Capital Southwest Q4 2026 Earnings Results & Report

Capital Southwest EPS Results

• Actual EPS: N/A
• Consensus EPS: $0.56
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• One Year Ago EPS: $0.61
• EPS Beat Rate: 3 of last 8 quarters

Capital Southwest Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: N/A
• Expected Revenue: $61.78 million
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• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Capital Southwest (NASDAQ:CSWC) (NASDAQ: CSWC) is a business development company that provides financing to middle-market and lower-middle-market businesses in the United States. The company primarily invests in privately held companies that may require capital to support growth, acquisitions, recapitalizations, ownership transitions, or other strategic initiatives.

Its investment portfolio generally consists of senior secured loans, including first-lien and second-lien debt, as well as subordinated debt and equity investments. Capital Southwest works with companies across a range of industries and may invest alongside private equity sponsors or directly with business owners and management teams.

Founded in 1961 and headquartered in Dallas, Texas, Capital Southwest operates as a regulated investment company and business development company. Its investment activities are focused primarily on U.S.-based businesses, with an emphasis on providing flexible financing solutions and maintaining long-term relationships with portfolio companies.

Capital Southwest Q4 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: Capital Southwest said fiscal 2026 was an “outstanding year,” with the investment portfolio growing about 17% to $2.1 billion, investment income rising 14% to $232 million, and return on equity reaching an industry-leading 40%.
• Positive Sentiment: Credit quality remained solid, with non-accruals falling to 1.1% of fair value and watch list performance improving, including two companies removed after returning to plan.
• Positive Sentiment: The company’s equity portfolio continues to be a meaningful source of upside, ending the year with $37.8 million of unrealized appreciation and $1.07 per share of undistributed taxable income, which management expects to support future supplemental dividends.
• Positive Sentiment: Dividend coverage and balance sheet liquidity remain strong, with 109% cumulative dividend coverage since launch, a new quarterly dividend declaration of $0.64 per share, and more than $394 million of cash and undrawn leverage plus SBA capacity.
• Neutral Sentiment: Management continued to emphasize disciplined, first-lien senior secured lending and expansion of capital sources, while also highlighting growth in the Trinity joint venture, which now has about $85 million of assets and is expected to ramp over 18 to 24 months toward a 13%-14% return.

Presentation

[Operator]

Thank you for joining today's Capital Southwest fourth quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings call. Participating on today's call are Michael Sarner, Chief Executive Officer, Chris Rehberger, Chief Financial Officer, Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer, and Amy Baker, Executive Vice President, Accounting. I will now turn the call over to Amy Baker.

[Amy Baker, EVP and Accounting at Capital Southwest]

Thank you. I would like to remind everyone that in the course of this call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current conditions, currently available information, and management's expectations, assumptions, and beliefs. They are not guarantees of future results and are subject to numerous risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. For information concerning these risks and uncertainties, see Capital Southwest's publicly available filings with the SEC. The company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, changing circumstances, or any other reason after the date of this press release, except as required by law. I will now hand the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Sarner.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Thanks, Amy, and thank you everyone for joining us for our fourth quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings call. We're pleased to be with you today to discuss our fourth fiscal quarter and the 2026 fiscal year. Overall, 2026 was an outstanding year for Capital Southwest by any measure. During the year, we grew our investment portfolio by approximately $300 million or 17% from $1.8 billion to $2.1 billion. Deal activity was robust with $762 million in new committed investment originations. Additionally, we grew investment income by $28 million or 14% from $204 million to $232 million. Despite a backdrop of pronounced volatility, we preserved the value of our portfolio.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

NAV per share closed the year at $16.69, essentially unchanged from $16.70 in the prior year, underscoring the resilience of our platform and the durability of our underwriting. As a result of our consistent investment strategy and strong operating performance, we've delivered an industry-leading 40% return on equity for our shareholders during fiscal year 2026. Despite relentless market disruptions this year, from Liberation Day to the private credit contagion to the conflict in Iran, we continue to execute with consistency. The market has recognized that stability, and our stock performance reflects the value of our approach.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

The quality of our debt portfolio remains strong, reflected in a weighted average leverage of 3.6x, weighted average interest coverage of 3.5x, and non-accruals of 1.1% at fair value, down from 1.7% in the prior year. During the quarter, we saw improved performance across our watch list, with seven companies demonstrating meaningful progress and two removed from the watch list following a return to plan. We attribute much of this improvement to our portfolio operations group, which works closely with our deal teams on credits that require additional support. This team is driving tangible value at the portfolio level, which in turn contributes to stronger overall performance and enhanced long-term shareholder value.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Additionally, our equity portfolio continues to perform well with net unrealized appreciation of $37.8 million or $0.62 per share as of the end of fiscal year 2026. We anticipate that a portion of this appreciation will be harvested as realized gains in fiscal year 2027 and thus will be available in our UTI bucket to support future dividend distributions. With $1.07 per share of undistributed taxable income, we are entering the year from a position of strength. Over the last 12 months, we have harvested $36.9 million in realized gains from equity exits, driving UTI growth from $0.79 per share in March 2025 to today's level.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Our UTI balance highlights both the reliability of our realization engine and our conservative approach to dividend distributions when base rates were elevated, resulting in a meaningful balance of taxable income, which we intend to distribute to our shareholders over time. Looking ahead, we are confident in our ability to continue generating realized gains that will support and expand our UTI balance. That confidence is grounded in the strength of our investment strategy in the lower middle market. At origination, we typically see three distinct avenues for equity value creation. First, new investments often present low-hanging fruit opportunities, operational or strategic adjustments the sponsor can implement immediately to drive meaningful EBITDA uplift. Second, following a change of control, the sponsor and management team activate a set of targeted growth initiatives designed to accelerate both revenue expansion and margin improvement.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

In many cases, the team has already identified actionable M&A opportunities that can further scale the platform, broaden its capabilities, and diversify the business. As EBITDA grows and the business becomes more resilient and diversified, we expect these initiatives to enhance enterprise value and ultimately result in realized gains on our equity investments. We were also extremely active during the year in diversifying our sources of capital.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

We raised over $465 million in new debt capital commitments in the form of $350 million, 5.9% bond issuance, $90 million in approved leverage commitments for our second SBIC fund, and an additional $25 million in new secured debt commitments on our corporate credit facility. Additionally, we raised over $160 million in gross equity proceeds on our ATM program during the year at a weighted average price of 1.3x the prevailing NAV per share. Having continual access to the public equity market through the ATM program is a tremendous tool which we can use in all market environments. We have also made meaningful progress on CapTrin Partners, our joint venture with Trinity Capital. The JV now holds approximately $85 million in assets, and we expect to continue originating low leverage, high quality investments within this structure.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Subsequent to quarter end, we closed a $150 million revolving credit facility, further expanding the JV's capacity and competitiveness. This facility provides the liquidity to meaningfully increase the scale of our joint venture over time and advance rates that should produce a 13%-14% return once fully ramped. From a relationship standpoint, we could not be more impressed with Kyle and the entire Trinity team, and we look forward to exploring additional avenues where we can create value for both organizations. Finally, this year we continued our long track record of producing steady dividend distributions, consistent dividend coverage, and solid value creation.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Despite a year in which SOFR shrunk by approximately 60 basis points, we increased our total dividends paid from $2.54 per share in fiscal year 2025 to $2.56 per share in fiscal year 2026. Dividend sustainability, strong credit performance, and continued access to capital from multiple capital sources are all core to our overall business strategy. Our track record in all these areas demonstrates consistent performance as well as the absolute alignment of all our decisions with the interests of our fellow shareholders. Broader middle market M&A headlines have highlighted a slowdown tied to technology uncertainty, AI-related risks, and inflation concerns stemming from the conflict in Iran, our vantage point in the lower middle market tells a very different story. Activity in this segment has historically been, and continues to be, remarkably steady.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Founder-driven catalysts such as retirement, succession planning, estate considerations, and the desire to de-risk after years of value creation do not fluctuate with macro sentiment or quarterly volatility. As a result, the lower middle market consistently offers a more resilient and predictable transaction environment, a characteristic that remains significantly underappreciated. From a Capital Southwest perspective, we have seen a meaningful increase in new deals reviewed, advanced, and ultimately closed. However, our close rate, which has historically averaged roughly 2%, has moderated to 1.5%. This decline reflects our continued discipline in pricing and structuring transactions based on the risk we underwrite, not simply the terms required to win a deal. We attribute the increase in deal flow to the continued development of our deal leads, the addition of two Managing Directors, and the joint venture, which has enhanced our competitiveness on higher quality opportunities.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Despite this increase in deal flow, we've also seen tightening in leverage levels and loan-to-value ratios, underscoring the importance of maintaining our disciplined approach as the market continues to reprice risk. In summary, we are extremely proud of our performance throughout fiscal year 2026, and we remain confident in the long-term prospects for our company and the opportunities ahead. I'll now hand the call over to Josh to review some more specifics of our investment activity.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

Thanks, Michael. This quarter, we deployed a total of $158 million of new committed capital, consisting of $112 million in first-lien senior secured debt and $2 million of equity across five new portfolio companies. We also completed add-on financings for 12 existing portfolio companies, totaling $43 million in first-lien senior secured debt and $650,000 in equity. Add-on financings continue to be an important source of originations for us, as over the last 12 months, add-ons as a percent of total new commitments have been 31%. These opportunities allow us to deploy capital into businesses we know well with proven management teams and sponsors. The weighted average spread on our new commitments this quarter was approximately 6.6%, which we view as extremely attractive given today's competitive spread environment.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

Our on-balance sheet credit portfolio ended the quarter at $1.9 billion, representing 19% year-over-year growth from $1.6 billion as of March 2025. Importantly, 100% of our new portfolio company debt originations were first-lien senior secured. As of quarter end, 99% of the credit portfolio remained first-lien senior secured with a weighted average exposure per company of only 0.9%. This level of portfolio granularity reflects our disciplined approach to risk management as we continue to scale the balance sheet. The vast majority of our deal activity continues to be in first-lien senior secured loans to private equity-backed companies. Approximately 93% of our credit portfolio is sponsor-backed, which provides strong governance, operational support, and when needed, the potential for junior capital.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

In the lower middle market, we frequently have the opportunity to invest on a minority basis in the equity of our portfolio companies, pari passu with the private equity firm when we believe the equity thesis is compelling. As of quarter end, our equity co-investment portfolio consisted of 87 investments with a total fair value of $181 million, representing 9% of our total portfolio at fair value. This portfolio was marked at 126% of our cost, representing $37.8 million of embedded unrealized appreciation or $0.62 per share. These equity positions continue to give our shareholders meaningful upside participation in growing lower middle market businesses driven by both operational improvements and strategic add-on acquisitions. The lower middle market remains competitive as this segment of the market continue to attract both bank and non-bank lenders.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

Although this environment has produced tighter loan pricing for higher quality opportunities, the depth and durability of our sponsor relationships our team has built, combined with the enhanced deal flow generated by our expanded and more seasoned investment staff, continue to position us to source and win transactions with compelling risk-return profiles. Today, our portfolio includes investments from 88 unique private equity firms. Over the past 12 months, we closed 13 new platform investments with sponsors with which we had not previously partnered. Since launching our credit strategy, we have completed transactions with over 130 private equity firms nationwide, including more than 20% with whom we have completed multiple deals.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

Our portfolio now consists of 131 portfolio companies allocated 90.1% to first-lien senior secured debt, 1.2% to second-lien senior secured debt, and 8.6% to equity co-investments. The credit portfolio generated a weighted average yield of 10.8% with weighted average leverage through our security of 3.6x EBITDA. We remain pleased with the overall performance of the portfolio. At origination, all loans are initially assigned an investment rating of a two on a five-point scale, with one being the highest rating and five being the lowest rating. As of quarter end, 88% of the portfolio at fair value was rated in the top two categories.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

Cash flow coverage remains strong at 3.5x, reflecting an improvement from the 2.9x low observed during the peak of base rates. This strength is further supported by the fact that our loans represent, on average, only 43% of portfolio company enterprise value. Our portfolio remains broadly diversified across industries, and our average exposure per company of less than 1% continues to provide meaningful protection against idiosyncratic risk. For new platform deals closed during the March quarter, weighted average senior leverage was 2.7x debt to EBITDA and weighted average loan-to-value was 33%, providing a substantial equity cushion beneath our debt. Over the past 12 months, new platform originations have averaged 3.1x senior leverage and 35% loan-to-value, underscoring our consistent commitment to conservative underwriting.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

I will now hand the call over to Chris to review the specifics of our financial performance for the quarter.

[Chris Rehberger, CFO at Capital Southwest]

Thanks, Josh. Specific to our performance for the quarter, pre-tax net investment income was $35.2 million or $0.59 per share. For the quarter, total investment income decreased to $57.8 million from $61.4 million in the prior quarter. The decrease was primarily driven by a $2.2 million decrease in interest and dividend income and a decrease of $0.8 million in PIK income. The decrease in interest income was predominantly driven by a 35 basis point decrease in SOFR compared to the prior quarter. As of the end of the quarter, our loans on non-accrual represented 1.1% of our investment portfolio at fair value, a decrease from 1.5% as of the end of the prior quarter.

[Chris Rehberger, CFO at Capital Southwest]

During the quarter, we paid a $0.58 per share regular dividend paid monthly and a $0.06 per share supplemental quarterly dividend. For the June 2026 quarter, our board has again declared a total of $0.58 per share in regular quarterly dividends payable monthly in each of April, May, and June 2026, and maintains the $0.06 supplemental quarterly dividend also payable in June, bringing total dividends declared to $0.64 per share. We continue to demonstrate strong dividend coverage with 109% cumulative coverage since launching our credit strategy. With a UTI balance of $1.07 per share and a sizable unrealized appreciation balance in our equity portfolio, we remain confident in our ability to continue distributing quarterly supplemental dividends over time.

[Chris Rehberger, CFO at Capital Southwest]

LTM operating leverage ended the quarter at 1.4%, a meaningful improvement from 1.7% in the prior quarter. Notably, this reduction occurred despite the addition of six new employees. Going forward, we expect to continue to add resources to our team while maintaining operating leverage in the 1.4%-1.5% range. Our operating leverage remains significantly better than the BDC industry median of approximately 2.7%, underscoring the inherent efficiency of the internally managed BDC model. This structure has consistently delivered meaningful fixed cost leverage to shareholders while still enabling us to invest in talent and infrastructure as we continue to scale a best-in-class BDC plan. NAV per share decreased to $16.69 per share, down from $16.75 per share in the prior quarter.

[Chris Rehberger, CFO at Capital Southwest]

The primary drivers of the NAV per share decline for the quarter were net realized and unrealized appreciation on our investment portfolio, offset by accretion from our equity ATM program. We raised approximately $25 million in gross equity proceeds during the quarter through our equity ATM program at a weighted average share price of $23.13 per share or 138% of the prevailing NAV per share, reinforcing our ability to raise capital efficiently and accretively. Our liquidity position remains robust. With approximately $394 million in cash and undrawn leverage commitments across our two credit facilities, +$42 million available on SBA debentures. In total, this represents more than 1.3x coverage of the $329 million in unfunded commitments across the portfolio. Regulatory leverage ended the quarter at 0.9 to one debt to equity.

[Chris Rehberger, CFO at Capital Southwest]

While our target leverage remains in the 0.85x to 0.95x range, we continue to factor in the current macroeconomic backdrop and intend to maintain a prudent leverage cushion to help mitigate capital markets volatility. We will continue to raise secured and unsecured debt capital as well as equity through our ATM program in a methodical and opportunistic manner to ensure we maintain significant liquidity and a conservatively constructed balance sheet with adequate covenant cushions. I will now hand the call back to Michael for some final comments.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Thank you, Chris, Josh, and Amy, and all the employees who help us tell this story on a quarterly basis. Thank you everyone for joining us today. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are ready to open the lines up for Q&A.

[Operator]

Certainly. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Erik Zwick from Lucid Capital Markets. Your question please.

[Erik Zwick, Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets]

Thank you. Good morning. If I could start, I'm just curious with regard to the unrealized depreciation in the credit portfolio in the quarter, was that primarily related to, you know, changes kind of market multiples or anything kind of more credit specific? Wondering if you could just expand on that a little bit?

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Yeah, I think we had one portfolio company that was added to our watch list that had a write-down, which we have confidence in the company, but it would have a fairly large write-down. The rest, as you said, multiples were down quite a bit this quarter, which is sort of an overhang. You know, when we went through our portfolio review, we pretty much identified, you know, about 95% of the portfolio was doing exceptionally well. Some of those didn't have write-ups because of those multiples. By and large, it was just one company, and then the overall market multiple.

[Erik Zwick, Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets]

Thank you. I appreciate that. Just looking at the trajectory of the dividend income that you received in the most recent year, it was up, you know, markedly from the prior year, from four and a half million to $12.7 million. Curious, you know, how much of that increase is sustainable or how much of that might have been kind of, you know, one-time dividends, just any outlook, any thoughts on outlook you might have there would be helpful.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Sure. Yeah, we've had a few companies that have done exceptionally well and have been making large distributions. I think that when the first half of this, our fiscal year will continue to see strong distributions from these companies, one or both could be in the market for sale at some point. Maybe that doesn't bleed into fiscal year 2028. For the next few quarters, we should expect to continue to see those dividends.

[Erik Zwick, Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets]

Thanks. Last one for me. You know, I look at the, you know, space of publicly traded BDCs. Capital Southwest has one of the lowest concentrations of software in the portfolio, which I guess puts you in a more, you know, favorable eye relative to many peers given the current market sentiment. Just curious, you know, why over time have you decided, you know, not to have that much exposure to software? Then the instances where you have made some investments, what attracted you to those particular companies?

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

I think a lot of the software companies honestly are generally larger and more venture. Those two together generally wouldn't fit our lens. The same could be said, a lot of these companies also have ARR, which are, you know, we generally are lending cash flow lenders. And we believe that, you know, lending off a multiple of EBITDA is a more conservative and prudent way to underwrite. I think that's generally been the reasons why. It's not that we haven't seen the opportunities, we just never gotten truly comfortable with them. I don't know, Josh.

[Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer at Capital Southwest]

Yeah. To Michael's point, we've seen them over the years. We reviewed them. It's just not something any of us previously have had a lot of experience with, and so we just couldn't really get comfortable or as comfortable with, you know, doing a lot of ARR deals and stuck to our knitting of cash flow lending for the most part.

[Erik Zwick, Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets]

I appreciate that. Just, you know, looking at back across your historical results, you've certainly done very well without it, so it's not like you've needed it. Thanks. I appreciate the insight there.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

I appreciate it.

[Operator]

Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Robert Dodd from Raymond James. Your question please.

[Robert Dodd, Analyst at Raymond James]

Hi guys. On the operating efficiency, to your point, you know, the 1.4-1.5, the advantage of being internally managed. In this quarter, obviously some expenses seemed pretty low. Another advantage, right? That gets adjusted by the board as you go. Can you give us any color about what was the driver there? Was it not hitting targets on deployment? Was it the fact that NAV was down, which may be temporary, but, you know, can you give us any idea like what got factored into why that was low in the fourth quarter? Just trying to get a feel for what didn't meet your expectations exactly.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Sure. You know what, I wouldn't frame it that way at all. I think the board and management felt that this was one of our strongest years for a variety of reasons. Essentially, we had some large fees came in over the year. We had some over accruals into the bonus pool, at the end of the year, you know, the board gets together to basically determine what they think that the final number would look like. We, you know, from where we had accrued through three quarters to where the payout was in the fourth quarter, we had some that was backed out. We paid over 100% in all cases for our employees.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Again, would frame this year as a very successful one.

[Chris Rehberger, CFO at Capital Southwest]

Yeah, Robert, I'll just jump in. Sort of going forward, because it was kind of low in the last quarter. You know, total compensation expense is sort of in the, in the five and a half million per quarter range. You know, That'll vacillate a little bit based on the discussion we just had, but that's sort of what you can expect going forward.

[Robert Dodd, Analyst at Raymond James]

Got it. Thank you. On the other one, to your point, you've got a lot of unrealized appreciation in the equity portfolio. Obviously, I don't have the March portfolio. The K is not out yet. If I look at the fourth quarter, the net number, there's a lot of net unrealized appreciation. As well, if you look just at the successes, you know, you've got $100 million in appreciation on assets, and then that's offset by some that are down. Just listening to your comment, it sounds like you're very confident some of that is gonna monetize this year.

[Robert Dodd, Analyst at Raymond James]

It might result in lower dividend income. You know, Yeah, what are those processes? Are there significant processes already underway to sell assets this, not, you know, by the sponsor, obviously, to sell assets this year that gives you that level of confidence? I mean, there's some, like ITA Group. I mean, that's There's a lot of appreciation in that asset, for example, right? Could you give us any incremental, and I know it's a touchy kind of topic, but any incremental info on where the level of confidence comes from? Is it gonna be some of your biggest appreciated assets that are likely to crystallize this year?

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Yeah. I think that there's two primary sales. I won't get into details, but I mean, one is actually been announced publicly that there's an IPO process which would result in us. We have shares in a company. We sold into a company that went public. We'd have the ability to sell those shares, and we have actually floors on what the equity value would look like. That is something that we'd expect to see happen in the next, you know, three months, four months. We have another company that's in the market. Now, it's still in the nascent stages. It is a fairly large position. We feel pretty confident based on where we are that there should be a sale there.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

If you look at the cost basis relative to the fair value, you know, obviously there's gonna be a large gains associated that'll go into our UTI bucket. It'll also allow us to, you know, reduce our cost of capital because obviously this is, you know, appreciation that's realized now becomes the ability to pay down our credit facility and/or re- you know, raise less shares. All of that gives us confidence both in these exits, in the ability to grow UTI, and the ability to continue to support our dividend going forward.

[Robert Dodd, Analyst at Raymond James]

Understood. Understood. Thank you. If I get one more quick one. On the JV, I think you said expected or the target, kind of return on capital to you from that vehicle is 13%-14% when fully ramped, obviously. I mean, is that like an Is the full ramp 18 months? You know, or yeah, I mean, I'm just You know, kind of what's the kind of timeframe to get to that kind of re- in that vehicle with the partner you have?

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Sure. I think the notion would be it's gonna take at least, I'm looking at Chris, 18-24 months before we see the full ramp. I think we're targeting, you know, 2x leverage plus. I, I think it's gonna take a little bit of time. I would say that we have the capital in-house, the $150 million credit facility, in order to achieve that leverage and achieve that returns. I do think, you know, we're looking at originating $30 million-$40 million a quarter in the fund. I think it's gonna take at least 1.5-2 years.

[Chris Rehberger, CFO at Capital Southwest]

Yeah. Robert, we're gonna be sort of efficient with the leverage there and try to, you know, being mindful of asset diversity and borrowing base. We'll probably try to ramp the leverage fairly in the fairly short term here. As we look ahead, agree with Michael's comments, it's gonna take kind of 18 months to full ramp. In the next six months, this should start producing double-digit returns for Capital Southwest. Call it, you know, six months, we're kind of at in the 11% range, we go from there.

[Robert Dodd, Analyst at Raymond James]

Got it. Thank you.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Yeah. Robert, I'd also like to add that the JV in itself. Certainly, there's gonna be an uplift of $0.01 or $0.02 from this fund by itself. Having this joint venture has been really important to the business in the way of us being able to be more competitive on deals that are priced, you know, somewhere in the, you know, SOFR plus 5 to 575, which historically we weren't bidding or winning on.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Today, we have the ability to both bid and win on these deals, maintain tight structures, and as well as, you know, earning the same type of spreads, the 6%-7% spreads that we're used to, through the last out positions on these credits.

[Robert Dodd, Analyst at Raymond James]

Got it. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Sean-Paul Adams from B. Riley Securities. Your question please.

[Sean-Paul Adams, Analyst at B. Riley Securities]

Hey, guys. Good morning. It looks like you guys have kinda ramped up on terms of the employee count and perhaps the deal team. Any color on how, you know, just these changes in, you know, the amount of employees and perhaps the amount of deals passing your desk are gonna, you know, look for, you know, next fiscal year's origination activity? Thanks.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Sure. Sure. Look, when we look back around, what? 15, 18 months ago, we had 27 employees. Today, we have, you know, as of the quarter end, we had 36, and we actually have another seven coming on. We're gonna actually be up to 43 employees. We built out our operations team over the last 18 months. We've added a new MD, a new vice president, a new principal, certainly added more support staff on the back office. The notion here is that, you know, with the new MD we have, with the maturation of the deal leads in place and the ability to continue to win new share and new sponsor relationships, we're just seeing enhanced deal flow.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Two years ago, I think we saw 800 deals that we looked at in one year. The run rate now is around 1,400 deals a year. We are adding staff to support the growth that we're seeing, and to strengthen, you know, the organization to continue to make great decisions, based on having the right people in the right place, you know, having time, and experience to review these opportunities.

[Sean-Paul Adams, Analyst at B. Riley Securities]

Perfect. Thank you for the color.

[Operator]

Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Michael Sarner for any further remarks.

[Michael Sarner, President and CEO at Capital Southwest]

Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for joining us today. Please feel free to call us any time with questions or get an update on the business. We look forward to catching up with you next quarter. Goodbye.

[Operator]

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

Participants

Executives

• Amy Baker, EVP and Accounting
• Chris Rehberger, CFO
• Josh Weinstein, Chief Investment Officer
• Michael Sarner, President and CEO

Analysts

• Erik Zwick, Analyst at Lucid Capital Markets
• Robert Dodd, Analyst at Raymond James
• Sean-Paul Adams, Analyst at B. Riley Securities