Hippo Q2 2026 Earnings Report

Hippo EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $0.79
• Consensus EPS: -$0.17
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.96
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Hippo Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $144.70 million
• Expected Revenue: $137.45 million
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$7.26 million
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Hippo Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q2 2026
• Date: 7/30/2026
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Thursday, July 30, 2026
• Conference Call Time: 8:00AM ET

Hippo (NYSE:HIPO) (NYSE:HIPO) is an insurance technology company focused on homeowners insurance in the United States. The company uses digital tools, data analytics and automation to simplify the process of obtaining and managing home insurance coverage.

Hippo’s offerings are designed to protect homes and personal property against covered risks such as damage from weather events, fire and theft. Its platform also emphasizes proactive home protection, including educational resources, monitoring tools and connected-home devices intended to help homeowners identify and address potential risks before they result in costly claims.

Founded in 2015 by Assaf Wand and Eyal Navon, Hippo expanded through a technology-driven, digitally distributed insurance model. The company serves eligible homeowners in participating states across the U.S. and became a publicly traded company in 2021 through a merger with Reinvent Technology Partners Z. Rick McCathron has served as Hippo’s chief executive officer, while co-founder Assaf Wand has held senior leadership and board roles.

Hippo Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: Strong profitable growth: Q2 gross written premium rose 61% year over year to $482 million, while net income reached $10 million and adjusted net income increased 24% to $21 million. Hippo reported its fifth consecutive quarter of profitability.
• Positive Sentiment: Underwriting and operating performance improved: The combined ratio fell four percentage points to 95.8%, the accident-year ex-catastrophe loss ratio improved to 45.8%, and the expense ratio declined to 45.4% as operating leverage and AI-supported efficiency increased.
• Positive Sentiment: Full-year guidance was raised: Hippo now expects 2026 gross written premium of $1.65 billion-$1.70 billion, a 99%-101% combined ratio, and adjusted net income of $62 million-$70 million. Management also raised its 2028 targets to more than $2.5 billion of premium and over $140 million of adjusted net income.
• Positive Sentiment: Reinsurance changes may reduce volatility: Moving catastrophic reinsurance to the corporate group level reportedly lowered probable maximum losses by more than 30%, while a new whole-account quota share adds flexibility to manage future growth and risk retention.
• Negative Sentiment: Market conditions are becoming more competitive in property insurance: Management said homeowners and commercial property markets are softening, with E&S growth being pulled back and renewal-rate increases expected to moderate. Hippo intends to reduce exposure where growth is not sufficiently profitable, which could constrain expansion in those lines.

Presentation

[Operator]

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Hippo Holdings Inc. Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Charles Sebaski, Investor Relations. Charles, please go ahead.

[Charles Sebaski, Head of Investor Relations at Hippo]

Good morning. Thank you for joining Hippo's second quarter 2026 earnings call. Earlier today, Hippo issued an earnings release announcing its Q2 results and a financial results presentation, which will be webcast during today's call, both of which are available at investors.hippo.com. Leading today's discussion will be Hippo President and Chief Executive Officer Rick McCathron and Chief Financial Officer Guy Zeltser. Following management's prepared remarks, we will open up the call to questions. Before we begin, we'd like to remind you that our discussion will contain predictions, expectations, forward-looking statements, and other information about our business that are based on management's current expectations as of the date of this presentation. Forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, Hippo's expectations or predictions of financial and business performance and conditions and competitive and industry outlook.

[Charles Sebaski, Head of Investor Relations at Hippo]

Forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from historical results and/or our forecasts, including those set forth in Hippo's Form 10-Q and 10-K. For more information, please refer to the risks and uncertainties and other factors discussed in Hippo's SEC filings, in particular, in the section entitled "Risk Factors" in our Form 10-Q and 10-K. All cautionary statements are applicable to any forward-looking statements we make whenever they appear. You should carefully consider the risks and uncertainties and other factors discussed in Hippo's SEC filings. Do not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, as Hippo is under no obligation and expressly disclaims any responsibility for updating, offering, or otherwise revising any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as required by law.

[Charles Sebaski, Head of Investor Relations at Hippo]

During this conference call, we will also refer to non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted net income. Our GAAP results and description of our non-GAAP financial measures with full reconciliation to GAAP can be found in the second quarter 2026 earnings release, which has been furnished to the SEC and is available on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rick McCathron, our President and CEO.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Thank you, Chuck, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. Hippo delivered another strong quarter building on the momentum we started the year with. We grew top and bottom line together, making our fifth straight quarter of profitability on both a stated and adjusted basis. For the quarter, we generated $10 million of net income, a nearly eightfold increase over last year, and $21 million of adjusted net income, a 24% increase over second quarter last year. Gross written premium came in at $482 million, up 61% over last year, led by the continued expansion of existing program partners in our casualty and CMP lines of business and a return to growth in our homeowners line. What stands out most isn't the growth itself; it's that we grew profitably.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Our combined ratio improved four percentage points year-over-year to 95.8%, and we're at 97.5% year-to-date, a 31 percentage point improvement over the first half of 2025. That combination, growth and underwriting discipline moving in lockstep, is the story of the quarter. Let's walk through it in more detail. In homeowners, we wrote $107 million of premium, up 7% over last year. Growth continues to come from our Progressive and Westwood partnerships, with admitted growth more than offsetting the pullback in E&S as the market becomes more competitive. Rate remains adequate, with mid- to high single-digit renewal rates this quarter, though we expect rate trend to moderate from here to keep pace with loss trends. We want this business to grow, but only where we believe there's a high likelihood of profitability.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Commercial multi-peril had another strong quarter, up 65% over last year to $138 million. Now following casualty as our second largest line on a gross basis and second largest on a net written basis behind homeowners. Retention increased to 37%, impacted by a reinsurance structure change. We expect retention to return to more historic levels in the low twenties for the year. Casualty was our fastest-growing line again this quarter, with gross written premium up sharply to $180 million. Now our largest line on a gross basis, though third on a net basis. That growth continues to be led by one of our longest-tenured partners, a program with a multi-decade track record, which is exactly the kind of program we want to drive growth, one we know well.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

As we said last quarter, we're starting to lean into higher retention in casualty, and this quarter's uptick reflects both a new excess program and a reinsurance change with an existing partner. We expect retention to settle back into the mid-teens from here. We achieved this growth in a competitive market because we believe we've built the program carrier of choice in the MGA space. We now have more than 50 programs, double what we had in the first quarter of last year. Most of that growth is coming from existing partners expanding with us, not just new logos. Our longest-tenured partner has been with Hippo for over a decade.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

We keep investing in the platform, capacity, and technology to support that partner program growth, such as fully automated monthly data ingestion process, shortening the bordereau integration from new programs by 90%, and reflecting back real-time insights to programs. We have continuously been focused on improving our underwriting, and over the last several years, that has included over 200 rate filings and over a 100% aggregate rate increase to HHIP. To support our program underwriting, we now have two program managers overseeing every program and three on our fastest-growing casualty programs. All of this work shows up in our underwriting results. Core accident year ex-CAT loss ratio came in at 45.8%, an improvement over last year and among our strongest quarter results in recent years, and nearly 17 points improvement from Q2 2024.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

This quarter, we evolved our reinsurance structure in ways we think are significant, both for our partners and for Hippo's own risk appetite, something we've been signaling to investors for some time. We renewed our CAT bond on attractive terms and added wildfire as a named peril. More importantly, we moved to buying catastrophic reinsurance at the corporate group level rather than program by program, which lowered our PMLs by more than 30% across the return periods that matter most to earnings volatility. We also introduced our first whole account quota share across the portfolio, giving us more optionality as we build a track record managing risks at the enterprise level. Put simply, this reduces our volatility, improves our economics, and gives our partners more room to grow. Those goals reinforce each other. Scale and expense discipline are doing what we said it would.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Our net expense ratio came in at 45.4%, down nearly 26 points from where we started 2024. As operating leverage continues to build, during that same period, our fixed expense ratio dropped by 39 points to 29%. AI continues to move from experiment to infrastructure across our business. Hannah, our AI service agent, and Clara, our AI First Notice of Loss agent, are both live this quarter, and together they're a big part of why we can grow the top line without growing overhead at the same pace. We've also rolled out Devin, Cognition's AI software engineer across our tech organization, nearly a third of our roughly 500 employees. Tech is core to Hippo's value proposition, and this is about making our best people even better at building it. Our tech-native roots also show up in how fast we move.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Our full integration with Westwood and our accelerated launch with Progressive are both proof points. We believe both have plenty of runway left. We'll keep investing here because we believe a unique and targeted distribution model is an opportunity to further differentiate our business. Given everything this quarter, I want to remind everybody what we told investors at last June's Investor Day: that by 2028 we'd reach at least $2 billion of gross written premium, a 22% CAGR through organic growth, new programs, scaling our builder channel, and relaunching homeowners outside of builders. How are we doing against that? Over the last year, we've simultaneously added 14 new programs, completed our Westwood integration, now quoting more than 50 builders, and launched our Progressive partnership, accelerating homeowners' growth outside the builder channel.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Additionally, this quarter, we significantly advanced our business partnerships, which now brings our expected 2027 premium above $2 billion, hitting our prior 2028 goal a year early. That's real progress against all four drivers we laid out. Given that momentum, we're raising the bar. Gross written premium to more than $2.5 billion, a 25% increase over our prior target, representing a 32% compounded annual growth rate and adjusted net income of more than $140 million in 2028, doubling our current year, 2026, guidance. I'm proud of this quarter and even more excited about where Hippo is heading. We're executing with discipline against our long-term goals, and the progress we're seeing gives me real confidence in what's ahead. I'll turn it over to our CFO, Guy Zeltser, to walk through the numbers in detail, and then we'll take your questions. Guy?

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Thanks, Rick, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, we once again delivered strong top-line premium growth, improved underwriting, and increased profitability. Q2 gross written premium grew 61% year-over-year to $482 million, up from $299 million in Q2 of last year. Growth in the second quarter was achieved across all our lines of business, with especially strong performance in casualty and commercial multi-peril lines and more modest expansion in renters and homeowners. I will now highlight a few additional details of how diversified our gross written premium has become. Homeowners grew slightly to $107 million and accounted for 22% of the total gross written premium, down from 33% in Q2 of last year. Commercial multi-peril generated $138 million, accounted for 29% of total gross written premium, up from 28% last year. Casualty generated $180 million, representing 37% of total gross written premium, up from 22% last year.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Net written premium in Q2 grew 71% year-over-year to $183 million, slightly ahead of the extension of gross written premium, driven by a program-specific reinsurance change, accounted for $27 million of net written premium this quarter. Consequently, our retention rate in the quarter was 38% compared to 36% last year and is slightly ahead of our full-year guide. In general, we view retention levels on a full-year basis, as timing of program renewal can lead to quarterly variances in that metric. From a mix perspective, homeowners generated $76 million of net written premium in the quarter, representing 42% of total net written premium, down from 59% last year. Commercial multi-peril generated $51 million and accounted for 28% of total net written premium, up from 24% last year. The aforementioned program reinsurance change this quarter drove $21 million of net written premium in this line.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

For the full year, we would expect retention levels to be in the low 20s. Casualty generated $35 million compared to roughly $2 million in Q2 of last year. As we previously indicated, the increase in casualty retention was intentional and driven mostly by the long-tenured program Rick mentioned earlier. However, the 20% retention rate this quarter was also bolstered by the aforementioned program reinsurance change. For the full year, we expect the casualty retention level to be in the mid-teens. Revenue in the second quarter was $145 million, up 23% over Q2 of last year. We expect revenue year-over-year growth to accelerate in the second half of the year as the net written premium growth in the quarter is going to earn in. In Q2, our net combined ratio improved four percentage points to 95.8% compared to Q2 of last year.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

This was achieved by improvement in expense ratio and accident year loss ratio, slightly offset by a lower prior accident year reserve benefit in Q2 versus Q2 of last year. Our Q2 net loss ratio increased three percentage points year-over-year to 50.4%. Accident year x CAT loss ratio improved to 45.8% from 46.4% last year, reflecting our continued focus on underwriting profitability. Generally, we view accident year x CAT loss ratios in the mid-40s as excellent results. CAT loss ratio improved one percentage point to 6.7%, as Q2 this year and last year both experienced relatively light CAT losses. Prior accident year reserve development was 2% in the second quarter compared to roughly 7% in Q2 of last year. In Q2, net expense ratio improved eight percentage points year-over-year to 45.4%.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

As Rick mentioned previously, we believe that our continued focus on operating leverage through AI enables us to grow our business while keeping fixed expense largely flat, which in turn has helped driving the expense ratio improvement. Q2 net income came in as $10 million, or $0.38 per diluted share, a $9 million improvement year-over-year. The year-over-year improvement was primarily due to the continued improvement of underwriting results and strong premium growth. Q2 adjusted net income grew 24% year-over-year to $21 million, or $0.79 per diluted share. Total Hippo stockholders' equity at the end of the quarter was up 4% to $466 million from $449 million as last quarter and up 40% from the $333 million at Q2 of last year.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Total book value per share at the end of the quarter was up 2% to $17.65 per share from $17.23 per share at last quarter and up 36% from $13.02 per share at Q2 of last year. Following this quarter's results, we are raising our full year guidance. We're increasing gross written premium from a range of $1.45 billion-$1.525 billion to a range of $1.65 billion-$1.7 billion. We are increasing net written premium from a range of $520 million-$550 million to a range of $565 million-$580 million. We're increasing revenue from a range of $560 million-$570 million to a range of $580 million-$585 million. We are lowering our net combined ratio from a range of 103%-105%, inclusive of a 13% cat loss ratio, to a range of 99%-101%, inclusive of a 10% cat loss ratio.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Finally, we're increasing adjusted net income from a range of $48 million-$56 million to a range of $62 million-$70 million, while maintaining the expected impact from stock-based compensation and depreciation and amortization to roughly $42 million. With that, operator, I would now like to open the floor to questions.

[Operator]

We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Randy Binner with Texas Capital. Randy, your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Randy Binner, Analyst at Texas Capital]

Hey, good morning. Hopefully, you're hearing me okay. I had a tough connection there. I have a question about just the business mix going forward. It was a good result this quarter, but the casualty lines in particular were a lot of the premiums. Is this a function you went through retention and growth opportunities and programs, but should we think of Hippo as being more like a third or less homeowners longer term? I think a lot of people have thought of it as more of a home insurer. Obviously, you've had a lot of success with the programs, but just trying to understand, looking out in the future, what the business mix is of this kind of multi-line carrier.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Good morning, Randy. This is Rick. We can hear you loud and clear, so appreciate the question. I think the way everybody should really consider and think about Hippo is it's our objective to build a very diversified portfolio that allows us to optimize mix based on a market cycle and market segment. For us, as an example, we talked about the E&S market is softer right now, so we can toggle that back while we're growing the admitted market. Homeowners' business is looking favorable, so we're growing that with our Westwood and Progressive partnerships on the admitted basis line. For us to get to a fully diversified portfolio where we have a blended and balanced book, we want to make sure that our commercial multi-peril, our casualty lines, gets up to a point where it does create optimal balance for our homeowners line.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

We still emphasize the quality of Hippo's home insurance program. We continue to grow that program. We will continue to grow that program. We want to make sure the portfolio stays in balance over time. The more we grow homeowners, the more we're going to want to grow casualty to create that balance that I mentioned before. From an optimal mix perspective, it's very important for us to make sure that we are driving against favorable trends and favorable product lines and favorable market cycles and, again, toggling back when the market cycle might be distressed.

[Randy Binner, Analyst at Texas Capital]

Okay, understood. Then just a couple quick follow-ups. The E&S reference, the market being softer, that is in homeowners? You're seeing softer E&S?

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Correct. Yes, correct.

[Randy Binner, Analyst at Texas Capital]

Or-

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Yeah.

[Randy Binner, Analyst at Texas Capital]

Okay. That makes sense. Then I guess just for the casualty lines' growth, I think a common reaction is that that's kind of growing in a softer area of the market; of course, you have a lot of control to your program. Just maybe just a little more granularity on kind of the partnerships, the market opportunities, and writing those programs and kind of seeing outsized casualty growth and what's broadly is seen as a softer casualty market.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Yes, Randy, happy to talk about that. I think one thing that is really important to recognize is most of our casualty growth is concentrated in existing, known, long-tenured programs to us. This is not us going out and chasing new opportunities, chasing rate, chasing growth. If you look at CMP as an example, we tie that back to we are fast becoming the program carrier of choice. We have 50 programs in that space. We know these programs well. These programs are growing with us. We reviewed, in the last 12 to 18 months, approximately 200 programs and selected a relatively small percentage of those as somebody that we want to partner with on a go-forward basis.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

From our perspective, it comes through a combination of organic growth with existing long-tenured partners for lack of a better term, cherry-picking new programs that we believe are very well operated and ones that, again, help us get to that diversified ballast that I was talking about.

[Randy Binner, Analyst at Texas Capital]

All right. Thanks for the responses. Appreciate it.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Thanks, Randy.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Tommy McJoynt with KBW. Tommy, your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Tommy McJoynt, Director at KBW]

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. To start off, can you talk a little more about the partnership with Accelerant that you announced in June? I guess the important question that we want to ask is thinking about premiums that are coming through that channel with Accelerant and the economics or the bottom line impact of those premiums. How do they compare with non-Accelerant revenues that are coming through? Just want to understand the difference as we think about modeling those premiums. Thanks.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Yeah. Tommy, this is Rick. Happy to start, and then Guy can jump in with any other detailed questions. I think first and foremost, the way we view the Accelerant program is a way for us to grow the premium with a partner that has access to a large number of MGA programs. I think we've published that we believe and expect this to be in excess of $500 million next year, but I also think there's more opportunity in that particular space. We do generally look at each program in great detail before we agree to be the carrier to support Accelerant with that particular program. Again, I'd really like to emphasize today, our growth comes with thoughtful quality, not just growth at all costs. Accelerant gives us an opportunity to look at those programs and then take those programs on and then continue to grow it.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

We, of course, have our own sourcing of business in the program space outside of Accelerant. In those, we generally look for things, as I mentioned before with Randy's question, operators that have a long track record, high quality, ones that have been in business for quite some time, or at least have the expertise in the particular product line space. Then we also go out and hire internally to Hippo experts in both underwriting and claims handling in that particular segment. We are an additional backstop or an additional vet on the quality of business that comes in, both on a per-risk basis, on a claims-handling basis, and in the aggregate. This is the way we look at Accelerant for the most part. I think Accelerant continues to grow; therefore, they need lots of capacity.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

We're proud to be one of their capacity providers, and it allows us to get views of programs that maybe we normally would not have been able to take a look at.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Tommy, this is Guy. Just wanted to also comment on the economics. This is a fairly standard transaction. When you model the business going forward, in the commission income side specifically, it's very standard to other deals that we're doing. It should be viewed as a scale-up in line with ceded earned premium.

[Tommy McJoynt, Director at KBW]

Okay. Got it. That all makes sense. Then switching over, a question on the property books across homeowners and the commercial side as well. We hear from a lot of competitors that competition in the space is intensifying. You are seeing some rate deceleration there. Some of that, frankly, reflects the lower cost of reinsurance, and you guys reported that as well. If you just talk about the competitive environment and where you see margins heading in the various property books of business that you have.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Tommy, I think this is one of the real benefits of our platform, because we do ride across multiple product lines and multiple barrels. We're not in the business of chasing risk and chasing growth in a softening market. I agree with your sentiment that the homeowners market is absolutely softening right now, which is one of the reasons why you're seeing an uptick on the commercial and casualty sides of our business. We do believe we have so much room to grow in the property space, both in our own homeowners program and some of the MGAs that we support, that we think that our growth won't slow into the soft market again because we're relatively small compared to the industry in that particular space.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

However, what we will commit to is that if we find ourselves in a position where we do not believe that growth in any particular product line will be accretive to our bottom line and to our combined ratio, we won't grow in that space. That's, again, the force of what we've built here, is those levers for us to pull across cycle, across product line, and across programs and both owned and non-owned business.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Tommy, this is Guy again. I just wanted to also add two points on top of what Rick just mentioned. On the homeowner side, one of the reasons why we love the partnership with Progressive is that it gives us access to a lot of lead generation, a lot of flow. We are right now live with Progressive at eight states, but we do plan to triple the state footprint by the end of this year. That is giving us even more volume. The influx of volume allows us to still be very disciplined and only buying businesses we feel very good about from a profitability perspective. The second thing: you also asked about property within the CMP line. We also see the same trend.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Even though the CMP is growing, we do see with commercial property, specifically, some softening, which is why we are pulling back, which is why the growth that you are seeing is actually coming from other lines. It is the same thing that Rick has mentioned, where we are seeing softness. We have no problem of pulling back. The most important thing, again, is to be disciplined across each and every line.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Tommy, one thing I will add to what Guy had just mentioned is the growth that we are experiencing in Progressive; we only expose a rate to Progressive customers for particular business that we want to write, both from a geographical basis, but also from an inherent underlying per-policy basis. We do not expose a price or a Hippo quote on any customer of Progressive's that does not fit into our desired footprint and our desired underwriting box.

[Tommy McJoynt, Director at KBW]

Thank you.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Thanks, Tommy.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Andersen with Jefferies. Andrew, your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Sid Schultz, Analyst at Jefferies]

Hey, good morning. This is Sid on for Andrew. Curious if you could expand on why now is the right time to add the whole account quota share and what economics made the transaction attractive. I know you touched on casualty and CMP, but should we expect any change in the retention in homeowners moving forward?

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Hi, Sid. This is Rick. Thanks for the question. I'll go ahead and start with this one. The whole account quota share is more of a capability. The amount of our risk seated in our whole account's quota share is very small. What it does is it creates a capability that as we continue to grow over time, again, another lever for us to pull to put more risk to third-party reinsurers if we feel like it's the best way to stick within our risk tolerance framework. For us, it's more of a capability. I don't think it meaningfully impacts the economics of the business, certainly not at the size of business that we're placing through it, but it's a capability that we thought it was important for us to have as we experience continued growth throughout. Sid, remind me, what was your second question?

[Sid Schultz, Analyst at Jefferies]

Just curious if I know you guys had touched on casualty and CMP retention, but if we should expect any changes in the homeowners' retention moving forward?

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

That's right. Thank you, Sid. First of all, for the Hippo Home Insurance program, from an attritional loss perspective, and even at the lower levels of CAT, we, for all intents and purposes, maintain near 100% of that risk. There's really nowhere to go up with that because we're already taking most of it. For our program partners in the property space, we do participate in a sizable amount of risk. It ranges between 20% with some partner programs and up to 40% with others. We think our risk acceptance and our retention for property is right where we want it to be, so we would not expect it to increase in the foreseeable future.

[Guy Zeltser, CFO at Hippo]

Sid, this is Guy here. The only thing I would add is from a, if you just look at the homeowner's line, you can tell that we have provided the mix between the admitted and non-admitted. As Rick mentioned, because we are retaining more on the admitted side, and that's the piece that is growing faster, you should expect a bit of an uptick in the overall retention of that line. I would say not significantly above what you're seeing right now. For every intents and purpose, I think you can triangulate the almost 100% retention on the attritional side, on the admitted side of the business, and then the rest will just be a plug number.

[Sid Schultz, Analyst at Jefferies]

Okay, thanks for that. Then just as a follow-up, I'm curious to hear if you're seeing any competitive changes on fronting fees or economics as more capital enters the MGA and fronting markets, or maybe you're seeing the opposite occur.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Sid, it's a really good question. I think for the most part, we are not seeing changes in that. Despite what I think a lot of people believe, the fronting business is not a commodity business, and I think you're seeing that by the amount of deals that we are winning. We are not winning based on decreasing fronting fees or economics back to the MGA. We are winning on more capabilities we can provide to the MGA, both in the form of services, in the form of data insights, the ability to share some of the technologies that we've been building from an AI perspective. When programs are coming to a fronting carrier, they generally fall into one of two buckets. The bucket where the program will take any carrier at the lowest price or the lowest cede commission, we don't play in that game.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

The other bucket is those that say, "We want a long-term partner that has enough capital to support our growth, can retain risk, can provide other valuable services and capabilities far beyond just access to the balance sheet and to the rating. "I'll also reinforce we had a size increase last quarter. Now we're able at our AM Best A- nine, we're able to really participate in even more opportunities than we were previously. Okay, thank you.

[Operator]

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. Your next question comes from the line of Timothy D'Agostino with B. Riley Securities. Timothy, your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Timothy D'Agostino, Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities]

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking all the questions. Just one question on my end. On the 2028 growth targets on slide 14 seem to emphasize potential new lines. I was just kind of wondering, for Hippo entering new lines, is that really a 2028 idea, or could we see that in 2027? Could you just kind of remind us of the game plan when entering those new lines? Thank you.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Tim, this is Rick. I'm assuming your question is around Hippo entering new lines on a manufactured basis, so products we manufacture as opposed to products that we front for. I'll answer both questions. First of all, for products that we manufacture, I would expect us to enter into either new lines or new flavors of lines before the 2028 target. By "flavors," I mean new things that we might be doing within the personal homeowners or property space and other things that might be tangential to that particular space. We're not ready at this point to share what those are, but I think in future quarters, prior to 2028, we'll be able to share a lot more in detail. We do want to grow the own premium side and the owned product side.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

On the fronting business, we will enter new lines if we believe those lines are diversifying to the business that we already have. Just as a reminder, Hippo has lots of different carriers within its Spinnaker Insurance Company, both admitted and non-admitted. We have lots of certificates of authority, not just property and casualty, but also with accident health. There are opportunities that come to us every day, and we go through a fairly detailed analysis of every opportunity to determine, is this accretive to that diversification goal, and will that individual program positively impact the bottom line of the business? Although I can't give you specifics of what those might be at this point, I can tell you that we are looking at other opportunities that meet those strategic goals of ours.

[Timothy D'Agostino, Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities]

Great. Thank you so much.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Thanks, Tim.

[Operator]

We have reached the end of the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to management for closing remarks.

[Rick McCathron, President and CEO at Hippo]

Well, I appreciate all of you joining us this morning. We're excited about the quarter that we've had and even more so about the future. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Thank you, everyone.

[Operator]

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Charles Sebaski, Head of Investor Relations
• Rick McCathron, President and CEO
• Guy Zeltser, CFO

Analysts

• Randy Binner, Analyst at Texas Capital
• Tommy McJoynt, Director at KBW
• Sid Schultz, Analyst at Jefferies
• Timothy D'Agostino, Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities