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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast PLAYSTUDIOS EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.07Consensus EPS -$0.02Beat/MissMissed by -$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/APLAYSTUDIOS Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$57.65 millionExpected Revenue$58.77 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.12 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/APLAYSTUDIOS Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2025Date11/3/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, November 3, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by PLAYSTUDIOS Q3 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 3, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Negative Sentiment: Revenue and profitability declined materially: Q3 revenue was $57.6M (down ~19.1% YoY) and adjusted EBITDA fell to $7.2M (down ~50.5% YoY), and management now expects full‑year net revenue and adjusted EBITDA to come in below the low end of prior guidance. Negative Sentiment: User engagement has weakened: MAUs fell ~24.9% YoY and DAUs fell ~25.3% YoY (with the casual segment driving most of the declines), and management expects core social casino revenue to remain under pressure into Q4. Positive Sentiment: WinZone sweepstakes is gaining traction: the web‑based product is in open beta in 15 states with improving retention, engagement and monetization metrics, and the company plans a broader rollout to qualified jurisdictions by year‑end (though it notes regulatory contraction has reduced category TAM by ~25%). Positive Sentiment: Tetris Block Party shows early promise: open beta results on UA, retention and monetization are encouraging and a focused go‑to‑market test is launching ahead of a broader Q1 rollout, making it a key growth bet for 2026. Positive Sentiment: Cash, balance sheet and D2C progress provide optionality: the company finished Q3 with ~$106.3M cash, no debt and an undrawn $81M credit facility, while direct‑to‑consumer revenue grew to $7.7M (up 48% QoQ) and now represents 16.7% of in‑app purchase revenue. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallPLAYSTUDIOS Q3 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the PLAYSTUDIOS third quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Joel Ajina, General Counsel. Mr. Ajina, you may begin. Joel AgenaGeneral Counsel at PLAYSTUDIOS00:00:22Thank you. Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us for the PLAYSTUDIOS third quarter 2025 earnings call. With me on the call today are our Chairman and CEO, Andrew Pascal, and our CFO, Scott Peterson. During this call, we will make some forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations, but that are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expectations. Please refer to our SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of those risks. We will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. These should not be considered a substitute for measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release and SEC filings. With that, I'll turn it over to Andrew. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:01:10Thank you, Joel. Good afternoon, everyone. Before I focus on our specific performance for the quarter, I'd like to provide some context and perspective on our current operating environment. The past two years have been extremely challenging. Category headwinds have continued to pressure our core markets. Our valuation today sits only slightly above our cash position, and we know some investors are questioning our direction. As both the CEO and one of the company's larger shareholders, I understand these concerns, and I share the urgency to reposition the business. The board and leadership team are fully aligned in this effort. We're focused on reshaping the company with discipline, navigating the headwinds, further tightening our expense structure, and reorienting the business toward durable growth. Nothing is off the table as we work through this transition. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:01:58As you know, in Q4 of last year, we took meaningful actions to reduce our expenses and improve operating efficiency. These moves reduced our fixed cost base, but also came with trade-offs, particularly in our ability to sustain the same pace of new content, live operations, and product development, which contributed to continued softening across the portfolio. The benefits, however, enabled us to invest in a disciplined manner into our highest-conviction growth projects while preserving our profitability. While our reinvention initiatives created short-term savings, it's important to highlight that they did not solve the structural market-wide headwinds we continue to operate against. That's an important distinction. From a product standpoint, we've been very intentional about reconnecting with the principles that defined our early success: innovative and beautifully executed games, real-world loyalty benefits, and uncompromising player service. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:02:50As we expanded the portfolio over time and market conditions shifted, complexity increased, and our focus moved more toward monetization and promotional tactics. This often came at the expense of delivering a fun, dynamic, and carefully curated experience for many of our players. Through our reinvention work last year, we reaffirmed our commitment to quality, player value, and execution. Our approach to our growth initiatives reflects this renewed focus on these core principles. Let's briefly touch on some key updates, beginning with our sweepstakes effort. WinZone continues to gain traction, now live in open beta across 15 states and on pace for a broader rollout in all qualified jurisdictions before year-end. As we refine the product, we're seeing steady improvements across retention, engagement, and monetization, resulting in our highest returns on ad spend. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:03:39With a view towards our upcoming launch, we remain focused on improving this way of efficiency and long-term player value as well as the keys to driving scale. While the broader sweepstakes market is faced regulatory contraction, reducing the TAM by roughly 25%, growth in the remaining open states remains strong, and with an addressable market of $3.5 billion-$4 billion, we continue to believe the category represents a meaningful long-term opportunity. Our approach is intentionally phased. We started with a standalone web-based product to build capability, and over time, we'll evolve it into a fully integrated promotional engine supporting chip sales across our social casino portfolio, with selective strategic acquisitions as a potential accelerant. Let's now review our second growth opportunity, Tetris Block Party. Tetris Block Party is one of our most promising upcoming launches. Our thesis has always been that Tetris should be a super-scaled mobile franchise. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:04:34It's one of the most beloved games of all time, yet it hasn't fully realized that potential on mobile platforms. We're hoping to change that by pairing a familiar puzzle mechanic with a deeper social meta game built around competition, progression, and community. The game's been in open beta in select markets, and early performance across UA, retention, engagement, and monetization has been very encouraging. Based on those results, we're about to begin a focused go-to-market test ahead of a broader rollout in Q1. Turning to our play games core business, let's first look at the casino games. As I mentioned, the social casino category remains challenged, reflecting broader market conditions and ongoing shifts towards sweepstakes-style offerings. These trends contributed to year-over-year declines in both DAU and ARPDAU across most of our portfolio, with the exception of MyKonami, which continues to show double-digit year-over-year increases in ARPDAU. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:05:30That said, our direct-to-consumer business continues to show strong growth, benefiting from a full quarter of operations under the relaxed Apple policy changes. Direct-to-consumer revenue was $7.7 million, a 48% quarter-over-quarter increase, representing 16.7% of total in-app purchase revenue, up from 9.1% in Q3 of 2024. DAU for the casino segment remained stable sequentially, signaling a more resilient core player base. On the topic of our casual business, it continues to experience pressure on DAU, which accounted for most of our sequential audience decline. During the quarter, the team focused on enhancing the underlying technology of our ad monetization, improving efficiency, and yield. As a result, ARPDAU for both Brainium and Tetris Prime improved meaningfully year-over-year, offsetting some of the DAU declines and setting the stage for renewed user acquisition in 2026. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:06:27Our playAWARDS loyalty platform continues to be a core differentiator for our business, bridging in-game engagement with real-world entertainment. Over the past year, we streamlined the program to focus on higher-quality partners and more aspirational rewards, while also expanding the catalog of digital benefits like vanity items, customizations, and status-based perks that enhance progression inside the games. This resulted in a decrease in the retail value of rewards purchased year-over-year, but an increase of 16% sequentially for the third quarter. A highlight for the quarter is our MyVIP World Tournament of Slots, which started with in-app activations and social campaigns and culminated in a three-day live event in the Bahamas, where 500 top players competed for a million dollars and the title of World's Best Slot Player. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:07:15It's a clear proof point of how we connect play to real-world experiences in a way that builds deeper loyalty and longer-lasting relationships with our players. Before I turn the call over to Scott, I'd like to spotlight our emphasis on modernizing our development approach, particularly through the adoption of AI. Across our game development pipeline, creative tooling, UA modeling, and player targeting, AI is helping us move faster and operate more efficiently. We're still early in this journey, and we see meaningful long-term opportunities in how AI can reshape gameplay, production, and our live ops execution. With that, I'll hand it off to Scott. SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:07:52Thanks, Andrew. Good afternoon, everyone. Total revenue for the quarter was $57.6 million, down approximately 19.1% versus the third quarter of 2024, and down 2.7% sequentially, primarily reflecting a decline in DAU. Year-to-date revenue stands at $179.7 million, down 18.9% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $7.2 million, down 50.5% versus the third quarter of 2024, resulting in a 12.6% operating margin compared to 20.5%. Year-to-date adjusted EBITDA was $30.5 million, down approximately 31% year-over-year. This contraction reflects reduced revenue scale and an increase in investment for new growth projects, partially offset by cost savings from last year's reinvention program. Our MAU declined 24.9% versus last year's third quarter and down 5.4% sequentially, while DAU decreased 25.3% versus last year's third quarter and 5.8% sequentially. These declines were primarily concentrated in the casual segment, consistent with industry trends. SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:09:02We ended the quarter with approximately $106.3 million in cash, no debt, and access to a fully undrawn $81 million credit facility. Our liquidity position provides flexibility to pursue opportunities that can drive long-term shareholder value. Given the magnitude of the more recent softness in player activity and monetization, we now expect full-year results for both net revenue and consolidated adjusted EBITDA to fall below the low end of the previously provided guidance ranges. While near-term market conditions remain challenging, we continue to operate with discipline and focus on initiatives that we believe will strengthen our long-term competitive position. With that, I'll turn the call back to Andrew. SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:09:44Thanks, Scott. Looking ahead, our priority remains balancing disciplined investment with continued improvement in operating efficiency while advancing the initiatives that we believe can re-energize our growth over time. For now, we're staying close to fundamentals, delivering for our players, strengthening core product performance, and advancing towards the point where our newer initiatives can contribute meaningfully to our growth. We appreciate your continued support as we move forward with purpose in this dynamic market. Operator, let's open the call for questions. Operator00:10:18Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Ryan Seidal with Craig Hallam. Please proceed with your question. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:10:54Hey, good afternoon, Andrew, Scott. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:10:57Hey, Ryan. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:10:57Sweepstakes. You had the World Series of Slots. Last week, WinZone was promoted throughout that. I guess curious what feedback you got from those players that were in the World Series. As it relates to Sweepstakes, are those existing WinZone players or not, and kind of feedback there. Then how you think about kind of a bigger, broader-scale launch with the WinZone relative to kind of the state-by-state you have been going. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:11:25Thanks, Ryan. I don't, first of all, I think the feedback about WinZone has been generally positive. I think given the number of players that we had at the World Tournament of Slots and the subset of them that are actually in jurisdictions where it's available, it's a pretty small sample size. We wouldn't read too much into the feedback that we received on the WinZone specifically. With that said, we look more towards the actual data that we're generating from the players that are in the 15 markets where we're live today. As I alluded to during my opening comments, we're encouraged by the consistent improvement that we see across those metrics, whether it be retention or conversion rates to monetization and some of what we're seeing in terms of the monetization behavior. I think that, generally speaking, we're making good headway. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:12:22As I alluded to, we expect that we're going to open up more jurisdictions with the hope and expectation that by the end of the year, we'll be live in all of the available jurisdictions and in a position where we can start to then deploy more meaningful UA capital and start scaling up that part of the business. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:12:40Just as it relates to Sweepstakes, California put a ban. You never launched in California, but have you seen any benefit to your core social casino games in California following that ban? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:12:52Not yet. The ban goes into effect just after the first of the year. We are looking real close to see once it does, in fact, take root, whether we are going to see some lift and return to more traditional social play. Obviously, we will be doing a lot of targeted marketing where we are promoting our rewarded play alternative to the Sweeps promotional mechanic. We are curious and hopeful that we will actually enjoy some benefit within the core social portfolio, independent of what it means in terms of the reduction in the available market for Sweepstakes. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:13:33One more for me, and then I'll turn it over to the others. You mentioned kind of everything's on the table, kind of reevaluating the business, etc. Is that primarily an organic exercise, or are you looking at M&A or a combination of both? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:13:47It's both. I would say. Internally, the work that we're doing just to consistently look for and find ways to just operate more efficiently is just a never-ending exercise. We look at things that are incremental, and we look at things that are far more structural. As you know, we did a bunch of work starting in the fourth quarter last year. As we signaled, we expected that we would enjoy somewhere between $25 million and $30 million of cost savings or benefits on a normalized basis. Directionally, that's where we ended up. That was offset a bit by the continued erosion that we're seeing in revenue and the investments that we're making in these growth initiatives. That's why that didn't show up in our operating results just yet. We're looking for continued refinements just in the core business today. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:14:45The inorganic opportunities, we consistently look at where there might be companies that can accelerate our position. As we look at Sweepstakes and establishing a certain critical mass and momentum within that dimension of the free-to-play casino genre or things that we think are complementary to our playAWARDS offering and/or the casual portfolio that we have today. With that said, we're not in a position where anything has gotten any meaningful traction where we'd be ready to talk about it. Suffice to say, we're looking at all of those things. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:15:26Thanks, Andrew. Good luck. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:15:28Awesome. Thanks, Ryan. Operator00:15:31Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Lee with Macquarie. Please proceed with your question. Aaron LeeSenior Research Analyst at Macquarie Group Limited00:15:40Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question, guys. As we head into 2026, there's a lot of moving pieces between the core portfolio, Sweepstakes, and Tetris. How much visibility do you have into the business in 2026? Do you think by year-end you'll be in a position to guide to a Sweepstakes contribution? Thanks. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:16:02Yeah, thanks. It's a great question. We certainly hope so. I mean, it's difficult right now because, as you highlight, the business is very dynamic. The core of the business, the social casino core, has been contracting, and we're doing everything we can to stabilize it. We are investing in these new growth opportunities. We're at that place now. I just spoke to the fact that by the end of this year, we intend to be live in all of the domestic jurisdictions with Sweepstakes and start to invest in scaling and growing that business. Hopefully, we'll be in a position where the go-forward performance is a bit more predictable. We'll obviously speak to that on our next call. Our Tetris Block Party initiative, which is really the primary initiative that we're focused on in terms of really capitalizing on the Tetris rights and franchise that we have. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:16:57We certainly hope that by the end of this year, we'll also have the kind of validation that'll give us more confidence and visibility into its contributions next year. On that point, we're in the cycle right now of a primary marketing test in a key market, where it's really going to help to inform our strategy and thinking as we approach the new year and scaling that product. I would say along both Sweeps and the Tetris Block Party dimensions, we're hoping to have more visibility and be able to predict more clearly what their contributions will be next year. Aaron LeeSenior Research Analyst at Macquarie Group Limited00:17:34Gotcha. That's helpful. Then on Sweeps, you mentioned you'll be in the full range of jurisdictions by the end of the year. I guess once you're there, is that when you will start leaning more into marketing, or is there anything else you would have to see before you kind of get into the full launch? Thank you. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:17:52Yeah, thanks. Our practice is we're going to open up all the jurisdictions. We'll then start to deploy a modest amount of marketing capital so that we can generate the kind of cohorts and users to get a clear read on what then are the overall cost of acquisition and are the metrics continuing to hold up or improve. Assuming that they are, we'll go ahead and start deploying more meaningful capital and scaling up that business. That's our intention. Aaron LeeSenior Research Analyst at Macquarie Group Limited00:18:25All right. Sounds good. Thank you for the call there. Good luck. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:18:27Awesome. All right. Thanks, Aaron. Operator00:18:31Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Hickey with Benchmark. Please proceed with your question. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:18:42Hey, Andrew. Thanks for taking our questions. Just three from us. I'll keep it light for you, Andrew. The first one. You took down your numbers for 2025 on revenue and EBITDA. You've only got one quarter left, and you're one month through. Can you help us sort of size the magnitude of the reduction here? Maybe the best way to do it is if you can give us any color on sequential growth in Q4 from revenue or not. Maybe there's a better way to approach it, but that seems maybe the easiest. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:19:23Okay. Scott, you want to take that? SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:19:27Sure. I mean, look. As Andrew kind of mentioned in terms of some of our new launches, we're hoping that we'll be able to get more clarity as we get in the middle of this quarter and perhaps step on the gas if the metrics are there. Other than that, that's one of the reasons why we didn't get specific. The trends that we saw in third quarter are sort of continuing, at least through now. That's kind of the way you should be looking at it. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:20:02Okay, Scott. So just to clarify, if you take out new launches where you're hopeful, obviously, but it's problematic in terms of modeling, then we should expect from your core business a sequential decline in Q4 revenue from Q3? SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:20:20Yes. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:20:22Okay. Andrew, just curious, what are the best ways you think to sort of stop the decay in social casino? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:20:32Look, I think it's challenging. And if you really look at the category overall and all the participants in it, the declines obviously aren't specific to us. You'll see that a lot of the scaled operators are seeing declines as well. Ours are a bit more exaggerated. I think that, and there's a small collection of us that are seeing the kinds of both DAU declines and revenue declines that are consistent or a bit worse than ours. I would argue that all those companies, and maybe I should just speak for us, have a pretty high concentration of play in North America. This dynamic of our losing players and play to the alternatives, Sweepstakes notably, is just very real. What we're hopeful of is two things. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:21:29As we open up and start to make it known that we have a Sweepstakes alternative, then we can keep people within our ecosystem as opposed to losing them altogether. Hopefully, that'll be somewhat stabilizing. Secondarily, as markets fall out, like California, which is a primary and very significant market for us with our traditional social casino games because of the loyalty program and the dominance that Las Vegas-based rewards has, making the benefits that much more accessible to people that are in the Southwest region, we think that hopefully we'll see some stability and recovery in terms of players and performance that are in that region. That still needs to be proven out. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:22:20I think that we're kind of positioning ourselves so that we've got a bit of a hedge as Sweepstakes continues to grow within the markets where it is still active and over time becomes legal and legitimized. We'll be prepared and ready to take advantage of and exploit that opportunity. In the markets where it's not, then we'll be able to leverage our more traditional social casino products with a rewarded play alternative to Sweepstakes to go reclaim and recapture some of that market share that we've lost. We appreciate that that's what we have to prove out, but we're hopeful that that's the opportunity ahead of us. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:23:02Thanks, Andrew. Last one from us. Obviously, Sweeps is a really compelling catalyst. Hopefully a driver for you. You also made the point you're basically trading for your cash value here. Under that context, you look at states where Sweeps are active and not going to be shut down. A lot of these states are being viewed as potential, or Sweeps in these states are being viewed as a potential catalyst for iGaming legalization. I think a similar view would be on how prediction markets in non-regulated states could be a catalyst for OSB legalization. Do you think, assuming that's true, which I think is at least logical, do you think there are strategic opportunities for you or strategic alternatives for you to partner or otherwise with iGaming operators? Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:24:06Given that you're launching your Sweeps products, you're going to be building a database and your inherent value to an iGaming operator, if in fact it does unlock legalization, could be very high. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:24:21Yeah. I mean, I think. The truth of it is we've got a fairly significant footprint of players across and throughout the U.S. Independent of the active MAU and DAU that we have in our network today, we have a very substantial database that we can market to tens of millions of players and reactivate with new propositions, new forms of casino-style games, whether it's iGaming or whether it's Sweepstakes gaming or whether it's the casual and more traditional social gaming. I do think that there's optionality for us in resolving how best to take advantage of those assets in these markets. What we hope is that some form of Sweepstakes is going to survive over the course of the next few years. There will be undoubtedly more jurisdictions that fall out. I think that's likely. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:25:27There'll be some jurisdictions that, as you point out, ultimately flip to being more fully regulated with a collection of iGaming providers, which likely positions the existing iGaming providers as having some advantage. We also think that there'll be some form of oversight and regulation and taxation potentially of the Sweepstakes market or business. That, to me, feels like a very real opportunity for most of the states where this activity is being conducted today, that it can, in fact, be legitimized and it can be regulated to the degree that allows them to take advantage of the sizable active market that exists right now, as opposed to going through an exercise of restricting, limiting it, and then putting in place the iGaming kind of regulatory infrastructure so that the providers can then be vetted and services launched and then go through the cycle of scaling those up. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:26:39We think that maybe the short answer is that yes, that optionality is available to us. We think that there's a lot of different ways to exploit it, whether it's being direct providers within those markets or whether it's strategically partnering up with iGaming providers to those markets or leveraging our content and providing it to the participants in those markets. That's a big part of the traditional Sweepstakes business today. A lot of the game content, most of it, is provided by these third-party slot content providers and producers. As part of our building our own Sweepstakes solution, we've built our own RGS platform that allows us to remotely serve our slot content into our game for our benefit, which should also have a gross margin benefit. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:27:30At some point in the future, we retain the option of making that same content available to any other providers that are in the market. I hope I answered your question. I think that there's a lot of opportunity for us to exploit our assets in these markets as we get clear as to how they shake out. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:27:51Thanks, Andrew. We agree. Thank you. Good luck. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:27:54Awesome. Thank you, Mike. Operator00:27:58Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Martin Yang with Oppenheimer & Company. Please proceed with your question. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:28:06Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I want to ask about your B2C effort. It seems to be consistently improving. Anything you could call out this quarter regarding what is driving that sequential growth and whether or not you have implemented maybe new channels, new partners to continue to improve your D2C revenue percentage? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:28:29Yeah. Thank you, Martin. I think, first of all, the most fundamental thing is that we're merchandising it far more effectively within our apps. With the more relaxed policies, it allows us to do that. It's easier for our players to launch the off-platform store and transact and then get back into the game and their cycle of play. Reducing that friction and improving the monetization has been the primary driver of the growth that we're enjoying. It's continuing to improve, which is great to see. With that said, there's a number of additional things that we're doing to more effectively merchandise, promote, tailor specific offers that should drive even more exposure and participation in the kind of off-platform store. We hope that this trend will continue and account for an ever bigger part of our overall complementary revenue. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:29:32Got it. And then relating to gross margin, for example, this quarter, when you think about the relationship between your D2C revenue percentage and the gross margin expansion, is this a somewhat linear relationship that we could expect to go on a go-forward basis? And how would a ramp-up on your sweepstakes games come to affect gross margin beyond the next quarter or two? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:30:07I think it's a great question. I mean, maybe invite Scott to weigh in and answer. I think the short answer, I'll be curious to hear what he says, is that it's difficult to forecast. Because we are certainly expecting that the complement of our direct-to-consumer revenue to improve. We're seeing that trend continue into the fourth quarter. We are going to be launching things like Sweepstakes, which inherently is a web-based solution, and all that revenue we book ourselves. As far as how the countervailing things that are going to happen that might affect gross margins, I don't know. I'll invite Scott to speak to that at this point, whether that's even something we can maybe answer and provide a bit more clarity around. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:30:57Yeah. I mean. Thanks, Andrew. I mean, you're right. Look. We've been working the last few quarters and forever about increasing our D2C revenue. And so we're thrilled that it's coming to fruition. I wouldn't say it's linear. The way, Dean, do you want to add how we forecast it or how we do it? SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:31:24Yeah. I think it also includes some things. It's not quite done. In that sense that there's ad monetization that affects that % if you're just looking at the overall %. We do expect it to continue to drop, but not quite linearly as you might imply. As well as I think as. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:31:48Go ahead. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:31:49Let me summarize what I'm hearing, and then we can ask Martin if we've answered this question. The things that are going to improve margins are more direct-to-consumer revenue. The Sweepstakes business, as it scales and grows, assuming that the redemptions net of revenue normalize and are in line with where everybody else is. The complement of ad-based revenue that we generate relative to our past experience, those are things that should drive improved margins. Those are all things that we're obviously intensely focused on scaling and growing. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:32:39That's it for me. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you, Scott. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:32:41Okay. Okay, Martin. Thanks. Operator00:32:45Thank you. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. This does conclude today's conference, and we may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation. 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Email Address About PLAYSTUDIOSPLAYSTUDIOS (NASDAQ:MYPS), traded on NASDAQ as MYPS, is a digital entertainment company that develops free-to-play mobile and social casino games. Its flagship titles include POP! Slots, myVEGAS Slots and my KONAMI Slots, which combine classic casino mechanics with branded content and a proprietary loyalty program. Through the MyPLAY system, players earn virtual currency and loyalty points redeemable for real-world rewards, including hotel stays, dining and entertainment vouchers at partner venues. Founded in 2011 and headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada, PLAYSTUDIOS was co-founded by industry veteran Andrew Pascal, who serves as its Chief Executive Officer. Pascal previously held leadership roles in the casino and online gaming sectors, bringing experience from major operators and technology firms. In January 2021, the company completed a business combination with a special purpose acquisition company, marking its transition to a publicly traded entity. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the PLAYSTUDIOS third quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Joel Ajina, General Counsel. Mr. Ajina, you may begin. Joel AgenaGeneral Counsel at PLAYSTUDIOS00:00:22Thank you. Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us for the PLAYSTUDIOS third quarter 2025 earnings call. With me on the call today are our Chairman and CEO, Andrew Pascal, and our CFO, Scott Peterson. During this call, we will make some forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations, but that are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expectations. Please refer to our SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of those risks. We will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. These should not be considered a substitute for measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release and SEC filings. With that, I'll turn it over to Andrew. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:01:10Thank you, Joel. Good afternoon, everyone. Before I focus on our specific performance for the quarter, I'd like to provide some context and perspective on our current operating environment. The past two years have been extremely challenging. Category headwinds have continued to pressure our core markets. Our valuation today sits only slightly above our cash position, and we know some investors are questioning our direction. As both the CEO and one of the company's larger shareholders, I understand these concerns, and I share the urgency to reposition the business. The board and leadership team are fully aligned in this effort. We're focused on reshaping the company with discipline, navigating the headwinds, further tightening our expense structure, and reorienting the business toward durable growth. Nothing is off the table as we work through this transition. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:01:58As you know, in Q4 of last year, we took meaningful actions to reduce our expenses and improve operating efficiency. These moves reduced our fixed cost base, but also came with trade-offs, particularly in our ability to sustain the same pace of new content, live operations, and product development, which contributed to continued softening across the portfolio. The benefits, however, enabled us to invest in a disciplined manner into our highest-conviction growth projects while preserving our profitability. While our reinvention initiatives created short-term savings, it's important to highlight that they did not solve the structural market-wide headwinds we continue to operate against. That's an important distinction. From a product standpoint, we've been very intentional about reconnecting with the principles that defined our early success: innovative and beautifully executed games, real-world loyalty benefits, and uncompromising player service. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:02:50As we expanded the portfolio over time and market conditions shifted, complexity increased, and our focus moved more toward monetization and promotional tactics. This often came at the expense of delivering a fun, dynamic, and carefully curated experience for many of our players. Through our reinvention work last year, we reaffirmed our commitment to quality, player value, and execution. Our approach to our growth initiatives reflects this renewed focus on these core principles. Let's briefly touch on some key updates, beginning with our sweepstakes effort. WinZone continues to gain traction, now live in open beta across 15 states and on pace for a broader rollout in all qualified jurisdictions before year-end. As we refine the product, we're seeing steady improvements across retention, engagement, and monetization, resulting in our highest returns on ad spend. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:03:39With a view towards our upcoming launch, we remain focused on improving this way of efficiency and long-term player value as well as the keys to driving scale. While the broader sweepstakes market is faced regulatory contraction, reducing the TAM by roughly 25%, growth in the remaining open states remains strong, and with an addressable market of $3.5 billion-$4 billion, we continue to believe the category represents a meaningful long-term opportunity. Our approach is intentionally phased. We started with a standalone web-based product to build capability, and over time, we'll evolve it into a fully integrated promotional engine supporting chip sales across our social casino portfolio, with selective strategic acquisitions as a potential accelerant. Let's now review our second growth opportunity, Tetris Block Party. Tetris Block Party is one of our most promising upcoming launches. Our thesis has always been that Tetris should be a super-scaled mobile franchise. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:04:34It's one of the most beloved games of all time, yet it hasn't fully realized that potential on mobile platforms. We're hoping to change that by pairing a familiar puzzle mechanic with a deeper social meta game built around competition, progression, and community. The game's been in open beta in select markets, and early performance across UA, retention, engagement, and monetization has been very encouraging. Based on those results, we're about to begin a focused go-to-market test ahead of a broader rollout in Q1. Turning to our play games core business, let's first look at the casino games. As I mentioned, the social casino category remains challenged, reflecting broader market conditions and ongoing shifts towards sweepstakes-style offerings. These trends contributed to year-over-year declines in both DAU and ARPDAU across most of our portfolio, with the exception of MyKonami, which continues to show double-digit year-over-year increases in ARPDAU. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:05:30That said, our direct-to-consumer business continues to show strong growth, benefiting from a full quarter of operations under the relaxed Apple policy changes. Direct-to-consumer revenue was $7.7 million, a 48% quarter-over-quarter increase, representing 16.7% of total in-app purchase revenue, up from 9.1% in Q3 of 2024. DAU for the casino segment remained stable sequentially, signaling a more resilient core player base. On the topic of our casual business, it continues to experience pressure on DAU, which accounted for most of our sequential audience decline. During the quarter, the team focused on enhancing the underlying technology of our ad monetization, improving efficiency, and yield. As a result, ARPDAU for both Brainium and Tetris Prime improved meaningfully year-over-year, offsetting some of the DAU declines and setting the stage for renewed user acquisition in 2026. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:06:27Our playAWARDS loyalty platform continues to be a core differentiator for our business, bridging in-game engagement with real-world entertainment. Over the past year, we streamlined the program to focus on higher-quality partners and more aspirational rewards, while also expanding the catalog of digital benefits like vanity items, customizations, and status-based perks that enhance progression inside the games. This resulted in a decrease in the retail value of rewards purchased year-over-year, but an increase of 16% sequentially for the third quarter. A highlight for the quarter is our MyVIP World Tournament of Slots, which started with in-app activations and social campaigns and culminated in a three-day live event in the Bahamas, where 500 top players competed for a million dollars and the title of World's Best Slot Player. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:07:15It's a clear proof point of how we connect play to real-world experiences in a way that builds deeper loyalty and longer-lasting relationships with our players. Before I turn the call over to Scott, I'd like to spotlight our emphasis on modernizing our development approach, particularly through the adoption of AI. Across our game development pipeline, creative tooling, UA modeling, and player targeting, AI is helping us move faster and operate more efficiently. We're still early in this journey, and we see meaningful long-term opportunities in how AI can reshape gameplay, production, and our live ops execution. With that, I'll hand it off to Scott. SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:07:52Thanks, Andrew. Good afternoon, everyone. Total revenue for the quarter was $57.6 million, down approximately 19.1% versus the third quarter of 2024, and down 2.7% sequentially, primarily reflecting a decline in DAU. Year-to-date revenue stands at $179.7 million, down 18.9% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $7.2 million, down 50.5% versus the third quarter of 2024, resulting in a 12.6% operating margin compared to 20.5%. Year-to-date adjusted EBITDA was $30.5 million, down approximately 31% year-over-year. This contraction reflects reduced revenue scale and an increase in investment for new growth projects, partially offset by cost savings from last year's reinvention program. Our MAU declined 24.9% versus last year's third quarter and down 5.4% sequentially, while DAU decreased 25.3% versus last year's third quarter and 5.8% sequentially. These declines were primarily concentrated in the casual segment, consistent with industry trends. SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:09:02We ended the quarter with approximately $106.3 million in cash, no debt, and access to a fully undrawn $81 million credit facility. Our liquidity position provides flexibility to pursue opportunities that can drive long-term shareholder value. Given the magnitude of the more recent softness in player activity and monetization, we now expect full-year results for both net revenue and consolidated adjusted EBITDA to fall below the low end of the previously provided guidance ranges. While near-term market conditions remain challenging, we continue to operate with discipline and focus on initiatives that we believe will strengthen our long-term competitive position. With that, I'll turn the call back to Andrew. SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:09:44Thanks, Scott. Looking ahead, our priority remains balancing disciplined investment with continued improvement in operating efficiency while advancing the initiatives that we believe can re-energize our growth over time. For now, we're staying close to fundamentals, delivering for our players, strengthening core product performance, and advancing towards the point where our newer initiatives can contribute meaningfully to our growth. We appreciate your continued support as we move forward with purpose in this dynamic market. Operator, let's open the call for questions. Operator00:10:18Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the Star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Ryan Seidal with Craig Hallam. Please proceed with your question. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:10:54Hey, good afternoon, Andrew, Scott. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:10:57Hey, Ryan. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:10:57Sweepstakes. You had the World Series of Slots. Last week, WinZone was promoted throughout that. I guess curious what feedback you got from those players that were in the World Series. As it relates to Sweepstakes, are those existing WinZone players or not, and kind of feedback there. Then how you think about kind of a bigger, broader-scale launch with the WinZone relative to kind of the state-by-state you have been going. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:11:25Thanks, Ryan. I don't, first of all, I think the feedback about WinZone has been generally positive. I think given the number of players that we had at the World Tournament of Slots and the subset of them that are actually in jurisdictions where it's available, it's a pretty small sample size. We wouldn't read too much into the feedback that we received on the WinZone specifically. With that said, we look more towards the actual data that we're generating from the players that are in the 15 markets where we're live today. As I alluded to during my opening comments, we're encouraged by the consistent improvement that we see across those metrics, whether it be retention or conversion rates to monetization and some of what we're seeing in terms of the monetization behavior. I think that, generally speaking, we're making good headway. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:12:22As I alluded to, we expect that we're going to open up more jurisdictions with the hope and expectation that by the end of the year, we'll be live in all of the available jurisdictions and in a position where we can start to then deploy more meaningful UA capital and start scaling up that part of the business. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:12:40Just as it relates to Sweepstakes, California put a ban. You never launched in California, but have you seen any benefit to your core social casino games in California following that ban? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:12:52Not yet. The ban goes into effect just after the first of the year. We are looking real close to see once it does, in fact, take root, whether we are going to see some lift and return to more traditional social play. Obviously, we will be doing a lot of targeted marketing where we are promoting our rewarded play alternative to the Sweeps promotional mechanic. We are curious and hopeful that we will actually enjoy some benefit within the core social portfolio, independent of what it means in terms of the reduction in the available market for Sweepstakes. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:13:33One more for me, and then I'll turn it over to the others. You mentioned kind of everything's on the table, kind of reevaluating the business, etc. Is that primarily an organic exercise, or are you looking at M&A or a combination of both? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:13:47It's both. I would say. Internally, the work that we're doing just to consistently look for and find ways to just operate more efficiently is just a never-ending exercise. We look at things that are incremental, and we look at things that are far more structural. As you know, we did a bunch of work starting in the fourth quarter last year. As we signaled, we expected that we would enjoy somewhere between $25 million and $30 million of cost savings or benefits on a normalized basis. Directionally, that's where we ended up. That was offset a bit by the continued erosion that we're seeing in revenue and the investments that we're making in these growth initiatives. That's why that didn't show up in our operating results just yet. We're looking for continued refinements just in the core business today. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:14:45The inorganic opportunities, we consistently look at where there might be companies that can accelerate our position. As we look at Sweepstakes and establishing a certain critical mass and momentum within that dimension of the free-to-play casino genre or things that we think are complementary to our playAWARDS offering and/or the casual portfolio that we have today. With that said, we're not in a position where anything has gotten any meaningful traction where we'd be ready to talk about it. Suffice to say, we're looking at all of those things. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:15:26Thanks, Andrew. Good luck. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:15:28Awesome. Thanks, Ryan. Operator00:15:31Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Lee with Macquarie. Please proceed with your question. Aaron LeeSenior Research Analyst at Macquarie Group Limited00:15:40Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question, guys. As we head into 2026, there's a lot of moving pieces between the core portfolio, Sweepstakes, and Tetris. How much visibility do you have into the business in 2026? Do you think by year-end you'll be in a position to guide to a Sweepstakes contribution? Thanks. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:16:02Yeah, thanks. It's a great question. We certainly hope so. I mean, it's difficult right now because, as you highlight, the business is very dynamic. The core of the business, the social casino core, has been contracting, and we're doing everything we can to stabilize it. We are investing in these new growth opportunities. We're at that place now. I just spoke to the fact that by the end of this year, we intend to be live in all of the domestic jurisdictions with Sweepstakes and start to invest in scaling and growing that business. Hopefully, we'll be in a position where the go-forward performance is a bit more predictable. We'll obviously speak to that on our next call. Our Tetris Block Party initiative, which is really the primary initiative that we're focused on in terms of really capitalizing on the Tetris rights and franchise that we have. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:16:57We certainly hope that by the end of this year, we'll also have the kind of validation that'll give us more confidence and visibility into its contributions next year. On that point, we're in the cycle right now of a primary marketing test in a key market, where it's really going to help to inform our strategy and thinking as we approach the new year and scaling that product. I would say along both Sweeps and the Tetris Block Party dimensions, we're hoping to have more visibility and be able to predict more clearly what their contributions will be next year. Aaron LeeSenior Research Analyst at Macquarie Group Limited00:17:34Gotcha. That's helpful. Then on Sweeps, you mentioned you'll be in the full range of jurisdictions by the end of the year. I guess once you're there, is that when you will start leaning more into marketing, or is there anything else you would have to see before you kind of get into the full launch? Thank you. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:17:52Yeah, thanks. Our practice is we're going to open up all the jurisdictions. We'll then start to deploy a modest amount of marketing capital so that we can generate the kind of cohorts and users to get a clear read on what then are the overall cost of acquisition and are the metrics continuing to hold up or improve. Assuming that they are, we'll go ahead and start deploying more meaningful capital and scaling up that business. That's our intention. Aaron LeeSenior Research Analyst at Macquarie Group Limited00:18:25All right. Sounds good. Thank you for the call there. Good luck. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:18:27Awesome. All right. Thanks, Aaron. Operator00:18:31Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Hickey with Benchmark. Please proceed with your question. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:18:42Hey, Andrew. Thanks for taking our questions. Just three from us. I'll keep it light for you, Andrew. The first one. You took down your numbers for 2025 on revenue and EBITDA. You've only got one quarter left, and you're one month through. Can you help us sort of size the magnitude of the reduction here? Maybe the best way to do it is if you can give us any color on sequential growth in Q4 from revenue or not. Maybe there's a better way to approach it, but that seems maybe the easiest. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:19:23Okay. Scott, you want to take that? SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:19:27Sure. I mean, look. As Andrew kind of mentioned in terms of some of our new launches, we're hoping that we'll be able to get more clarity as we get in the middle of this quarter and perhaps step on the gas if the metrics are there. Other than that, that's one of the reasons why we didn't get specific. The trends that we saw in third quarter are sort of continuing, at least through now. That's kind of the way you should be looking at it. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:20:02Okay, Scott. So just to clarify, if you take out new launches where you're hopeful, obviously, but it's problematic in terms of modeling, then we should expect from your core business a sequential decline in Q4 revenue from Q3? SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:20:20Yes. Ryan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLC00:20:22Okay. Andrew, just curious, what are the best ways you think to sort of stop the decay in social casino? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:20:32Look, I think it's challenging. And if you really look at the category overall and all the participants in it, the declines obviously aren't specific to us. You'll see that a lot of the scaled operators are seeing declines as well. Ours are a bit more exaggerated. I think that, and there's a small collection of us that are seeing the kinds of both DAU declines and revenue declines that are consistent or a bit worse than ours. I would argue that all those companies, and maybe I should just speak for us, have a pretty high concentration of play in North America. This dynamic of our losing players and play to the alternatives, Sweepstakes notably, is just very real. What we're hopeful of is two things. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:21:29As we open up and start to make it known that we have a Sweepstakes alternative, then we can keep people within our ecosystem as opposed to losing them altogether. Hopefully, that'll be somewhat stabilizing. Secondarily, as markets fall out, like California, which is a primary and very significant market for us with our traditional social casino games because of the loyalty program and the dominance that Las Vegas-based rewards has, making the benefits that much more accessible to people that are in the Southwest region, we think that hopefully we'll see some stability and recovery in terms of players and performance that are in that region. That still needs to be proven out. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:22:20I think that we're kind of positioning ourselves so that we've got a bit of a hedge as Sweepstakes continues to grow within the markets where it is still active and over time becomes legal and legitimized. We'll be prepared and ready to take advantage of and exploit that opportunity. In the markets where it's not, then we'll be able to leverage our more traditional social casino products with a rewarded play alternative to Sweepstakes to go reclaim and recapture some of that market share that we've lost. We appreciate that that's what we have to prove out, but we're hopeful that that's the opportunity ahead of us. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:23:02Thanks, Andrew. Last one from us. Obviously, Sweeps is a really compelling catalyst. Hopefully a driver for you. You also made the point you're basically trading for your cash value here. Under that context, you look at states where Sweeps are active and not going to be shut down. A lot of these states are being viewed as potential, or Sweeps in these states are being viewed as a potential catalyst for iGaming legalization. I think a similar view would be on how prediction markets in non-regulated states could be a catalyst for OSB legalization. Do you think, assuming that's true, which I think is at least logical, do you think there are strategic opportunities for you or strategic alternatives for you to partner or otherwise with iGaming operators? Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:24:06Given that you're launching your Sweeps products, you're going to be building a database and your inherent value to an iGaming operator, if in fact it does unlock legalization, could be very high. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:24:21Yeah. I mean, I think. The truth of it is we've got a fairly significant footprint of players across and throughout the U.S. Independent of the active MAU and DAU that we have in our network today, we have a very substantial database that we can market to tens of millions of players and reactivate with new propositions, new forms of casino-style games, whether it's iGaming or whether it's Sweepstakes gaming or whether it's the casual and more traditional social gaming. I do think that there's optionality for us in resolving how best to take advantage of those assets in these markets. What we hope is that some form of Sweepstakes is going to survive over the course of the next few years. There will be undoubtedly more jurisdictions that fall out. I think that's likely. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:25:27There'll be some jurisdictions that, as you point out, ultimately flip to being more fully regulated with a collection of iGaming providers, which likely positions the existing iGaming providers as having some advantage. We also think that there'll be some form of oversight and regulation and taxation potentially of the Sweepstakes market or business. That, to me, feels like a very real opportunity for most of the states where this activity is being conducted today, that it can, in fact, be legitimized and it can be regulated to the degree that allows them to take advantage of the sizable active market that exists right now, as opposed to going through an exercise of restricting, limiting it, and then putting in place the iGaming kind of regulatory infrastructure so that the providers can then be vetted and services launched and then go through the cycle of scaling those up. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:26:39We think that maybe the short answer is that yes, that optionality is available to us. We think that there's a lot of different ways to exploit it, whether it's being direct providers within those markets or whether it's strategically partnering up with iGaming providers to those markets or leveraging our content and providing it to the participants in those markets. That's a big part of the traditional Sweepstakes business today. A lot of the game content, most of it, is provided by these third-party slot content providers and producers. As part of our building our own Sweepstakes solution, we've built our own RGS platform that allows us to remotely serve our slot content into our game for our benefit, which should also have a gross margin benefit. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:27:30At some point in the future, we retain the option of making that same content available to any other providers that are in the market. I hope I answered your question. I think that there's a lot of opportunity for us to exploit our assets in these markets as we get clear as to how they shake out. Mike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLC00:27:51Thanks, Andrew. We agree. Thank you. Good luck. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:27:54Awesome. Thank you, Mike. Operator00:27:58Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Martin Yang with Oppenheimer & Company. Please proceed with your question. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:28:06Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I want to ask about your B2C effort. It seems to be consistently improving. Anything you could call out this quarter regarding what is driving that sequential growth and whether or not you have implemented maybe new channels, new partners to continue to improve your D2C revenue percentage? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:28:29Yeah. Thank you, Martin. I think, first of all, the most fundamental thing is that we're merchandising it far more effectively within our apps. With the more relaxed policies, it allows us to do that. It's easier for our players to launch the off-platform store and transact and then get back into the game and their cycle of play. Reducing that friction and improving the monetization has been the primary driver of the growth that we're enjoying. It's continuing to improve, which is great to see. With that said, there's a number of additional things that we're doing to more effectively merchandise, promote, tailor specific offers that should drive even more exposure and participation in the kind of off-platform store. We hope that this trend will continue and account for an ever bigger part of our overall complementary revenue. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:29:32Got it. And then relating to gross margin, for example, this quarter, when you think about the relationship between your D2C revenue percentage and the gross margin expansion, is this a somewhat linear relationship that we could expect to go on a go-forward basis? And how would a ramp-up on your sweepstakes games come to affect gross margin beyond the next quarter or two? Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:30:07I think it's a great question. I mean, maybe invite Scott to weigh in and answer. I think the short answer, I'll be curious to hear what he says, is that it's difficult to forecast. Because we are certainly expecting that the complement of our direct-to-consumer revenue to improve. We're seeing that trend continue into the fourth quarter. We are going to be launching things like Sweepstakes, which inherently is a web-based solution, and all that revenue we book ourselves. As far as how the countervailing things that are going to happen that might affect gross margins, I don't know. I'll invite Scott to speak to that at this point, whether that's even something we can maybe answer and provide a bit more clarity around. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:30:57Yeah. I mean. Thanks, Andrew. I mean, you're right. Look. We've been working the last few quarters and forever about increasing our D2C revenue. And so we're thrilled that it's coming to fruition. I wouldn't say it's linear. The way, Dean, do you want to add how we forecast it or how we do it? SCOTT PETERSONCFO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:31:24Yeah. I think it also includes some things. It's not quite done. In that sense that there's ad monetization that affects that % if you're just looking at the overall %. We do expect it to continue to drop, but not quite linearly as you might imply. As well as I think as. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:31:48Go ahead. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:31:49Let me summarize what I'm hearing, and then we can ask Martin if we've answered this question. The things that are going to improve margins are more direct-to-consumer revenue. The Sweepstakes business, as it scales and grows, assuming that the redemptions net of revenue normalize and are in line with where everybody else is. The complement of ad-based revenue that we generate relative to our past experience, those are things that should drive improved margins. Those are all things that we're obviously intensely focused on scaling and growing. Zhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:32:39That's it for me. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you, Scott. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:32:41Okay. Okay, Martin. Thanks. Operator00:32:45Thank you. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. This does conclude today's conference, and we may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation. Andrew PascalChairman and CEO at PLAYSTUDIOS00:32:59Thanks, everyone.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesSCOTT PETERSONCFOJoel AgenaGeneral CounselAndrew PascalChairman and CEOAnalystsRyan SigdahlSenior Research Analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group, LLCMike HickeySenior Analyst at The Benchmark Company, LLCZhihua Martin YangExecutive Director and Senior Analyst in Equity Research at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.Aaron LeeSenior Research Analyst at Macquarie Group LimitedPowered by