Eagle Point Income Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 26, 2026

Key Takeaways

  • Negative Sentiment: The company reported weak full-year results with a GAAP net loss of $0.60 per share in Q4, a FY2025 GAAP return on equity of -0.7% and a total return on the common stock of -15.2%, while NAV fell to $13.31 per share from $14.21.
  • Positive Sentiment: Recurring cash flows remain robust—Q4 recurring cash flows were $0.79 per share, exceeding regular distributions and expenses by roughly $0.15 per share—and the board declared monthly distributions of $0.11 per share for Q2 2026.
  • Positive Sentiment: Management is diversifying beyond CLOs, deploying ~$45 million in Q4 (including $26 million into other credit asset classes) with a reported weighted average effective yield of 21.6%, seeking higher relative value opportunities.
  • Positive Sentiment: Capital structure actions aim to lower funding costs and boost NAV: the company repurchased $19 million of common stock at an 18.2% discount (≈$0.14 NAV accretion), fully redeemed Series B preferred, entered a new low-cost revolver, and plans to redeem the 8% Series C preferred.
  • Negative Sentiment: Ongoing market headwinds—spread compression and lower SOFR—reduced CLO Debt and CLO Equity earnings, and elevated CLO refinancings/resets led to $147 million of paydowns and realized losses tied to portfolio repositioning.
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Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Eagle Point Income Company fourth quarter 2025 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the conference over to Mr. Darren Daugherty from Prosek Partners. You may begin.

Darren Daugherty
Investor Relations Representative at Prosek Partners

Thank you, operator, and good morning. Welcome to Eagle Point Income Company's earnings conference call for the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025. Speaking on the call today are Thomas Majewski, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the company, Daniel Ko, Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager for the company's advisor, and Lena Umnova, Chief Accounting Officer for the advisor. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that the matters discussed on this call include forward-looking statements or projected financial information that involve risks and uncertainties that may cause the company's actual results to differ materially from such projections. For furtheri information on factors that could impact the company and the statements and projections contained herein, please refer to the company's filings with the SEC.

Darren Daugherty
Investor Relations Representative at Prosek Partners

Each forward-looking statement or projection of financial information made during this call is based on the information available to us as of the date of this call. We disclaim any obligation to update our forward-looking statements unless required by law. Earlier today, we filed our full year 2025 audited financial statements and fourth quarter investor presentation with the SEC. These are also available in the Investor Relations section of the company's website, eaglepointincome.com. A replay of this call will also be made available later today. I will now turn the call over to Thomas Majewski, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Eagle Point Income Company. Tom?

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

Thank you, Darren. Good morning, everyone. During 2025, the CLO market experienced challenging conditions. The company was not immune to these broad market dynamics. While default rates in the loan market remained below long-term historic averages, the company's financial performance and total return for shareholders last year were adversely impacted by a number of key factors. These factors included the effect of reduced SOFR levels on CLO Debt Investment Income, ongoing loan spread compression impacting our CLO Equity portfolio, and a broader negative general sentiment in the market towards credit. Throughout the year, we actively managed our portfolio within our investment mandate as the market evolved, seeking opportunities across both CLO Debt and equity, as well as certain other asset classes beyond CLOs. We believe our long-term distribution track record reflects the durability of our strategy across different interest rate cycles and credit environments.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

As we move into 2026, we believe healthy underlying borrower fundamentals and our disciplined approach will position us well. Looking at the company's results for the year, EIC generated a GAAP return on equity of -0.7% and a total return on our common stock of -15.2%, assuming reinvestment of distributions. We paid $1.98 per share in cash distributions to our common shareholders, or 15% of our average stock price during the year. During 2025, the elevated level of CLO Refinancings, Resets, and Calls contributed to early repayments across our CLO Debt portfolio. Paydowns within our CLO Debt portfolio totaled $147 million during the year.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

Many of these investments were purchased at discounts and were then repaid at par, the repayments did generate $0.12 a share of realized capital gains during the year. During the course of 2025, we participated in 10 Resets and six Refinancings across our CLO Equity portfolio. Each reset extended the reinvestment period to five years, and together with the Refinancings, resulted in average CLO Debt cost savings of 46 basis points for those CLOs. Looking at the 4th quarter results from last year, the company generated net-investment income, less realized losses of $0.03 per share, which was comprised of $0.35 of net investment income and offset by $0.32 of realized losses. The realized losses were primarily attributable to portfolio repositioning, including rotating out of certain positions from underperforming CLO collateral managers.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

The fourth quarter net investment income of $0.35 per share compares to $0.39 of net investment income per share recognized in the prior quarter. The decline in net investment income was driven primarily by two factors. First, SOFR declined during the quarter, reflecting the continuation of Fed Rate cuts in the second half of 2025. This directly impacted our CLO Debt portfolio, as the coupons on our CLO Debt positions generally have a floating rate based on SOFR. Second, continued tightening in broadly syndicated loan spreads, which has outpaced the decline in CLO liability costs, also reduced earnings from our CLO Equity portfolio. We refer to this market dynamic as spread compression. Despite the decrease in net investment income, portfolio cash flows remain robust.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

Recurring cash flows for the fourth quarter totaled $19 million, or $0.79 per share, that compares to the prior quarter's $17 million or $0.67 per share, representing an approximate 18% increase quarter-over-quarter. The increase reflects the quality and diversification of the company's investment portfolio. Notably, fourth quarter recurring cash flows exceeded our regular common distributions and total expenses by about $0.15 per share. NAV decreased to $13.31 per share as of December 31st, which is down from $14.21 per share at the end of September. This was largely driven by continued loan spread compression, which has caused CLO Equity valuations to decline. Our GAAP return on equity for the fourth quarter was -4.2%.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

Our investment strategy allows us to deploy capital across CLO Debt, CLO Equity, and other credit asset classes in both the Primary and Secondary markets. This flexibility enhances our ability to allocate capital where we find the most compelling relative value. During the fourth quarter, we deployed about $45 million into new investments. Of that amount, $26 million was invested in other credit asset classes, such as infrastructure credit, asset-backed securities, Portfolio Debt Securities, and regulatory capital relief transactions, with a weighted average effective yield of 21.6%. Importantly, our advisor has expertise in these other credit strategies and has been invested in them for some time for other funds and accounts that our advisor manages. We've also continued to actively optimize our capital structure, seeking to reduce financing costs.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

During the fourth quarter, we completed the full redemption of our 7.75% Series B Term Preferred Stock. We also entered into a new revolving credit facility with an attractive cost of capital and a three-year maturity. Earlier today, we announced our intention to fully redeem the company's 8% Series C Term Preferred Stock, which at present represents our highest cost of capital. During the quarter, we also repurchased $19 million of common stock at an average discount to NAV of 18.2%, resulting in a NAV accretion of approximately $0.14 per share. In November 2025, we announced that our board of directors had increased our common share repurchase authorization to $60 million.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

These actions reflect our ongoing commitment to enhancing shareholder value, and we expect to opportunistically continue buying back shares when they are trading at material discounts to NAV. We believe our shares remain undervalued, and repurchasing them represents a very attractive use of the company's capital. Last week, we declared three monthly distributions of $0.11 per share for the second quarter of 2026, which is in line with the distributions we declared for the first quarter. We believe the current monthly distribution level of $0.11 per share aligns with the company's near-term earning potential in today's lower interest rate environment. As a reminder, when setting the monthly distribution level, the company's Board of Directors considers numerous factors, including the cash flow generated from the company's investment portfolio, our GAAP earnings, and the company's requirement to distribute substantially all of its taxable income.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

CLO Debt is a floating rate asset, so it is expected that our earnings power will generally move in line with benchmark rates. That said, we continue to believe CLO Junior Debt offers compelling risk-adjusted returns compared to many other broader credit market opportunities. We believe the company's portfolio is well-positioned to drive returns in any economic environment and rate cycle. The scale and experience of our advisor at Eagle Point remain key advantages as we seek to capitalize on opportunities in a dynamic market environment. I'll now turn the call over to Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager Daniel Ko, for an update on the market.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Thanks, Tom. I'll provide a quick update on both the loan and CLO markets during the fourth quarter. Loan market fundamentals remained largely stable through the year, despite occasional bouts of volatility due to headlines concerning tariffs, interest rates, and global geopolitical factors. Loan issuers continued to have positive growth in their revenues and EBITDA throughout the year, contributing to a relatively healthy credit market. The S&P UBS Leveraged Loan Index posted a 1.2% return for the fourth quarter and a 5.9% return for the entirety of 2025. The trailing 12-month default rate decreased from 1.5% at the end of September to 1.2% as of December 31st, still considerably below the long-term average of 2.6%. As of December 31st, our portfolio's default exposure was 32 basis points.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Continued rate declines should support a lower default rate environment as issuers save on interest costs. CLO new issuance rose slightly to $55 billion in the fourth quarter, totaling $209 billion for 2025, surpassing the 2024 record of $202 billion. Fourth quarter resets and refinancings were $54 billion and $20 billion, respectively. Combined full year CLO Issuance, including resets and refinancings, hit $546 billion for 2025, exceeding last year's total volume of $511 billion. Tight loan spreads and increased supply of new issue CLOs were headwinds to CLO Equity returns, causing some pressure on our results. At the same time, new issue loan activity is picking up, with several large loan deals recently announced.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

This increase in supply could cause loan spreads to widen as the market absorbs higher loan volumes, leading to potentially higher equity cash flows in the future and creating a potential tailwind for CLO Equity. CLO Debt spreads have remained resilient despite the modest volatility that we observed in the fourth quarter.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Our CLO double B positions, which are focused on the higher quality portion of the market, benefit from attractive yields and our subordination. As of December thirty-first, we had $52 million of cash and undrawn revolver capacity available, providing ample liquidity to deploy into attractive investment opportunities or opportunistically repurchase our stock and deliver long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll hand the call over to our advisor's Chief Accounting Officer, Lena Umnova, to walk through our financial results.

Lena Umnova
Chief Accounting Officer at Eagle Point Credit Management

Thank you, Dan. During the fourth quarter, the company recorded net investment income, or NII, less realized losses from investments of $0.7 million or $0.03 per share. This compares to NII less realized losses of $0.26 per share in the prior quarter, and NII and realized gains of $0.54 per share in the fourth quarter of the last year. Including unrealized investment portfolio losses, GAAP net loss was $15 million or $0.60 per share for the fourth quarter. This compares to GAAP net income of $0.43 per share for the third quarter. The company's fourth quarter net loss was comprised of investment income of $15 million, offset by net unrealized losses of investments of $16 million, net realized losses of $8 million, and financing and operating expenses of $6 million.

Lena Umnova
Chief Accounting Officer at Eagle Point Credit Management

In addition, the company recorded an other comprehensive loss attributable to changes in the mark-to-market of the company's liabilities, recorded at fair value of $1 million for the fourth quarter. We paid three monthly distributions of $0.13 per share during the fourth quarter of 2025. Last week we declared monthly distributions of $0.11 per share for the second quarter of 2026, in line with the distributions for the first quarter of 2026. As of December month-end, the company had outstanding preferred securities, which totaled 31% of total assets, less current liabilities. This is within our long-term target leverage ratio range of 25%-35%, where we expect to operate the company under normal market conditions.

Lena Umnova
Chief Accounting Officer at Eagle Point Credit Management

As of December 31st, the company's NAV was $312 million, or $13.31 per share, versus $14.21 per share as of September month-end. During the fourth quarter, we repurchased over 1.6 million shares of our common stock for $19 million at an average discount to NAV of 18.2% per share. That resulted in NAV accretion of $0.14 per share. Looking at our portfolio activity during month-end of January, the company received recurring cash flows from its investment portfolio of $14 million. To note, some of the company's investments are still expected to make payments later in the quarter. As of January month-end, net of pending investment transactions and settlements, the company had $85 million of cash and revolver capacity available for investment and other purposes.

Lena Umnova
Chief Accounting Officer at Eagle Point Credit Management

Management's unaudited estimate of the company's NAV as of January month-end was between $13.23 per share and $13.33 per share. I will now turn the call back to Tom to provide closing remarks before we take your questions.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

Thanks, Lena. The fourth quarter reflected our continued focus on active portfolio management amid dynamic market conditions. Performance faced technical headwinds driven by spread compression in the leveraged loan market and the pace of repricings, rather than deterioration in credit fundamentals. Throughout this environment, we have focused on relative value and disciplined capital allocation across CLO Debt and selectively CLO Equity and other asset classes in the credit market beyond CLOs. We continue to actively execute on our share repurchase program as we view our stock as undervalued and believe repurchasing shares at a discount represents an attractive use of capital. Looking ahead, we remain constructive on the CLO markets fundamentals. We have a robust pipeline of refinancings and resets, which we believe will help lower the liability costs in our CLO Equity portfolio.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

At the same time, increased new issue loan activity may help rebalance supply and demand in the loan market over time, which we also believe could be incrementally supportive for CLO Equity. Overall, we believe the current market environment represents a compelling opportunity for patient, well-capitalized investors. With a strong balance sheet, active portfolio management, and a continued focus on relative value, we believe Eagle Point is well positioned to navigate the evolving market conditions and deliver solid risk-adjusted returns and long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you for your time and interest in Eagle Point Income Company. Lena, Dan, and I will now open the call to your questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for your questions. Our first questions come from the line of Erik Zwick with Lucid Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. I wanted to start with just a follow-up on some of your comments, Tom, about the realized losses in the quarter being driven by rotating out of some underperforming managers. I wonder if you could just add a little more color to that and on what particular measures or metrics were they kind of falling short of expectations? You know, just kind of curious.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets

add something there?

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Erik, this is Dan Ko. I guess in terms of the underperforming collateral managers, these are some of the ones that had, I guess, more credit issues and kind of loan spread compression that we had kind of anticipated on the CLO Equity side. Maybe there were a handful kind of on the CLO BB side as well, that have kind of underperformed our expectations on credit.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

We just thought that it was best to exit and kind of rotate into both other CLOs, but also some of the asset classes away from CLOs that you've seen kind of grow, kind of within your portfolio, whether it's collateralized fund obligations, asset-backed securities, and then some other Portfolio Debt Securities, which are all kind of asset classes that Eagle Point and other funds within Eagle Point are investing in. We just found kind of better relative value there, and so thought we would kind of enhance the yield of the portfolio, as well as kind of add a little bit of diversity within the portfolio through those.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets

Thanks, Dan. That's great color. In terms of the announced redemption of the Series C Term Preferred Stock, curious about your source of funds for redeeming that. Is it kind of a combination of cash on hand and maybe utilization of the new revolver, or how do you plan to fund that?

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Yeah, exactly. It's definitely the revolver, new revolver that's in place. There's kind of cash on hand, but also just continues to be a lot of refis and resets. For our CLO Debt, that means that we're getting paid off kind of at par, stuff that we typically bought at a discount earlier. We're achieving that convexity, and then able to kind of get par back and use those proceeds to ultimately pay back the EICCs.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets

Got it. Last one for me. In the press release, there's an indication that the weighted average expected yield on the CLO portfolio was 12.5% at the end of the quarter, and that was up from 11.6%. Curious that the driver of that increase, was it kind of income related or more in the denominator, just the change in the fair market value of the portfolio?

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Well, I think it's more just so that we, it was a little bit, I guess, of the denominator, but it was also just kind of being able to redeploy into kind of wider yielding assets, versus, you know, CLO BBs and CLO Equity. It's really that kind of non-CLO bucket that was agreed.

Erik Zwick
Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets

Got it. Yeah, no, that's preferred rather than a change in the denominator. Okay, great. Thanks. That's all I had today. Thank you.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Thanks for the question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please proceed with your questions.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
SVP for Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann

Hey, guys. Lena, were there any non-recurring items in the earnings?

Lena Umnova
Chief Accounting Officer at Eagle Point Credit Management

No, there were none this quarter.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
SVP for Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay. Then I guess a follow-up on Erik's question on the refi. Should we expect the balance sheet investment portfolio to shrink in the first quarter and possibly into the second quarter as well, relative to year-end?

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

No. I mean, I guess we're obviously redeeming kind of the EICCs, but we have been kind of opportunistically buying back our stock. You know, that being said, we, you know, typically over the long-term, target at 25%-35% you know, leverage ratio. We're, I guess, with the EICCs being redeemed, we'll be kind of on the lower end of that. You know, I guess we have that target of 25%-35%, and I guess that's really kind of all I can say for now.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
SVP for Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay. I guess for the indication is you're going to be focusing less on CLO, more on alternative credit assets. Are these going to be assets which you have any sort of direct exposure, you're directly underwriting, let's say, a company? Is it you're going to be buying, you know, packaged securities as before?

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Yeah, no. This is, these are investments that are being made kind of across the Eagle Point platform and other funds or accounts that we manage. We have dedicated teams that are focusing on these investments. The EIC, you know, based on kind of the merits of the investment and based on kind of my decision as the portfolio manager, can participate in these investments. Relative to kind of the opportunities that we were seeing in CLOs, we found that these other non-CLO investments, I guess, provided a better relative value opportunity. That could change tomorrow if we find kind of CLOs provide a better kind of relative value, kind of attractive yield.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

During the fourth quarter, we found better relative value within these kind of non-CLO asset classes.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
SVP for Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. Thank you.

Daniel Ko
Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We have reached the end of our question and answer session. I would now like to hand the call back over to Tom Majewski for any closing comments.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

Great. Thank you very much, everyone. We appreciate your time and interest in Eagle Point Income Company. Hopefully, we're giving some good color on the strategy for the portfolio as we move forward. Certainly, we'll remain in the foreseeable future, you know, to the focused on the core of a CLO BB portfolio, but with the goal of enhancing the return where we can, just as we've added CLO Equity from time to time. Similarly, introducing some other asset classes that we're investing in across Eagle Point's broader platform, where we see opportunities on a relative basis to add incremental value. We're excited about the company. Our number one job is to be delivering strong returns to shareholders through credit products.

Tom Majewski
Tom Majewski
Chairman and CEO at Eagle Point Income Company

We believe as we continue to evolve the strategy of the portfolio, consistent with broader developments here at our firm, we're excited for the future prospects for EIC. We appreciate your time and attention. Lena, Dan, and I are around today if anyone has any follow-up questions. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does now conclude today's teleconference. We appreciate your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Executives
    • Tom Majewski
      Tom Majewski
      Chairman and CEO
Analysts
    • Christopher Nolan
      SVP for Equity Research at Ladenburg Thalmann
    • Daniel Ko
      Senior Principal and Portfolio Manager at Eagle Point Credit Management
    • Darren Daugherty
      Investor Relations Representative at Prosek Partners
    • Erik Zwick
      Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets
    • Lena Umnova
      Chief Accounting Officer at Eagle Point Credit Management
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