Sezzle Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 7, 2025

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Sezzle delivered 76% revenue growth year-over-year in Q2 2025 with a 61% gross margin, 28% net income margin, and a Rule of 100 score of 165, reaffirming full-year guidance.
  • Positive Sentiment: Marketing investment increased to $8.8 million (vs. $1 million last year), targeting efficient customer acquisition with a six-month payback period expected by year-end.
  • Positive Sentiment: Product enhancements boosted engagement, achieving an NPS of 75, 52% growth in monthly active users, and a 138% increase in revenue-generating engagement year-over-year.
  • Positive Sentiment: Unit economics and cost discipline improved as transaction-related costs fell to 4.1% of GMV, provisions remained within targets at 2.2% of GMV, and non-transaction OpEx dropped to 28.1% of revenue.
  • Negative Sentiment: The Shopify lawsuit remains unresolved with no major updates and could take an estimated three to five years to conclude, posing ongoing legal uncertainty.
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Earnings Conference Call
Sezzle Q2 2025
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There are 5 speakers on the call.

Speaker 4

Today, and welcome to the Sezzle Inc. second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Our participants are in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, if it has been addressed, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I will now like to turn our conference call over to Mr. Charlie Youakim. Mr. Youakim, the floor is yours, sir.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Sezzle Inc.'s second quarter conference call for 2025. I'm Charlie Youakim, CEO and Executive Chairman of Sezzle Inc. I'm joined today by our Chief Financial Officer, Karen Hartje, and our Head of Corporate Development and Investor Relations, Lee Brading. In conjunction with this conference call, we filed our earnings announcement with the SEC and posted it and the earnings presentation on our investor website at sezzle.com. To retrieve the documents, please go to the Investor Relations section of our website. There you will find the press release and the earnings presentation. Please be advised of the cautionary note on forward-looking statements and the reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures included in the presentation, which also covers our statements on today's call. It's exciting and fun at the moment at Sezzle Inc.

Speaker 3

as we've noticed we continue to disrupt the existing payments industry. I'm sure you've noticed it just like we have, as it seems like there's an article coming out every other week in a major publication talking about the growth of BNPL and its impact on the world. Some of these publications get it and understand that this product helps consumers budget and manage their spending. Others don't and just regurgitate the standard "consumers using credit is bad" mantra that's been out there since the invention of the credit card. Even with the negative press, we're happy, as it means that we must be doing something right as we are upsetting the traditional norm. We are getting noticed. With that credit mantra in mind, we do think our path somewhat mirrors the original Buy Now, Pay Later product, the credit card. Credit cards first emerged in the 1950s.

Speaker 3

Now, I imagine most of the people on this call weren't around then, but since the launch of credit cards, there's been a lot of public pushback from the media warning of reckless spending or debt traps. A number of reputed publications in the 1950s, including The New York Times, expressed public concern over "plastic money" leading to financial irresponsibility. Sound familiar? Nonetheless, by 1970, about 50% of U.S. households had at least one credit card. I think that we can all agree that credit cards and their usage, despite some of their issues, are an important part of our economy. We think BNPL will evolve into a similar story, including the pushback from the media along the way. Sezzle has certainly tapped into a need that is not being met by other traditional forms of payment.

Speaker 3

We welcome the scrutiny as we believe it'll only bring to light how our products are helping consumers and how they are the responsible way to pay. Our flexibility allows payments to be matched to budgets, which is critically important for a large segment of consumers. As a reminder, customers must be current with us, or they aren't allowed to continue to use us as a payment method. This is one of the key areas where we differ from credit cards. We think we have stronger alignment with responsible spending than a credit card does. We actively think about reducing limits for our consumers where warranted to stop overspending. I think some credit card companies welcome a bit of overspending, as that overspending can create a revolving account. Instead, we're active in stopping overspending, which creates incredible alignment with responsible behavior.

Speaker 3

I know most of you are here to hear about our results, so let's get to it. We're pleased to be sharing our second quarter results with you all this evening, as they clearly reflect the positive momentum in our business and our industry. Our Q2 results reflect strong momentum and also signal an increase in investment for the future. We continue to push forward as a profitable growth company, which is a concept that we fully embrace. Slide three gives a high-level snapshot of Q2, which shows our outperformance versus the industry. With a top line growth of 76% year over year, gross margins of 61%, and a net income margin of 28%, we remain well ahead of the rule of 40 and our own version, the rule of 100, where we scored a 165 this quarter.

Speaker 3

We are also still on pace with our guidance, which has adjusted net income rising 85% year over year in 2025. As the saying goes, talk is cheap, and we plan to keep letting our results do the talking. I referenced earlier our investment in the future and would like to expand on that thought on slide four. We are hyper-focused on reaching customers efficiently through our marketing efforts. Our marketing spend has been stepping up with a focus on customer acquisition and retention. For Q2, we spent $8.8 million on marketing compared to only $1 million in the prior year. We don't take this lightly, as we value every dollar, but we also believe that this is the right time for this future investment, as our profitability and positive free cash flow have positioned us well to both grow and reinvest.

Speaker 3

We are still in the early stages, but we expect to see returns before the end of the year, as we target a six-month payback period on our CAC. I believe our active consumer and MAUs results reflect the positive trends we are seeing, and I believe there is more to come. In prior years, our spending was more focused on merchant co-marketing, but over the last several quarters, we have shifted our marketing spend to more efficient channels. That improved efficiency will pay dividends in our future results. A key part of our strategy is to never stop innovating, especially as an industry underdog. A major part of our success has been our never-ending push to grow and expand our product offerings to consumers.

Speaker 3

On slide four, you can see that we have launched numerous product enhancements in the last few quarters, some more successful than others, but regardless, we will not rest. Slide five is a snippet of the positive results we are seeing from our efforts. I'm extremely proud of our NPS score of 75, which is an incredibly high score for a company offering financial solutions, and actually any company for that matter. These NPS results are important because it means our customers love using our products and services. You can clearly see that love is translating into greater engagement in our app. As discussed in the prior slide, we have launched a variety of products and features with the goal of finding more ways to engage the consumer, and the results reflect such traction. Monthly active users rose 52% year over year.

Speaker 3

Even more exciting, the engagement from revenue-generating users increased 138%. I believe we are in the early days of monetizing app users beyond just payments. The amounts are nominal at this point, but we believe it represents a large opportunity. On slide six, you can see that our marketing efforts for MAUs are paying off. MAUs rose 14% sequentially and 62% year over year. We are continuously fine-tuning our marketing spending to maximize ROI. Currently, we are hyper-focused on MAUs. These MAUs users have strong lifetime values due to the repeat and recurring nature of their interactions with Sezzle Inc., with subscription services at the forefront of that recurring engagement. As you might guess, there are differences in profitability between On-Demand, Premium, and Anywhere. All three have favorable economics, but lifetime values do vary.

Speaker 3

The highest lifetime values are in Anywhere because the product is just so easy to use and use again. I know many of you think of us as an online payment method, but take note, 37% of Anywhere orders are in store. This speaks to the value of the Anywhere product, giving consumers access to purchase whenever and wherever they want. Wherever Visa is. Last I checked, they're pretty much everywhere. Let's take a deeper dive on some key engagement metrics on slide seven. We continue to experience better year-over-year engagement as our connection with the consumer continues to grow. Our yearly active consumer growth almost hit double digits for the first time in quite a while. I believe the improved growth stems from the success coming out of our marketing efforts and our product enhancements.

Speaker 3

As I mentioned earlier, we are filling a need that is not being met by traditional payment methods. Nowhere is this more evident than our unique merchants number. Our consumers shopped at 412,000 different merchants during the quarter. That is not an insignificant number. It is so rewarding to see that we are providing access to places that, to many, were unavailable before. Further, our purchase frequency continues to show year-over-year growth, suggesting we are gaining top-of-wallet status. We believe this is still the early innings. On slide eight, our purchase frequency was flat sequentially. We attribute that to the launch of On-Demand, as it has shown a significant amount of growth in a very short time. Longer term, the short-term investment with On-Demand users will lead to greater profitability. Our On-Demand users are profitable, but just not as profitable as our Premium or Anywhere subscribers.

Speaker 3

Over time, we believe that On-Demand users will migrate further into our product suite and become future Anywhere enthusiasts. Also on slide eight, again, it's great to see the pickup in active consumers. We can say now that we have 2.9 million yearly active, and it does seem that we're on the move up with this metric as we continue to add features and services that enhance engagement. If you can't tell, I'm extremely excited about our momentum as we start to see the fruits of our investments in marketing and innovation. With that, I'm happy to turn the call over to our CFO, Karen Hartje, who will go over our quarterly financial results in greater detail. Karen?

Speaker 1

Thanks, Charlie, and good evening, everyone. As Charlie mentioned earlier, you'll see through our numbers that our initiatives continue to drive remarkable top-line growth, easily clearing our internal rule of 100. Turning to slide nine, second quarter total revenue grew 76.4% year over year to $98.7 million and adjusted net income nearly doubled, growing 91.8% year over year to $24.4 million. GAAP net income decreased slightly to $27.6 million, resulting from the recognition of an outsized $17.2 million discrete tax benefit in the second quarter of 2024, compared to a $3.2 million discrete tax benefit in 2023. As a reminder, the prior year's discrete tax benefit was attributable to the release of our deferred tax valuation allowance due to the company's profitable trajectory.

Speaker 1

Our margins also continue to expand with adjusted EBITDA margin and total revenue less transaction-related cost as a percentage of total revenue, improving 5.5 and 3.5 points respectively year over year. Lastly, despite our rapidly growing revenue and healthy margins, we still maintain strict cost discipline. Non-transaction-related operating expenses as a percentage of total revenue decreased 4.8 points year over year to 28.1%. Let's move on to slide 10, which breaks out our GMV and total revenue progression. GMV grew 74.2% year over year, driven by new product adoption and higher consumer engagement. Total revenue as a percentage of GMV, our take rate, improved slightly year over year to 10.6%.

Speaker 1

The sequential decrease aligns with historical trends as our first quarter take rate benefits from two main items: the spillover of payments from fourth quarter transactions into first quarter and the decline in purchase frequency from subscribers compared to the holiday season in fourth quarter. On slides 11 and 12, we detail our transaction-related costs, which include transaction expense, provision for credit losses, and net interest expense. These costs total $38.4 million, or 4.1% of GMV, down 40 basis points year over year. This improvement stems from continued optimization in payment processing and increased consumer use of ACH, driving our second quarter transaction expense down to 1.5% of GMV.

Speaker 1

This gain was partially offset by an increase in provision for credit losses to 2.2% of GMV, as we continue leaning into growth while meeting our stated target of 2.5% to 3% annual provision and unit economics of 60% to 65%, as witnessed on slide 13. Second quarter total revenue less transaction-related cost as a percentage of total revenue increased 87.2% year over year to $60.3 million and represented 61.1% of total revenue. Since we've touched on our unit economics, we want to showcase the health of our growth in underwriting on slide 14. Recall on our second quarter 2024 earnings call, we noted that we started expanding our risk tolerance by letting in more first-time users in mid-2024. We commented that we were expanding our risk tolerance but expected to maintain strong, stable margins, and we did just that.

Speaker 1

As you can see, we gave more consumers the opportunity to use Sezzle for the first time while also expanding our wallet share with existing consumers. Although we don't show consumer balances, the graph on the right clearly shows that we continue to successfully bifurcate our growth by expanding credit for non-delinquent consumers compared to delinquent users. As a side note, our understanding is that the lines are flipped for the credit card industry. This slide speaks volumes about our underwriting capabilities and reinforces our confidence in the health and sustainability of our growth trajectory. Turning to slide 15, you'll see that non-transaction-related operating expenses continue to remain well controlled. These expenses, which include personnel, technology, marketing, and G&A, total $27.7 million, up 50.4% year over year, but down 480 basis points as a percentage of revenue to 28.1%.

Speaker 1

The sequential rise in our non-transaction-related OpEx as a percentage of our total revenue stems from increased marketing spend, which grew 64% quarter over quarter to $8.8 million. As Charlie noted earlier, we're ramping up our marketing efforts with a target payback period of six months. Early indicators suggest we're on track to hit this target, and we expect to see the benefit when our first half investment comes to fruition in our third and fourth quarter results. Moving on to the last and arguably most vital component of our income statement metrics, our profitability, as seen on slides 16 and 17. Net income came in at $27.6 million, or 28% of revenue, down modestly year over year due to the outsized discrete tax benefit in the prior year quarter. Excluding discrete tax benefits, we achieved adjusted net income of $24.4 million, nearly doubling the prior comparable period in 2024.

Speaker 1

Adjusted EBITDA also increased at a similar pace, rising 106% to $37.9 million, representing 38.4% of total revenue. Looking at the balance sheet on slide 18, our cash remained flat quarter over quarter, largely driven by the increase in notes receivable from volume growth and the repurchase of $23.5 million of common stock as part of our $50 million repurchase program announced on March 10 of this year. We ended the quarter with $120 million in cash, including $31 million of restricted cash and availability on the line of credit of $4 million on our $150 million credit facility. Cash usage from operations for the quarter was $36.3 million, which again includes a $58.9 million increase in notes receivable tied to our GMV growth this quarter. The sequential decrease in operating cash flow is consistent with our expectations and historical cash flow seasonality.

Speaker 1

Finally, let's turn to slide 19, our outlook. We are reaffirming our full-year guidance across all key financial metrics of total revenue growth, total revenue less transaction-related costs as a % of total revenue, and adjusted net income and adjusted EPS. I'd like to call out that with $4.1 million of discrete tax benefits recognized year to date, that our GAAP net income will differ from our adjusted net income guidance of $120 million. For the first time, we are introducing a 2025 adjusted EBITDA target of $170 to $175 million. We remain committed to balanced growth, investing where we see efficient returns while holding the line on overhead and credit quality. We continue to monitor consumer trends and macro signals closely, but thus far, our core metrics show sustained growth and strength in engagement, frequency, and retention. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for Q&A.

Speaker 4

Thank you, ma'am. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you'd like to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Again, it is star, then one to ask a question. At this time, we will just pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question we have will come from Mike Grondahl of Northwood. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks, guys. Two questions. One, the 748,000 MAUs, could you talk a little bit about the mix of those between On-Demand, Premium, and Anywhere, how those have trended, and then kind of the profitability? Second, on the investment side in Q2, is that primarily marketing that you're calling out, the $8.8 million? Is there any other investment to call out or make us aware of? That would be great.

Speaker 3

On the second question, Mike, it's really the marketing investment on that line. Just the $8.8 million. On the mods, the primary area of growth in the mods number was mostly on On-Demand because it's a new popular product, which is kind of working the way we thought it would. It's a lower barrier to entry, getting more consumers into our, you know, the consumer side of our business, essentially, where they're making the choice to pay us directly. Subscribers, I think that they've actually held pretty well over this time period. That's why we, I think a couple of quarters back when we launched On-Demand, we said, expect some waviness in the numbers with subscribers because we know that On-Demand in a way, like mindset kind of way, it's a little bit competitive to the subscription products we have.

Speaker 3

I'd have to say we're pretty happy with where things are going. The split has been probably a lot of growth in On-Demand.

Speaker 3

Got it. How different is the profitability between an On-Demand customer and Premium or Anywhere?

Speaker 3

It's not like radically different. Anywhere is the most profitable because there's just so much usage. Like, you know, once you basically decide to subscribe to that product, it's like the customers made the, they've dived in. They, of course, like you said, with our NPS scores, they definitely love our product and they just kind of dive in and say, I want to use this everywhere. When you have more activity in the product, you get more profitability. Premium is a higher margin product than the others, so it maybe there's a little bit less than Anywhere in terms of usage per month or per time period, but it has such good margins that it does quite well. On-Demand is just, it's the lowest of the three right now in terms of margin as well as lifetime value because of the combination of these.

Speaker 3

Some of these customers are using this once just to try it out. As a whole, it ends up being the third in third place out of those three. Now, you know, we actually even internally as a company, we really, we're already starting the process of getting these On-Demand customers in, having them, you know, start to market to them to get into subscription products. Because we, you know, it was the whole idea, get the customers in, let them kind of try us a little bit more, a little bit more trial before we basically recommend to them that, you know, a subscription product might be a better choice for you over time. Once you get the customer into subscription, then they're kind of all in, you know, where before they might have been, you know, dabbling into Sezzle, maybe dabbling into a competitor product.

Speaker 3

Once they've made that, you know, jump in, now they're in. That's the breakdown. It's actually pretty much as we expected when we launched. We'd have that kind of rank order.

Speaker 3

Did Premium or Anywhere grow year over year, or would you say most of that year-over-year growth was On-Demand?

Speaker 3

Most of it was On-Demand, but Anywhere grew as well.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 3

Premium's probably taken the biggest hit of the three products with On-Demand coming into the mix.

Speaker 3

Okay, thank you.

Speaker 4

Next, we have Raina Kumar of Oppenheimer.

Speaker 4

Hello. This is Abigail Armstrong-Raina. Just a quick question. Given the volatile macro environment and a scenario where consumer credit quality starts to erode, can you just give us a little more color on how your underwriting and expense management may evolve?

Speaker 3

Yeah. If we ever see anything, you know, we monitor default rates daily through our systems. One of the nice things about the product, you know, we talked about comparisons to credit cards, you know, compare and contrast the credit cards on the call here. Credit cards, from my understanding, if you want to lower someone's credit limit, you got to give a 45-day advance warning. After that notification, you have to wait that time period, and then you can make adjustments. I'd say from our standpoint with buy now, pay later, we don't have that sort of restriction. We can actually move limits today. If we saw something today that we didn't like and we thought it was maybe economically related, we could reduce limits across the board, which is basically something we do in the holiday period, honestly.

Speaker 3

When we look at the holiday period, we don't want people overspending. That's why we just feel so good about this product. As you know, I'm an investor in the company. A lot of the people on the call here, we're all investors in the company as well. That's what I think helps us sleep well at night is we know that if something comes up, we can always adjust things down. Of course, that'll affect your payment volumes and maybe some of the top line, but then you can control loss rates much better than a lot of other financial services products. In a shaky economy, I think that we're probably one of the best credit products you could ever be a part of on an investor side because of the flexibility and how fast we can move.

Speaker 3

Gotcha. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. What are you guys seeing out there in terms of the competitive landscape? Any changes specifically in pricing from your competitors?

Speaker 3

No, not really. You know, people always ask us about the competitive landscape, and the two most heads up to us, I'd say, are Klarna and Zip. Maybe, you know, Afterpay next rung for us, and then Affirm, PayPal next rung. I'm not talking about quality of company when I'm saying this list. It's more about who has the products and services that are most similar to ours from the customer standpoint. When we look at that landscape of competitors, first of all, they're all really good. We haven't really seen much changing in terms of pricing or offerings.

Speaker 3

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Just one last quick one. Can you update us on your lawsuit with Shopify and what are any potential implications in the timing of that?

Speaker 3

Yeah, there's no update at this point. I think if there's any major updates, we'll let our investors know. We're not expecting this to be super speedy in terms of the process. Lawsuits in general are just not the fastest-moving entities out there. It could be something that could take maybe upwards of three to five years in time frame. That's probably the max. At this point, no real update.

Speaker 3

Okay. Perfect. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 3

No problem.

Speaker 4

Next, we have Hal Goetsch of B. Riley.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. My question is, you know, all your metrics are really up and to the right, you know, active consumers, active unique merchants. I mean, just it's all terrific. What was volatile, I think maybe sequentially, was maybe your effective overall take rate. That's that had been pretty steady and had a, you know, maybe Q1 was just a really outsized good number. I wanted to get your perspective on that and how we should think about it, like seasonally or over time or quarter to quarter. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yeah, great question, Hal. Q1 was probably just a massive anomaly out there, you know, because I think we were north of 13% on take rate on volume. A lot of that was due to, and we've explained this, it's a lot of seasonality. What happens in the fourth quarter, we have generally larger GMVs coming through the company. Because of the way revenue is recognized on fee revenue, when the payments are actually made from customers, if there's a late fee attached, that actually is recognized as incurred. A lot of the payments from the fourth quarter go into the first quarter, which has a lower GMV because of seasonality, but the revenue is coming in the first quarter. It's not like, you know, I know GAAP is always trying to go for matching to help investors.

Speaker 3

I think in this case, it doesn't really help investors the way that GAAP is forcing revenue recognition because we provision for losses in the fourth quarter, but we're not provisioning for the revenue in the fourth quarter as well. We actually take that as incurred into the first quarter. If you look back at like fourth quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter might be the best one to look at. We're actually pretty comparable in terms of the top lines. If one thing I say to call out, though, is we actually have done a lot of efforts to move customers to pay us back with ACH as well, which also lowers the top line, but also lowers cost of processing too. That's why our gross margin, the non-GAAP gross margin, is over 60%.

Speaker 3

When I think you look back at the third quarter, fourth quarter last year, we're lower than that. Even though the top line might be much lower than the first quarter, our cost of transaction processing went way down relative. The gross margin is actually north of our 60%.

Speaker 3

Okay. Basically, you know, GMV from Q4, most of the, especially if it's December weighted, you're going to have all those payments in January.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Q1 is always the hardest.

Speaker 3

On-Demand fees, late fees, yeah. You have revenues. Okay, you have, yeah, you have revenues from, like I got it. It makes, that's really helpful in understanding.

Speaker 3

Q1's the hardest quarter to, like, basically, you can't, it's not an annualized, you don't annualize that quarter because of the, you know, the revenue recognition.

Speaker 3

Yeah. With a lot of subscribers, it could very well be a 13 number next quarter, Q1 as well. You know, you need to be ready for a step down when that back half weighted December shopping doesn't happen in the second quarter, third quarter, the next quarter.

Speaker 3

If we get lots of utilization on subscribers, then the top line comes down a bit. When you have lower utilization, like the lower GMVs per user, but the fees come in, then the top line comes up because the revenue recognition is on the lower volumes in the first quarter.

Speaker 3

Okay. Very good. That's all I've got. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thanks, Al.

Speaker 4

Again, as a final reminder, if you'd like to participate in today's Q&A, please press star, then one. At this time, there appears to be no further questions. We will go ahead and conclude today's question and answer session. I would now like to hand the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Once again, a big thank you to our team. We continue to scale the business wonderfully. Part of the reason for that is our business does just scale well. The other reason we're scaling so well is because the Sezzle team is loaded with talent and stars, which means we don't need to keep on adding people as our people do more than most. I always say this one, you know, they call it a company for a reason, and our company just happens to be damn good. Finally, a fun story from Warren Buffett to close the call. Warren Buffett once gave a talk to a group of MBA students and said something surprising. He held up an imaginary punch card and told them, "I could improve your ultimate financial welfare and your emotional well-being by giving you a punch card with only 20 punches in it.

Speaker 3

That's all the investments you get to make in your entire life. Once you use up those 20, you're done." The room got quiet and Buffett continued. Under those rules, you'd really think carefully about what you did. You'd do your research, you'd wait patiently, and you'd bet big when you had real conviction. Because of that, you'd end up doing far better than the average investor. Here, Buffett wasn't only talking about stocks. He was talking about life decisions, what jobs you take, who you work with, who you marry, which partnerships you form, which businesses you start. You only get so many shots at things that truly matter. Buffett continued, "Most people go through life making decisions with no real cost. They over-diversify. They chase every opportunity. They constantly shift focus.

Speaker 3

If you had a punch card every time, you'd concentrate your time and energy on what really matters." Personally, I strongly agree with Buffett on this one, and I hope that we can continue to attract high-conviction investors that agree with this mindset. Thank you all for listening in today, and we hope you have a great rest of your week.

Speaker 4

Thank you, sir, and to the rest of the management team for your time also. The conference call is now concluded. At this time, you may disconnect your line. Thank you again, everyone. Take care and have a great day.

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