B.O.S. Better Online Solutions Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Revenue jumped 36% year-over-year to $11.5 million in Q2, driving net income up 53% to $765K (EPS $0.13) and boosting EBITDA to $900K.
  • Positive Sentiment: Raised full-year guidance to $45–48 million in revenue and $2.6–3.1 million in net income, reflecting roughly 16% organic growth.
  • Positive Sentiment: Contracted backlog climbed back to $24 million and cash reserves grew to $5.2 million, enhancing visibility into the second half and financial flexibility.
  • Negative Sentiment: RFID division gross margin slipped to 19.1% from 21.1%, triggering a $700K non-cash goodwill charge and restructuring efforts through Q4.
  • Positive Sentiment: Defense sales now exceed 60% of total revenue, with deepening partnerships with Rafael, Elbit and direct IDF bids, plus expansion initiatives in India and the U.S.
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B.O.S. Better Online Solutions Q2 2025
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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the B.O.S. conference call. All participants are at present in listen-only mode. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available on the B.O.S. website as of tomorrow. Before I turn the call over to Mr. Cohen, I would like to remind everyone that forward-looking statements for the respective company's business, financial condition, and results of its operations are subject to risk and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated. Such forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, product demand, pricing, market acceptance, changing economic conditions, risks in product and technology development, and the effect of the company's accounting policies, as well as certain other Risk Factors which are detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the various securities authorities.

Operator

I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Eyal Cohen, CEO. Mr. Cohen, please go ahead.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Good morning. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to B.O.S. Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. I am joined today by our CFO, Mr. Moshe Zeltzer. On our previous calls, I emphasized our focus on the defense sector while diversifying our customer base. That strategy is paying off. I'm excited to share what has been another exceptional quarter for B.O.S. as the momentum from our record-setting First quarter continued in the second. We have delivered our strongest revenue growth in recent years, with sales jumping 36% year-over-year to $11.5 million this quarter. This growth has been driven primarily by the exceptional performance of our Supply Chain Division, which increased revenues by 57% to $8.3 million this quarter. While we are addressing some temporary challenges in our RFID Division, the overall trajectory gives us confidence for the remainder of 2025.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Profitability. Our net income surged 53% to $765,000 compared to the same quarter last year. That is $0.13 of earnings per share just in the Second Quarter. This outpaced our revenue growth, which tells us we are not just chasing top-line numbers; we are building a more efficient operation and leveraging our scale to drive profit efficiency. Our EBITDA increased to $900,000, up from about $800,000 in the Second Quarter of 2024. This gives us the operational cash flow we need to invest in growth while maintaining financial stability. Now, let's talk about our contracted backlog and what it tells us about business momentum. We ended 2024 with a record $27 million in contracted backlog. As expected, it declined to $22 million by March this year as we executed on those contracts and converted backlog to revenue for a record First Quarter result.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Our backlog has grown back to $24 million as of June 30th this year, giving us increasingly clear visibility into the back half of the year. Our financial foundation has never been stronger. Cash and equivalents grew to $5.2 million, up from $3.6 million at the year-end. Combined with $24 million in total equity, we have the resources to execute our expansion plans without compromising operational stability. We have the flexibility to capitalize on opportunities as they arise, whether that's supporting organic growth or pursuing strategic acquisitions. Based on that, we are seeing in our business and our contracted activity for the second half, we are raising our full-year guidance. We now expect revenue between $45 million and $48 million, that's up from our previous guidance of $44 million.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

At the midpoint, it's about 16% year-over-year, and that is entirely organic growth from our business initiatives before any additional benefit of possible strategic initiatives. More importantly, we are raising our net income guidance up from $2.5 million to between $2.6 million and $3.1 million. At the midpoint, it's about 24% year-over-year. This reflects not just stronger revenue expectations, but our confidence in our ability to convert that revenue into bottom-line results, plus profit leverage as we scale the operating base of our business. Our guidance is based on concrete contracted activity with both existing and new customers, diligent execution, and commitment to deliver the best results for our stakeholders. With that, I will turn the call over to Moshe to cover the financials.

Moshe Zeltzer
CFO at BOS

Thank you, Eyal. I'd like to focus on some of the operational dynamics that are driving these results and address a few specific items that deserve your attention. While we are thrilled with our revenue growth and our net income, we see additional opportunity in our margin performance. That is an area we are focused to improve and deliver even better bottom-line performance in the future. Our overall gross profit margin was 23% compared to 26% in the same quarter last year. This quarter's margins were a little lower than target, while last year was higher than typical. We are aiming to achieve a balance in the middle where we can deliver sustained performance. Let me break this down by division so we can understand how we can drive even better performance down the road. Our RFID Division saw a gross profit margin temporarily decrease to 19.1% from 21.1%.

Moshe Zeltzer
CFO at BOS

This was primarily due to certain service line challenges that we are already identifying and addressing. We have implemented restructuring initiatives, and we expect this division to return to normalized performance levels by Q4 2025. Our Supply Chain Division delivered a 24% gross profit margin, which is within our expected parameters. The 28% margin in Q2 2024 benefited from a particularly favorable product mix that quarter, so the current level represents a more sustainable baseline. As part of the RFID restructuring, we recorded a non-cash goodwill charge of $700,000 this quarter. This charge was largely offset by $696,000 in favorable currency fluctuation between the U.S. dollar and the Israel new shekel. Our cash position improvement to $5.2 million reflects strong operational cash generation supplemented by $400,000 from warrants and option exercises in the Second Quarter. We are managing working capital efficiently while supporting our growth trajectory.

Moshe Zeltzer
CFO at BOS

The increase in deferred revenue to $3.2 million from $2 million at year-end indicates strong advanced booking and provides additional confidence in our near-term revenue visibility. Thank you, and now let's open it up for your questions.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Please unmute yourself if you want to ask a question.

Todd Felty
Senior Analyst at Stonix Wealth Management

Good morning, guys. This is Todd Felty from Stonix Wealth Management. Congratulations on a great quarter and raising the guidance and the strong outlook. Just had a couple of quick questions. What percent of your revenue is now defense-based?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

It's more than 60% of our total consolidated revenues, and we anticipate that it will grow in year 2026 because of the growing demand in this defense segment.

Todd Felty
Senior Analyst at Stonix Wealth Management

Okay, and is that defense business, is it mostly directly with the IDF, or is it through other companies like Rafael or Elbit Systems?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Yeah, it's mostly through Rafael, Elbit Systems, and Israel Aerospace Industries. Recently, we are bidding directly with the IDF. As you know, our new Director, new Board Member, has a good record in the IDF, and he is helping us to open the gate there.

Todd Felty
Senior Analyst at Stonix Wealth Management

Okay, your tax loss carryforward is still around $60 million, but only an Israel-based company could take advantage of that if they acquired you, is that correct?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

I think even if a foreign company will acquire the control on B.O.S., still the company is registered in Israel, and if it continues to generate profit, it won't pay taxes, regardless of the holder of the company.

Todd Felty
Senior Analyst at Stonix Wealth Management

Okay, I know you've talked about M&A activity, but help me understand why someone like an Elbit Systems, which is Israel-based and is, you know, they're NASDAQ listed with a $450 stock price and a $20+ billion market cap. Why wouldn't they acquire you for one-time sales or $8 a share or $48 million and then take advantage of the $60 million tax loss carryforward? Is there antitrust laws or something that I'm missing there?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

No, I don't think there is any limitation to do that. I think maybe it's their strategic move which company to acquire. I don't think there is any obstacle to do it.

Todd Felty
Senior Analyst at Stonix Wealth Management

Okay, on you guys acquiring other companies, have you made any progress or are there any targets out there that you're willing to discuss at this point?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Yeah, as I mentioned in previous quarters, we all the time have at least two opportunities on the table. We are checking, we are, and we have all the tools to go ahead once we decided that the company is, it is a one that we will acquire. We are checking, negotiating, and once we see it's a good deal for our shareholders, we will do it.

Todd Felty
Senior Analyst at Stonix Wealth Management

Okay, thank you very much for taking my questions, and congratulations again on an outstanding quarter.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Thank you, too.

Scott Weis
President and CEO at Semco

[crosstalk] This is Scott Weis with Semco. Can I ask a quejustion?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Yes, please.

Scott Weis
President and CEO at Semco

Congrats on the great quarter, first of all. Can you highlight any new major customers in this quarter that you got, or did the bulk of the business come from your existing customer base?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

I think it's less new customers. We have new customers, but the more important is expanding the offering to the existing customer base. We are doing very well with the new line of products of the wiring for our clients in Israel, especially to our clients in India. It's going very well, and it's one of the growth engines of the revenues in 2025 and in 2026 as well.

Scott Weis
President and CEO at Semco

Okay, and then secondly and lastly, despite the raise on the guidance, it sounds like the second half is going to be down versus the first half of the year. Are there any seasonal headwinds? Can you flush that out, please?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Yeah, I think we had an exceptional First Quarter, as you remember, with record revenues which were exceptional. This is the reason why the second half of the year will be in a lower revenue rate and profit as compared to the first half of the year. Second, we have to take some cautions because we have the backlog that covers the year, the second half of the year, but we have to be cautious with the supply chain issue. Not all the time we'll be able to provide on time and to record the revenue on time, as we had the story in the 12th Fourth Quarter of year 2024 when some major orders were pushed to the First Quarter of year 2025. We saw the result.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

This is the reason why we gave some conservative estimation for the second half of the year with the range that we will be in between.

Scott Weis
President and CEO at Semco

Perfect. Thank you very much.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Thank you. Any further questions, please?

Yes, hello.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Go ahead, please.

Sorry. Congratulations on a great quarter. I was just wondering if you can shed a little bit more light on your Robotics Division and any new, you know, product roadmap that you may have.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Yes, we are, the Robotics Division is strategically focused on the defense client in Israel. The main client is Elbit Systems, which invests a huge amount of budget in establishing new factories, and those factories are supposed to work by robotic systems. We try to be involved in as many systems as we can. The backlog of this division is about $3 million. Actually, we can deliver it by the second half of the year, but there are some delays from our client that their facility is not ready to install. It will be ready in the second half of the year, so it will be a great year for the Robotics Division.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Meanwhile, there is one system of robotics line, production line of Elbit Systems, which is on the road to one country, to a European country, and it will be the first installation of our line in Europe through our client. We hope that there will be more sites like that through Elbit around the world.

Just a quick follow-up. Currently, it's just so concentrated on one customer. I'm just wondering if you have a feel for potentially repurposing this technology into other industries, and especially I'm interested in the U.S. Do you have any feelers for what you could do for the U.S. market?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

We can do for the U.S. market, but through our client because they are doing the sale, and we provide the tank solution for the automation line. I think it's more safety for us to work in that way. In Israel, we also work in the civil market, especially in logistics centers when we provide robotics sales for mainly palletizing. Our major focus is the defense for at least the coming two or three years. I think we can increase the business significantly once we grab more projects from Elbit Systems. There are projects, there are budgets.

Thank you.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Thank you.

Scott Weis
President and CEO at Semco

I'll add one follow-up. From an industrial relations perspective, you guys had previously indicated you're going to be in the U.S. doing some marketing. Have you firmed up those plans yet? What dates and what cities will you be here?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

I think NATO is on the call, and I think next week we will let you know to all the investors that are interested to meet me. We'll send the schedule. I believe it will be in October. I will be happy to meet you soon.

Scott Weis
President and CEO at Semco

Thank you.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Any further questions?

Sorry, I'm not quite sure how to get on the queue. Could I ask a question now?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Sorry?

Could I ask a question? I'm not sure how to properly get on the queue. I apologize.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Yeah.

I have a question about a little bit about the defense spending, which this year is obviously the major part of your revenue. What do you think is going to, how much of it is cyclicality? Obviously, there was a war with Iran. There is a war in Gaza, unfortunately, still ongoing. The budget is elevated. I understand that the defense budget in Israel is higher than the previous years and probably continues growing. How much of your business is actually due to replenishing of Elbit Systems and Rafael, of the exhaust stocks of the defense after especially the, you know, war with Iran and also the operations in Gaza?

What do you think would happen like one or two years down the road if hopefully the peace will prevail? How would it impact your revenue?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

I think that the Israel defense industry is a strong industry even before the war. They are big exporters. They are leaders in the world defense industry, and they will continue to do so for many, many years. We are trying to touch them. They are giant. We are small. Every piece of budget that we can grab, it has a fantastic and significant influence on us. Regardless, at this point, we see, we feel that in the coming two years, there will be extensive budget expansion due to the level of munition in the warehouses and due to opening, establishing new production lines. By the way, most of it due to the embargo in Israel.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

The decision of the Israel government was to establish a production line of munition that previously were bought from Europe and from the U.S. We believe that this situation will push the Israel economy, and the defense industry will be the leaders in the Israel economy. Strategically, this is the place that we want to stick to.

My other question, it's also related to defense, is about the international opportunities. Especially, obviously, encouraging sales to India. Do you see significant expanding of your opportunities, given that obviously the Israel military showcased itself to be superior during the recent events? How do you see the future expanding in other countries? Is it a direct work with the companies, or is this basically through your subcontracting with Rafael, Elbit Systems, and other Israel companies?

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Yeah, I think the major country we are focusing on is India because it's a world hub for assembly that serves the defense industry. We see that I visited there recently, and I saw buildings of one building serving the Israel Aerospace Industries, other building serving Elbit Systems, other building serving Boeing, etc. It's a hub, and this is a place that we want to expand our business, regardless of the business that we are doing with the subcontractor of Rafael and Elbit Systems in India. We want to do direct business with the assembly industry in India, and we even are considering to open a local office in India to grab more business opportunities over there. By the way, especially in our line of cabling and wiring.

Thank you very much. I do not have any more questions.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

Thank you. Any further questions? Okay, thank you. As we look ahead, I'm optimistic about several key factors. First, market positioning. Our focus on the defense, industrial, and retail sectors positions us in markets with sustained demand for our supply chain optimization and automation solutions. Second, technology integration. The convergence of our three divisions, the Robotics Division, the RFID Division, and the Supply Chain Division, is creating a unique value proposition for customers who will need comprehensive solutions. Third, customer relationships. We are seeing deeper engagement with existing customers and successful expansion into new accounts. Our $34 million backlog reflects this growing confidence in our capabilities. Q2 represents more than just strong quarterly results. It demonstrates the effectiveness of our strategic focus, the strength of our market position, and the capabilities of our team. We are building sustainable, profitable growth while maintaining the financial flexibility to capitalize on future opportunities.

Eyal Cohen
CEO at BOS

With our raised guidance for 2025, we are confident in our trajectory. Thank you for joining us today, and please don't hesitate to reach out if you need additional information or would like to schedule a follow-up discussion by phone or during my visit in the U.S. during October. Have a great day, and thank you again.

Moshe Zeltzer
CFO at BOS

Bye-bye. Thank you.

Analysts
    • Eyal Cohen
      CEO at BOS
    • Moshe Zeltzer
      CFO at BOS
    • Scott Weis
      President and CEO at Semco
    • Todd Felty
      Senior Analyst at Stonix Wealth Management
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