Universal Health Services Q4 2022 Earnings Report

Universal Health Services EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $3.02
• Consensus EPS: $2.96
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.06
• One Year Ago EPS: $2.95

Universal Health Services Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $3.45 billion
• Expected Revenue: $3.40 billion
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$50.49 million
• YoY Revenue Growth: +5.20%

Universal Health Services Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q4 2022
• Date: 2/27/2023
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2023
• Conference Call Time: 9:00AM ET

Universal Health Services (NYSE:UHS) (NYSE: UHS) is one of the largest diversified health care management companies in the United States, offering a broad spectrum of services through its acute care hospital and behavioral health segments. The company operates general acute care hospitals, surgical hospitals and ambulatory centers, as well as inpatient and outpatient behavioral health facilities. Its network provides emergency and specialized medicine, diagnostic imaging, laboratory services, advanced surgical care and rehabilitation, complemented by a comprehensive array of behavioral services including psychiatric treatment, addiction programs and developmental disabilities care.

In the acute care segment, UHS’s facilities deliver services ranging from emergency department treatment and intensive care to maternity care and outpatient surgery. Through its behavioral health operations, the company focuses on mental health stabilization, co-occurring disorder programs, and long-term rehabilitation for patients of all ages. Many of its locations also incorporate telehealth offerings and community-based programs designed to expand access to primary and behavioral health care.

Founded in 1979 by Alan B. Miller and headquartered in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, Universal Health Services has expanded its footprint to include more than 350 facilities across the United States and Puerto Rico, with select operations in the United Kingdom. Under the leadership of its founder and executive chairman, the company has pursued both organic growth and strategic acquisitions to enhance its clinical capabilities and geographic reach. UHS employs tens of thousands of health care professionals and support staff committed to delivering patient-focused care and operational excellence.

Universal Health Services Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Universal Health reported Q4 net income per diluted share of $2.43, or $3.02 adjusted after an impairment charge, driven largely by a Las Vegas acute care hospital write-down.
• The acute care segment saw fewer COVID cases (7% of admissions in Q4 2021 vs ~3.5% in Q4 2022) and a shift from inpatient to outpatient, leading to revenue softness that couldn’t fully offset wage inflation and premium pay, resulting in EBITDA below internal forecasts.
• The behavioral health segment benefited from reduced labor vacancies as COVID declined, which cut bed capping and allowed revenue gains to largely absorb higher labor costs, producing EBITDA in line with expectations despite ~$10 million of startup losses.
• Operating cash flow for Q4 was $297 million (down from $322 million in Q4 2021) amid new facility openings, and the company trimmed its capital expenditure pace, repurchased $811 million of shares in 2022, and has $886 million of revolving credit capacity.
• For 2023, UHS expects a gradual post-pandemic recovery in volumes and acuity, aims to reduce premium pay by one-third, but foresees headwinds from ongoing wage pressures, ~$130 million of fading COVID and Medicaid reimbursements, and higher interest expense.

Presentation

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

I'm Steve Filton. Marc Miller is joining us this morning. Welcome to this review of Universal Health Services results for the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2022. During the conference call, we'll be using words such as believes, expects, anticipates, estimates, and similar words that represent forecasts, projections and forward-looking statements. For anyone not familiar with the risks and uncertainties inherent in these forward-looking statements, I recommend a careful reading of the section on risk factors and forward-looking statements and risk factors in our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022. We'd like to highlight just a couple of developments and business trends before opening the call up to questions. As discussed in our press release last night, the company reported net income attributable to UHS for diluted share of $2.43 for the fourth quarter of 2022.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

After adjusting for the impact of the items reflected on the supplemental schedule, as included with the press release, primarily an asset impairment charge associated with an acute care hospital in Las Vegas, our adjusted net income attributable to UHS per diluted share was $3.02 for the quarter ended December 31, 2022.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

During the fourth quarter, our acute care hospitals experienced a decrease in the number of patients with a COVID diagnosis treated in our hospitals as compared to the prior year quarter. As a percentage of total admissions, COVID-diagnosed patients made up 7% of our admissions in the fourth quarter of 2021, but only about half of that percentage of admissions in the fourth quarter of 2022. This decline in COVID patients resulted in reduced revenues due to the lower acuity and less of the incremental government reimbursement associated with COVID patients. While overall surgical volumes tended to recover to pre-pandemic levels, there was a measurable shift from inpatient to outpatient, resulting in further overall revenue softness.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

Meanwhile, the amount of premium pay in the quarter, which declined from a peak of $153 million in the first quarter, was $85 million in the fourth quarter, similar to what it was in the third quarter. In total, there was insufficient revenue growth to offset the accelerated rate of wage increases and other inflationary pressures, leading to an acute EBITDA result in the quarter below our internal forecasts. At the same time, this decline in COVID activity allowed our behavioral hospitals to continue to reduce their labor vacancies, resulting in a reduction of the capping of bed capacity. The effect of the increased revenue largely offset higher labor costs, leading to a behavioral EBITDA result in the quarter more in line with our internal forecasts.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

We also note that the fourth quarter included approximately $10 million of losses related to start-up facilities. Our cash generated from operating activities was $297 million during the fourth quarter of 2022, as compared to $322 million during the same quarter in 2021. The decline was largely due to the opening of new facilities and the timing of receipt of certain supplemental reimbursements. We spent $734 million on capital expenditures during 2022. In reaction to the earnings softness experienced during the year, we reduced the pace of our capital expenditure spend by about one quarter from our original plans for the year. Similarly, we moderated the trajectory of our share repurchases.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

For the full year of 2022, we acquired $811 million of our own shares pursuant to our share repurchase program. Since the inception of the current share repurchase program in 2014, we have repurchased more than 20% of the company's outstanding shares. As of December 31, 2022, we had $886 million of aggregate available borrowing capacity pursuant to our $1.2 billion revolving credit facility.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

Our 2023 operating results forecast, which was provided in last night's release, envisions 2023 as a year of continued transition into a post-pandemic world. We anticipate that volumes in both segments and acuity in our acute business will continue their recovery trajectory and gradually begin to resemble the patterns we experienced before the pandemic. Similarly, we expect to be able to reduce premium pay by about 1/3 in 2023 from 2022 levels as we continue to increase hiring rates and reduce turnover as a result of multiple recruitment and retention programs that have been implemented over the last few years. Again, we've assumed these improvements will occur incrementally during the year, but will be partially offset by wage pressures created by a continued shortage of nurses and other clinical personnel, and by broader inflationary pressures affecting our other expenses.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

We note that in our acute segment, physician subsidy expense is specifically anticipated to increase by a substantial amount.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

Other headwinds that are reflected in our 2023 forecast are approximately $100 million in COVID-related reimbursement received in 2022, but phased out in 2023, as well as a reduction of about $30 million in supplemental reimbursement payments as disclosed in our 10-K. We will incur a significant increase in interest expense in 2023, about three-quarters of which is due to rising interest rates and the remainder to increased borrowings. Despite these challenges, we note that some of the operating indicators in early 2023 have been encouraging, especially in our behavioral health business. During the pandemic, we have found the pace of recovery from several of the aforementioned challenges has often been slower than we originally anticipated and have reflected that gradual cadence of recovery in our forecast.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

We remain confident in the fundamental strength of both our business segments given our well-positioned hospital franchises around the country. We are pleased to answer questions at this time.

[Operator]

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first call comes from the line of Andrew Mok with UBS. Your line is now open.

[Andrew Mok, Executive Director at UBS]

Hi. Good morning. You mentioned softer revenue in the acute segment due to lower acuity. Can you elaborate on the trends in surgical volumes and underlying acuity that you saw in the fourth quarter? What do you have embedded in the guide for 2023? When do you expect that to normalize? Thanks.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah, Andrew. I think as Marc Miller remarked in his commentary, and you can see in our press release metrics, revenue per adjusted admission was actually down for the quarter, I think attributable to a few factors. One is the decline in COVID patients. Those COVID patients, particularly last year, particularly the Omicron patients, tended to be higher acuity patients, and the loss of those patients and the loss of their good reimbursement, you know, reduces our acuity and our revenue. In addition to that, you know, Marc Miller talked about the shift, the accelerated shift from inpatient to outpatient. Our surgical volumes in Q4 actually were probably 3% or 4% above what they were in Q4 of 2019, the last, you know, pre-pandemic quarter or full pre-pandemic quarter.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Clearly, there's been an accelerated shift. You know, I think that outpatient procedures are probably up 7% or 8%, and inpatient procedures are sort of flattish. You know, so I think those are the, you know, the main drivers of the acuity softness in Q4. As far as what we have built into the guidance for next year, I think, you know, again, as Marc's sort of comments reflected, I think, you know, we're projecting a gradual sort of return to normalcy. For the year, I think our, you know, general notion is that acute care revenue per adjusted admission should increase probably in that 2%-4% range, which would be, you know, much closer to sort of the historical norms.

[Operator]

Our next call comes from the line of Stephen Baxter with Wells Fargo.

[Stephen Baxter, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo]

At least directionally by segment. You know, appreciating the color you gave on some of the one-time items in the acute care business, it sounds like that's likely the source of, you know, maybe some of the year-on-year pressure there. It'd be great if you could elaborate a little bit on what you're expecting for year-over-year margin trends in both acute and the behavioral business. Thanks.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah, Steve, I think we missed the beginning part of your question somehow. If you wouldn't mind repeating it, I apologize.

[Stephen Baxter, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo]

Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, the additional, you know, color on EBITDA growth and, you know, top-line growth by segment would be great. Just to understand a little bit when we look at the year-over-year margin pressure, where that's coming from. It sounds like with some of the items you flagged on the acute side, it looks like that's probably it. But just a better sense of on the direction of margin trends in both businesses. Thanks.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

I think on the acute side, there are specific headwinds, again, most of which I think, you know, Marc elaborated on. You know, one, probably the biggest one is the $100 million of COVID-related reimbursement that includes the Medicare 20% add-on, the HRSA reimbursement, the Medicare sequestration waiver, all of which get phased out at one point or another, or already phased out in 2023. I'll throw into that, although not COVID-related, another $10 million or so of 340B reimbursement that's gonna get recouped in 2023. In addition to that, there's, you know, Marc noted about $30 million of supplemental Medicaid reimbursement that declines next year. That's about 20 in the behavioral business and 10 in the acute business.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

I think the other main issue is that even though, again, as Marc Miller commented, we're expecting premium pay to decline another, you know, 1/3, maybe another $150 million-$160 million in 2023. What, you know, our experience has been is that The savings from that, and there certainly are some savings, but the savings from that are offset to a large degree by increased base wages, recruitment incentives, sign-on bonuses, that sort of thing. I think what our, you know, guidance, particularly in the acute business, implies or assumes is that all those trends sort of incrementally improve as the year goes on. You know, those are the headwinds, I think specifically in, on the acute side of the business, that, you know, mainly sort of tend to suppress the margins.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

On the behavioral side, it's really more on the, on the labor side. I mean, I think where we're at in, you know, both businesses is that at the moment, even though, you know, revenues are recovering, particularly on the behavioral side, salary expense or wage expense is still outpacing the growth in revenues. I think we believe that by the second half of 2023, that begins to sort of stabilize and, you know, we start to sort of get to a more normalized historical pattern of revenue growth exceeding salary growth. In the first half of the year, that's not the case. Again, I think that's probably the main driver of the margin pressure next year.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Cassorla with Citi. Jason?

[Jason Cassorla, Equity Research Analyst at Citi]

Great. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to ask about the move to wind down inpatient operations at your Desert Springs Hospital. Maybe just can you unpack that a bit more, and the decision there, what the EBITDA lift could be on the go forward? Anything else to note from a competitive perspective as we think about your Las Vegas market broadly? Thanks.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah, sure. I can answer that for you. We obviously that's a very important market for us. We've been looking at the whole market, the market as a whole for many years. We continue to try to build where we can at current properties as well as some of our de novo projects. We have a new project that's going in that is really, we're looking at it as a replacement hospital for Desert Springs. Originally, we had hoped to keep Desert Springs operating longer into the future, and closer to our opening date, if not all the way up to our opening date for our new West Henderson Hospital. The market dynamics caused us to have to accelerate the plan there.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

What we've done basically is we're moving that hospital to a glorified emergency services facility, and we'll continue to run those services even after we have our new hospital in West Henderson built. We're really transferring just about all of those employees to other Valley System facilities. It's been misreported that we're laying off a lot of employees. In fact, we're really not. Like I said, just about every one of those employees is finding a home in another one of our hospitals, which has helped alleviate some of the staffing pressures that we've had. That's really the situation. I don't know the timing on the numbers. West Henderson won't be open for about another year and a half. I wanna say middle to late 2024.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Right.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of A.J. Rice with Credit Suisse. A.J.?

[A.J. Rice, Managing Director of Equity Research at Credit Suisse]

Hi, everybody. Thanks. Maybe just two items and wanna think about your outlook. I think you mentioned that you're assuming an uptick in physician subsidy expense. I wondered what's happening there. I know in the back half of the year, your other operating expense in 2022 seemed to step up. Are you just assuming that continues, or is there something else going on there and chances to mitigate? Then any update on your capital deployment thoughts? I know, you've probably got some share repurchase in the 2023 outlook. Can you just comment on that and anything else that you're thinking about from a capital standpoint?

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Sure, A.J. Yeah. You know, physician subsidy expense, I think has been kind of an emerging challenge for most of the acute hospital industry, I would say, you know, for at least the back half of 2022, and I think most acknowledge it'll continue into next year. That's when we talk about that, we're really talking about the generally the contract service expense we pay to physicians who are providing services in our emergency rooms, anesthesiologists, radiologists, those are probably the major groups. You're right, we have seen some increase in those expenses this year. I think we continue to assume that 2023 will probably result in another 15%-20% increase in those expenses, and the magnitude of that is probably a $45 million-$50 million increase in costs.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

I think long term, you know, we have a number of strategies to deal with that cost pressure, including insourcing some of that activity to the degree that we can and competitively bidding contracts, et cetera. I think, you know, at the moment, we're caught in a tough situation because it's difficult to change those arrangements in the short term. In the long term, I think, you know, a lot of those pressures are a result of some of the internal struggles that some of those larger physician staffing companies are having. I think as those work their way out and the market adjusts, you know, we will see, you know, some easing of that in future years. Yeah, we've assumed, you know, as Marc said, a substantial increase in 2023.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

As far as capital deployment goes, we've got embedded in the budget about $600 million of share repurchase assumed. You know, we've also, you know, got about $800 million of, you know, capital expense or capital expenditures assumed in the budget as we've disclosed in the press release.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Valiquette with Barclays. Steven?

[Steven Valiquette, Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

Yeah. Good morning, everybody. Just on the behavioral side of the business, obviously, on the prior call you talked about the, you know, one of the challenges obviously being, you know, labor shortage, impacting some of the volume that you could generate otherwise. Just curious-

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Steve, can I interrupt? You're breaking up, so unless we can get a better connection, I can't hear your question. I apologize.

[Operator]

Would you please restate your question? Steven?

[Steven Valiquette, Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

Yeah. I'm not sure if it's better now or not.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah, that's better. Thank you.

[Operator]

Please go ahead.

[Steven Valiquette, Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Barclays]

Okay. Sure. I apologize. Okay. Just on the behavioral side, obviously you talked about labor shortages last year to impact on the volume that you could generate otherwise. Just curious how you think about it going into 2023.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Steve, I apologize. You're breaking up again. Maybe you can try to call back on a different line.

[Operator]

Yes, Steven, you can reenter the queue. Call back in and reenter the queue by dialing star one one on your keypad. We'll go to our next questioner, who is Justin Lake with Wolfe Research.

[Justin Lake, Managing Director and Senior Healthcare Services Analyst at Wolfe Research]

Can you hear me okay?

[Operator]

Justin?

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yes, we can.

[Justin Lake, Managing Director and Senior Healthcare Services Analyst at Wolfe Research]

Yep. Good. Thanks. Steve, I was hoping, you know, it sounds like there's a very different trajectory between the acute business, given the headwinds there and the behavioral business, which seems to be acting better. Within the full year guidance, can you give us a little color on the growth we should expect year-over-year, you know, broken down between the acute business, the behavioral business, and then maybe even the kind of corporate segment would be helpful as well. Marc, maybe you could give us a little more color on what you're seeing on this shift from inpatient to outpatient and, you know, what's driving that, how big an impact is it having, and how are you thinking about it into 2023? Thanks.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah. You know, looking at the two segments, discreetly, I think as we've suggested, a number of times in the past, we thought that as COVID volumes declined, the recovery in the behavioral business would be more accelerated than in the acute, in large part because there was never any benefit to, you know, increase COVID volume on the, in the behavioral business. We didn't get paid any more for patients, and quite frankly, it created, you know, more staffing challenges. It created more sort of patient matching challenges, that sort of thing.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

What I think you saw in the fourth quarter, and, you know, I think a continuation, quite frankly, what we saw in the third quarter was as COVID volumes declined, and, you know, I think Marc commented on this, at the outset of the call, we've been able to more successfully fill our nursing and other clinical vacancies. As a consequence, have been able to, you know, incrementally improve our volumes, particularly as measured by patient days.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

That continues into next year with the challenge, as I indicated, I think in an earlier call, is the price we've had to pay to fill those vacancies is higher base wages and some incentive payments and that sort of thing, which I think suppresses margins certainly at the beginning of the year, although hopefully they improve as the year progresses. Probably, you know, at the end of the day, you know, the 2023 forecast assumes, you know, slightly increased margins in the behavioral business. The acute business, a little bit different, as we talked about. They have to replace the benefit of the COVID volumes that they had. They've got to deal with the headwinds that we, you know, we're specific about, et cetera.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

At the end of the day, I think that acute care, you know, EBITDA and, you know, is relatively flat in 2023, which means margins are down slightly. We have some increase in corporate costs, things like stock equity compensation or, you know, incentive compensation 'cause we're assuming that, you know, we'll meet targets more fully in 2023 than we did in 2022. That sort of thing. You know, I think, you know, slightly increasing margins on the behavioral side, slightly declining on the acute side and, you know, some kind of disparate sorts of cost increases on the corporate side to get to the full, you know, budget guidance that we've provided.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

With regards to your question on inpatient versus outpatient, I mean, I think we're seeing what many are seeing, which is a continued shift to outpatient that has been accelerated, you know, through the pandemic. We're trying to, you know, continue to do a lot of the things that we've been doing the last few years, which is to ensure that we have the proper caseload in our inpatient surgical areas, especially with the increases in costs.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

For staffing those areas, we wanna make sure that we have the proper acuity. We're not doing low level cases, really outpatient cases in an inpatient setting, where we can't cover the cost properly. Our shift, I think, is pretty similar to a lot of others. We're also trying to accelerate our development of surgical centers so that we have more opportunities, and more platforms, for all of our surgery cases in as many markets as possible. We continue to develop those, as we find opportunities to do so.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next call comes from the line of Pito Chickering with Deutsche Bank.

[Pito Chickering, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Behavioral-

[Operator]

Pito.

[Pito Chickering, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

How many Can you hear me?

[Operator]

Yes.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah, we can hear you now.

[Pito Chickering, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Okay. There we go. On behavioral, how many beds are left that you can't staff, how do you think that ramps during 2023? As staffing and behavioral becomes easier post-COVID, I'm wondering what areas of healthcare were the biggest source of those hires. Finally, as you can start staffing again, do you increase your CapEx for behavioral beds to keep driving growth there over the next few years?

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah. Pito, it's, you know, it's I'll give you a number. I mean, I think we're down to a few hundred beds in behavioral that we would consider capped on most days. Now to be fair, you know, that number can change literally day to day, et cetera. You know, we do still feel like that patients are turned away in certain situations because we don't have appropriate staffing. A lot of times that may be specific to, let's say, a weekend or overnight staffing or, you know, it really does differ by facility. You're right.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

I mean, that's probably been the, you know, the single biggest headwind for the behavioral business during the pandemic, in large part because we were losing, employees, mostly nurses, but other clinical personnel, therapists, psychologists, et cetera, to other settings where either they had the opportunity to work remotely or they had the opportunity to work in an acute care setting, you know, making sort of premium dollars. As those opportunities have declined and, you know, I think telemedicine, you know, procedures have tended to decline as the pandemic has, you know, eased, and certainly the demand from acute care hospitals for, you know, COVID treating nurses, I think has declined as well. You know, we're seeing more of those nurses return to what I would describe as the behavioral fold.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

To your, you know, sort of last question, you know, yeah, I mean, obviously, we've been more tempered, if you will, about behavioral capacity addition during the pandemic because the thought was, you know, what's the point of adding additional capacity if we're not gonna be able to staff it? As those staffing pressures continue to ease, I think, you know, we've made the point throughout the pandemic that we think that the underlying demand for behavioral services across the full continuum is quite strong and robust, and we still believe that. Yes, we are certainly looking and trying to gauge in individual markets where additional capacity may be called for because the demand is there and because we feel like we can adequately staff any additional capacity that we build.

[Pito Chickering, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank]

Great. Thanks so much.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next call will come from the line of Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Kevin, please wait until you hear your name announced.

[Kevin Fischbeck, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America]

Hey, great.

[Operator]

Kevin?

[Kevin Fischbeck, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America]

Hey. I guess on the call last quarter, you mentioned that I think that there's a tailwind this year from startup losses year-over-year. Can you just remind us kinda how we should be thinking about that? Then you kind of in your opening remarks mentioned that this year is kind of a, still a normalization off of COVID. I mean, do you feel like 2023 is now going to be a solid base off of which we should be expecting normal growth in acute and psych? Do you feel like because of the way you're assuming progression through the year on these dynamics that even 2024 could see some, you know, year-over-year, skewed comparisons? Thanks.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

Yeah. As far as your first question on startup losses, Kevin, we mentioned in or I mentioned in today's call that we had $10 million in the quarter. I think we had said in our third quarter call that we had $45 million of year-to-date startup losses. $55 million for the year. The biggest chunk of that is our acute care hospital that we opened early in 2022 in Reno. That's probably a $30 million-$35 million swing from 2022 to 2023, a positive swing. The other, you know, $15 million-$20 million of losses are, you know, a handful, maybe three or four behavioral openings in the year, maybe four or five. You know, we probably have a similar number of openings next year.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

I think we believe we'll do a little bit better, in, you know, emerging from the pandemic and getting these things ramping up faster. You know, I wouldn't necessarily describe that as a material tailwind. You know, I think we've got about a $30 million-$35 million tailwind in the budget for our turnaround in our Reno hospital. As far as, you know, just sort of how we think about 2023, you know, is it sort of a, you know, kind of a clean post-pandemic year? Marc Miller made comments, you know, in his opening remarks about the idea that, number one, I think we view 2023 as a transition year.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

We do so because I think one of the lessons that we've learned during the pandemic is that even as COVID volumes decline, there is this sort of transition period as, you know, nurses return to their regular jobs and, you know, physicians return to their regular practices, and patients return to their regular utilization practices, et cetera. I think we think about that occurring gradually over the course of 2023. I would say probably the back half of 2023 looks a lot more like maybe the back half of 2019, the last, you know, the last sort of COVID-free half a year that we've experienced. 2024, I would imagine, unless there is some, you know, unforeseen development, you know, begins to look like a really true, you know, post-pandemic year.

[Kevin Fischbeck, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America]

Great. Thanks.

[Operator]

As a reminder, to enter the question-and-answer queue, please dial star one one on your keypad. Our next call comes from the line of Jamie Perse with Goldman Sachs. Jamie, please stand by. Jamie?

[Jamie Perse, Equity Research Associate in Medical Technology at Goldman Sachs]

Hey, good morning. Can you guys hear me okay?

[Operator]

Yes.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

We can.

[Jamie Perse, Equity Research Associate in Medical Technology at Goldman Sachs]

Okay, great. First, just a quick numbers question. Can you provide the revenue base for the insurance subsidiary and what the margin looks like on that? My, my longer-term question is just, you know, if we're in this structurally higher wage inflation environment for nurses, given the tightness in that market, what can you do over the medium term to just get more efficient? You know, what does that mean for care team design or investment in labor-saving technology? Just anything you're doing to become more efficient on the labor front.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

In answer to your question about our insurance subsidiary in the acute segment, it has roughly, or will have in 2023, about $400 million of premium revenue. You know, we'll run, as we sort of have discussed in the past, you know, kind of a modest, you know, margin in the low single digits. The real motivation in operating that insurance subsidiary is, you know, to create sort of a full continuum of care in our acute care markets, you know, greater integration with our physicians, et cetera. It's not really, you know, designed to be terribly profitable on its own. As far as your second question about recruitment retention, look, there's a lot of things, and we could have a whole separate hour-long call on...

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

You know, Marc, I think alluded to, you know, multiple recruitment and retention initiatives that we've implemented during the pandemic. You know, I think you specifically asked about sort of patient care, treatment, you know, sort of treatment structures and whatnot. We've tried to, in both of our businesses, create, you know, staffing infrastructures that are not so reliant on registered nurses, because those have been the most difficult positions to recruit to during the pandemic. You know, we're becoming more reliant on things like LPNs and LVNs and, you know, mental health techs in the behavioral business and, you know, EMTs and that sort of thing in our emergency rooms, that, you know, all those kinds of things.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

We certainly have been, you know, working to, you know, really improve the recruitment and retention of the nursing population itself, but also trying to reduce our reliance, particularly on registered nurses who've been the most difficult to recruit.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

I'll just add, there are a number of technological solutions that are being bandied about, you know, on both sides, both segments. We continue to evaluate a lot of those as some of our peers do as well. I do think in the coming years, there will be some that we go forward with. I'm not sure that there any of them are gonna be a real panacea. I do think that they can be helpful, depending on cost, to alleviate some of the staffing issues that we've had over the past few years, you know, going forward.

[Marc Miller, President and CEO at Universal Health Services]

So we are excited about the possibility of some of those adding to, you know, the mix in the coming years.

[Operator]

Thank you. Our next call will come from the line of Ben Hendrix with RBC Capital Markets. Please stand by. Ben?

[Ben Hendrix, Equity Research Analyst at RBC Capital Markets]

Yes, thank you. just a quick regulatory question. There was a proposal from CMS concerning the 1115 waiver payment and the implications there for calculation of Disproportionate Share payments for acute. Just wanted to see if you guys had any initial thoughts on that. I think you may have probably less exposure to that than some of your peers, but just wanted to get any initial takes on that proposed rule. Thanks.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

We've commented a number of times and would, you know, reference or direct people to our Form 10-K filing, where, you know, we detail in pretty specific detail our supplemental Medicaid payments in the current year in 2022 and then what we expect for 2023. I mentioned before, you know, we're expecting about a $30 million decline next year across a number of states. To your point, Ben, I don't think we're expecting a big change in Texas from the 1115 change. In total, you know, there's about a $30 million reduction in supplemental payments next year, including Disproportionate Share, over maybe two or three states.

[Ben Hendrix, Equity Research Analyst at RBC Capital Markets]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. There are no additional questions in the queue. At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to Steve for any closing remarks.

[Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services]

We'd just like to thank everybody for their time this morning, and we look forward to speaking with you again at the end of the first quarter. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you for your participation today in today's call. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Marc Miller, President and CEO

Analysts

• A.J. Rice, Managing Director of Equity Research at Credit Suisse
• Andrew Mok, Executive Director at UBS
• Ben Hendrix, Equity Research Analyst at RBC Capital Markets
• Jamie Perse, Equity Research Associate in Medical Technology at Goldman Sachs
• Jason Cassorla, Equity Research Analyst at Citi
• Justin Lake, Managing Director and Senior Healthcare Services Analyst at Wolfe Research
• Kevin Fischbeck, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Bank of America
• Pito Chickering, Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank
• Stephen Baxter, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Wells Fargo
• Steve Filton, EVP and CFO at Universal Health Services
• Steven Valiquette, Managing Director and Equity Research Analyst at Barclays