Strawberry Fields REIT Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Strawberry Fields collected 100% of contractual rents in Q2, with tenant EBITDA rent coverage of 2.17x and a portfolio average remaining lease term of 6.9 years.
  • Positive Sentiment: Year-to-date revenue rose 6.4% to $80 million, while net income increased to $18.4 million, or $0.33 per share. Management cited projected 2026 AFFO growth of 11% and AFFO-per-share growth of 10.1%.
  • Positive Sentiment: The company secured a new credit facility with up to $300 million of capacity, including a $200 million revolver, to refinance existing debt and support acquisitions. Management also expects to close a $10.4 million Missouri hospital campus acquisition in Q3, adding $1.04 million of annual base rent with 3% escalators.
  • Positive Sentiment: Management said the acquisition pipeline exceeds $225 million and expects to close roughly $100 million to $150 million of deals by year-end, including transactions that could add new states and expand master leases.
  • Negative Sentiment: Executives characterized 2026 as a relatively quiet, non-growth year because several transactions were delayed or fell apart, with most new acquisitions expected late in Q4 and having limited impact on current-year AFFO. Higher depreciation, G&A, and approximately $800,000 of one-time loan closing costs also pressured results, while net debt to adjusted EBITDA remained elevated at 5.7x.
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Strawberry Fields REIT Q2 2026
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Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Strawberry Fields REIT Q2 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jeff Bajtner, Chief Investment Officer.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

Thank you and welcome to Strawberry Fields REIT's Q2 2026 earnings call. I am the Chief Investment Officer, and joining me today on the call are Moishe Gubin, our Chairman and CEO, and Greg Flamion, our CFO. Yesterday evening, the company issued its Q2 2026 earnings results, which are available on the company's investor relations website. Participants should be aware that this call is being recorded, listeners are advised that any forward-looking statements made on today's call are based on management's current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs about Strawberry Fields REIT's business and the environment in which it operates. These statements may include projections regarding future financial performance, dividends, acquisitions, investments, returns, financings, and may or may not reference other matters affecting the company's business or the businesses of its tenants, including factors that are beyond its control. Additionally, references will be made during this call to non-GAAP financial results.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

Investors are encouraged to review these non-GAAP financial measures, as well as the explanation and reconciliation of these measures to the comparable GAAP results included on the non-GAAP measure reconciliation pages at the back of our investor presentation. Now, on to discussing Strawberry Fields REIT and our Q2 2026 performance. I wanted to start by sharing some key highlights for the quarter. During the quarter, the company collected 100% of its contractual rents. On June 18th, the company closed on its Corporate Credit Facility with availability up to $300 million. The credit facility is comprised of a $100 million term loan and a $200 million revolving line of credit, both having initial three-year terms and two one-year extension options. Proceeds from the credit facility were used to refinance existing secured bank debt, the remainder will be available to support acquisition growth.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

The rate on the credit facility is SOFR+275. On April 21st, the company entered into a contract for the acquisition of a hospital campus comprised of a licensed 60-bed hospital, licensed 99-bed skilled nursing facility, and ancillary medical office buildings near Kansas City, Missouri. The purchase price will be $10.4 million, the company expects to fund the acquisition from the balance sheet. The hospital campus will be added to an existing master lease of a tenant in Missouri with annual base rents of $1.04 million and subject to 3% annual rent increases. The company expects to close on this acquisition during Q3. Deal-wise, we have been very busy looking at deals in existing and new states.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

After a little bit of a lull, beginning with the above-mentioned hospital, it seems that deals are starting to make sense again, and we are hopeful that Q4 is going to be a busy quarter closing some of these deals. Yesterday, the board of directors approved the Q3 2026 dividend, which will be $0.17 a share. The dividend will be paid on September 30th to shareholders of record on September 16th. I would now like to have Greg Flamion, our Chief Financial Officer, discuss the quarter-end financials.

Greg Flamion
Greg Flamion
CFO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Thank you, Jeff, and welcome everyone to the Strawberry Fields second quarter earnings call. Let's begin with a look at our balance sheet. Total assets are $878.5 million, an increase of $18.8 million or 2.1% compared to June 30th, 2025. The year-over-year decline in assets is driven by an elevated cash balances at the end of the second quarter of 2025. These funds were used to acquire property later in that fiscal year. On the liability side, higher debt balances were driven by financing associated with our acquisitions, together with foreign currency translation effects. Equity was lower year-over-year, primarily due to the decline in accumulated other comprehensive income related to foreign currency translation adjustments. Continuing now with the consolidated statement of income for the six-month ended July 2026. 2026 revenue was $80 million, up $4.8 million compared to June 30th, 2025.

Greg Flamion
Greg Flamion
CFO at Strawberry Fields REIT

This represents a 6.4% increase, which was driven by the timing and integration of properties acquired in 2025. While we experienced higher revenues, the income growth was offset by higher depreciation, which was driven by the new property acquisitions. General and administrative expenses were also higher due to higher closing costs, corporate salaries, and other operating expenses. These increases were offset by lower amortization. The results in a year-to-date income of $18.4 million, or $0.33 a share, compared to $15.7 million or $0.29 a share for the six-month ended Q2 2025. Going to the next slide, we're now going to look at a quarterly income statement comparison of Q2 2026 to Q2 2025. The second quarter revenues were $40 million, which is $2.2 million higher than Q2 2025. Expenses were mostly in line, however, quarterly increases were driven by higher G&A expenses.

Greg Flamion
Greg Flamion
CFO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Q2 net income was $8.9 million, which is marginally higher than the net income for the prior year quarter. I'd like to end my presentation with some financial highlights. Our 2026 AFFO is $73.9 million, representing an 11% compound annual growth rate. The 2026 projected AFFO per share growth is 10.1%. The 2026 adjusted EBITDA is $135.7 million, representing a 15% compound annual growth rate. Our yield on leases is 14.4%. The company's net debt to net asset ratio currently sits at 49.8%, and as of June 30th, 2026, our dividend is $0.70 a share, representing a 4.9% yield and an AFFO payout of 50.6%. This concludes the financial portion of the earnings call presentation. I'll now turn it back over to Jeff Bajtner, who will walk us through additional portfolio highlights.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

Thank you, Greg. Looking at the portfolio highlights, currently our portfolio has 142 facilities located in 10 states. In these facilities, we have 15,496 licensed beds. The total property value of our portfolio is in excess of $1.4 billion. This amount is calculated by taking our annualized base rents of $143 million and multiplying it by a conservative cap rate of 10%. With the current healthcare real estate market being very strong and looking at comps, we believe that our portfolio should be valued at a lower cap rate than a 10%. Included in our most recent investor deck that we filed yesterday, and is on the company's website, there is a sensitivity table at the back showing that as the cap rates go down, the values go up. Currently, our portfolio has 16 consultants advising operators. The remaining average lease term of the portfolio is 6.9 years.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

We are pleased to report that our tenants continue to do well, and the EBITDA on rent coverage for May 31st is 2.17. The net debt to adjusted EBITDA is 5.7. We've continued to collect 100% of our rents. As a final point, as I mentioned earlier, our pipeline remains strong, and we're seeing deals in existing states and new states. Currently, we're looking at deals in excess of $225 million. With that, I'd like to hand it over to Moishe Gubin, our Chairman and CEO, to continue the presentation.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

All right. Thank you, Jeff. As Jeff and Greg already alluded to, we had a pretty quiet quarter. The slides I'm going to go through are just giving you basically the graphs and a couple of other pieces of information. The first slide shows you our AFFO growth for the last five years, or five and a half years. Again, it's an 11% growth rate. Beautiful, from $44 million to almost $74 million. Again, this will change. Hopefully, we'll end the year hitting our targets, just hitting the targets towards the end of the year instead of the beginning of the year, which is what we wanted. Unfortunately, it's just how it goes, this year's a quieter year. Like Jeff said, we're collecting all our rent still and bringing in the money, and we're making a good living. That's this slide.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

On the next slide, we talk about the portfolio growth. We've changed this slide to try to show a straight line at a 10 cap to try to show what the values are. You see we're sitting at-- the other slide of how we had this previously was just showing you historical cost. Now this is showing you basically market value or 10 cap value on our rents that we're collecting. These are lease fee appraisals, so about a 13% growth rate here from 2021, having a value of about $777 million to now $1425 million. The next slide just talks about our stock price over the last 12 months. Seems to be this quarter we ended off good. Currently, our stock price is performing better than this, which is good. As things continue, we expect to get closer to our peers as far as valuation.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

On our next slide, we talk about our valuation gap, which we're hoping to continue to close in on and catch up to our peers. We're still trading at a 40% discount to our peer average AFFO multiple, at 10.5. We feel that we should be able to catch up, hopefully sooner than later. We're pushing, having good results quarter in, quarter out, dividend that's reliable, going to all these conferences, meeting a lot of people. Again, we're sticking with the fact that we're the most SNF-focused portfolio, with almost 92% of our portfolio being nursing homes. We have a very quick, very fast AFFO share growth, which is beating all of our peers at around 11%. We have the lowest dividend payout ratio at right around 50%. We feel all these things should catch up, and we'll be more in line, hopefully sooner than later.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

On the next slide, you just look at our market performance over the last year. Our stock actually has held its own, and we're proud of that. We expect for it to continue on the rise. Right now, we're still collecting 100% of our rents, which Jeff said earlier. Our metrics are all good. Slow growth year, hopefully it doesn't affect us to the marketplace. Actually, I'm a little embarrassed by it, even though I keep bringing it up on this call. That being said, we expect things to just continue what we're doing, and hopefully the stock will vindicate us and show us in a good light. On the next slide. Again, we talked about the Seretti. This is how big of a difference we have. We're at 91.5% in SNFs, and these are our true peers.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Now the largest one is 63%, and the smallest one is 36%. I think it's good for us because somebody who recognizes the value of the baby boomers and the value of the need for SNF care in America and how you can rely on the return, it's not erratic. It's not based on performance of the operations. They pay us our rent, which is absolute. With that, I think in the long run, the shareholders or the marketplace should flock to us knowing full well that we're going to continue to have a slow and steady return that you can rely on. On the next slide, peer comparison, again, just to show how we compare. Again, 50% payout ratio, you have the largest is distributing 87% of their cash.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

That means for every time they want to buy stuff, they have to sell more equity, which dilutes the shareholders and their share of the profits, That's a hard way to go. In our case, everything we're doing is accretive, even though we do sell stock in the ATM or we continue to extend our shareholder base, we're still mainly using cash from our balance sheet to grow, We're able to add debt to stay at a 50% leverage ratio for us to be able to meet what our payout ratio continues to be. On the other slide to the right of that is our growth rate. Again, it's just basically because of that simple math.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Since we're using our own cash and we're not selling more equity to be able to grow the portfolio, that makes it that we have AFFO share growth because each share is earning more and more money every year, as opposed to earning more money as a group, but having more shares to share it with. That's the math, and we're proud of that. On the next slide, we just reiterate the total return. When you take the growth of the AFFO per share over the last, if you include 2026 whole year as a projection, it's a 10% growth rate. You take that together with the 5% dividend yield, you're at a 16% total return. The math is really, really simple. You could see it in the chart here, $74 million of AFFO. We paid half of it.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

The remaining amount of money, we take that, we buy more assets, and that gives us the return. The next slide just talks about our debt structure. This ended up being the year of the debt restructure because we're spending all of our time. Even though we're looking at deals, it's been a weird year as far as how the deals come. They came, they went, they came, they went. We have deals that we contract with. They broke the contract, then we get back into contract. We never had a year like this where we had that kind of erratic nature, and it's just random. You can't read into it to say, "Well, something changed in the marketplace." It's just the way this year played out. We'll still hit our bogey as far as closing between $100 million and $150 million of deals.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Just that instead of being at the beginning of the year and reflecting in our numbers for the year, it's going to end up being towards the end of the year, so next year will be a solid year. This year is also a solid year, just not a growth year from that point of view. We spent a lot of time on debt. Like Jeff and Greg mentioned earlier in the year, we refinanced, subsequent to quarter end, we've actually paid off one of our bonds. We used cash from the balance sheet. We raised a little bit of money in May. Now we have in our line of credit, which has $140 million of availability on it right now. We still have some debt maturing in September.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We're going to take a road trip to Israel. By the time we get back from Israel or shortly thereafter, somehow we'll have the bonds paid off. Without adding to our debt load as far as 50% leverage. We're right about 50% or a little bit below 50%, so we should be able to get everything done. Then we don't have to worry about any bond or any real financing that's maturing for a bit. This slide is actually real nice. I like it. I look forward till third quarters when we change this slide around. It's actually going to be nice and smooth across a few years. This slide is pretty self-explanatory. The blended interest rate below 6%, 20-year-plus HUD debt maturity, below 50% leverage, like we said, and 5.7x net debt to EBITDA.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

The corporate bonds, like I said, we paid off Bond C. We now have A and D that are going to get paid off in third quarter. We redid our line of credit, which we talked about. That bank debt basically turns into one loan. That's a five-year loan. It was really a three-year with two one-year renewals. We still basically have one regular conventional loan at, like, 6% at a small bank in Tennessee. God bless them. On the next slide, we talk about the diversity of our portfolio. That hasn't really changed from last quarter. You see also the base rent by related consultants. Again, we're pretty diversified. We don't really have too much exposure or concentration in any one place except for Indiana, which is our best state, so that's positive.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We expect, before the year's out, to add at least one more state, hopefully, to our mix. One of the deals that's hopefully going to close third or fourth quarter is a pretty sizable deal in a new state, which is good. On the next slide, this is the Rich Anderson slide, which he's the only reason for this slide to be in this presentation. God bless him. The occupancy for the facilities, right around 77%, which is high. Again, it doesn't really matter to me. Our tenants, we look at their financials, and they're an efficiency business, so sometimes a lower occupancy will make them more money than a higher occupancy. It's contribution margins, if any of you remember from accounting school. That being said, it's a metric worth telling to folks. Average facility size of 108, and they're running 83 out of 108.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Like most facilities in America, majority of the facility is being paid for by Medicaid, then everything else is between Medicare, private pay insurance, and hospice care, which usually falls under Medicaid or private as well. On the next slide, just shows you our map. That hasn't changed from quarter to quarter. I'm happy when we add the new state. It won't fill in the middle, but it'll grow our perimeter of the current operators. Again, pure play, we talked about it. Less than 92% of our portfolio is nursing homes. Again, we've maintained exactly the way we buy things, year in, year out. That hasn't changed. Most of you that are listening to this call probably already know it. We buy everything to a 10 cap. Once we do that 10 cap, it's a 10-year lease with two five-year renewals.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

3% annual increases for most of our portfolio. Again, we have a projected ROE of 12%. What that's basically considering keeping 50% leverage, then paying interest on the other half and earning a 10 cap, so it gives us a little bit more yield. We love the master lease structure, we continue to buy. I think right now we're buying hopefully something in Tennessee that's going to add to a master lease. Buying something in Missouri that's going to add to a master lease. Then a new deal, which is multiple facilities under a master lease. That's how we've done it historically, that's how we continue to do it. Most likely that's how we're going to do it going forward as well. With that ends my comments and my remarks on this presentation. Thank you all for joining us.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We will now turn it over to the operator for any questions and answers anyone has, and we'll be glad to provide.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Richard Anderson with Cantor Fitzgerald. You may proceed.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Hey, thanks. I'm honored to have my own slide, so thank you for that. When you think about You look like you're projecting AFFO of $1.33 for this year. To what degree does that take into account any activity that you might close for the back half of this year, if at all? Is it because it'd be closing so late that it probably doesn't have much of an impact on the numbers?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Typically, I would answer this question. How about Jeff? Why don't you try to answer this question?

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

The $1.33 is annualizing our current FFO for the year, AFFO for the year. The acquisition in Missouri that we're going to be closing, hopefully during this quarter, should move it up incrementally. Realistically, these new deals that we're looking at are going to be towards later in Q4, I don't expect it to have the biggest effect on our AFFO per share.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I think, Rich-

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

Okay

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

If you're modeling out, or any of the other analysts that are modeling out, you should be modeling out for probably an AFFO of an additional $12 million or so. Maybe a $155 million-$160 million for next year. Maybe a little higher than that. Jeff, that make sense to you? Greg? Yeah.

Greg Flamion
Greg Flamion
CFO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Somewhere between $155 million and $160 million.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

I think if everything we're working on were to come to fruition and work out, yes, that would make sense.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Well, $155 million, $160 million would be top line, and the bottom line would be from $74.5 million or so to probably closer to $80 million, $82 million or something like that. $81 million, $82 million.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Okay. There's a little potential life to that $1.33 based on whatever might happen back half of this year.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah. It's a drop.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Yeah, okay.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

It's unfortunate the way this year has played out has been I've never seen it in my, I'm doing this now for 20. I started in 1998. I never saw a year where I blame all the good on God, so when something's like this, where it's a little bit wonky, we blame that on God too. That somehow, for whatever reason, just made it that a deal happens, and then a deal doesn't happen, and same deal goes back 3x to 4x. Now we think we're locked and loaded, hopefully, finally. A couple other deals got signed up since then. Just a strange year. I don't know, for no real reason.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Okay. All right, second question from me. The KC deal that is going to close in the third quarter has a hospital element to it. I think we kind of talked about this last quarter, but how open are you to sort of opportunities like that that are largely SNF but have some other stuff associated with them? Is that something that you feel adds to the risk profile of the investment? Any kind of color you can provide around investment opportunities that have a little bit more of a diversified component to them.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

The starting point is, for every deal we look at, there has to be a reasonable sense on who's going to manage the asset, who's going to be our operator, if they have the financial wherewithal to make sure that our rent is bulletproof, that we're going to get paid. This deal specifically is almost a perfect deal for this operator. They own a physician practice already. They are a master lessee of ours, and so this fits right into their geography where they are. Their operational experience fits perfectly in running a hospital with the physician practices that they already have. This worked. I would say going forward, and it's been like that in the past, we're open-minded. We typically have only really bought nursing homes and anything connected to nursing homes.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We do now have people in our world that are assisted living operators, and if a deal would come in that's a CCRC, like we did in Maryville.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Kingsport.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Huh?

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Kingsport.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Kingsport, Maryville, those are the same deal for me, even though two different places. We have relationships with now other people that we are looking at CCRC stuff where we can either separate out the two sides with two different guys and make sure that the two operators have an agreement between them, that they play nicely in the sandbox. In one deal, I act as an HOA president between the two sides of the property, where I got two different people that are operating two different, one's running a hospital and one's running a nursing home. I play referee if those two can't get along. I'm HOA president, if you can imagine. That's just what I need in my life. It makes the deal work, and the two sides deal nicely with each other, and so far, so good. Look, we're open-minded.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

It comes down to fitting our box. Asset-wise, these things all fit in our box. It's all healthcare, and it's all real estate. The one reason I try to avoid that stuff as buying it by itself is because historically, we tell the marketplace that if, God forbid, something went wrong in our portfolio, I'm going to be the guy hopping on a plane, and I'm going to go there to stabilize it, make sure we don't have a major loss. I'll be the one sitting there operating until I'm able to stabilize it and turn it to the next operator. I personally don't know how to run a hospital. I wouldn't be able to make that same representation to the marketplace.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Right now, we go to investor meetings, and we tell people, "Look, we have such a good bulletproof income stream." On top of all that is that, God forbid something goes wrong, I could go there and fix it. I could deal with it. I still have the operational experience. I have partnerships where I could get people to help that are part of our world. I'm not part of that world today, but I'm still an owner that I could ask people to pitch in and help me out, and I could send nurses across the country, and I could do stuff. That's been the reason why we kind of shied away from it. A deal like this, perfect deal for our current tenant that we have. Very easy to add to the master lease.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I think we're closing next week, it's just a good deal. If there's more of these that fit in Missouri, certainly this same tenant would take it and absorb it. That's the story there.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Okay. I just wanted to ask back half of this year, Jeff, what's the most that could be completed in that pipeline that you mentioned? You associated $12 million of FFO to it, what is that number? Is it $50 million, less, more?

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

Every week, Moishe and I, and Greg, we go over our pipeline, and we've always, I think Moishe has spoken about this in past earnings calls where we say we've got high, medium, and low, the likelihood that they could work out, the deal will close. Recently, we were in one of our meetings, I actually said, this is the first time that our pipeline is filled with deals that a majority of it is medium to high. There's a very good likelihood, and we were talking about it earlier. I think realistically, we could have about $130 million of real estate, at least close towards year-end, then there's other deals that we're still looking at that could potentially close.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Okay.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

We've still got-

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Awesome. Thank you very much.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

four and a half months till year-end. We're going to keep on working towards it.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Thanks very much, everyone.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Have a good weekend, Rich. Thank you for joining.

Richard Anderson
Richard Anderson
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Yep.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Smith with Lake Street. You may proceed.

Mark Smith
Mark Smith
Analyst at Lake Street

Hi, guys. First off-

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Hey, Mark.

Mark Smith
Mark Smith
Analyst at Lake Street

Just wanted to ask a little bit about SG&A. I don't know if you guys can quantify maybe how much of the SG&A step-up was one time in nature versus a new hire run rate.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

It's not new hire. We have right now, we're fully staffed. When we do this next deal, we're probably going to have to hire an asset manager, just to add one person to our team. Otherwise, we're fully staffed. I'm going to let Greg answer about the SG&A because truthfully, the number that's in there that's an increase is because of me, and I don't even know what it is because I wasn't part of the conversations. I don't even know what compensation committee granted me. It's all in stock that I never see. I get it, and I don't even notice it's part of my pool of shares that I own. I don't even know how much I'm getting paid truthfully, Mark. I'll let Greg answer, and we'll go from there.

Greg Flamion
Greg Flamion
CFO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Hey, Mark. How you doing? In regard to your question, the first part about the one-time items, we had about a little less than $800,000 worth of closing costs that were associated with some of the loans we closed in G&A. That's a one-time item that I think you can disregard going forward. As for the salary, it's running about maybe $250,000-$300,000 extra a quarter. That's something that will be, I guess, continuing going forward. That kind of answers your question as to what's the one-timers versus the things that we expect, the increases that we see going forward.

Mark Smith
Mark Smith
Analyst at Lake Street

No, that's helpful. Then I just want to ask big picture if you guys have seen many changes or anything different as you look at kind of the deal pipeline. It sounds like maybe you're seeing some bigger deals come available and negotiating and looking at, curious kind of what you're seeing out there in the market.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I mean, Yeah, Jeff can answer that.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

I think it's more similar the same. It's just a matter of, as we've said in the past, there's always deals coming in day in, day out. It's very easy for us to decide on the deals that do make sense and don't make sense. For example, the deals that are one-offs on the West Coast or the East Coast, it's not something that we're really looking to go into. We've been looking to grow our master leases in existing states or in states that we know that we could continue to grow in. The deals have been coming in. There've been some bigger ones. There've been many smaller ones. If the deal is a 10 cap acquisition and we get that 125 coverage on day one, we've been putting our offers out there.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

As Moishe mentioned in his prepared remarks, it's something that it's an acquisition strategy that we've gone with until now and we plan on sticking to. To your question, the deals, we keep on putting offers out. As I said, we've actually been signing some of them up, so we're very excited to see where it leads towards year end.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

On the three deals that we're signed up for that we expect to close this year, actually it's really four deals. Without going to location and one of them goes into a master lease. Another one goes into a master lease. Another one is the biggest deal of the year right now, which would be its own master lease in a new state. We have a one-off new deal in a new state that we expect to get done. All of these deals open up for us new states and continue to grow master leases. We have deals out there now that have been worked on for outside of these three, four deals that we expect to get through before the end of the year.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We actually have a bunch of other stuff that's been constant conversation for maybe a year or two years with people that a lot of the guys that are contemporaries or students, I call them disciples in my world, people that I've helped earlier in their careers. A lot of them say, "Wow, Moishe, you did good with Strawberry. We want to do the same thing." My response back to them says, "Why would you want to do all the stuff that I did?" This was nail-biting and as anxiety-laden process in dealing what we're doing. To make friends with all you guys that are on this call took how many years? Did we bang down a door, and then we have one meeting, and then we sit down with somebody, and then this, that? I mean, it just takes forever to build.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I tell them, "Why don't you just merge yourself into me, and we'll give you a board seat. You can be part of the team." We have three things out there that's been going on for a year or two that's festering, that are three big groups, potentially. I don't know the timing of it. I would say that if I was giving you a 10-year picture, there's easily we're going to be able to go from where we are today and most likely add $4 billion worth of property at some point, absorbing friends that want to be public also, and that I'm trying to convince, and they are sitting with me on a regular basis, that you don't want to go through the process of going public yourself. We already are now known.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We have 6,000 shareholders or more, people know who we are, the stock's trading finally. The stock is up. It's still a major discount. To answer your question as far as pipeline or what kind of deals, there are some big deals that at some point are going to hit. We have some other deals that a $250 million deal, a standalone that came in in the last few weeks, that there's easily a 50/50 coin flip that that deal happens. There's some other mid-size deals. Everything else is what Jeff told you, has been the same as usual. Drips and drabs of smaller stuff, middle things. It's just what comes in, we jump on every single thing that makes sense for us.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

It's based on logistics, if it makes sense for us that we could add it to a master lease where it's big enough for us to add a state.

Mark Smith
Mark Smith
Analyst at Lake Street

Perfect. That's helpful. Thank you, guys.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Welcome. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. You may proceed.

Gaurav Mehta
Gaurav Mehta
Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

Yeah, thank you. I want to go back to your comments around the transaction market where you mentioned that you worked on some deals that didn't close. Just want to get some more color on those deals that didn't close. Did those deals go at a lower cap rate to your competitors? Why do you think those deals didn't go through?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

No, the math was still the same math. It's still the same 10 cap. We haven't made an offer below our disciplined number or how we do things. It's an interesting business. The nursing homes, when there's a change of ownership on the PropCo side, but the operator stays the same, it's peaceful. When the operator is changing to a new tenant that we're bringing in, there's potential turmoil. That period of time between a deal getting made and the change occurring, the seller is deathly afraid that his staff's going to walk out on him and the common conception, I don't know if this is in the regular corporate world also, but the common conception in a nursing home is they think if the place is getting sold, everyone thinks they're getting fired.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

They go and they go start looking for new places to work, and they bail on the nursing home. This has been the way it has been for 20 years or more that I have been involved with this. The seller is deathly afraid of the employees finding out that there is a sale. When we go there, Strawberry Fields became an appraisal firm. We are not a nursing home group that is buying nursing homes, or REIT that is buying nursing homes. We are either bankers or we are appraisers or we are some other farce so that the employees that meet us do not get smart thinking that the place is being sold.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

You put that in perspective, you got more neurotic sellers that, and rightfully so, they are worried they have a good business, they are making good money today, and they are exiting with a good multiple and they are happy to sell and they are happy with the price, and they are happy to take stock and Strawberry sometimes, but they live in fear. You have to have a good, the guy on the other end says, "Do not worry. You are giving it to me. I will do what I can. I will keep the secret safe. I will not blow the cover." And they will act a certain way. You have where the deal falls apart because somewhere in the middle, somebody finds something out, and the guy has to go tell his employees, "Look, I am not selling." This is what we deal with.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I play psychiatrist on the side with telling a seller, "It will be fine. This will work out. Okay, let us not take a tour," or, "Let us not do this," or, "Why do not you send me that and we will work around somebody finding out." I do not know if this helps the people listening, but there is such a delicate act of transitioning when you are transitioning a new operator. We sit there, and this year, for some reason, that has happened more. We had a deal in Tennessee that spent months on the deal in Tennessee, and then at the end, one person said, "No, I am not dealing with this." And we tried to make it work, and it was literally months of our life that just we are never getting back.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We had this other deal in another state, which is a deal that came back to us, went away, went back. They were difficult. Now we are marching towards a closing. Last one we had was one where we had a deal that we are buying something in a set bankruptcy deal. Some guy from out of left field started arguing that the price is wrong and that the bankruptcy court should ask us for more money or sell it to somebody else. We end up in a fight with some random guy that shows up, and we end up paying a couple million dollars more on a deal that we made with the seller long before. The seller made a little bit more money. This other guy walks away, and I end up paying more money.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

My tenant was fine paying more rent, we still got the 10 cap rent. This is like the strangest year of dealing with this stuff. This has nothing to do with pricing, valuation, cap rates, none of that. This is just wonky stuff that's just it's been a weird year. Hopefully, you have a year like this where you deal with it, you come out strong, everything is good, I'm still collecting all my rents, God said, "Okay, I gave you the curveball this year so that you're going to have a little bit of trouble in your life even though everything worked out fine." Next year will be smooth sailing, hopefully we'll continue to do that $100 million-$150 million annual growth minimum.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

The larger we get, that becomes a smaller growth, we want to then make that growth number higher. That bogey goes to $200 million at some point. All right, Gaurav. Hopefully, that answered your question.

Gaurav Mehta
Gaurav Mehta
Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

Not bad that.Thanks for that color. Second question on the balance sheet. You talked about debt maturity in third quarter, I think. Can you maybe provide some color on where you expect the cost of debt to be as you go to Israel to raise some debt?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

That's about $160 million that's sitting on our balance sheet. Again, that's priced out to the ILS. Right now, the dollar was getting stronger again, it got weaker again. That averages out at about an 8% interest rate. If the USD to ILS was better for us, we'd be better off just taking dollars in America at 6%. Right now, our cost is about 6.4% or so for our money in America. We pay off the 8% money at 6.4%, but because the currency is where it is, the better bet. That could change literally in a month. The rate could go back to 340. We have to be nimble here, but we have the Israeli market that supposedly still loves us.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

The interest rate, the last deal we did in May was 7%. Even if it's a little higher than the 6.4% in America, 7% is probably, it's all math. Whether that's 7%, we save $1, and we don't have to eat the currency cost of buying ILS with USD. We would realize the currency. Right now, we haven't realized the currency, the devaluation between the ILS and USD. We haven't really realized it. It's an OCI. It's sitting there as a recognized but not realized loss. To not take that true loss, which I can't stand, that if I did, that would kill me personally.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Most likely, our move is we end up taking ILS to pay off ILS, and then we have four years for the USD to bounce back, which we expect to occur, and that's a bunch of money in OCI that's going to turn around in our favor. Either way, we're going to get an improvement from eight to probably at least seven. One way gets rid of the interest rate risk, but you realize a loss, and one way doesn't get rid of the interest rate risk, but you don't realize a loss. That's where we're at. I'm taking my religious Gentile CFO, and we're going to take him to visit Jesus and everything in Israel for him because he's never been to Israel.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I take my religious Jewish COO, CIO, and we're going to go and shake the money maker and bring in some ILS to pay off the bond debt. Hopefully, it'll be a good trip. We're leaving on August 30th, and God willing, we succeed.

Gaurav Mehta
Gaurav Mehta
Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

All right. Thanks for those details. That's all I had.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Thank you, Gaurav.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from John Massocca with B. Riley Securities. You may proceed.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

All right.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Good afternoon. The 133 projection for AFFO in 2026, I know you talked about it a little bit earlier, but can you walk me through what exactly is kind of assumed in that number? Is that just-

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

No

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

[crosstalk]

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I misspoke. That number I was referring to was a top-line, I think, rental number. I was saying that we're going from $145 million to a $153 million or $155 million. I was talking about rent. I think I misspoke. Our AFFO right now is about $74. That $74 is going to probably go to $83. I thought I said that also, I might have misspoke somewhere in there, and I used the term AFFO versus, I was talking about rental income.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

As it relates to John's question, the $0.33, that's just taking-

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Yeah.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

Multiplying our AFFO x2, divided by the outstanding shares in OP units.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Okay. Is it what you've done in 1H, not like 2Q x4?

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

No. It's just the first half of the year.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah. I'm sorry, I misspoke.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

Sorry. It's pretty stable between Q1 and Q2.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

I'm off today. We just came from the bris of my fourth grandson this morning, so I'm a little off my game. Sorry.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

No problem. Thinking about the prior conversation on issuing debt in the Israeli market, is there a size for the amount you're looking to raise? I understand you do have a significant amount of capacity still on the revolver, but that would potentially be useful if, as and if some of this deal flow you're talking about in the end of the year comes to fruition. How are you thinking about proceeds and how much of future investment volume maybe is financed with the revolver versus how much is financed with any additional capital you raise-

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

So-

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

with Israeli debt?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

The starting point is you'd need to take a minimum of ILS 165 million, which today comes out to $55 million. They do everything in a Dutch auction. Depending on the day where things are trading and where they're at, people are putting in closed bids. I don't believe it's really secretive. They say it is. I don't believe it. You start with that number. If the bidding is good, we'll take as much as we can where the pricing is good and it saves us, like I said, on the currency. We need ILS 160 million. We know we're going to get out of that ILS 160 million, we know for sure we would get $55 million-$60 million of it. Depending on the pricing, that number could go all the way to ILS 160 million, which I don't think we ever get to.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Most likely we're drawing on the line, in some capacity. Between the line, and that, we for sure will be fine paying it off I would like to do the most we can if the pricing is good. The market loves us over there, at least they seem like they do. When it comes to action on pricing and deals, they're greedy, like all the guys on Wall Street here are as well. It's fine. Everyone wants to make money. We go there, they're happy to see us, and we're one of top 5 strongest companies in Israel as far as cash flow and how we could pay our debt with the cash flow we have. Hopefully, like I said, minimum $55 million, maximum ILS 160 million. It's probably somewhere in the middle, we'll use the line of credit for the difference.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

That future debt raising, could that potentially have a similar impact on G&A as some of the closing costs you saw in 2Q, or is it just much less expensive than what went into closing? I'm assuming most of those closing costs were tied to the credit facility. What went into closing the new bank debt?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah. It's an actually interesting accounting thing. In when you're doing bond accounting, you have issuance costs that get amortized into interest expense over the life of the bond. If the life of the bond is a five-year bond, and you're paying your IB there 1.5 to 2 points. You take that and you divide it by five years, incrementally you're bleeding into your interest expense, a smaller number, which is fine. In America, we're able to take a finance charge, and under FAS 91, I think it is, we're able to take that over the life of that loan. In this case, since the way it's written is a three-one-one, you're taking it over three years.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

What doesn't get amortized over the life is all the title work and all the closing costs and all the other BS that goes into the number, appraisals and whatever other. That shit gets expensed in the period of where it was incurred, and that's what hit us. If we would've taken that $700,000 or $800,000, like $760,000 or whatever the number is, and we would've divided that by three years, no one would even notice that there was a blip on the Even $768,000 is immaterial in reality. Take that over three years, $200,000, $250,000 in a year wouldn't even get noticed in a quarter. It's nothing, right? $32,000, whatever the number is. Because we had to take it when it occurred, and that's where you see that. In Israel, you don't notice that.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

You wouldn't see a hit to the net income because there's no real accounting fee to do the letter over there is like $5,000. The law firm we basically have on retainer, and we give them a little extra. There's so little in doing the issuance. The other benefit of doing the bond, which is what I like also, is when we need money in a pinch, it takes three days to do a private placement. If we're trading at par, then we give a guy 98% of par, and we'll have the money in three days, and we could do another $20 million, $30 million, $40 million. When we have a deal, right now we have Bond B that I could draw from if I wanted to on the private placement.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

We have Bond C that we have another few months before the lockout ends, and we'll be able to draw. We have capacity where our rating doesn't change. It gives us ability. Assume for argument's sake, we make a deal, and we want to buy something for $200 million in January. We could just go draw on a line, take regular financing, use cash, do an equity raise. We have so many tools available for us to be able to come up with the cash we have to close deals. Yeah, I think that answers your question.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

No, I appreciate all that detail. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from Kenneth Billingsley with Compass Point Research and Trading. You may proceed.

Kenneth Billingsley
Analyst at Compass Point Research and Trading

Thank you. Good afternoon.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yes, good afternoon.

Kenneth Billingsley
Analyst at Compass Point Research and Trading

I didn't want your new slide to go unloved. I just want to clarify a comment. I might have misheard it. On the occupancy, somehow you had said that was high. I just wanted to clarify.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah. For us, the reason why I don't like that slide is because each state has their own occupancy, number one. Number two, this is a business that's efficiency based. For us, 77%, when we're in states that average occupancy is between 50% and 60%, is good. It gets to that number, like the Kentucky portfolio is nearing capacity. Arkansas, as an example, is also somewhere in the middle of the road. We have the Indiana and Illinois, or really Indiana, where the occupancy is like in the 60s. It's a way lower number, but they're our best tenants who make the most money, and they have the most coverage.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

That's why the slide is a little bit misleading because if you compare it against a portfolio of stuff that's in New York or California where everyone's at 99% occupancy, you can't compare a portfolio of Midwest where average occupancy is like 60%-70%. That's why I'm anti that slide. That 77% is an up for us. I think we used to run like 60%. Our portfolio ran like 68%, 69%. 77% is an improvement in our portfolio. You see it in our EBITDARM number going up. The coverage for the rent is over two. It's like 2.2 now, something like that.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

For our point of view is someone's investing with us, they can rely on our dividend because we have a 2x coverage on our dividend, and the rental income that's coming in, we have a 2x coverage on the rent, and we're being a good steward with the money, and we're stockpiling the cash, and being able to buy more stuff to make the value of each share grow up. That's our objective. We're thinking about the shareholder and how we're good stewards and custodians of what we're doing here. Occupancy really doesn't play a role in that, but I think I answered your question.

Kenneth Billingsley
Analyst at Compass Point Research and Trading

I think so, yep. Then on some of the comments you made about some of the new states, I know you said one of them is a new master lease and another one's a one-off. Are these new partners or operators, or are they people you're familiar with?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah. Well, we're familiar with them, but they're brand new to us. One is a sale-leaseback, and that's a new state, but we're expecting that's going to grow. They're trying for the first time. We sat down with them, and we really feel that they're strong. They've been in the nursing home business for 20 something years, and now they realized it's better not to own the real estate, so they're doing sale-leasebacks, which will give them more money for working capital on more deals. We should have more deals with these guys. Then the other one is a brand-new portfolio in a new state, new tenant for us. We know the operator to be, and we're expecting them to succeed and do well there.

Kenneth Billingsley
Analyst at Compass Point Research and Trading

Then you talked about the potentials for partnering up, you threw out a number. I'm just curious. If you were to be partnering up, just with limited resources, would you focus primarily on those partnerships as opposed to acquisitions that you've sourced on your own? The reason I ask is based on the number you gave, are these partners, do they have similar size facilities, the debt being similar? I'm not asking you to get into all the detail, but could this be another 280 facilities that would-

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah

Kenneth Billingsley
Analyst at Compass Point Research and Trading

come onto the books if you were to partner with all these?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

Yeah. Let me clarify. Right, there's two things here. There's managing the public market conversation, doing this stuff, which we're always learning. I don't think we're great at this yet. We keep it real, so we talk, and we're friendly with everybody. That's a good starting point. There's the business of the public markets, raising debt, managing the relationships with the analysts and the IBs, raising equity and running a balance sheet from that perspective. There's also actually running the business, which is also balance sheet, but asset management. These kind of deals, what the benefit that they want is what we've already created, where people know Strawberry Fields and our platform and our stock trades already. We're not looking for anything to change on management on the company side.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

The tenants that they have, they're running their own version of a REIT even though they're not a REIT. They're a for-profit LLC that rolls up, that we would suck it into our program. The people that work for them that are managing the asset could come work for us, and we could eliminate a bunch of overhead that they have because we don't need a second CFO, and maybe the accounting department needs another person or asset management needs some people, obviously. We're looking that nothing would change. I wouldn't even call it a partnership. It'd really be us absorbing them. Them joining the board so that they're part of the future. In that sense, there's a partnership. It's Strawberry Fields that gets perpetuated long term, even if current ownership gets diluted and new people come to the table, right?

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

This should be a running business that can perpetuate for the next 50 years, and just keep doing what it does and keep growing and not changing philosophy and not changing how we buy and if we can absorb this stuff.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

In my mind, it's 100%, within 10 years, we end up absorbing a few of these guys and for their sake, right now, they're doing all this as a mom and pop without the public market, but they're doing this as a mom and pop, and for their point of view, it's like, "If I could get an exit and I have Moishe who we trust and know, without me having to work hard like this, I could take a board seat and still see residual net income or distribution and cash flow, why wouldn't I do that deal?" That's the light bulb that's going off with the people out there that are peer-level folks today that we've known for many years that say, "Okay." We're working on that. It's a slow process, but we'll get there.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

There's no doubt in my mind within 10 years, our company is 4x or 5x the size we are today.

Kenneth Billingsley
Analyst at Compass Point Research and Trading

Great. Thank you.

Moishe Gubin
Moishe Gubin
Chairman and CEO at Strawberry Fields REIT

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jeff Bajtner for any closing remarks.

Jeff Bajtner
Jeff Bajtner
Chief Investment Officer at Strawberry Fields REIT

No, thank you so much. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today. Thank you for the questions. Thank you for the continued support. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to Moishe, Greg, or myself. Our emails are at the back of the presentation, and I'd like to wish everyone a good rest of the summer, and we'll see everyone in November.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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      Jeff Bajtner
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      Greg Flamion
      CFO
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      Moishe Gubin
      Chairman and CEO
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