Jeff Lick
Managing Director at Stephens Inc.
And then, as a follow-up on, Europe for, you, Rick, you know, you guys have talked about the, you know, the 200 basis point opportunity, you know, and, and that was kind of predicated on, you know, call it flattish organic revenue. We're not needing organic revenue growth. I'm just wondering, you know, obviously, at some point, there's a fine line as, you know, as, as revenue leaks a little, but, you know, and then I also know you, you know, the new team in place in Europe has found, you know, maybe some chunky stuff on efficiencies and costs. Just could you talk a little bit about, you know, the, the relationship of, you know, what's the art of the possible in terms of getting EBITDA margin expansion on a, you know, slightly negative, revenue environment?