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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Main Street Capital EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.01Consensus EPS $1.00Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPSN/AMain Street Capital Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$137.05 millionExpected Revenue$137.50 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$450.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AMain Street Capital Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/8/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, May 9, 2025Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsMain Street Capital's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, November 5, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, November 6, 2026 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Main Street Capital Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 9, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Main Street delivered an annualized 16.5% return on equity, set an 11th consecutive record for NAV per share at $32.03, and its DNII per share of $1.07 continued to exceed dividends paid. The company realized over $55 million in gains from the exit of Heritage Vet Partners, demonstrating its ability to generate best-in-class returns on lower middle market equity investments. Main Street declared a $0.30 per share supplemental dividend—its 15th consecutive quarterly supplemental—and raised its regular monthly dividend by 4% to $0.2555 per share, providing an ~8% total yield to shareholders. With conservative regulatory debt-to-equity leverage of 0.67× and over $1.3 billion in liquidity, the company maintains a robust balance sheet to support future investment activity amid market uncertainty. The first quarter included $29.5 million of net realized losses and fair value depreciation in the private loan portfolio driven by widening market spreads and underperforming assets. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallMain Street Capital Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Greetings and welcome to Main Street Capital first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Zach Vaughan. Thank you. You may begin. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:00:25Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Main Street Capital Corporation's First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today with prepared comments are Dwayne Hyzak, Chief Executive Officer; David Magdol, President and Chief Investment Officer; and Ryan Nelson, Chief Financial Officer. Also participating in the Q&A portion of the call is Nick Meserve, Managing Director and Head of Main Street's Private Credit Investment Group. Main Street issued a press release yesterday afternoon that details the company's first quarter financial and operating results. This document is available in the investor relations section of the company's website at mainstcapital.com. The replay of today's call will be available beginning an hour after the completion of the call and will remain available until May 16th. Information on how to access the replay was included in yesterday's release. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:01:18We also advise you that this conference call is being broadcast live through the internet and can be accessed on the company's homepage. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, May 9th, 2025, and therefore you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Today's call will contain forward-looking statements. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may, or similar expressions. These statements are based on management's estimates, assumptions, and projections as of the date of this call, and there are no guarantees of future performance. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:02:00Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements as a result of risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including, but not limited to, the factors set forth in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on the company's website or at sec.gov. Main Street assumes no obligation to update any of these statements unless required by law. During today's call, management will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including Distributable Net Investment Income, or DNII. DNII is net investment income, or NII, as determined in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAAP, excluding the impact of non-cash compensation expenses. Management believes that presenting DNII and the related per-share amount are useful and appropriate supplemental disclosures for analyzing Main Street's financial performance since non-cash compensation expenses do not result in net cash impact to Main Street upon settlement. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:03:00Please refer to yesterday's press release for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Two additional key performance indicators that management will be discussing on this call are Net Asset Value, or NAV, and return on equity, or ROE. NAV is defined as total assets minus total liabilities and is also reported on a per-share basis. Main Street defines ROE as the net increase in net assets resulting from operations divided by the average quarterly NAV. Please note that certain information discussed on this call, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. Now I'll turn the call over to Main Street CEO, Dwayne Hyzak. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:03:43Thanks, Zach. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We appreciate your participation on this morning's call, and we hope that everyone's doing well. On today's call, I will provide my usual updates regarding our performance in the quarter. We'll also be providing updates on our asset management activities, our recent dividend declarations, our expectations for dividends going forward, our recent investment activities and current investment pipeline, and several other noteworthy updates. Following my comments, David and Ryan will provide additional comments regarding our investment strategy, investment portfolio, financial results, capital structure and liquidity, and our expectations for the second quarter, after which we'll be happy to take your questions. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:04:26We are pleased with our performance in the first quarter, which resulted in an annualized return on equity of 16.5%, DNII per share that continued to exceed the dividends paid to our shareholders, and a new record for NAV per share for the 11th consecutive quarter. We believe that these continued strong results demonstrate the sustainable strength of our overall platform, the benefits of our differentiated and diversified investment strategies, the unique contributions of our asset management business, and the continued underlying overall strength and quality of our portfolio companies. Additionally, we appreciate the continued support we received from our long-term lender relationships, as evidenced by the recent amendments and extensions of both our corporate facility and our SPV Credit Facility, which Ryan will discuss in more detail. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:05:14As a result, we continue to maintain very strong liquidity and a conservative leverage profile, providing us significant flexibility in the current uncertain market. We continue to be encouraged by the favorable overall performance of the companies in our diversified lower-middle market and private loan investment portfolios and remain confident that these strategies, together with the benefits of our asset management business, our significant available liquidity, and our cost-efficient operating structure, will allow us to deliver superior results to our shareholders. Despite the significant current market uncertainty associated with tariffs and geopolitical events, we continue to be confident in the ability of our portfolio companies to successfully navigate the current environment, which David will discuss in more detail. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:06:01Our favorable results in the first quarter, combined with our positive outlook for the second quarter, resulted in our recommendations to our board of directors for our most recent dividend announcements, which I will discuss in more detail later. Our NAV per share increased in the quarter primarily due to the impact of net fair value increases in our investment portfolio and the accretive impact of our equity issuances, which Ryan will discuss in more detail. The continued favorable performance of the majority of our lower-middle market portfolio companies resulted in another quarter of strong dividend income contributions and significant net fair value appreciation in our lower-middle market equity investments. Over the last few quarters, we have commented about the increased interest we have been receiving from potential buyers in certain lower-middle market portfolio companies. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:06:50We are pleased to announce that yesterday we closed the exit of our investments in one of our portfolio companies, Heritage VetPartners, at a realized gain of over $55 million and a meaningful premium to our March 31 fair value. Similar to the significant realized gain we recognized in the fourth quarter of 2024 on the exit of our equity investment in Pearl Meyer, we believe our investment in Heritage VetPartners is another great example of the highly unique benefits of our lower-middle market investment strategy, which resulted in significant benefits for both Main Street and our Heritage VetPartners Management Team partners. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:07:25The benefits for Main Street included significant dividend income, fair value appreciation, and the realized gain, resulting in best-in-class returns on our equity investment, in addition to the opportunity to back this best-in-class management team by funding all of their growth initiatives with follow-on Main Street debt investments, which provided us highly attractive interest income. We look forward to sharing additional details on this realization in the near future. Now, turning back to the first quarter, our lower-middle market investment activity resulted in a net increase in our lower-middle market investments of $57 million, and our private loan investment activity resulted in a net increase in our private loan investments of $26 million, which David will discuss in greater detail. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:08:11Given our conservative capital structure and strong liquidity position, we remain very well positioned to continue the future growth of our investment portfolio, and we are excited about the current opportunities we are seeing in our lower-middle market investment strategy. We've also continued to produce positive results in our asset management business. The funds we advised through our External Investment Manager continue to experience favorable performance in the first quarter, resulting in significant incentive fee income for our asset management business for the 10th consecutive quarter, and together with our recurring base management fees, a significant contribution to our net investment income. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:08:49We remain excited about our plans for the external funds that we manage as we execute our investment strategies and explore other strategic initiatives, and we are optimistic about the future performance of the funds and the attractive returns we are providing to the investors of each fund and about our strategy for growing our asset management business within our internally managed structure. As part of our efforts to grow our asset management business, we are very pleased that MSC Income Fund, a BDC advised by our External Investment Manager and our largest asset management business client, has been successful in growing its investment portfolio with a portion of the liquidity obtained through its listing on the New York Stock Exchange and its public equity offering in January. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:09:30We are also pleased with the fund's favorable performance in the first quarter, and we remain excited about the opportunity for significant future benefits to both the fund's shareholders and our asset management business from the listing and equity offering. Based upon our results for the first quarter, combined with our favorable outlook in each of our primary investment strategies and for our asset management business, earlier this week, our board declared a supplemental dividend of $0.30 per share payable in June, representing our 15th consecutive quarterly supplemental dividend, and an increase in our regular monthly dividends for the fourth quarter of 2025 to $0.255 per share. The third quarter regular monthly dividends are payable in each of July, August, and September and represent a 4% increase from the regular monthly dividends paid in the third quarter of 2024. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:10:24The supplemental dividend for June is a result of our strong performance in the first quarter and will result in total supplemental dividends paid during the trailing 12-month period of $1.20 per share, representing an additional 40% paid to our shareholders in excess of our regular monthly dividends and a current total yield we are providing to our shareholders of approximately 8%. We currently expect to recommend that our board continue to declare future supplemental dividends to the extent DNII significantly exceeds our regular monthly dividends paid in future quarters, and we maintain a stable to positive NAV. Based upon our expectations for continued favorable performance in the second quarter, we currently anticipate proposing an additional supplemental dividend payable in September. Now, turning to our current investment pipeline, as of today, we characterize our lower-middle market investment pipeline as average, with several new investments targeted to close before quarter end. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:11:24We believe that the unique and flexible financing solutions that we can provide to lower-middle market companies and their owners and management teams and our differentiated long-term to permanent holding periods represent an attractive solution to the needs of many lower-middle market companies. Despite the current broad economic uncertainty, we are confident in our expectations for favorable lower-middle market investment activity over the next few months. We also continue to be pleased with the performance of our private credit team and the significant growth they have provided for our private loan portfolio and our asset management business. As of today, I would characterize our private loan investment pipeline as average. With that, I will turn the call over to David. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:12:07Thanks, Dwayne, and good morning, everyone. As Dwayne highlighted in his remarks, we believe that our strong first-quarter financial results continue to demonstrate the strength of Main Street's platform, our differentiated investment approach, and our unique operating model. We are pleased to report that the overall operating performance for most of our portfolio companies continues to be positive, which contributed to our attractive first-quarter financial results. Due to the heightened level of concern and uncertainty in the market regarding the potential negative impacts from tariffs and consistent with our practices in other times of heightened market uncertainty, we have been and remain in regular contact with our lower-middle market portfolio companies to support them and discuss the proactive actions they are taking to address the current implications and potential challenges in the current market. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:12:56To date, we have seen limited negative impact on the overall portfolio, and we believe that our relationships with best-in-class managers and partners at the lower-middle market portfolio companies, along with our intentionally highly diversified investment strategy and portfolio, will continue to serve us well as it has over the past two decades during times of market disruption. Each quarter, we try to highlight key different aspects of our investment strategy and differentiated approach that allow us to consistently produce best-in-class results. For today's call, I'm going to spend some time discussing our private loan investment strategy, which is the second largest part of our investment portfolio and is the primary driver of our asset management business. We believe this is a particularly timely topic given the recent public listing of MSC Income Fund, which focuses all of its new investment activities on investments in our private loan investment strategy. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:13:54Over the last several years, we have grown the size and capabilities of our private loan investment team significantly. This has resulted in significant growth of our private loan investments, both on Main Street's balance sheet and to the third-party advisory clients that we manage through the external manager. As a reminder, our private loan strategy targets investments in the Senior Secured Debt of private equity-sponsored businesses. These investments are primarily originated by our internal investment professionals through strategic relationships they cultivate and maintain with a select group of private equity firms and their capital markets intermediaries. Our private loan investments are typically first-lien debt investments with attractive yield profiles and favorable terms. As of quarter end, 99.9% of our private loan secured debt investments were first-lien loans and 97% bore interest at floating-interest rates, which had an attractive weighted average yield of 11.4%. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:14:54Most of our private credit peers focus on the larger upper-middle market part of the leveraged loan market. We intentionally focus on the smaller end of the market where we believe the opportunity exists for us to lead or co-lead the vast majority of our private loan investments, and whereby we are able to directly manage the due diligence process, loan documentation, and post-investment lender interactions with the borrower. We believe our niche focus on the smaller end of the market is less competitive and allows us to earn more attractive risk-adjusted returns for Main Street's investors and for the investors in the funds we manage. Main Street has also benefited from our ability to utilize our private loan investment strategy to grow our asset management business. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:15:38Through our External Investment Manager, our private loan strategy effectively allows Main Street to leverage our investment professionals' time and our platform to benefit from the attractive and highly recurring fee-based income that we receive from third-party clients, while at the same time providing highly attractive investment opportunities and returns for those clients. Now, turning to the overall composition and results from our investment portfolio as of March 31, we continue to maintain a highly diversified portfolio with investments in 189 companies spanning across numerous industries and markets. Our largest portfolio companies, excluding the External Investment Manager, represented only 3.2% of our total investment income for the trailing 12-month period and 3.7% of our total investment portfolio fair value at quarter end. The majority of our portfolio investments represented less than 1% of our income and our assets. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:16:33Our investment activity in the first quarter included total investments in our lower-middle market portfolio of approximately $86 million, including investments of $62 million in two new lower-middle market portfolio companies, which, after aggregate repayments on debt investments, resulted in a net increase in our lower-middle market portfolio of $57 million. Driven by the capabilities and relationships of our private credit team, we also made $138 million in total private loan investments, which, after debt repayments and other investment activity, resulted in a net increase in our private loan portfolio of $26 million. At the end of the first quarter, our lower-middle market portfolio included investments in 86 companies representing $2.6 billion of fair value, which was 31% above our related cost basis. We had investments in 90 companies in our private loan portfolio representing $1.9 billion of fair value. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:17:30The total investment portfolio at fair value at quarter end was 18% above our related cost basis. In summary, Main Street's investment portfolio continues to perform at a high level and deliver on our long-term goals. Additional details on our investment portfolio at quarter end are included in the press release that we issued yesterday. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ryan to cover our financial results, capital structure, and liquidity position. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:17:55Thank you, David. To echo Dwayne's and David's comments, we are pleased with our operating results for the first quarter, which included a new record for NAV per share for the 11th consecutive quarter and favorable levels of NII per share and DNII per share. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:18:13Our total investment income for the first quarter was $137 million, increasing by $5.4 million, or 4.1%, over the first quarter of 2024 and decreasing by $3.4 million, or 2.4%, from the fourth quarter of 2024. Interest income decreased by $2.1 million from a year ago and decreased by $11.9 million from the fourth quarter of 2024. The decrease from the prior year was driven primarily by the impact of an increase in investments on non-accrual status and a decrease in interest rates on our floating-rate debt investments, primarily resulting from decreases in benchmark index rates, partially offset by the impact of increased net investment activity over last year. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:19:03The decrease from the fourth quarter was primarily driven by the impact of an increase in investments on non-accrual status, a decrease in net investment activity, and a decrease in interest rates on our floating-rate debt investments, primarily resulting from decreases in benchmark index rates. Dividend income increased by $13.2 million when compared to a year ago, with this increase after a $1.2 million decrease in unusual or non-recurring dividends and increased by $11.5 million from the fourth quarter, including a $300,000 increase in unusual or non-recurring dividends. The increases in dividend income are a result of the continued underlying strength of our lower-middle market portfolio companies. Fee income decreased by $5.7 million from a year ago and by $3 million from the fourth quarter. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:19:59The decrease in fee income from the prior year and the fourth quarter was primarily driven by a decrease from exit, prepayment, and amendment fees from investment activity and lower closing fees on new and follow-on investments. Prepayment and other fee income considered non-recurring decreased by $3.5 million from a year ago and by $1.2 million from the fourth quarter of 2024. The first quarter included reduced levels of income considered less consistent or non-recurring in nature in comparison to both the first quarter of 2024 and the fourth quarter of 2024, including dividends from our equity investments and accelerated prepayment, repricing, and other activity related to our debt investments. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:20:45In the aggregate, these items totaled $2.4 million and were $2.2 million, or $0.03 per share, lower compared to the average of the prior four quarters, $5.2 million, or $0.06 per share, lower than the first quarter of 2024, and $1.3 million, or $0.01 per share, lower than the fourth quarter of 2024. Our operating expenses increased by $5.4 million over the first quarter of 2024 and decreased by $2.9 million from the fourth quarter. The increase in operating expenses from the prior year was largely driven by increases in interest expense, general and administrative expense, and share-based compensation expense, partially offset by a decrease in cash compensation-related expenses. The decrease in operating expenses from the fourth quarter of 2024 was largely driven by decreases in interest expense and compensation-related expenses, partially offset by a decrease in expenses allocated to the External Investment Manager. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:21:55The increase in interest expense from a year ago was primarily driven by an increase in the weighted average rate on our unsecured debt obligations and an increase in average borrowings to fund a portion of the growth of our investment portfolio, partially offset by a decreased weighted average interest rate on our credit facilities, resulting from decreases in the benchmark index interest rates. The decrease in interest expense from the fourth quarter of 2024 was primarily driven by a decrease in our average outstanding borrowings and a decrease in the weighted average rate on our credit facilities, resulting from decreases in the benchmark index interest rates. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:22:34The ratio of our total operating expenses, excluding interest expense, as a percentage of our average total assets was 1.2% for the quarter on an annualized basis and 1.3% for the trailing 12-month period and continues to be among the lowest in our industry. Our External Investment Manager contributed $7.8 million to our net investment income during the first quarter, a decrease of $800,000 from the same quarter a year ago and $900,000 from the fourth quarter of 2024. The manager ended the quarter with total assets under management of $1.6 billion. During the quarter, we recorded net fair value appreciation, including net realized losses and net unrealized depreciation on the investment portfolio of $33.6 million. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:23:26This increase was driven by net fair value appreciation in our lower-middle market investment portfolio, partially offset by net fair value depreciation in our External Investment Manager, our private loan investment portfolio, and middle market investment portfolio. The net fair value appreciation in our lower-middle market portfolio was largely driven by the continued positive performance of certain of our portfolio companies. The net fair value depreciation of our External Investment Manager was primarily driven by decreases in the valuation multiples of publicly traded peers, which we use as one of the benchmarks for valuation purposes. The net fair value depreciation in our private loan portfolio was driven by increases in market spreads, partially offset by the impact of specific portfolio company performance. The net fair value depreciation in our middle market portfolio was driven by the impact of specific portfolio company performance. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:24:28We recognized net realized losses of $29.5 million in the quarter. The realized losses recognized were primarily the result of the exit or restructure of several long-standing underperforming investments, partially offset by a realized gain on the exit of a private loan equity investment. We ended the fourth quarter with investments on non-accrual status comprising 1.7% of the total investment portfolio at fair value and approximately 4.5% at cost. Net asset value, or NAV, increased by $0.38 per share over the fourth quarter and by $2.49, or 8.4% when compared to a year ago, to a record NAV per share of $32.03 at quarter end. Our regulatory debt-to-equity leverage, calculated as total debt excluding our SBIC debentures, divided by Net Asset Value, was 0.67 times, and our regulatory asset coverage was 2.48 times. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:25:32These ratios continue to be more conservative than our long-term target ranges of 0.8-0.9 times and 2.1-2.25 times, respectively. Given our liquidity position, we were less active during the first quarter in our at-the-market, or ATM, program, raising net proceeds of $5.1 million from equity issuances. In April, we amended our corporate credit facility, decreasing the interest rate by 10 basis points prior to satisfying certain conditions, or 22.5 basis points after satisfying certain conditions, increasing our total commitments $35 million and extending the maturity to April 2030. Additionally, we also amended our SPV Credit Facility by decreasing the interest rate by 40 basis points and extending the maturity to September 2030. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:26:25After giving effect to the capital activities in the first quarter of 2025 and recent credit facility amendments in April 2025, we entered the second quarter with strong liquidity, including cash and availability under our credit facilities in excess of $1.3 billion, with only one near-term debt maturity of $150 million in December 2025. We continue to believe that our conservative leverage, strong liquidity, and continued access to capital are significant strengths that have proven to benefit us historically and have us well-positioned for the future, allowing us to continue to execute our attractive investment strategies. As discussed last quarter, with this current level of liquidity, we currently expect to fund our new net investment activity in 2025 through a greater portion of debt financing, and as such, we would expect leverage to continue to increase during the course of the year. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:27:17However, we expect to continue to operate throughout the year at leverage levels more conservative than our long-term targets. Coming back to our operating results, DNII per share for the quarter of $1.07 decreased from DNII per share for the first quarter last year by 4 cents and decreased from the DNII per share for the fourth quarter by 1 cent. Looking forward, we expect headwinds on top-line earnings related to the potential decrease in floating market rates and potential tariff impacts. Given the strength of our underlying portfolio, we expect favorable earnings in the second quarter of 2025 with expected DNII of at least $1.03 per share, with the potential for upside driven by portfolio investment activities during the quarter and a favorable outcome to the current market uncertainty. With that, I will now turn the call back over to the operators so we can take any questions. Operator00:28:15Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. Our first question is from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please proceed. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:28:43Hi, guys. I appreciate the commentary on the strength of the portfolio companies, but can you be any more explicit maybe on what tariff exposure you have in the portfolio? I mean, obviously, you do not have international businesses in there, but is there offshore manufacturing of some parts or anybody who is particularly exposed to imported raw materials or anything like that? Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:29:19Any color you can give us on that front on what the overall kind of feel for the exposure is there. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:29:24Sure, Robert. Good morning, and thanks for the question. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:29:28Good morning. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:29:29We've talked about this before in the past, but if we look at our portfolio, and I'll split the comments between lower-middle market and private loan because we just have more visibility into the lower-middle market portfolio companies given our position as a significant equity owner there. Most of our companies, particularly in the lower-middle market, they are U.S. businesses. They're manufacturing in the U.S. They're selling to U.S. customers. They're buying or purchasing from U.S. vendors. We look at the lower-middle market portfolio as a whole and think that we've got some limited exposure there. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:30:04As you would expect us to be doing, and as David, I think, commented in his script, we have been and continue to talk frequently with the management teams of our lower-middle market portfolio companies to understand their risk and then help them collectively with us figure out ways to mitigate that risk. As we went through that process, our view is that in the lower-middle market, somewhere close to a high single-digit %, and I give you that number as a % based upon looking at the portfolio a couple of different ways, looking at it by actual portfolio count, looking at it on both a cost or fair value basis. On each of those different metrics, it would be a high single-digit % that we think has meaningful exposure to tariffs. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:30:46As you said, we think that the most significant exposure impacts would be from those companies that are directly importing finished goods. The good news on that side is we have some exposure there, but it is fairly limited, and we think it's very manageable. When we look at the portfolio more broadly, we would say that there's probably another 10-20% that has some level of exposure, and that's not specific to Main Street. We just think that's the result of the global nature of the economy and business today. If you're in industrial businesses, manufacturing, services related to industrial businesses, you're going to have some exposure. We look at that and say that those companies have some level of direct or indirect exposure to tariffs. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:31:30One of the things that we always look at is that just having exposure to tariffs on its own does not necessarily mean that there's going to be a negative result or impact. It just means that those companies that have that exposure, you have to be taking steps to mitigate it. That's where we take comfort in the fact that our management teams of our portfolio companies have been through this type of a scenario before. If you look back at the COVID-19 pandemic time period and the resulting supply chain issues and inflation that came out of it, they've been through that. We have the view that our management teams have dealt with this type of a scenario before, and we're confident that they're going to do a good job in mitigating the risk, whether that means pushing through price increases or finding alternative sourcing. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:32:12We feel pretty good about where we sit, but we do acknowledge that we have some level of exposure there when you look across the portfolio. On the private loan and middle market side, really the private loan side because that's where the remainder of our portfolio really sits outside of lower-middle market. I'd say it's similar. Most of these companies are also predominantly U.S. companies. We think that the risk is a little bit similar to what we have on the lower-middle market side. We do take comfort in the fact that we are largely first-lien, senior-secured lenders. You have a lot of cushion in the capital structure beneath our position to help us mitigate our risk there. We are actively working with the portfolio companies and the private equity sponsors, similar to the lower-middle market, to understand what that risk is. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:32:58When we look at the companies on that side of our portfolio that have meaningful direct exposure, the way we would quantify it is it's a handful of companies. We'll also note that a couple of those companies are already on non-accrual and/or they've had significant fair value depreciation. When we look at our results from an income standpoint or from an NAV or fair value standpoint, we think the fact that we've already got those on non-accrual and some fair value depreciation further mitigates the risk to some extent. Similar to the lower-middle market, just because they have the exposure doesn't mean that they're going to have significant negative impacts. We look at trying to understand what those companies are doing to mitigate the risk, again, either through pushing through price increases or looking for alternative sourcing or other activities to mitigate it. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:33:46While we do have some risk there, we think it is still limited, and we feel good about the manner in which our management teams and portfolio companies should be able to mitigate that risk. Obviously, if the situation becomes more significant or more negative than it is today, or if the time period gets drawn out, that risk could change in the future. As we sit here today, I think we feel pretty good about our risk and the steps that our portfolio companies are taking to mitigate it. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:34:14Very, very helpful. Thank you for that. On the private loan in the pipeline, I mean, you characterize it as average. It does seem like that is dealing with slightly larger, more sponsor-backed companies. Obviously, we have heard a lot about M&As, muted, etc., and maybe getting more so at the moment. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:34:41Why is it still average? Average seems good in this environment. Can you give us any color of why your pipeline there is still kind of average-ish given the amount of volatility and what seems to be a pretty muted M&A market right now? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:34:56Sure, Robert. I'll give a few comments, and I'll let Nick, who, as you know, leads our private credit business, add on. I'd say the reason we view it as average today is we've got a large portfolio there, and we're seeing a number of those companies that, despite the uncertain environment, their businesses are doing well, and they're having opportunities to grow, whether that's acquisition or organic. They're coming to us, and they're looking for additional add-on loans or debt investments from us to help them facilitate that growth. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:35:27I think that's part of the reason we have it at average. We're also continuing to see a number of kind of new investment opportunities that we think, despite the current uncertain environment, we think they're underwritten correctly, they're priced correctly. All things being equal, if the transaction closes, we'll continue to find those opportunities attractive from a new portfolio standpoint. I'll let Nick add any additional color he wants to add to that. Nick MeserveManaging Director at Main Street Capital Corporation00:35:51Yeah, Robert, I mean, I think you are right. It is a muted M&A environment, but with that is also less repayments. I think from the pipeline perspective, it is average. I think we're seeing both new deals and add-ons. The add-ons in the portfolio have increased over the last two to three years as the number in the portfolio has increased. Nick MeserveManaging Director at Main Street Capital Corporation00:36:12I think what's TBD still is going to be in some of the uncertainty is do some of these transactions close or not. I think we'll know more in the next three or six months of where does the tariff noise go? Do we actually close and finish those transactions, or do they get pushed out a little bit? Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:36:25Thank you. Excellent. Nick MeserveManaging Director at Main Street Capital Corporation00:36:29Thank you, Robert. Operator00:36:30Our next question is from Mark Hughes with Truist Securities. Please proceed. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:36:36Yeah, thank you. In thinking about your kind of non-recurring income items, the dividends from investments, I think you've got some variability there. Is there any concern that those might slow down, or are the portfolio companies perhaps going to be a little more conservative with their balance sheets, or is that not so much of an issue? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:37:02Yeah, Mark, good morning, and thanks for the question. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:37:06I'd say that we do always have that concern. The dividend income component of our income streams is always going to be the most variable or most discretionary. I'd say as we sit here today, and as you've heard us say in the past, we have a number of our lower-middle market companies that are not just doing well; they're doing really well. They've been doing well for a long time. As a result, their capital structure is such that it's kind of very conservative, limited amounts of leverage. As they continue to produce significant cash flow, that cash flow has to go somewhere. It's increasingly coming out of those companies to us and the other equity owners of those businesses through dividend income. I think it is something we watch. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:37:46It is something that if the economy was to take a big step back, particularly if that step back was for an extended period of time, that dividend income would be at more risk. As we look at the current portfolio, the current results we're seeing from the companies, and more importantly, the dialogue we're hearing, while there clearly is a lot of uncertainty out there, the companies are still doing well. We expect at least for the second quarter to continue to see good amounts of dividend income coming out of those companies. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:38:13Yeah. You obviously described a nice, attractive $55 million gain here in the second quarter. I think in earlier calls, you had alluded to the fact that there were some potential realizations in the pipeline. Is there more to come? Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:38:35Anything you've got visibility for, or is it just kind of business per usual? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:38:41Yeah, Mark, I would say it's probably more in line with business as usual. There's always going to be some level of activity in the lower-middle market portfolio where you've got 80-plus companies. There's always going to be some level of activity ongoing. After the very, very attractive realized gain that we had in late December with Pearl Meyer and now the gain here in the second quarter, those were really the two large exit activities that we've been talking about. Obviously, both of those are great companies. We're a little torn on seeing them leave the portfolio. At the same time, the realized gains and the returns from an equity investment standpoint, we consider them to be best in class. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:39:17When you have that opportunity, it also makes sense if our partners in the businesses, the management teams of those companies want to pursue that transaction, we're going to help them pursue it to the best outcome possible. Those are two of the primary transactions that we've been talking about for the last few quarters. I would say that things are more back to kind of ordinary course from an exit activity expectation standpoint. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:39:43One other question. You've got a long holding period, obviously, with your equity investments. When you get to a period like this in the economy, does that create opportunity for you that you can look at something that perhaps is maybe a little more exposed or experiencing a little more volatility because you've got a longer horizon? Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:40:11Alternatively, you tighten things up, and certainly you want to stay as disciplined as you have been historically. Does this create opportunity where others do not step in, but you have the potential to do so? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:40:29Yeah, Mark, absolutely. I would say that our view has always been, not just here recently, but for the last two decades, that we want to make sure that we maintain a very conservative capital structure and, more importantly, a very significant amount of liquidity so that we can always be active in the marketplace. That includes time periods where the economy is humming and things are going really, really well. It also includes time periods where there is significant uncertainty. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:40:53Just to give you a point of reference that you may recall, but just for your benefit, if you look at both Pearl Meyer and Heritage VetPartners or NVS VetPartners or Services, both of those transactions were executed during COVID. Pearl Meyer, from memory, was May of 2020. Heritage VetPartners was December of 2020. Most firms, from our perspective, were not active during those time periods. They were not traveling. They were not going to see people in person. We were to the extent we could. Those activities led us to two transactions that were just fantastic opportunities. They fit us really, really well in terms of us being a partner with the individual owner-operators, the management teams of those businesses. They were also fantastic businesses. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:41:41Our ability and desire to continue to be active in all time periods led us to two transactions that obviously were really, really good transactions for us. Not just for us, but they were really good transactions for those management teams. You should expect us, just like we have been in the past, great recession, COVID-19 pandemic, etc., you should expect us to seek to be active. Obviously, the counterparty has to want to transact as well. We feel good about our expectations to be active, even if there continues to be significant uncertainty in the marketplace. The goal for us is to always, first and foremost, on the lower-middle market strategy, just to find best-in-class individuals, management teams that have been in their business for a long time, where we have opportunities to become their partner. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:42:30We've always found that super attractive, and we'll always find that super attractive in the future. I'll let David add on if he has any additional color or commentary there. I think Dwayne covered most, but the last thing I'd add is that with the seasoned nature of our portfolio, those companies naturally have less leverage than the rest of the portfolio. Those managers are waiting for opportunities and times. They're tracking acquisition targets over extended periods of time, having been in the industry to their partners for a very long period of time. We do see more activity in those portfolio companies on doing strategic acquisitions and/or putting growth capital into the companies when the opportunity is right. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:43:08Appreciate that. Thank you. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:43:11Thank you, Mark. Operator00:43:13Our next question is from Douglas Harter with UBS. Please proceed. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:43:19Hi. This is actually Corey Johnson on for Douglas. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:43:26You mentioned wanting to bring leverage up, but perhaps not to your target range. Could you just talk maybe a little bit about the pace of how you expect it to maybe trend throughout this year and what might be around the high mark? Are you looking to get maybe towards around the low end of your target range? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:43:50Sure, Corey. Thanks for joining us, and thanks for the question. I'd say that it's hard to really give a time period or even an amount of leverage we'll get to at the end of the year. It's obviously going to be highly dependent upon the investment activity, which, as we just talked about, could be more uncertain or more muted, both on the lower-middle market side and the private loan side, just given what's going on in the economy. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:44:14I'd say the guidance we are giving is that as we execute growth of the portfolio, both lower-middle market and private loan, our plan is to utilize more of our debt capacity as opposed to additional equity issuances over time to increase that leverage ratio so that it moves more in line with our range and continue to be conservative, but moving in the direction of increasing leverage to be closer to the target range. Again, the timing and the ability to do that is primarily going to be dependent upon the pace of new investment activity. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:44:47All right. Thank you. Additionally, so you've had your operational expense ratio come down this quarter. Do you see any, is there any additional capacity that you think to be able to bring down your ratio as you continue to scale up? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:45:15Sure, Corey. I think we always view there being an opportunity to continue to become more efficient. It's one of the biggest benefits of our structures and internally managed BDC. I would say that where you look at where we are today, realistically, there's not a ton of room there. The variability, quarter to quarter, year to year, as we sit here today, is going to be more focused on the incentive portion of our compensation and how are we performing from an operating performance standpoint, both the income statement, ROE, performance, as well as new investment activity. Those are going to be the biggest drivers, just like they have been in the past, that drive our incentive comp. If we're doing really, really well, there'll be more incentive comp. If we're not doing as well, there'll be less. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:45:59The variability in our incentive comp will be the biggest factor that drives that expense ratio. Again, we think that's one of the biggest strengths. If we outperform, our team is going to have some additional comp. If we head into a tough environment, there'll be less incentive comp that, again, directly aligns with the performance and the benefits we're providing to our shareholders. Again, we think it's one of the biggest benefits of our structure and one of the things that has served us so well for 20 years. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:46:26Great. Thank you. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:46:29Thank you. Operator00:46:30Our next question is from Sean Paul Adams with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:46:37Hey, guys. Good morning. I dialed a little bit in late, so apologies if this already got answered. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:46:46Can you talk about your current expectations for the scale growth and run rate for earnings from the MSC Adviser going forward? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:46:57Sure. Thanks for joining, and thanks for the question. On our contributions from MSCI Adviser, I would say as we sit here today, the biggest catalyst or biggest event was the transaction that happened in January of this year where we were successful in completing a listing and an equity offering for MSC Income Fund. Now that that activity is behind us and we look forward, the future growth on the base side is really going to be focused on deployment of capital at MSC Income Fund. As you see us have more activity, you'll see the base management fee come up. That number will be directly correlated with the investment activity. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:47:39The incentive fee is by far the biggest variable, which, again, varies with our performance, not just at MSC Income Fund, but also at the private loan funds we have. I think we feel pretty good about where we are with the performance of those vehicles and would expect to continue to see incentive fee income going forward. As you look out maybe one quarter forward, I think something in line with where we were in the first quarter would be a good number to expect for the second quarter. As you look out further than that, it is all going to be dependent upon our pace of investment activity and then just the overall economic performance and what that means for the performance of our portfolio companies and our net investment income at those asset management business clients. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:48:19Thank you. Just a quick follow-up, if I can. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:48:25Could you just walk us through some of the implied exit multiples embedded in the LMM equity portfolio versus where you see the market transacting today? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:48:35Yeah. If I understand your question, one, there are details in our 10Q that will give you those numbers. I'd say that there is not a lot of variability or movement quarter to quarter. Our goal with our kind of quarterly valuation process is that you are getting to a valuation multiple for each of the companies that is what that transaction should close at in a marketed process. Obviously, you have transactions like Heritage VetPartners and Pearl Meyer, where as you enter into a process, if that process goes well, you will see significant value expansion, primarily not on EBITDA, but primarily on the multiple. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:49:18If you look back at the history on both Pearl Meyer and Heritage VetPartners, you'll see there was significant fair value appreciation as we went to market, kind of went through an auction or sale process, and got to a good outcome. In general, the fair value process we have is the goal of that is to provide a valuation that you think it would transact at in the open marketplace. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:49:42Got it. Thank you for the color. I appreciate it. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:49:46Thank you. Operator00:49:47As a reminder, to star one on your telephone keypad, if you would like to ask a question, we will pause for one brief moment to see if there's any final questions. With no further questions, I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:50:08I just want to say thank you again, everyone, for joining us this morning. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:50:11We appreciate the continued support of our shareholders, and we look forward to having everyone join us again for our next call in August after the release of our results for the second quarter. Operator00:50:20Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesZach VaughanHead of Investor RelationsDwayne HyzakCEODavid MagdolPresident and CIONick MeserveManaging DirectorRyan NelsonCFOAnalystsRobert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond JamesCorey JohnsonAnalyst at UBSMark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist SecuritiesSean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Greetings and welcome to Main Street Capital first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Zach Vaughan. Thank you. You may begin. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:00:25Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Main Street Capital Corporation's First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today with prepared comments are Dwayne Hyzak, Chief Executive Officer; David Magdol, President and Chief Investment Officer; and Ryan Nelson, Chief Financial Officer. Also participating in the Q&A portion of the call is Nick Meserve, Managing Director and Head of Main Street's Private Credit Investment Group. Main Street issued a press release yesterday afternoon that details the company's first quarter financial and operating results. This document is available in the investor relations section of the company's website at mainstcapital.com. The replay of today's call will be available beginning an hour after the completion of the call and will remain available until May 16th. Information on how to access the replay was included in yesterday's release. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:01:18We also advise you that this conference call is being broadcast live through the internet and can be accessed on the company's homepage. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, May 9th, 2025, and therefore you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Today's call will contain forward-looking statements. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may, or similar expressions. These statements are based on management's estimates, assumptions, and projections as of the date of this call, and there are no guarantees of future performance. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:02:00Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements as a result of risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including, but not limited to, the factors set forth in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on the company's website or at sec.gov. Main Street assumes no obligation to update any of these statements unless required by law. During today's call, management will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including Distributable Net Investment Income, or DNII. DNII is net investment income, or NII, as determined in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAAP, excluding the impact of non-cash compensation expenses. Management believes that presenting DNII and the related per-share amount are useful and appropriate supplemental disclosures for analyzing Main Street's financial performance since non-cash compensation expenses do not result in net cash impact to Main Street upon settlement. Zach VaughanHead of Investor Relations at Main Street Capital Corporation00:03:00Please refer to yesterday's press release for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Two additional key performance indicators that management will be discussing on this call are Net Asset Value, or NAV, and return on equity, or ROE. NAV is defined as total assets minus total liabilities and is also reported on a per-share basis. Main Street defines ROE as the net increase in net assets resulting from operations divided by the average quarterly NAV. Please note that certain information discussed on this call, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. Now I'll turn the call over to Main Street CEO, Dwayne Hyzak. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:03:43Thanks, Zach. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We appreciate your participation on this morning's call, and we hope that everyone's doing well. On today's call, I will provide my usual updates regarding our performance in the quarter. We'll also be providing updates on our asset management activities, our recent dividend declarations, our expectations for dividends going forward, our recent investment activities and current investment pipeline, and several other noteworthy updates. Following my comments, David and Ryan will provide additional comments regarding our investment strategy, investment portfolio, financial results, capital structure and liquidity, and our expectations for the second quarter, after which we'll be happy to take your questions. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:04:26We are pleased with our performance in the first quarter, which resulted in an annualized return on equity of 16.5%, DNII per share that continued to exceed the dividends paid to our shareholders, and a new record for NAV per share for the 11th consecutive quarter. We believe that these continued strong results demonstrate the sustainable strength of our overall platform, the benefits of our differentiated and diversified investment strategies, the unique contributions of our asset management business, and the continued underlying overall strength and quality of our portfolio companies. Additionally, we appreciate the continued support we received from our long-term lender relationships, as evidenced by the recent amendments and extensions of both our corporate facility and our SPV Credit Facility, which Ryan will discuss in more detail. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:05:14As a result, we continue to maintain very strong liquidity and a conservative leverage profile, providing us significant flexibility in the current uncertain market. We continue to be encouraged by the favorable overall performance of the companies in our diversified lower-middle market and private loan investment portfolios and remain confident that these strategies, together with the benefits of our asset management business, our significant available liquidity, and our cost-efficient operating structure, will allow us to deliver superior results to our shareholders. Despite the significant current market uncertainty associated with tariffs and geopolitical events, we continue to be confident in the ability of our portfolio companies to successfully navigate the current environment, which David will discuss in more detail. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:06:01Our favorable results in the first quarter, combined with our positive outlook for the second quarter, resulted in our recommendations to our board of directors for our most recent dividend announcements, which I will discuss in more detail later. Our NAV per share increased in the quarter primarily due to the impact of net fair value increases in our investment portfolio and the accretive impact of our equity issuances, which Ryan will discuss in more detail. The continued favorable performance of the majority of our lower-middle market portfolio companies resulted in another quarter of strong dividend income contributions and significant net fair value appreciation in our lower-middle market equity investments. Over the last few quarters, we have commented about the increased interest we have been receiving from potential buyers in certain lower-middle market portfolio companies. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:06:50We are pleased to announce that yesterday we closed the exit of our investments in one of our portfolio companies, Heritage VetPartners, at a realized gain of over $55 million and a meaningful premium to our March 31 fair value. Similar to the significant realized gain we recognized in the fourth quarter of 2024 on the exit of our equity investment in Pearl Meyer, we believe our investment in Heritage VetPartners is another great example of the highly unique benefits of our lower-middle market investment strategy, which resulted in significant benefits for both Main Street and our Heritage VetPartners Management Team partners. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:07:25The benefits for Main Street included significant dividend income, fair value appreciation, and the realized gain, resulting in best-in-class returns on our equity investment, in addition to the opportunity to back this best-in-class management team by funding all of their growth initiatives with follow-on Main Street debt investments, which provided us highly attractive interest income. We look forward to sharing additional details on this realization in the near future. Now, turning back to the first quarter, our lower-middle market investment activity resulted in a net increase in our lower-middle market investments of $57 million, and our private loan investment activity resulted in a net increase in our private loan investments of $26 million, which David will discuss in greater detail. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:08:11Given our conservative capital structure and strong liquidity position, we remain very well positioned to continue the future growth of our investment portfolio, and we are excited about the current opportunities we are seeing in our lower-middle market investment strategy. We've also continued to produce positive results in our asset management business. The funds we advised through our External Investment Manager continue to experience favorable performance in the first quarter, resulting in significant incentive fee income for our asset management business for the 10th consecutive quarter, and together with our recurring base management fees, a significant contribution to our net investment income. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:08:49We remain excited about our plans for the external funds that we manage as we execute our investment strategies and explore other strategic initiatives, and we are optimistic about the future performance of the funds and the attractive returns we are providing to the investors of each fund and about our strategy for growing our asset management business within our internally managed structure. As part of our efforts to grow our asset management business, we are very pleased that MSC Income Fund, a BDC advised by our External Investment Manager and our largest asset management business client, has been successful in growing its investment portfolio with a portion of the liquidity obtained through its listing on the New York Stock Exchange and its public equity offering in January. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:09:30We are also pleased with the fund's favorable performance in the first quarter, and we remain excited about the opportunity for significant future benefits to both the fund's shareholders and our asset management business from the listing and equity offering. Based upon our results for the first quarter, combined with our favorable outlook in each of our primary investment strategies and for our asset management business, earlier this week, our board declared a supplemental dividend of $0.30 per share payable in June, representing our 15th consecutive quarterly supplemental dividend, and an increase in our regular monthly dividends for the fourth quarter of 2025 to $0.255 per share. The third quarter regular monthly dividends are payable in each of July, August, and September and represent a 4% increase from the regular monthly dividends paid in the third quarter of 2024. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:10:24The supplemental dividend for June is a result of our strong performance in the first quarter and will result in total supplemental dividends paid during the trailing 12-month period of $1.20 per share, representing an additional 40% paid to our shareholders in excess of our regular monthly dividends and a current total yield we are providing to our shareholders of approximately 8%. We currently expect to recommend that our board continue to declare future supplemental dividends to the extent DNII significantly exceeds our regular monthly dividends paid in future quarters, and we maintain a stable to positive NAV. Based upon our expectations for continued favorable performance in the second quarter, we currently anticipate proposing an additional supplemental dividend payable in September. Now, turning to our current investment pipeline, as of today, we characterize our lower-middle market investment pipeline as average, with several new investments targeted to close before quarter end. Dwayne HyzakCEO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:11:24We believe that the unique and flexible financing solutions that we can provide to lower-middle market companies and their owners and management teams and our differentiated long-term to permanent holding periods represent an attractive solution to the needs of many lower-middle market companies. Despite the current broad economic uncertainty, we are confident in our expectations for favorable lower-middle market investment activity over the next few months. We also continue to be pleased with the performance of our private credit team and the significant growth they have provided for our private loan portfolio and our asset management business. As of today, I would characterize our private loan investment pipeline as average. With that, I will turn the call over to David. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:12:07Thanks, Dwayne, and good morning, everyone. As Dwayne highlighted in his remarks, we believe that our strong first-quarter financial results continue to demonstrate the strength of Main Street's platform, our differentiated investment approach, and our unique operating model. We are pleased to report that the overall operating performance for most of our portfolio companies continues to be positive, which contributed to our attractive first-quarter financial results. Due to the heightened level of concern and uncertainty in the market regarding the potential negative impacts from tariffs and consistent with our practices in other times of heightened market uncertainty, we have been and remain in regular contact with our lower-middle market portfolio companies to support them and discuss the proactive actions they are taking to address the current implications and potential challenges in the current market. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:12:56To date, we have seen limited negative impact on the overall portfolio, and we believe that our relationships with best-in-class managers and partners at the lower-middle market portfolio companies, along with our intentionally highly diversified investment strategy and portfolio, will continue to serve us well as it has over the past two decades during times of market disruption. Each quarter, we try to highlight key different aspects of our investment strategy and differentiated approach that allow us to consistently produce best-in-class results. For today's call, I'm going to spend some time discussing our private loan investment strategy, which is the second largest part of our investment portfolio and is the primary driver of our asset management business. We believe this is a particularly timely topic given the recent public listing of MSC Income Fund, which focuses all of its new investment activities on investments in our private loan investment strategy. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:13:54Over the last several years, we have grown the size and capabilities of our private loan investment team significantly. This has resulted in significant growth of our private loan investments, both on Main Street's balance sheet and to the third-party advisory clients that we manage through the external manager. As a reminder, our private loan strategy targets investments in the Senior Secured Debt of private equity-sponsored businesses. These investments are primarily originated by our internal investment professionals through strategic relationships they cultivate and maintain with a select group of private equity firms and their capital markets intermediaries. Our private loan investments are typically first-lien debt investments with attractive yield profiles and favorable terms. As of quarter end, 99.9% of our private loan secured debt investments were first-lien loans and 97% bore interest at floating-interest rates, which had an attractive weighted average yield of 11.4%. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:14:54Most of our private credit peers focus on the larger upper-middle market part of the leveraged loan market. We intentionally focus on the smaller end of the market where we believe the opportunity exists for us to lead or co-lead the vast majority of our private loan investments, and whereby we are able to directly manage the due diligence process, loan documentation, and post-investment lender interactions with the borrower. We believe our niche focus on the smaller end of the market is less competitive and allows us to earn more attractive risk-adjusted returns for Main Street's investors and for the investors in the funds we manage. Main Street has also benefited from our ability to utilize our private loan investment strategy to grow our asset management business. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:15:38Through our External Investment Manager, our private loan strategy effectively allows Main Street to leverage our investment professionals' time and our platform to benefit from the attractive and highly recurring fee-based income that we receive from third-party clients, while at the same time providing highly attractive investment opportunities and returns for those clients. Now, turning to the overall composition and results from our investment portfolio as of March 31, we continue to maintain a highly diversified portfolio with investments in 189 companies spanning across numerous industries and markets. Our largest portfolio companies, excluding the External Investment Manager, represented only 3.2% of our total investment income for the trailing 12-month period and 3.7% of our total investment portfolio fair value at quarter end. The majority of our portfolio investments represented less than 1% of our income and our assets. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:16:33Our investment activity in the first quarter included total investments in our lower-middle market portfolio of approximately $86 million, including investments of $62 million in two new lower-middle market portfolio companies, which, after aggregate repayments on debt investments, resulted in a net increase in our lower-middle market portfolio of $57 million. Driven by the capabilities and relationships of our private credit team, we also made $138 million in total private loan investments, which, after debt repayments and other investment activity, resulted in a net increase in our private loan portfolio of $26 million. At the end of the first quarter, our lower-middle market portfolio included investments in 86 companies representing $2.6 billion of fair value, which was 31% above our related cost basis. We had investments in 90 companies in our private loan portfolio representing $1.9 billion of fair value. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:17:30The total investment portfolio at fair value at quarter end was 18% above our related cost basis. In summary, Main Street's investment portfolio continues to perform at a high level and deliver on our long-term goals. Additional details on our investment portfolio at quarter end are included in the press release that we issued yesterday. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ryan to cover our financial results, capital structure, and liquidity position. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:17:55Thank you, David. To echo Dwayne's and David's comments, we are pleased with our operating results for the first quarter, which included a new record for NAV per share for the 11th consecutive quarter and favorable levels of NII per share and DNII per share. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:18:13Our total investment income for the first quarter was $137 million, increasing by $5.4 million, or 4.1%, over the first quarter of 2024 and decreasing by $3.4 million, or 2.4%, from the fourth quarter of 2024. Interest income decreased by $2.1 million from a year ago and decreased by $11.9 million from the fourth quarter of 2024. The decrease from the prior year was driven primarily by the impact of an increase in investments on non-accrual status and a decrease in interest rates on our floating-rate debt investments, primarily resulting from decreases in benchmark index rates, partially offset by the impact of increased net investment activity over last year. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:19:03The decrease from the fourth quarter was primarily driven by the impact of an increase in investments on non-accrual status, a decrease in net investment activity, and a decrease in interest rates on our floating-rate debt investments, primarily resulting from decreases in benchmark index rates. Dividend income increased by $13.2 million when compared to a year ago, with this increase after a $1.2 million decrease in unusual or non-recurring dividends and increased by $11.5 million from the fourth quarter, including a $300,000 increase in unusual or non-recurring dividends. The increases in dividend income are a result of the continued underlying strength of our lower-middle market portfolio companies. Fee income decreased by $5.7 million from a year ago and by $3 million from the fourth quarter. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:19:59The decrease in fee income from the prior year and the fourth quarter was primarily driven by a decrease from exit, prepayment, and amendment fees from investment activity and lower closing fees on new and follow-on investments. Prepayment and other fee income considered non-recurring decreased by $3.5 million from a year ago and by $1.2 million from the fourth quarter of 2024. The first quarter included reduced levels of income considered less consistent or non-recurring in nature in comparison to both the first quarter of 2024 and the fourth quarter of 2024, including dividends from our equity investments and accelerated prepayment, repricing, and other activity related to our debt investments. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:20:45In the aggregate, these items totaled $2.4 million and were $2.2 million, or $0.03 per share, lower compared to the average of the prior four quarters, $5.2 million, or $0.06 per share, lower than the first quarter of 2024, and $1.3 million, or $0.01 per share, lower than the fourth quarter of 2024. Our operating expenses increased by $5.4 million over the first quarter of 2024 and decreased by $2.9 million from the fourth quarter. The increase in operating expenses from the prior year was largely driven by increases in interest expense, general and administrative expense, and share-based compensation expense, partially offset by a decrease in cash compensation-related expenses. The decrease in operating expenses from the fourth quarter of 2024 was largely driven by decreases in interest expense and compensation-related expenses, partially offset by a decrease in expenses allocated to the External Investment Manager. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:21:55The increase in interest expense from a year ago was primarily driven by an increase in the weighted average rate on our unsecured debt obligations and an increase in average borrowings to fund a portion of the growth of our investment portfolio, partially offset by a decreased weighted average interest rate on our credit facilities, resulting from decreases in the benchmark index interest rates. The decrease in interest expense from the fourth quarter of 2024 was primarily driven by a decrease in our average outstanding borrowings and a decrease in the weighted average rate on our credit facilities, resulting from decreases in the benchmark index interest rates. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:22:34The ratio of our total operating expenses, excluding interest expense, as a percentage of our average total assets was 1.2% for the quarter on an annualized basis and 1.3% for the trailing 12-month period and continues to be among the lowest in our industry. Our External Investment Manager contributed $7.8 million to our net investment income during the first quarter, a decrease of $800,000 from the same quarter a year ago and $900,000 from the fourth quarter of 2024. The manager ended the quarter with total assets under management of $1.6 billion. During the quarter, we recorded net fair value appreciation, including net realized losses and net unrealized depreciation on the investment portfolio of $33.6 million. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:23:26This increase was driven by net fair value appreciation in our lower-middle market investment portfolio, partially offset by net fair value depreciation in our External Investment Manager, our private loan investment portfolio, and middle market investment portfolio. The net fair value appreciation in our lower-middle market portfolio was largely driven by the continued positive performance of certain of our portfolio companies. The net fair value depreciation of our External Investment Manager was primarily driven by decreases in the valuation multiples of publicly traded peers, which we use as one of the benchmarks for valuation purposes. The net fair value depreciation in our private loan portfolio was driven by increases in market spreads, partially offset by the impact of specific portfolio company performance. The net fair value depreciation in our middle market portfolio was driven by the impact of specific portfolio company performance. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:24:28We recognized net realized losses of $29.5 million in the quarter. The realized losses recognized were primarily the result of the exit or restructure of several long-standing underperforming investments, partially offset by a realized gain on the exit of a private loan equity investment. We ended the fourth quarter with investments on non-accrual status comprising 1.7% of the total investment portfolio at fair value and approximately 4.5% at cost. Net asset value, or NAV, increased by $0.38 per share over the fourth quarter and by $2.49, or 8.4% when compared to a year ago, to a record NAV per share of $32.03 at quarter end. Our regulatory debt-to-equity leverage, calculated as total debt excluding our SBIC debentures, divided by Net Asset Value, was 0.67 times, and our regulatory asset coverage was 2.48 times. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:25:32These ratios continue to be more conservative than our long-term target ranges of 0.8-0.9 times and 2.1-2.25 times, respectively. Given our liquidity position, we were less active during the first quarter in our at-the-market, or ATM, program, raising net proceeds of $5.1 million from equity issuances. In April, we amended our corporate credit facility, decreasing the interest rate by 10 basis points prior to satisfying certain conditions, or 22.5 basis points after satisfying certain conditions, increasing our total commitments $35 million and extending the maturity to April 2030. Additionally, we also amended our SPV Credit Facility by decreasing the interest rate by 40 basis points and extending the maturity to September 2030. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:26:25After giving effect to the capital activities in the first quarter of 2025 and recent credit facility amendments in April 2025, we entered the second quarter with strong liquidity, including cash and availability under our credit facilities in excess of $1.3 billion, with only one near-term debt maturity of $150 million in December 2025. We continue to believe that our conservative leverage, strong liquidity, and continued access to capital are significant strengths that have proven to benefit us historically and have us well-positioned for the future, allowing us to continue to execute our attractive investment strategies. As discussed last quarter, with this current level of liquidity, we currently expect to fund our new net investment activity in 2025 through a greater portion of debt financing, and as such, we would expect leverage to continue to increase during the course of the year. Ryan NelsonCFO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:27:17However, we expect to continue to operate throughout the year at leverage levels more conservative than our long-term targets. Coming back to our operating results, DNII per share for the quarter of $1.07 decreased from DNII per share for the first quarter last year by 4 cents and decreased from the DNII per share for the fourth quarter by 1 cent. Looking forward, we expect headwinds on top-line earnings related to the potential decrease in floating market rates and potential tariff impacts. Given the strength of our underlying portfolio, we expect favorable earnings in the second quarter of 2025 with expected DNII of at least $1.03 per share, with the potential for upside driven by portfolio investment activities during the quarter and a favorable outcome to the current market uncertainty. With that, I will now turn the call back over to the operators so we can take any questions. Operator00:28:15Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. Our first question is from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please proceed. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:28:43Hi, guys. I appreciate the commentary on the strength of the portfolio companies, but can you be any more explicit maybe on what tariff exposure you have in the portfolio? I mean, obviously, you do not have international businesses in there, but is there offshore manufacturing of some parts or anybody who is particularly exposed to imported raw materials or anything like that? Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:29:19Any color you can give us on that front on what the overall kind of feel for the exposure is there. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:29:24Sure, Robert. Good morning, and thanks for the question. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:29:28Good morning. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:29:29We've talked about this before in the past, but if we look at our portfolio, and I'll split the comments between lower-middle market and private loan because we just have more visibility into the lower-middle market portfolio companies given our position as a significant equity owner there. Most of our companies, particularly in the lower-middle market, they are U.S. businesses. They're manufacturing in the U.S. They're selling to U.S. customers. They're buying or purchasing from U.S. vendors. We look at the lower-middle market portfolio as a whole and think that we've got some limited exposure there. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:30:04As you would expect us to be doing, and as David, I think, commented in his script, we have been and continue to talk frequently with the management teams of our lower-middle market portfolio companies to understand their risk and then help them collectively with us figure out ways to mitigate that risk. As we went through that process, our view is that in the lower-middle market, somewhere close to a high single-digit %, and I give you that number as a % based upon looking at the portfolio a couple of different ways, looking at it by actual portfolio count, looking at it on both a cost or fair value basis. On each of those different metrics, it would be a high single-digit % that we think has meaningful exposure to tariffs. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:30:46As you said, we think that the most significant exposure impacts would be from those companies that are directly importing finished goods. The good news on that side is we have some exposure there, but it is fairly limited, and we think it's very manageable. When we look at the portfolio more broadly, we would say that there's probably another 10-20% that has some level of exposure, and that's not specific to Main Street. We just think that's the result of the global nature of the economy and business today. If you're in industrial businesses, manufacturing, services related to industrial businesses, you're going to have some exposure. We look at that and say that those companies have some level of direct or indirect exposure to tariffs. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:31:30One of the things that we always look at is that just having exposure to tariffs on its own does not necessarily mean that there's going to be a negative result or impact. It just means that those companies that have that exposure, you have to be taking steps to mitigate it. That's where we take comfort in the fact that our management teams of our portfolio companies have been through this type of a scenario before. If you look back at the COVID-19 pandemic time period and the resulting supply chain issues and inflation that came out of it, they've been through that. We have the view that our management teams have dealt with this type of a scenario before, and we're confident that they're going to do a good job in mitigating the risk, whether that means pushing through price increases or finding alternative sourcing. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:32:12We feel pretty good about where we sit, but we do acknowledge that we have some level of exposure there when you look across the portfolio. On the private loan and middle market side, really the private loan side because that's where the remainder of our portfolio really sits outside of lower-middle market. I'd say it's similar. Most of these companies are also predominantly U.S. companies. We think that the risk is a little bit similar to what we have on the lower-middle market side. We do take comfort in the fact that we are largely first-lien, senior-secured lenders. You have a lot of cushion in the capital structure beneath our position to help us mitigate our risk there. We are actively working with the portfolio companies and the private equity sponsors, similar to the lower-middle market, to understand what that risk is. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:32:58When we look at the companies on that side of our portfolio that have meaningful direct exposure, the way we would quantify it is it's a handful of companies. We'll also note that a couple of those companies are already on non-accrual and/or they've had significant fair value depreciation. When we look at our results from an income standpoint or from an NAV or fair value standpoint, we think the fact that we've already got those on non-accrual and some fair value depreciation further mitigates the risk to some extent. Similar to the lower-middle market, just because they have the exposure doesn't mean that they're going to have significant negative impacts. We look at trying to understand what those companies are doing to mitigate the risk, again, either through pushing through price increases or looking for alternative sourcing or other activities to mitigate it. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:33:46While we do have some risk there, we think it is still limited, and we feel good about the manner in which our management teams and portfolio companies should be able to mitigate that risk. Obviously, if the situation becomes more significant or more negative than it is today, or if the time period gets drawn out, that risk could change in the future. As we sit here today, I think we feel pretty good about our risk and the steps that our portfolio companies are taking to mitigate it. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:34:14Very, very helpful. Thank you for that. On the private loan in the pipeline, I mean, you characterize it as average. It does seem like that is dealing with slightly larger, more sponsor-backed companies. Obviously, we have heard a lot about M&As, muted, etc., and maybe getting more so at the moment. Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:34:41Why is it still average? Average seems good in this environment. Can you give us any color of why your pipeline there is still kind of average-ish given the amount of volatility and what seems to be a pretty muted M&A market right now? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:34:56Sure, Robert. I'll give a few comments, and I'll let Nick, who, as you know, leads our private credit business, add on. I'd say the reason we view it as average today is we've got a large portfolio there, and we're seeing a number of those companies that, despite the uncertain environment, their businesses are doing well, and they're having opportunities to grow, whether that's acquisition or organic. They're coming to us, and they're looking for additional add-on loans or debt investments from us to help them facilitate that growth. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:35:27I think that's part of the reason we have it at average. We're also continuing to see a number of kind of new investment opportunities that we think, despite the current uncertain environment, we think they're underwritten correctly, they're priced correctly. All things being equal, if the transaction closes, we'll continue to find those opportunities attractive from a new portfolio standpoint. I'll let Nick add any additional color he wants to add to that. Nick MeserveManaging Director at Main Street Capital Corporation00:35:51Yeah, Robert, I mean, I think you are right. It is a muted M&A environment, but with that is also less repayments. I think from the pipeline perspective, it is average. I think we're seeing both new deals and add-ons. The add-ons in the portfolio have increased over the last two to three years as the number in the portfolio has increased. Nick MeserveManaging Director at Main Street Capital Corporation00:36:12I think what's TBD still is going to be in some of the uncertainty is do some of these transactions close or not. I think we'll know more in the next three or six months of where does the tariff noise go? Do we actually close and finish those transactions, or do they get pushed out a little bit? Robert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond James00:36:25Thank you. Excellent. Nick MeserveManaging Director at Main Street Capital Corporation00:36:29Thank you, Robert. Operator00:36:30Our next question is from Mark Hughes with Truist Securities. Please proceed. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:36:36Yeah, thank you. In thinking about your kind of non-recurring income items, the dividends from investments, I think you've got some variability there. Is there any concern that those might slow down, or are the portfolio companies perhaps going to be a little more conservative with their balance sheets, or is that not so much of an issue? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:37:02Yeah, Mark, good morning, and thanks for the question. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:37:06I'd say that we do always have that concern. The dividend income component of our income streams is always going to be the most variable or most discretionary. I'd say as we sit here today, and as you've heard us say in the past, we have a number of our lower-middle market companies that are not just doing well; they're doing really well. They've been doing well for a long time. As a result, their capital structure is such that it's kind of very conservative, limited amounts of leverage. As they continue to produce significant cash flow, that cash flow has to go somewhere. It's increasingly coming out of those companies to us and the other equity owners of those businesses through dividend income. I think it is something we watch. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:37:46It is something that if the economy was to take a big step back, particularly if that step back was for an extended period of time, that dividend income would be at more risk. As we look at the current portfolio, the current results we're seeing from the companies, and more importantly, the dialogue we're hearing, while there clearly is a lot of uncertainty out there, the companies are still doing well. We expect at least for the second quarter to continue to see good amounts of dividend income coming out of those companies. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:38:13Yeah. You obviously described a nice, attractive $55 million gain here in the second quarter. I think in earlier calls, you had alluded to the fact that there were some potential realizations in the pipeline. Is there more to come? Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:38:35Anything you've got visibility for, or is it just kind of business per usual? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:38:41Yeah, Mark, I would say it's probably more in line with business as usual. There's always going to be some level of activity in the lower-middle market portfolio where you've got 80-plus companies. There's always going to be some level of activity ongoing. After the very, very attractive realized gain that we had in late December with Pearl Meyer and now the gain here in the second quarter, those were really the two large exit activities that we've been talking about. Obviously, both of those are great companies. We're a little torn on seeing them leave the portfolio. At the same time, the realized gains and the returns from an equity investment standpoint, we consider them to be best in class. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:39:17When you have that opportunity, it also makes sense if our partners in the businesses, the management teams of those companies want to pursue that transaction, we're going to help them pursue it to the best outcome possible. Those are two of the primary transactions that we've been talking about for the last few quarters. I would say that things are more back to kind of ordinary course from an exit activity expectation standpoint. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:39:43One other question. You've got a long holding period, obviously, with your equity investments. When you get to a period like this in the economy, does that create opportunity for you that you can look at something that perhaps is maybe a little more exposed or experiencing a little more volatility because you've got a longer horizon? Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:40:11Alternatively, you tighten things up, and certainly you want to stay as disciplined as you have been historically. Does this create opportunity where others do not step in, but you have the potential to do so? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:40:29Yeah, Mark, absolutely. I would say that our view has always been, not just here recently, but for the last two decades, that we want to make sure that we maintain a very conservative capital structure and, more importantly, a very significant amount of liquidity so that we can always be active in the marketplace. That includes time periods where the economy is humming and things are going really, really well. It also includes time periods where there is significant uncertainty. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:40:53Just to give you a point of reference that you may recall, but just for your benefit, if you look at both Pearl Meyer and Heritage VetPartners or NVS VetPartners or Services, both of those transactions were executed during COVID. Pearl Meyer, from memory, was May of 2020. Heritage VetPartners was December of 2020. Most firms, from our perspective, were not active during those time periods. They were not traveling. They were not going to see people in person. We were to the extent we could. Those activities led us to two transactions that were just fantastic opportunities. They fit us really, really well in terms of us being a partner with the individual owner-operators, the management teams of those businesses. They were also fantastic businesses. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:41:41Our ability and desire to continue to be active in all time periods led us to two transactions that obviously were really, really good transactions for us. Not just for us, but they were really good transactions for those management teams. You should expect us, just like we have been in the past, great recession, COVID-19 pandemic, etc., you should expect us to seek to be active. Obviously, the counterparty has to want to transact as well. We feel good about our expectations to be active, even if there continues to be significant uncertainty in the marketplace. The goal for us is to always, first and foremost, on the lower-middle market strategy, just to find best-in-class individuals, management teams that have been in their business for a long time, where we have opportunities to become their partner. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:42:30We've always found that super attractive, and we'll always find that super attractive in the future. I'll let David add on if he has any additional color or commentary there. I think Dwayne covered most, but the last thing I'd add is that with the seasoned nature of our portfolio, those companies naturally have less leverage than the rest of the portfolio. Those managers are waiting for opportunities and times. They're tracking acquisition targets over extended periods of time, having been in the industry to their partners for a very long period of time. We do see more activity in those portfolio companies on doing strategic acquisitions and/or putting growth capital into the companies when the opportunity is right. Mark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist Securities00:43:08Appreciate that. Thank you. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:43:11Thank you, Mark. Operator00:43:13Our next question is from Douglas Harter with UBS. Please proceed. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:43:19Hi. This is actually Corey Johnson on for Douglas. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:43:26You mentioned wanting to bring leverage up, but perhaps not to your target range. Could you just talk maybe a little bit about the pace of how you expect it to maybe trend throughout this year and what might be around the high mark? Are you looking to get maybe towards around the low end of your target range? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:43:50Sure, Corey. Thanks for joining us, and thanks for the question. I'd say that it's hard to really give a time period or even an amount of leverage we'll get to at the end of the year. It's obviously going to be highly dependent upon the investment activity, which, as we just talked about, could be more uncertain or more muted, both on the lower-middle market side and the private loan side, just given what's going on in the economy. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:44:14I'd say the guidance we are giving is that as we execute growth of the portfolio, both lower-middle market and private loan, our plan is to utilize more of our debt capacity as opposed to additional equity issuances over time to increase that leverage ratio so that it moves more in line with our range and continue to be conservative, but moving in the direction of increasing leverage to be closer to the target range. Again, the timing and the ability to do that is primarily going to be dependent upon the pace of new investment activity. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:44:47All right. Thank you. Additionally, so you've had your operational expense ratio come down this quarter. Do you see any, is there any additional capacity that you think to be able to bring down your ratio as you continue to scale up? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:45:15Sure, Corey. I think we always view there being an opportunity to continue to become more efficient. It's one of the biggest benefits of our structures and internally managed BDC. I would say that where you look at where we are today, realistically, there's not a ton of room there. The variability, quarter to quarter, year to year, as we sit here today, is going to be more focused on the incentive portion of our compensation and how are we performing from an operating performance standpoint, both the income statement, ROE, performance, as well as new investment activity. Those are going to be the biggest drivers, just like they have been in the past, that drive our incentive comp. If we're doing really, really well, there'll be more incentive comp. If we're not doing as well, there'll be less. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:45:59The variability in our incentive comp will be the biggest factor that drives that expense ratio. Again, we think that's one of the biggest strengths. If we outperform, our team is going to have some additional comp. If we head into a tough environment, there'll be less incentive comp that, again, directly aligns with the performance and the benefits we're providing to our shareholders. Again, we think it's one of the biggest benefits of our structure and one of the things that has served us so well for 20 years. Corey JohnsonAnalyst at UBS00:46:26Great. Thank you. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:46:29Thank you. Operator00:46:30Our next question is from Sean Paul Adams with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:46:37Hey, guys. Good morning. I dialed a little bit in late, so apologies if this already got answered. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:46:46Can you talk about your current expectations for the scale growth and run rate for earnings from the MSC Adviser going forward? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:46:57Sure. Thanks for joining, and thanks for the question. On our contributions from MSCI Adviser, I would say as we sit here today, the biggest catalyst or biggest event was the transaction that happened in January of this year where we were successful in completing a listing and an equity offering for MSC Income Fund. Now that that activity is behind us and we look forward, the future growth on the base side is really going to be focused on deployment of capital at MSC Income Fund. As you see us have more activity, you'll see the base management fee come up. That number will be directly correlated with the investment activity. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:47:39The incentive fee is by far the biggest variable, which, again, varies with our performance, not just at MSC Income Fund, but also at the private loan funds we have. I think we feel pretty good about where we are with the performance of those vehicles and would expect to continue to see incentive fee income going forward. As you look out maybe one quarter forward, I think something in line with where we were in the first quarter would be a good number to expect for the second quarter. As you look out further than that, it is all going to be dependent upon our pace of investment activity and then just the overall economic performance and what that means for the performance of our portfolio companies and our net investment income at those asset management business clients. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:48:19Thank you. Just a quick follow-up, if I can. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:48:25Could you just walk us through some of the implied exit multiples embedded in the LMM equity portfolio versus where you see the market transacting today? David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:48:35Yeah. If I understand your question, one, there are details in our 10Q that will give you those numbers. I'd say that there is not a lot of variability or movement quarter to quarter. Our goal with our kind of quarterly valuation process is that you are getting to a valuation multiple for each of the companies that is what that transaction should close at in a marketed process. Obviously, you have transactions like Heritage VetPartners and Pearl Meyer, where as you enter into a process, if that process goes well, you will see significant value expansion, primarily not on EBITDA, but primarily on the multiple. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:49:18If you look back at the history on both Pearl Meyer and Heritage VetPartners, you'll see there was significant fair value appreciation as we went to market, kind of went through an auction or sale process, and got to a good outcome. In general, the fair value process we have is the goal of that is to provide a valuation that you think it would transact at in the open marketplace. Sean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:49:42Got it. Thank you for the color. I appreciate it. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:49:46Thank you. Operator00:49:47As a reminder, to star one on your telephone keypad, if you would like to ask a question, we will pause for one brief moment to see if there's any final questions. With no further questions, I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:50:08I just want to say thank you again, everyone, for joining us this morning. David MagdolPresident and CIO at Main Street Capital Corporation00:50:11We appreciate the continued support of our shareholders, and we look forward to having everyone join us again for our next call in August after the release of our results for the second quarter. Operator00:50:20Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesZach VaughanHead of Investor RelationsDwayne HyzakCEODavid MagdolPresident and CIONick MeserveManaging DirectorRyan NelsonCFOAnalystsRobert DoddManaging Director and Senior Equity Analyst at Raymond JamesCorey JohnsonAnalyst at UBSMark HughesEquity Analyst at Truist SecuritiesSean AdamsResearch Analyst at B. Riley SecuritiesPowered by