility, and preparing to launch our new corporate website by year-end. We also launched in Germany and Label Expo in Barcelona, both generating meaningful customer engagement and reinforcing strategic partnerships. At Label Expo, our own VP of Business Development, Klaus Zimmermeyer, and Nerivero CEO, Thomas Rohding, shared insights on DPP compliance during a dynamic NFC RFID panel at the Smart Labeling Seminar 2025, further strengthening Identiv's position as an innovation leader. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:11:49Finally, the TSA transition with Vitaprotech is now substantially complete, and we are fully separated from the physical security business we sold one year ago, a key milestone marking our strategic focus and transition to being a pure play in IoT and RFID technologies. Accelerate, accelerate growth in high-value segments and through technology innovation. Moving to the second pillar of our PAT framework, accelerate, we are advancing three specific growth initiatives to build our pipeline and drive long-term revenue and margin expansion. One, expanding our BLE technology platform and multi-component manufacturing capabilities. Two, targeting growth in three healthcare high-value applications. And three, further driving growth in three consumer and logistics high-value applications. This quarter, we made notable progress in R&D and new product development, particularly in our Bluetooth Low Energy BLE programs. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:12:55BLE represents the next generation of IoT technology, offering real-time traceability and condition monitoring capabilities that are difficult to achieve with traditional RFID. We believe the technical complexity of BLE smart label design and manufacturability aligns well with our engineering expertise and gives us a clear competitive advantage. We successfully completed the first production runs of the IFCO BLE prototypes and Wiliot's next generation pixels, key milestones in the development and commercialization of two important customer-driven BLE programs. These achievements, along with the internal development of our BLE shipping label, expand our product portfolio and further strengthen our expertise in next generation RFID technology and multi-component manufacturing. We also formalized a partnership agreement and a manufacturing agreement with Wiliot to scale up and commercialize next generation pixels. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:14:01Wiliot Pixels are small, battery-free Bluetooth sensors powered by harvesting ambient radio frequency energy, enabling continuous transmission of data like temperature, motion, and location for smart supply chain and IoT applications. In healthcare innovation, our R&D work with Lilly was recently highlighted in a new white paper that we published in September, demonstrating our leadership in RFID innovation for drug adherence and delivery. This is a compelling example of how our technology is enabling smarter, safer patients' experiences. We're also advancing collaborations launched earlier this year, including our strategic partnerships with Navanta for medical device applications and Tag and Track for pharmaceutical cold chain management. Additionally, we announced the new commercial partnership with Tuk, bringing our secure NFC technology to children's books. Each book integrates seamlessly with Tuk's speaker through customizable NFC tags, activating guided audio without screens, Wi-Fi, or extra devices. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:15:12Designed for durability and security, this solution is built to scale across classrooms, libraries, and homes, empowering the next generation of young readers. These new interactive books are available for purchase now in Scandinavia, with expansion planned into the rest of Europe. We were also honored as a winner of the World Beverage Innovation Awards in 2025, together with our partners, Zetap by Collect ID and Genuine Analytics AG, for our NFC-powered smart packaging solution that safeguards luxury wine producers and collectors from counterfeiting. This recognition in the Best Technology Innovation category underscores our engineering excellence and collaborative approach to smart packaging. Finally, within our Accelerate initiatives, we completed detailed product roadmaps aligned with our high-value market segments, which is intended to ensure that our innovation and go-to-market efforts are tightly connected to customer needs and strategic priorities. Several of these NPD programs will begin in the next quarter. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:16:22Transform creates significant business expansion and capability growth through M&A for long-term success. Our third pillar, Transform, focuses on expanding the business through strategic M&A that accelerates EBITDA breakeven, broadens our product portfolio, and enhances our technical capabilities. We continue to work with our financial advisor, Raymond James, to assess our strategic alternatives. Metrics. This year, we began reporting several new metrics to monitor our progress against strategic objectives. We're continuing to refine these metrics and plan to establish formal targets in 2026. The quarter three results are for the first metric, new sales pipeline and conversion rate. This metric tracks the number of opportunities with new customers or customers we haven't sold to in over two years. At the end of quarter three, we had 118 new opportunities in our pipeline. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:17:26We added 46, closed 28, and converted 7 to sales, leading to a net increase of 18 over quarter two. We had 100 new opportunities in our pipeline at the end of quarter two and 75 in quarter one, showing a steady increase over time. So far this year, we have converted 18% of our new opportunities to sales. Second, NPD projects. This metric tracks the number of active NPD initiatives. These projects involve the development of entirely new RFID or BLE tags, inlays, or labels. As of the end of quarter three, there were 17 active NPD projects, 11 customer-driven and 6 internally driven. Four of the customer-driven projects target healthcare applications, and four utilize BLE technology, which represents the largest share of potential volume and steady-state revenue. Our third metric, NPD project completion. This metric captures the number of NPD projects completed within the quarter. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:18:38In quarter three, we completed three customer-driven projects, two of which are moving into commercialization. Both projects were for anti-counterfeiting initiatives in the high-end spirits and wine markets, which will be scaling up in 2026. In closing, this was a quarter of steady financial performance and meaningful operational milestones. We met or exceeded guidance, achieved 100% production of tags, inlays, and labels in Thailand, advanced key R&D and commercialization initiatives, and made continued progress across our perform, accelerate, and transform strategy. We reaffirm Identiv's commitment to advancing specialized IoT solutions, expanding our BLE capabilities, and fully leveraging the strategic advantages of our Thailand-based production. By continuing to execute against our perform, accelerate, and transform strategy, we believe we are well-positioned to capture future growth opportunities within the rapidly evolving global IoT market. As we look ahead, our priorities are clear. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:19:52Complete the Singapore site shutdown by year-end, ensure excellent service to our customers while driving productivity and efficiency in Thailand, execute our key new product development initiatives with excellence, expand our commercial and business development pipeline across high-value segments, and position the company for sustained growth and stronger financial performance in 2026 and beyond. I want to take a moment to thank our employees, customers, partners, and shareholders for their continued trust and support. We're encouraged by our progress, confident in our strategy, and excited about the opportunities ahead as we continue to lead in the fast-growing RFID and BLE markets. With that, I'd like to open the call for your questions. Operator, please open the question queue. Operator00:20:49Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Operator00:21:00A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Craig Ellis with B. Riley Financial. Please proceed. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:21:26Yeah, thank you for taking the question and nice job on the gross margins in the quarter. I wanted to start though on the top line. So for the fourth quarter, it looks like we're expecting sales up about 11%. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:21:40The question is, as we look across the different vectors of the business, whether it's channel or NPD conversion, what's driving the growth sequentially and what are some of the gives and takes as we think about tailwinds and headwinds as we exit the year? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:22:00Yeah, no, thank you. Let's see. Definitely, we are seeing some growth from our existing channel customers, but I do think we're also seeing some uptick that's related to some of our BLE projects that we're seeing some additional traction for in the fourth quarter. It's a nice combination of both kind of our perform customers as well as some of the accelerate initiatives that we're starting to see some traction quarter over quarter. Thanks, Kirsten. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:22:32Just speaking of BLE, in the prepared remarks, you talked about progress with IFCO and Wiliot. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:22:43Can we conclude that IFCO is on track for volume shipments in the second half of next year? And Wiliot had previously been talked about as a potential high-volume customer, certainly not the size of IFCO, but high volume. How do we think about what's possible with Wiliot next year? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:23:04Yeah, to start with the IFCO question, yes, we are making progress. Product development is well underway. As we mentioned, we shipped out production-made prototypes that are now being used in proof of concepts in the field. That, of course, a lot of learnings will come from that, and we'll take those learnings and use that to continue to optimize the design. That's progressing well. In terms of Wiliot, we've been working very hard over the last six months to qualify their next generation product. That's underway. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:23:45This quarter, and even last quarter, last quarter was beginning, and this quarter, we will be shipping those next generation products to the field. Both of them are nice opportunities. We're excited about both of them and working really hard to make sure that we can complete the development of the IFCO product and then really help to support all the different Wiliot customers as they look to commercialize the Wiliot solution. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:24:18Great, thank you. If I could sneak one in for Ed. Ed, real nice job by the team with gross margin in the third quarter, with the business getting the benefit of the full Singapore shutdown in the fourth quarter, and with higher revenues and with some of that coming from the higher quality revenue basket that the company's been prioritizing. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:24:47Can you talk a little bit about what we could expect for gross margins in the fourth quarter and if there are any headwinds we need to comprehend? Thank you. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:24:55Thanks, Craig. Yes, our Q3 numbers, we saw significant benefits from the reduction in fixed costs with the discontinuance of our Singapore operations from both an overhead cost perspective and direct labor. Now, we expect that to continue. We will be substantially complete with all shutdown activities in Q4. We are still working through the remainder there. I do not really expect the full impact on gross margin until we enter Q1 of next year. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:25:39Okay. What about other potential benefits such as sales mix and the move to higher margin products as mix goes more towards NPD? Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:25:58I'll let Kirsten talk about that, but I do want to say, in addition to that, we will continue to improve margins with improving the utilization of our Thailand facility. As far as mix? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:26:16Yeah, yeah. I think what we'll see in quarter four, certainly some slight increase in utilization in the Thailand plant that will help. As Ed mentioned, we aren't completely shut down, have shut down Singapore yet. We still have some labor that's getting that whole plant now back to its original state and shut down, etc. We have still a little bit of Singapore-related costs in quarter four. In terms of the mix, we definitely have some of our kind of NPD projects starting to ramp. Those are still a little bit in the ramp-up phase. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:26:51We still have a little bit of ramp-up costs until we get the full productivity of those projects. We do see kind of a slight increase in mix overall going into quarter four. Thanks, Kirsten. Thanks, Ed. Thank you. Okay, the next question comes from Anthony Sturse with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed. Good afternoon, Kirsten and team, and congrats on the move to Thailand getting it complete. Kirsten, of the roughly 21 opportunities that converted to customers, when will they show up in the P&L? If you could just ballpark guess, what percentage of those are above your 28% gross margin goal? Yeah, I think I'm not sure where you're getting the 21 conversion, but we did convert, we have roughly converted 18% year to date of our new opportunity pipelines. That represented in third quarter roughly 10% of our sales. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:27:52Those will definitely continue to scale and grow as we go into 2026. Yeah, no, we were happy to year-to-date, we've converted roughly 18% of our total new opportunity pipeline. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:28:04Roughly what percentage are at your 28% gross margin goal? Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:28:10Yeah, of the new opportunities that converted, I think roughly two-thirds of them were on the higher value side, so higher than 30% gross margin, and probably a third of them were slightly lower than that. Two-thirds of them were what we would consider on the high value side. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:28:33Got it. Good to hear. If you could frame the size of the new opportunity with Wiliot and also similar question, what kind of gross margins would you expect to generate? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:28:46Yeah, so I mean, we're not talking about kind of ultimate sales volume potential with the Wiliot, and that's still progressing. Margins, the opportunity is large. We're scaling up the next generation. We definitely anticipate margins to be quite a bit significantly higher than where they were two years ago, but we're still working to increase those over the next probably three to four quarters. Definitely higher, much higher than where they were back in 2023 and early 2024. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:29:19Got it. The last question for me, Kirsten, with your background in this industry in the healthcare side. I know in quarters past, you've spoke a lot about your healthcare opportunities. Didn't hear a lot on this call. Maybe you can just refresh us where you stand and what you think the opportunity set is on the healthcare side. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:29:38Yeah, we certainly still see a nice opportunity in healthcare, and we see kind of the interest from some of the medical device and the pharmaceutical companies in really engaging in evaluating these types of solutions, but these are also longer-term opportunities. Of our current NPD new product development pipelines, I think roughly a third of them are healthcare-related. They just take longer to get to the commercialization side. We remain positive about the opportunity space. We remain positive about the projects that we have, but we definitely see some of the ones that are on the logistics side, the consumer product side, are getting to market faster than we do with some of the healthcare projects that we're working on. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:30:22Very good. Best of luck. Thank you. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:30:24Okay, thanks so much. Operator00:30:28We have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Kirsten for closing remarks. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:30:33Thanks, Operator. Thank you all again for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Have a good afternoon. Bye-bye. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. Welcome to Identiv's presentation of its third quarter 2025 earnings call. My name is John, and I will be your operator this afternoon. Joining us for today's presentation are the company's CEO, Kirsten Newquist, and CFO, Ed Kirnbauer. Following management's remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, please note that during this call, management may be making references to non-GAAP financial measures or guidance, including non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP gross profit, non-GAAP gross margin, and non-GAAP operating expenses. In addition, during the call, management will be making forward-looking statements, any statement that refers to expectations, projections, or other characteristics of future events, including future financial results, future business and market conditions and opportunities, strategic partnerships and collaborations, and any related benefits and attributes, and future plans, strategies, opportunities, and goals is a forward-looking statement. Operator00:01:09Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward-looking statements. For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in documents filed from time to time with the SEC, including the company's latest annual report on Form 10-K, as well as our third quarter 10-Q once filed. Identiv assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to CEO Kirsten Newquist for her comments. Ms. Newquist, please proceed. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:01:42Thanks, Operator, and thank you all for joining our quarter three 2025 earnings call. As we review this quarter's results, I want to highlight that our Perform, Accelerate, and Transform strategy continues to guide everything we do, from serving our customers and building our pipeline to driving innovation and commercial momentum in our high-value segments and delivering on our financial commitments. This strategy remains central to transforming the organization and creating lasting value for our shareholders. I'm pleased to report that in quarter three, sales were in line with guidance, with all other key financial metrics exceeding expectations. This quarter is particularly notable for our improved gross profit margin, which reflects the initial benefits of completing our two-year transition of production from Singapore to our new state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in Thailand. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:02:43This is the first quarter in which all of our production has been done in Thailand, a significant milestone that has meaningfully lowered our cost structure, enhanced efficiency and scalability, and positioned us well for continued margin growth. We expect further margin expansion over the next few quarters as we complete the Singapore site shutdown by year-end and the Thailand team reaches full productivity. Our CFO, Ed Kirnbauer, will now provide a detailed review of our quarter three financial performance, and I'll return afterward to share more on how we're progressing across our strategic initiatives. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:03:25Thanks, Kirsten. In the third quarter of 2025, we delivered $5.0 million in revenue, which was within our previously announced guidance range, compared to $6.5 million in Q3 2024. This year-over-year decrease was as expected and due to lower sales as we exited lower margin business earlier in the year. Third quarter GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins were 10.7% and 19.1% respectively, compared to GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins of 3.6% and 9.3% respectively in Q3 2024. Factors impacting the increase in gross margin included the reduction in fixed manufacturing overhead costs and direct labor costs at our discontinued Singapore operation, improved utilization of our manufacturing production facility in Thailand, and sales of fully reserved inventory of $0.2 million. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:04:22As we mentioned in our August call, we completed production of RFID inlays and labels in Singapore and the requalification of our customers at our Thailand production facility end of Q2 2025. The facility shutdown activities in Singapore continue to progress as planned and are expected to be substantially completed by year-end. GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses third quarter of 2025, including research and development, sales and marketing, and general and administrative expenses, totaled $6.1 million and $4.5 million respectively, compared to $9.8 million and $5.1 million respectively in Q3 2024. The year-over-year decrease in GAAP operating expenses was driven primarily by a reduction in strategic review-related costs incurred in 2024. The decrease in non-GAAP operating expenses reflects management's targeted resource allocation to support the company's organic growth initiatives, as outlined in our PAT strategy framework. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:05:24Third quarter GAAP net loss from continuing operations was $3.5 million, or $0.15 per basic and diluted share, compared to GAAP net loss from continuing operations of $9.3 million, or $0.40 per basic and diluted share in the third quarter of 2024. This decrease in net loss was primarily due to strategic review-related costs of $3.6 million incurred in the third quarter of 2024, compared to $0.4 million in the third quarter of 2025, a higher year-over-year interest income of $1.1 million, and an income tax benefit of $0.8 million in the third quarter of 2025, compared to an income tax provision of $0.4 million in the comparable quarter of 2024. Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss for Q3 2025 was $3.6 million, compared to $4.5 million in the third quarter of 2024. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:06:21The decrease in the loss was primarily due to the reduction in fixed manufacturing costs at our Singapore facility, improved utilization of our manufacturing production facility in Thailand, as well as management's continued careful allocation of operating expenses as we execute on our PAT strategic initiatives. In the appendix of today's presentation, we have provided a full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial information, which is also included in our earnings release. Moving now to the balance sheet, we exited Q3 2025 with $126.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. In the third quarter of 2025, we used $3.1 million in cash. This brings our total net operating cash use for the 12 months following September 30, 2024, the end of Q3 2024, to $13.4 million, well within our previously announced guidance range of $13 million-$15 million. Our working capital exiting Q3 was $135.4 million. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:07:24Our balance sheet position remains strong. In our 10-Q filing, we will be providing a full reconciliation of year-to-date cash flows. For completeness, we have included the full balance sheet in the appendix of today's earnings release. Lastly, our financial outlook, which is based on current market conditions and expectations, including macroeconomic conditions and customer demand. As of today's call for Q4 2025, we currently expect net revenue in the range of $5.4 million-$5.9 million. This concludes the financial discussion. I'll now pass the call back to Kirsten. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:08:02Thanks, Ed. As you just heard, we delivered results that met or exceeded our guidance, a solid step forward as we continue executing against our perform, accelerate, and transform strategy. While we know there's more work ahead to reach our overall financial goals, we're encouraged by the tangible progress we're making. Across each pillar, performing with focus, accelerating across our high-value segments, and ultimately transforming our business, we're building a strong foundation for sustained and profitable growth. Let me now share how this progress is unfolding across our organization. Perform delivers exceptional results for customers and drives operational excellence. Our first pillar, perform, is focused on strengthening and growing our core channel business. To achieve this, we are prioritizing higher margin opportunities, extending gross margins through our Thailand transition, and executing our new product development, NPD, pipeline with greater discipline. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:09:11Our goal is to consistently exceed customer expectations through exceptional support, reliable performance, and on-time delivery. As I mentioned in my opening comments, we reached a major milestone in our manufacturing transformation this quarter. 100% of our RFID tags, inlays, and labels are now produced at our new state-of-the-art Thailand facility. The Singapore site shutdown is on track for completion by year-end, marking the end of a successful two-year transition. The Thailand facility has lowered manufacturing costs, improved efficiency, and enhanced scalability, laying a stronger foundation for continued margin growth. To further advance operational excellence, we launched CRM and MRP automation initiatives earlier this year to streamline key sales and operations planning processes. We've made steady progress and expect to have these systems largely implemented by year-end, strengthening our operational foundation and ensuring scalability as we grow. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:10:22On the commercial front, our new opportunity pipeline continues to expand, driven by new sales team members ramping up across our territories and channel partners. So far this year, we've converted 18% of our new opportunity pipeline, representing almost 10% of quarter three sales, with additional growth expected as this new business scales. Implementing HubSpot to enhance lead generation and visibility, and preparing to launch our new corporate website by year-end. We also launched in Germany and Label Expo in Barcelona, both generating meaningful customer engagement and reinforcing strategic partnerships. At Label Expo, our own VP of Business Development, Klaus Zimmermeyer, and Nerivero CEO, Thomas Rohding, shared insights on DPP compliance during a dynamic NFC RFID panel at the Smart Labeling Seminar 2025, further strengthening Identiv's position as an innovation leader. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:11:49Finally, the TSA transition with Vitaprotech is now substantially complete, and we are fully separated from the physical security business we sold one year ago, a key milestone marking our strategic focus and transition to being a pure play in IoT and RFID technologies. Accelerate, accelerate growth in high-value segments and through technology innovation. Moving to the second pillar of our PAT framework, accelerate, we are advancing three specific growth initiatives to build our pipeline and drive long-term revenue and margin expansion. One, expanding our BLE technology platform and multi-component manufacturing capabilities. Two, targeting growth in three healthcare high-value applications. And three, further driving growth in three consumer and logistics high-value applications. This quarter, we made notable progress in R&D and new product development, particularly in our Bluetooth Low Energy BLE programs. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:12:55BLE represents the next generation of IoT technology, offering real-time traceability and condition monitoring capabilities that are difficult to achieve with traditional RFID. We believe the technical complexity of BLE smart label design and manufacturability aligns well with our engineering expertise and gives us a clear competitive advantage. We successfully completed the first production runs of the IFCO BLE prototypes and Wiliot's next generation pixels, key milestones in the development and commercialization of two important customer-driven BLE programs. These achievements, along with the internal development of our BLE shipping label, expand our product portfolio and further strengthen our expertise in next generation RFID technology and multi-component manufacturing. We also formalized a partnership agreement and a manufacturing agreement with Wiliot to scale up and commercialize next generation pixels. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:14:01Wiliot Pixels are small, battery-free Bluetooth sensors powered by harvesting ambient radio frequency energy, enabling continuous transmission of data like temperature, motion, and location for smart supply chain and IoT applications. In healthcare innovation, our R&D work with Lilly was recently highlighted in a new white paper that we published in September, demonstrating our leadership in RFID innovation for drug adherence and delivery. This is a compelling example of how our technology is enabling smarter, safer patients' experiences. We're also advancing collaborations launched earlier this year, including our strategic partnerships with Navanta for medical device applications and Tag and Track for pharmaceutical cold chain management. Additionally, we announced the new commercial partnership with Tuk, bringing our secure NFC technology to children's books. Each book integrates seamlessly with Tuk's speaker through customizable NFC tags, activating guided audio without screens, Wi-Fi, or extra devices. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:15:12Designed for durability and security, this solution is built to scale across classrooms, libraries, and homes, empowering the next generation of young readers. These new interactive books are available for purchase now in Scandinavia, with expansion planned into the rest of Europe. We were also honored as a winner of the World Beverage Innovation Awards in 2025, together with our partners, Zetap by Collect ID and Genuine Analytics AG, for our NFC-powered smart packaging solution that safeguards luxury wine producers and collectors from counterfeiting. This recognition in the Best Technology Innovation category underscores our engineering excellence and collaborative approach to smart packaging. Finally, within our Accelerate initiatives, we completed detailed product roadmaps aligned with our high-value market segments, which is intended to ensure that our innovation and go-to-market efforts are tightly connected to customer needs and strategic priorities. Several of these NPD programs will begin in the next quarter. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:16:22Transform creates significant business expansion and capability growth through M&A for long-term success. Our third pillar, Transform, focuses on expanding the business through strategic M&A that accelerates EBITDA breakeven, broadens our product portfolio, and enhances our technical capabilities. We continue to work with our financial advisor, Raymond James, to assess our strategic alternatives. Metrics. This year, we began reporting several new metrics to monitor our progress against strategic objectives. We're continuing to refine these metrics and plan to establish formal targets in 2026. The quarter three results are for the first metric, new sales pipeline and conversion rate. This metric tracks the number of opportunities with new customers or customers we haven't sold to in over two years. At the end of quarter three, we had 118 new opportunities in our pipeline. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:17:26We added 46, closed 28, and converted 7 to sales, leading to a net increase of 18 over quarter two. We had 100 new opportunities in our pipeline at the end of quarter two and 75 in quarter one, showing a steady increase over time. So far this year, we have converted 18% of our new opportunities to sales. Second, NPD projects. This metric tracks the number of active NPD initiatives. These projects involve the development of entirely new RFID or BLE tags, inlays, or labels. As of the end of quarter three, there were 17 active NPD projects, 11 customer-driven and 6 internally driven. Four of the customer-driven projects target healthcare applications, and four utilize BLE technology, which represents the largest share of potential volume and steady-state revenue. Our third metric, NPD project completion. This metric captures the number of NPD projects completed within the quarter. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:18:38In quarter three, we completed three customer-driven projects, two of which are moving into commercialization. Both projects were for anti-counterfeiting initiatives in the high-end spirits and wine markets, which will be scaling up in 2026. In closing, this was a quarter of steady financial performance and meaningful operational milestones. We met or exceeded guidance, achieved 100% production of tags, inlays, and labels in Thailand, advanced key R&D and commercialization initiatives, and made continued progress across our perform, accelerate, and transform strategy. We reaffirm Identiv's commitment to advancing specialized IoT solutions, expanding our BLE capabilities, and fully leveraging the strategic advantages of our Thailand-based production. By continuing to execute against our perform, accelerate, and transform strategy, we believe we are well-positioned to capture future growth opportunities within the rapidly evolving global IoT market. As we look ahead, our priorities are clear. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:19:52Complete the Singapore site shutdown by year-end, ensure excellent service to our customers while driving productivity and efficiency in Thailand, execute our key new product development initiatives with excellence, expand our commercial and business development pipeline across high-value segments, and position the company for sustained growth and stronger financial performance in 2026 and beyond. I want to take a moment to thank our employees, customers, partners, and shareholders for their continued trust and support. We're encouraged by our progress, confident in our strategy, and excited about the opportunities ahead as we continue to lead in the fast-growing RFID and BLE markets. With that, I'd like to open the call for your questions. Operator, please open the question queue. Operator00:20:49Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Operator00:21:00A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Craig Ellis with B. Riley Financial. Please proceed. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:21:26Yeah, thank you for taking the question and nice job on the gross margins in the quarter. I wanted to start though on the top line. So for the fourth quarter, it looks like we're expecting sales up about 11%. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:21:40The question is, as we look across the different vectors of the business, whether it's channel or NPD conversion, what's driving the growth sequentially and what are some of the gives and takes as we think about tailwinds and headwinds as we exit the year? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:22:00Yeah, no, thank you. Let's see. Definitely, we are seeing some growth from our existing channel customers, but I do think we're also seeing some uptick that's related to some of our BLE projects that we're seeing some additional traction for in the fourth quarter. It's a nice combination of both kind of our perform customers as well as some of the accelerate initiatives that we're starting to see some traction quarter over quarter. Thanks, Kirsten. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:22:32Just speaking of BLE, in the prepared remarks, you talked about progress with IFCO and Wiliot. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:22:43Can we conclude that IFCO is on track for volume shipments in the second half of next year? And Wiliot had previously been talked about as a potential high-volume customer, certainly not the size of IFCO, but high volume. How do we think about what's possible with Wiliot next year? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:23:04Yeah, to start with the IFCO question, yes, we are making progress. Product development is well underway. As we mentioned, we shipped out production-made prototypes that are now being used in proof of concepts in the field. That, of course, a lot of learnings will come from that, and we'll take those learnings and use that to continue to optimize the design. That's progressing well. In terms of Wiliot, we've been working very hard over the last six months to qualify their next generation product. That's underway. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:23:45This quarter, and even last quarter, last quarter was beginning, and this quarter, we will be shipping those next generation products to the field. Both of them are nice opportunities. We're excited about both of them and working really hard to make sure that we can complete the development of the IFCO product and then really help to support all the different Wiliot customers as they look to commercialize the Wiliot solution. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:24:18Great, thank you. If I could sneak one in for Ed. Ed, real nice job by the team with gross margin in the third quarter, with the business getting the benefit of the full Singapore shutdown in the fourth quarter, and with higher revenues and with some of that coming from the higher quality revenue basket that the company's been prioritizing. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:24:47Can you talk a little bit about what we could expect for gross margins in the fourth quarter and if there are any headwinds we need to comprehend? Thank you. Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:24:55Thanks, Craig. Yes, our Q3 numbers, we saw significant benefits from the reduction in fixed costs with the discontinuance of our Singapore operations from both an overhead cost perspective and direct labor. Now, we expect that to continue. We will be substantially complete with all shutdown activities in Q4. We are still working through the remainder there. I do not really expect the full impact on gross margin until we enter Q1 of next year. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:25:39Okay. What about other potential benefits such as sales mix and the move to higher margin products as mix goes more towards NPD? Ed KirnbauerCFO at Identiv, Inc.00:25:58I'll let Kirsten talk about that, but I do want to say, in addition to that, we will continue to improve margins with improving the utilization of our Thailand facility. As far as mix? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:26:16Yeah, yeah. I think what we'll see in quarter four, certainly some slight increase in utilization in the Thailand plant that will help. As Ed mentioned, we aren't completely shut down, have shut down Singapore yet. We still have some labor that's getting that whole plant now back to its original state and shut down, etc. We have still a little bit of Singapore-related costs in quarter four. In terms of the mix, we definitely have some of our kind of NPD projects starting to ramp. Those are still a little bit in the ramp-up phase. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:26:51We still have a little bit of ramp-up costs until we get the full productivity of those projects. We do see kind of a slight increase in mix overall going into quarter four. Thanks, Kirsten. Thanks, Ed. Thank you. Okay, the next question comes from Anthony Sturse with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed. Good afternoon, Kirsten and team, and congrats on the move to Thailand getting it complete. Kirsten, of the roughly 21 opportunities that converted to customers, when will they show up in the P&L? If you could just ballpark guess, what percentage of those are above your 28% gross margin goal? Yeah, I think I'm not sure where you're getting the 21 conversion, but we did convert, we have roughly converted 18% year to date of our new opportunity pipelines. That represented in third quarter roughly 10% of our sales. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:27:52Those will definitely continue to scale and grow as we go into 2026. Yeah, no, we were happy to year-to-date, we've converted roughly 18% of our total new opportunity pipeline. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:28:04Roughly what percentage are at your 28% gross margin goal? Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:28:10Yeah, of the new opportunities that converted, I think roughly two-thirds of them were on the higher value side, so higher than 30% gross margin, and probably a third of them were slightly lower than that. Two-thirds of them were what we would consider on the high value side. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:28:33Got it. Good to hear. If you could frame the size of the new opportunity with Wiliot and also similar question, what kind of gross margins would you expect to generate? Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:28:46Yeah, so I mean, we're not talking about kind of ultimate sales volume potential with the Wiliot, and that's still progressing. Margins, the opportunity is large. We're scaling up the next generation. We definitely anticipate margins to be quite a bit significantly higher than where they were two years ago, but we're still working to increase those over the next probably three to four quarters. Definitely higher, much higher than where they were back in 2023 and early 2024. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:29:19Got it. The last question for me, Kirsten, with your background in this industry in the healthcare side. I know in quarters past, you've spoke a lot about your healthcare opportunities. Didn't hear a lot on this call. Maybe you can just refresh us where you stand and what you think the opportunity set is on the healthcare side. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:29:38Yeah, we certainly still see a nice opportunity in healthcare, and we see kind of the interest from some of the medical device and the pharmaceutical companies in really engaging in evaluating these types of solutions, but these are also longer-term opportunities. Of our current NPD new product development pipelines, I think roughly a third of them are healthcare-related. They just take longer to get to the commercialization side. We remain positive about the opportunity space. We remain positive about the projects that we have, but we definitely see some of the ones that are on the logistics side, the consumer product side, are getting to market faster than we do with some of the healthcare projects that we're working on. Craig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley Financial00:30:22Very good. Best of luck. Thank you. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:30:24Okay, thanks so much. Operator00:30:28We have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Kirsten for closing remarks. Kirsten NewquistCEO at Identiv, Inc.00:30:33Thanks, Operator. Thank you all again for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Have a good afternoon. Bye-bye. Operator00:30:43This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesKirsten NewquistCEOEd KirnbauerCFOAnalystsCraig A. EllisDirector of Research at B. Riley FinancialPowered by