NYSE:KVYO Klaviyo Q4 2024 Earnings Report $15.40 -0.47 (-2.98%) Closing price 09/18/2026 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$15.39 -0.01 (-0.05%) As of 09/18/2026 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Klaviyo EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.06Consensus EPS $0.06Beat/MissMissed by -$0.12One Year Ago EPSN/AKlaviyo Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$270.16 millionExpected Revenue$257.24 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$12.92 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AKlaviyo Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date2/19/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, February 19, 2025Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsKlaviyo's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, November 4, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Klaviyo Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 19, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Strong financial performance: Q4 revenue of $270M (+34% YoY), FY24 revenue $937M (+34%), $150M free cash flow, and non-GAAP operating margins of 6% in Q4 and 12% for the year. Platform innovation with 200+ new features in 2024, including AI-powered email & SMS tools and enhanced analytics to drive customer results. Global expansion accelerated with a 42% YoY international revenue increase, seven-language support, and a new Dublin office. Upmarket traction: 2,850 customers >$50K ARR (+46% YoY), 10K Q4 net new customer adds (total 167K, +17%), and 108% dollar-based net revenue retention. Enforcing pricing on active profiles (capped at 25% increases) alongside auto-downgrades may trigger incremental churn and only minimal near-term revenue uplift. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallKlaviyo Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon and welcome to Klaviyo's Q4 and full year fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Andrew Zilli, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Andrew ZilliVP of Investor Relations at Klaviyo00:00:35Thanks. Good afternoon and thanks for joining Klaviyo's Q4 and full year 2024 earnings call. Our earnings press release, SEC filings, and a replay of today's call can be found on our IR website at investors.klaviyo.com. With me today on the call are Andrew Bialecki, Co-founder and CEO, and Amanda Whalen, CFO. As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in today's earnings press release or earnings release supplemental materials, which can be found on our investor relations website. Andrew ZilliVP of Investor Relations at Klaviyo00:01:12Additionally, some of our comments today contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize, or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Andrew ZilliVP of Investor Relations at Klaviyo00:01:30A description of these risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, and other factors that could affect our financial results are included in our SEC filings, including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K filed today. We do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements except as required by law. With that, I'll now turn it over to Andrew. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:01:53Thanks Zilli and thanks to everyone for joining us today. At Klaviyo, we empower more than 167,000 brands around the world to leverage their data to build personalized, lasting, and valuable consumer relationships across multiple channels. Our 2024 financial performance is a clear indication of our importance in driving revenue for our customers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:02:12We had a very strong finish to the year with $270 million in Q4 revenue, up 34% year-over-year, crossing a $1 billion revenue run rate as we delivered our strongest Black Friday Cyber Monday yet. For the full year, we grew our revenue by 34% to $937 million while driving nearly $150 million in free cash flow. I want to thank our partners and Klaviyans around the world for supporting our customers throughout the year, and thanks to all of our customers for choosing Klaviyo to help grow your business. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:02:44Before sharing highlights from the year, I want to touch on three defining themes for Klaviyo. First, we are a growth company, and we are executing well on our strategy to deliver sustainable, efficient, long-term growth by moving up market, expanding internationally, adding more customers, and growing with our existing customers. Second, our approach to data with the powerful Klaviyo Data Platform is a core differentiator and the backbone of our vertically integrated omnichannel platform that positions Klaviyo as a single source of truth for customers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:03:15And third, consumer expectations are shifting, and our data-first approach puts Klaviyo in an exceptional position to redefine the next era of consumer engagement. Now, turning to 2024 highlights, we continue to innovate and expand the capabilities of our platform, and our pace of innovation is a key driver of why companies continue to choose Klaviyo. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:03:38Across the company, our teams delivered more than 200 new features to help make our customers more successful and set Klaviyo apart in the market. On our marketing automation platform, we made it easier for marketers to get their jobs done faster with scheduled flows and automated campaign follow-ups. We launched a campaigns library and expanded our suite of AI functionality with features like Text AI and Email AI to inspire creativity and make it easier to create content. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:04:06And we made SMS audience acquisition more effective by using one-time codes with SMS Smart Opt-in forms. Speaking of SMS, we now have SMS coverage in 19 countries, great progress in helping our customers reach their consumers around the globe. We also enhanced our platform's next-generation analytics capabilities with tools like product analysis to empower marketers with real-time insights that optimize merchandising strategies and post-purchase outreach. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:04:37We launched the RFM Action Center, which uses recency, frequency, and monetary value analysis to provide actionable recommendations for retention, repeat purchases, and loyalty. These expanded analytics capabilities help customers address the challenges of fragmented data and disconnected tools and more efficiently put their data to work. Growing our presence internationally remains a top priority for Klaviyo, and we made great progress in 2024. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:05:04We made our platform and customer help center available in six additional languages while launching local language websites and marketing efforts in certain regions. We hosted our Klaviyo London event, continued expanding our team in Europe, and recently opened up a new Dublin office where we will build out a larger presence going forward. Ecosystem-led growth through strong partners and integration is key to our success, and our partnership team continues to drive great results. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:05:33We launched a number of new integrations with companies like Canva, Pinterest, Toast, and others, and added features like the Universal Content API to make it even easier for partners to work with Klaviyo. We also held our first in-person Partner Advisory Council, bringing together leaders from across our partner ecosystem to discuss and gather feedback on our 2025 strategy, evolution of the platform, and roadmaps to take us forward. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:05:59And as we announced a few weeks ago, we signed a great partnership with Woo, making Klaviyo the preferred marketing automation partner for WooCommerce, replacing an older newsletter software. With Klaviyo's built-in data platform and WooCommerce's flexibility, our joint customers have everything they need to build direct connections with their consumers and thrive in a competitive commerce landscape. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:06:24This partnership represents an important step in our expansion internationally into new markets in retail and beyond retail to support a diverse range of businesses, from content creators to web developers who are fostering communities and delivering value in unique ways. Companies of all sizes are coming to Klaviyo, whether a brand new business or a large established brand needing to modernize and consolidate their tech stack. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:06:49Because our platform is vertically integrated, easy to use, flexible, and capable of handling even the most difficult use cases. Having a unified view of the consumer is important to customers of all sizes, especially in the higher end of the market. Clarks, the iconic British shoe brand, chose Klaviyo to consolidate their tech stack with our vertically integrated platform with help from our new partner, AbsoluteLabs. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:07:16They were using multiple vendors that required batch processing every 24 hours, making it difficult to build real-time segmentation and marketing campaigns. With Klaviyo, they are combining data across channels, including point of sale and e-commerce data, allowing them to leverage segmentation, omnichannel personalization, and cutting-edge AI capabilities. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:07:36Grunt Style, a national patriotic apparel brand, moved to Klaviyo in the Q4 due to our fully integrated platform. Despite being one of the largest customers for their prior vendor, they were unable to run the analytics they needed and even debated building their own CDP. Instead, they chose Klaviyo, enabling them to centralize their consumer data, run advanced analytics, and leverage the insights into omnichannel engagement. Omnichannel campaigns are extremely important as companies need to reach consumers over their preferred channels. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:08:11Every Man Jack, a men's personal care and grooming company, added Klaviyo SMS, moving away from their prior vendor ahead of Black Friday Cyber Monday. Every Man Jack saw the value in leveraging a single data platform to power their omnichannel communications, allowing them to build more personal digital relationships and a more efficient marketing strategy. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:08:31We continue to expand across verticals and regions, and customers with complex business models choose Klaviyo to further their digital strategy. Parramatta Eels, a rugby team in Australia, switched to Klaviyo to find a trusted data and marketing solution that was easy to use for their small marketing team, allowing them to drive more engaging and relevant personalized communications. We also signed new or expansion deals in Q4 with DKNY, Ted Baker, BarkBox, CorePower Yoga, INTRO Travel, Motor Culture, Reebok, Champion, and more. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:09:10These customers represent different products and services, but they come to Klaviyo with the same challenges. They're struggling to meet rising consumer demand while using disconnected systems and channel-first tools. Small marketing teams are under pressure to deliver personalized experiences at scale. Siloed data makes it hard to create smart segmentation, measure what's working, and automate easily. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:09:33There are software solutions built for B2B businesses designed for human-powered and slower sales motions, but no solution has truly tackled the challenges facing consumer businesses. No CRM platform has delivered the power needed to manage millions of fast-moving consumer interactions across multiple channels in one place until now. Klaviyo started as a database, a place for brands to understand and activate their data. We transformed email marketing from batch and blast to data-driven campaigns. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:10:06Over the last 13 years, we've expanded our marketing automation suite, solidifying Klaviyo as the leading platform for powering digital relationships. But we've always planned to extend what we did for marketing to other surfaces and aspects of the customer journey. The most successful consumer businesses today are creating personalized experiences by unifying their channels and data across every touchpoint. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:10:28This new standard for consumer engagement requires integrated marketing built on an embedded data platform powered by AI and analytics. Klaviyo is uniquely positioned to drive this new era of consumer engagement. As we look ahead, our vision is to expand our scope to power and improve even more of the consumer journey, helping brands deliver omnichannel experiences that fuel growth. In fact, our customers are already asking for us to play a bigger role in how they engage with their consumers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:10:55Built for the speed and scale of the consumer world, Klaviyo's data-first approach gives us the distinct advantage to meet the demands of this market and category in marketing and beyond. Tomorrow afternoon, we'll be hosting a Built for B2C event, which will be live-streamed starting at 4:00PM Eastern. Head to klaviyo.com to register for the event and tune in to learn more about how Klaviyo is powering the next era of consumer engagement. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:11:21I'm extremely proud of the progress we made in 2024. Our vertically integrated data-centric platform is a key differentiator that positions Klaviyo to redefine consumer engagement. The product and platform we are delivering sets the stage for our growth not only in 2025, but for the next several years as we continue to execute on our growth levers and deliver the best platform for our customers. Thanks to the over 2,000 Klaviyos for their relentless focus on our customers in 2024, and with that, I'll turn it over to Amanda. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:11:54Thanks, Andrew. Klaviyo delivered another quarter of strong financial performance in Q4 to close out a great year as we continue to deliver efficient growth at scale. In the Q4, revenue grew 34% year-over-year to $270 million. Non-GAAP operating margin was 6%, and free cash flow was $54 million, up 57% year-over-year. For the full year, we delivered revenue of $937 million, up 34% year-over-year, with a non-GAAP operating margin of 12%, delivering well above the Rule of 40. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:12:33We're very proud of these results as we continue to deliver both growth and profitability at scale. Andrew discussed several key themes earlier, and these results are evidence that our data-first approach is resonating and we are executing well on our growth strategy. We are adding new customers, growing in the mid-market, expanding with existing customers, and expanding internationally. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:13:00In Q4, we added over 10,000 new customers, and we now have more than 167,000 customers, up 17% year-over-year. We continue to see strength in the low and high end of the market, and notably, we started to see some stabilization in the SMB space as the number of new SMB customers improved quarter over quarter. We acknowledge that this may be partially driven by the heightened demand during the holiday season, but it is an encouraging sign nonetheless. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:13:30Our Q4 revenue came in stronger than expected. Driven by the continued high value, our customers realized from our platform during the holiday shopping season. The pricing changes we made back in April related to prorated billing also benefited revenue in the mid-single-digit millions of dollars, though a majority of that was included in our guidance. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:13:54Our investments to move up market continued to show success as we ended Q4 with 2,850 customers generating over $50,000 in ARR, up 46% year-over-year. We had another strong quarter of adding new customers in this cohort, continuing the trend of landing larger customers from day one. We continue to drive expansion with our existing customers as they grow their usage and add new products, as can be seen in our dollar-based net revenue retention rate, or NRR, which was 108% for the quarter. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:14:31Notably, our in-period NRR stabilized from Q3 to Q4, so while I don't want to call a floor based on two data points, it's good to see some stability in that NRR metric. Our cross-sell motion continues to deliver strong results, especially with email customers adding SMS. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:14:50As of year-end, Klaviyo SMS is used by more than 18% of our total customers and more than 26% of our combined SMB and mid-market customers. Going forward, we will only be disclosing the combined SMB and mid-market SMS attach rate, as we believe that is a better indication of our traction in this product. We'll continue to provide this update on an annual basis. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:15:15As you heard from Andrew, we made tremendous progress this year in our international expansion on both the go-to-market and product fronts. In Q4, EMEA revenue growth accelerated to 49% year-over-year, notable strength in France, Germany, and the Nordics, while our combined international revenue grew 42% year-over-year. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:15:41Moving on, Q4 non-GAAP gross margin was 74%, down approximately 5 points year-over-year, primarily due to increased infrastructure costs in support of the holiday season, continued growth of our SMS product, and to a lesser extent, our new employee bonus program. For the full year, non-GAAP gross margin was 77%, down about 1 point from last year. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:16:08Turning to non-GAAP operating expenses, each line item increased as a percentage of revenue from Q3 as a result of the impact of the full-year accrual related to the new employee bonus program that was recognized in Q4. Aside from that impact, R&D was slightly higher as a result of additional expenses to support our Black Friday Cyber Monday infrastructure. In G&A, we had an additional international tax-related reserve release, similar to prior quarters, that offset some of the employee bonus impact. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:16:44Going forward, we do not expect any additional tax-related reserve releases that would have a material impact on our G&A line. For the Q4, our Non-GAAP operating income was $15 million, representing a Non-GAAP operating margin of 5.6%. This was better than expected, primarily as a result of the revenue upside we saw in the quarter. For the full year, Non-GAAP operating income was $113 million, for a Non-GAAP operating margin of 12%. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:17:15We generated free cash flow of $54 million during the quarter, up 57% year-over-year, and $149 million for the year, up 35% from the prior year due to both higher operating income and interest income. Before I get to guidance, let me discuss some pricing updates that went live yesterday. Klaviyo introduced new pricing features that our customers have been asking for, including auto downgrade and flexible sending options. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:17:48In addition, we are recommitting to our original pricing intent to enforce pricing based on active profiles because we believe in the value of the consumer profile and the power of the data it contains. Customers who are out of compliance will be moved to a compliant plan, and in the spirit of being customer-friendly, we are limiting price increases to a maximum of 25%. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:18:12Importantly, most customers are not expected to see a pricing increase as a result of these changes. That said, we do anticipate some incremental churn, which may impact customer accounts in Q1. These changes are expected to generate minimal benefit to full-year revenue. Very importantly, though, they will reduce pricing friction for our customers and better position us for the future. As we move to 2025, our priorities as a growth company remain consistent. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:18:44We will continue to invest behind adding new customers, expanding internationally, moving up market, and expanding with existing customers. Our investments in 2025 will largely be aligned with these priorities. In addition, we are planning incremental investments in supporting our expansion into new products as well as new verticals. From a capital allocation perspective, we anticipate 2025 will be similar to 2024. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:19:13As growth is our top priority, we are confident that the investments we're making today will support our efforts to drive long-term sustainable growth. Now turning to guidance. For Q1, we expect revenue of $265 to 269 million, representing year-over-year growth of 26% to 28%, driven by continued strength up market and internationally. This guidance also takes into account the seasonality of our business from Q4 to Q1, as well as our expectations for a smaller benefit from the prorated billing changes than we saw in Q4. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:19:53We expect Q1 non-GAAP operating income of $25.5 to 28.5 million, representing a non-GAAP operating margin of 10% to 11%. This guidance includes an expected increase in our Q1 marketing spend, including our product event tomorrow and additional demand generation investments that will take place earlier in the year. Additionally, you'll recall that we accrued the entire 2024 employee bonus expense in Q4, but going forward, it will be accrued in each quarter. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:20:27As a result, you should expect non-GAAP operating margin to be down mid-single digits year-over-year for each of the first three quarters and up year-over-year in the Q4. While we don't provide guidance for gross margin or cash flow, I want to highlight a few items that will impact our Q1 performance. First, we plan to make additional infrastructure investments to support our growing cohort of larger customers. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:20:55While these investments will scale over time, we expect it will result in Q1 gross margin coming in slightly below our 2024 gross margin of 77%. Second, regarding Q1 cash flow, as you build your models, there are two factors to consider. One is that the payment related to our employee bonus program will go out in Q1. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:21:17In addition, we'll see the seasonal reset of some payroll-related items, such as Social Security tax, which typically have a greater impact in the first half of the year. As a result, we expect our Q1 Free Cash Flow will be negative. As we look to the full year, we are taking into account not only the trends in our own business, some of which are starting to stabilize, but also the broader environment. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:21:44We are cautiously optimistic about the improving external small business sentiment, but we are not yet assuming meaningful improvement in our guidance until we see a sustained change in purchasing behavior. With that said, for the full year 2025, we are initiating revenue guidance of $1.156 to 1.164 billion for year-over-year growth of 23% to 24%, consistent with the expectations we set on our Q3 call. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:22:14We expect non-GAAP operating income of $130 to 136 million, representing a non-GAAP operating margin of 11% to 12%. Because of the impact of the bonus accrual, as well as timing of marketing spending, we expect this year's operating income linearity to look different from last year, with our annual operating income lighter in the first three quarters and more heavily weighted in Q4. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:22:42As we discussed on our Q3 call, our non-GAAP operating margin is roughly consistent to where we ended 2024, primarily driven by continued investments in the growth drivers I discussed previously. In closing, 2024 was a great year for Klaviyo. We are executing our growth strategy, continue to differentiate ourselves in the market with our vertically integrated Klaviyo Data Platform. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:23:08And we're excited to expand our scope to power and improve even more of the customer journey, helping brands deliver omnichannel experiences that fuel growth. We are well-positioned to continue delivering growth and profitability at scale as we continue to drive success for our customers. And with that, I'll open up the call for Q&A. Operator? Operator00:23:31Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. We ask that you limit yourself to one question to allow everyone an opportunity to ask a question. You may re-queue for a follow-up. We'll take our first question from Gabriela Borges at Goldman Sachs. Gabriela BorgesManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:23:59Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. AB and Amanda, I wanted to get a little bit more color on your mid-market pipeline. I'm thinking about the color that you've pretty consistently provided over the last year about the opportunity you see there. Could you give us maybe a little more clarification? How is the mid-market pipeline going? Gabriela BorgesManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:24:21When I look at your data on customers greater than $50,000, that number has obviously been growing really nicely for a while. So how sustainable do you think the growth in that cohort is? And any other qualitative or quantitative commentary you're willing to provide would be helpful. Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:24:38Great. Thanks, Gabriela. Yeah, happy to talk about that. First off, we're very happy with both the results in terms of customer adds and revenue, as well as the pipeline and forward-looking demand that we're building in the mid-market segment and now increasingly also starting to be into that enterprise segment as well. The value prop that we have for our mid-market enterprise customers is very clear. We provide a data platform that allows them to pull all of their customer data into one place. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:25:09It connects with all of their systems and allows them to put that data to work in our marketing platform and other applications that they're using to deliver the customer experience. The fact that there's more complexity actually plays to our advantage. We can handle the scale, their security requirements. We also have the flexibility through our API-first design to support a lot of the use cases that those larger businesses have. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:25:34We're very excited about the growth that we've seen. Businesses like Clarks, Grunt Style, Reebok, Champion, and others all joined us in Q4. Like you commented on, we're very excited about the growth we've seen in the number of customers in that 50K cohort. One other thing that we're really excited about is we're seeing more of our mid-market customers adopt more of the Klaviyo product suite. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:25:57So our average revenue per customer in Q4 was up 15% year-over-year, which is another very strong indicator to us that there's good product market fit. So that's something that we're going to be investing in this year, always with an eye towards strong unit economics. And we think that's a very durable growth driver in 2025 and the next few years. Operator00:26:17We'll move next to Terry Tillman at Truist. Terry TillmanManaging Director at Truist00:26:22Yeah, hey, AB, Amanda, and Zilli. Thanks for taking my question. It might be a multi-parter, so just beware. About the up-market opportunity here, what I'm curious about is even the teams that are kind of building out the infrastructure. I'm curious about how much you're able to leverage PLG and kind of word of mouth as opposed to having to be more heavily outbound. And the second part is how ramped is the sales team? Is there any kind of natural ceiling right now up-market in terms of the size of customer? Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:26:54Sure. Thanks, Terry. First, on the PLG motion. That's how we build products. While we find that a lot of our mid-market enterprise customers, they still want. They have a conversation with us before actually buying. The way that we design Klaviyo is that it's so easy to pull data in, ingest it. It's easy to start to build out use cases. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:27:19It actually makes that evaluation process a lot faster and a lot smoother. In that sense, that PLG motion for us is lowering the cost of acquisition. Certainly, as we build up more social proof, more brands, we're also finding that there's a lot of mid-market enterprise businesses that are starting maybe with one brand and then spreading Klaviyo across their entire portfolio. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:27:42Then on the ramp on the sales team, this is something that we've been very thoughtful about. We've built up the demand in mid-market and now in enterprise. We've grown the sales team actually a little bit behind that demand to make sure that we're matching the demand with sales capacity. We did start to build sales capacity, especially in the US in 2024 for the mid-market segment. We're pleased with how that's going. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:28:08We mentioned we've also had some strong growth internationally. We're seeing actually increased demand in the mid-market and enterprise internationally, especially in Europe. That's a place that we're also planning to expand and grow sales capacity this year because now that we've internationalized the product and we've done some of the front marketing, we think that's another area where we can grow the mid-market business. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:28:34Terry, just building a little bit on what AB said, as you look to 2025, we've made good progress with the sales team who we hired in 2024. Therefore, we're going to continue to invest behind growing that quota-carrying capacity. Hiring sales teams who have a track record of strong success with mid-market and enterprise customers, investing in training behind them and really evolving the way that we sell and continuing to expand our partner ecosystem there as well. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:29:03Then to the last part of your question about what does the size of those customers, what is that looking like? Consistent with what we've spoken about before, these customers can be quite large. In the top 10, the average of our top 10 customers is north of $1.5 million of ARR. Certainly growing into some very significant relationships with these larger brands. Operator00:29:28We'll go next to DJ Hynes at Canaccord. DJ HynesSenior Analyst at Canaccord00:29:34Hey, guys. Congrats on the nice quarter. AB, I was wondering if you could update us on ARR overlap with the Shopify ecosystem, how that partnership is progressing from a lead flow perspective. And then you mentioned WooCommerce, but I'm curious if there are any other B2C ecosystem opportunities that seem promising as you guys kind of continue to diversify away from Shopify. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:29:59Yeah, sure. Okay, so let me take that in three parts. The first, Shopify. We've had a great experience working with Shopify. We really love working with the Shopify team. That obviously started with our product and the integration there. We've done a lot of work on that in the last year to make data flowing back and forth between folks that run on Klaviyo and Shopify easier, and as Shopify has converted more businesses to their platform, we found that those customers are also coming to Klaviyo. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:30:31Interestingly, we actually have a number of brands that have chosen to move to Klaviyo first and then have followed on by moving their e-commerce stack to Shopify. So our relationship there is very strong. I actually think it's a model for how we should work with other technology and software platforms. With WooCommerce, I think that offers a slightly different profile of customer. The WooCommerce customer base is over four million merchants using WooCommerce. It's more international. It's also the use cases are a little bit more varied. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:31:03It's a little bit you can customize because WooCommerce is open source, you can customize the WooCommerce platform more easily. So that actually helps us spread outside of, say, pure play e-commerce. And then finally, when it comes to new verticals and alternative use cases, we added a number of new integrations in 2024. That, again, are modeled off of our partnerships with Shopify and others. Integrations with Zenoti, Olo, OpenTable, Toast. And these are all meant to help Klaviyo. We really have good. We've got good product market fit with other use cases. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:31:39Connecting to those other services, I mean, one, it helps us on the go-to-market side. From a product perspective, it means that now that transaction data, say, for that restaurant or that yoga studio, it's easy for them to sync their data to Klaviyo. And what we're finding is good growth there. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:31:56We think we've got a couple of features for folks that have non-e-commerce use cases that we'll be releasing this year that we're excited about. We think we're going to grow organically with new verticals. It's not one of our top growth levers, but we're excited about the progress that we're making. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:32:12Just building a little bit on what AB was talking about, about the progress that we're making with Shopify and how we co-sell with them. We've been working on unifying our messaging, our account mapping, our enablement, and some of the evidence that that is working and that we are going to market together. Many of the large enterprise customers who Shopify has been speaking about are also strong Klaviyo customers as well. That's brands like Reebok and Champion and BarkBox. And so we're really excited to partner with them as we each continue to move into the mid-market and enterprise and beyond. Operator00:32:44We'll take our next question from Rob Oliver at Baird. Rob OliverSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:32:50Great. Good afternoon. Thanks, guys. On international, and AB touched on this a little bit in response to DJ's question, but I'd be curious to get an update from you guys on what you've seen on the ground in some of the geographies, such as France and others, that you've enabled in the back half of 2024. And then if you could just take a moment to update us on what the roadmap is in terms of additional either geos or languages for 2025 and how the Woo relationship may have either accelerated or changed that in any way. Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:33:22Sure. So 2024 was a great year for international. Our full-year international revenue grew 42%, and we're very happy with that. And kind of like you alluded to, we've tried to lay a lot of the foundation for growth internationally over the next couple of years. We expanded Klaviyo from being in one language, English, to now seven. We also took SMS, a product where we have to work with local regulators and telcos. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:33:51We've expanded that now to 19 countries. And that actually gives us an enormous amount of coverage of the European market and growing parts of Asia, so built on top of that, we're focused on building out teams that are localized to those countries. Germany, France, Spain, Italy are all places where we're going to hire local language-speaking sales and support to help us support growth there. We're also working on partnerships that are more regionally oriented. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:34:21So folks like PrestaShop, Think Digital, Oz, and others are helping us expand our partner-led motion outside of the US. So you add all that up, I think we don't feel that we need to introduce more languages or increase our coverage of SMS dramatically this year to support accelerated growth international. Now, we'll continue to evaluate those as we see opportunities. But I think we've done a lot of the heavy lifting on the product side in 2024, which is going to help support accelerated growth or large growth in 2025. Operator00:34:56We'll take our next question from Elizabeth Porter at Morgan Stanley. Elizabeth PorterSVP at Morgan Stanley00:35:02Great. Thank you so much for the question. I wanted to touch on the NRR, where you mentioned seeing some stabilization in the end quarter metric. And I understand it's just too early to call a bottom. Would love to better understand just the behavior that you're seeing. Elizabeth PorterSVP at Morgan Stanley00:35:18Sounds like gross retention has been strong for a while. So any sort of incremental clarity on where you're seeing the improvements, either cross-sell or expansion? And then when we should think about the point in time that we start to lap some easier compares. Thank you. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:35:31Thanks, Elizabeth. Yes, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we did see stabilization in the end period NRR from Q3 to Q4, which is encouraging. Now, we're not ready to draw too many conclusions from two data points at this point, but as I said, we're cautiously optimistic as we look forward to 2025. Breaking down NRR into its individual components, as you said, gross retention remains consistent and strong. Once customers are on the Klaviyo platform and they see the value and the ROI and the revenue that we are driving for their business, the platform is incredibly sticky. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:36:09On stabilization, we are, sorry, on expansion, we are seeing some stabilization in the expansion trends. And then we're continuing to make good progress on cross-sell efforts. And you can see that and that progress in the growth and the number of customers who we have who are using SMS. And then also, as a reminder, this is the first full quarter that we've had without any impact from the 2022 pricing changes that have impacted NRR for the last couple of years. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:36:34And so certainly, lapping that contributes to the stabilization as well. But overall, we're confident that as we continue to add tremendous value to companies and we continue to expand our product portfolio, customers are going to continue to expand their business in turn with us. And so our focus remains on delivering value for our customers, making it easier for them to put Klaviyo to work in driving revenue and building those lasting consumer relationships. Elizabeth PorterSVP at Morgan Stanley00:36:59Great. Thank you. Operator00:37:01Next question comes from Arjun Bhatia at William Blair. Arjun BhatiaPartner and Co-Group Head at William Blair00:37:06Thank you. And congrats here on the nice Q4. AB, if I can come back to you, I just on the product side, you talked quite a bit about where the platform might expand to next. You clearly have kind of a foundational data layer built out, and you've built on top of it, obviously, with marketing. But as you're thinking of product evolution, what are you prioritizing? And is that something that we should expect this year, or is that kind of a longer-term, more kind of ambitious product roadmap that you've laid out? Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:37:43Yeah, that's great. So let me touch on three things that we're focused on when it comes to our products. The first is embedding artificial intelligence across the different layers of the Klaviyo stack. Now, we've talked about the data platform that Klaviyo is built on and this being the central source of truth for all your consumer data, pulling that in from all different sources, and then making that data actionable. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:38:11We've done a great job of building artificial intelligence there in terms of predictive capabilities about what each consumer is going to do next. You can think about this as product recommendations, predicting next action. And we're now extending that to other parts of the Klaviyo platform, including like, "Hey, what kinds of marketing campaigns should you run next?" So not just on an individual basis, but also in aggregate. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:38:34So what we're doing with AI is we think we can embed it across our data platform as well as inside of our marketing application and other products. And that's going to be, that's really going to help our customers accelerate their revenue growth with Klaviyo, what we call KAV. And that's going to provide a lot of additional value, which in the future we can look to monetize. So that's number one for us. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:38:56Number two is doubling down on being the source of truth for our customers. We've built out a lot of scale in our data platform. We're increasing the number of connectors. We mentioned some of the other integrations, the other data sets that we're incorporating. We're also building more tooling to allow people to manipulate and use that data outside of Klaviyo. I'm very excited about this. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:39:19I think every consumer business is going to need a data platform that is their real-time source of truth on what consumers are up to and can connect to every application that helps create and deliver customer experiences. So we're building that kind of core infrastructure, and we're excited about the trajectory there. And then finally, when it comes to the applications that sit on top of this data platform, we obviously started with marketing, and we're very excited about the progress we're making there across email, SMS, and now mobile. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:39:51We have a point of view that we're going to make the data and AI embedded in each of those applications and each of those channels. But also, we want to build best-in-class creative tools. Sometimes they're tools for our users to use. Sometimes they're through generate AI. We want to create best-in-class content creation, best-in-class deliverability. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:40:08We're actually now starting in marketing to build products or features that will help you work across channels. Now deciding, "Hey, does this consumer, does this message, does it make sense to send over email, over SMS, over mobile, in the future, other channels like WhatsApp or other messaging platforms?" We've built the intelligence. We're building the intelligence to do that automatically to drive ROI. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:40:31As part of extending beyond our channels, we're also thinking about other parts of the customer experience that Klaviyo can have an impact on. I mentioned tomorrow we've got a bunch of product releases coming, so I won't steal all the news from that. I think if you think about the entire customer experience, marketing is just one piece of that. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:40:51When we think about what it means to drive the customer experience, be the complete CRM and data platform for the businesses we're serving, I think there are use cases beyond just marketing that Klaviyo can help power. We're excited to. We're building a lot of product and excited to invest there as well. Operator00:41:08We'll move next to Brent Bracelin at Piper Sandler. Brent BracelinHead of Technology Equity Capital Markets at Piper Sandler00:41:14Thank you. Good afternoon. AB, Amanda, I wanted to double-click into the customer logo growth. It accelerated to 17% for the first time in a couple of years. Could you walk through the puts and takes on customer growth expectations in the coming year? I think, Amanda, you talked about new simplified pricing potentially driving some churn. On the other hand, you have this new WooCommerce partnership and international going strong that could possibly offset that. Brent BracelinHead of Technology Equity Capital Markets at Piper Sandler00:41:45So are we thinking about mid-teens logo growth, or could simplified pricing be a bigger impact on the entrepreneur part of the business, and we should be thinking closer to low-teens growth for customers? Any color there would be helpful. Thanks. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:42:02Thanks, Brent. Yes, we're very proud that we added over 10,000 net new customers in Q4. And what we saw in Q4 was strength across all of our customer cohorts. So now, as you recall, the largest number of our customer adds tends to come from our entrepreneur customers. And in that group, we saw strong results coming from our marketing team's efforts to really target those and bring them into the Klaviyo family. On the high end, we had a near record high number of new lands in our greater than 50K cohort. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:42:35And then also in the middle, as we mentioned on the call, we also saw strong quarter on quarter growth in SMB net adds as well. The key driver for it is that we continue to drive great value for our customers. And so, as a result, the Klaviyo platform is really being seen as the standard for B2C businesses. Now, customer adds is not necessarily a number that we guide to specifically, but maybe as you think about some of the puts and takes for the year and how the linearity might play out. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:43:05In Q1, based on the seasonality of the business, we typically see lighter Q1 customer adds in general. And then additionally, as I mentioned in my remarks, we are expecting a modest increase in churn as a result of the new pricing enforcement. And so that may impact our total customer count in Q1. But over time, we continue to see adding new customers as a key lever for our growth, along with expanding existing customers, growing in the mid-market, and growing internationally. Operator00:43:33We'll go next to Raimo Lenschow at Barclays. Raimo LenschowManaging Director at Barclays00:43:39Perfect. Thank you. Congrats from me as well. First question on going back to WooCommerce. If you think about it, the strategy was a little bit moving upmarket over the last few quarters. WooCommerce looks is more like downmarket in my view. How do I have to think about it? Is this like a new path now? Is it just broadening of the strategy? How should we think about it? And then I had one follow-up for Amanda. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:44:03Sure. Sorry I need to comment that. The reality is we've had a pre-existing partnership with the Woo and WooCommerce team. We already have over 15,000 brands that are using Klaviyo and WooCommerce together. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:44:19We think there's an opportunity for that to be much larger. So I think we're being very opportunistic here, where we've got good product-market fit. And I think we worked with the Woo team. I think we think our two products can work really well together. We can help those WooCommerce businesses be even more successful. And look, I think this is a little bit of a nod to what we've done, what Klaviyo has done for e-commerce businesses worldwide, both for entrepreneurs and in the enterprise. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:44:48I think we're starting to reach a kind of default status. And so we're very. I think this kind of proves that. And we ultimately think that we can serve folks from when they're just starting out to when they're scaling to be one of the iconic brands of our time. So yeah, I think we can do both at the same time. We're very excited about this partnership. Raimo LenschowManaging Director at Barclays00:45:09Okay. Perfect. And then for Amanda, can you talk a little bit about the new offer or the decision to offer auto downgrades for customers? Can you provide some color on the mechanics here and how that might impact Q4, Q1 numbers as well? Thank you. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:45:25Thanks, Raimo. Yeah. As we shared in the remarks, we made a few changes to pricing that were effective yesterday, including flexible sending for email and SMS and an auto downgrade option. And what that auto downgrade option does is it checks whether a customer's profile count qualifies them for a lower plan. And if it does, then it moves them down automatically. Those were features that our customers had been requesting for a while. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:45:52We are committed to removing friction in the process so that our customers have Klaviyo be as easy to buy as it is easy to use. And so adding those two new features was an important part of being responsive to customers and making sure that we're just removing that friction from the process for them. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:46:10The other change that we made is recommitting to our pricing intent to enforce pricing based on active profiles because customers drive value from the data that they store with Klaviyo. And so pricing based on profiles and making sure that we're consistent in how we enforce on that is an important part of committing to that value that our customers are driving from Klaviyo. Now, a couple of things to note on it. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:46:35One is that I mentioned that the majority of customers are not expected to see a pricing change because of any of these changes because they're already on a plan that is appropriate for the number of profiles that they're storing with us. And then for those customers who do see a change, regardless of how many profiles they're storing with us, in the spirit of being customer-friendly, we're limiting price increases to a maximum of 25%. We did see a slight uptick in churn in January after this was announced. That was expected based on our experience with pricing pilots that we ran leading up to these changes. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:47:11And so if you think about what is the impact for this for the full year, if you take into account all of these factors, the uplift from pricing enforcement, offset by a small amount of churn, and then as well as some expansion impacts that come from the introduction of auto downgrades and flex pricing. Overall, we're assuming a minimal overall revenue benefit for the year. But most importantly, what these changes do is they reduce friction for our customers. They anchor our pricing in the unique value that Klaviyo drives through data. And both of these changes tee us up well for the future. Operator00:47:48We'll move next to Derrick Wood at TD Cowen. Derrick WoodManaging Director at TD Cowen00:47:53Great. Thanks. And congrats on a great quarter. AB, it sounds like you've made great strides in expanding the number of countries you can deliver SMS in. Just how should we think about the revenue unlock? I mean, is there a lot of pent-up demand? So quickly after you turn this on in new countries, you'll see some incremental revenue conversion, or is this something that now you start a new sales cycle and start looking to cross-sell in these new countries and expect dividends to come down the pike over the next six, nine, 12 months? Just curious about the go-to-market now that you've expanded the countries. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:48:30Sure. I think it's probably a mix of both. What we found actually as we've expanded SMS coverage to a number of predominantly European markets, we have found a lot of customers that were actually kind of waiting for Klaviyo to have support for the countries and regions they care about. So I do think there's sort of an initial kind of uptick in SMS demand from customers from that. At the same time, sometimes folks have existing SMS programs, and it takes them some time to migrate off. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:49:04Maybe they're waiting for a contract to renew. So I do think there also will be a long-term benefit to this. And with SMS in our go-to-market strategy. What we focus on is. We'll take Europe as an example. As we grow internationally, we're finding a lot more of the businesses we're working with, they're cross-border, they're multi-region, multi-country businesses. And so having SMS support that spans a large percentage of their customer base, if it's not 100%, it's very high, makes a big difference. Because when folks want to invest in an SMS program, they typically want to do it in a way that is comprehensive. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:49:43And I think the SMS coverage plus some of the other things that we're building for international customers, capabilities that make it easier to send campaigns and do marketing in multiple languages without a lot of extra work, work with product catalogs, inventory that's cross-border where pricing may be different. We've built a lot of that functionality directly in the Klaviyo. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:50:07I think you add that all up, and that's giving us the opportunity to both go after more businesses that, say, want to expand their SMS program, but also just want to use Klaviyo generally. And now we can help support them as they market globally, right, across the entire region or even around the world. So I'm very excited about the opportunity to unlock. And that's one of the reasons that I called out. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:50:30In the mid-market enterprise, we're actually seeing an increased demand internationally because a lot of those businesses, I mean, they tend to be multi-country. And we think we've really done some good work to get better product-market fit for those customers. Operator00:50:43We'll take our next question from Scott Berg at Needham. Scott BergSenior Analyst at Needham00:50:48Hi everyone. Thanks for taking my question during next quarter. I just wanted to follow up on the WooCommerce partnership, on the press release on it, and the commentary. Didn't hear anything along the lines of, I don't know, maybe any financial incentives or any sort of terms of, I guess, engagement, how you all are working together. Preferred partnership can mean a lot of things, but maybe help us to understand what the commitment level of both companies are, whether it's on a financial basis or maybe it's something else, maybe from a, I don't know, technology perspective. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:51:23Yeah. Thanks for the question, Scott. So in terms of the financial arrangements of the partnership, as you would expect, there's a revenue share component to it. We are not disclosing the specific details to it, but it's typical for these types of agreements to come with a revenue share agreement. There is no equity associated with the partnership. So that's an important part to note there. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:51:43In terms of overall, we're really excited to be named their preferred marketing automation provider. So now when brands join WooCommerce or for existing brands, we are their recommended partner. Saying that Klaviyo is a company who we believe in, who can help brands continue to grow and expand their customer base and build those ongoing strong relationships with their customers. We think that together we can provide a better experience for our joint customers. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:52:12And there are 4 million merchant brands who use WooCommerce around the globe, not only in retail, but as Andrew mentioned earlier, in services and in content. And so we're really excited about the opportunity that partnership opens up for local growth and then also for international and new vertical growth as well. Operator00:52:30Next, we'll go to Mark Zgutowicz at Cantor Fitzgerald. I apologize. With Benchmark. Mark ZgutowiczResearch Analyst at Benchmark00:52:40Thank you. Maybe just a macro question if I could. A lot of good fundamental questions have already been asked. Curious on the tariff front, kind of a fluid situation right now. I'm curious if you've anticipated any downstream impacts or have heard anything from any of your customers in terms of any disruption there. Thanks. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:53:06Thanks for the question. We are monitoring the geopolitical landscape as everyone is these days. But as of now, we don't expect the tariffs would impact us directly. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:53:18As you spoke about downstream implications, some of our customers may be impacted. But if they are, we're confident that they're going to continue to use Klaviyo because what our platform does is we help them efficiently drive revenue and build lasting relationships with their consumers through all economic cycles. Operator00:53:35We'll move next to Brett Knoblauch at Cantor Fitzgerald. Brett KnoblauchHead of Digital Asset Research at Cantor Fitzgerald00:53:43Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe to start, as you look at maybe the SMS adoption or increased adoption throughout the year going from 16 to 18.2, is that about what you would have expected going into the year? Did you overachieve, meet, underachieve expectations with regard to that? Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:54:06Yeah, I can take this. Look, we'd always like to grow that faster. I think probably the, but we're very happy with the adoption rate we've seen. One thing that we want to reiterate is, I think, that aggregate metric is useful, but going forward, we're going to be disclosing the attach rate for SMS with our SMB customers and above, and that was 26% in Q4. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:54:34We feel that that SMB and up, rather than the segment that we call entrepreneurs as the smaller small-medium-sized businesses, it's actually more indicative of our success. What we found is that for a lot of businesses, when they're just getting started, SMS isn't relevant right away or not for all of those businesses, so we want every business to connect with consumers over the channels that are relevant that those consumers are interested in, that business wants to provide. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:55:05What we found for a lot of the smallest businesses, as they're getting going, they have so much going on that until their SMS program is kind of entirely automated, it actually makes sense to just focus on the core channel, which typically ends up being email. We're happy with that. I think that that percentage will continue to grow. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:55:24We've done a lot of work. I mentioned some of the work we've done on SMS to expand international coverage. We're also doing a lot of work on the SMS product side. I'm very proud of our team for all of the product features we released around SMS this year, and we've actually got a lot more coming even in the next few months to make our SMS product really best in class. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:55:45The last thing I'll say is, I think SMS as a channel is going to get more interesting over the next 12, 24 months as SMS gets upgraded to a new standard called RCS that actually allows for a lot richer types of experiences being delivered through text message, through mobile messaging. We're very excited about some of the work that we're doing to allow our customers to use that new technology and get in front of this. We think that's going to have a positive impact on customer engagement, which should additionally help drive more adoption. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:56:19Just building a little bit on what AB said, one of the reasons that we're so upbeat about SMS is that we see the benefit it drives for our customers. So when an email customer adds SMS, not only do they get the additional KAV, that Klaviyo Attributed Value and revenue from SMS, but they also see a direct uplift in their email-specific KAV. So it shows that these two channels are better together. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:56:44And in fact, Klaviyo customers who added SMS to their marketing strategy during Black Friday, Cyber Monday this year experienced a 20% increase in their e-commerce revenue year on year. And one of our favorite examples, a customer who came to us for SMS this past quarter, is CorePower Yoga. They were a prior customer of ours, a nationwide yoga studio with over 200 locations. They're a great customer, and they expanded with us in SMS because they were facing challenges with, as many of our customers experience, a broken tech stack. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:57:17They were batching and blasting anyone who signed up for their marketing, which led to a high number of unsubscribes. And so we are now partnering together. And with Klaviyo, they're going to be able to leverage detailed customer data to make smarter sending decisions, which will reduce unsubscribes and help enhance their brand growth. Operator00:57:35We'll go next to Michael Berg at Wells Fargo. Michael BergVP at Wells Fargo00:57:40Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I'll ask quickly here for Amanda. Just double-clicking on the pricing mechanism changes. Have you worked through most of the installed base already, but given this monthly contract and you announced it about a month or so ago? And just from a functional standpoint, how can you think about how that works from how a customer finds out if they're in compliance versus not? And maybe just squeeze one more in there. Longer term, philosophically, how do you think about pricing here given a competitive end market, but obviously a highly value-added product? Thank you. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:58:17Sure. I'll start with how does it wind its way through our customer base. So we announced this to our customer base a month ago to give everyone a heads-up that this change was coming, and then the pricing change and all of these changes went into effect yesterday, and so customers who are on monthly billing cycles, it will go into effect for each of them at the point where their monthly billing cycle renews. So that will happen over the course of the next month. As part of the announcement a month ago, we did let customers know, "Here's where your profiles are today. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:58:54Here's the plan that you're on and how those two compare and what the implication for you personally would be based on the appropriate pricing tier for you to be on, as well as the appreciation discount that we are giving, which limits any pricing change for an individual customer to no more than 25%. And then importantly, as AB said, part of what we're doing through this is also educating and working with our customers on what are the profiles who they want to keep in their database. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:59:24Who are those engaged customers, how do they keep them appropriately engaged, and then if customers are becoming unengaged, what's the right way to manage their profile list. And we've put in place tools to make it easy for our customers to manage their profile list on an ongoing basis. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:59:40Yeah. And let me just add on the philosophy side. Look, we very much believe in building best-in-class premium products, but having a pricing model that's very approachable for our customers. So as we iterate on pricing, it's always with that in mind. We want to make our products easy to adopt, easy to use more of, and we try to align our pricing axes to whatever that value metric is for the specific products. So for both email and SMS, I think we're making some very positive changes for our customers here that are in response to a lot of the feedback that we've had from them over the last couple of months and even the last year or two. Operator01:00:20We'll take our final question today from Nick Altmann at Scotiabank. Nick AltmannDirector of Equity Research at Scotiabank01:00:24Awesome. Thank you so much. AB, you mentioned you held your first in-person Partner Advisory Council for strategizing around 2025. So I wanted to ask a follow-up there. But can you maybe just give us a sense as to how much of the business is being driven from the channel today, what the overarching message to partners is around 2025, and maybe just talk about the channel internationally and where that sort of fits into those expansion plans? Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:00:55Yeah, for sure. Look, our partners are what have made Klaviyo the success it is today. We have a couple of different types. On the technology side, we mentioned a bunch of software and technology platforms that Klaviyo integrates with and partners with both on the product side and on the go-to-market side. We also have a vibrant ecosystem of developers that are building applications on top of the Klaviyo Data Platform to make it more useful to our customers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:01:30Next to our technology partners, we also have a lot of service partners, both marketing agencies. And now as we move up into the mid-market enterprise, increasingly, we're expanding our relationships with system integrators and SIs. And all of these different types, we think about, they really surround our customers to help make them successful and help amplify the value of our products. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:01:53So we've always had this approach of product-led and partner-led. So as we mentioned, as we're growing internationally, a big part of our motion is as we get product-market fit, we're also immediately looked to the local partners, both on the technology side and on the service side, who know our customers, can help tell us whether we're doing a good job, help introduce us, and drive demand. And so we're very excited about that. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:02:20We've made a lot of changes to our partner program in the last year to further incentivize and work better with our partner ecosystem. And this year, I'm very excited for both to expand the number of agency and SI relationships we have, as well as really double down on the developer community that's starting to build around Klaviyo. So I think that's going to help accelerate growth internationally. But frankly, here in the US, it's just going to help all aspects of our business. Operator01:02:46And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon and welcome to Klaviyo's Q4 and full year fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Andrew Zilli, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Andrew ZilliVP of Investor Relations at Klaviyo00:00:35Thanks. Good afternoon and thanks for joining Klaviyo's Q4 and full year 2024 earnings call. Our earnings press release, SEC filings, and a replay of today's call can be found on our IR website at investors.klaviyo.com. With me today on the call are Andrew Bialecki, Co-founder and CEO, and Amanda Whalen, CFO. As a reminder, our commentary today will include non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in today's earnings press release or earnings release supplemental materials, which can be found on our investor relations website. Andrew ZilliVP of Investor Relations at Klaviyo00:01:12Additionally, some of our comments today contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, which could change. Should any of these risks materialize, or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual company results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Andrew ZilliVP of Investor Relations at Klaviyo00:01:30A description of these risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, and other factors that could affect our financial results are included in our SEC filings, including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K filed today. We do not undertake any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements except as required by law. With that, I'll now turn it over to Andrew. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:01:53Thanks Zilli and thanks to everyone for joining us today. At Klaviyo, we empower more than 167,000 brands around the world to leverage their data to build personalized, lasting, and valuable consumer relationships across multiple channels. Our 2024 financial performance is a clear indication of our importance in driving revenue for our customers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:02:12We had a very strong finish to the year with $270 million in Q4 revenue, up 34% year-over-year, crossing a $1 billion revenue run rate as we delivered our strongest Black Friday Cyber Monday yet. For the full year, we grew our revenue by 34% to $937 million while driving nearly $150 million in free cash flow. I want to thank our partners and Klaviyans around the world for supporting our customers throughout the year, and thanks to all of our customers for choosing Klaviyo to help grow your business. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:02:44Before sharing highlights from the year, I want to touch on three defining themes for Klaviyo. First, we are a growth company, and we are executing well on our strategy to deliver sustainable, efficient, long-term growth by moving up market, expanding internationally, adding more customers, and growing with our existing customers. Second, our approach to data with the powerful Klaviyo Data Platform is a core differentiator and the backbone of our vertically integrated omnichannel platform that positions Klaviyo as a single source of truth for customers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:03:15And third, consumer expectations are shifting, and our data-first approach puts Klaviyo in an exceptional position to redefine the next era of consumer engagement. Now, turning to 2024 highlights, we continue to innovate and expand the capabilities of our platform, and our pace of innovation is a key driver of why companies continue to choose Klaviyo. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:03:38Across the company, our teams delivered more than 200 new features to help make our customers more successful and set Klaviyo apart in the market. On our marketing automation platform, we made it easier for marketers to get their jobs done faster with scheduled flows and automated campaign follow-ups. We launched a campaigns library and expanded our suite of AI functionality with features like Text AI and Email AI to inspire creativity and make it easier to create content. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:04:06And we made SMS audience acquisition more effective by using one-time codes with SMS Smart Opt-in forms. Speaking of SMS, we now have SMS coverage in 19 countries, great progress in helping our customers reach their consumers around the globe. We also enhanced our platform's next-generation analytics capabilities with tools like product analysis to empower marketers with real-time insights that optimize merchandising strategies and post-purchase outreach. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:04:37We launched the RFM Action Center, which uses recency, frequency, and monetary value analysis to provide actionable recommendations for retention, repeat purchases, and loyalty. These expanded analytics capabilities help customers address the challenges of fragmented data and disconnected tools and more efficiently put their data to work. Growing our presence internationally remains a top priority for Klaviyo, and we made great progress in 2024. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:05:04We made our platform and customer help center available in six additional languages while launching local language websites and marketing efforts in certain regions. We hosted our Klaviyo London event, continued expanding our team in Europe, and recently opened up a new Dublin office where we will build out a larger presence going forward. Ecosystem-led growth through strong partners and integration is key to our success, and our partnership team continues to drive great results. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:05:33We launched a number of new integrations with companies like Canva, Pinterest, Toast, and others, and added features like the Universal Content API to make it even easier for partners to work with Klaviyo. We also held our first in-person Partner Advisory Council, bringing together leaders from across our partner ecosystem to discuss and gather feedback on our 2025 strategy, evolution of the platform, and roadmaps to take us forward. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:05:59And as we announced a few weeks ago, we signed a great partnership with Woo, making Klaviyo the preferred marketing automation partner for WooCommerce, replacing an older newsletter software. With Klaviyo's built-in data platform and WooCommerce's flexibility, our joint customers have everything they need to build direct connections with their consumers and thrive in a competitive commerce landscape. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:06:24This partnership represents an important step in our expansion internationally into new markets in retail and beyond retail to support a diverse range of businesses, from content creators to web developers who are fostering communities and delivering value in unique ways. Companies of all sizes are coming to Klaviyo, whether a brand new business or a large established brand needing to modernize and consolidate their tech stack. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:06:49Because our platform is vertically integrated, easy to use, flexible, and capable of handling even the most difficult use cases. Having a unified view of the consumer is important to customers of all sizes, especially in the higher end of the market. Clarks, the iconic British shoe brand, chose Klaviyo to consolidate their tech stack with our vertically integrated platform with help from our new partner, AbsoluteLabs. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:07:16They were using multiple vendors that required batch processing every 24 hours, making it difficult to build real-time segmentation and marketing campaigns. With Klaviyo, they are combining data across channels, including point of sale and e-commerce data, allowing them to leverage segmentation, omnichannel personalization, and cutting-edge AI capabilities. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:07:36Grunt Style, a national patriotic apparel brand, moved to Klaviyo in the Q4 due to our fully integrated platform. Despite being one of the largest customers for their prior vendor, they were unable to run the analytics they needed and even debated building their own CDP. Instead, they chose Klaviyo, enabling them to centralize their consumer data, run advanced analytics, and leverage the insights into omnichannel engagement. Omnichannel campaigns are extremely important as companies need to reach consumers over their preferred channels. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:08:11Every Man Jack, a men's personal care and grooming company, added Klaviyo SMS, moving away from their prior vendor ahead of Black Friday Cyber Monday. Every Man Jack saw the value in leveraging a single data platform to power their omnichannel communications, allowing them to build more personal digital relationships and a more efficient marketing strategy. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:08:31We continue to expand across verticals and regions, and customers with complex business models choose Klaviyo to further their digital strategy. Parramatta Eels, a rugby team in Australia, switched to Klaviyo to find a trusted data and marketing solution that was easy to use for their small marketing team, allowing them to drive more engaging and relevant personalized communications. We also signed new or expansion deals in Q4 with DKNY, Ted Baker, BarkBox, CorePower Yoga, INTRO Travel, Motor Culture, Reebok, Champion, and more. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:09:10These customers represent different products and services, but they come to Klaviyo with the same challenges. They're struggling to meet rising consumer demand while using disconnected systems and channel-first tools. Small marketing teams are under pressure to deliver personalized experiences at scale. Siloed data makes it hard to create smart segmentation, measure what's working, and automate easily. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:09:33There are software solutions built for B2B businesses designed for human-powered and slower sales motions, but no solution has truly tackled the challenges facing consumer businesses. No CRM platform has delivered the power needed to manage millions of fast-moving consumer interactions across multiple channels in one place until now. Klaviyo started as a database, a place for brands to understand and activate their data. We transformed email marketing from batch and blast to data-driven campaigns. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:10:06Over the last 13 years, we've expanded our marketing automation suite, solidifying Klaviyo as the leading platform for powering digital relationships. But we've always planned to extend what we did for marketing to other surfaces and aspects of the customer journey. The most successful consumer businesses today are creating personalized experiences by unifying their channels and data across every touchpoint. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:10:28This new standard for consumer engagement requires integrated marketing built on an embedded data platform powered by AI and analytics. Klaviyo is uniquely positioned to drive this new era of consumer engagement. As we look ahead, our vision is to expand our scope to power and improve even more of the consumer journey, helping brands deliver omnichannel experiences that fuel growth. In fact, our customers are already asking for us to play a bigger role in how they engage with their consumers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:10:55Built for the speed and scale of the consumer world, Klaviyo's data-first approach gives us the distinct advantage to meet the demands of this market and category in marketing and beyond. Tomorrow afternoon, we'll be hosting a Built for B2C event, which will be live-streamed starting at 4:00PM Eastern. Head to klaviyo.com to register for the event and tune in to learn more about how Klaviyo is powering the next era of consumer engagement. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:11:21I'm extremely proud of the progress we made in 2024. Our vertically integrated data-centric platform is a key differentiator that positions Klaviyo to redefine consumer engagement. The product and platform we are delivering sets the stage for our growth not only in 2025, but for the next several years as we continue to execute on our growth levers and deliver the best platform for our customers. Thanks to the over 2,000 Klaviyos for their relentless focus on our customers in 2024, and with that, I'll turn it over to Amanda. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:11:54Thanks, Andrew. Klaviyo delivered another quarter of strong financial performance in Q4 to close out a great year as we continue to deliver efficient growth at scale. In the Q4, revenue grew 34% year-over-year to $270 million. Non-GAAP operating margin was 6%, and free cash flow was $54 million, up 57% year-over-year. For the full year, we delivered revenue of $937 million, up 34% year-over-year, with a non-GAAP operating margin of 12%, delivering well above the Rule of 40. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:12:33We're very proud of these results as we continue to deliver both growth and profitability at scale. Andrew discussed several key themes earlier, and these results are evidence that our data-first approach is resonating and we are executing well on our growth strategy. We are adding new customers, growing in the mid-market, expanding with existing customers, and expanding internationally. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:13:00In Q4, we added over 10,000 new customers, and we now have more than 167,000 customers, up 17% year-over-year. We continue to see strength in the low and high end of the market, and notably, we started to see some stabilization in the SMB space as the number of new SMB customers improved quarter over quarter. We acknowledge that this may be partially driven by the heightened demand during the holiday season, but it is an encouraging sign nonetheless. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:13:30Our Q4 revenue came in stronger than expected. Driven by the continued high value, our customers realized from our platform during the holiday shopping season. The pricing changes we made back in April related to prorated billing also benefited revenue in the mid-single-digit millions of dollars, though a majority of that was included in our guidance. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:13:54Our investments to move up market continued to show success as we ended Q4 with 2,850 customers generating over $50,000 in ARR, up 46% year-over-year. We had another strong quarter of adding new customers in this cohort, continuing the trend of landing larger customers from day one. We continue to drive expansion with our existing customers as they grow their usage and add new products, as can be seen in our dollar-based net revenue retention rate, or NRR, which was 108% for the quarter. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:14:31Notably, our in-period NRR stabilized from Q3 to Q4, so while I don't want to call a floor based on two data points, it's good to see some stability in that NRR metric. Our cross-sell motion continues to deliver strong results, especially with email customers adding SMS. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:14:50As of year-end, Klaviyo SMS is used by more than 18% of our total customers and more than 26% of our combined SMB and mid-market customers. Going forward, we will only be disclosing the combined SMB and mid-market SMS attach rate, as we believe that is a better indication of our traction in this product. We'll continue to provide this update on an annual basis. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:15:15As you heard from Andrew, we made tremendous progress this year in our international expansion on both the go-to-market and product fronts. In Q4, EMEA revenue growth accelerated to 49% year-over-year, notable strength in France, Germany, and the Nordics, while our combined international revenue grew 42% year-over-year. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:15:41Moving on, Q4 non-GAAP gross margin was 74%, down approximately 5 points year-over-year, primarily due to increased infrastructure costs in support of the holiday season, continued growth of our SMS product, and to a lesser extent, our new employee bonus program. For the full year, non-GAAP gross margin was 77%, down about 1 point from last year. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:16:08Turning to non-GAAP operating expenses, each line item increased as a percentage of revenue from Q3 as a result of the impact of the full-year accrual related to the new employee bonus program that was recognized in Q4. Aside from that impact, R&D was slightly higher as a result of additional expenses to support our Black Friday Cyber Monday infrastructure. In G&A, we had an additional international tax-related reserve release, similar to prior quarters, that offset some of the employee bonus impact. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:16:44Going forward, we do not expect any additional tax-related reserve releases that would have a material impact on our G&A line. For the Q4, our Non-GAAP operating income was $15 million, representing a Non-GAAP operating margin of 5.6%. This was better than expected, primarily as a result of the revenue upside we saw in the quarter. For the full year, Non-GAAP operating income was $113 million, for a Non-GAAP operating margin of 12%. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:17:15We generated free cash flow of $54 million during the quarter, up 57% year-over-year, and $149 million for the year, up 35% from the prior year due to both higher operating income and interest income. Before I get to guidance, let me discuss some pricing updates that went live yesterday. Klaviyo introduced new pricing features that our customers have been asking for, including auto downgrade and flexible sending options. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:17:48In addition, we are recommitting to our original pricing intent to enforce pricing based on active profiles because we believe in the value of the consumer profile and the power of the data it contains. Customers who are out of compliance will be moved to a compliant plan, and in the spirit of being customer-friendly, we are limiting price increases to a maximum of 25%. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:18:12Importantly, most customers are not expected to see a pricing increase as a result of these changes. That said, we do anticipate some incremental churn, which may impact customer accounts in Q1. These changes are expected to generate minimal benefit to full-year revenue. Very importantly, though, they will reduce pricing friction for our customers and better position us for the future. As we move to 2025, our priorities as a growth company remain consistent. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:18:44We will continue to invest behind adding new customers, expanding internationally, moving up market, and expanding with existing customers. Our investments in 2025 will largely be aligned with these priorities. In addition, we are planning incremental investments in supporting our expansion into new products as well as new verticals. From a capital allocation perspective, we anticipate 2025 will be similar to 2024. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:19:13As growth is our top priority, we are confident that the investments we're making today will support our efforts to drive long-term sustainable growth. Now turning to guidance. For Q1, we expect revenue of $265 to 269 million, representing year-over-year growth of 26% to 28%, driven by continued strength up market and internationally. This guidance also takes into account the seasonality of our business from Q4 to Q1, as well as our expectations for a smaller benefit from the prorated billing changes than we saw in Q4. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:19:53We expect Q1 non-GAAP operating income of $25.5 to 28.5 million, representing a non-GAAP operating margin of 10% to 11%. This guidance includes an expected increase in our Q1 marketing spend, including our product event tomorrow and additional demand generation investments that will take place earlier in the year. Additionally, you'll recall that we accrued the entire 2024 employee bonus expense in Q4, but going forward, it will be accrued in each quarter. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:20:27As a result, you should expect non-GAAP operating margin to be down mid-single digits year-over-year for each of the first three quarters and up year-over-year in the Q4. While we don't provide guidance for gross margin or cash flow, I want to highlight a few items that will impact our Q1 performance. First, we plan to make additional infrastructure investments to support our growing cohort of larger customers. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:20:55While these investments will scale over time, we expect it will result in Q1 gross margin coming in slightly below our 2024 gross margin of 77%. Second, regarding Q1 cash flow, as you build your models, there are two factors to consider. One is that the payment related to our employee bonus program will go out in Q1. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:21:17In addition, we'll see the seasonal reset of some payroll-related items, such as Social Security tax, which typically have a greater impact in the first half of the year. As a result, we expect our Q1 Free Cash Flow will be negative. As we look to the full year, we are taking into account not only the trends in our own business, some of which are starting to stabilize, but also the broader environment. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:21:44We are cautiously optimistic about the improving external small business sentiment, but we are not yet assuming meaningful improvement in our guidance until we see a sustained change in purchasing behavior. With that said, for the full year 2025, we are initiating revenue guidance of $1.156 to 1.164 billion for year-over-year growth of 23% to 24%, consistent with the expectations we set on our Q3 call. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:22:14We expect non-GAAP operating income of $130 to 136 million, representing a non-GAAP operating margin of 11% to 12%. Because of the impact of the bonus accrual, as well as timing of marketing spending, we expect this year's operating income linearity to look different from last year, with our annual operating income lighter in the first three quarters and more heavily weighted in Q4. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:22:42As we discussed on our Q3 call, our non-GAAP operating margin is roughly consistent to where we ended 2024, primarily driven by continued investments in the growth drivers I discussed previously. In closing, 2024 was a great year for Klaviyo. We are executing our growth strategy, continue to differentiate ourselves in the market with our vertically integrated Klaviyo Data Platform. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:23:08And we're excited to expand our scope to power and improve even more of the customer journey, helping brands deliver omnichannel experiences that fuel growth. We are well-positioned to continue delivering growth and profitability at scale as we continue to drive success for our customers. And with that, I'll open up the call for Q&A. Operator? Operator00:23:31Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. We ask that you limit yourself to one question to allow everyone an opportunity to ask a question. You may re-queue for a follow-up. We'll take our first question from Gabriela Borges at Goldman Sachs. Gabriela BorgesManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:23:59Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. AB and Amanda, I wanted to get a little bit more color on your mid-market pipeline. I'm thinking about the color that you've pretty consistently provided over the last year about the opportunity you see there. Could you give us maybe a little more clarification? How is the mid-market pipeline going? Gabriela BorgesManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Goldman Sachs00:24:21When I look at your data on customers greater than $50,000, that number has obviously been growing really nicely for a while. So how sustainable do you think the growth in that cohort is? And any other qualitative or quantitative commentary you're willing to provide would be helpful. Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:24:38Great. Thanks, Gabriela. Yeah, happy to talk about that. First off, we're very happy with both the results in terms of customer adds and revenue, as well as the pipeline and forward-looking demand that we're building in the mid-market segment and now increasingly also starting to be into that enterprise segment as well. The value prop that we have for our mid-market enterprise customers is very clear. We provide a data platform that allows them to pull all of their customer data into one place. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:25:09It connects with all of their systems and allows them to put that data to work in our marketing platform and other applications that they're using to deliver the customer experience. The fact that there's more complexity actually plays to our advantage. We can handle the scale, their security requirements. We also have the flexibility through our API-first design to support a lot of the use cases that those larger businesses have. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:25:34We're very excited about the growth that we've seen. Businesses like Clarks, Grunt Style, Reebok, Champion, and others all joined us in Q4. Like you commented on, we're very excited about the growth we've seen in the number of customers in that 50K cohort. One other thing that we're really excited about is we're seeing more of our mid-market customers adopt more of the Klaviyo product suite. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:25:57So our average revenue per customer in Q4 was up 15% year-over-year, which is another very strong indicator to us that there's good product market fit. So that's something that we're going to be investing in this year, always with an eye towards strong unit economics. And we think that's a very durable growth driver in 2025 and the next few years. Operator00:26:17We'll move next to Terry Tillman at Truist. Terry TillmanManaging Director at Truist00:26:22Yeah, hey, AB, Amanda, and Zilli. Thanks for taking my question. It might be a multi-parter, so just beware. About the up-market opportunity here, what I'm curious about is even the teams that are kind of building out the infrastructure. I'm curious about how much you're able to leverage PLG and kind of word of mouth as opposed to having to be more heavily outbound. And the second part is how ramped is the sales team? Is there any kind of natural ceiling right now up-market in terms of the size of customer? Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:26:54Sure. Thanks, Terry. First, on the PLG motion. That's how we build products. While we find that a lot of our mid-market enterprise customers, they still want. They have a conversation with us before actually buying. The way that we design Klaviyo is that it's so easy to pull data in, ingest it. It's easy to start to build out use cases. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:27:19It actually makes that evaluation process a lot faster and a lot smoother. In that sense, that PLG motion for us is lowering the cost of acquisition. Certainly, as we build up more social proof, more brands, we're also finding that there's a lot of mid-market enterprise businesses that are starting maybe with one brand and then spreading Klaviyo across their entire portfolio. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:27:42Then on the ramp on the sales team, this is something that we've been very thoughtful about. We've built up the demand in mid-market and now in enterprise. We've grown the sales team actually a little bit behind that demand to make sure that we're matching the demand with sales capacity. We did start to build sales capacity, especially in the US in 2024 for the mid-market segment. We're pleased with how that's going. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:28:08We mentioned we've also had some strong growth internationally. We're seeing actually increased demand in the mid-market and enterprise internationally, especially in Europe. That's a place that we're also planning to expand and grow sales capacity this year because now that we've internationalized the product and we've done some of the front marketing, we think that's another area where we can grow the mid-market business. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:28:34Terry, just building a little bit on what AB said, as you look to 2025, we've made good progress with the sales team who we hired in 2024. Therefore, we're going to continue to invest behind growing that quota-carrying capacity. Hiring sales teams who have a track record of strong success with mid-market and enterprise customers, investing in training behind them and really evolving the way that we sell and continuing to expand our partner ecosystem there as well. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:29:03Then to the last part of your question about what does the size of those customers, what is that looking like? Consistent with what we've spoken about before, these customers can be quite large. In the top 10, the average of our top 10 customers is north of $1.5 million of ARR. Certainly growing into some very significant relationships with these larger brands. Operator00:29:28We'll go next to DJ Hynes at Canaccord. DJ HynesSenior Analyst at Canaccord00:29:34Hey, guys. Congrats on the nice quarter. AB, I was wondering if you could update us on ARR overlap with the Shopify ecosystem, how that partnership is progressing from a lead flow perspective. And then you mentioned WooCommerce, but I'm curious if there are any other B2C ecosystem opportunities that seem promising as you guys kind of continue to diversify away from Shopify. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:29:59Yeah, sure. Okay, so let me take that in three parts. The first, Shopify. We've had a great experience working with Shopify. We really love working with the Shopify team. That obviously started with our product and the integration there. We've done a lot of work on that in the last year to make data flowing back and forth between folks that run on Klaviyo and Shopify easier, and as Shopify has converted more businesses to their platform, we found that those customers are also coming to Klaviyo. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:30:31Interestingly, we actually have a number of brands that have chosen to move to Klaviyo first and then have followed on by moving their e-commerce stack to Shopify. So our relationship there is very strong. I actually think it's a model for how we should work with other technology and software platforms. With WooCommerce, I think that offers a slightly different profile of customer. The WooCommerce customer base is over four million merchants using WooCommerce. It's more international. It's also the use cases are a little bit more varied. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:31:03It's a little bit you can customize because WooCommerce is open source, you can customize the WooCommerce platform more easily. So that actually helps us spread outside of, say, pure play e-commerce. And then finally, when it comes to new verticals and alternative use cases, we added a number of new integrations in 2024. That, again, are modeled off of our partnerships with Shopify and others. Integrations with Zenoti, Olo, OpenTable, Toast. And these are all meant to help Klaviyo. We really have good. We've got good product market fit with other use cases. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:31:39Connecting to those other services, I mean, one, it helps us on the go-to-market side. From a product perspective, it means that now that transaction data, say, for that restaurant or that yoga studio, it's easy for them to sync their data to Klaviyo. And what we're finding is good growth there. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:31:56We think we've got a couple of features for folks that have non-e-commerce use cases that we'll be releasing this year that we're excited about. We think we're going to grow organically with new verticals. It's not one of our top growth levers, but we're excited about the progress that we're making. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:32:12Just building a little bit on what AB was talking about, about the progress that we're making with Shopify and how we co-sell with them. We've been working on unifying our messaging, our account mapping, our enablement, and some of the evidence that that is working and that we are going to market together. Many of the large enterprise customers who Shopify has been speaking about are also strong Klaviyo customers as well. That's brands like Reebok and Champion and BarkBox. And so we're really excited to partner with them as we each continue to move into the mid-market and enterprise and beyond. Operator00:32:44We'll take our next question from Rob Oliver at Baird. Rob OliverSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:32:50Great. Good afternoon. Thanks, guys. On international, and AB touched on this a little bit in response to DJ's question, but I'd be curious to get an update from you guys on what you've seen on the ground in some of the geographies, such as France and others, that you've enabled in the back half of 2024. And then if you could just take a moment to update us on what the roadmap is in terms of additional either geos or languages for 2025 and how the Woo relationship may have either accelerated or changed that in any way. Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:33:22Sure. So 2024 was a great year for international. Our full-year international revenue grew 42%, and we're very happy with that. And kind of like you alluded to, we've tried to lay a lot of the foundation for growth internationally over the next couple of years. We expanded Klaviyo from being in one language, English, to now seven. We also took SMS, a product where we have to work with local regulators and telcos. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:33:51We've expanded that now to 19 countries. And that actually gives us an enormous amount of coverage of the European market and growing parts of Asia, so built on top of that, we're focused on building out teams that are localized to those countries. Germany, France, Spain, Italy are all places where we're going to hire local language-speaking sales and support to help us support growth there. We're also working on partnerships that are more regionally oriented. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:34:21So folks like PrestaShop, Think Digital, Oz, and others are helping us expand our partner-led motion outside of the US. So you add all that up, I think we don't feel that we need to introduce more languages or increase our coverage of SMS dramatically this year to support accelerated growth international. Now, we'll continue to evaluate those as we see opportunities. But I think we've done a lot of the heavy lifting on the product side in 2024, which is going to help support accelerated growth or large growth in 2025. Operator00:34:56We'll take our next question from Elizabeth Porter at Morgan Stanley. Elizabeth PorterSVP at Morgan Stanley00:35:02Great. Thank you so much for the question. I wanted to touch on the NRR, where you mentioned seeing some stabilization in the end quarter metric. And I understand it's just too early to call a bottom. Would love to better understand just the behavior that you're seeing. Elizabeth PorterSVP at Morgan Stanley00:35:18Sounds like gross retention has been strong for a while. So any sort of incremental clarity on where you're seeing the improvements, either cross-sell or expansion? And then when we should think about the point in time that we start to lap some easier compares. Thank you. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:35:31Thanks, Elizabeth. Yes, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we did see stabilization in the end period NRR from Q3 to Q4, which is encouraging. Now, we're not ready to draw too many conclusions from two data points at this point, but as I said, we're cautiously optimistic as we look forward to 2025. Breaking down NRR into its individual components, as you said, gross retention remains consistent and strong. Once customers are on the Klaviyo platform and they see the value and the ROI and the revenue that we are driving for their business, the platform is incredibly sticky. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:36:09On stabilization, we are, sorry, on expansion, we are seeing some stabilization in the expansion trends. And then we're continuing to make good progress on cross-sell efforts. And you can see that and that progress in the growth and the number of customers who we have who are using SMS. And then also, as a reminder, this is the first full quarter that we've had without any impact from the 2022 pricing changes that have impacted NRR for the last couple of years. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:36:34And so certainly, lapping that contributes to the stabilization as well. But overall, we're confident that as we continue to add tremendous value to companies and we continue to expand our product portfolio, customers are going to continue to expand their business in turn with us. And so our focus remains on delivering value for our customers, making it easier for them to put Klaviyo to work in driving revenue and building those lasting consumer relationships. Elizabeth PorterSVP at Morgan Stanley00:36:59Great. Thank you. Operator00:37:01Next question comes from Arjun Bhatia at William Blair. Arjun BhatiaPartner and Co-Group Head at William Blair00:37:06Thank you. And congrats here on the nice Q4. AB, if I can come back to you, I just on the product side, you talked quite a bit about where the platform might expand to next. You clearly have kind of a foundational data layer built out, and you've built on top of it, obviously, with marketing. But as you're thinking of product evolution, what are you prioritizing? And is that something that we should expect this year, or is that kind of a longer-term, more kind of ambitious product roadmap that you've laid out? Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:37:43Yeah, that's great. So let me touch on three things that we're focused on when it comes to our products. The first is embedding artificial intelligence across the different layers of the Klaviyo stack. Now, we've talked about the data platform that Klaviyo is built on and this being the central source of truth for all your consumer data, pulling that in from all different sources, and then making that data actionable. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:38:11We've done a great job of building artificial intelligence there in terms of predictive capabilities about what each consumer is going to do next. You can think about this as product recommendations, predicting next action. And we're now extending that to other parts of the Klaviyo platform, including like, "Hey, what kinds of marketing campaigns should you run next?" So not just on an individual basis, but also in aggregate. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:38:34So what we're doing with AI is we think we can embed it across our data platform as well as inside of our marketing application and other products. And that's going to be, that's really going to help our customers accelerate their revenue growth with Klaviyo, what we call KAV. And that's going to provide a lot of additional value, which in the future we can look to monetize. So that's number one for us. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:38:56Number two is doubling down on being the source of truth for our customers. We've built out a lot of scale in our data platform. We're increasing the number of connectors. We mentioned some of the other integrations, the other data sets that we're incorporating. We're also building more tooling to allow people to manipulate and use that data outside of Klaviyo. I'm very excited about this. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:39:19I think every consumer business is going to need a data platform that is their real-time source of truth on what consumers are up to and can connect to every application that helps create and deliver customer experiences. So we're building that kind of core infrastructure, and we're excited about the trajectory there. And then finally, when it comes to the applications that sit on top of this data platform, we obviously started with marketing, and we're very excited about the progress we're making there across email, SMS, and now mobile. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:39:51We have a point of view that we're going to make the data and AI embedded in each of those applications and each of those channels. But also, we want to build best-in-class creative tools. Sometimes they're tools for our users to use. Sometimes they're through generate AI. We want to create best-in-class content creation, best-in-class deliverability. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:40:08We're actually now starting in marketing to build products or features that will help you work across channels. Now deciding, "Hey, does this consumer, does this message, does it make sense to send over email, over SMS, over mobile, in the future, other channels like WhatsApp or other messaging platforms?" We've built the intelligence. We're building the intelligence to do that automatically to drive ROI. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:40:31As part of extending beyond our channels, we're also thinking about other parts of the customer experience that Klaviyo can have an impact on. I mentioned tomorrow we've got a bunch of product releases coming, so I won't steal all the news from that. I think if you think about the entire customer experience, marketing is just one piece of that. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:40:51When we think about what it means to drive the customer experience, be the complete CRM and data platform for the businesses we're serving, I think there are use cases beyond just marketing that Klaviyo can help power. We're excited to. We're building a lot of product and excited to invest there as well. Operator00:41:08We'll move next to Brent Bracelin at Piper Sandler. Brent BracelinHead of Technology Equity Capital Markets at Piper Sandler00:41:14Thank you. Good afternoon. AB, Amanda, I wanted to double-click into the customer logo growth. It accelerated to 17% for the first time in a couple of years. Could you walk through the puts and takes on customer growth expectations in the coming year? I think, Amanda, you talked about new simplified pricing potentially driving some churn. On the other hand, you have this new WooCommerce partnership and international going strong that could possibly offset that. Brent BracelinHead of Technology Equity Capital Markets at Piper Sandler00:41:45So are we thinking about mid-teens logo growth, or could simplified pricing be a bigger impact on the entrepreneur part of the business, and we should be thinking closer to low-teens growth for customers? Any color there would be helpful. Thanks. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:42:02Thanks, Brent. Yes, we're very proud that we added over 10,000 net new customers in Q4. And what we saw in Q4 was strength across all of our customer cohorts. So now, as you recall, the largest number of our customer adds tends to come from our entrepreneur customers. And in that group, we saw strong results coming from our marketing team's efforts to really target those and bring them into the Klaviyo family. On the high end, we had a near record high number of new lands in our greater than 50K cohort. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:42:35And then also in the middle, as we mentioned on the call, we also saw strong quarter on quarter growth in SMB net adds as well. The key driver for it is that we continue to drive great value for our customers. And so, as a result, the Klaviyo platform is really being seen as the standard for B2C businesses. Now, customer adds is not necessarily a number that we guide to specifically, but maybe as you think about some of the puts and takes for the year and how the linearity might play out. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:43:05In Q1, based on the seasonality of the business, we typically see lighter Q1 customer adds in general. And then additionally, as I mentioned in my remarks, we are expecting a modest increase in churn as a result of the new pricing enforcement. And so that may impact our total customer count in Q1. But over time, we continue to see adding new customers as a key lever for our growth, along with expanding existing customers, growing in the mid-market, and growing internationally. Operator00:43:33We'll go next to Raimo Lenschow at Barclays. Raimo LenschowManaging Director at Barclays00:43:39Perfect. Thank you. Congrats from me as well. First question on going back to WooCommerce. If you think about it, the strategy was a little bit moving upmarket over the last few quarters. WooCommerce looks is more like downmarket in my view. How do I have to think about it? Is this like a new path now? Is it just broadening of the strategy? How should we think about it? And then I had one follow-up for Amanda. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:44:03Sure. Sorry I need to comment that. The reality is we've had a pre-existing partnership with the Woo and WooCommerce team. We already have over 15,000 brands that are using Klaviyo and WooCommerce together. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:44:19We think there's an opportunity for that to be much larger. So I think we're being very opportunistic here, where we've got good product-market fit. And I think we worked with the Woo team. I think we think our two products can work really well together. We can help those WooCommerce businesses be even more successful. And look, I think this is a little bit of a nod to what we've done, what Klaviyo has done for e-commerce businesses worldwide, both for entrepreneurs and in the enterprise. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:44:48I think we're starting to reach a kind of default status. And so we're very. I think this kind of proves that. And we ultimately think that we can serve folks from when they're just starting out to when they're scaling to be one of the iconic brands of our time. So yeah, I think we can do both at the same time. We're very excited about this partnership. Raimo LenschowManaging Director at Barclays00:45:09Okay. Perfect. And then for Amanda, can you talk a little bit about the new offer or the decision to offer auto downgrades for customers? Can you provide some color on the mechanics here and how that might impact Q4, Q1 numbers as well? Thank you. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:45:25Thanks, Raimo. Yeah. As we shared in the remarks, we made a few changes to pricing that were effective yesterday, including flexible sending for email and SMS and an auto downgrade option. And what that auto downgrade option does is it checks whether a customer's profile count qualifies them for a lower plan. And if it does, then it moves them down automatically. Those were features that our customers had been requesting for a while. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:45:52We are committed to removing friction in the process so that our customers have Klaviyo be as easy to buy as it is easy to use. And so adding those two new features was an important part of being responsive to customers and making sure that we're just removing that friction from the process for them. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:46:10The other change that we made is recommitting to our pricing intent to enforce pricing based on active profiles because customers drive value from the data that they store with Klaviyo. And so pricing based on profiles and making sure that we're consistent in how we enforce on that is an important part of committing to that value that our customers are driving from Klaviyo. Now, a couple of things to note on it. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:46:35One is that I mentioned that the majority of customers are not expected to see a pricing change because of any of these changes because they're already on a plan that is appropriate for the number of profiles that they're storing with us. And then for those customers who do see a change, regardless of how many profiles they're storing with us, in the spirit of being customer-friendly, we're limiting price increases to a maximum of 25%. We did see a slight uptick in churn in January after this was announced. That was expected based on our experience with pricing pilots that we ran leading up to these changes. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:47:11And so if you think about what is the impact for this for the full year, if you take into account all of these factors, the uplift from pricing enforcement, offset by a small amount of churn, and then as well as some expansion impacts that come from the introduction of auto downgrades and flex pricing. Overall, we're assuming a minimal overall revenue benefit for the year. But most importantly, what these changes do is they reduce friction for our customers. They anchor our pricing in the unique value that Klaviyo drives through data. And both of these changes tee us up well for the future. Operator00:47:48We'll move next to Derrick Wood at TD Cowen. Derrick WoodManaging Director at TD Cowen00:47:53Great. Thanks. And congrats on a great quarter. AB, it sounds like you've made great strides in expanding the number of countries you can deliver SMS in. Just how should we think about the revenue unlock? I mean, is there a lot of pent-up demand? So quickly after you turn this on in new countries, you'll see some incremental revenue conversion, or is this something that now you start a new sales cycle and start looking to cross-sell in these new countries and expect dividends to come down the pike over the next six, nine, 12 months? Just curious about the go-to-market now that you've expanded the countries. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:48:30Sure. I think it's probably a mix of both. What we found actually as we've expanded SMS coverage to a number of predominantly European markets, we have found a lot of customers that were actually kind of waiting for Klaviyo to have support for the countries and regions they care about. So I do think there's sort of an initial kind of uptick in SMS demand from customers from that. At the same time, sometimes folks have existing SMS programs, and it takes them some time to migrate off. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:49:04Maybe they're waiting for a contract to renew. So I do think there also will be a long-term benefit to this. And with SMS in our go-to-market strategy. What we focus on is. We'll take Europe as an example. As we grow internationally, we're finding a lot more of the businesses we're working with, they're cross-border, they're multi-region, multi-country businesses. And so having SMS support that spans a large percentage of their customer base, if it's not 100%, it's very high, makes a big difference. Because when folks want to invest in an SMS program, they typically want to do it in a way that is comprehensive. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:49:43And I think the SMS coverage plus some of the other things that we're building for international customers, capabilities that make it easier to send campaigns and do marketing in multiple languages without a lot of extra work, work with product catalogs, inventory that's cross-border where pricing may be different. We've built a lot of that functionality directly in the Klaviyo. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:50:07I think you add that all up, and that's giving us the opportunity to both go after more businesses that, say, want to expand their SMS program, but also just want to use Klaviyo generally. And now we can help support them as they market globally, right, across the entire region or even around the world. So I'm very excited about the opportunity to unlock. And that's one of the reasons that I called out. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:50:30In the mid-market enterprise, we're actually seeing an increased demand internationally because a lot of those businesses, I mean, they tend to be multi-country. And we think we've really done some good work to get better product-market fit for those customers. Operator00:50:43We'll take our next question from Scott Berg at Needham. Scott BergSenior Analyst at Needham00:50:48Hi everyone. Thanks for taking my question during next quarter. I just wanted to follow up on the WooCommerce partnership, on the press release on it, and the commentary. Didn't hear anything along the lines of, I don't know, maybe any financial incentives or any sort of terms of, I guess, engagement, how you all are working together. Preferred partnership can mean a lot of things, but maybe help us to understand what the commitment level of both companies are, whether it's on a financial basis or maybe it's something else, maybe from a, I don't know, technology perspective. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:51:23Yeah. Thanks for the question, Scott. So in terms of the financial arrangements of the partnership, as you would expect, there's a revenue share component to it. We are not disclosing the specific details to it, but it's typical for these types of agreements to come with a revenue share agreement. There is no equity associated with the partnership. So that's an important part to note there. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:51:43In terms of overall, we're really excited to be named their preferred marketing automation provider. So now when brands join WooCommerce or for existing brands, we are their recommended partner. Saying that Klaviyo is a company who we believe in, who can help brands continue to grow and expand their customer base and build those ongoing strong relationships with their customers. We think that together we can provide a better experience for our joint customers. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:52:12And there are 4 million merchant brands who use WooCommerce around the globe, not only in retail, but as Andrew mentioned earlier, in services and in content. And so we're really excited about the opportunity that partnership opens up for local growth and then also for international and new vertical growth as well. Operator00:52:30Next, we'll go to Mark Zgutowicz at Cantor Fitzgerald. I apologize. With Benchmark. Mark ZgutowiczResearch Analyst at Benchmark00:52:40Thank you. Maybe just a macro question if I could. A lot of good fundamental questions have already been asked. Curious on the tariff front, kind of a fluid situation right now. I'm curious if you've anticipated any downstream impacts or have heard anything from any of your customers in terms of any disruption there. Thanks. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:53:06Thanks for the question. We are monitoring the geopolitical landscape as everyone is these days. But as of now, we don't expect the tariffs would impact us directly. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:53:18As you spoke about downstream implications, some of our customers may be impacted. But if they are, we're confident that they're going to continue to use Klaviyo because what our platform does is we help them efficiently drive revenue and build lasting relationships with their consumers through all economic cycles. Operator00:53:35We'll move next to Brett Knoblauch at Cantor Fitzgerald. Brett KnoblauchHead of Digital Asset Research at Cantor Fitzgerald00:53:43Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe to start, as you look at maybe the SMS adoption or increased adoption throughout the year going from 16 to 18.2, is that about what you would have expected going into the year? Did you overachieve, meet, underachieve expectations with regard to that? Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:54:06Yeah, I can take this. Look, we'd always like to grow that faster. I think probably the, but we're very happy with the adoption rate we've seen. One thing that we want to reiterate is, I think, that aggregate metric is useful, but going forward, we're going to be disclosing the attach rate for SMS with our SMB customers and above, and that was 26% in Q4. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:54:34We feel that that SMB and up, rather than the segment that we call entrepreneurs as the smaller small-medium-sized businesses, it's actually more indicative of our success. What we found is that for a lot of businesses, when they're just getting started, SMS isn't relevant right away or not for all of those businesses, so we want every business to connect with consumers over the channels that are relevant that those consumers are interested in, that business wants to provide. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:55:05What we found for a lot of the smallest businesses, as they're getting going, they have so much going on that until their SMS program is kind of entirely automated, it actually makes sense to just focus on the core channel, which typically ends up being email. We're happy with that. I think that that percentage will continue to grow. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:55:24We've done a lot of work. I mentioned some of the work we've done on SMS to expand international coverage. We're also doing a lot of work on the SMS product side. I'm very proud of our team for all of the product features we released around SMS this year, and we've actually got a lot more coming even in the next few months to make our SMS product really best in class. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:55:45The last thing I'll say is, I think SMS as a channel is going to get more interesting over the next 12, 24 months as SMS gets upgraded to a new standard called RCS that actually allows for a lot richer types of experiences being delivered through text message, through mobile messaging. We're very excited about some of the work that we're doing to allow our customers to use that new technology and get in front of this. We think that's going to have a positive impact on customer engagement, which should additionally help drive more adoption. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:56:19Just building a little bit on what AB said, one of the reasons that we're so upbeat about SMS is that we see the benefit it drives for our customers. So when an email customer adds SMS, not only do they get the additional KAV, that Klaviyo Attributed Value and revenue from SMS, but they also see a direct uplift in their email-specific KAV. So it shows that these two channels are better together. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:56:44And in fact, Klaviyo customers who added SMS to their marketing strategy during Black Friday, Cyber Monday this year experienced a 20% increase in their e-commerce revenue year on year. And one of our favorite examples, a customer who came to us for SMS this past quarter, is CorePower Yoga. They were a prior customer of ours, a nationwide yoga studio with over 200 locations. They're a great customer, and they expanded with us in SMS because they were facing challenges with, as many of our customers experience, a broken tech stack. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:57:17They were batching and blasting anyone who signed up for their marketing, which led to a high number of unsubscribes. And so we are now partnering together. And with Klaviyo, they're going to be able to leverage detailed customer data to make smarter sending decisions, which will reduce unsubscribes and help enhance their brand growth. Operator00:57:35We'll go next to Michael Berg at Wells Fargo. Michael BergVP at Wells Fargo00:57:40Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I'll ask quickly here for Amanda. Just double-clicking on the pricing mechanism changes. Have you worked through most of the installed base already, but given this monthly contract and you announced it about a month or so ago? And just from a functional standpoint, how can you think about how that works from how a customer finds out if they're in compliance versus not? And maybe just squeeze one more in there. Longer term, philosophically, how do you think about pricing here given a competitive end market, but obviously a highly value-added product? Thank you. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:58:17Sure. I'll start with how does it wind its way through our customer base. So we announced this to our customer base a month ago to give everyone a heads-up that this change was coming, and then the pricing change and all of these changes went into effect yesterday, and so customers who are on monthly billing cycles, it will go into effect for each of them at the point where their monthly billing cycle renews. So that will happen over the course of the next month. As part of the announcement a month ago, we did let customers know, "Here's where your profiles are today. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:58:54Here's the plan that you're on and how those two compare and what the implication for you personally would be based on the appropriate pricing tier for you to be on, as well as the appreciation discount that we are giving, which limits any pricing change for an individual customer to no more than 25%. And then importantly, as AB said, part of what we're doing through this is also educating and working with our customers on what are the profiles who they want to keep in their database. Amanda WhalenCFO at Klaviyo00:59:24Who are those engaged customers, how do they keep them appropriately engaged, and then if customers are becoming unengaged, what's the right way to manage their profile list. And we've put in place tools to make it easy for our customers to manage their profile list on an ongoing basis. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo00:59:40Yeah. And let me just add on the philosophy side. Look, we very much believe in building best-in-class premium products, but having a pricing model that's very approachable for our customers. So as we iterate on pricing, it's always with that in mind. We want to make our products easy to adopt, easy to use more of, and we try to align our pricing axes to whatever that value metric is for the specific products. So for both email and SMS, I think we're making some very positive changes for our customers here that are in response to a lot of the feedback that we've had from them over the last couple of months and even the last year or two. Operator01:00:20We'll take our final question today from Nick Altmann at Scotiabank. Nick AltmannDirector of Equity Research at Scotiabank01:00:24Awesome. Thank you so much. AB, you mentioned you held your first in-person Partner Advisory Council for strategizing around 2025. So I wanted to ask a follow-up there. But can you maybe just give us a sense as to how much of the business is being driven from the channel today, what the overarching message to partners is around 2025, and maybe just talk about the channel internationally and where that sort of fits into those expansion plans? Thank you. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:00:55Yeah, for sure. Look, our partners are what have made Klaviyo the success it is today. We have a couple of different types. On the technology side, we mentioned a bunch of software and technology platforms that Klaviyo integrates with and partners with both on the product side and on the go-to-market side. We also have a vibrant ecosystem of developers that are building applications on top of the Klaviyo Data Platform to make it more useful to our customers. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:01:30Next to our technology partners, we also have a lot of service partners, both marketing agencies. And now as we move up into the mid-market enterprise, increasingly, we're expanding our relationships with system integrators and SIs. And all of these different types, we think about, they really surround our customers to help make them successful and help amplify the value of our products. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:01:53So we've always had this approach of product-led and partner-led. So as we mentioned, as we're growing internationally, a big part of our motion is as we get product-market fit, we're also immediately looked to the local partners, both on the technology side and on the service side, who know our customers, can help tell us whether we're doing a good job, help introduce us, and drive demand. And so we're very excited about that. Andrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEO at Klaviyo01:02:20We've made a lot of changes to our partner program in the last year to further incentivize and work better with our partner ecosystem. And this year, I'm very excited for both to expand the number of agency and SI relationships we have, as well as really double down on the developer community that's starting to build around Klaviyo. So I think that's going to help accelerate growth internationally. But frankly, here in the US, it's just going to help all aspects of our business. Operator01:02:46And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesAmanda WhalenCFOAndrew ZilliVP of Investor RelationsAndrew BialeckiCo-founder and CEOAnalystsNick AltmannDirector of Equity Research at ScotiabankArjun BhatiaPartner and Co-Group Head at William BlairRob OliverSenior Research Analyst at BairdGabriela BorgesManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Goldman SachsMark ZgutowiczResearch Analyst at BenchmarkBrett KnoblauchHead of Digital Asset Research at Cantor FitzgeraldMichael BergVP at Wells FargoElizabeth PorterSVP at Morgan StanleyScott BergSenior Analyst at NeedhamBrent BracelinHead of Technology Equity Capital Markets at Piper SandlerTerry TillmanManaging Director at TruistRaimo LenschowManaging Director at BarclaysDerrick WoodManaging Director at TD CowenDJ HynesSenior Analyst at CanaccordPowered by