NYSE:TWO Two Harbors Investments Q1 2026 Earnings Report $12.61 +0.01 (+0.06%) Closing price 05/15/2026 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$12.52 -0.09 (-0.74%) As of 05/15/2026 07:50 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Two Harbors Investments EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.34Consensus EPS $0.21Beat/MissBeat by +$0.13One Year Ago EPSN/ATwo Harbors Investments Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$225.08 millionExpected Revenue$2.33 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$222.75 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATwo Harbors Investments Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2026Date4/28/2026TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, April 29, 2026Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsTwo Harbors Investments' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Monday, July 27, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Two Harbors Investments Q1 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 29, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Two executed an amended merger agreement with CrossCountry Mortgage increasing the cash consideration to $11.30 per share; the board unanimously recommends the deal, which is expected to close in the second half of 2026 and is not subject to a financing condition. Negative Sentiment: First-quarter results showed a -2.0% total economic return, book value declined to $10.57 from $11.13, and the company recorded a comprehensive loss of $24.7 million ($0.24 per share). Positive Sentiment: Servicing-related businesses strengthened: the DTC platform funded $92 million in first/second liens with a $57 million pipeline, the company added $152 million UPB of MSR, and management projects attractive static returns (servicing 11–14% and overall portfolio 8–11.4% before leverage). Negative Sentiment: Geopolitical shocks (Middle East conflict) and rising rate/volatility expectations widened RMBS spreads and increased hedging costs, leaving material uncertainty in near-term mortgage and RMBS performance. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTwo Harbors Investments Q1 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Jennifer, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to Two's first quarter 2026 earnings call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. I would now like to turn the call over to Ms. Maggie Karr. Maggie KarrHead of Investor Relations at Two Harbors Investment00:00:24Good morning, everyone, welcome to our call to discuss Two's first quarter 2026 financial results. With me on the call this morning are Bill Greenberg, our President and Chief Executive Officer, Nick Letica, our Chief Investment Officer, and William Dellal, our Chief Financial Officer. The earnings press release and presentation associated with today's call have been filed with the SEC and are available on the SEC's website as well as the investor relations page of our website at twoinv.com. In our earnings release and presentation, we have provided reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures. We urge you to review this information in conjunction with today's call. As a reminder, our comments today will include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause our results to differ materially from expectations. Maggie KarrHead of Investor Relations at Two Harbors Investment00:01:18These are described on page two of the presentation and in our Form 10-K and subsequent reports filed with the SEC. Except as may be required by law, Two does not update forward-looking statements and disclaims any obligation to do so. I will now turn the call over to Bill. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:01:37Thank you, Maggie. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter earnings call. I'd like to begin by addressing the recent developments regarding the merger plans that we initially disclosed last December. As we describe in detail in our proxy statement, in March, we received an unsolicited all-cash proposal from CrossCountry Mortgage. After careful consideration and in coordination with our financial and legal advisors, our board unanimously determined that the CrossCountry proposal was superior and in the best interest of shareholders. On March 27th, 2026, we executed a new merger agreement with CrossCountry, pursuant to which CrossCountry agreed to acquire Two Harbors for $10.80 per share in cash. In connection with entering into this agreement, we terminated the prior merger agreement with UWM. Yesterday, we announced that we signed an amendment to the new merger agreement with CCM. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:02:34Under the terms of the amended agreement, CCM will increase the per share cash consideration payable to Two Harbors stockholders to $11.30 per share, an increase from $10.80 per share under the original merger agreement. The amended agreement follows our board's thorough evaluation of an unsolicited competing proposal received on April 20th, 2026 from UWMC. After consulting with our financial and legal advisors, including assessment of the competing proposal's terms, proposed financing, regulatory path, deal certainty and other factors, the Two Harbors board determined that the CCM transaction, as amended, continues to be in the best interests of Two Harbors and its stockholders. The business combination with CCM pairs the country's leading retail originator with RoundPoint's best-in-class servicing platform, creating a fully integrated mortgage company. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:03:29We are confident that this merger is in the best interest of shareholders, allowing them to receive the certainty of cash and reinvest the proceeds in a manner that best suits them. The transaction is expected to close in the second half of 2026 and is not subject to any financing condition. Prior to closing, we intend to continue paying regular quarterly dividends, but not stub dividends, consistent with past practice. We will hold a special meeting to approve the CrossCountry merger on May 19th at 10:00 A.M. Eastern Time. If you have already submitted your vote in favor of the CCM merger, your vote remains valid. If you have not yet voted or if you previously voted only on the terminated UWM transaction, please submit your vote as soon as possible. Your vote is very important. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:04:17Our board unanimously recommends that all shareholders vote in favor of the transaction with CrossCountry. Let's turn to our quarterly results as summarized on slide three. At the start of the quarter, RMBS performance was buoyed by the continued decline of implied volatility and the announcement on January 8th by the FHFA director instructing the GSEs to purchase $200 billion of agency MBS in an effort to explicitly tighten mortgage spreads as part of a larger effort to lower mortgage rates. Mostly as a result of the outbreak of the Middle East conflict, the performance of risk assets, including RMBS, deteriorated over the balance of the quarter. Amid this backdrop, for the first quarter, we had a total economic return of negative 2.0%. Please turn to slide four. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:05:09Forecasts for inflation and economic growth became more uncertain as the quarter unfolded, and as a result, the Federal Reserve left rates unchanged at their February and March meetings. As you can see in Figure 1, market expectations for the Fed's effective rate at 2026 year-end rose from 3.06% on December 31st to 3.57% at quarter end, essentially wiping away any prospects of Fed cuts in 2026. Economic statistics over the quarter were mixed, punctuated by a weaker than anticipated employment report on March 6th, with the unemployment rate unexpectedly rising to 4.4%. Normally, such an outcome would likely result in a bull steepener, with short rates falling more than long rates. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:05:55In this instance, rekindled concerns over inflation, both from continued elevation of core PCE inflation and from the oil price shock, were strong enough that rates did the opposite, rising into the end of the quarter. You can see in Figure 2, the U.S. Treasury yield curve bear flattens with two-year yields rising 32 basis points to 3.79%, while 10-year yields increase 15 basis points to 4.32%. The Fed's median forecast, released in March, continued to price in 125 basis point cut in 2026. Though forecasts for core PCE inflation increased from 2.5% to 2.7%, which Chairman Powell said partly reflected incoming inflation news since the last report. Please turn to slide five. Our DTC platform has made excellent progress since we began making our first loan in June of 2024. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:06:51In the first quarter, we funded $92 million in first and second liens, about the same as in the fourth quarter, despite rising interest rates. We also brokered $38 million in second liens. At quarter end, we had an additional $57 million in our pipeline. These are still small numbers, which to some extent are expected given the low note rate nature of our servicing portfolio. We believe the upcoming combination with CrossCountry should bring the origination efforts to a new level, and we expect that our recapture efforts should improve substantially, benefiting our servicing customers. I'd like to hand the call over to William to discuss our financial results. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:07:34Thank you, Bill. Please turn to slide six. Our book value decreased to $10.57 per share at March 31st, compared to $11.13 per share at December 31st. Including the $0.34 common stock dividend, this resulted in a negative 2% quarterly economic return. Please turn to slide seven. The company incurred a comprehensive loss of $24.7 million or $0.24 per share. Net interest and servicing income, which is a sum of GAAP net interest expense and net servicing income before operating costs, decreased as a result of lower float earnings rates and lower balances due to MSR sales and seasonals, as well as lower servicing fee collections on lower UPB, partially offset by lower financing rates. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:08:30Mark-to-market losses on Agency RMBS and TBAs were due to higher interest rates and wider spreads in the first quarter versus gains in the fourth quarter, driven by both steepening and rates. The decrease in mark-to-market losses on MSR was driven by a slight favorable change in valuation inputs and assumptions used in the fair valuation of MSR versus an unfavorable change in Q4, as well as lower portfolio runoff on lower MSR balances as a result of sales and lower experienced prepayment speeds. Other derivative instruments utilized for purposes of hedging or interest rate exposure, including swaps, futures, and Inverse Interest-Only Securities, experienced net mark-to-market gains in Q1 versus net losses in Q4. You can see the individual components of net interest and servicing income and mark-to-market gains and losses on appendix slide 20. Please turn to slide eight. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:09:36On the left-hand side of the slide, you can see a breakdown of our balance sheet at quarter end. We ended the quarter with over $500 million of cash on the balance sheet. As we said on our last earnings call, we repaid our Convertible Senior Notes of $261.9 million in full on their January 15, 2026 maturity date. RMBS funding markets remained stable and available throughout the quarter, with repurchase spreads at around SOFR plus 15 basis points to 18 basis points. At quarter end, our weighted average days to maturity for our Agency RMBS repo was 71 days. We finance our MSR, including the MSR asset and related servicing advance obligations across five lenders, with $1.5 billion of outstanding borrowings under bilateral facilities. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:10:34We ended the quarter with a total of $977 million in unused MSR asset financing capacity. We have $69 million drawn on our servicing advances facility with an additional $81 million of available capacity. I'll now turn the call over to Nick. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:10:55Thank you, William. Please turn to slide nine. In his opening comments, Bill discussed the up-down nature of mortgage performance over the quarter. Ultimately, risk sentiment took an abrupt negative shift in late February with the onset of hostilities in the Middle East, leading to wider spreads for RMBS. Though mortgage spreads widened, they outperformed the increase in volatility due to favorable supply-demand technicals aided by the administration's explicit support of the mortgage basis. At quarter end, and even today, the situation in the Middle East is highly fluid with a broad range of outcomes. For the near term, geopolitical tensions will remain the primary driver of market sentiment and economic outlook. That said, the widening of spreads by quarter end made performance outcomes more balanced and improved the return potential of our portfolio. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:11:46At March 31st, the portfolio was $11.9 billion, including $8.9 billion in settled positions and $3 billion in TBAs. Our primary risk metrics quarter-over-quarter were not much different. Our economic debt to equity was lower at 6.4x, while our portfolio sensitivity to a 25 basis point spread tightening decreased slightly from 3.7% to 3.2%. Throughout the quarter, given the elevated level of macro volatility, we kept interest rate risks low in aggregate and across the curve. You can see more details on our risk exposures on appendix slide 17. Please turn to slide 10. As previously discussed, January was an excellent month for mortgage performance, with the Bloomberg US MBS Index delivering 52 basis points of excess return, its best month in over a year. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:12:35Implied volatility, as measured by two-year options on 10-year swap rates, fell to 73 basis points on January 27th, its lowest level since October 2021. Spreads ratcheted tighter after the January 8th announcement directing the GSEs to buy MBS, adding to what was already a constructive supply-demand picture, with money managers enjoying consistent inflows of capital, banks driving CMO demand through floater purchases, and REITs raising capital in the equity markets. Current coupon spreads reached quarterly tights on January 12th, with nominal and option-adjusted spreads tightening by 10 basis points to 15 basis points from the beginning of the quarter. In response, we lowered our mortgage exposure given historically tight Treasury spreads, mostly by selling 4.5% specified pools and 5% TBAs. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:13:23However, over the course of February and March, driven predominantly by the start of the conflict and the attendant increase in realized and implied volatility and the flattening of the yield curve, performance deteriorated. As you can see in Figure 1, implied volatility on two-year, 10-year swap options finished the quarter up 5 basis points nominally to 85 basis points. Current coupon spreads versus swaps on a nominal and option-adjusted basis widened by 26 basis points and 15 basis points, finishing the quarter at 141 basis points and 60 basis points, respectively. With mortgage spreads cheaper, we reversed course and managed our spread exposure higher by quarter end, simultaneously adding some 5.5% specified pools. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:14:06As you can see in Figure 2, the spread curve, both nominally and risk adjusted, steepened over the quarter with lower coupons close to unchanged while 4.5% And higher coupons widened. Peak spreads were in the 5.5% to 6% coupons. Please turn to slide 11 to review our Agency RMBS portfolio. Figure 1 shows the performance of TBAs and specified pools we owned throughout this quarter. Hedge performance versus swaps across the coupon stack was mixed, with some belly coupons and higher coupon specified pools eking out a positive return. While the performance for most of the stack between 4.5% And 6% was negative. Hedge performance versus Treasuries was better as longer-end swap spreads tightened over the quarter. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:14:51Even so, the Bloomberg US MBS Index, in which performance is measured against Treasuries, had an excess cumulative return of -36 basis points over February and March. Thirty-year mortgage rates finished up about 25 basis points quarter-over-quarter to 6.5%, though they touched 6% in both January and February, allowing savvy and fast-acting borrowers to find the best rates in years. Prepayment rates for refinanceable loans jumped higher in March, reacting to the multiyear lows in mortgage rates. Though absolute prepayment rates for refinanceable coupons reached similar levels as observed in October 2025, they were actually more benign after adjusting for rate incentives. The prepayment S-curve was not as reactive as it had been in the fourth quarter when the media effect was more elevated. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:15:37With prepayment rates on higher coupon TBAs remaining fast, the call protection offered by our carefully selected specified pools was evident, as can be seen in Figure 2, which shows TBAs versus the specified pools we own by coupon. For five and a half coupons and higher, our specified pools paid at a fraction of TBA speeds. On aggregate, pool speeds increased to 9.8% from 8.6% CPR quarter-over-quarter, mostly driven by increases in speeds from these higher coupons. Please turn to slide 12. Activity and demand for MSR in the first quarter remained high, with servicing transfers topping 93 billion UPB, outpacing Q1 2025, though below the prior two quarters. We continue to see most of the supply coming from non-bank originators with a broader array of buyer types, which include other non-bank originators, banks, and REITs. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:16:33Figure 2 shows that with mortgage rates at their current level of around 6.5%, the share of our MSR portfolio that is considered in the money drops to 1%. If mortgage rates were to drop to around 5%, the portion of our portfolio in the money would rise to about 9%. The housing market remains slow and persistent inventory shortages in many markets is expected to continue to put upward pressure on prices. That said, there are pockets of weakness in southern markets with builders continuing to offer buydowns to move inventory. Housing affordability, which had been improving since mid-2025, is likely to reverse given the rise in mortgage rates. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:17:13On a broad basis, we anticipate home prices to rise in the single digits annualized, and for housing turnover to continue to trend about 5% higher year-on-year, especially as primary rates today are lower than a year ago at this time. Please turn to slide 13, where we will discuss our MSR portfolio. Figure 1 is an overview of our portfolio at quarter end, further details of which can be found on appendix slide 23. In the first quarter, we added 152 million UPB of MSR through flow sale and recapture channels. Given the increase in mortgage rates and wider RMBS spreads, the price multiple of our MSR increased slightly quarter-over-quarter to 5.9x. 60+ day delinquencies remained low at under 1%. Figure 2 compares CPRs across those implied security coupons in our portfolio of MSR versus TBAs. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:18:08Quarter-over-quarter, our MSR portfolio experienced a decrease in prepayment rates to 5.6% CPR, reflecting lower housing turnover that is typical in the winter months. Importantly, prepays have remained below our projections for the majority of our portfolio, which has been a positive tailwind for returns. Finally, please turn to slide 14, our return potential and outlook slide, which is a forward-looking projection of our expected portfolio returns. We estimate that about 65% of our capital is allocated to servicing with a static return projection of 11%-14%. The remaining capital is allocated to securities with a static return estimate of 11%-15%. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:18:52With our portfolio allocation shown in the top half of the table and after expenses, the static return estimate for our portfolio would be between 8% to 11.4% before applying any capital structural leverage to the portfolio. After giving effect to our unsecured notes and preferred stock, we believe that the potential static return on common equity falls in the range of 7.3%-12.9% or a prospective quarterly static return per share of $0.19-$0.34. Looking ahead, the situation in the Middle East remains highly fluid. The economic disruptions caused by this conflict are inherently hard to gauge. While technical factors in the RMBS market are a positive for the sector, the outlook for interest rate volatility is less certain. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:19:38It's worth noting that while there was a substantial increase in volatility off the quarterly lows in Q1, volatility for much of the term structure only went back to levels last seen in Q4 2025. Relative to that timeframe, current coupon spreads finished the quarter slightly tighter than they were then, which reflects the explicit support the sector has received from the administration. In addition to demand from the GSEs, the latest proposals for the Basel III Endgame could provide a lift as banks should have more capital to use to purchase MBS and hold mortgage loans, which could reduce securitization rates and RMBS supply. In total, RMBS hedged with swaps possesses good nominal yield with a balanced performance profile, albeit with a key dependency on the direction of volatility. The MSR market remains very well supported with a broad range of buyers. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:20:30We favor the portfolio construction of pairing MSR with RMBS, which we expect will deliver attractive returns over a wide range of market outcomes. Thank you very much for joining us today. Now we will be happy to take any questions you might have. Operator00:20:47Thank you. If you are dialed in via the telephone and would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal through to our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We will pause for just a moment. We will go first to Doug Harter with BTIG. Doug HarterAnalyst at BTIG00:21:21Thanks. Just talking about, you know, kind of the book value performance in the quarter. You know, hoping you could help break that down between the two strategies and kind of how MSR performed and how kind of the hedged Agency would have performed, you know, just as we think about those components. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:21:42Hey, Doug, this is Nick. Thank you for that question. It's been a very good one. Over the quarter, we saw our MSR, hedged MSR strategy, perform extremely well over the quarter. That was a positive. The hedged securities part of the portfolio was an offset to that. I think, you know, over the quarter there was a fair amount big pickup in both in realized and implied volatility. You know, convexity hedging costs over the quarter, you know, were definitely a pickup from the prior quarter. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:22:14If you look at the, anecdotally, if you just look at the, you know, basis points traveled or the range that the market traded in in terms of, you know, the 10-year, you definitely would see, you know, a pickup that would make sense in that context. It was a better quarter for hedged MSR versus hedged securities. The one thing I will say is, you know, in terms of like, you know, relative performance among the REITs, and I saw the comment you made in your, in your note about us last night. You know, I would say there are two things. First of all, you know, we have generally a higher expense base. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:22:48When you actually I think if you looked at the portfolio in isolation relative to other REIT portfolios, I think on a comparative basis, it'd probably look pretty favorable. The expense, a higher expense base because of our servicing business, is an offset to that relative to some peers. The other part of it is that, you know, unlike other peers that had raised equity over the quarter and had some accretion, owing to the fact they're trading over book value and some of that adds to their performance. I think with those adjustments, I think that the portfolio performance would actually look relatively favorable, if that makes sense. Doug HarterAnalyst at BTIG00:23:23That does. I appreciate that clarity, Nick. Thank you. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:23:28Of course. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:23:30Thanks, Doug. Congratulations on the new role. Operator00:23:33We'll go next to Bose George with KBW. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:23:37Thank you. Hey, guys. Good morning. Can we get an update on your book value quarter to date? Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:23:43Hey, Bose, this is Nick. We're up about 2%. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:23:47Okay, great. Thanks. You know, not sure if you can answer this, but in terms of the merger, is the situation with UWM over or does that remain kind of live until the shareholder vote? Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:24:00Well, as we disclosed last night, you know, we executed a revised merger agreement with CCM, right? We're working through the process in terms of getting that merger to completion. There is a shareholder vote which is scheduled for May 19th. We're excited about that transaction, and we're focused on doing everything we can in order to bring that to completion. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:24:22Okay, great. Yeah, okay, no, I guess that's good. I was just curious. There's still room for bids until the vote happens. Is that a fair statement? Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:24:32The merger agreement's very, very prescribed and lays out the details and the circumstances for how someone should do that if they were so interested. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:24:41Okay, great. Thanks a lot. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:24:44Thank you. Operator00:24:46We'll take our next question from Jason Weaver with JonesTrading. Val AlvarAnalyst at JonesTrading00:24:52Hey, good morning, guys. This is Val Alvar here filling in for Jason Weaver. Just had a quick one for you. Can you walk us through the financing package supporting the $11.30 cash consideration, whether it's debt sponsored, private equity, internal cash? Also whether the merger agreement contains a financing condition or a market MAC carve-out tied to book value per share, mortgage spreads, or like rate volatility at close? Thanks. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:25:20Yeah. Thanks for the question. I appreciate it. As you might expect, you know, everything that that is disclosable has been disclosed in the merger agreement, which is filed publicly. I would refer you to that document to answer some of your questions. Val AlvarAnalyst at JonesTrading00:25:38Okay, great. That's good. Thank you. Appreciate it. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:25:41Yeah. Thank you. Operator00:25:46At this time, there are no further questions. I'll turn the call back to the speakers for any additional or closing remarks. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:25:53I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today. As always, thank you for your interest in Two Harbors. Operator00:26:01This does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesWilliam DellalCFOAnalystsBill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors InvestmentBose GeorgeAnalyst at KBWDoug HarterAnalyst at BTIGMaggie KarrHead of Investor Relations at Two Harbors InvestmentNick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors InvestmentVal AlvarAnalyst at JonesTradingPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Two Harbors Investments Earnings HeadlinesUWMC Provides Clarity on Latest Disingenuous Announcement by Two HarborsMay 14 at 3:53 PM | businesswire.comTwo Harbors Rejects 'Predatory' UWM Bid, Reaffirms CrossCountry DealMay 13, 2026 | marketwatch.comThe REAL Reason Trump is Invading IranFor a moment… Forget about Trump’s ties to Israel. Forget about reports of Iran’s nuclear program. 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Email Address About Two Harbors InvestmentsTwo Harbors Investments (NYSE:TWO). is a mortgage real estate investment trust (mREIT) that primarily invests in residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS) issued or guaranteed by government-sponsored enterprises, as well as non-agency residential mortgage loans, mortgage servicing rights and credit risk transfer securities. The company seeks to generate attractive risk-adjusted returns for its shareholders by employing leverage to enhance net interest income derived from its portfolio of high-quality fixed-income assets. Headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Two Harbors operates through a self-managed platform that combines portfolio management, risk-management and securitization expertise. Its investment strategy emphasizes the use of interest-rate and prepayment hedges, active sector rotation and credit analysis to exploit relative value opportunities across the U.S. residential mortgage market. In addition to agency mortgage-backed securities, the firm selectively allocates capital to private label RMBS and other structured credit instruments that complement its core holdings. Founded in 2009, Two Harbors has grown its platform through a series of strategic portfolio acquisitions and securitization ventures, including transactions that transfer credit risk from government agencies to private-sector investors. The company is led by President and Chief Executive Officer Michael A. Strauss, whose tenure has overseen the expansion of Two Harbors’ investment capabilities and the refinement of its risk-management framework. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Jennifer, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to Two's first quarter 2026 earnings call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. I would now like to turn the call over to Ms. Maggie Karr. Maggie KarrHead of Investor Relations at Two Harbors Investment00:00:24Good morning, everyone, welcome to our call to discuss Two's first quarter 2026 financial results. With me on the call this morning are Bill Greenberg, our President and Chief Executive Officer, Nick Letica, our Chief Investment Officer, and William Dellal, our Chief Financial Officer. The earnings press release and presentation associated with today's call have been filed with the SEC and are available on the SEC's website as well as the investor relations page of our website at twoinv.com. In our earnings release and presentation, we have provided reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures. We urge you to review this information in conjunction with today's call. As a reminder, our comments today will include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause our results to differ materially from expectations. Maggie KarrHead of Investor Relations at Two Harbors Investment00:01:18These are described on page two of the presentation and in our Form 10-K and subsequent reports filed with the SEC. Except as may be required by law, Two does not update forward-looking statements and disclaims any obligation to do so. I will now turn the call over to Bill. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:01:37Thank you, Maggie. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter earnings call. I'd like to begin by addressing the recent developments regarding the merger plans that we initially disclosed last December. As we describe in detail in our proxy statement, in March, we received an unsolicited all-cash proposal from CrossCountry Mortgage. After careful consideration and in coordination with our financial and legal advisors, our board unanimously determined that the CrossCountry proposal was superior and in the best interest of shareholders. On March 27th, 2026, we executed a new merger agreement with CrossCountry, pursuant to which CrossCountry agreed to acquire Two Harbors for $10.80 per share in cash. In connection with entering into this agreement, we terminated the prior merger agreement with UWM. Yesterday, we announced that we signed an amendment to the new merger agreement with CCM. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:02:34Under the terms of the amended agreement, CCM will increase the per share cash consideration payable to Two Harbors stockholders to $11.30 per share, an increase from $10.80 per share under the original merger agreement. The amended agreement follows our board's thorough evaluation of an unsolicited competing proposal received on April 20th, 2026 from UWMC. After consulting with our financial and legal advisors, including assessment of the competing proposal's terms, proposed financing, regulatory path, deal certainty and other factors, the Two Harbors board determined that the CCM transaction, as amended, continues to be in the best interests of Two Harbors and its stockholders. The business combination with CCM pairs the country's leading retail originator with RoundPoint's best-in-class servicing platform, creating a fully integrated mortgage company. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:03:29We are confident that this merger is in the best interest of shareholders, allowing them to receive the certainty of cash and reinvest the proceeds in a manner that best suits them. The transaction is expected to close in the second half of 2026 and is not subject to any financing condition. Prior to closing, we intend to continue paying regular quarterly dividends, but not stub dividends, consistent with past practice. We will hold a special meeting to approve the CrossCountry merger on May 19th at 10:00 A.M. Eastern Time. If you have already submitted your vote in favor of the CCM merger, your vote remains valid. If you have not yet voted or if you previously voted only on the terminated UWM transaction, please submit your vote as soon as possible. Your vote is very important. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:04:17Our board unanimously recommends that all shareholders vote in favor of the transaction with CrossCountry. Let's turn to our quarterly results as summarized on slide three. At the start of the quarter, RMBS performance was buoyed by the continued decline of implied volatility and the announcement on January 8th by the FHFA director instructing the GSEs to purchase $200 billion of agency MBS in an effort to explicitly tighten mortgage spreads as part of a larger effort to lower mortgage rates. Mostly as a result of the outbreak of the Middle East conflict, the performance of risk assets, including RMBS, deteriorated over the balance of the quarter. Amid this backdrop, for the first quarter, we had a total economic return of negative 2.0%. Please turn to slide four. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:05:09Forecasts for inflation and economic growth became more uncertain as the quarter unfolded, and as a result, the Federal Reserve left rates unchanged at their February and March meetings. As you can see in Figure 1, market expectations for the Fed's effective rate at 2026 year-end rose from 3.06% on December 31st to 3.57% at quarter end, essentially wiping away any prospects of Fed cuts in 2026. Economic statistics over the quarter were mixed, punctuated by a weaker than anticipated employment report on March 6th, with the unemployment rate unexpectedly rising to 4.4%. Normally, such an outcome would likely result in a bull steepener, with short rates falling more than long rates. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:05:55In this instance, rekindled concerns over inflation, both from continued elevation of core PCE inflation and from the oil price shock, were strong enough that rates did the opposite, rising into the end of the quarter. You can see in Figure 2, the U.S. Treasury yield curve bear flattens with two-year yields rising 32 basis points to 3.79%, while 10-year yields increase 15 basis points to 4.32%. The Fed's median forecast, released in March, continued to price in 125 basis point cut in 2026. Though forecasts for core PCE inflation increased from 2.5% to 2.7%, which Chairman Powell said partly reflected incoming inflation news since the last report. Please turn to slide five. Our DTC platform has made excellent progress since we began making our first loan in June of 2024. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:06:51In the first quarter, we funded $92 million in first and second liens, about the same as in the fourth quarter, despite rising interest rates. We also brokered $38 million in second liens. At quarter end, we had an additional $57 million in our pipeline. These are still small numbers, which to some extent are expected given the low note rate nature of our servicing portfolio. We believe the upcoming combination with CrossCountry should bring the origination efforts to a new level, and we expect that our recapture efforts should improve substantially, benefiting our servicing customers. I'd like to hand the call over to William to discuss our financial results. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:07:34Thank you, Bill. Please turn to slide six. Our book value decreased to $10.57 per share at March 31st, compared to $11.13 per share at December 31st. Including the $0.34 common stock dividend, this resulted in a negative 2% quarterly economic return. Please turn to slide seven. The company incurred a comprehensive loss of $24.7 million or $0.24 per share. Net interest and servicing income, which is a sum of GAAP net interest expense and net servicing income before operating costs, decreased as a result of lower float earnings rates and lower balances due to MSR sales and seasonals, as well as lower servicing fee collections on lower UPB, partially offset by lower financing rates. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:08:30Mark-to-market losses on Agency RMBS and TBAs were due to higher interest rates and wider spreads in the first quarter versus gains in the fourth quarter, driven by both steepening and rates. The decrease in mark-to-market losses on MSR was driven by a slight favorable change in valuation inputs and assumptions used in the fair valuation of MSR versus an unfavorable change in Q4, as well as lower portfolio runoff on lower MSR balances as a result of sales and lower experienced prepayment speeds. Other derivative instruments utilized for purposes of hedging or interest rate exposure, including swaps, futures, and Inverse Interest-Only Securities, experienced net mark-to-market gains in Q1 versus net losses in Q4. You can see the individual components of net interest and servicing income and mark-to-market gains and losses on appendix slide 20. Please turn to slide eight. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:09:36On the left-hand side of the slide, you can see a breakdown of our balance sheet at quarter end. We ended the quarter with over $500 million of cash on the balance sheet. As we said on our last earnings call, we repaid our Convertible Senior Notes of $261.9 million in full on their January 15, 2026 maturity date. RMBS funding markets remained stable and available throughout the quarter, with repurchase spreads at around SOFR plus 15 basis points to 18 basis points. At quarter end, our weighted average days to maturity for our Agency RMBS repo was 71 days. We finance our MSR, including the MSR asset and related servicing advance obligations across five lenders, with $1.5 billion of outstanding borrowings under bilateral facilities. William DellalCFO at Two Harbors Investment00:10:34We ended the quarter with a total of $977 million in unused MSR asset financing capacity. We have $69 million drawn on our servicing advances facility with an additional $81 million of available capacity. I'll now turn the call over to Nick. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:10:55Thank you, William. Please turn to slide nine. In his opening comments, Bill discussed the up-down nature of mortgage performance over the quarter. Ultimately, risk sentiment took an abrupt negative shift in late February with the onset of hostilities in the Middle East, leading to wider spreads for RMBS. Though mortgage spreads widened, they outperformed the increase in volatility due to favorable supply-demand technicals aided by the administration's explicit support of the mortgage basis. At quarter end, and even today, the situation in the Middle East is highly fluid with a broad range of outcomes. For the near term, geopolitical tensions will remain the primary driver of market sentiment and economic outlook. That said, the widening of spreads by quarter end made performance outcomes more balanced and improved the return potential of our portfolio. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:11:46At March 31st, the portfolio was $11.9 billion, including $8.9 billion in settled positions and $3 billion in TBAs. Our primary risk metrics quarter-over-quarter were not much different. Our economic debt to equity was lower at 6.4x, while our portfolio sensitivity to a 25 basis point spread tightening decreased slightly from 3.7% to 3.2%. Throughout the quarter, given the elevated level of macro volatility, we kept interest rate risks low in aggregate and across the curve. You can see more details on our risk exposures on appendix slide 17. Please turn to slide 10. As previously discussed, January was an excellent month for mortgage performance, with the Bloomberg US MBS Index delivering 52 basis points of excess return, its best month in over a year. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:12:35Implied volatility, as measured by two-year options on 10-year swap rates, fell to 73 basis points on January 27th, its lowest level since October 2021. Spreads ratcheted tighter after the January 8th announcement directing the GSEs to buy MBS, adding to what was already a constructive supply-demand picture, with money managers enjoying consistent inflows of capital, banks driving CMO demand through floater purchases, and REITs raising capital in the equity markets. Current coupon spreads reached quarterly tights on January 12th, with nominal and option-adjusted spreads tightening by 10 basis points to 15 basis points from the beginning of the quarter. In response, we lowered our mortgage exposure given historically tight Treasury spreads, mostly by selling 4.5% specified pools and 5% TBAs. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:13:23However, over the course of February and March, driven predominantly by the start of the conflict and the attendant increase in realized and implied volatility and the flattening of the yield curve, performance deteriorated. As you can see in Figure 1, implied volatility on two-year, 10-year swap options finished the quarter up 5 basis points nominally to 85 basis points. Current coupon spreads versus swaps on a nominal and option-adjusted basis widened by 26 basis points and 15 basis points, finishing the quarter at 141 basis points and 60 basis points, respectively. With mortgage spreads cheaper, we reversed course and managed our spread exposure higher by quarter end, simultaneously adding some 5.5% specified pools. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:14:06As you can see in Figure 2, the spread curve, both nominally and risk adjusted, steepened over the quarter with lower coupons close to unchanged while 4.5% And higher coupons widened. Peak spreads were in the 5.5% to 6% coupons. Please turn to slide 11 to review our Agency RMBS portfolio. Figure 1 shows the performance of TBAs and specified pools we owned throughout this quarter. Hedge performance versus swaps across the coupon stack was mixed, with some belly coupons and higher coupon specified pools eking out a positive return. While the performance for most of the stack between 4.5% And 6% was negative. Hedge performance versus Treasuries was better as longer-end swap spreads tightened over the quarter. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:14:51Even so, the Bloomberg US MBS Index, in which performance is measured against Treasuries, had an excess cumulative return of -36 basis points over February and March. Thirty-year mortgage rates finished up about 25 basis points quarter-over-quarter to 6.5%, though they touched 6% in both January and February, allowing savvy and fast-acting borrowers to find the best rates in years. Prepayment rates for refinanceable loans jumped higher in March, reacting to the multiyear lows in mortgage rates. Though absolute prepayment rates for refinanceable coupons reached similar levels as observed in October 2025, they were actually more benign after adjusting for rate incentives. The prepayment S-curve was not as reactive as it had been in the fourth quarter when the media effect was more elevated. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:15:37With prepayment rates on higher coupon TBAs remaining fast, the call protection offered by our carefully selected specified pools was evident, as can be seen in Figure 2, which shows TBAs versus the specified pools we own by coupon. For five and a half coupons and higher, our specified pools paid at a fraction of TBA speeds. On aggregate, pool speeds increased to 9.8% from 8.6% CPR quarter-over-quarter, mostly driven by increases in speeds from these higher coupons. Please turn to slide 12. Activity and demand for MSR in the first quarter remained high, with servicing transfers topping 93 billion UPB, outpacing Q1 2025, though below the prior two quarters. We continue to see most of the supply coming from non-bank originators with a broader array of buyer types, which include other non-bank originators, banks, and REITs. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:16:33Figure 2 shows that with mortgage rates at their current level of around 6.5%, the share of our MSR portfolio that is considered in the money drops to 1%. If mortgage rates were to drop to around 5%, the portion of our portfolio in the money would rise to about 9%. The housing market remains slow and persistent inventory shortages in many markets is expected to continue to put upward pressure on prices. That said, there are pockets of weakness in southern markets with builders continuing to offer buydowns to move inventory. Housing affordability, which had been improving since mid-2025, is likely to reverse given the rise in mortgage rates. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:17:13On a broad basis, we anticipate home prices to rise in the single digits annualized, and for housing turnover to continue to trend about 5% higher year-on-year, especially as primary rates today are lower than a year ago at this time. Please turn to slide 13, where we will discuss our MSR portfolio. Figure 1 is an overview of our portfolio at quarter end, further details of which can be found on appendix slide 23. In the first quarter, we added 152 million UPB of MSR through flow sale and recapture channels. Given the increase in mortgage rates and wider RMBS spreads, the price multiple of our MSR increased slightly quarter-over-quarter to 5.9x. 60+ day delinquencies remained low at under 1%. Figure 2 compares CPRs across those implied security coupons in our portfolio of MSR versus TBAs. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:18:08Quarter-over-quarter, our MSR portfolio experienced a decrease in prepayment rates to 5.6% CPR, reflecting lower housing turnover that is typical in the winter months. Importantly, prepays have remained below our projections for the majority of our portfolio, which has been a positive tailwind for returns. Finally, please turn to slide 14, our return potential and outlook slide, which is a forward-looking projection of our expected portfolio returns. We estimate that about 65% of our capital is allocated to servicing with a static return projection of 11%-14%. The remaining capital is allocated to securities with a static return estimate of 11%-15%. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:18:52With our portfolio allocation shown in the top half of the table and after expenses, the static return estimate for our portfolio would be between 8% to 11.4% before applying any capital structural leverage to the portfolio. After giving effect to our unsecured notes and preferred stock, we believe that the potential static return on common equity falls in the range of 7.3%-12.9% or a prospective quarterly static return per share of $0.19-$0.34. Looking ahead, the situation in the Middle East remains highly fluid. The economic disruptions caused by this conflict are inherently hard to gauge. While technical factors in the RMBS market are a positive for the sector, the outlook for interest rate volatility is less certain. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:19:38It's worth noting that while there was a substantial increase in volatility off the quarterly lows in Q1, volatility for much of the term structure only went back to levels last seen in Q4 2025. Relative to that timeframe, current coupon spreads finished the quarter slightly tighter than they were then, which reflects the explicit support the sector has received from the administration. In addition to demand from the GSEs, the latest proposals for the Basel III Endgame could provide a lift as banks should have more capital to use to purchase MBS and hold mortgage loans, which could reduce securitization rates and RMBS supply. In total, RMBS hedged with swaps possesses good nominal yield with a balanced performance profile, albeit with a key dependency on the direction of volatility. The MSR market remains very well supported with a broad range of buyers. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:20:30We favor the portfolio construction of pairing MSR with RMBS, which we expect will deliver attractive returns over a wide range of market outcomes. Thank you very much for joining us today. Now we will be happy to take any questions you might have. Operator00:20:47Thank you. If you are dialed in via the telephone and would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal through to our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We will pause for just a moment. We will go first to Doug Harter with BTIG. Doug HarterAnalyst at BTIG00:21:21Thanks. Just talking about, you know, kind of the book value performance in the quarter. You know, hoping you could help break that down between the two strategies and kind of how MSR performed and how kind of the hedged Agency would have performed, you know, just as we think about those components. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:21:42Hey, Doug, this is Nick. Thank you for that question. It's been a very good one. Over the quarter, we saw our MSR, hedged MSR strategy, perform extremely well over the quarter. That was a positive. The hedged securities part of the portfolio was an offset to that. I think, you know, over the quarter there was a fair amount big pickup in both in realized and implied volatility. You know, convexity hedging costs over the quarter, you know, were definitely a pickup from the prior quarter. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:22:14If you look at the, anecdotally, if you just look at the, you know, basis points traveled or the range that the market traded in in terms of, you know, the 10-year, you definitely would see, you know, a pickup that would make sense in that context. It was a better quarter for hedged MSR versus hedged securities. The one thing I will say is, you know, in terms of like, you know, relative performance among the REITs, and I saw the comment you made in your, in your note about us last night. You know, I would say there are two things. First of all, you know, we have generally a higher expense base. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:22:48When you actually I think if you looked at the portfolio in isolation relative to other REIT portfolios, I think on a comparative basis, it'd probably look pretty favorable. The expense, a higher expense base because of our servicing business, is an offset to that relative to some peers. The other part of it is that, you know, unlike other peers that had raised equity over the quarter and had some accretion, owing to the fact they're trading over book value and some of that adds to their performance. I think with those adjustments, I think that the portfolio performance would actually look relatively favorable, if that makes sense. Doug HarterAnalyst at BTIG00:23:23That does. I appreciate that clarity, Nick. Thank you. Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:23:28Of course. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:23:30Thanks, Doug. Congratulations on the new role. Operator00:23:33We'll go next to Bose George with KBW. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:23:37Thank you. Hey, guys. Good morning. Can we get an update on your book value quarter to date? Nick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors Investment00:23:43Hey, Bose, this is Nick. We're up about 2%. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:23:47Okay, great. Thanks. You know, not sure if you can answer this, but in terms of the merger, is the situation with UWM over or does that remain kind of live until the shareholder vote? Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:24:00Well, as we disclosed last night, you know, we executed a revised merger agreement with CCM, right? We're working through the process in terms of getting that merger to completion. There is a shareholder vote which is scheduled for May 19th. We're excited about that transaction, and we're focused on doing everything we can in order to bring that to completion. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:24:22Okay, great. Yeah, okay, no, I guess that's good. I was just curious. There's still room for bids until the vote happens. Is that a fair statement? Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:24:32The merger agreement's very, very prescribed and lays out the details and the circumstances for how someone should do that if they were so interested. Bose GeorgeAnalyst at KBW00:24:41Okay, great. Thanks a lot. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:24:44Thank you. Operator00:24:46We'll take our next question from Jason Weaver with JonesTrading. Val AlvarAnalyst at JonesTrading00:24:52Hey, good morning, guys. This is Val Alvar here filling in for Jason Weaver. Just had a quick one for you. Can you walk us through the financing package supporting the $11.30 cash consideration, whether it's debt sponsored, private equity, internal cash? Also whether the merger agreement contains a financing condition or a market MAC carve-out tied to book value per share, mortgage spreads, or like rate volatility at close? Thanks. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:25:20Yeah. Thanks for the question. I appreciate it. As you might expect, you know, everything that that is disclosable has been disclosed in the merger agreement, which is filed publicly. I would refer you to that document to answer some of your questions. Val AlvarAnalyst at JonesTrading00:25:38Okay, great. That's good. Thank you. Appreciate it. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:25:41Yeah. Thank you. Operator00:25:46At this time, there are no further questions. I'll turn the call back to the speakers for any additional or closing remarks. Bill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors Investment00:25:53I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today. As always, thank you for your interest in Two Harbors. Operator00:26:01This does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesWilliam DellalCFOAnalystsBill GreenbergPresident and CEO at Two Harbors InvestmentBose GeorgeAnalyst at KBWDoug HarterAnalyst at BTIGMaggie KarrHead of Investor Relations at Two Harbors InvestmentNick LeticaChief Investment Officer at Two Harbors InvestmentVal AlvarAnalyst at JonesTradingPowered by