NYSE:ROL Rollins Q1 2023 Earnings Report $56.65 -0.26 (-0.45%) Closing price 05/8/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$56.40 -0.25 (-0.45%) As of 08:16 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Rollins EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.18Consensus EPS $0.17Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS$0.15Rollins Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$658.02 millionExpected Revenue$643.78 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$14.24 millionYoY Revenue Growth+11.40%Rollins Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date4/26/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, April 27, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsRollins' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 23, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 24, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Rollins Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 27, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the Rollins Inc. First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:27It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Joseph Calabrese. Thank you, and you may proceed, sir. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, Claudia. By now, you should have all received a copy of the press release. However, if anyone is missing a copy www.rollins.com and a replay will be available for 180 days. The company is also offering investors a supporting slide presentation, which can be found on Rollins' website at www.rollins.com. We will be following that slide presentation on our call this morning and encourage you to view that with us. Speaker 100:01:17We have included certain non GAAP financial measures as part of our discussion this morning. The non GAAP reconciliations are available in the appendix of today's presentation as well as in our press release. The presentation and press release are available on our Investor Relations website. The company's earnings release discusses the business outlook and contains certain forward looking statements. These particular forward looking statements and all other statements that have been made on this call, Excluding historical facts, are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from any statement we make today. Speaker 100:01:58Please refer to yesterday's press release and the company's SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section of our Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2022, More information and the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ. On the line with me today and speaking For Jerry Gailiff, Jr, President and Chief Executive Officer John Wilson, Vice Chairman and Kenneth Krause, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Management will make some opening remarks, and then we'll open the line for your questions. John, would you like to begin? Speaker 200:02:33Yes. Thank you, Joe, and good morning. We appreciate all of you joining us for our Q1 2023 earnings call. I'm pleased to report Rollins delivered solid first quarter results highlighted by revenue growth of over 11% And earnings per share growth of 20%. I want to begin by welcoming P. Speaker 200:02:54Russell Hardin as Rollins' newest Board member. Russ was elected to our Board at our recent shareholder meeting and has served as President of the Robert W. Woodruff Foundation since 2006. He serves as a Director of Genuine Parts Company as well as a trustee of the Northwestern Mutual Company. Hardin practice law with the firm of King and Spalding and as a longtime resident of Atlanta has served this community in ways too numerous to list. Speaker 200:03:23Please help me welcome Russ Hardin. Now turning to the Fox Pest Control acquisition, I'm very excited about this recent event. Enjoying the strong reputation in the marketplace, we have long respected Fox's history of success. In fact, I have a relationship with one of their founders, Mike Romney going back close to 20 years. As Mike began doing summer sales programs for Orkin prior to co founding FOX, Fox Pest Control was formally established in 2012, initially marketing through the door to door sales effort and historically underserved pest control markets. Speaker 200:04:00Through consistent growth and expansion, Fox now provides general pest control services for homeowners from 32 locations In 13 states. Fox evolved in their growth strategies to include other streams as now about 3rd of their customers are acquired through digital channels. Not only does Fox rank as the 13th largest pest Management company according to the PCT 100 rankings, FOX also received recognition in 2021 by Inc. Magazine as one of the fastest growing private companies in America. In many of the markets they serve, Fox is a market leader with a great service reputation. Speaker 200:04:43I cannot stress enough what a great addition this is to our family of brands, and I'll now hand the call over to Jerry to recap Rollins' Q1 results and talk about the transaction in greater detail. Speaker 300:04:56Thank you, John, and thank you all for joining our call today. Our partnership with Fox was an 18 month process. As we worked on executing this transaction and learn more about Fox Business, we became increasingly impressed with their culture, their consistent and strong growth rates and their unique operating model. In early April, I had the opportunity to visit with many of the fantastic team members in Fox and was able to witness firsthand the deep pride they have in the Fox brand. Additionally, as Kim will cover in more detail later, we believe the financial benefits are very compelling. Speaker 300:05:33We expect the transaction to be accretive to earnings and cash flow in the 1st full year of ownership and will provide meaningful long term financial benefits as well. We also believe the complementary nature of their brand creates opportunities for enhancing Rollins' strategic platform for growth in the residential space. While still operating under the Fox Pest Control brand and being led by co founders Mike Romney and Bryant White, We see incredible potential for the teams at Fox and HomeTeam to learn and share with one another. There are multiple benefits tying Fox closely with HomeTeam, who have also been utilizing door to door campaigns to activate TAEX customers in their predominantly residential business For over 20 years. Furthermore, this alliance will provide HomeTeam with an ability to scale markets faster, while we provide the team at Fox with new service offerings and cross sell opportunities along the way. Speaker 300:06:32We're also particularly excited about the strong alignment of their culture and the value the partnership creates for customers, team members and to our shareholders. Fox has a passionate sense of community and a values driven approach that consistently delivers quality service coupled with a resilient track record of strong customer growth and solid employee retention. As we've demonstrated in the past, acquisitions are a key part of Rollins' growth strategy. Over the years, we have built a very successful playbook For their smooth transitions into our company and we are extremely excited about our path ahead with Fox. In summary, we are confident that Fox's business perfectly aligns to our strategy for sustainable, profitable growth and I'm incredibly proud to add them to our impressive family of pest control brands. Speaker 300:07:26Transitioning to our recent financial performance, I'm pleased to report that Rollins delivered solid first quarter results and realized strong year over year growth in many key performance areas. Kim will address the financials in more detail in a moment, But I'd like to highlight 3 key areas of progress in the quarter. First, we delivered 11% revenue growth. What was especially encouraging was our organic growth. Organic growth was more than 9% for the quarter with strong growth across all major service lines. Speaker 300:07:59Secondly, margins were very healthy to start the year. We delivered approximately 32 incremental margins and group GAAP earnings per share 20%. The focus on pricing, selling new business and productivity is paying off. On our year end call, we discussed our intention to initiate an earlier price increase this year and that certainly helped us particularly in March. We will continue to focus on this area to ensure that we are effectively pricing the value of our essential services. Speaker 300:08:32And last but not least, we reported strong growth in cash flow for the quarter. We remain well positioned to continue to invest in Acquisitions and maintain a balanced capital allocation strategy. As we move into spring and summer months, we expect a good business environment and Strong demand for our services when you consider recent weather patterns resulting in wet outdoor conditions. April is off to a favorable start And our teams in the field are well staffed and trained as we head into our traditional peak season. We're also continuing to add to our sales force And emphasizing bundling of mosquito of multiple services like pest and mosquito through our call center operations. Speaker 300:09:15I want to emphasize how pleased we are with Rollins' strong Q1 performance. And looking ahead, we remain well positioned for 2023 and confident in our ability to continue to drive strong operating results. I'll now turn the call over to Ken. Speaker 400:09:31Thank you, Jerry, and good morning, everyone. The team delivered a strong start to the year. Let me begin with a few financial highlights for the Q1 of 2023. First, we delivered over 11% revenue growth in the Q1 with robust growth across all our service Acquisitions drove approximately 2% of the total revenue growth in the quarter. We expect to see meaningful improvement in growth from acquisitions For the remainder of the year, stemming from the acquisition of Fox we announced earlier this month. Speaker 400:10:042nd, our continued emphasis on margin improvements GAAP earnings per share increased 20 percent to $0.18 per share. And last but not least, We delivered a 15% improvement in operating cash flow and a 17% improvement in free cash flow. Let's look at the quarterly results in more detail. Starting off with revenue, it was up 6 It was $658,000,000 up just over 11% on a reported basis. Currencies reduced quarterly revenue growth by 60 basis points on the stronger dollar, notably versus the Canadian dollar, The British pound and the Australian dollar. Speaker 400:10:58Turning to profitability, we realized 30 basis points improvement in gross profit margin. Gross profit margins were 50.3 percent of revenue in the quarter. We saw good performance on gross profit as Pricing more than offset inflationary pressures. We were more consistent in raising prices across all of our brands this year. We discussed our intent to do this on our year end call and it was good to see the impact of the steps we took on revenue And profitability. Speaker 400:11:30Looking at 4 major buckets of cost: people, fleet, materials and supplies, and insurance and claims. These comprised approximately 90% of cost of services in the quarter. We saw improvements in margins associated with people costs As well as fleet costs, material and supplies were neutral to margins, while insurance and claims were a headwind to margins. We delivered improvements in SG and A expense as well. SG and A improved 40 basis points when stated as a percentage of revenue during the most recent quarter. Speaker 400:12:09Let's dive into the major categories of SG and A a bit more. People costs, Advertising and selling costs and insurance and claims make up a majority of our spend in SG and A. Margins benefited in the people cost area, advertising and selling related costs were relatively neutral to margins, while insurance and claims was a headwind to margins. As the case in the prior year, we expect to see SG and A tick up slightly in Q2 As we invest more heavily in customer acquisition related costs across the business during the start of our more busy season in the 2nd quarter. We do not have any non GAAP adjustments to operating income or EBITDA this year. Speaker 400:12:53GAAP operating income was $112,000,000 17.1 percent of revenue, increasing 130 basis points from the same quarter a year ago. EBITDA margin was 21.2 percent, up a strong 130 basis points over the prior year EBITDA margin. As I have consistently indicated, I like to look at the business using incremental margins or meaning what percent of every additional dollar of revenue growth is converted On an as reported basis, we generated incremental margins of approximately 32% in the most recent period. Quarterly GAAP net income was $88,000,000 or $0.18 in an earnings per share, increasing from $0.15 per share in the same period a year ago. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet. Speaker 400:13:46Quarterly free cash flow was very strong in the quarter. We generated $93,000,000 of free cash flow on $88,000,000 of earnings. Free cash flow increased by over 17% in the most recent period. Cash flow conversion, the percent of income that was turned into cash was also a bright spot coming in at above 100% for the Quarter. We made acquisitions totaling $15,000,000 and we paid $64,000,000 in dividends. Speaker 400:14:16Debt remains negligible and debt to EBITDA is well below 1x on a gross level. We closed and announced Fox acquisition earlier in April. We are excited about the strategic growth opportunities this acquisition will provide us. A few financial details. We expect this acquisition to add between $90,000,000 $100,000,000 of revenue in 2023. Speaker 400:14:40The acquisition should add $18,000,000 to $22,000,000 of EBITDA for the remainder of the year. We used a combination of existing cash balances and borrowings to pay for this We continue to be very active in pursuing additional acquisition opportunities. We expect the Fox acquisition to be accretive to earnings in the Full year with more meaningful contributions to EPS during the latter part of this year and into the Q1 of next year. We are in the process of finalizing our purchase accounting and we'll provide an update on this on our Q2 call in July after we complete that process. During the quarter, we refinanced our credit facilities that were set to expire in April of 2024. Speaker 400:15:26We closed on our new before the banking crisis in March and we were able to successfully secure a more modernized facility that in addition to other benefits Provides us with the opportunity to incorporate sustainability metrics into the revolver in the future. Additionally, we conducted an RFP for our external audit service We remain very well positioned to continue to fund our dividend and grow through acquisitions. In summary, our quarter performance continues to demonstrate the strength of our business model and the engagement level of our team. We remain focused on providing our customers with the best customer experience and driving growth through acquisition. Organic demand remains robust and we are very well positioned to continue to use our strong balance sheet to grow our business. Speaker 400:16:32The acquisition pipeline is healthy and our strong cash flow and balance sheet positions us well to invest in our business. We continue to focus on execution and driving long term profitable growth for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jerry. Speaker 300:16:50Thank you, Ken. We are happy to take any questions at this time. Operator00:16:56Thank you very much. We will now be conducting a question and answer The first question comes from Tim Mulrooney from William Blair. Speaker 500:17:46Jerry, John, Ken, good morning. Speaker 200:17:48Good morning, Tim. Speaker 500:17:51Thanks for taking my questions. I was going to ask about the strategic rationale on Fox, but you guys did a great job about that in the prepared remarks. So I think I'm going to skip that and just jump to the strong Organic growth. The commercial pest business, that organic growth was basically double What we were expecting in the Q1, that's a significant margin of error, particularly for a predictable business like yours. So is there anything you can highlight here, large customer wins, new programs you've established, a pickup in cross selling, anything you can highlight as what Attributed to that unexpected strength in that commercial piece? Speaker 300:18:32Tim, this is Jerry. To me, it's pretty simple. It's about the investments we've made in hiring and staffing on the commercial side, the commercial front with our commercial account managers, We have considerably larger staff than we did even a year ago and far more than we did 2 years ago. So their efforts, feet on the street every single day, bringing new business in at the volume they're bringing in, that's what's making the difference. It's not about individual wins of big customers or anything like that. Speaker 300:19:06It's the collective efforts of everything that they've done. Speaker 500:19:12Okay. It sounds broad based. Thank you. And then just switching gears from organic growth to capital allocation. I mean, now that you've already spent More than $300,000,000 already in 2023. Speaker 500:19:26Should we expect a slowdown in M and A spend for the remainder of the year? Are we still going to see you acquire 30 to 40 bolt ons that you normally do in a given year? I mean, can you also discuss your plans for that leverage I mean, do you intend to drive it back to 0 over the next several years like you typically do? Or can might we Are we potentially looking at a different capital structure at Rollins on a go forward basis? Thank you. Speaker 300:19:52Yes. So Tim, this is Jerry. I'll handle the first part of that. We'll continue to look for tuck in acquisitions, bolt on acquisitions. We'll continue that Pat, and of course continue to evaluate even larger acquisitions if they're there for us to get and the timing is right. Speaker 300:20:10But at the same time, we're also fairly cautious. We like to ensure that what we've the most recent deal It is handled well and our time and attention and focus is put on that to make sure that goes smoothly, that transition goes smoothly. We don't want to jump in anything with Too much of a distraction for our team or for them in the short run. So we're probably a little bit cautious there on really large deals In the very short term, but we'll continue to Speaker 400:20:42do the bolt ons. And I'll let Ken address the question about capital. Sure. Just adding on to what Jerry Ed mentioned the integration efforts are certainly really important to us. And so we want to make sure that we integrate these business As much as we can while not disrupting the customer facing aspect of these businesses which are so strong. Speaker 400:21:04From a debt to EBITDA perspective, Tim, I believe you were asking. When we look at our capital structure, we have an incredibly strong balance sheet. It does not mean that we're going to lever up 2 or 3 times to go after transformational acquisitions. We quite frankly don't need to. The business is So strong. Speaker 400:21:23But we will do is use our balance sheet in a strategic manner to grow this business. And so that's the focus. I can't commit to a debt to EBITDA leverage ratio, but what I can tell you is we will remain very much investment grade. We will very much remain to the playbook that we've executed for a very long time, which has certainly paid off for our investors. Operator00:21:51Thank you. The next question comes from Stephanie Moore from Jefferies. Please proceed with your question, Stephanie. Speaker 500:21:58Good morning. This is Harold Lantor on for Stephanie Moore. Last quarter, I know you reduced marketing spend for the quarter year over year. How did marketing spend track this quarter and how is it tracking for 2Q2023? Thank you. Speaker 600:22:13Thank you, Harold. I appreciate the question. This is Ken. Speaker 400:22:17I had mentioned in my prepared comments that advertising and marketing related costs were relatively neutral to margins. So that means that we were spending at just about the rate of growth of revenue in the Q1. With that said, as we enter the second quarter, We are continuing to ramp up our investment in customer acquisition related costs. And so As we go into the Q2, it's important for us to procure those new customers, which have an incredibly valuable long term relationship with our business. Approximately 80% of our business is recurring. Speaker 400:22:52And so it's important for us to go after and get those new And so we'll continue to tick that up in the Q2 as we have in past years. And so That's I think that's an important point to remember as you think about modeling out, say, the 2nd Q3 of the year. Speaker 500:23:13Thank you. That'll be all. Thank Operator00:23:18you. The next question comes from David Tietz from RBC. Please proceed with your question, David. Speaker 500:23:25Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I'm actually on for Ashish Sabara at RBC. You mentioned Fox Pest Control, about 1 third of the customers are acquired through digital channels. Do you have an outlook for the customer acquisition through digital channels post fully integrated Fox and maybe At HomeTeam and then overall Rollins. Speaker 500:23:50Thank you. Speaker 300:23:54I don't know that we've gotten that deep into the analysis. We want Fox too, we want to make for a smooth transition and have Fox settle into what they're doing. Certainly, they have the team at Fox has had a Themselves gone through this transition over time ramping up on the digital side and We will help them and continue to support their efforts to do that, give them some of our expertise And knowledge along the way to help them mature in that area and convert Leads to sales and starts and those types of things that we're we feel like we can help them with over time. But at this point, I wouldn't give you any insight in terms of long term what that may look like a year from now or 2 years from now. So premature. Speaker 400:24:46What I would add to that Jerry is that Fox does a really exceptional job in their marketing efforts. And There might be an opportunity to leverage Fox and the Rollins family of brands. And so I think that's really important to think about as you go forward. They do a really good job and we certainly want to leverage all the work that they do across their business to benefit us through this combination. Speaker 100:25:13Thank you. Operator00:25:18Thank you. The next question comes from Seth Weber from Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question, Seth. Speaker 700:25:25Hi. This is actually John filling in for Seth. Congratulations on the Just maybe quickly on the insurance and claims, could you give us some more color on really kind of how the headwind progressed The quarter as well as how we should think about the cost going forward this year? Thanks. Speaker 400:25:41Certainly can do that for you and appreciate the comments. Insurance and claims has been a bit of a headwind here for a period of time. I believe going back to last year In the Q3, we talked about that. This year, when we look at the experience in insurance claim and claims, there's 2 aspects to that experience. 1 or just higher insurance premiums. Speaker 400:26:02As you know, we had poor experience last year. And so unfortunately, we saw that come through with higher insurance Premiums in the Q1, that will carry through for the remainder of the year. The second part of it is we continue to see Some unfavorable experience in that area. We're ramping up our focus on behavioral based safety across the company and ensuring that we're making the right Investments in the areas that will help improve our performance in that area. But it's an area of focus for the company and we continue to focus on driving some Unfortunately, we do feel the negative impact of a tighter insurance market, however. Speaker 700:26:44Got it. That's great color. Thank you. And maybe quickly just as we think about the cadence of residential, especially with advertising and customer acquisition Sven, wrapping in the Q2 for the kind of peak season. Can you just give us a sense at a high level how you're thinking about the kind of pacing of residential? Speaker 700:27:01And Would it be fair to assume we could kind of see an acceleration from these levels or are you thinking more of a kind of steady state high single digit on an organic basis? Thanks. Speaker 400:27:13It's hard to provide an estimate on that as we think about the next quarter or 2. However, we feel like the investments we're making in our people and our technicians and our sales folks, the focus we're making on cross selling And driving cross sell and a wider share of wallet with each and every individual customer is paying off. And we feel very optimistic and bullish about our opportunity to continue to grow our position with our really important residential customers Into the future. Speaker 300:27:47Yes. This is Jerry. I would add, we're in a really good position to take advantage of strong demand in the marketplace As it's there. So we feel strong about our position to be able to capitalize on the potential for growth in the market. Operator00:28:22The next question comes from Grant Slade from Morningstar. Please proceed with your question, Grant. Speaker 600:28:28Hi, Gerry. Hi, Ken. Thank you both Very much for the additional detail on the Fox acquisition. It's very helpful. Just a point of clarification, however, if I may. Speaker 600:28:39I was just curious, the $18,000,000 to $22,000,000 in EBITDA contribution for this year, Does that include the full extent of cost synergies that you're expecting to realize from the deal? Or are there perhaps further synergies we should be expecting In 2024 or later? And I guess if so, the quantum of those and the timing would be helpful If you're able to share that detail with us. Speaker 400:29:07Yes. Thank you for the question. We feel like that's when we think about And we think about integration as we started the call. We certainly are taking a pragmatic approach with respect to synergies and synergy capture. We do think that this business will be accretive to our margins in the next 2 to 3 years. Speaker 400:29:29The first year is all about getting in and trying to understand what makes the business so valuable. We don't want to move too quickly, but we also don't want to move too slowly. But we do feel like that $18,000,000 to $22,000,000 is our best expectation or estimate of what we can deliver on the acquisition this year. Speaker 600:29:50Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:29:55Thank you. The next question comes from Adit Shrestha from Stifel. Please proceed with your question, Adit. Speaker 800:30:03Hi, good morning. This is Adam from Stifel. Thank you for taking my questions and congratulations on the strong quarter. So my first question is just relating to FOX Pest acquisition. How should the annual $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 sales, how should that be allocated across the lines of business? Speaker 800:30:21And what are the drivers that would get you to $100,000,000 versus that low end of $90,000,000 What are you actually building in? Speaker 100:30:28Why Speaker 400:30:32don't you handle it, Ken? Sure. And so when we look at that business, The breakdown is highly focused on residential. Large percentage of that business is the private sector and so that'll Come through our residential segment of our business. We feel like that $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 would probably come into our business Very similarly to how our business is reported. Speaker 400:31:00So Q2, you'll see a ramping from Q1 and then Q3 3, you'll see further ramping. That's just the seasonality of our business. We feel like there's opportunities to drive some outsized growth there, but I feel like this $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 is a very realistic estimate and is reflective of the growth trajectory, A strong growth trajectory that the business is already on. And so we feel like it's very realistic in Achieving that $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 this year as we think about the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:31:35Ken, if I may add, this is John Wilson. But if I may add, Retention is critical. And so that's why with these acquisitions, we don't go into look into RockTheWorld and go so carefully on the Integration and or assimilation, but Fox continuing their current path on the way they retain their customers And retain their employees, which are important to keep in those customers, will determine whether we get to the $100,000,000 versus the $90,000,000 Speaker 800:32:08All right. Thank you for that. And I have a follow-up regarding your incremental margins, pretty healthy 32%. How should we think about it for the remainder of the year? Can you maybe exceed that 32% with sort of the pricing actions and the cost cutting initiatives that you put in? Speaker 800:32:24Just like What's the impact of Fox best on that? Speaker 600:32:28Certainly. Thanks for the question. Speaker 400:32:31If you look at the last 9 months, the last 3 quarters if you will, going back to the second half of last year. We've consistently delivered an incremental margin, that's Approaching 30%. So we feel like we're positioned very well to deliver that 30% sort of incremental margin as we move forward. There's always challenges. There's always puts and there's takes. Speaker 400:32:53And there might be 1 quarter where you might be below that, but you might have 1 quarter where you exceed that. As I said in my prepared comments, The Q2, you're going to see a little bit more investment in customer acquisition cost. We see an opportunity to go after and get customers That are going to create long term value for our business. And so you'll probably see a little bit more investment, a little heavier investment comes through in that area as we think about the Q2, but we feel very good about long term value creation from those customers that will help us deliver That incremental margin profile of 30 plus percent. Operator00:33:34Thank you very much. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for closing remarks. Thank you. Speaker 300:33:42Well, thanks everyone for joining our call today. We look forward to giving you an update at the end of the second quarter on our next call. We'll see you then. Thank you. Operator00:33:54Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. 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Email Address About RollinsRollins (NYSE:ROL), through its subsidiaries, provides pest and wildlife control services to residential and commercial customers in the United States and internationally. The company offers pest control services to residential properties protecting from common pests, including rodents, insects, and wildlife. It also provides workplace pest control solutions for customers across various end markets, such as healthcare, foodservice, and logistics. In addition, the company offers termite protection services and ancillary services. It serves clients directly, as well as through franchisee operations. The company was formerly known as Rollins Broadcasting, Inc and changed its name to Rollins, Inc. in 1965. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the Rollins Inc. First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:27It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Joseph Calabrese. Thank you, and you may proceed, sir. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, Claudia. By now, you should have all received a copy of the press release. However, if anyone is missing a copy www.rollins.com and a replay will be available for 180 days. The company is also offering investors a supporting slide presentation, which can be found on Rollins' website at www.rollins.com. We will be following that slide presentation on our call this morning and encourage you to view that with us. Speaker 100:01:17We have included certain non GAAP financial measures as part of our discussion this morning. The non GAAP reconciliations are available in the appendix of today's presentation as well as in our press release. The presentation and press release are available on our Investor Relations website. The company's earnings release discusses the business outlook and contains certain forward looking statements. These particular forward looking statements and all other statements that have been made on this call, Excluding historical facts, are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from any statement we make today. Speaker 100:01:58Please refer to yesterday's press release and the company's SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section of our Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2022, More information and the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ. On the line with me today and speaking For Jerry Gailiff, Jr, President and Chief Executive Officer John Wilson, Vice Chairman and Kenneth Krause, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Management will make some opening remarks, and then we'll open the line for your questions. John, would you like to begin? Speaker 200:02:33Yes. Thank you, Joe, and good morning. We appreciate all of you joining us for our Q1 2023 earnings call. I'm pleased to report Rollins delivered solid first quarter results highlighted by revenue growth of over 11% And earnings per share growth of 20%. I want to begin by welcoming P. Speaker 200:02:54Russell Hardin as Rollins' newest Board member. Russ was elected to our Board at our recent shareholder meeting and has served as President of the Robert W. Woodruff Foundation since 2006. He serves as a Director of Genuine Parts Company as well as a trustee of the Northwestern Mutual Company. Hardin practice law with the firm of King and Spalding and as a longtime resident of Atlanta has served this community in ways too numerous to list. Speaker 200:03:23Please help me welcome Russ Hardin. Now turning to the Fox Pest Control acquisition, I'm very excited about this recent event. Enjoying the strong reputation in the marketplace, we have long respected Fox's history of success. In fact, I have a relationship with one of their founders, Mike Romney going back close to 20 years. As Mike began doing summer sales programs for Orkin prior to co founding FOX, Fox Pest Control was formally established in 2012, initially marketing through the door to door sales effort and historically underserved pest control markets. Speaker 200:04:00Through consistent growth and expansion, Fox now provides general pest control services for homeowners from 32 locations In 13 states. Fox evolved in their growth strategies to include other streams as now about 3rd of their customers are acquired through digital channels. Not only does Fox rank as the 13th largest pest Management company according to the PCT 100 rankings, FOX also received recognition in 2021 by Inc. Magazine as one of the fastest growing private companies in America. In many of the markets they serve, Fox is a market leader with a great service reputation. Speaker 200:04:43I cannot stress enough what a great addition this is to our family of brands, and I'll now hand the call over to Jerry to recap Rollins' Q1 results and talk about the transaction in greater detail. Speaker 300:04:56Thank you, John, and thank you all for joining our call today. Our partnership with Fox was an 18 month process. As we worked on executing this transaction and learn more about Fox Business, we became increasingly impressed with their culture, their consistent and strong growth rates and their unique operating model. In early April, I had the opportunity to visit with many of the fantastic team members in Fox and was able to witness firsthand the deep pride they have in the Fox brand. Additionally, as Kim will cover in more detail later, we believe the financial benefits are very compelling. Speaker 300:05:33We expect the transaction to be accretive to earnings and cash flow in the 1st full year of ownership and will provide meaningful long term financial benefits as well. We also believe the complementary nature of their brand creates opportunities for enhancing Rollins' strategic platform for growth in the residential space. While still operating under the Fox Pest Control brand and being led by co founders Mike Romney and Bryant White, We see incredible potential for the teams at Fox and HomeTeam to learn and share with one another. There are multiple benefits tying Fox closely with HomeTeam, who have also been utilizing door to door campaigns to activate TAEX customers in their predominantly residential business For over 20 years. Furthermore, this alliance will provide HomeTeam with an ability to scale markets faster, while we provide the team at Fox with new service offerings and cross sell opportunities along the way. Speaker 300:06:32We're also particularly excited about the strong alignment of their culture and the value the partnership creates for customers, team members and to our shareholders. Fox has a passionate sense of community and a values driven approach that consistently delivers quality service coupled with a resilient track record of strong customer growth and solid employee retention. As we've demonstrated in the past, acquisitions are a key part of Rollins' growth strategy. Over the years, we have built a very successful playbook For their smooth transitions into our company and we are extremely excited about our path ahead with Fox. In summary, we are confident that Fox's business perfectly aligns to our strategy for sustainable, profitable growth and I'm incredibly proud to add them to our impressive family of pest control brands. Speaker 300:07:26Transitioning to our recent financial performance, I'm pleased to report that Rollins delivered solid first quarter results and realized strong year over year growth in many key performance areas. Kim will address the financials in more detail in a moment, But I'd like to highlight 3 key areas of progress in the quarter. First, we delivered 11% revenue growth. What was especially encouraging was our organic growth. Organic growth was more than 9% for the quarter with strong growth across all major service lines. Speaker 300:07:59Secondly, margins were very healthy to start the year. We delivered approximately 32 incremental margins and group GAAP earnings per share 20%. The focus on pricing, selling new business and productivity is paying off. On our year end call, we discussed our intention to initiate an earlier price increase this year and that certainly helped us particularly in March. We will continue to focus on this area to ensure that we are effectively pricing the value of our essential services. Speaker 300:08:32And last but not least, we reported strong growth in cash flow for the quarter. We remain well positioned to continue to invest in Acquisitions and maintain a balanced capital allocation strategy. As we move into spring and summer months, we expect a good business environment and Strong demand for our services when you consider recent weather patterns resulting in wet outdoor conditions. April is off to a favorable start And our teams in the field are well staffed and trained as we head into our traditional peak season. We're also continuing to add to our sales force And emphasizing bundling of mosquito of multiple services like pest and mosquito through our call center operations. Speaker 300:09:15I want to emphasize how pleased we are with Rollins' strong Q1 performance. And looking ahead, we remain well positioned for 2023 and confident in our ability to continue to drive strong operating results. I'll now turn the call over to Ken. Speaker 400:09:31Thank you, Jerry, and good morning, everyone. The team delivered a strong start to the year. Let me begin with a few financial highlights for the Q1 of 2023. First, we delivered over 11% revenue growth in the Q1 with robust growth across all our service Acquisitions drove approximately 2% of the total revenue growth in the quarter. We expect to see meaningful improvement in growth from acquisitions For the remainder of the year, stemming from the acquisition of Fox we announced earlier this month. Speaker 400:10:042nd, our continued emphasis on margin improvements GAAP earnings per share increased 20 percent to $0.18 per share. And last but not least, We delivered a 15% improvement in operating cash flow and a 17% improvement in free cash flow. Let's look at the quarterly results in more detail. Starting off with revenue, it was up 6 It was $658,000,000 up just over 11% on a reported basis. Currencies reduced quarterly revenue growth by 60 basis points on the stronger dollar, notably versus the Canadian dollar, The British pound and the Australian dollar. Speaker 400:10:58Turning to profitability, we realized 30 basis points improvement in gross profit margin. Gross profit margins were 50.3 percent of revenue in the quarter. We saw good performance on gross profit as Pricing more than offset inflationary pressures. We were more consistent in raising prices across all of our brands this year. We discussed our intent to do this on our year end call and it was good to see the impact of the steps we took on revenue And profitability. Speaker 400:11:30Looking at 4 major buckets of cost: people, fleet, materials and supplies, and insurance and claims. These comprised approximately 90% of cost of services in the quarter. We saw improvements in margins associated with people costs As well as fleet costs, material and supplies were neutral to margins, while insurance and claims were a headwind to margins. We delivered improvements in SG and A expense as well. SG and A improved 40 basis points when stated as a percentage of revenue during the most recent quarter. Speaker 400:12:09Let's dive into the major categories of SG and A a bit more. People costs, Advertising and selling costs and insurance and claims make up a majority of our spend in SG and A. Margins benefited in the people cost area, advertising and selling related costs were relatively neutral to margins, while insurance and claims was a headwind to margins. As the case in the prior year, we expect to see SG and A tick up slightly in Q2 As we invest more heavily in customer acquisition related costs across the business during the start of our more busy season in the 2nd quarter. We do not have any non GAAP adjustments to operating income or EBITDA this year. Speaker 400:12:53GAAP operating income was $112,000,000 17.1 percent of revenue, increasing 130 basis points from the same quarter a year ago. EBITDA margin was 21.2 percent, up a strong 130 basis points over the prior year EBITDA margin. As I have consistently indicated, I like to look at the business using incremental margins or meaning what percent of every additional dollar of revenue growth is converted On an as reported basis, we generated incremental margins of approximately 32% in the most recent period. Quarterly GAAP net income was $88,000,000 or $0.18 in an earnings per share, increasing from $0.15 per share in the same period a year ago. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet. Speaker 400:13:46Quarterly free cash flow was very strong in the quarter. We generated $93,000,000 of free cash flow on $88,000,000 of earnings. Free cash flow increased by over 17% in the most recent period. Cash flow conversion, the percent of income that was turned into cash was also a bright spot coming in at above 100% for the Quarter. We made acquisitions totaling $15,000,000 and we paid $64,000,000 in dividends. Speaker 400:14:16Debt remains negligible and debt to EBITDA is well below 1x on a gross level. We closed and announced Fox acquisition earlier in April. We are excited about the strategic growth opportunities this acquisition will provide us. A few financial details. We expect this acquisition to add between $90,000,000 $100,000,000 of revenue in 2023. Speaker 400:14:40The acquisition should add $18,000,000 to $22,000,000 of EBITDA for the remainder of the year. We used a combination of existing cash balances and borrowings to pay for this We continue to be very active in pursuing additional acquisition opportunities. We expect the Fox acquisition to be accretive to earnings in the Full year with more meaningful contributions to EPS during the latter part of this year and into the Q1 of next year. We are in the process of finalizing our purchase accounting and we'll provide an update on this on our Q2 call in July after we complete that process. During the quarter, we refinanced our credit facilities that were set to expire in April of 2024. Speaker 400:15:26We closed on our new before the banking crisis in March and we were able to successfully secure a more modernized facility that in addition to other benefits Provides us with the opportunity to incorporate sustainability metrics into the revolver in the future. Additionally, we conducted an RFP for our external audit service We remain very well positioned to continue to fund our dividend and grow through acquisitions. In summary, our quarter performance continues to demonstrate the strength of our business model and the engagement level of our team. We remain focused on providing our customers with the best customer experience and driving growth through acquisition. Organic demand remains robust and we are very well positioned to continue to use our strong balance sheet to grow our business. Speaker 400:16:32The acquisition pipeline is healthy and our strong cash flow and balance sheet positions us well to invest in our business. We continue to focus on execution and driving long term profitable growth for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jerry. Speaker 300:16:50Thank you, Ken. We are happy to take any questions at this time. Operator00:16:56Thank you very much. We will now be conducting a question and answer The first question comes from Tim Mulrooney from William Blair. Speaker 500:17:46Jerry, John, Ken, good morning. Speaker 200:17:48Good morning, Tim. Speaker 500:17:51Thanks for taking my questions. I was going to ask about the strategic rationale on Fox, but you guys did a great job about that in the prepared remarks. So I think I'm going to skip that and just jump to the strong Organic growth. The commercial pest business, that organic growth was basically double What we were expecting in the Q1, that's a significant margin of error, particularly for a predictable business like yours. So is there anything you can highlight here, large customer wins, new programs you've established, a pickup in cross selling, anything you can highlight as what Attributed to that unexpected strength in that commercial piece? Speaker 300:18:32Tim, this is Jerry. To me, it's pretty simple. It's about the investments we've made in hiring and staffing on the commercial side, the commercial front with our commercial account managers, We have considerably larger staff than we did even a year ago and far more than we did 2 years ago. So their efforts, feet on the street every single day, bringing new business in at the volume they're bringing in, that's what's making the difference. It's not about individual wins of big customers or anything like that. Speaker 300:19:06It's the collective efforts of everything that they've done. Speaker 500:19:12Okay. It sounds broad based. Thank you. And then just switching gears from organic growth to capital allocation. I mean, now that you've already spent More than $300,000,000 already in 2023. Speaker 500:19:26Should we expect a slowdown in M and A spend for the remainder of the year? Are we still going to see you acquire 30 to 40 bolt ons that you normally do in a given year? I mean, can you also discuss your plans for that leverage I mean, do you intend to drive it back to 0 over the next several years like you typically do? Or can might we Are we potentially looking at a different capital structure at Rollins on a go forward basis? Thank you. Speaker 300:19:52Yes. So Tim, this is Jerry. I'll handle the first part of that. We'll continue to look for tuck in acquisitions, bolt on acquisitions. We'll continue that Pat, and of course continue to evaluate even larger acquisitions if they're there for us to get and the timing is right. Speaker 300:20:10But at the same time, we're also fairly cautious. We like to ensure that what we've the most recent deal It is handled well and our time and attention and focus is put on that to make sure that goes smoothly, that transition goes smoothly. We don't want to jump in anything with Too much of a distraction for our team or for them in the short run. So we're probably a little bit cautious there on really large deals In the very short term, but we'll continue to Speaker 400:20:42do the bolt ons. And I'll let Ken address the question about capital. Sure. Just adding on to what Jerry Ed mentioned the integration efforts are certainly really important to us. And so we want to make sure that we integrate these business As much as we can while not disrupting the customer facing aspect of these businesses which are so strong. Speaker 400:21:04From a debt to EBITDA perspective, Tim, I believe you were asking. When we look at our capital structure, we have an incredibly strong balance sheet. It does not mean that we're going to lever up 2 or 3 times to go after transformational acquisitions. We quite frankly don't need to. The business is So strong. Speaker 400:21:23But we will do is use our balance sheet in a strategic manner to grow this business. And so that's the focus. I can't commit to a debt to EBITDA leverage ratio, but what I can tell you is we will remain very much investment grade. We will very much remain to the playbook that we've executed for a very long time, which has certainly paid off for our investors. Operator00:21:51Thank you. The next question comes from Stephanie Moore from Jefferies. Please proceed with your question, Stephanie. Speaker 500:21:58Good morning. This is Harold Lantor on for Stephanie Moore. Last quarter, I know you reduced marketing spend for the quarter year over year. How did marketing spend track this quarter and how is it tracking for 2Q2023? Thank you. Speaker 600:22:13Thank you, Harold. I appreciate the question. This is Ken. Speaker 400:22:17I had mentioned in my prepared comments that advertising and marketing related costs were relatively neutral to margins. So that means that we were spending at just about the rate of growth of revenue in the Q1. With that said, as we enter the second quarter, We are continuing to ramp up our investment in customer acquisition related costs. And so As we go into the Q2, it's important for us to procure those new customers, which have an incredibly valuable long term relationship with our business. Approximately 80% of our business is recurring. Speaker 400:22:52And so it's important for us to go after and get those new And so we'll continue to tick that up in the Q2 as we have in past years. And so That's I think that's an important point to remember as you think about modeling out, say, the 2nd Q3 of the year. Speaker 500:23:13Thank you. That'll be all. Thank Operator00:23:18you. The next question comes from David Tietz from RBC. Please proceed with your question, David. Speaker 500:23:25Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I'm actually on for Ashish Sabara at RBC. You mentioned Fox Pest Control, about 1 third of the customers are acquired through digital channels. Do you have an outlook for the customer acquisition through digital channels post fully integrated Fox and maybe At HomeTeam and then overall Rollins. Speaker 500:23:50Thank you. Speaker 300:23:54I don't know that we've gotten that deep into the analysis. We want Fox too, we want to make for a smooth transition and have Fox settle into what they're doing. Certainly, they have the team at Fox has had a Themselves gone through this transition over time ramping up on the digital side and We will help them and continue to support their efforts to do that, give them some of our expertise And knowledge along the way to help them mature in that area and convert Leads to sales and starts and those types of things that we're we feel like we can help them with over time. But at this point, I wouldn't give you any insight in terms of long term what that may look like a year from now or 2 years from now. So premature. Speaker 400:24:46What I would add to that Jerry is that Fox does a really exceptional job in their marketing efforts. And There might be an opportunity to leverage Fox and the Rollins family of brands. And so I think that's really important to think about as you go forward. They do a really good job and we certainly want to leverage all the work that they do across their business to benefit us through this combination. Speaker 100:25:13Thank you. Operator00:25:18Thank you. The next question comes from Seth Weber from Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question, Seth. Speaker 700:25:25Hi. This is actually John filling in for Seth. Congratulations on the Just maybe quickly on the insurance and claims, could you give us some more color on really kind of how the headwind progressed The quarter as well as how we should think about the cost going forward this year? Thanks. Speaker 400:25:41Certainly can do that for you and appreciate the comments. Insurance and claims has been a bit of a headwind here for a period of time. I believe going back to last year In the Q3, we talked about that. This year, when we look at the experience in insurance claim and claims, there's 2 aspects to that experience. 1 or just higher insurance premiums. Speaker 400:26:02As you know, we had poor experience last year. And so unfortunately, we saw that come through with higher insurance Premiums in the Q1, that will carry through for the remainder of the year. The second part of it is we continue to see Some unfavorable experience in that area. We're ramping up our focus on behavioral based safety across the company and ensuring that we're making the right Investments in the areas that will help improve our performance in that area. But it's an area of focus for the company and we continue to focus on driving some Unfortunately, we do feel the negative impact of a tighter insurance market, however. Speaker 700:26:44Got it. That's great color. Thank you. And maybe quickly just as we think about the cadence of residential, especially with advertising and customer acquisition Sven, wrapping in the Q2 for the kind of peak season. Can you just give us a sense at a high level how you're thinking about the kind of pacing of residential? Speaker 700:27:01And Would it be fair to assume we could kind of see an acceleration from these levels or are you thinking more of a kind of steady state high single digit on an organic basis? Thanks. Speaker 400:27:13It's hard to provide an estimate on that as we think about the next quarter or 2. However, we feel like the investments we're making in our people and our technicians and our sales folks, the focus we're making on cross selling And driving cross sell and a wider share of wallet with each and every individual customer is paying off. And we feel very optimistic and bullish about our opportunity to continue to grow our position with our really important residential customers Into the future. Speaker 300:27:47Yes. This is Jerry. I would add, we're in a really good position to take advantage of strong demand in the marketplace As it's there. So we feel strong about our position to be able to capitalize on the potential for growth in the market. Operator00:28:22The next question comes from Grant Slade from Morningstar. Please proceed with your question, Grant. Speaker 600:28:28Hi, Gerry. Hi, Ken. Thank you both Very much for the additional detail on the Fox acquisition. It's very helpful. Just a point of clarification, however, if I may. Speaker 600:28:39I was just curious, the $18,000,000 to $22,000,000 in EBITDA contribution for this year, Does that include the full extent of cost synergies that you're expecting to realize from the deal? Or are there perhaps further synergies we should be expecting In 2024 or later? And I guess if so, the quantum of those and the timing would be helpful If you're able to share that detail with us. Speaker 400:29:07Yes. Thank you for the question. We feel like that's when we think about And we think about integration as we started the call. We certainly are taking a pragmatic approach with respect to synergies and synergy capture. We do think that this business will be accretive to our margins in the next 2 to 3 years. Speaker 400:29:29The first year is all about getting in and trying to understand what makes the business so valuable. We don't want to move too quickly, but we also don't want to move too slowly. But we do feel like that $18,000,000 to $22,000,000 is our best expectation or estimate of what we can deliver on the acquisition this year. Speaker 600:29:50Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:29:55Thank you. The next question comes from Adit Shrestha from Stifel. Please proceed with your question, Adit. Speaker 800:30:03Hi, good morning. This is Adam from Stifel. Thank you for taking my questions and congratulations on the strong quarter. So my first question is just relating to FOX Pest acquisition. How should the annual $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 sales, how should that be allocated across the lines of business? Speaker 800:30:21And what are the drivers that would get you to $100,000,000 versus that low end of $90,000,000 What are you actually building in? Speaker 100:30:28Why Speaker 400:30:32don't you handle it, Ken? Sure. And so when we look at that business, The breakdown is highly focused on residential. Large percentage of that business is the private sector and so that'll Come through our residential segment of our business. We feel like that $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 would probably come into our business Very similarly to how our business is reported. Speaker 400:31:00So Q2, you'll see a ramping from Q1 and then Q3 3, you'll see further ramping. That's just the seasonality of our business. We feel like there's opportunities to drive some outsized growth there, but I feel like this $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 is a very realistic estimate and is reflective of the growth trajectory, A strong growth trajectory that the business is already on. And so we feel like it's very realistic in Achieving that $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 this year as we think about the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:31:35Ken, if I may add, this is John Wilson. But if I may add, Retention is critical. And so that's why with these acquisitions, we don't go into look into RockTheWorld and go so carefully on the Integration and or assimilation, but Fox continuing their current path on the way they retain their customers And retain their employees, which are important to keep in those customers, will determine whether we get to the $100,000,000 versus the $90,000,000 Speaker 800:32:08All right. Thank you for that. And I have a follow-up regarding your incremental margins, pretty healthy 32%. How should we think about it for the remainder of the year? Can you maybe exceed that 32% with sort of the pricing actions and the cost cutting initiatives that you put in? Speaker 800:32:24Just like What's the impact of Fox best on that? Speaker 600:32:28Certainly. Thanks for the question. Speaker 400:32:31If you look at the last 9 months, the last 3 quarters if you will, going back to the second half of last year. We've consistently delivered an incremental margin, that's Approaching 30%. So we feel like we're positioned very well to deliver that 30% sort of incremental margin as we move forward. There's always challenges. There's always puts and there's takes. Speaker 400:32:53And there might be 1 quarter where you might be below that, but you might have 1 quarter where you exceed that. As I said in my prepared comments, The Q2, you're going to see a little bit more investment in customer acquisition cost. We see an opportunity to go after and get customers That are going to create long term value for our business. And so you'll probably see a little bit more investment, a little heavier investment comes through in that area as we think about the Q2, but we feel very good about long term value creation from those customers that will help us deliver That incremental margin profile of 30 plus percent. Operator00:33:34Thank you very much. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for closing remarks. Thank you. Speaker 300:33:42Well, thanks everyone for joining our call today. We look forward to giving you an update at the end of the second quarter on our next call. We'll see you then. Thank you. Operator00:33:54Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you very much for your participation.Read morePowered by