Imperial Brands H1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: The company said it is on track to meet full-year guidance, including low-single-digit tobacco net revenue growth, double-digit NGP net revenue growth, 3% to 5% adjusted operating profit growth, and at least high-single-digit EPS growth.
  • Positive Sentiment: First-half results showed solid cash generation, with GBP 2.6 billion of free cash flow over the last 12 months and operating cash conversion of 98%, supporting continued capital returns.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Management highlighted that tobacco pricing more than offset volume declines, while NGP growth was temporarily held back by one-off U.S. promotional timing that they expect will not repeat in the second half.
  • Positive Sentiment: The company reiterated its shareholder returns strategy, including a 4% increase in the ordinary dividend and progress on the GBP 1.45 billion buyback, which management called an evergreen program.
  • Neutral Sentiment: Strategic transformation is accelerating, with factory rationalization, the Capgemini partnership, and other efficiency actions expected to deliver about GBP 320 million of annual savings over time, while also building capabilities for longer-term growth.
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Earnings Conference Call
Imperial Brands H1 2026
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John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Hello. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us for our Half Year 2026 Results. Just a few housekeeping items before we kick off. For those of you in the room, there are no planned fire alarm tests today, so if it goes off, it is a real one, and you'll see the fire exit is just behind you there lit up in green. Finally, I just wanted to draw your attention to the usual disclaimer in our RNS this morning, and in the presentation, which we're just about to go through. Without further ado, I'll hand over to Lukas.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you very much, John. Good morning, and a very warm welcome to this results presentation. Thank you very much for joining us here in the room, and a very warm welcome to those who join us online. Today, I'm joined by Murray McGowan, our Chief Financial Officer, and John-Paul Cross, our Director for Investor Relations. Murray and myself really look forward to presenting the first six months of our fiscal year 2026, and also the first six months of our Evolve 2030 strategy. I'll start off with a few highlights. Murray will take the stage and talk us through the financial performance and our expectation for the full year. I will come back on stage and discuss in more details how we are delivering strong operational performance, while at the same time delivering self-help efficiencies and transforming our business to deliver long-term sustainable growth.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

With that, let me start the presentation. There are four things, overarching point, which Murray and I want to make in today's presentation. First, our consistent financial performance continues to deliver growth in net revenue and adjusted operating profit, driving cash generation of GBP 2.6 billion over the past 12 months, and this is underpinning consistent capital returns, which includes our evergreen share buyback. Second, the progress we have made in the first half means we are well-placed to deliver on our expectation for the full year, and we confirm the guidance we've previously given. Third, our strategic progress and operational delivery continues to be underpinned by our distinctive challenger approach, which is a source of sustainable competitive advantage.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

As you've heard us say before, this challenger mindset is about deep insights into our consumers, a laser focus on the key drivers of growth, and investing in agility so we can create more sustainable value in combustibles and build scale in NGP. Over the past six months, we have made significant progress in the strategic transformation of our business. These activities are delivering material efficiencies in the short term and building capabilities that will unlock long-term growth, helping us become an even stronger challenger business. Let's look first at our half-year dashboard. In the center, you can see how operating performance is supporting top-line revenue growth and growth in earnings per share. We are on target to deliver our full-year objective of at least high single-digit growth in EPS. This is enabling sustainable capital returns, shown on the right.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

We have announced a 4% increase in the ordinary dividend. We are on track with our GBP 1.45 billion share buyback. I recognize that at the half-year point, the two numbers on the left will be a focus for some of you. Looking at the market share, the aggregate figure of our five priority market is lower, and this reflects a deliberate choice to prioritize value over low return volume. In NGP, while we have grown share and volumes in all categories, overall revenue growth is below our full-year guidance of double-digit. This is due to one-off factors, particularly the timing of promotions over the year-end in the U.S., which we do not expect to repeat.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

When I come back, we will get into the detail of what sits behind these numbers, we will highlight the underlying strengths of our operations and our positive trajectory for the second half. While staying focused on delivering our fiscal year 2026 commitment, we're also making purposeful progress on our strategic transformation. We are performing, we are transforming, we are delivering our in-year plans. At the same time, we are making progress on self-help efficiencies and developing the capabilities to enable sustainable long-term growth. On this slide, you can see how we are moving forward on our strategic priorities across the top of the wheel. Strengthening our combustible business and NGP business. We have also achieved key milestones in our strategic enablers, which you can see on the bottom half.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

These are activities which either immediately and materially reduce our cost base or underpin long-term growth through improved technology, processes, and consumer capabilities. When I come back, I will get into the detail of the actions we are taking and how they are already supporting delivery against the financial commitments we made last year at our Capital Markets Day. With that, I would like to hand over to Murray for him to take us through the financial performance and our expectation of the full year. Murray, over to you.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. The past six months has been a period of broad-based growth. We delivered growth in our tobacco and NGP net revenue, growth in combustibles through pricing to offset volume declines, and growth in NGP through strong volumes and share gains across all three categories, underpinning improvement in net revenue as we build scale. Our group adjusted operating profit growth of 0.6% reflects this, but also some headwinds at Logista and some one-offs in the U.S. and Australia, which I'll come onto later. We've delivered GBP 2.6 billion of free cash flow on a 12-month basis. Leverage at 2.4x was higher than the full year for the usual seasonal reasons, but it remains within our target range and flat year-over-year.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Overall, we are on track to deliver against our plan for this fiscal year and meet our capital allocation priorities. These results are another good illustration of the tobacco value model in action. Strong pricing across our footprint, shown here in orange, more than offset volume declines, shown in gray, to deliver low single-digit tobacco net revenue growth in line with guidance. In Europe, our largest region, pricing of 6% outpaced volume declines. In the U.S., pricing of 5.7%, driven by pricing both in cigarettes and mass market cigars portfolio. Sorry. In ACE, volume growth reflects entry into new markets. Excluding Australia, ACE delivered 6.1% price mix, similar to Europe and the U.S.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Tobacco operating profit growth was driven by strong performance in Europe, which grew 6.5%, and in ACE, excluding Australia, which grew 10.8%. In the U.S., growth in combustibles was offset by some one-offs, which I'll cover in the next slide. Whilst NGP losses increased slightly, this reflects the impact of its own promotional activity in the U.S. over the prior year end, which was more successful than we anticipated and was recorded in half one. This reduced NGP net revenue and increased NGP losses by around GBP 13 million. Without this, U.S. NGP net revenue growth would have been positive. At a group level, NGP net revenue growth would be double-digit, and total NGP losses would have reduced in half one year-on-year. It was also pleasing to see Europe NGP make a profitable contribution during the first half.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Adjusted operating profit from Logista declined, reflecting a reduced profit from tobacco inventory, which offset underlying growth in the business. As we said back in November, performance will be weighted to the second half, and I'll explain some of those drivers next. This slide shows some of the one-offs impacting half one performance. In combustibles, these were in the U.S. and in Australia. In the U.S., tariffs on our mass market cigars were a drag. Given the changes to tariffs following the Supreme Court decision in February, this impact will reduce in half two. We'll all see the full impact of pricing taken on MMC during the course of H1 support our H2 delivery. In Australia, we have seen accelerated volume declines of around 50%, which have impacted on AOP.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

There'll be less of a drag on year-over-year in H2 as we annualize those volume decreases and expect adjusted operating profit to stabilize. We will all see a benefit from the actions we've taken in H1 to resize and refocus our operations in Australia. We're driving growth through white space market entries, most notably in Syria, which are making a meaningful contribution and which will drive further growth in H2. In NGP, we had the impact of the promotional activities in the U.S. that I mentioned earlier. Given our clear focus on modern oral in the U.S., we've taken the decision to transition out of the U.S. vapor category. This move will help to reduce NGP losses in H2.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

As a reminder, our U.S. vape proposition, our legacy myblu device, first launched almost a decade ago. It makes a small and declining contribution to revenue. We expect a stronger NGP performance in H2 in both net revenue and AOP growth. Altogether, these one-offs had an impact of over GBP 50 million in H1. This will be much reduced in H2, as I've explained. This, combined with usual benefits of price and operational gearing, means that we are confident of a step-up in performance in H2 and remain committed to our previous full year guidance. Now, as CFO, I want to ensure we're always transparent about items that we classify as adjustments. Today, we're disclosing charges related to our 2030 strategy and historical legal cases.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Charges related to our 2030 strategy are in line with guidance that we gave at our Capital Markets Day back in March 2025, and relate to the rationalization of our manufacturing footprint and our transformation program. This includes our exit from Langenhagen. We'll start to see the benefits from this and the recently announced sale of our Taiwan factory coming through in the second half. We have hit the ground running in our long-term partnership with Capgemini, and in the second half, we'll start to accrue the benefits of this new partnership. Lukas will discuss these in more detail later. Our transformation is ongoing, and remaining costs will be adjusting items in future years. We also still show charges related to the settlement of the Delaware case. All historical charges have been adjusted out.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Cash costs will be reflected in our free cash flow in line with the payment schedule agreed. As a reminder, that's GBP 150 million in half one this year, then the remaining GBP 162 million in roughly equal installments over the next three years. Our adjusted EPS reflects our operating profit growth and the reduced share count due to our ongoing share buyback. Increase in finance costs was offset by lower tax and minority interest charges. The adjusted effective tax rate at 23.5% remained flat on the same period a year ago. Turning to cash and capital allocation. Our operating cash conversion was 98% on a 12-month basis, reflecting our continued focus on working capital. Our cash flow performance compares well versus prior years. Disciplined capital allocation remains a key part of how we create value.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Leverage at the half-year remained flat year-on-year, and we're on track to be around the lower end of our target range at year end. We've announced a 4% increase in our ordinary dividend, and we're on track with our GBP 1.45 billion share buyback. Now, this is our fourth consecutive year of share buybacks and brings the total capital returned to investors since the program started to GBP 4.8 billion. Taken alongside dividend payments, total cumulative capital returns from FY 2021 to half-year 2026 now sits at eleven and a half billion pounds. This represents around 77% of our market capitalization at the time of our Capital Markets Day back in January 2021.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

To remind you, as we stated at Capital Markets Day in March 2025, we are committed to an evergreen, always-on share buyback throughout this five-year strategic period. To close my section, we maintain our full year guidance. We continue to expect full year tobacco net revenue growth in the low single digits and double-digit NGP net revenue growth. Adjusted operating profit growth will be within our midterm growth range target of 3% to 5%, and we expect at least high single-digit EPS growth for the full year period, supported by profit growth and the ongoing share buyback, all at constant currency. We expect at least GBP 2.2 billion of free cash flow, including the impact of cash costs related to Delaware settlement and the implementation of our 2030 strategy.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

On the Middle East, our position is similar to where it was when we issued our trading statement last month. We have not seen a material impact from the crisis in the Middle East to date. Clearly, the longer the situation persists, the more likely there could be a meaningful impact on input costs and consumer demand, including duty-free. Now, our business has proven its resilience during past crises. We've managed through them before, and if necessary, we will take mitigating actions. At current rates, we expect foreign exchange to be a headwind of 0% to 1% to operating profit and EPS growth. As usual, there's a slide in the appendices with guidance on specific items. We also remain committed to the medium-term guidance we set out at our CMD in March 2025. This means we remain well-placed to generate long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

I'll now hand back to Lukas, who will give an update on operational performance. Lukas.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you very much, Murray. What I want to do in this section is take you through our strategy, shown here on the wheel. I will explain how in just six months into this five-year strategic period, we've already made rapid progress. We are performing today. We are delivering significant self-help efficiencies, and we are transforming to unlock long-term growth. I'm going to start with the segment on the top left and talk about how we are creating sustainable value in combustibles. Here, we're carefully balancing the triangular equation of price, volume, and share. In each of our region, as you saw, pricing has once again more than offset volume declines. In the majority of markets, tobacco continues to be affordable. The tobacco value creation model is working well.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Looking at the left of this slide, we're comfortable with how each of the individual priority markets has delivered. The U.S. and Spain have been executing with discipline, focusing on winning the more valuable segments, while pricing responsibly in the lower price segments to maximize sustainable value. Germany has delivered a great performance in what is an intensely competitive market. As a reminder, our U.K. and Australia teams, who operate in declining markets, are tasked with prioritizing value over volume and share. In that context, a 60 basis points aggregate share reduction in a given period is consistent with running the business for sustainable value creation. Before we move to the right-hand side, let me make a few further points about how we see market conditions evolving and the implication for how we approach market share.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

As we said at the last year's CMD, share is important, and we will not return to the period before 2020, when we were consistently the industry number one share donor. Across all our major markets, pricing ladders are becoming more stretched. This means the gap in industry gross margin between the premium segment and the deep discount is growing. It's a simple point, but it's worthwhile emphasizing. Not all basis points of market share are equal. This evolving market dynamics is requiring us, as a challenger business, to fine-tune how we manage our portfolio to take a more focused segment-by-segment approach. On the right, you can see the significant and growing difference in the gross margin per 1,000 sticks that we can achieve at the top of the price ladder versus the discount segment in the U.S., Germany, and Spain.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

This widening spread means it is increasingly important for us to double down on premium segments while, of course, maintaining a strong presence at the discount end of the market. In each market, we focus on nurturing our premium brands, aiming to grow our share of that segment. At the same time, we seek to achieve the right balance of price and volume in the discount segment to deliver sustainable value over the long term for shareholders. In line with this approach, in the U.S., we have been operating with discipline in a market which has seen growth in the deep discount segment and new brand launches. As I mentioned, we have been successfully defending our premium brands, KOOL and Winston, and expanding share of that segment.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

In deep discount, Crowns continues to take share, but we have been mindful in balancing price with segment share, given the increased competitive intensity. We have also launched a new brand, Malibu, which is enabling us to take more pricing on other brands. It is another lever for us to balance the volume and value equation. Our cigar business also continues to perform well, with Backwoods gaining segment share and delivering strong revenue growth. Our other priority markets have been playing the individual roles we ascribed to them in our Evolve 2030 strategy. In Germany, the market remains highly attractive, with a good performance in cigarettes, with growth in both the premium and discount segments. In Spain, which had a low market volume decline of only 2% in half one, the focus is again on value.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

The U.K. is maximizing value in combustibles while growing share in vape and modern oral. The Australian team continue to find opportunities in what, as you all know, is a challenging market. Turning to NGP. Since rebooting our NGP business five years ago, we have established clearly focused brands and products. Across all three categories, once again, we have grown share. As we build scale, we are seeing attractive gross margins. Our approach to market entry remains consistent. We will enter markets only where the category has been created and where we have an existing route to market. Our launch into the U.S. OND market is a good example of this challenger approach. We launched our Zone brands just over two years ago, and we are really pleased with the performance.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

This is a fast-growing but still nascent category, which is now around 10% of the legal nicotine market. The industry is investing significantly to grow the category and build brands with heightened promotional activity and trialing. This is the normal thing you expect to see market leaders doing in order to create long-term value. What this means is, in the short term, volume will grow well ahead of value. Within this industry context, we are applying our challenger mentality by being choiceful and agile in our approach. Our focus is on patiently growing volume share by building differentiated brands through consumer activation. For example, through our NASCAR partnership. In the first half, we delivered volume growth ahead of the category and grew share to 2.8%, up from the same period last year.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Net revenue grew by 20%, excluding the impact of the Zone promotional activity over the year-end that Murray mentioned earlier. A positive performance in the U.S. We are equally excited about the development of our European modern oral business. In Europe, our product portfolio is led by our European variant of Zone and the well-established Skruf brand. In the first half, we launched an improved pouch format and new flavors in Sweden. In Norway, Skruf is now the biggest brand. As you heard and saw at our full year results in November, we have also launched Zone in the U.K. Here, we have now reached 3% share in the independent channel, where we focused our initial launch, and we are now rolling it out across national accounts. Now turning to vapor.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

In the first half, we saw share growth of 130 basis points across all our footprint. Our investment is focused on Europe, we are growing share across many of our major markets in the region. In particular, we saw strong growth in the U.K. and France, where our rechargeable blu kits are capturing share. You will remember both those markets banned disposable devices last year. In heated tobacco, we are growing share across all our markets. This broad-based success has been underpinned by positive consumer response to our Pulze 3.0 device launched in the second half of last year. Our iSENZIA flavored herbal sticks continue to perform well, and we have refreshed our range of tobacco-based sticks to ensure it fully addresses the needs of our target consumer, adult cigarette smokers transitioning into the category.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

I look forward to providing you with further updates at our full year results. I've covered the strategic priorities, how we are driving sustainable value in combustibles and building scale in NGP. Now I want to turn to the strategic enablers, the key elements of our plan that help us deliver consistent top and bottom-line progress, both now and in the future. I believe our distinctive challenger approach to consumer insights, brand building, and innovation is a key source of our success. Many of you will have heard Paula, our Chief Consumer Officer, outline our philosophy at last year's CMD. It is about getting as close as possible to our target consumers, creating differentiated brands which meet their needs, then innovating in a focused way to address their pain points.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Over the past six months, we have continued to embed this way of working, and it's delivering measurable progress. You can see here on the slide a selection of our most recent brand activities and their positive impact on our commercial success. In combustibles, our Davidoff Rolls and the DFX line extensions are helping to drive share, offering greater choice for premium smokers. Innovation in our iconic Backwoods brand with the True Wraps range is driving share in this emerging high-growth segment. In modern oral, we have introduced a range of innovations carefully targeted at priority consumer segments. As I said earlier, we are focused both on self-help activities to drive efficiency and investment in capabilities to drive revenue growth.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

In terms of efficiency, on the left, we are well on track to deliver the GBP 320 million of annual savings by the end of this strategic period, a commitment we made at the CMD. In particular, we are making good progress on the rationalization of our factory footprint. In our Langenhagen factory in Germany, we have now completed the social plan negotiations with colleague representatives, and we are on track to cease production in July 2027. Last week, we announced the sale of our factory in Taiwan. This process will also be complete by next summer. Taken together, these two actions, when completed, will reduce overheads by GBP 100 million.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Alongside these actions, we continue to drive manufacturing excellence across our remaining factories, improving quality and delivering further efficiencies of GBP 25 million in fiscal year 2026. At the same time, we are making progress in delivering operational efficiencies, with a transfer of around 400 roles to our new strategic partner, Capgemini. While efficiency is a necessary element of our transformation, the big differentiator for us is the development of new capabilities to support long-term revenue growth, shown here on the right. The Capgemini partnership will accelerate our adoption of technology, simplify our processes, and provide new consumer capabilities, in turn, help us capture new commercial opportunities. The partnership will also support delivery of projects already in flight, such as the continued rollout of our enterprise platforms, including SAP S/4HANA, Salesforce, and Blue Yonder. Let me now bring everything together.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

We have shown how our consistent financial performance continues to drive strong cash generation, GBP 2.6 billion over the past 12 months, and this is underpinning consistent capital returns. We have shown that we are well-placed to deliver our planned step-up in financial performance in the second half, and we remain committed to the guidance we have previously given. Furthermore, we have shown you the rapid progress we have made over the past six months in the strategic transformation of our business. This is delivering material efficiencies in the short term and, more importantly, will enable more consistent top-line growth, helping us become an even stronger challenger business. We believe this all adds up to an attractive investment proposition. Operational delivery translating into revenue growth, profit growth, and high single-digit EPS growth, along with strong cash flows.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

All this enables highly sustainable capital returns, including our always-on evergreen share buyback. To our shareholders, thank you for your continued support. Thank you all for listening to this presentation. This concludes the presentation, Murray and myself, we very much look forward to your questions, and I would ask John please to moderate and open the Q&A section, please. Thank you.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Thanks, Lukas. Just before we come to questions in the room, if you're watching us online, hopefully on your screen you should be able to see where you can type in a question. That'll then come through to me in the room, and we can ask that. Similarly, if you're listening on the telephone, you should have been given instructions on how to register a question. We'll give you a reminder as well when we come to the phone lines. Questions in the room, if you could give your name and where you're from, just for people listening on the webcast in case they can't see you. Yeah, let's start with Faham in the front row. Faham?

Analyst

Thanks, guys, for the presentation. Two from me. If I look at your guidance historically on EBIT growth, it's been relatively narrow over the last couple of years, whereas this year, despite seeing the last six, seven months, you've stuck with the 3%-5%. I wanted to ask at this stage whether you think the lower half or the upper half of the guidance is likely, or if you can't be as detailed, maybe talking about some of the moving parts that could see you at the upper end or lower end could be quite helpful. The second question is on market share. It's a two-part question.

Analyst

Number one, from an industry volume standpoint, is the situation in terms of volume declines better than where we've been in the past, which allows you to accept slight share losses, is the first part of the question. The second part of the question is, given this increased focus on more profitable segments, is it better to look at value share compared to volume share as the key metric going forward? Thank you.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you very much, Faham. Let me answer the questions, and hopefully I don't forget the latter ones. Let me start with the first one with the guidance. Listen, we have given the first guidance at our Capital Markets Day, which is a 3%-5% AOP growth over the next five years. We've reiterated that guidance at the full year. We have delivered a strong performance at the half year. We have shown you some of the implications that go on top of the normal second half phasing, which is due to pricing increase in the second half, which, you know, very nicely showed the over GBP 50 million impact in the first half, which we believe will ease in the second half. We're well on track to deliver the full year guidance. There's really not much more I can say.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

This is our guidance, you know, we will deliver within that guidance. That's on the guidance. Market share. Let me separate there also between volume and sort of value share. Indeed, you know, the volumes are doing very well. You know, it's another year where our volumes at half year are only down 1.5%. Obviously, you have different proportions, different mix. You also have heard that we entered new white spaces, among them, Syria, which used to be a big cigarette market and is doing very well. That obviously has an impact. Again, we don't guide on volume share, I would always caution that the long-term trend is 3%-5% negative.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Every year we're doing better is great. To get to our target net revenue of 1%-2%, we need to price less, and that is always helpful for the consumer. That's good. That's on the volume. Our share discussion and, you know, your focus on segment is really an evolution. I just wanna reiterate how important share is for any company. Share is one of the metrics we look at next to net revenue, operating profit, and many other metrics we have, and it's really about this careful triangulation of price, volume, and share in an environment where your gross margin has evolved significantly from the top to the bottom. We will play in all segments because we start with the consumer. Wherever the consumer is, we will be there.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

While we double down on the top, we'll also make sure that we are pricing responsibly at the bottom. That's what we're looking at at the market share. To your question, it is a good question, is value share the better one? Listen, we've done this now for the last 30 years. Value share has its benefits, has also its downsides, the same as volume share. In our industry, value share is more difficult to calculate. We don't have the means and the data to do that. Any focus on value or volume share will always lead to a narrow view. That's why it is more important for us, actually, rather than seeing whether we switch to value share, to focus on the triangulation of volume, price, and share. Sorry for the longer explanation, I thought it might be useful. Pallav?

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Okay, thanks. Next one. Yeah.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Pallav? Yes. I took over.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

It's all right.

Analyst

Pallav Mittal from Barclays, two for me, please. Given the new FDA guidance on enforcement priorities in the US and your plan to exit the myblu business, how should we think about your NGP strategy going forward? Specifically in the US, do you have any products in the pipeline that you can launch quickly on nicotine pouches or vapor? That's the first one. Secondly, on the German market, on the tax environment, there seems to be the five-year plan is coming to an end, and there seems to be a plan to increase the taxes significantly. How should we think about your plans in the German market going forward?

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you very much, Pallav. I'll take the NGP point and then Murray will answer your questions on the German tax environment. Firstly, you know, we remain very pleased with the performance of our NGP business. We are here to build scale in NGP. We have done so over the last five years, building a strong base, and we have committed to a double-digit growth for the next few years, and we are on track to deliver on the full year. Now, specifically in the U.S., indeed, you have seen recently new FDA guidance, especially, you know, there've been a flurry of new guidance and comments, especially last week. There was one on Friday, which we would not want to comment at this stage because the FDA has committed to further clarification, probably today or throughout these days.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

We want to wait till the FDA has made further announcements to that. What is important for us that, in general, we welcome scientific-based approaches and approaches that actually allow adult smokers easier access to responsible products. In that way, we very much welcome the FDA's effort and genuine interest in reducing the backlog and accelerating the process. That is helpful for all players and is welcome, especially for our consumers. We are still and remain very excited with the U.S. in terms of NGP. We have mentioned to you that, you know, excluding the promotional activity that Murray mentioned, we have grown 40% in volume ahead of our of the category growth. We have grown 20%, and we're committed to the second half because we do have grandfathered rights and opportunities in products with strong strength and new flavor.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

We have a pipeline of innovation that will allow us to deliver on the second half and beyond. Very excited with that prospect. Finally, to comment on our myblu decision, which is very separate to the FDA announcement. Our myblu product is a 10-year-old product. It's an aging product which probably does not meet the consumer needs of today, has been making a very limited contribution to the business, and was loss-making. That's the reason we have transitioned out while we look into what we can do in the future, and we'll keep you informed of that. That's on the, sorry, on the NGP.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Yeah, Germany.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

on the Germany.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Look, for context, Germany is a market where it's typically got a very predictable tax environment. Every five years, the government republishes the tax plan for the next 5 years, which makes it, you know, from our perspective, a very well-managed market. You're right. The government's going through negotiation of the next five-year tax plan. I would say it is a market where there's always very positive engagement with the industry around the evolution of that plan, so we engage particularly with the Finance Ministry in Germany. Now, you would've seen in the press there was some suggestions recently of an increase in tax to support people in Germany with some of the rising fuel costs.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

It's clear that has met some opposition in terms of the initial proposals and is going through discussions just now. Our current view is that's highly unlikely to impact this financial year. Any changes may well be folded into the next five-year tax plan. We continue to positively engage with the ministry around that, but it's still uncertain as to how that will end. Our expectation is anything would probably have FY 2027 and onwards impact.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Okay. Great. Thank you. Did you get James there?

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

RBC.

Analyst

Sorry, James Edwardes Jones from RBC. Could I come back to the market share point? Accepting your point that it is actually difficult to calculate value market share, do you have some idea of value market share trends in the five priority markets that you could share with us?

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

It is more complicated than what you would expect. Obviously, we look at what we can get in terms of data, which we are, currently are not sharing externally because we are focusing on the volume share. I would, you know, step back, James, from that specific volume versus value share. By the nature of us looking at share volume and price, you, to some extent, do exactly that, actually consider the value of your share point. I mean, the point I was making before, the reason we are more fine-tuning our approach to market share, you know, being present in all three segments, but also looking at pricing, is because, as I mentioned before, not every BPS of volume share is equal.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

The way you look at that is through the gross margin and price lens, which is nothing other than an alternative way to look at it from a value share perspective.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Is that it, James? Do you have another one or? I thought you said that was the first one of many. No. Sorry, it's so unique for a sell-sider to ask one single question. I was slightly taken aback by that. Andre, do you wanna go next then?

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Yeah. Hold on. Yeah.

Analyst

Hi, good morning. This is Andrei Condrea from Jefferies. Two questions from me, please. Number one, how do you see the AMP needs of the NGP business evolving in H2, particularly given the news about the FDA potentially tolerating the sales of some pouch brands without authorization in the U.S. market, which could increase the competitive intensity kind of near to midterm? Secondly, there's been growing discussion about U.S. illicit e-vape enforcement improving. Could you perhaps give more color on how significant of a tailwind this has been in U.S. combustibles in H1, so for the combustibles business? Do you see this tailwind perhaps persisting into H2?

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Sorry, Andrei, I missed the first part. What were you looking for in the second half due to the FDA regulation?

Analyst

The AMP needs of the NGP business in the U.S.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

The what?

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

AMP of the NGP business.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

The AMP. Excellent. As I said before, you know, we welcome in general all the efforts of the FDA going in the direction of reducing backlog and accelerating the process. Our plans for the second half, you know, we are very committed in building long-term patiently a business in the U.S. around the OND, and we're making good progress. You've seen that at the first half. As I mentioned before, we have plans around strengths and flavors that we are gonna support. Those meet our consumer needs, we start with the consumer. We focus on the consumer. In our budget, we have sufficient AMP considered for what we are needing to do in the second half.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Trust me, I mean, you've seen the competitive intensity in the past, which is already very high. Even then, with our very focused approach on our consumers, we have been able to continue to expand our share. The second one is vape and illicit. Yes, we've always commented that the volumes are driven by four things in the U.S., which is mainly your secular exit of the category, your cross-category exit, so meaning you go from cigarettes to vape or something else, in this case, often illicit vape, you know, pricing and macroeconomics impact. We've always highlighted that actually the bigger impact when the volumes were above 7%, 8% decrease was the macroeconomic impact and especially the illicit. Actually both the same way. You've seen that our volumes have improved.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

The industry volumes have improved in the U.S., which is great news, which means that, you know, we go back to that normality which some of you doubted we would get back to. If you look at the data underneath it, the two drivers there are equally again vape, the illicit vape, and the macroeconomic impact, meaning that we see the enforcement, while not perfect, while probably not taking away the illicit, has made a dent in the volumes. It makes a difference. You know, if you listen to the U.S. government and you see at the actions, I have no doubt that that will continue in the second half.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

You've also seen, I can't tell you what the impact is of the Middle East crisis in the U.S. consumer sentiment, you have seen an increased improvement in the consumer sentiment. In fact, it is remarkable to see how strong the U.S. economy is still doing after three months of the Middle East crisis, that trickles down in better volumes as well. We would expect this to continue in the short term.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Okay. Just gonna go to online, and then I'll come back into the room. David [Lee] from Morgan Stanley's just asked two questions online. Following on from that, at what point does the Middle East conflict impact FY 2026 guidance? Probably one for you, Murray. The second one is, can you give some more detail about progress towards getting double duty drawback benefit? What still needs to happen to become compliant? How should we think about timing and magnitude?

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Do you wanna take the fiscal 2026?

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Yeah.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

I'll talk to the-

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Yeah. Thanks for the question, Dave. Look, you know, as I said during the presentation, we haven't seen a meaningful impact of the Middle East crisis to date. Clearly, if you look out into the future, you know, we see potential impact across the area. One would be input cost. The reality for us during the course of FY 2026, we'd expect minimal impact on input costs given the amount of fixing we've got in some of our supply coming in for the balance of the year. If it goes on long-term through FY 2027, naturally we'd expect to see some impact through that. Second is duty-free. There are reduced volumes in duty-free in the Middle East airports, so clearly there's less people going through that. From a group perspective, that's largely manageable as we look across this year.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

The third is, and this is the unknown, is the consumer impact. What we haven't seen so far is a real shift in consumer buying habits. With higher gas prices at pump in the U.S. and other markets, you know, at some point that could impact the consumer buying habit, whether they buy less often, whether more move into illicit, or whether they buy cheaper products. We haven't seen it so far. That's the unknown for us at this point in time. I can't give you a, you know, a date at which suddenly it becomes a problem for us. I haven't seen the impact so far. We monitor it very closely, but at this stage we are confirming our guidance for the full year.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

I think if I may just on, before I go to the duty drawback. You know, the Middle East crisis is one of many crisis we are going through again. I think all of our consumer peers will look at what happens to the consumer sentiment in months to come. Right now, as Murray said, there's no impact and we are well on track to deliver fiscal year 2026. I would also draw your attention on the past, you know. We will continue to be monitoring the situation. We'll certainly not be complacent, and we will hopefully be as resilient as in the past. Think about Ukraine, think about the Red Sea crisis, the hyperinflation.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

We've been tested, and we have shown that this industry and this company is resilient to crisis, and so we'll continue to monitor and react to whatever comes in the future. Duty drawback. Duty drawback, with the clarity we have obtained in August, we are working expeditiously on setting up a duty drawback system, leveraging our global presence. That is not the challenge. The challenge is to get this done in a way that is approved by the FDA. We need to approve factories or sites abroad for it to be, you know, certified to import into the U.S. We're well on track, but it takes time. We expect a meaningful contribution of that scheme in fiscal year 2026.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

2027.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Excuse me. Thank you for clarifying. 2027. I am ahead of my time. Fiscal year 2027, just to clarify. Most likely in the second half of 2027, and then the full impact in fiscal year 2028.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Okay. Let's go back in the room. Damian, do you have your-

Analyst

Thank you. Damian McNeela at Deutsche Bank. Two please. First one on U.S. vape. I think you obviously pulled out and you sort of said you're watching the marketplace. Can you give us some insights into what you're specifically looking for for perhaps a market re-entry into U.S. vape? Secondly, perhaps category is clearly growing globally, but you're only in seven markets. Are you looking at actively at-

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Which category, sorry, Damian?

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Pouch.

Analyst

Pouches.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Oh, pouches.

Analyst

Pouches. Are you actively looking at additional markets to roll out Zone and Skruf into, please?

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you, Damian. Listen, you know, we are a challenger market. A challenger market. Yeah, that is one. We are a challenger company, and as such, we will always look where we can use the best, where, you know, where we get the best return for our investments. Clearly, when you look at NGP, the OND business in the U.S. is highly attractive, and we're well on track to continue to expand our presence and our share. When it comes to vape, our biggest markets or regions is Europe, where we have 80% of our business in NGP, and we're growing rapidly. We expanded vape share by 130% this year, this half year. You know, in the U.S., you have, one, the PMTA process, which is still a lengthy, costly experience, and you still have a big illicit market.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

If I have to make choices right now, we are focusing on the OND markets where we have products, we have innovation in the pipeline that we can excite our consumers. We will continue to look at the vape markets, and at the right time, we'll see what we can do to come back. Pouches. You know, NGP business is an attractive business, but we are very disciplined in how we look at the NGP business. We will build patience in our business. We have committed to a double-digit growth, but we are not gonna create the market.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

As much as I understand the excitement in many markets about pouches, when you look at data, and remember, we are consumer first and data-driven company, the data is showing that the markets are very small. Hence, as the fourth largest in the industry and a responsible player also in regards to our shareholders, we will double down on those markets where we have a business or where the market has been created, and we have a route to market. We shy no effort in Eastern Europe where we have our heated tobacco. We have launched Zone in the U.K. We might launch it in one or two other markets, but it will be very measured launch.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

What we want is not to be everywhere a little bit, but we want to double down in those markets where there is a market, and we have a good understanding of our consumer, and we can reach them easily.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Okay, thanks. Any other questions in the room? Should we just go, Emma, just quickly on the lines? Do you wanna go to the phone lines and just a reminder for people there who wanna register a question perhaps?

Operator

Thank you. To ask a question, you need to press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. I'll hand back to you, John.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Thank you. That prompt has reminded Simon at Citi to register. Simon, do you want to go ahead and ask your question?

Analyst

Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Morning. Also late to the party. My 1st question was just around the ACE region, really. Could you talk a little bit more about the combustibles volume performance in the first half, maybe excluding Australia? How much of a volume benefit did you see from the innovation you've put in there as well as the new market launches? Was there some pipeline fill, how do we think about, you know, the volume outlook in that region in the second half of the year for combustibles specifically? Secondly, I may have missed it, but, you know, you highlighted sort of Lukas Paravicini in your remarks around the strong start you made on the transformation journey. You've highlighted the factory closures that, you know, that are underway.

Analyst

How big though were the efficiency savings in the first half? Should we expect to step up to those savings rates in the second half of the year, or is it really about, you know, 2027 is the year that we really see those big benefits starting to flow through?

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you, Simon. Murray, will you take the volumes in ACE?

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Yeah

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

I'll take the transformation.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

Yes. Look, on ACE, I think, Simon, it's important. ACE has a couple of different drivers that are really supporting volume from sales. Clearly, as you highlight, we've seen a drop in volumes in Australia. I think it's important to understand, you know, Australia from a group perspective is a very small amount of volume. I think it's less than 2% of our net revenue sits in Australia. In ACE, there's a couple of drivers that are really supporting volume growth. One is Africa has a really good strong performance again, we see good volume performance across that continent. The new market launches, Syria will have a meaningful contribution for us, a meaningful contribution in the first half, and again, will step up in the second half.

Murray McGowan
Murray McGowan
CFO at Imperial Brands

It'll help for strong performance within ACE volume as we go into the second half in combustibles. We don't guide on volumes per se, but I think that trend you see in volume will continue into the second half for those reasons.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you very much. Simon, thank you very much for asking about the transformation. We are excited about doing two things: performing in the short term, but also making sure that we can continue to perform in the long term by transforming our business. You know, it is equally transforming in the short term and the long term. Short term is we are delivering self-help efficiencies very clearly. I've given you data points like fiscal year 2025, 2026. I'm mistaken with the years. Apologies for that. Fiscal year 2026, we are looking into our factories, how to run them more efficiently, how to apply an operating model that really is consistent with what you see out there. It will deliver GBP 25 million this year, and more to come in the following years. We are looking at the factory footprint.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

We have, you know, exited two entities, which will cease production by summer 2027. That will deliver GBP 100 million progressively till we finish those transformations. Again, we are well on track and quick out of the blocks when it comes to the GBP 320 million efficiency savings that we have committed. There's no doubt about that. Efficiency is important to us because without efficiency, you cannot really be effective. The distinctive thing in our transformation is we don't just stop at the efficiency. We want to go beyond the efficiencies because we believe with our strategic partnership with Capgemini, efficiency is a given.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

What is really more interesting to us is how we can transform the business to be closer to our consumer, to build on the sales capabilities, tapping into the knowledge and technology that Capgemini has to grow a revenue in the future. I think that combination of short-term self-help efficiency, which will be progressively increasing over the next few years, and that better readiness to deliver also beyond 2030 revenue growth, is really what is distinctive in this transformation.

John-Paul Cross
John-Paul Cross
Director of Investor Relations at Imperial Brands

Okay. Thanks for that, Simon. Okay. I think there's nothing else online or on the phone, so I think I'll bring it to a close. Thanks everyone for joining us. Lukas, I'll hand it back to you.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

Thank you very much. Thank you. I know this is, you know, you've got lots of presentations, so I really appreciate you showing up and connecting online and showing interest in our company. I hope you have taken three things away from today. One is that we have delivered a good performance in the first half. We have grown our net revenue, our operating profit, and we have delivered yet another six months of very strong cash generation. I hope you leave this room and this online presentation with a strong confidence that we are well on track to deliver on the full year guidance. Thirdly, I hope you can see that we are not just performing today. We're making sure that we are transforming for tomorrow.

Lukas Paravicini
Lukas Paravicini
CEO at Imperial Brands

We're delivering self-help efficiencies in a meaningful way, and we're building the future in a way that we can continue to drive sustainable growth in the future. Thank you very much, and I'll keep seeing you soon. Thank you.

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