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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Cooper Companies EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.77Consensus EPS $0.76Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS$0.81Cooper Companies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$877.40 millionExpected Revenue$865.81 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$11.59 millionYoY Revenue Growth+5.70%Cooper Companies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date6/1/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, June 1, 2023Conference Call Time5:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Cooper Companies Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJune 1, 2023ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Record Q2 Performance: Consolidated revenue hit a quarterly high of $877 M with non-GAAP EPS of $3.08, exceeding expectations on both top and bottom lines. CooperVision’s Growth Trajectory: Achieved its 9th consecutive quarter of double-digit organic revenue growth, led by daily silicone hydrogel lenses, torics & multifocals, and strong regional performances (+6% Americas, +7% EMEA, +19% Asia-Pac). Myopia Management Momentum: Posted $30 M in myopia management revenues (up 36%) with MiSight up 49%, keeping the business on track to reach its $120 M–$130 M full-year target. CooperSurgical Strength: Delivered record fertility revenues of $125 M (up 11% organically) for its 10th straight quarter of double-digit growth, and OBGYN medical devices grew 11% organically. Raised FY23 Outlook: Increased full-year guidance to $3.51 B–$3.57 B in consolidated revenues (up 7%–9% organically) and non-GAAP EPS of $12.66–$12.96, supported by continued investments and strong market demand. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCooper Companies Q2 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Emma, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the CooperCompanies second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press the star one. We ask today that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Kim Duncan, VP of Investor Relations and Risk Management, you may begin your conference. Kim DuncanVP of Investor Relations and Risk Management at CooperCompanies00:00:42Good afternoon. Welcome to CooperCompanies second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. During today's call, we will discuss the results and guidance included in the earnings release and then use the remaining time for questions. Our presenters on today's call are Al White, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Brian Andrews, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements, including all revenue and earnings per share guidance and other statements regarding anticipated results of operations, market or regulatory conditions or trends, product launches, operational initiatives, regulatory submissions, and closing or integration of any acquisitions or their anticipated benefits. Forward-looking statements depend on assumptions, data, or methods that may be incorrect or imprecise and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Kim DuncanVP of Investor Relations and Risk Management at CooperCompanies00:01:34Events that could cause our actual results and future actions of the company to differ materially from those described in forward-looking statements are set forth under the caption Forward-Looking Statements in today's earnings release and are described in our SEC filings, including Cooper's Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filings, all of which are available on our website at coopercos.com. As a reminder, the non-GAAP financial information we will provide on this call is provided as a supplement to our GAAP information. We encourage you to consider our results under GAAP as well as non-GAAP, and refer to the reconciliations provided in our earnings release, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Should you have any additional questions following the call, please email ir@cooperco.com. Now I'll turn the call over to Al for his opening remarks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:02:25Great. Thank you, Kim, welcome everyone to CooperCompanies second quarter fiscal 2023 conference call. This was another strong quarter, with CooperVision and CooperSurgical both outperforming expectations. For CooperVision, we reported record quarterly revenues and our ninth consecutive quarter of double-digit organic revenue growth. For CooperSurgical, we reported record quarterly revenues, our fertility business reported its 10th consecutive quarter of double-digit organic revenue growth, and earnings exceeded expectations. Our teams are delivering impressive, consistent growth, we're seeing nice momentum, we remain very positive about the future. Moving to the numbers, consolidated revenue reached a record quarterly high of $877 million. CooperVision posted revenues of $589 million, up 10% organically, CooperSurgical posted revenues of $288 million, up 5% organically. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:03:23CooperVision's growth continues to be led by our daily silicone hydrogel and myopia management portfolios, and CooperSurgical's growth was led by our fertility and OBGYN medical device portfolios. Non-GAAP earnings per share were $3.08. For the quarter, and reporting all percentages on an organic basis, CooperVision's revenue growth was strong and diversified. By geography, the Americas grew 6%, EMEA grew 7%, and Asia-Pac grew 19%. Results were driven by new product launches, expanded product ranges, market-leading flexibility, and growth in key accounts. Within categories, torics and multifocals remain especially healthy, with both posting growth of 15%. Within modalities, daily silicone hydrogel lenses grew 17%, with especially strong performance from MyDay. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:04:16Daily silicone hydrogel lenses continue to be the main driver of growth for the contact lens industry, and we offer the broadest portfolio with MyDay and clariti available in a wide range of spheres, torics, and multifocals. Lastly, our silicone hydrogel monthly and two-week lenses, Biofinity and Avaira Vitality, reported growth of 5%. Turning to products, the U.S. rollout of our latest innovative offering, MyDay Energys, is going exceptionally well. This premium lens caters to the demands of today's lifestyles by incorporating DigitalBoost technology to alleviate the impacts of digital eye strain. Interestingly, we've been receiving a lot of positive feedback that patients in their 20s and 30s really like this lens, which is great news, as the original Biofinity Energys has been more heavily used by patients in their 40s. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:05:05Given almost all of us are spending considerably more time on screens, which reduces blinking and causes eyes to dry out and become uncomfortable, it's not surprising that wearers of all ages are appreciating the DigitalBoost in their MyDay Energys. Meanwhile, MyDay multifocal sales remain robust, and we're seeing great momentum in new geographies as the lens becomes more readily available in EMEA and Asia-Pac. I'm happy to report these launches are proceeding better than expected, with feedback from customers and practitioners remaining very positive. Our MyDay toric parameter expansion rollout in North America is also continuing successfully, and our recent launch in EMEA is ahead of schedule. Given the success of this product, we'll be increasing availability throughout EMEA, and we're looking forward to launching in Asia-Pac in the near future. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:05:53With almost 4,000 SKUs, MyDay toric has set the industry standard with the widest daily toric range in the market by a wide margin. With this broad range, it's providing many two-week and monthly toric wearers the option to enjoy the freedom of wearing a daily contact lens for the first time in their lives. To conclude on MyDay, this technologically superior product family is performing exceptionally well and momentum is strong. Lastly, within the daily segment, our clariti family of lenses continues to perform well by offering a high-quality option at a mass market price point. Outside of dailies, demand for Biofinity remains healthy, led by torics, multifocals, and extended range offerings. We still have some capacity challenges, but with new production continuing to come online, we remain in good shape to meet ongoing demand. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:06:44Moving to myopia management, we posted revenues of $30 million, up 36%, with MiSight up 49%. This slightly exceeded expectations and keeps us well on track to reach our goal of $120 million-$130 million this year. MiSight and Ortho-K sales were strong around the world, except China, where we didn't see a rebound until late in the quarter. Regarding MiSight specifically, we're seeing improving performance as we increase availability in key accounts, target practices with higher levels of pediatric patient flow, and integrate the sales process into our regular sales channel. All this bodes well for MiSight, but also for our other products, as there's a nice halo effect with MiSight practitioners accelerating their use of other CooperVision lenses. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:07:29It's important to remember that MiSight is the first and only FDA-approved contact lens for myopia control, and the product is backed by extensive clinical data. This is a critical differentiator as the proactive management of myopia becomes standard of care within the eye care community to help reduce the progression of myopia in children, along with reducing the risk of long-term eye health problems associated with myopia, such as cataracts, retinal detachment, and macular degeneration. To finish on CooperVision, the contact lens market grew 12% in calendar Q1, with CooperVision growing faster at 14%. We expect the market to remain healthy, supported by the macro growth trend of more people needing vision correction. It's estimated that 50% of the global population will have myopia or nearsightedness by the year 2050, up from roughly 34% today. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:08:24This is driven by the increasing use of digital screens, among other factors. When you combine this with the ongoing shift to silicone hydrogel dailies, the increasing focus on higher value products such as torics and multifocals and higher pricing, we expect many years of solid growth for the industry. Within this, we expect CooperVision to remain a leader with its robust product portfolio, ongoing product launches, fast-growing myopia management business, and leading new fit data. Moving to CooperSurgical, this was another strong quarter. Our fertility business posted sales of $125 million, up 11% organically for its 10th consecutive quarter of double-digit organic growth. Success was seen throughout the product portfolio, as the team executed exceptionally well with our diverse offerings within consumables, capital equipment, reproductive genetic testing, and donor activity. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:09:17Regionally, the Americas and EMEA continue to lead growth, and the future is bright as we have solid momentum in both regions. Asia-Pac is also performing well, and we're excited about the potential of that region. With the uncertainty of the Cook transaction, we do have work to do in that region to build out our footprint, and we'll do that. In this light, we're currently doing targeted investment activity while also exploring ways we can advance efforts more quickly. Overall, though, we're well positioned to maintain success given our strong team, diverse portfolio, and global momentum. Regarding the broader fertility market, we compete in a segment that's now over $2 billion in annual sales, and we expect strong growth for many years to come. This industry is unique in that it has multiple growth drivers, starting with women delaying childbirth. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:10:03The average age of a woman's first birth in the U.S. and within several other developed countries now stands at 30 years old, and age is a key factor in contributing to the need for fertility assistance. Other growth drivers include improving access to treatment, increasing patient awareness, increasing fertility benefits coverage, and technology improvements for both male and female infertility challenges. The World Health Organization just released updated data showing that the prevalence of infertility affects more people than we thought, with approximately one in six people having experienced infertility at some stage in their lives. The macro trends clearly support this industry's growth. Moving to office and surgical products, which includes OBGYN medical devices, stem cell storage, and Paragard, we posted sales of $163 million, up 1% organically. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:10:57Within this, OBGYN medical devices reported excellent results, growing 11%, driven by positive trends in patient activity and strength in several core products. In particular, our labor and delivery group continued performing really well. Our stem cell storage business grew 3%, in line with expectations. Our current educational campaign, which is starring Chrissy Teigen, highlights the importance of preserving newborn stem cells, and we're really happy with the positive feedback, and we're looking forward to that effort gaining more traction. Paragard declined 15%, primarily due to buy-in activity from the price increase in Q1. Our IUD revenues remain a challenge, and we're continuing to not expect any unit growth in Paragard this year, so any growth we do see will be driven by price. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:11:48To conclude on CooperSurgical, it's with great pride that we say that every minute, somewhere around the world, a baby is born using CooperSurgical products. Our business makes a difference in people's lives, and we love that. We're also operating in several markets that have fantastic long-term sustainable growth characteristics, such as fertility, so we feel good about where we're positioned and what the future holds. Before turning the call over to Brian, let me summarize by saying this quarter really highlights the stability and consistency of our businesses. CooperVision posted its ninth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth, and CooperSurgical's fertility business posted its tenth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth, and both businesses reported record quarterly revenue. Our momentum is strong, our investments are yielding solid returns, and our management team is fully engaged and executing at a high level. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:12:40Lastly, I hope everyone has had a chance to read our recent ESG report, which highlights a lot of accomplishments. Advancing our ESG efforts is an important part of Cooper's culture, and I'm proud of the success we've had and excited about what we'll be accomplishing in the future. With that, let me turn the call over to Brian. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:12:58Thank you, Al, good afternoon, everyone. Most of my commentary will be on a non-GAAP basis, so please refer to our earnings release for a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results. Second quarter consolidated revenues were $877 million, up 6% as reported, or up 8% organically. Consolidated gross margin was up 40 basis points to 67.1%, driven by currency improvements. Operating expenses grew 9%- 43.5% of revenues, and consolidated operating margin was in line with expectations at 23.7%. This was down from 24.5% last year, primarily due to commercial investments and distribution. Below operating income, interest expense was $26 million, and the effective tax rate was 13.9%. Non-GAAP EPS was $3.08, with roughly 49.8 million average shares outstanding. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:14:00To summarize the P&L this quarter, revenues came in ahead of expectations, while margins met expectations. The net impact from non-operational items, such as FX, interest expense, and taxes, was slightly negative against our initial expectations. Overall, we exceeded our consolidated EPS expectations by roughly $0.06 and will pass along that in guidance. Free cash flow was $51 million, including CapEx of $74 million. Net debt decreased to $2.51 billion. During this last quarter, we fixed the interest rate on an additional $300 million of debt. We now have $1.3 billion fixed, going out roughly two to four years. Regarding 2023 guidance, we're increasing expectations for revenues and earnings by incorporating our Q2 revenue and earnings beats. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:15:03This results in consolidated revenues of $3.51 billion-$3.57 billion, up 7%-9% organically, with CooperVision revenues of $2.37 billion-$2.4 billion, up 8%-10% organically, and CooperSurgical revenues of $1.15 billion-$1.17 billion, up 5%-7% organically. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to be in a range of $12.66-$12.96. Interest expense is expected to be around $110 million, assuming another 25 basis point rate increase by the Fed this month, and the effective tax rate is forecasted to be slightly below 14.5% when incorporating Q2. Within this, we're continuing to invest in our businesses to support long-term growth objectives. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:16:00Demand across both businesses remains strong. The long-term growth trends are very positive. Before concluding, let me add that we took a $45 million charge this quarter for the breakage fee associated with the pending acquisition of Cook Medical's reproductive health business. We now believe it's probable that this transaction, as originally contemplated, does not close. We are still working on the deal, though. We'll provide updates as we have more information. In conclusion, this was another strong quarter. We're very happy with the consistency of our businesses. We have great momentum. We're closely monitoring expenses and will continue to do so. We're also investing to drive long-term sustainable revenue growth. We're taking guidance up again and remain positive we'll execute at a high level, delivering strong operating results through the back half of this year and into next year. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:17:00With that, I'll hand it back to the operator for questions. Operator00:17:05As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press star followed by the number one with your telephone keypad. Again, we ask today that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Jeff Johnson with Baird. Your line is open. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:25Thanks, guys. Good evening. Can you hear me okay? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:17:27Yep. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:17:27Hey, Jeff. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:29Hey, guys. Al, I know when we look at, like, the GfK data, that sellout data, you guys and everybody else kind of report sell-in data, so it's never apples to apples in that. I think it's pretty clear January was a very strong month for contact lenses. It really was across all of med tech. April, obviously a weaker month. Just maybe help us understand kind of the gating throughout the period of the quarter you just reported, February, March, April, and then maybe any updates on what you've been seeing so far in May. Just, you know, kind of the range of implied guidance for CVI, now kind of 6%-10% in the back half, just how you're feeling about the low end versus the high end of that range. Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:18:07Yeah, and you're right, January was a really strong month. As we worked through the quarter, it was okay. I mean, February was a good month, March. April was a weaker month for us. You can kind of see that, you know, if you look at the calendar quarter compared to the fiscal quarter for us, because we grew in the calendar quarter, 14%, and then grew 10% in the fiscal quarter, so when you trade those months up. You're right, April was a little weaker. May's been a good month. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:18:36We did have a little, some stuff move kind of from April into May. May's been a good month for us. We've seen the contact lens marketplace, at least for our business, rebound in the month of May. That's been a positive. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:18:49Okay. Then maybe just as a follow-up, you know, if you can address that CVI guidance that's implied in the back half to 6%-10%, just kind of high end, low end, where your confidence is there. The real follow-up question I wanted to ask was on pricing. It seems, you know, talking to Alcon and some of your other competitors, looking at some of the pricing data we have for your lenses, there's a good price tailwind this year, forming probably 2-3 points, something like that. Is that about the ballpark you're expecting? Secularly or longer term, you know, how comfortable are you if we stay in a persistent inflationary environment, that you can maybe keep up 2%, 3% pricing a year for the next few years? Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:19:27Sure. I think you're spot on. I think that 2%-3% net pricing, I'm talking about net pricing, is the way to look at it. The actual pricing that we've seen out there has been higher. The actual price increases has been higher, but if you look at the rebates and everything else, 2%-3% is probably a good way to look at it right now. I think that's gonna continue. I think that we're probably a little bit behind our competitors in that, because we do have a lot of large contracts, especially, some of the bigger store brand contracts that, are multi-year contracts. As those renew, we'll look at opportunities to adjust pricing on those. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:20:02I think that you're seeing that now, and frankly, I think you're going to see that for the next several years, given supply constraints within the industry in general. If I look at our performance in the kind of back half of the year, the 6%-10% you're talking about for CooperVision, I expect to be at the higher end of that range, unless something happens to derail that. It'd have to be something unexpected, right? Some economic event or something out there. I mean, we spent some time this past week, it's been a little bit of a tough time for us, coming up with some of the guidance and so forth, with the debt ceiling and all the other activity that has been going on here recently. No, we have good momentum. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:20:40I feel optimistic that we'll continue to put up strong revenue numbers. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:20:45Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:20:46Yep. Operator00:20:47Your next question comes from the line of Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:20:54All right, thanks for taking the question. Congrats on the nice quarter. Al, can you hear me okay? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:21:00Yep, I can hear you. Hello. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:21:02Yeah. Hey, yeah, I guess I'll ask the question on the guidance first here. You know, the top line, you know, you raised the top line and the bottom line by the amount of the beat in the quarter. I guess, you know, I would think FX was a little more favorable, particularly on EPS. Brian, maybe you could help us with that bridge, you know, how much currency changed, you know, from last quarter to this quarter for fiscal 2023? I guess the question is, why, you know, why not raise by a little more than the beat? I had one follow-up. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:21:37Larry, I'll take that, the currency question. You know, currency is starting to move in our favor as we were working through the quarter, and then they retrace. I mean, there was a little bit of positive, very little positive, to the P&L from revenues down to OI. Really, the impact that we saw in the quarter was a negative, tied to our FX losses below the line. We have, as we talked about before, you know, we're hedging some of our material currencies, but we still have several currencies and smaller exposures that we're not hedging. So we had a loss below the line. That took our earnings down to $3.08. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:22:17It would've been a little bit better, but, you know, we basically adjusted for the currency in the quarter. The impact for the second half of the year for currency, strangely or interestingly enough, kind of all netted to being sort of the same. We're still looking at a 2.5%, roughly 2.5% headwind to revenues for the year and, you know, kind of a weaker 1% tailwind to EPS for the year. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:22:42Why, you know, not raised by more than the beat? Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:22:48On EPS? Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:22:50Yeah. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:22:51Well, we raised by, the operational, the net beat. With everything, as Al just said, with the macro uncertainty, Fed FX recession, you know, we just decided, you know, look, we're exercising prudence and setting guidance. The good news is that, you know, we're not seeing demand or behavior shifts, and, you know, and since gross and operating margins fell in as expected and things are progressing, we're just exercising some caution in light of the macro. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:23:20That's helpful. Just Al, on my follow-up here, Asia-Pac, plus 19%, really strong. myopia management, if I heard correctly, the $30 million, up 5%-- $5 million, I'm sorry, sequentially. That was one of the strongest, you know, sequential growth, we, you know, absolute growth, increases we've seen in a while. Just talk about the drivers, you know, in Asia-Pac and myopia management and the sustainability. Thanks a lot. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:23:49Yep. Yeah, interesting, on myopia management, it was a good quarter. We're gaining some traction there on my side, finally. We've talked about it for a long time. It's great to finally gaining some real traction. Interestingly, it was not China. We actually struggled in China with MiSight this quarter until the very end of the quarter. The MiSight was being driven by success, here in the U.S. and throughout Europe, were big drivers in some of the markets in Asia-Pac. I think we're in good shape with our myopia management business. I'm expecting, you know, Q3 to be a good quarter, Q4 to be a good quarter. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:24:22As I was saying, we're certainly in good shape to hit, if not beat our $120 million-$130 million, quote, unquote, "guidance range" for myopia management. Asia-Pac, we're in good shape. I would say Asia-Pac, China being a little bit different if I look at our regular lenses, that it was more of a contributor in terms of our regular sales. No, Kathy's doing a great job running that business, and we finally have some momentum going in Asia-Pac, and I think we're gonna continue to put up good quarters as we move through the back half of this year. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:24:58Thanks for taking the questions. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:24:59Yep. Operator00:25:02Your next question comes from the line of Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Your line is open. Joanne WuenschManaging Director at Citi00:25:09Good evening. Thank you for taking the question. Can we pick apart Paragard a little bit? I wanna make sure that I understand what's going on there. Is this another setup where you've got four quarters of, you know, pricing headwinds, and then you start to grow again? How do I think about that? Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:25:28No, great question. No, it won't be that way. I would expect Paragard to grow here in Q3 and Q4, and for us to kind of put up low single-digit growth, probably for this year. We did have the tough quarter here, Q2, obviously, but some of that was tied to kind of inventory in the channel, some of that kind of movement around the price increase. I wouldn't necessarily read too much into that. I would kind of restate what I've said in some of the prior quarters. We're not envisioning unit growth there, but I still think we'll post an okay Q3, okay Q4, and post growth for the full year. Joanne WuenschManaging Director at Citi00:26:05Excluding Paragard, is there a way to describe how the rest of that business is doing? Because that was pretty much the only weak link in the quarter. Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:26:14Well, obviously, fertility, really strong. That team's doing an amazing job, consistent, strong performance, and it's really diversified around the world and by products, or product family. Fertility is in good shape. We should continue to do well in fertility. Our med device business is doing really well, kind of our traditional OBGYN medical devices. We've seen some strength there in the labor and delivery side, and some of our surgical products doing really well. I mean, outside of Paragard, that was a pretty good quarter. I mean, Holly's got that business humming over at CooperSurgical, so expecting them to continue to put up good results. Joanne WuenschManaging Director at Citi00:26:52Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:26:53Yep. Operator00:26:55Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Petrone with Mizuho. Your line is open. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:27:03Thanks. Thanks again, and maybe just a couple clarifying on Paragard. Can you remind us, Al, just the price increase that was put in earlier in the year and the extent of the volume declines, I guess, through the first two quarters of the year? That would be my first question. Then maybe just in terms of overall share in contact lenses, at least according to our numbers, it looked like certainly there was gains for Cooper and torics, as well as multifocals, but perhaps maybe a little bit of slippage in dailies. Just looking at the fiscal at +8%, and it looked like competitor data for dailies was a little bit higher than that. Just an overview on the share trends through May in lenses. Thanks again. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:27:50Sure. Sure, Anthony. The Paragard price increase, I think, was 6% that we put in place. Yeah, from a volume perspective, I don't know if I'd highlight necessarily too much on volume. What you're seeing here in Q1 and the quarter we just had, frankly, you'll see a little bit here in kind of Q3, is tied more to channel inventory, whether it's through the distributor or down actually into the physician's office. You're seeing some fluctuations in that driving our as-reported results. I think if you look through that, which I try to do, right, say, regardless of inventory, how are we looking at actual volume? That's where volume's been flat. Like, we just haven't really seen those increases, I'm not anticipating that we're going to here in the near term. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:28:35Again, I said it last quarter, I'd say it again, I hope I'm wrong on that and being conservative, as of right now, I think that's where we, where we stand with Paragard. Again, a lot of movement tied to inventory, I do think that we'll get growth in Q3 and Q4, to be clear, and that I do think we'll post some low single-digit growth in Paragard for the full year. On contact lenses, yeah, I mean, this was a great quarter. If you look at it and you kind of step back and you say, you know, Biofinity and Avaira grew 5%, you can see our non-single-use sphere, other grew 2%. That's what you're getting to, Anthony, right? Which is kind of the sphere side of things. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:29:13We did have a couple larger Biofinity orders that fell from April into May. You had quite a bit of Biofinity sphere activity there. I wouldn't read too much into that. I mean, if you're thinking about a quarter end, yes, that number came in a little bit lighter. We'll pick that up because we started off Q3 with a good quarter or good from a good perspective when you look at that part of our business. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:29:43Very helpful. Thanks. I'll get back in queue. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:29:45Yep. Operator00:29:47Your next question comes from the line of Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:29:54Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Wanted to start with free cash flow and cash flow generation in general. It's been a little low the past few quarters. Maybe speak to. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:30:06... the reasons behind it and how you're thinking about cash flow generation going forward? Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:30:11Hi, Robbie. Yeah, sure. Operating cash flow continued to drive higher. We do have some things that are driving free cash flow a little lower. One of them, obviously, is CapEx. It's quite a bit higher than in years past. Some other larger components that are driving it, you know, that are having an impact downwards are, frankly, interest. I mean, our interest expense is going from, you know, doubling from $53 million-$110 million last year to this year. Taxes, you know, over the course of it, depending on what time horizon you're looking at, our tax rates keep going up. You know, our inventory levels from last year to this year also are going higher, that's having an impact as well. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:30:56Overall, I mean, our operating cash flow continues to be strong and, you know, expect to deliver still, you know, strong free cash flow for this year. Just, you know, offsetting, obviously, the operating cash flow is just the higher CapEx, which we've been talking about, you know, around $400 million this year. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:31:15Great. Maybe on new fits, you talked about strong global new fits. Are you seeing any divergence in different regions? Just trying to get a sense of the future of the business and the trends there. Thanks a lot. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:31:34From a new fit perspective, no, not really. In terms of regional, we're seeing pretty good activity there. There's still a lot of demand on optometrists for appointments and so forth, and the new fit activity is pretty strong. Our CooperVision new fit activity is looking really good right now. We're winning, certainly, our fair share when it comes to new fits, so I'm pretty optimistic from that perspective. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:32:01Great. Thanks a lot. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:32:03Yep. Operator00:32:04Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Mishan with KeyBanc. Your line is open. Brett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:32:11Hey, guys, this is Brett on today for Matt. Thanks so much for taking the questions. Just wanted to ask a little bit about the trends in Europe, given, you know, how robust, you know, several of the historical quarters looked. A little bit of a deceleration here. Just wondering if there was anything driving that step down. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:32:28Hey, Brett. We're number one in Europe when it comes to contact lenses. We get a fantastic franchise there that team's done a great job, not only building up our infrastructure, if you will, around a lot of the independent optometrists, but also with some of the key accounts where we're especially strong. No, I think that the European market is doing well. We have not seen a pullback in that market, tied to any economic concerns or anything. The contact lens market is strong there, and we're kind of leading the charge, if you will, and I think we'll continue to do that. Brett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:33:05All right, thank you. Just turning to MiSight, it sounded like, you know, trends in Americas, in retailing key accounts was actually the driver of the step up this quarter. You know, do you see potential maybe to drive some upside to that guidance range, given China is now, it seems like it's starting to recover and might actually be, like, an incremental driver to, the positivity you're seeing in the Americas? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:33:28I guess the short answer to that would be yes. Yep, we're in a better spot when it comes to MiSight today than we were six months ago when we initiated that 120-130. I think we've got a good shot to be at the higher end of that range or even push above it. Brett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:33:45All right, awesome. Then last question from me. I think you touched on, you know, some of the continued supply chains in the industry being a positive driver for pricing growth. I was wondering if, you know, there are any pockets of particular issues from other companies that might be benefiting Cooper, given the investments you've been making in, you know, your own production. Thanks very much for taking the questions. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:34:07Yeah, you know, that's a tough one. I don't think there's too much there in terms of disruption from others. There are supply chain challenges, I think, that we all have right now. Our competitors do, and we do, too, in terms of just being able to produce enough product. I mean, in a lot of cases, I think a lot of us are selling everything that we can make right now. Not only are we dealing with, you know, whatever supply chain issues you could have associated with distribution and everything else, and all those are certainly lightening up, but we're also dealing with demand. I mean, I'll talk about ourselves, right? We're a business that's been healthy for a long time, growing around 7%, now we pushed up, what? Our ninth straight quarter, double-digit growth. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:34:48You know, that puts pressure on the business in terms of having to make more product and run more product through your distribution channels. There's just a natural challenge on that from a supply chain perspective. I think it's industry-wide, and we're all gonna continue to deal with it because I think we're all increasing our production capabilities and kind of expanding our capabilities throughout our logistics networks. It takes time, it takes effort, and the demand is there, right? We're gonna continue to see strength in the contact lens industry. I don't think you're seeing too much in terms of one person struggling so much that someone else is picking up business, as much as you're seeing supply chain issues or challenges just because of the global demand of the contact lens industry. Operator00:35:32Your next question comes from the line of Jason Bednar with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:35:45Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. you know, Al, I wanted to ask on Biofinity toric. We've been hearing of some greater channel inventory shifts from a competing toric lens to Biofinity toric. I know this has been going on for a while, but, you know, are you able to quantify, or do you have any metrics around, you know, maybe what kind of share you've picked up with Biofinity toric? How much this is maybe adding to the toric revenue growth is pretty impressive in the quarter. Again, sorry to pack a few into here, but how much tail is left? Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:36:13... you know, from this conversion to toric and whether or not you're seeing any, again, channel inventory shift, with toric or even more broadly? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:36:24Yeah, you know, there's probably something there, but I just don't put too much weight on it, honestly. I mean, we've had some competitors pull back a little bit on some of their SKU ranges, and we have those SKU ranges. As a matter of fact, our Biofinity toric family is the widest toric offering out there. When you roll in things like the toric multifocal and so forth, I mean, it's just an amazing franchise right now. We've been building that franchise out for a number of years. We spent a lot of time and a lot of money on the manufacturing side and also on our distribution network to be able to manufacture and distribute all those products in a wide SKU range. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:37:01Do I think that we're maybe getting a little bit of help because some competitors or a competitor has pulled back on some of their SKU ranges? You know, yeah, probably. This isn't coming because of, like, one quarter or an action that somebody took. This is coming because of a multi-year strategy that CooperVision has deployed to drive growth in our torics. You know what I mean? Jerry Warner runs that business for us, does a fantastic job. He's just laid out a great strategy there in terms of torics and multifocals, appreciating that the market is growing. That portion of the market is growing faster than the sphere market, and it's a really sticky and great market. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:37:39I mean, we've, again, invested a lot of time and money for a lot of years to be in the position we're in. I give the team a lot more credit around that activity than I do saying that a small movement by a competitor is allowing us to take a lot of share. Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:37:54Okay, that's helpful. Maybe if you can just in the follow-up here, comment on whether or not you're seeing any share shift or... Sorry, not share shift, but inventory shift in the channel at all. Separate follow-up, actually wanted to ask another one on Paragard here. I think you've probably tried every which way to get this product line to grow. We've seen different advertising, sales representations, greater commercial focus. The effect here has been tough. Does there come a point where you'd look to evaluate different options for Paragard? Or maybe, better said, than the strategic and financial fit, still make maybe this a good asset for Cooper? Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:38:31Yeah, on the channel inventory side, I'd say we probably ended our fiscal quarter a little light on channel inventory. I kind of referenced that a little bit with some of the Biofinity shipments, but I'd say we were probably a little lighter from a channel inventory perspective. Nothing to go crazy about, but, you know, since you're asking. On Paragard, yeah, you know, boy, we bought that, we put some money into it. I think we've gotten a great return on that asset. Having said that, we put some money into it. We put some TV advertising out there and a lot of different marketing campaigns and so forth to really try to energize the non-hormonal IUD market. We had some success on that, not a ton. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:39:13You kind of get to where you're at today, there's some fundamental shifts in the market that are causing challenges for us. You know, you're not seeing women go into their gynecologist as much as they were pre-COVID for kind of annual wellness exams and so forth. As that's happened, combined with the fact that a lot of birth control options, especially birth control pills, the availability has increased or the ease, if you will, to get that birth control has improved. It's hurt the IUD market, and it's hurt Paragard. You know, we're evaluating that like we always do right now. I mean, that's a good product. It does okay in the marketplace, right? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:39:53It's a decent fit in terms of our women's healthcare franchise, but we'll always evaluate that just like we do everything else in terms of kind of our long-term strategic planning. Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:40:05Very helpful. Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:40:06Yep. Operator00:40:07Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Block with Stifel. Your line is open. Jonathan BlockManaging Director at Stifel00:40:13Great. Thanks, guys. Good afternoon. A really good quarter, just despite the top line beat, you came in a little bit hot on OpEx as a percent of sales relative to our estimate. You know, if I look at sort of fiscal 1H 2023, I think OpEx as a percent of sales, you might be up roughly 100 basis points from last year. Brian, I think you mentioned some investments. Is that CVI? Is that CSI? You know, where are those investments being made, and does that sort of remain front and center for the next couple of quarters until sort of you lap them, call it, exiting fiscal 2023, and we can think about recapturing leverage into fiscal 2024? Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:40:52Good question. Thanks, Jon. I mean, I'd say the total OpEx dollars came in kind of where we expected, along with our gross and operating margin results. You know, we continue to invest in commercial activities, including sales and marketing, tied to the product launches and the rollouts that Al mentioned in his prepared remarks. You know, we had also continued fertility investments, and that includes kind of building out, you know, more of our competencies in various regions like Asia-Pac. Lastly, I mean, we still have inefficiencies that we expected in distribution that were higher year-over-year. Al just mentioned sort of the, you know, the challenges that we have when revenues continue to drive higher and the strain it puts on distribution. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:41:34We're working through those challenges, and, you know, I'd say total OpEx, again, landed where we expected, but our real focus is on driving operating margin expansion. Like, I've said before in the last call, and I'll say it again here, you know, our operating margin at the midpoint of our constant currency revenue guide, we're expecting, you know, constant currency OI growth of around 11%. You know, as long as, you know, we're driving that operating margin expansion, and that's in this year, driven in large part from gross margin expansion, then we're putting up a leverage P&L. You know, that's the goal for this year. Jonathan BlockManaging Director at Stifel00:42:13... Got it. Fair enough. Maybe just to shift gears, and now this one might be with you, for you, but, you know, within APAC, I know you're overweight to Japan, but sort of wanna take the opportunity to ask what you're seeing in China, you know, the slope of the business of late. I just think there's been a lot of headline, noise, news, and so just would love to get your thoughts on what you're seeing on the ground, you know, in that sort of April into May timeframe. Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:42:40Sure. We've seen some improvements in China, I mean, China kind of even now, comes and goes a little bit. When you look at it from our perspective, it's probably two different stories, right? You have our regular contact lens business there, the retail side, if you will, which we've seen some traction on, and we've seen some improving results. You have the myopia management side, which is MiSight, also a lot of Ortho-K that gets sold through the hospital. That's a different channel. I do think that we're seeing some improvements in that channel, in the hospital channel, which is actually gonna help us a little bit on Ortho-K and MiSight. The other side, the retail, the general population, if you will, kind of comes and goes a little bit. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:43:22Having said that, Jon, remember, that's a pretty small market for us. I mean, some of our competitors have much bigger shares in China than what we have. Jonathan BlockManaging Director at Stifel00:43:32Perfect. Thanks for the color, guys. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:43:36Yep. Operator00:43:36Your next question comes from the line of Steven Lichtman with Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Ron FeinerEquity Research Associate at Oppenheimer00:43:42Hi, guys. This is Ron on for Steve. I wanted to ask you guys about SightGlass a little bit. What is your estimate for the approval timing? With MiSight being in the field for a bit now, how are you thinking about how SightGlass will be positioned in the field versus it? Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:44:00No real update on SightGlass when it comes to regulatory approval here. Waiting to receive the final four-year data and compile that, and then take next steps. Nothing really to add from that perspective. As you know, we've got a great partnership with EssilorLuxottica on that product, and the product's been launched in many markets around the world, and it's selling, and it's doing well. That's within the joint venture itself. I continue to be really optimistic about that product long term, but that is within that joint venture, not in our P&L, other than the investment activity, gains or losses below the line. When it comes to MiSight and how that looks, I mean, to me, glasses are going to do nothing but be a positive for the myopia control market. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:44:45We want people getting into myopia control. They need to be wearing the product, so children need to be wearing those glasses. Compliance is really important. As children get into myopia control, let's say they do that a lot at five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, certainly as they get to become teenagers and certainly anyone who has compliance as an issue, you're going to want to be moving to contact lenses. Anything that we can do to drive the myopia control market forward and increase it is a positive for us, positive for MiSight, positive for the industry. Ron FeinerEquity Research Associate at Oppenheimer00:45:20Thanks. That's really helpful. I guess sort of a follow-up on that. You guys mentioned that the headwinds on myopia in China are kind of abating towards the end of the quarter. Can you say what changed? Like, towards the end, what was the shift? Because China's been a headwind on myopia for a little bit. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:45:40Yeah, it's really those products are sold through the hospital channel. You need the hospitals to kind of open up, and have more kind of, if you will, availability for children and so forth. You need to transition back to a more traditional, normal hospital environment, within China. I think that's what we're seeing right now, right? As COVID starts to get in the rear view mirror, and you're getting patients going back into the hospital for more traditional needs and so forth, you're opening up some space for optometry, and that's helping with the fittings. Ron FeinerEquity Research Associate at Oppenheimer00:46:15Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:46:16Yep. Operator00:46:18Your next question comes from the line of Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Patrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:46:24Amazing. Thank you very much. Two left for me, please. I guess the first one is on the fertility side, maybe just zooming out. If we just hypothetically say, Cook doesn't close, you know, how committed are you to APAC as a region? You know, you hinted by saying maybe some accelerated pathway to growing there. I'm just curious if you could put a little bit of meat on the bone to how you feel about the region, how critical that is for you and fertility going forward. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:46:52That's a really good question. That is an important region. We are going to invest in that region. We are right now, we're going to continue to invest there. One of the primary reasons we were doing the Cook transaction was for growth in that region. There's a number of markets there that are really, really strong fertility markets. I mean, really strong growth rates. We have a solid presence, I think, in parts of that region, like Australia and so forth. There's a number of countries where we don't have a presence or the presence is pretty small. We need to hire some people, build out some infrastructure there. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:47:26We're evaluating that activity right now, because when you look at our business as a leader in the space, right, and as well as we do with our broad portfolio in the Americas and throughout Europe and in parts of Asia-Pac, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to build out infrastructure and continue to drive growth there. That's a matter of, you know, the typical thing we do as a company, which is evaluate those opportunities, look at the return metrics associated with them, because you do have inefficiencies anytime you're building out infrastructure in a new region like that. We're going through the process and evaluating all that activity right now. Patrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:48:01Amazing. Then one more, which is, I was really interested around MiSight and the positive halo effect of selling in the rest of your offering. I mean, is that more a function of MiSight opening the door in the first place, where there isn't a relationship because it's such a unique offering and then being able to sell more in? Or is it more about incremental depth with accounts where you already have that relationship? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:48:24That's a really good point, because you're right. There's a lot of optometry offices where they're much stronger with some of our competitors, to the point where they might just use competitor products and not our products. MiSight has cracked open the door in a number of those accounts. It's gotten our people in there, and all of a sudden, we're able to have conversations about products like MyDay, as an example, and about our extended toric ranges and so forth. It's opened the door, and it's continuing to open the door into more new opportunities for us. I do think there are some, in terms of existing accounts, where we're going in with an innovative product, right? They can kind of see the technology advancements, and they get more comfortable with Cooper. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:49:07you're spot on. I would not discount the importance of kind of virgin Cooper stores, if you will, where we can go in there and finally start selling some of our core products. Patrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:49:17Really helpful. Thank you for taking the questions. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:49:19Yep. Operator00:49:20Your next question comes from the line of David Saxon with Needham. Your line is open. David SaxonSenior Analyst at Needham00:49:27Thanks for taking the questions, and congrats on the quarter. Maybe I'll ask, too, on CooperSurgical, starting with Paragard. I mean, I heard the comments about flat volume growth, and you talked about some of the market dynamics. Do you think Paragard can return to seeing volume growth over time, or is this, you know, flat volume growth more of a longer-term expectation and kind of pricing is really the key driver, you know, over the long term? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:49:58My gut tells me, depending upon how you define long term, but certainly for the coming years here, that volume is going to be flat. I think when you look at the availability of other offerings, the ease of availability and the additional offerings that are out there, now, those are on the hormonal side, but when you look at the birth control market out there, I think the volumes for IUDs and Paragard are gonna be flat for a little while here. David SaxonSenior Analyst at Needham00:50:27Okay, got it. Then on in fertility, I just wanted to hear what you're seeing in terms of new fertility clinic openings, you know, trends there, and any way to size how much of fertility growth is driven by, like, de novo clinics opening up and kind of how big of an opportunity that is for you guys. Thanks so much. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:50:50Yeah, the new fertility clinics is kind of a phenomena outside of the U.S., if you will. You're definitely seeing more of that activity in some of the Asia-Pac and some parts of Europe. You're seeing kind of consistent opening of new fertility clinics. The numbers aren't that huge in the end of the day, you know, but they're big enough to continue to drive growth because we see some of that in our capital equipment sales. Obviously, you know, that's a great part of our business. Anytime you can get capital equipment in, you got the consumables following afterwards. I'm not sure I've looked at it in terms of quantifying it because it hasn't been a spike or anything. It's been consistent here for probably the last four or five years. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:51:32Even through COVID, we were seeing new clinics continuing to open up. I guess I would probably answer that by saying, you know, the fertility industry, I keep talking about, like, 5%-10%, but obviously, it's grown, you know, more towards the upper end of that, certainly. Embedded within that is new fertility clinics opening, and I would envision the number of new clinics that we've been seeing open over the last five years or something, to continue on a very similar pace, probably for the next five years. David SaxonSenior Analyst at Needham00:52:03Great. Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:52:04Yep. Operator00:52:06Your last question today comes from the line of Anthony Petrone with Mizuho. Your line is open. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:52:13Hey, just wanted a follow-up on Cook. Apologies if I missed it, just had another call there. Yeah, maybe just. It sounds like it's certainly the probability is lower, but there's still efforts to find a resolution. Maybe a little bit on just where the process sits and probability for close. Under a scenario where it does not close, there was an $875 million commitment, and maybe just thoughts on where CooperSurgical M&A activity can go from here if this deal does not close. Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:52:47Sure. Yeah, just a quick recap on Cook. We did take the $45 million hit to the P&L. We accrued for it this quarter because the original transaction that we discussed is, frankly, it's probably not gonna happen. That $45 million would get paid under that scenario at the beginning of August. That's where we sit with that transaction today. You're exactly right. We are talking with Cook. We have a great relationship. They're a great group of people there. We've continued to have conversations with them to see if there's some transaction that we could still do. I would certainly say with respect to that transaction, the likelihood is that we'll pay that $45 million. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:53:27You're right, it was a big number, $875 million that we had committed on that transaction. Right now, the focus, the kind of capital focus, if you will, is very similar to what it's been over the last couple of years. You know, we're gonna look at paying down debt. We're gonna look at acquisitions, if they make sense. They got to be strategic, accretive acquisitions that fit well into what we want to accomplish at CooperSurgical or CooperVision. That'll probably continue, right? There's nothing wrong with paying down some debt either. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:53:58Thanks again. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:54:00Yep. Operator00:54:02This concludes the question and answer session for today. I turn the call back to Al for closing remarks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:54:07Great. Thank you. Thank you everyone for joining today. We appreciate the time. As I mentioned, we're pretty proud of where we're at. We had a good quarter, and things are starting off, well this quarter, so we're well-positioned, and, look forward to getting together again in three months and, updating everyone after our next quarter. Thanks again. Operator00:54:28This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesBrian AndrewsCFO and TreasurerAnalystsAl WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompaniesAnthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at MizuhoBrett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsDavid SaxonSenior Analyst at NeedhamJason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper SandlerJeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at BairdJoanne WuenschManaging Director at CitiJonathan BlockManaging Director at StifelKim DuncanVP of Investor Relations and Risk Management at CooperCompaniesLarry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells FargoPatrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan StanleyRobbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorganRon FeinerEquity Research Associate at OppenheimerPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Cooper Companies Earnings HeadlinesCooper Companies (COO) Bets on Fertility Growth Despite Weakness in CooperVision3 hours ago | finance.yahoo.comThe Cooper Companies (NASDAQ: COO) Scrutinized Over U.S. Channel Inventory Reductions Driving Stock Sharply Lower -- HBSSSeptember 12 at 3:00 PM | globenewswire.comGold led me to Mount RushmoreA small miner just hit on gold in the hills surrounding Mount Rushmore, thanks to a breakthrough new technology. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Emma, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the CooperCompanies second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press the star one. We ask today that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Kim Duncan, VP of Investor Relations and Risk Management, you may begin your conference. Kim DuncanVP of Investor Relations and Risk Management at CooperCompanies00:00:42Good afternoon. Welcome to CooperCompanies second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. During today's call, we will discuss the results and guidance included in the earnings release and then use the remaining time for questions. Our presenters on today's call are Al White, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Brian Andrews, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements, including all revenue and earnings per share guidance and other statements regarding anticipated results of operations, market or regulatory conditions or trends, product launches, operational initiatives, regulatory submissions, and closing or integration of any acquisitions or their anticipated benefits. Forward-looking statements depend on assumptions, data, or methods that may be incorrect or imprecise and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Kim DuncanVP of Investor Relations and Risk Management at CooperCompanies00:01:34Events that could cause our actual results and future actions of the company to differ materially from those described in forward-looking statements are set forth under the caption Forward-Looking Statements in today's earnings release and are described in our SEC filings, including Cooper's Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filings, all of which are available on our website at coopercos.com. As a reminder, the non-GAAP financial information we will provide on this call is provided as a supplement to our GAAP information. We encourage you to consider our results under GAAP as well as non-GAAP, and refer to the reconciliations provided in our earnings release, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Should you have any additional questions following the call, please email ir@cooperco.com. Now I'll turn the call over to Al for his opening remarks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:02:25Great. Thank you, Kim, welcome everyone to CooperCompanies second quarter fiscal 2023 conference call. This was another strong quarter, with CooperVision and CooperSurgical both outperforming expectations. For CooperVision, we reported record quarterly revenues and our ninth consecutive quarter of double-digit organic revenue growth. For CooperSurgical, we reported record quarterly revenues, our fertility business reported its 10th consecutive quarter of double-digit organic revenue growth, and earnings exceeded expectations. Our teams are delivering impressive, consistent growth, we're seeing nice momentum, we remain very positive about the future. Moving to the numbers, consolidated revenue reached a record quarterly high of $877 million. CooperVision posted revenues of $589 million, up 10% organically, CooperSurgical posted revenues of $288 million, up 5% organically. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:03:23CooperVision's growth continues to be led by our daily silicone hydrogel and myopia management portfolios, and CooperSurgical's growth was led by our fertility and OBGYN medical device portfolios. Non-GAAP earnings per share were $3.08. For the quarter, and reporting all percentages on an organic basis, CooperVision's revenue growth was strong and diversified. By geography, the Americas grew 6%, EMEA grew 7%, and Asia-Pac grew 19%. Results were driven by new product launches, expanded product ranges, market-leading flexibility, and growth in key accounts. Within categories, torics and multifocals remain especially healthy, with both posting growth of 15%. Within modalities, daily silicone hydrogel lenses grew 17%, with especially strong performance from MyDay. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:04:16Daily silicone hydrogel lenses continue to be the main driver of growth for the contact lens industry, and we offer the broadest portfolio with MyDay and clariti available in a wide range of spheres, torics, and multifocals. Lastly, our silicone hydrogel monthly and two-week lenses, Biofinity and Avaira Vitality, reported growth of 5%. Turning to products, the U.S. rollout of our latest innovative offering, MyDay Energys, is going exceptionally well. This premium lens caters to the demands of today's lifestyles by incorporating DigitalBoost technology to alleviate the impacts of digital eye strain. Interestingly, we've been receiving a lot of positive feedback that patients in their 20s and 30s really like this lens, which is great news, as the original Biofinity Energys has been more heavily used by patients in their 40s. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:05:05Given almost all of us are spending considerably more time on screens, which reduces blinking and causes eyes to dry out and become uncomfortable, it's not surprising that wearers of all ages are appreciating the DigitalBoost in their MyDay Energys. Meanwhile, MyDay multifocal sales remain robust, and we're seeing great momentum in new geographies as the lens becomes more readily available in EMEA and Asia-Pac. I'm happy to report these launches are proceeding better than expected, with feedback from customers and practitioners remaining very positive. Our MyDay toric parameter expansion rollout in North America is also continuing successfully, and our recent launch in EMEA is ahead of schedule. Given the success of this product, we'll be increasing availability throughout EMEA, and we're looking forward to launching in Asia-Pac in the near future. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:05:53With almost 4,000 SKUs, MyDay toric has set the industry standard with the widest daily toric range in the market by a wide margin. With this broad range, it's providing many two-week and monthly toric wearers the option to enjoy the freedom of wearing a daily contact lens for the first time in their lives. To conclude on MyDay, this technologically superior product family is performing exceptionally well and momentum is strong. Lastly, within the daily segment, our clariti family of lenses continues to perform well by offering a high-quality option at a mass market price point. Outside of dailies, demand for Biofinity remains healthy, led by torics, multifocals, and extended range offerings. We still have some capacity challenges, but with new production continuing to come online, we remain in good shape to meet ongoing demand. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:06:44Moving to myopia management, we posted revenues of $30 million, up 36%, with MiSight up 49%. This slightly exceeded expectations and keeps us well on track to reach our goal of $120 million-$130 million this year. MiSight and Ortho-K sales were strong around the world, except China, where we didn't see a rebound until late in the quarter. Regarding MiSight specifically, we're seeing improving performance as we increase availability in key accounts, target practices with higher levels of pediatric patient flow, and integrate the sales process into our regular sales channel. All this bodes well for MiSight, but also for our other products, as there's a nice halo effect with MiSight practitioners accelerating their use of other CooperVision lenses. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:07:29It's important to remember that MiSight is the first and only FDA-approved contact lens for myopia control, and the product is backed by extensive clinical data. This is a critical differentiator as the proactive management of myopia becomes standard of care within the eye care community to help reduce the progression of myopia in children, along with reducing the risk of long-term eye health problems associated with myopia, such as cataracts, retinal detachment, and macular degeneration. To finish on CooperVision, the contact lens market grew 12% in calendar Q1, with CooperVision growing faster at 14%. We expect the market to remain healthy, supported by the macro growth trend of more people needing vision correction. It's estimated that 50% of the global population will have myopia or nearsightedness by the year 2050, up from roughly 34% today. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:08:24This is driven by the increasing use of digital screens, among other factors. When you combine this with the ongoing shift to silicone hydrogel dailies, the increasing focus on higher value products such as torics and multifocals and higher pricing, we expect many years of solid growth for the industry. Within this, we expect CooperVision to remain a leader with its robust product portfolio, ongoing product launches, fast-growing myopia management business, and leading new fit data. Moving to CooperSurgical, this was another strong quarter. Our fertility business posted sales of $125 million, up 11% organically for its 10th consecutive quarter of double-digit organic growth. Success was seen throughout the product portfolio, as the team executed exceptionally well with our diverse offerings within consumables, capital equipment, reproductive genetic testing, and donor activity. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:09:17Regionally, the Americas and EMEA continue to lead growth, and the future is bright as we have solid momentum in both regions. Asia-Pac is also performing well, and we're excited about the potential of that region. With the uncertainty of the Cook transaction, we do have work to do in that region to build out our footprint, and we'll do that. In this light, we're currently doing targeted investment activity while also exploring ways we can advance efforts more quickly. Overall, though, we're well positioned to maintain success given our strong team, diverse portfolio, and global momentum. Regarding the broader fertility market, we compete in a segment that's now over $2 billion in annual sales, and we expect strong growth for many years to come. This industry is unique in that it has multiple growth drivers, starting with women delaying childbirth. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:10:03The average age of a woman's first birth in the U.S. and within several other developed countries now stands at 30 years old, and age is a key factor in contributing to the need for fertility assistance. Other growth drivers include improving access to treatment, increasing patient awareness, increasing fertility benefits coverage, and technology improvements for both male and female infertility challenges. The World Health Organization just released updated data showing that the prevalence of infertility affects more people than we thought, with approximately one in six people having experienced infertility at some stage in their lives. The macro trends clearly support this industry's growth. Moving to office and surgical products, which includes OBGYN medical devices, stem cell storage, and Paragard, we posted sales of $163 million, up 1% organically. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:10:57Within this, OBGYN medical devices reported excellent results, growing 11%, driven by positive trends in patient activity and strength in several core products. In particular, our labor and delivery group continued performing really well. Our stem cell storage business grew 3%, in line with expectations. Our current educational campaign, which is starring Chrissy Teigen, highlights the importance of preserving newborn stem cells, and we're really happy with the positive feedback, and we're looking forward to that effort gaining more traction. Paragard declined 15%, primarily due to buy-in activity from the price increase in Q1. Our IUD revenues remain a challenge, and we're continuing to not expect any unit growth in Paragard this year, so any growth we do see will be driven by price. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:11:48To conclude on CooperSurgical, it's with great pride that we say that every minute, somewhere around the world, a baby is born using CooperSurgical products. Our business makes a difference in people's lives, and we love that. We're also operating in several markets that have fantastic long-term sustainable growth characteristics, such as fertility, so we feel good about where we're positioned and what the future holds. Before turning the call over to Brian, let me summarize by saying this quarter really highlights the stability and consistency of our businesses. CooperVision posted its ninth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth, and CooperSurgical's fertility business posted its tenth consecutive quarter of double-digit growth, and both businesses reported record quarterly revenue. Our momentum is strong, our investments are yielding solid returns, and our management team is fully engaged and executing at a high level. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:12:40Lastly, I hope everyone has had a chance to read our recent ESG report, which highlights a lot of accomplishments. Advancing our ESG efforts is an important part of Cooper's culture, and I'm proud of the success we've had and excited about what we'll be accomplishing in the future. With that, let me turn the call over to Brian. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:12:58Thank you, Al, good afternoon, everyone. Most of my commentary will be on a non-GAAP basis, so please refer to our earnings release for a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results. Second quarter consolidated revenues were $877 million, up 6% as reported, or up 8% organically. Consolidated gross margin was up 40 basis points to 67.1%, driven by currency improvements. Operating expenses grew 9%- 43.5% of revenues, and consolidated operating margin was in line with expectations at 23.7%. This was down from 24.5% last year, primarily due to commercial investments and distribution. Below operating income, interest expense was $26 million, and the effective tax rate was 13.9%. Non-GAAP EPS was $3.08, with roughly 49.8 million average shares outstanding. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:14:00To summarize the P&L this quarter, revenues came in ahead of expectations, while margins met expectations. The net impact from non-operational items, such as FX, interest expense, and taxes, was slightly negative against our initial expectations. Overall, we exceeded our consolidated EPS expectations by roughly $0.06 and will pass along that in guidance. Free cash flow was $51 million, including CapEx of $74 million. Net debt decreased to $2.51 billion. During this last quarter, we fixed the interest rate on an additional $300 million of debt. We now have $1.3 billion fixed, going out roughly two to four years. Regarding 2023 guidance, we're increasing expectations for revenues and earnings by incorporating our Q2 revenue and earnings beats. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:15:03This results in consolidated revenues of $3.51 billion-$3.57 billion, up 7%-9% organically, with CooperVision revenues of $2.37 billion-$2.4 billion, up 8%-10% organically, and CooperSurgical revenues of $1.15 billion-$1.17 billion, up 5%-7% organically. Non-GAAP EPS is expected to be in a range of $12.66-$12.96. Interest expense is expected to be around $110 million, assuming another 25 basis point rate increase by the Fed this month, and the effective tax rate is forecasted to be slightly below 14.5% when incorporating Q2. Within this, we're continuing to invest in our businesses to support long-term growth objectives. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:16:00Demand across both businesses remains strong. The long-term growth trends are very positive. Before concluding, let me add that we took a $45 million charge this quarter for the breakage fee associated with the pending acquisition of Cook Medical's reproductive health business. We now believe it's probable that this transaction, as originally contemplated, does not close. We are still working on the deal, though. We'll provide updates as we have more information. In conclusion, this was another strong quarter. We're very happy with the consistency of our businesses. We have great momentum. We're closely monitoring expenses and will continue to do so. We're also investing to drive long-term sustainable revenue growth. We're taking guidance up again and remain positive we'll execute at a high level, delivering strong operating results through the back half of this year and into next year. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:17:00With that, I'll hand it back to the operator for questions. Operator00:17:05As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press star followed by the number one with your telephone keypad. Again, we ask today that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Jeff Johnson with Baird. Your line is open. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:25Thanks, guys. Good evening. Can you hear me okay? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:17:27Yep. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:17:27Hey, Jeff. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:17:29Hey, guys. Al, I know when we look at, like, the GfK data, that sellout data, you guys and everybody else kind of report sell-in data, so it's never apples to apples in that. I think it's pretty clear January was a very strong month for contact lenses. It really was across all of med tech. April, obviously a weaker month. Just maybe help us understand kind of the gating throughout the period of the quarter you just reported, February, March, April, and then maybe any updates on what you've been seeing so far in May. Just, you know, kind of the range of implied guidance for CVI, now kind of 6%-10% in the back half, just how you're feeling about the low end versus the high end of that range. Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:18:07Yeah, and you're right, January was a really strong month. As we worked through the quarter, it was okay. I mean, February was a good month, March. April was a weaker month for us. You can kind of see that, you know, if you look at the calendar quarter compared to the fiscal quarter for us, because we grew in the calendar quarter, 14%, and then grew 10% in the fiscal quarter, so when you trade those months up. You're right, April was a little weaker. May's been a good month. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:18:36We did have a little, some stuff move kind of from April into May. May's been a good month for us. We've seen the contact lens marketplace, at least for our business, rebound in the month of May. That's been a positive. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:18:49Okay. Then maybe just as a follow-up, you know, if you can address that CVI guidance that's implied in the back half to 6%-10%, just kind of high end, low end, where your confidence is there. The real follow-up question I wanted to ask was on pricing. It seems, you know, talking to Alcon and some of your other competitors, looking at some of the pricing data we have for your lenses, there's a good price tailwind this year, forming probably 2-3 points, something like that. Is that about the ballpark you're expecting? Secularly or longer term, you know, how comfortable are you if we stay in a persistent inflationary environment, that you can maybe keep up 2%, 3% pricing a year for the next few years? Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:19:27Sure. I think you're spot on. I think that 2%-3% net pricing, I'm talking about net pricing, is the way to look at it. The actual pricing that we've seen out there has been higher. The actual price increases has been higher, but if you look at the rebates and everything else, 2%-3% is probably a good way to look at it right now. I think that's gonna continue. I think that we're probably a little bit behind our competitors in that, because we do have a lot of large contracts, especially, some of the bigger store brand contracts that, are multi-year contracts. As those renew, we'll look at opportunities to adjust pricing on those. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:20:02I think that you're seeing that now, and frankly, I think you're going to see that for the next several years, given supply constraints within the industry in general. If I look at our performance in the kind of back half of the year, the 6%-10% you're talking about for CooperVision, I expect to be at the higher end of that range, unless something happens to derail that. It'd have to be something unexpected, right? Some economic event or something out there. I mean, we spent some time this past week, it's been a little bit of a tough time for us, coming up with some of the guidance and so forth, with the debt ceiling and all the other activity that has been going on here recently. No, we have good momentum. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:20:40I feel optimistic that we'll continue to put up strong revenue numbers. Jeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:20:45Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:20:46Yep. Operator00:20:47Your next question comes from the line of Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:20:54All right, thanks for taking the question. Congrats on the nice quarter. Al, can you hear me okay? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:21:00Yep, I can hear you. Hello. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:21:02Yeah. Hey, yeah, I guess I'll ask the question on the guidance first here. You know, the top line, you know, you raised the top line and the bottom line by the amount of the beat in the quarter. I guess, you know, I would think FX was a little more favorable, particularly on EPS. Brian, maybe you could help us with that bridge, you know, how much currency changed, you know, from last quarter to this quarter for fiscal 2023? I guess the question is, why, you know, why not raise by a little more than the beat? I had one follow-up. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:21:37Larry, I'll take that, the currency question. You know, currency is starting to move in our favor as we were working through the quarter, and then they retrace. I mean, there was a little bit of positive, very little positive, to the P&L from revenues down to OI. Really, the impact that we saw in the quarter was a negative, tied to our FX losses below the line. We have, as we talked about before, you know, we're hedging some of our material currencies, but we still have several currencies and smaller exposures that we're not hedging. So we had a loss below the line. That took our earnings down to $3.08. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:22:17It would've been a little bit better, but, you know, we basically adjusted for the currency in the quarter. The impact for the second half of the year for currency, strangely or interestingly enough, kind of all netted to being sort of the same. We're still looking at a 2.5%, roughly 2.5% headwind to revenues for the year and, you know, kind of a weaker 1% tailwind to EPS for the year. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:22:42Why, you know, not raised by more than the beat? Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:22:48On EPS? Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:22:50Yeah. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:22:51Well, we raised by, the operational, the net beat. With everything, as Al just said, with the macro uncertainty, Fed FX recession, you know, we just decided, you know, look, we're exercising prudence and setting guidance. The good news is that, you know, we're not seeing demand or behavior shifts, and, you know, and since gross and operating margins fell in as expected and things are progressing, we're just exercising some caution in light of the macro. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:23:20That's helpful. Just Al, on my follow-up here, Asia-Pac, plus 19%, really strong. myopia management, if I heard correctly, the $30 million, up 5%-- $5 million, I'm sorry, sequentially. That was one of the strongest, you know, sequential growth, we, you know, absolute growth, increases we've seen in a while. Just talk about the drivers, you know, in Asia-Pac and myopia management and the sustainability. Thanks a lot. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:23:49Yep. Yeah, interesting, on myopia management, it was a good quarter. We're gaining some traction there on my side, finally. We've talked about it for a long time. It's great to finally gaining some real traction. Interestingly, it was not China. We actually struggled in China with MiSight this quarter until the very end of the quarter. The MiSight was being driven by success, here in the U.S. and throughout Europe, were big drivers in some of the markets in Asia-Pac. I think we're in good shape with our myopia management business. I'm expecting, you know, Q3 to be a good quarter, Q4 to be a good quarter. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:24:22As I was saying, we're certainly in good shape to hit, if not beat our $120 million-$130 million, quote, unquote, "guidance range" for myopia management. Asia-Pac, we're in good shape. I would say Asia-Pac, China being a little bit different if I look at our regular lenses, that it was more of a contributor in terms of our regular sales. No, Kathy's doing a great job running that business, and we finally have some momentum going in Asia-Pac, and I think we're gonna continue to put up good quarters as we move through the back half of this year. Larry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo00:24:58Thanks for taking the questions. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:24:59Yep. Operator00:25:02Your next question comes from the line of Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Your line is open. Joanne WuenschManaging Director at Citi00:25:09Good evening. Thank you for taking the question. Can we pick apart Paragard a little bit? I wanna make sure that I understand what's going on there. Is this another setup where you've got four quarters of, you know, pricing headwinds, and then you start to grow again? How do I think about that? Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:25:28No, great question. No, it won't be that way. I would expect Paragard to grow here in Q3 and Q4, and for us to kind of put up low single-digit growth, probably for this year. We did have the tough quarter here, Q2, obviously, but some of that was tied to kind of inventory in the channel, some of that kind of movement around the price increase. I wouldn't necessarily read too much into that. I would kind of restate what I've said in some of the prior quarters. We're not envisioning unit growth there, but I still think we'll post an okay Q3, okay Q4, and post growth for the full year. Joanne WuenschManaging Director at Citi00:26:05Excluding Paragard, is there a way to describe how the rest of that business is doing? Because that was pretty much the only weak link in the quarter. Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:26:14Well, obviously, fertility, really strong. That team's doing an amazing job, consistent, strong performance, and it's really diversified around the world and by products, or product family. Fertility is in good shape. We should continue to do well in fertility. Our med device business is doing really well, kind of our traditional OBGYN medical devices. We've seen some strength there in the labor and delivery side, and some of our surgical products doing really well. I mean, outside of Paragard, that was a pretty good quarter. I mean, Holly's got that business humming over at CooperSurgical, so expecting them to continue to put up good results. Joanne WuenschManaging Director at Citi00:26:52Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:26:53Yep. Operator00:26:55Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Petrone with Mizuho. Your line is open. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:27:03Thanks. Thanks again, and maybe just a couple clarifying on Paragard. Can you remind us, Al, just the price increase that was put in earlier in the year and the extent of the volume declines, I guess, through the first two quarters of the year? That would be my first question. Then maybe just in terms of overall share in contact lenses, at least according to our numbers, it looked like certainly there was gains for Cooper and torics, as well as multifocals, but perhaps maybe a little bit of slippage in dailies. Just looking at the fiscal at +8%, and it looked like competitor data for dailies was a little bit higher than that. Just an overview on the share trends through May in lenses. Thanks again. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:27:50Sure. Sure, Anthony. The Paragard price increase, I think, was 6% that we put in place. Yeah, from a volume perspective, I don't know if I'd highlight necessarily too much on volume. What you're seeing here in Q1 and the quarter we just had, frankly, you'll see a little bit here in kind of Q3, is tied more to channel inventory, whether it's through the distributor or down actually into the physician's office. You're seeing some fluctuations in that driving our as-reported results. I think if you look through that, which I try to do, right, say, regardless of inventory, how are we looking at actual volume? That's where volume's been flat. Like, we just haven't really seen those increases, I'm not anticipating that we're going to here in the near term. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:28:35Again, I said it last quarter, I'd say it again, I hope I'm wrong on that and being conservative, as of right now, I think that's where we, where we stand with Paragard. Again, a lot of movement tied to inventory, I do think that we'll get growth in Q3 and Q4, to be clear, and that I do think we'll post some low single-digit growth in Paragard for the full year. On contact lenses, yeah, I mean, this was a great quarter. If you look at it and you kind of step back and you say, you know, Biofinity and Avaira grew 5%, you can see our non-single-use sphere, other grew 2%. That's what you're getting to, Anthony, right? Which is kind of the sphere side of things. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:29:13We did have a couple larger Biofinity orders that fell from April into May. You had quite a bit of Biofinity sphere activity there. I wouldn't read too much into that. I mean, if you're thinking about a quarter end, yes, that number came in a little bit lighter. We'll pick that up because we started off Q3 with a good quarter or good from a good perspective when you look at that part of our business. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:29:43Very helpful. Thanks. I'll get back in queue. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:29:45Yep. Operator00:29:47Your next question comes from the line of Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:29:54Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Wanted to start with free cash flow and cash flow generation in general. It's been a little low the past few quarters. Maybe speak to. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:30:06... the reasons behind it and how you're thinking about cash flow generation going forward? Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:30:11Hi, Robbie. Yeah, sure. Operating cash flow continued to drive higher. We do have some things that are driving free cash flow a little lower. One of them, obviously, is CapEx. It's quite a bit higher than in years past. Some other larger components that are driving it, you know, that are having an impact downwards are, frankly, interest. I mean, our interest expense is going from, you know, doubling from $53 million-$110 million last year to this year. Taxes, you know, over the course of it, depending on what time horizon you're looking at, our tax rates keep going up. You know, our inventory levels from last year to this year also are going higher, that's having an impact as well. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:30:56Overall, I mean, our operating cash flow continues to be strong and, you know, expect to deliver still, you know, strong free cash flow for this year. Just, you know, offsetting, obviously, the operating cash flow is just the higher CapEx, which we've been talking about, you know, around $400 million this year. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:31:15Great. Maybe on new fits, you talked about strong global new fits. Are you seeing any divergence in different regions? Just trying to get a sense of the future of the business and the trends there. Thanks a lot. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:31:34From a new fit perspective, no, not really. In terms of regional, we're seeing pretty good activity there. There's still a lot of demand on optometrists for appointments and so forth, and the new fit activity is pretty strong. Our CooperVision new fit activity is looking really good right now. We're winning, certainly, our fair share when it comes to new fits, so I'm pretty optimistic from that perspective. Robbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorgan00:32:01Great. Thanks a lot. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:32:03Yep. Operator00:32:04Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Mishan with KeyBanc. Your line is open. Brett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:32:11Hey, guys, this is Brett on today for Matt. Thanks so much for taking the questions. Just wanted to ask a little bit about the trends in Europe, given, you know, how robust, you know, several of the historical quarters looked. A little bit of a deceleration here. Just wondering if there was anything driving that step down. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:32:28Hey, Brett. We're number one in Europe when it comes to contact lenses. We get a fantastic franchise there that team's done a great job, not only building up our infrastructure, if you will, around a lot of the independent optometrists, but also with some of the key accounts where we're especially strong. No, I think that the European market is doing well. We have not seen a pullback in that market, tied to any economic concerns or anything. The contact lens market is strong there, and we're kind of leading the charge, if you will, and I think we'll continue to do that. Brett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:33:05All right, thank you. Just turning to MiSight, it sounded like, you know, trends in Americas, in retailing key accounts was actually the driver of the step up this quarter. You know, do you see potential maybe to drive some upside to that guidance range, given China is now, it seems like it's starting to recover and might actually be, like, an incremental driver to, the positivity you're seeing in the Americas? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:33:28I guess the short answer to that would be yes. Yep, we're in a better spot when it comes to MiSight today than we were six months ago when we initiated that 120-130. I think we've got a good shot to be at the higher end of that range or even push above it. Brett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:33:45All right, awesome. Then last question from me. I think you touched on, you know, some of the continued supply chains in the industry being a positive driver for pricing growth. I was wondering if, you know, there are any pockets of particular issues from other companies that might be benefiting Cooper, given the investments you've been making in, you know, your own production. Thanks very much for taking the questions. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:34:07Yeah, you know, that's a tough one. I don't think there's too much there in terms of disruption from others. There are supply chain challenges, I think, that we all have right now. Our competitors do, and we do, too, in terms of just being able to produce enough product. I mean, in a lot of cases, I think a lot of us are selling everything that we can make right now. Not only are we dealing with, you know, whatever supply chain issues you could have associated with distribution and everything else, and all those are certainly lightening up, but we're also dealing with demand. I mean, I'll talk about ourselves, right? We're a business that's been healthy for a long time, growing around 7%, now we pushed up, what? Our ninth straight quarter, double-digit growth. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:34:48You know, that puts pressure on the business in terms of having to make more product and run more product through your distribution channels. There's just a natural challenge on that from a supply chain perspective. I think it's industry-wide, and we're all gonna continue to deal with it because I think we're all increasing our production capabilities and kind of expanding our capabilities throughout our logistics networks. It takes time, it takes effort, and the demand is there, right? We're gonna continue to see strength in the contact lens industry. I don't think you're seeing too much in terms of one person struggling so much that someone else is picking up business, as much as you're seeing supply chain issues or challenges just because of the global demand of the contact lens industry. Operator00:35:32Your next question comes from the line of Jason Bednar with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:35:45Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. you know, Al, I wanted to ask on Biofinity toric. We've been hearing of some greater channel inventory shifts from a competing toric lens to Biofinity toric. I know this has been going on for a while, but, you know, are you able to quantify, or do you have any metrics around, you know, maybe what kind of share you've picked up with Biofinity toric? How much this is maybe adding to the toric revenue growth is pretty impressive in the quarter. Again, sorry to pack a few into here, but how much tail is left? Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:36:13... you know, from this conversion to toric and whether or not you're seeing any, again, channel inventory shift, with toric or even more broadly? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:36:24Yeah, you know, there's probably something there, but I just don't put too much weight on it, honestly. I mean, we've had some competitors pull back a little bit on some of their SKU ranges, and we have those SKU ranges. As a matter of fact, our Biofinity toric family is the widest toric offering out there. When you roll in things like the toric multifocal and so forth, I mean, it's just an amazing franchise right now. We've been building that franchise out for a number of years. We spent a lot of time and a lot of money on the manufacturing side and also on our distribution network to be able to manufacture and distribute all those products in a wide SKU range. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:37:01Do I think that we're maybe getting a little bit of help because some competitors or a competitor has pulled back on some of their SKU ranges? You know, yeah, probably. This isn't coming because of, like, one quarter or an action that somebody took. This is coming because of a multi-year strategy that CooperVision has deployed to drive growth in our torics. You know what I mean? Jerry Warner runs that business for us, does a fantastic job. He's just laid out a great strategy there in terms of torics and multifocals, appreciating that the market is growing. That portion of the market is growing faster than the sphere market, and it's a really sticky and great market. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:37:39I mean, we've, again, invested a lot of time and money for a lot of years to be in the position we're in. I give the team a lot more credit around that activity than I do saying that a small movement by a competitor is allowing us to take a lot of share. Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:37:54Okay, that's helpful. Maybe if you can just in the follow-up here, comment on whether or not you're seeing any share shift or... Sorry, not share shift, but inventory shift in the channel at all. Separate follow-up, actually wanted to ask another one on Paragard here. I think you've probably tried every which way to get this product line to grow. We've seen different advertising, sales representations, greater commercial focus. The effect here has been tough. Does there come a point where you'd look to evaluate different options for Paragard? Or maybe, better said, than the strategic and financial fit, still make maybe this a good asset for Cooper? Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:38:31Yeah, on the channel inventory side, I'd say we probably ended our fiscal quarter a little light on channel inventory. I kind of referenced that a little bit with some of the Biofinity shipments, but I'd say we were probably a little lighter from a channel inventory perspective. Nothing to go crazy about, but, you know, since you're asking. On Paragard, yeah, you know, boy, we bought that, we put some money into it. I think we've gotten a great return on that asset. Having said that, we put some money into it. We put some TV advertising out there and a lot of different marketing campaigns and so forth to really try to energize the non-hormonal IUD market. We had some success on that, not a ton. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:39:13You kind of get to where you're at today, there's some fundamental shifts in the market that are causing challenges for us. You know, you're not seeing women go into their gynecologist as much as they were pre-COVID for kind of annual wellness exams and so forth. As that's happened, combined with the fact that a lot of birth control options, especially birth control pills, the availability has increased or the ease, if you will, to get that birth control has improved. It's hurt the IUD market, and it's hurt Paragard. You know, we're evaluating that like we always do right now. I mean, that's a good product. It does okay in the marketplace, right? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:39:53It's a decent fit in terms of our women's healthcare franchise, but we'll always evaluate that just like we do everything else in terms of kind of our long-term strategic planning. Jason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler00:40:05Very helpful. Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:40:06Yep. Operator00:40:07Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Block with Stifel. Your line is open. Jonathan BlockManaging Director at Stifel00:40:13Great. Thanks, guys. Good afternoon. A really good quarter, just despite the top line beat, you came in a little bit hot on OpEx as a percent of sales relative to our estimate. You know, if I look at sort of fiscal 1H 2023, I think OpEx as a percent of sales, you might be up roughly 100 basis points from last year. Brian, I think you mentioned some investments. Is that CVI? Is that CSI? You know, where are those investments being made, and does that sort of remain front and center for the next couple of quarters until sort of you lap them, call it, exiting fiscal 2023, and we can think about recapturing leverage into fiscal 2024? Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:40:52Good question. Thanks, Jon. I mean, I'd say the total OpEx dollars came in kind of where we expected, along with our gross and operating margin results. You know, we continue to invest in commercial activities, including sales and marketing, tied to the product launches and the rollouts that Al mentioned in his prepared remarks. You know, we had also continued fertility investments, and that includes kind of building out, you know, more of our competencies in various regions like Asia-Pac. Lastly, I mean, we still have inefficiencies that we expected in distribution that were higher year-over-year. Al just mentioned sort of the, you know, the challenges that we have when revenues continue to drive higher and the strain it puts on distribution. Brian AndrewsCFO and Treasurer at CooperCompanies00:41:34We're working through those challenges, and, you know, I'd say total OpEx, again, landed where we expected, but our real focus is on driving operating margin expansion. Like, I've said before in the last call, and I'll say it again here, you know, our operating margin at the midpoint of our constant currency revenue guide, we're expecting, you know, constant currency OI growth of around 11%. You know, as long as, you know, we're driving that operating margin expansion, and that's in this year, driven in large part from gross margin expansion, then we're putting up a leverage P&L. You know, that's the goal for this year. Jonathan BlockManaging Director at Stifel00:42:13... Got it. Fair enough. Maybe just to shift gears, and now this one might be with you, for you, but, you know, within APAC, I know you're overweight to Japan, but sort of wanna take the opportunity to ask what you're seeing in China, you know, the slope of the business of late. I just think there's been a lot of headline, noise, news, and so just would love to get your thoughts on what you're seeing on the ground, you know, in that sort of April into May timeframe. Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:42:40Sure. We've seen some improvements in China, I mean, China kind of even now, comes and goes a little bit. When you look at it from our perspective, it's probably two different stories, right? You have our regular contact lens business there, the retail side, if you will, which we've seen some traction on, and we've seen some improving results. You have the myopia management side, which is MiSight, also a lot of Ortho-K that gets sold through the hospital. That's a different channel. I do think that we're seeing some improvements in that channel, in the hospital channel, which is actually gonna help us a little bit on Ortho-K and MiSight. The other side, the retail, the general population, if you will, kind of comes and goes a little bit. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:43:22Having said that, Jon, remember, that's a pretty small market for us. I mean, some of our competitors have much bigger shares in China than what we have. Jonathan BlockManaging Director at Stifel00:43:32Perfect. Thanks for the color, guys. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:43:36Yep. Operator00:43:36Your next question comes from the line of Steven Lichtman with Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Ron FeinerEquity Research Associate at Oppenheimer00:43:42Hi, guys. This is Ron on for Steve. I wanted to ask you guys about SightGlass a little bit. What is your estimate for the approval timing? With MiSight being in the field for a bit now, how are you thinking about how SightGlass will be positioned in the field versus it? Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:44:00No real update on SightGlass when it comes to regulatory approval here. Waiting to receive the final four-year data and compile that, and then take next steps. Nothing really to add from that perspective. As you know, we've got a great partnership with EssilorLuxottica on that product, and the product's been launched in many markets around the world, and it's selling, and it's doing well. That's within the joint venture itself. I continue to be really optimistic about that product long term, but that is within that joint venture, not in our P&L, other than the investment activity, gains or losses below the line. When it comes to MiSight and how that looks, I mean, to me, glasses are going to do nothing but be a positive for the myopia control market. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:44:45We want people getting into myopia control. They need to be wearing the product, so children need to be wearing those glasses. Compliance is really important. As children get into myopia control, let's say they do that a lot at five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, certainly as they get to become teenagers and certainly anyone who has compliance as an issue, you're going to want to be moving to contact lenses. Anything that we can do to drive the myopia control market forward and increase it is a positive for us, positive for MiSight, positive for the industry. Ron FeinerEquity Research Associate at Oppenheimer00:45:20Thanks. That's really helpful. I guess sort of a follow-up on that. You guys mentioned that the headwinds on myopia in China are kind of abating towards the end of the quarter. Can you say what changed? Like, towards the end, what was the shift? Because China's been a headwind on myopia for a little bit. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:45:40Yeah, it's really those products are sold through the hospital channel. You need the hospitals to kind of open up, and have more kind of, if you will, availability for children and so forth. You need to transition back to a more traditional, normal hospital environment, within China. I think that's what we're seeing right now, right? As COVID starts to get in the rear view mirror, and you're getting patients going back into the hospital for more traditional needs and so forth, you're opening up some space for optometry, and that's helping with the fittings. Ron FeinerEquity Research Associate at Oppenheimer00:46:15Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:46:16Yep. Operator00:46:18Your next question comes from the line of Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Patrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:46:24Amazing. Thank you very much. Two left for me, please. I guess the first one is on the fertility side, maybe just zooming out. If we just hypothetically say, Cook doesn't close, you know, how committed are you to APAC as a region? You know, you hinted by saying maybe some accelerated pathway to growing there. I'm just curious if you could put a little bit of meat on the bone to how you feel about the region, how critical that is for you and fertility going forward. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:46:52That's a really good question. That is an important region. We are going to invest in that region. We are right now, we're going to continue to invest there. One of the primary reasons we were doing the Cook transaction was for growth in that region. There's a number of markets there that are really, really strong fertility markets. I mean, really strong growth rates. We have a solid presence, I think, in parts of that region, like Australia and so forth. There's a number of countries where we don't have a presence or the presence is pretty small. We need to hire some people, build out some infrastructure there. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:47:26We're evaluating that activity right now, because when you look at our business as a leader in the space, right, and as well as we do with our broad portfolio in the Americas and throughout Europe and in parts of Asia-Pac, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to build out infrastructure and continue to drive growth there. That's a matter of, you know, the typical thing we do as a company, which is evaluate those opportunities, look at the return metrics associated with them, because you do have inefficiencies anytime you're building out infrastructure in a new region like that. We're going through the process and evaluating all that activity right now. Patrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:48:01Amazing. Then one more, which is, I was really interested around MiSight and the positive halo effect of selling in the rest of your offering. I mean, is that more a function of MiSight opening the door in the first place, where there isn't a relationship because it's such a unique offering and then being able to sell more in? Or is it more about incremental depth with accounts where you already have that relationship? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:48:24That's a really good point, because you're right. There's a lot of optometry offices where they're much stronger with some of our competitors, to the point where they might just use competitor products and not our products. MiSight has cracked open the door in a number of those accounts. It's gotten our people in there, and all of a sudden, we're able to have conversations about products like MyDay, as an example, and about our extended toric ranges and so forth. It's opened the door, and it's continuing to open the door into more new opportunities for us. I do think there are some, in terms of existing accounts, where we're going in with an innovative product, right? They can kind of see the technology advancements, and they get more comfortable with Cooper. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:49:07you're spot on. I would not discount the importance of kind of virgin Cooper stores, if you will, where we can go in there and finally start selling some of our core products. Patrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:49:17Really helpful. Thank you for taking the questions. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:49:19Yep. Operator00:49:20Your next question comes from the line of David Saxon with Needham. Your line is open. David SaxonSenior Analyst at Needham00:49:27Thanks for taking the questions, and congrats on the quarter. Maybe I'll ask, too, on CooperSurgical, starting with Paragard. I mean, I heard the comments about flat volume growth, and you talked about some of the market dynamics. Do you think Paragard can return to seeing volume growth over time, or is this, you know, flat volume growth more of a longer-term expectation and kind of pricing is really the key driver, you know, over the long term? Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:49:58My gut tells me, depending upon how you define long term, but certainly for the coming years here, that volume is going to be flat. I think when you look at the availability of other offerings, the ease of availability and the additional offerings that are out there, now, those are on the hormonal side, but when you look at the birth control market out there, I think the volumes for IUDs and Paragard are gonna be flat for a little while here. David SaxonSenior Analyst at Needham00:50:27Okay, got it. Then on in fertility, I just wanted to hear what you're seeing in terms of new fertility clinic openings, you know, trends there, and any way to size how much of fertility growth is driven by, like, de novo clinics opening up and kind of how big of an opportunity that is for you guys. Thanks so much. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:50:50Yeah, the new fertility clinics is kind of a phenomena outside of the U.S., if you will. You're definitely seeing more of that activity in some of the Asia-Pac and some parts of Europe. You're seeing kind of consistent opening of new fertility clinics. The numbers aren't that huge in the end of the day, you know, but they're big enough to continue to drive growth because we see some of that in our capital equipment sales. Obviously, you know, that's a great part of our business. Anytime you can get capital equipment in, you got the consumables following afterwards. I'm not sure I've looked at it in terms of quantifying it because it hasn't been a spike or anything. It's been consistent here for probably the last four or five years. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:51:32Even through COVID, we were seeing new clinics continuing to open up. I guess I would probably answer that by saying, you know, the fertility industry, I keep talking about, like, 5%-10%, but obviously, it's grown, you know, more towards the upper end of that, certainly. Embedded within that is new fertility clinics opening, and I would envision the number of new clinics that we've been seeing open over the last five years or something, to continue on a very similar pace, probably for the next five years. David SaxonSenior Analyst at Needham00:52:03Great. Thank you. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:52:04Yep. Operator00:52:06Your last question today comes from the line of Anthony Petrone with Mizuho. Your line is open. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:52:13Hey, just wanted a follow-up on Cook. Apologies if I missed it, just had another call there. Yeah, maybe just. It sounds like it's certainly the probability is lower, but there's still efforts to find a resolution. Maybe a little bit on just where the process sits and probability for close. Under a scenario where it does not close, there was an $875 million commitment, and maybe just thoughts on where CooperSurgical M&A activity can go from here if this deal does not close. Thanks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:52:47Sure. Yeah, just a quick recap on Cook. We did take the $45 million hit to the P&L. We accrued for it this quarter because the original transaction that we discussed is, frankly, it's probably not gonna happen. That $45 million would get paid under that scenario at the beginning of August. That's where we sit with that transaction today. You're exactly right. We are talking with Cook. We have a great relationship. They're a great group of people there. We've continued to have conversations with them to see if there's some transaction that we could still do. I would certainly say with respect to that transaction, the likelihood is that we'll pay that $45 million. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:53:27You're right, it was a big number, $875 million that we had committed on that transaction. Right now, the focus, the kind of capital focus, if you will, is very similar to what it's been over the last couple of years. You know, we're gonna look at paying down debt. We're gonna look at acquisitions, if they make sense. They got to be strategic, accretive acquisitions that fit well into what we want to accomplish at CooperSurgical or CooperVision. That'll probably continue, right? There's nothing wrong with paying down some debt either. Anthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at Mizuho00:53:58Thanks again. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:54:00Yep. Operator00:54:02This concludes the question and answer session for today. I turn the call back to Al for closing remarks. Al WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompanies00:54:07Great. Thank you. Thank you everyone for joining today. We appreciate the time. As I mentioned, we're pretty proud of where we're at. We had a good quarter, and things are starting off, well this quarter, so we're well-positioned, and, look forward to getting together again in three months and, updating everyone after our next quarter. Thanks again. Operator00:54:28This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesBrian AndrewsCFO and TreasurerAnalystsAl WhitePresident and CEO at CooperCompaniesAnthony PetroneManaging Director of Equity Research at MizuhoBrett FishbinVP and Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsDavid SaxonSenior Analyst at NeedhamJason BednarManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at Piper SandlerJeff JohnsonSenior Research Analyst at BairdJoanne WuenschManaging Director at CitiJonathan BlockManaging Director at StifelKim DuncanVP of Investor Relations and Risk Management at CooperCompaniesLarry BiegelsenSenior Medical Device Equity Research Analyst at Wells FargoPatrick WoodManaging Director at Morgan StanleyRobbie MarcusSenior Analyst at JPMorganRon FeinerEquity Research Associate at OppenheimerPowered by