NYSE:TBI TrueBlue Q3 2024 Earnings Report $9.61 +0.17 (+1.82%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$9.62 +0.01 (+0.08%) As of 07:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast TrueBlue EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.11Consensus EPS -$0.15Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPS$0.16TrueBlue Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$382.36 millionExpected Revenue$386.07 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$3.71 millionYoY Revenue Growth-19.20%TrueBlue Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/4/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, November 4, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsTrueBlue's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Monday, November 2, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by TrueBlue Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 4, 2024ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Revenue for Q3 was $382 million, down 19% year-over-year as ongoing market uncertainty and client hesitations continued to suppress hiring. Management fully deployed its proprietary JobStack app ahead of schedule, using real-time insights to launch rapid enhancements that streamline customer and associate experiences. The company is expanding in less cyclical end markets—commercial driving services achieved a third consecutive quarter of double-digit growth, renewable energy work is up double digits year-to-date, and RPO services are targeting higher-skilled roles. Organizational simplification and disciplined cost actions drove a 17% reduction in SG&A, enhancing operational agility and positioning TrueBlue for improved profitability as demand rebounds. TrueBlue closed the quarter with zero debt, $15 million in cash, $133 million in available credit, and repurchased $4 million of stock, underpinning its Q4 guidance of an 18–24% revenue decline. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTrueBlue Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings and welcome to the TrueBlue Q3 2024 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I want to remind everyone that today's call and slide presentation contain forward-looking statements, all of which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and management assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Operator00:00:41These risks and uncertainties, some of which are described in today's press release and SEC filings, could cause actual results that differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Management uses non-GAAP measures when presenting financial results. You are encouraged to review the non-GAAP reconciliations in today's earnings release or at trueblue.com under the investor relations section. Operator00:01:08For a complete understanding of these terms and their purpose, any comparisons made today are based on a comparison to the same period in the prior year unless otherwise stated. Lastly, a copy of the company's prepared remarks will be provided on TrueBlue's investor website at the conclusion of today's call, and a full transcript and audio replay will be available soon after the call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Taryn Owen, President and Chief Executive Officer. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:01:42Thank you, Operator, and welcome everyone to today's call. I am joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Carl Schweihs. We appreciate you being here with us. As expected, market conditions remain challenging. Revenue for the quarter was $382 million, down 19% compared to the prior year as uncertainty and client caution continue to weigh on the staffing industry, leading to reduced business spend and curb hiring trends. Customers are looking for market confidence to grow before making significant adjustments to their workforce strategy. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:02:17This hesitancy is apparent in both current client volumes as well as new business trends, with engagement starting at subdued levels following an elongated decision process. Given the labor dynamics at play, we are focused on the areas we can control to meet the needs of the current market and ensure we are well-positioned to support demand as workforce needs expand. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:02:43Our teams are doing tremendous work, meeting customers where they are today with short-duration and flexible solutions while also establishing new relationships that will drive future growth. For example, as the economy slowed, one of our long-standing national onsite customers, a Fortune 100 retailer, reduced their contingent labor as their own volumes declined. We maintained a strong connection with the customer while serving fewer locations, and as the customer reopened and launched new facilities, we were there to support their needs, expanding to the new sites and deepening our relationship. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:03:20Another example comes from our PeopleScout team, who secured an RPO engagement early in the year with a multinational food products company. Driven by our exceptional service and execution, that client relationship has recently expanded to encompass MSP and professional search services. These examples are a testament to our team's ability to adapt and create opportunities for additional growth. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:03:46As our teams stay highly engaged with clients to address both their immediate and evolving needs, we are also scaling our operating structure to align with current market demand while delivering efficiencies to ensure we are ready as customer volumes return. We understand the current labor dynamics, and we are managing through the cycle with the discipline and agility needed to ensure we are even better positioned as conditions improve. We are also committed to advancing our strategic priorities to capture market share and enhance our long-term profitability. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:04:19We made significant progress during the quarter, accelerating our digital transformation, expanding our presence in attractive end markets, and simplifying our organizational structure to better leverage our inherent strengths as we look to capture the growth opportunities ahead. Positioning our contingent staffing business to better compete in a digital forward future is a key strategic priority. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:04:43Our expansive local presence, powered by our national footprint and differentiating technology, sets us apart as a market leader. We have successfully rolled out our new proprietary JobStack app across a branch network and national account base, well ahead of our year-end goal. This transition marks a significant milestone in the digital transformation of our business as the proprietary technology allows us to control our roadmap and quickly address evolving user needs, increasing the ease in which customers and associates engage with us. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:05:18We are excited by the early success of our launch as we leverage real-time insights to implement enhancements. For example, customers shared their desire for an easy way to get high-performing associates back on their work sites, and we responded quickly with an exclusive invite feature that connects the associate to the customer using a fast and seamless experience. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:05:41These insights allow us to implement competitive enhancements faster, rapidly improving our products and services and continually expanding the value we bring to our customers and associates. We look forward to developing additional features as we strengthen our market position through a differentiated experience that combines our technology with our expansive market presence and expertise. Another key strategic priority is our expansion in high-growth, less cyclical, and under-penetrated end markets to capitalize on secular growth opportunities. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:06:14We have continued to expand our healthcare presence across the organization, and we have developed a strong position in attractive skilled trade markets, including commercial driving services and renewable energy work. Leveraging our deep expertise and expanded service offerings, we delivered our third consecutive quarter of growth in commercial driving services. While our renewable energy work did not grow in the quarter, we are up double digits for the year. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:06:42Fluctuation in client volumes is expected given the nature of these projects, and the pipeline remains healthy, positioning us well to capture further growth opportunities in this space. We have also continued to diversify our RPO business into higher skilled placements, including professional search, and leverage our flexible solutions to capture growth opportunities in attractive end markets such as technology and professional services. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:07:09We are energized by our early success, winning new deals and expanding existing relationships with higher skilled roles and serving high-growth and high-value end markets. As customer volumes return, the scale of these engagements will drive further opportunities for revenue expansion. A third strategic priority is simplifying our organizational structure to drive enhanced focus, growth, and profitability. Streamlining creates opportunities to reduce inefficiencies and brings our teams closer to our clients and associates to deliver operational excellence. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:07:44We have made notable strides in this area and continue to operate with discipline to create greater agility and flexibility to scale as we look to realize future growth. We reduced our operating costs by 17% for the quarter, and beyond that, we are already seeing benefits from our efforts in the form of increased synergies and cross-selling as we eliminate silos and enhance our focus on our core specialties. Although current labor market dynamics are challenging, the long-term staffing outlook remains positive. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:08:16We are managing through the cycle with the discipline and agility needed to ensure we are strategically positioned for even stronger growth and profitability when customer demand volumes return. Evolving workforce needs and structural staffing shortages will create compelling opportunities for our business, and our competitive strengths, tremendous assets, and clear strategic priorities position us well for growth. We are excited about the opportunities ahead, and we are confident that we have the right people, technology, and resources to drive our strategic priorities forward, enhancing shareholder value and advancing our mission to connect people and work. I will now pass the call over to Carl, who will share further details around our financial results and outlook. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:09:05Thank you, Taryn. Total revenue for the quarter was $382 million, a decline of 19%. Overall market demand for temporary labor and permanent hiring continues to be suppressed as clients focus on reducing their operating costs and remain hesitant to make full-time hires due to uncertainty in their workforce needs. While these factors led to overall subdued client volumes, our commercial driving services showed strength, delivering double-digit growth for the quarter. This marks the third consecutive quarter of growth for our commercial driving services, and our team continues to capitalize on this momentum, pursuing additional growth opportunities in this space. Gross margin was 26.2% for the quarter and flat compared to the prior year. There were a couple of offsetting components for this quarter. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:09:55Changes in revenue mix, both from more favorable trends in our lower-margin People Management segment as well as the decline in our highest-margin business, PeopleScout, drove a decline of 80 basis points. Pricing pressures consistent with the current market environment contributed another 60 basis points of decline. These factors were offset by 140 basis points of expansion from lower workers' compensation costs driven by favorable development of prior-year reserves. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:10:21We reduced SG&A by 17% as we remain committed to enhancing our profitability. We're focused on the areas we can control, which is demonstrated by our disciplined actions to better align our cost structure with client demand while also creating greater flexibility to scale as industry demand rebounds. We've made significant progress simplifying our organizational structure and creating efficiencies that are already driving improved results. Looking forward, our profitability traditionally expands quickly as revenue grows. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:10:54But with our lean cost structure and improved efficiencies, we are even better positioned to deliver enhanced profitability as conditions improve. We reported a net loss of $8 million this quarter, which included $1 million of income tax expense primarily associated with our foreign operations and essentially zero income tax benefit on U.S. operations due to the valuation allowance in effect on our U.S. deferred tax assets. As a reminder, the valuation allowance has no impact on our operations, liquidity, or debt covenants. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:11:26Adjusted net loss was $3 million, while Adjusted EBITDA was $5 million. Now let's turn to the specifics of our segments. PeopleReady revenue decreased 24%, which includes two points of decline from the sale of our on-demand business in Canada, and segment profit margin was down 200 basis points. Lower client volumes continued to drive reduced demand across most verticals and geographies. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:11:53We entered the quarter behind our typical sequential build, which continued in July, but as we progressed through the quarter, we did return to historical sequential trends in August and September. For renewable energy work, we didn't grow in the quarter due to the lower volume on existing solar projects, mainly driven by high temperatures in the Southwest United States, as well as delayed new project starts. Given the nature of these renewable energy projects, these types of delays and fluctuations in volumes are expected. We continue to produce double-digit growth for the year as we capitalize on the secular growth opportunities with a strong market position. From a margin perspective, the contraction was largely driven by lower operating leverage as revenue declined. PeopleScout revenue decreased 31%, and segment profit margin was down 490 basis points. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:12:44The decline in demand was driven by lower client volumes as businesses continue to navigate challenging market dynamics, responding to cost pressures and uncertainty around their workforce needs. Results for the quarter were also impacted by the loss of a large hospitality client, which accounted for eight points of the revenue decline. The loss was due to the client's decision to insource the hiring of high-volume roles as part of a broader strategy change. At the same time, our team is doing a great job adding clients to the portfolio and has already outperformed in the prior year in new business wins. While many of these new wins are starting at subdued levels, we expect these relationships to drive further revenue expansion as customer hiring volumes return. The margin contraction was driven by lower operating leverage as revenue declined. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:13:34People Management revenue decreased 5%, while segment profit margin was up 90 basis points. The decline in demand was driven by lower on-site client volumes, consistent with the macro conditions evident in the verticals we serve, such as retail. This was partially offset by double-digit growth in our commercial driving services, which delivered its third consecutive quarter of growth in Q3. People Management segment profit margin expanded due to disciplined cost management actions to better align our cost structure with client demand and improved efficiencies. Now let's turn to the balance sheet. We finished the quarter with no debt, $15 million in cash, and $133 million of borrowing availability. We repurchased $4 million of common stock during the quarter, leaving $34 million remaining under our authorization. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:14:20While operating cash flows are down, largely driven by changes in revenue mix and the associated working capital, we have a solid balance sheet and a strong liquidity position. This provides us with great flexibility as we look to drive future growth opportunities. Turning to the outlook for the Q4, we expect a revenue decline of 24% to 18%. This includes six percentage points of headwind from the extra 14th week in our fiscal Q4 last year, as well as one percentage point due to the sale of our on-demand business in Canada. Our outlook reflects a continuation of current market trends because while there are some bright spots and signs of improvement, we have yet to see an indication as to when overall demand trends will turn. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:15:04We expect SG&A of $98 to $102 million, which represents a reduction of roughly $30 million compared to the prior year period, as we manage through this market cycle with a commitment to enhance our profitability and ensure we are well-positioned as the demand environment rebounds. Additional information on our outlook can be found in the earnings presentation shared on our website today. Before we open the call up for questions, I want to turn it back over to Taryn for some closing remarks. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:15:30Thank you, Carl. As you have heard from us today, we remain committed to advancing our strategic priorities and managing through this challenging market cycle with the agility and discipline needed to strategically position us for even stronger growth and profitability when industry demand rebounds. We are confident that our strategic priorities, in combination with our many strengths and assets, will enable us to advance our mission to connect people and work while delivering long-term shareholder value. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the call now for questions. Operator00:16:06Thank you. At this time, we will conduct our question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press Star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. Once again, to ask a question, press Star one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Please state your question. Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:16:48Hey, good afternoon. Thanks so much. This is Ryan on for Jeff. I was just wondering if you could provide a feel for how the customer count has been moving. I think at this point in time, the labor market demand weakness is pretty well understood, but perhaps that's more of a volume issue than customer attrition issue, and then additionally, is there anything you can tell us about the number of customer wins, how the retention has been trending, and how those two have been playing into the net customer count? Is it up or down this year? Just trying to understand whether the current revenue weakness is volume-driven versus anything secular going on. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:17:25Hi, Ryan. Thank you so much for the question. Despite the ongoing market challenges and subdued customer demand, our teams are continuing to retain and expand existing customer relationships, as well as win new customers, positioning TrueBlue favorably for significant growth when volume returns to historical levels. In our PeopleReady on-demand business, although revenue for the quarter declined sequentially from quarter two, our customer count continued to grow sequentially into quarter three, which is a trend that did continue from the prior quarter. In our PeopleScout business, that business has nearly doubled the total of new annualized wins in comparison to this time last year. And many of those wins are in attractive markets like healthcare as well as higher-skilled professional roles. And then our People Management business, new wins are up double-digit year to date on annualized win volumes. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:18:34Within that, Centerline, as we mentioned, continues to outperform the market, delivering double-digit growth for the quarter, and now three consecutive quarters of growth in a row. And in that business, we saw both significant expansion with an existing customer as well as new logo wins being added to the portfolio. So certainly, the strong customer retention, scope expansion, and new customer wins is positioning us very nicely to capture market share as volumes return to normalized levels, both with our current customers and the new customers that we're bringing on board. Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:19:15Understood. Thank you. And then you typically provide the revenue growth rate by segment. I was just wondering if you have that and then if you have the bill pay spread for the quarter? Thank you very much. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:19:29Yeah, of course. Thanks for the question. So yeah, if we just kind of look on Q4 guidance, I'm going to kind of start with TrueBlue, then walk us through. We've got a couple of items that I want to call out, and then I'll give it on a comparable basis. But when you're thinking about Q4 guidance, and I'm going to give mid-points here, Ryan, but TrueBlue's at minus 21%. We also have Canada that's causing about a negative point of growth for TrueBlue and then two points of decline for PeopleReady, which will lapse as we get over those comps in Q1 here. And then also, it's just a reminder, our prior-year Q4 had an extra week, and that's creating a headwind of about six points in total on TrueBlue. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:20:09So to kind of take it back, for Q4, on a GAAP basis, midpoint of down 21% for TrueBlue, down 24% for PeopleReady, down 13% for People Management, and down 30% for PeopleScout. When you take it on a comparable basis, those midpoints are down 14% for TrueBlue, down 15% for PeopleReady, down 7% for People Management, down 28% for PeopleScout. And then you also asked about bill-pay spreads. Just on bill-pay spreads, so our pay rates were up about 1.5% while our bill rates were up 0.2% in our PeopleReady business. As I mentioned in prepared remarks, that led to about a 60 basis points decline in margin. And as we've talked about on the last call, Ryan, we've seen our pay rate growth continue to moderate throughout the year. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:21:03And this is from the all-time highs that we experienced kind of post-pandemic. We were in the 10% pay rate growth in 2021. That moderated to like 7% growth in 2023, and now we're sitting at 1.5. We'd expect for this kind of same trend to continue in Q4, and we've seen that pay rate trend continue to get lower as well into October. Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:21:29Great. Thank you very much. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:21:32Thank you. Operator00:21:34Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird. Please state your question. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:21:40Hey, good afternoon. I had a couple of different questions. One, just wondering about hurricane impacts, both in terms of negatives relative to positives. Obviously, anybody who looks at one of the maps can see that there's a lot of PeopleReady branches around Tampa and Sarasota. So wondering, how much disruption did you end up seeing? And then sometimes you end up getting a lot of cleanup work. How much cleanup work are you getting, and how's that factoring into the guide? Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:22:17Hi, Mark. Thank you for the question. As we're dealing with the hurricanes, our first priority is always to ensure the safety of our staff and provide support to our impacted team members in a situation like this and be able to really resume operations just as quickly as possible because we do play a critical role in the cleanup efforts in the communities in which we serve. PeopleReady provides on-demand support in disaster recovery efforts. We're currently working with more than 20 organizations that are focused on those cleanup efforts. In the upcoming months, as construction plans are approved and permits are awarded, our PeopleReady Skilled Trades business will play a role in restoration and rebuilding. In regards to Helene and Milton specifically, we were able to quickly resume operations in all impacted areas. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:23:16Our branch office in Asheville, North Carolina, was damaged, so the team is working from a mobile unit for business continuity in that area, and because the associate pool is quite limited in Asheville, we have brought in our traveling teams to meet the customer's needs and, again, be able to play the critical role of supporting the community. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:23:40And just to add on to that, I know you're kind of from a financial standpoint, you're asking for the impact. These typically have an immediate negative impact for us, Mark, and then they tend to be, call it net neutral, slightly positive for us as we do those cleanup efforts that Taryn was talking about. The timing of these hurricanes did have a slight impact on Q3 and Q4 with kind of both of them. It was about $700,000 for Q3 with Helene and approximately a negative impact of about $900,000 for Milton in October here. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:24:13You don't think that the subsequent rebound in terms of all the work is going to be significantly more than what the negative was? Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:24:23We do. I mean, if we look at all of these kind of over time, it is, again, I would say it is net neutral to net positive, depending on the impact and where our cleanup efforts are. We have those in our guides, and we would start to see that over a longer period of time as those recoveries come in, and that's included into our outlook. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:24:41Okay. Can you talk a little bit about the renewables business? I mean, you mentioned that it's slowed down and understandable in terms of the weather impacts, but how quickly do you expect that to resume, particularly now that it's getting a little bit cooler? Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:24:59I'll start. From a renewables perspective, certainly our pipeline remains strong. We actually secured four new logos in our PeopleReady Renewable business for those large-scale utility solar projects in the quarter, which will bring revenue in 2025. So this is a lumpy business, but we still feel very confident in the mid and long-term opportunity here. It was really weather impact in a couple of states where we had some large sites and some hot weather. I would just say, in addition to the PeopleReady Renewable business that we've talked about historically, Mark, we have started to see some wins outside of PeopleReady as well. Our People Management business secured wins with a solar company that does solar panel manufacturing in New Mexico. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:25:57So we're excited about that, as well as another new win where we'll provide skilled roles in solar and electrical and beyond. And then finally, PeopleScout had a recent win with a clean energy company to hire engineering roles. So as much as we continue to focus on the renewable business that we've talked about, we are starting to get some opportunities outside of that as well. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:26:25Thanks. And then lastly, just with regards to the hospitality company, it sounds like that's a broad-based move that they're making towards insourcing. Can you talk about what you're seeing with some of your other large clients just in terms of discussions with them? How much of them are maintaining the contracts but have continued to use internal resources to a greater extent? And what are your net promoter scores or any other form of feedback? How's that trending with some of your existing RPO clients? Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:27:14Yeah. Thanks for the question. This hospitality client was a unique business decision, and I would call it an outlier from what we are experiencing and seeing from our other customers in terms of a business strategy change to outsource or to insource, rather, for the long term. Across the rest of our customer base, we're seeing lower volumes. And in cases where recruiting volumes are extremely low, we do see clients take some of that outsource recruitment in-house, really in an effort to retain their in-house recruiting teams and keep them busy. And as we've been talking to these customers, we have the contracts alive. We're staying close to them, and we fully expect to be part of their long-term solution once those volumes return and exceed the capacity of their in-house recruiting teams. And we've seen this in prior cycles as well. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:28:20Really, by the nature of the RPO business, we are built to support our customers' ability to scale up and down during various hiring volumes, and we believe that RPO will return to historical growth rates. We're getting great feedback from the customers. We check in with them regularly, and we're certainly well-positioned to support them as their needs change and expand. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:28:51Thank you. Operator00:28:54Our next question comes from Karthik Mehta with North Coast Research. Please state your question. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:29:01Hi. Good evening. Maybe, Carl, just thoughts on how the quarter trended and what you saw maybe in October, just to get a feel for how business trends have been? Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:29:18Yeah. Thanks, Karthik, for the question. As I kind of mentioned, when we think about kind of October and our Q4 guides, October really trended in line with those mid-point guides I gave earlier. So that's at minus on a comparable basis, minus 14 for TrueBlue, minus 15 for PeopleReady, minus 7 for People Management, and minus 28 for PeopleScout. So right in line with our outlook and guidance. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:29:45Taryn, just curious how your customers react, maybe how business is trending because of the holiday season this year in December, kind of an odd day, maybe taking out two weeks of business. I'm wondering if that is having any impact on your business. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:30:07I would say that just overall, from a customer sentiment perspective, our customers just continue to communicate that it's an uncertain environment. They're using caution and really being mindful of their future workforce plans. As far as an inflection point, they're certainly looking for more certainty so they can feel confident in planning those workforce needs. Our best indicator is when our customers say that they need our help. We're staying highly engaged to ensure that we're well-positioned, and we're really close to our customers around their workforce needs now and through the end of the year, and our guidance reflects that. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:30:59Just one last question, Carl. I know we talked a little bit about this last quarter, which is the leverage in the business. You've taken some actions in the business to lower the costs. And I'm wondering, as you look at incremental margins for the business, when this industry gets back to kind of normalize, and obviously, you'll see some increased revenue growth, I'm wondering, what type of incremental margins would you expect if, let's say, we get revenue growth of 10%-20%? Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:31:34Yeah. Thanks, Karthik, again, for the question. So yeah, I think we've done a really good job managing costs this year as we kind of guided to continued cost management. We've taken out over $70 million of cost this year, and we do think it will lead to improved margins. So I think we talked about this on the last call as well, but if you just took kind of a 10% revenue growth across our business, we historically have kind of incremental margin of 15%-20%. We feel like with the cost actions that we've made, we're going to be north of 20%, call it 20%-22%, maybe even do a little bit better, depending on the segment where that comes in. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:32:12But if you just took it across our model, we'd look at anywhere from 30 to even 50 basis points of margin improvement to kind of historical margins. So we're pleased with the work we've done there, but still yet to see kind of that indication of that demand returning to those levels. But when they do, we'd expect for higher profitability than we've historically seen. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:32:37And if I could add to that, there's another benefit that has come from the org structure work that we've done as an organization. We're seeing improvement in several of our key metrics, things like fill rates, associate utilization, improved safety scores, and our cross-selling efforts and wins have increased as well. Just a couple of examples from the quarter. We won a joint pursuit by PeopleReady and People Management to serve a scrap metal company. And PeopleScout just secured a new win serving a pharmaceutical client in partnership with our People Management team. So the ability to break down some of these silos and have our teams working closer in collaboration has been a real benefit. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:33:25Perfect. Thank you very much. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:33:27Thanks, Karthik. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:33:28Thanks, Karthik. Operator00:33:30Thank you. And just a reminder to the audience, to ask a question, press Star one on your telephone keypad. To remove yourself from the queue, press Star two. Our next question comes from Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company. Please state your question. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:33:47Hi. Good evening. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:33:49Good evening, Marc. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:33:51So I was wondering if we could talk a little bit about JobStack and the commentary around the timing and how things are going with the rollout. And it certainly sounds like it's encouraging from an initial perspective. Maybe you could talk a little bit about, I guess, the commentary wasn't being ahead of schedule. And then maybe you could sort of talk a little bit about what your initial impressions are or if there's any areas that, as far as feedback that you're receiving, that you can share, that would be great. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:34:22Thanks for the question, Marc. Yes, we are very happy to have successfully rolled out our new proprietary JobStack app across our branch network and national account base well ahead of schedule. Just as a reminder, this new version allows us to control our roadmap and quickly address our evolving user needs, both on the customer as well as the associate side. And we're already gaining some positive momentum from the initial launch with our enhanced ability to really quickly address their feedback and their needs. So I'll just give a couple of examples. First, we implemented a text-to-apply feature that makes it easier for our candidates to access our new app, which enhances their user experience and ultimately streamlines the job search process for them. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:35:19And just in the first couple of months, we've seen an improvement to the adoption rates as more candidates are turning to the app to engage with our services. And on the customer side, we made an order extension feature more intuitive, making it easier for a customer to essentially extend an associate that is working on their customer site in a very easy and user-friendly way. As we move forward here, we have a robust roadmap that's really focused on features and functionality that is designed to enable growth for the organization. So we're really excited about it and anxious to continue to build on this asset. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:36:11Excellent. And then I was sort of thinking about the maybe we sort of share some thoughts as to any of the I think you prepared remarks. You made some commentary around certain areas and certain places that might be viewed as bright spots. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about maybe is that industry focus-wise, sector focus-wise, or geographically, or where our bright spots are at this point. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:36:39Yeah. I'll get us started. A couple that I would highlight is renewable. I mentioned earlier that we've continued to get some wins in the PeopleReady business as we prepare for further growth as we move forward here, and seeing some wins in this space in businesses outside of PeopleReady is something that we're really excited about. On the skilled side, we've had nice growth in our commercial trucking business where we've seen some customer expansions and new logo wins there, and in healthcare, PeopleScout has secured six new wins in healthcare so far this year, supporting a variety of clinical roles, and we had a recent win in People Management, supporting a pharmaceutical company with driver positions in healthcare, and then finally, we've talked about our efforts to expand the roles we serve in PeopleScout to higher skilled placements. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:37:44And so happy to report that PeopleScout won a full-cycle RPO deal recently with a U.S.-based global technology firm where we'll hire 250 professional and technical hires in their insurance services business in Australia. And we'll then move to further expand support in India, U.S., and beyond. So making some really good progress in that area as well. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:38:13Okay. Great. I guess that's it for me. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:38:16Thanks, Marc. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:38:17Thanks, Marc. Operator00:38:20Thank you. And at this time, I'm showing no additional questions, so I'll hand it back to Taryn Owen for closing remarks. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:38:27Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I also want to take this opportunity to thank the entire TrueBlue team for their tremendous efforts in providing our customers and associates with exceptional service and for their commitment to advancing our mission to connect people and work. We look forward to speaking to you at upcoming investor events and on our next quarterly call. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Have a great evening. Thank you. Operator00:38:56Thanks. That concludes today's call. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Greetings and welcome to the TrueBlue Q3 2024 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I want to remind everyone that today's call and slide presentation contain forward-looking statements, all of which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and management assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Operator00:00:41These risks and uncertainties, some of which are described in today's press release and SEC filings, could cause actual results that differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Management uses non-GAAP measures when presenting financial results. You are encouraged to review the non-GAAP reconciliations in today's earnings release or at trueblue.com under the investor relations section. Operator00:01:08For a complete understanding of these terms and their purpose, any comparisons made today are based on a comparison to the same period in the prior year unless otherwise stated. Lastly, a copy of the company's prepared remarks will be provided on TrueBlue's investor website at the conclusion of today's call, and a full transcript and audio replay will be available soon after the call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Taryn Owen, President and Chief Executive Officer. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:01:42Thank you, Operator, and welcome everyone to today's call. I am joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Carl Schweihs. We appreciate you being here with us. As expected, market conditions remain challenging. Revenue for the quarter was $382 million, down 19% compared to the prior year as uncertainty and client caution continue to weigh on the staffing industry, leading to reduced business spend and curb hiring trends. Customers are looking for market confidence to grow before making significant adjustments to their workforce strategy. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:02:17This hesitancy is apparent in both current client volumes as well as new business trends, with engagement starting at subdued levels following an elongated decision process. Given the labor dynamics at play, we are focused on the areas we can control to meet the needs of the current market and ensure we are well-positioned to support demand as workforce needs expand. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:02:43Our teams are doing tremendous work, meeting customers where they are today with short-duration and flexible solutions while also establishing new relationships that will drive future growth. For example, as the economy slowed, one of our long-standing national onsite customers, a Fortune 100 retailer, reduced their contingent labor as their own volumes declined. We maintained a strong connection with the customer while serving fewer locations, and as the customer reopened and launched new facilities, we were there to support their needs, expanding to the new sites and deepening our relationship. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:03:20Another example comes from our PeopleScout team, who secured an RPO engagement early in the year with a multinational food products company. Driven by our exceptional service and execution, that client relationship has recently expanded to encompass MSP and professional search services. These examples are a testament to our team's ability to adapt and create opportunities for additional growth. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:03:46As our teams stay highly engaged with clients to address both their immediate and evolving needs, we are also scaling our operating structure to align with current market demand while delivering efficiencies to ensure we are ready as customer volumes return. We understand the current labor dynamics, and we are managing through the cycle with the discipline and agility needed to ensure we are even better positioned as conditions improve. We are also committed to advancing our strategic priorities to capture market share and enhance our long-term profitability. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:04:19We made significant progress during the quarter, accelerating our digital transformation, expanding our presence in attractive end markets, and simplifying our organizational structure to better leverage our inherent strengths as we look to capture the growth opportunities ahead. Positioning our contingent staffing business to better compete in a digital forward future is a key strategic priority. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:04:43Our expansive local presence, powered by our national footprint and differentiating technology, sets us apart as a market leader. We have successfully rolled out our new proprietary JobStack app across a branch network and national account base, well ahead of our year-end goal. This transition marks a significant milestone in the digital transformation of our business as the proprietary technology allows us to control our roadmap and quickly address evolving user needs, increasing the ease in which customers and associates engage with us. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:05:18We are excited by the early success of our launch as we leverage real-time insights to implement enhancements. For example, customers shared their desire for an easy way to get high-performing associates back on their work sites, and we responded quickly with an exclusive invite feature that connects the associate to the customer using a fast and seamless experience. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:05:41These insights allow us to implement competitive enhancements faster, rapidly improving our products and services and continually expanding the value we bring to our customers and associates. We look forward to developing additional features as we strengthen our market position through a differentiated experience that combines our technology with our expansive market presence and expertise. Another key strategic priority is our expansion in high-growth, less cyclical, and under-penetrated end markets to capitalize on secular growth opportunities. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:06:14We have continued to expand our healthcare presence across the organization, and we have developed a strong position in attractive skilled trade markets, including commercial driving services and renewable energy work. Leveraging our deep expertise and expanded service offerings, we delivered our third consecutive quarter of growth in commercial driving services. While our renewable energy work did not grow in the quarter, we are up double digits for the year. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:06:42Fluctuation in client volumes is expected given the nature of these projects, and the pipeline remains healthy, positioning us well to capture further growth opportunities in this space. We have also continued to diversify our RPO business into higher skilled placements, including professional search, and leverage our flexible solutions to capture growth opportunities in attractive end markets such as technology and professional services. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:07:09We are energized by our early success, winning new deals and expanding existing relationships with higher skilled roles and serving high-growth and high-value end markets. As customer volumes return, the scale of these engagements will drive further opportunities for revenue expansion. A third strategic priority is simplifying our organizational structure to drive enhanced focus, growth, and profitability. Streamlining creates opportunities to reduce inefficiencies and brings our teams closer to our clients and associates to deliver operational excellence. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:07:44We have made notable strides in this area and continue to operate with discipline to create greater agility and flexibility to scale as we look to realize future growth. We reduced our operating costs by 17% for the quarter, and beyond that, we are already seeing benefits from our efforts in the form of increased synergies and cross-selling as we eliminate silos and enhance our focus on our core specialties. Although current labor market dynamics are challenging, the long-term staffing outlook remains positive. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:08:16We are managing through the cycle with the discipline and agility needed to ensure we are strategically positioned for even stronger growth and profitability when customer demand volumes return. Evolving workforce needs and structural staffing shortages will create compelling opportunities for our business, and our competitive strengths, tremendous assets, and clear strategic priorities position us well for growth. We are excited about the opportunities ahead, and we are confident that we have the right people, technology, and resources to drive our strategic priorities forward, enhancing shareholder value and advancing our mission to connect people and work. I will now pass the call over to Carl, who will share further details around our financial results and outlook. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:09:05Thank you, Taryn. Total revenue for the quarter was $382 million, a decline of 19%. Overall market demand for temporary labor and permanent hiring continues to be suppressed as clients focus on reducing their operating costs and remain hesitant to make full-time hires due to uncertainty in their workforce needs. While these factors led to overall subdued client volumes, our commercial driving services showed strength, delivering double-digit growth for the quarter. This marks the third consecutive quarter of growth for our commercial driving services, and our team continues to capitalize on this momentum, pursuing additional growth opportunities in this space. Gross margin was 26.2% for the quarter and flat compared to the prior year. There were a couple of offsetting components for this quarter. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:09:55Changes in revenue mix, both from more favorable trends in our lower-margin People Management segment as well as the decline in our highest-margin business, PeopleScout, drove a decline of 80 basis points. Pricing pressures consistent with the current market environment contributed another 60 basis points of decline. These factors were offset by 140 basis points of expansion from lower workers' compensation costs driven by favorable development of prior-year reserves. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:10:21We reduced SG&A by 17% as we remain committed to enhancing our profitability. We're focused on the areas we can control, which is demonstrated by our disciplined actions to better align our cost structure with client demand while also creating greater flexibility to scale as industry demand rebounds. We've made significant progress simplifying our organizational structure and creating efficiencies that are already driving improved results. Looking forward, our profitability traditionally expands quickly as revenue grows. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:10:54But with our lean cost structure and improved efficiencies, we are even better positioned to deliver enhanced profitability as conditions improve. We reported a net loss of $8 million this quarter, which included $1 million of income tax expense primarily associated with our foreign operations and essentially zero income tax benefit on U.S. operations due to the valuation allowance in effect on our U.S. deferred tax assets. As a reminder, the valuation allowance has no impact on our operations, liquidity, or debt covenants. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:11:26Adjusted net loss was $3 million, while Adjusted EBITDA was $5 million. Now let's turn to the specifics of our segments. PeopleReady revenue decreased 24%, which includes two points of decline from the sale of our on-demand business in Canada, and segment profit margin was down 200 basis points. Lower client volumes continued to drive reduced demand across most verticals and geographies. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:11:53We entered the quarter behind our typical sequential build, which continued in July, but as we progressed through the quarter, we did return to historical sequential trends in August and September. For renewable energy work, we didn't grow in the quarter due to the lower volume on existing solar projects, mainly driven by high temperatures in the Southwest United States, as well as delayed new project starts. Given the nature of these renewable energy projects, these types of delays and fluctuations in volumes are expected. We continue to produce double-digit growth for the year as we capitalize on the secular growth opportunities with a strong market position. From a margin perspective, the contraction was largely driven by lower operating leverage as revenue declined. PeopleScout revenue decreased 31%, and segment profit margin was down 490 basis points. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:12:44The decline in demand was driven by lower client volumes as businesses continue to navigate challenging market dynamics, responding to cost pressures and uncertainty around their workforce needs. Results for the quarter were also impacted by the loss of a large hospitality client, which accounted for eight points of the revenue decline. The loss was due to the client's decision to insource the hiring of high-volume roles as part of a broader strategy change. At the same time, our team is doing a great job adding clients to the portfolio and has already outperformed in the prior year in new business wins. While many of these new wins are starting at subdued levels, we expect these relationships to drive further revenue expansion as customer hiring volumes return. The margin contraction was driven by lower operating leverage as revenue declined. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:13:34People Management revenue decreased 5%, while segment profit margin was up 90 basis points. The decline in demand was driven by lower on-site client volumes, consistent with the macro conditions evident in the verticals we serve, such as retail. This was partially offset by double-digit growth in our commercial driving services, which delivered its third consecutive quarter of growth in Q3. People Management segment profit margin expanded due to disciplined cost management actions to better align our cost structure with client demand and improved efficiencies. Now let's turn to the balance sheet. We finished the quarter with no debt, $15 million in cash, and $133 million of borrowing availability. We repurchased $4 million of common stock during the quarter, leaving $34 million remaining under our authorization. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:14:20While operating cash flows are down, largely driven by changes in revenue mix and the associated working capital, we have a solid balance sheet and a strong liquidity position. This provides us with great flexibility as we look to drive future growth opportunities. Turning to the outlook for the Q4, we expect a revenue decline of 24% to 18%. This includes six percentage points of headwind from the extra 14th week in our fiscal Q4 last year, as well as one percentage point due to the sale of our on-demand business in Canada. Our outlook reflects a continuation of current market trends because while there are some bright spots and signs of improvement, we have yet to see an indication as to when overall demand trends will turn. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:15:04We expect SG&A of $98 to $102 million, which represents a reduction of roughly $30 million compared to the prior year period, as we manage through this market cycle with a commitment to enhance our profitability and ensure we are well-positioned as the demand environment rebounds. Additional information on our outlook can be found in the earnings presentation shared on our website today. Before we open the call up for questions, I want to turn it back over to Taryn for some closing remarks. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:15:30Thank you, Carl. As you have heard from us today, we remain committed to advancing our strategic priorities and managing through this challenging market cycle with the agility and discipline needed to strategically position us for even stronger growth and profitability when industry demand rebounds. We are confident that our strategic priorities, in combination with our many strengths and assets, will enable us to advance our mission to connect people and work while delivering long-term shareholder value. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the call now for questions. Operator00:16:06Thank you. At this time, we will conduct our question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press Star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the Star keys. Once again, to ask a question, press Star one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Please state your question. Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:16:48Hey, good afternoon. Thanks so much. This is Ryan on for Jeff. I was just wondering if you could provide a feel for how the customer count has been moving. I think at this point in time, the labor market demand weakness is pretty well understood, but perhaps that's more of a volume issue than customer attrition issue, and then additionally, is there anything you can tell us about the number of customer wins, how the retention has been trending, and how those two have been playing into the net customer count? Is it up or down this year? Just trying to understand whether the current revenue weakness is volume-driven versus anything secular going on. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:17:25Hi, Ryan. Thank you so much for the question. Despite the ongoing market challenges and subdued customer demand, our teams are continuing to retain and expand existing customer relationships, as well as win new customers, positioning TrueBlue favorably for significant growth when volume returns to historical levels. In our PeopleReady on-demand business, although revenue for the quarter declined sequentially from quarter two, our customer count continued to grow sequentially into quarter three, which is a trend that did continue from the prior quarter. In our PeopleScout business, that business has nearly doubled the total of new annualized wins in comparison to this time last year. And many of those wins are in attractive markets like healthcare as well as higher-skilled professional roles. And then our People Management business, new wins are up double-digit year to date on annualized win volumes. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:18:34Within that, Centerline, as we mentioned, continues to outperform the market, delivering double-digit growth for the quarter, and now three consecutive quarters of growth in a row. And in that business, we saw both significant expansion with an existing customer as well as new logo wins being added to the portfolio. So certainly, the strong customer retention, scope expansion, and new customer wins is positioning us very nicely to capture market share as volumes return to normalized levels, both with our current customers and the new customers that we're bringing on board. Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:19:15Understood. Thank you. And then you typically provide the revenue growth rate by segment. I was just wondering if you have that and then if you have the bill pay spread for the quarter? Thank you very much. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:19:29Yeah, of course. Thanks for the question. So yeah, if we just kind of look on Q4 guidance, I'm going to kind of start with TrueBlue, then walk us through. We've got a couple of items that I want to call out, and then I'll give it on a comparable basis. But when you're thinking about Q4 guidance, and I'm going to give mid-points here, Ryan, but TrueBlue's at minus 21%. We also have Canada that's causing about a negative point of growth for TrueBlue and then two points of decline for PeopleReady, which will lapse as we get over those comps in Q1 here. And then also, it's just a reminder, our prior-year Q4 had an extra week, and that's creating a headwind of about six points in total on TrueBlue. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:20:09So to kind of take it back, for Q4, on a GAAP basis, midpoint of down 21% for TrueBlue, down 24% for PeopleReady, down 13% for People Management, and down 30% for PeopleScout. When you take it on a comparable basis, those midpoints are down 14% for TrueBlue, down 15% for PeopleReady, down 7% for People Management, down 28% for PeopleScout. And then you also asked about bill-pay spreads. Just on bill-pay spreads, so our pay rates were up about 1.5% while our bill rates were up 0.2% in our PeopleReady business. As I mentioned in prepared remarks, that led to about a 60 basis points decline in margin. And as we've talked about on the last call, Ryan, we've seen our pay rate growth continue to moderate throughout the year. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:21:03And this is from the all-time highs that we experienced kind of post-pandemic. We were in the 10% pay rate growth in 2021. That moderated to like 7% growth in 2023, and now we're sitting at 1.5. We'd expect for this kind of same trend to continue in Q4, and we've seen that pay rate trend continue to get lower as well into October. Analyst at BMO Capital Markets00:21:29Great. Thank you very much. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:21:32Thank you. Operator00:21:34Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird. Please state your question. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:21:40Hey, good afternoon. I had a couple of different questions. One, just wondering about hurricane impacts, both in terms of negatives relative to positives. Obviously, anybody who looks at one of the maps can see that there's a lot of PeopleReady branches around Tampa and Sarasota. So wondering, how much disruption did you end up seeing? And then sometimes you end up getting a lot of cleanup work. How much cleanup work are you getting, and how's that factoring into the guide? Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:22:17Hi, Mark. Thank you for the question. As we're dealing with the hurricanes, our first priority is always to ensure the safety of our staff and provide support to our impacted team members in a situation like this and be able to really resume operations just as quickly as possible because we do play a critical role in the cleanup efforts in the communities in which we serve. PeopleReady provides on-demand support in disaster recovery efforts. We're currently working with more than 20 organizations that are focused on those cleanup efforts. In the upcoming months, as construction plans are approved and permits are awarded, our PeopleReady Skilled Trades business will play a role in restoration and rebuilding. In regards to Helene and Milton specifically, we were able to quickly resume operations in all impacted areas. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:23:16Our branch office in Asheville, North Carolina, was damaged, so the team is working from a mobile unit for business continuity in that area, and because the associate pool is quite limited in Asheville, we have brought in our traveling teams to meet the customer's needs and, again, be able to play the critical role of supporting the community. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:23:40And just to add on to that, I know you're kind of from a financial standpoint, you're asking for the impact. These typically have an immediate negative impact for us, Mark, and then they tend to be, call it net neutral, slightly positive for us as we do those cleanup efforts that Taryn was talking about. The timing of these hurricanes did have a slight impact on Q3 and Q4 with kind of both of them. It was about $700,000 for Q3 with Helene and approximately a negative impact of about $900,000 for Milton in October here. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:24:13You don't think that the subsequent rebound in terms of all the work is going to be significantly more than what the negative was? Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:24:23We do. I mean, if we look at all of these kind of over time, it is, again, I would say it is net neutral to net positive, depending on the impact and where our cleanup efforts are. We have those in our guides, and we would start to see that over a longer period of time as those recoveries come in, and that's included into our outlook. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:24:41Okay. Can you talk a little bit about the renewables business? I mean, you mentioned that it's slowed down and understandable in terms of the weather impacts, but how quickly do you expect that to resume, particularly now that it's getting a little bit cooler? Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:24:59I'll start. From a renewables perspective, certainly our pipeline remains strong. We actually secured four new logos in our PeopleReady Renewable business for those large-scale utility solar projects in the quarter, which will bring revenue in 2025. So this is a lumpy business, but we still feel very confident in the mid and long-term opportunity here. It was really weather impact in a couple of states where we had some large sites and some hot weather. I would just say, in addition to the PeopleReady Renewable business that we've talked about historically, Mark, we have started to see some wins outside of PeopleReady as well. Our People Management business secured wins with a solar company that does solar panel manufacturing in New Mexico. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:25:57So we're excited about that, as well as another new win where we'll provide skilled roles in solar and electrical and beyond. And then finally, PeopleScout had a recent win with a clean energy company to hire engineering roles. So as much as we continue to focus on the renewable business that we've talked about, we are starting to get some opportunities outside of that as well. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:26:25Thanks. And then lastly, just with regards to the hospitality company, it sounds like that's a broad-based move that they're making towards insourcing. Can you talk about what you're seeing with some of your other large clients just in terms of discussions with them? How much of them are maintaining the contracts but have continued to use internal resources to a greater extent? And what are your net promoter scores or any other form of feedback? How's that trending with some of your existing RPO clients? Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:27:14Yeah. Thanks for the question. This hospitality client was a unique business decision, and I would call it an outlier from what we are experiencing and seeing from our other customers in terms of a business strategy change to outsource or to insource, rather, for the long term. Across the rest of our customer base, we're seeing lower volumes. And in cases where recruiting volumes are extremely low, we do see clients take some of that outsource recruitment in-house, really in an effort to retain their in-house recruiting teams and keep them busy. And as we've been talking to these customers, we have the contracts alive. We're staying close to them, and we fully expect to be part of their long-term solution once those volumes return and exceed the capacity of their in-house recruiting teams. And we've seen this in prior cycles as well. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:28:20Really, by the nature of the RPO business, we are built to support our customers' ability to scale up and down during various hiring volumes, and we believe that RPO will return to historical growth rates. We're getting great feedback from the customers. We check in with them regularly, and we're certainly well-positioned to support them as their needs change and expand. Mark MarconSenior Research Analyst at Baird00:28:51Thank you. Operator00:28:54Our next question comes from Karthik Mehta with North Coast Research. Please state your question. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:29:01Hi. Good evening. Maybe, Carl, just thoughts on how the quarter trended and what you saw maybe in October, just to get a feel for how business trends have been? Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:29:18Yeah. Thanks, Karthik, for the question. As I kind of mentioned, when we think about kind of October and our Q4 guides, October really trended in line with those mid-point guides I gave earlier. So that's at minus on a comparable basis, minus 14 for TrueBlue, minus 15 for PeopleReady, minus 7 for People Management, and minus 28 for PeopleScout. So right in line with our outlook and guidance. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:29:45Taryn, just curious how your customers react, maybe how business is trending because of the holiday season this year in December, kind of an odd day, maybe taking out two weeks of business. I'm wondering if that is having any impact on your business. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:30:07I would say that just overall, from a customer sentiment perspective, our customers just continue to communicate that it's an uncertain environment. They're using caution and really being mindful of their future workforce plans. As far as an inflection point, they're certainly looking for more certainty so they can feel confident in planning those workforce needs. Our best indicator is when our customers say that they need our help. We're staying highly engaged to ensure that we're well-positioned, and we're really close to our customers around their workforce needs now and through the end of the year, and our guidance reflects that. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:30:59Just one last question, Carl. I know we talked a little bit about this last quarter, which is the leverage in the business. You've taken some actions in the business to lower the costs. And I'm wondering, as you look at incremental margins for the business, when this industry gets back to kind of normalize, and obviously, you'll see some increased revenue growth, I'm wondering, what type of incremental margins would you expect if, let's say, we get revenue growth of 10%-20%? Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:31:34Yeah. Thanks, Karthik, again, for the question. So yeah, I think we've done a really good job managing costs this year as we kind of guided to continued cost management. We've taken out over $70 million of cost this year, and we do think it will lead to improved margins. So I think we talked about this on the last call as well, but if you just took kind of a 10% revenue growth across our business, we historically have kind of incremental margin of 15%-20%. We feel like with the cost actions that we've made, we're going to be north of 20%, call it 20%-22%, maybe even do a little bit better, depending on the segment where that comes in. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:32:12But if you just took it across our model, we'd look at anywhere from 30 to even 50 basis points of margin improvement to kind of historical margins. So we're pleased with the work we've done there, but still yet to see kind of that indication of that demand returning to those levels. But when they do, we'd expect for higher profitability than we've historically seen. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:32:37And if I could add to that, there's another benefit that has come from the org structure work that we've done as an organization. We're seeing improvement in several of our key metrics, things like fill rates, associate utilization, improved safety scores, and our cross-selling efforts and wins have increased as well. Just a couple of examples from the quarter. We won a joint pursuit by PeopleReady and People Management to serve a scrap metal company. And PeopleScout just secured a new win serving a pharmaceutical client in partnership with our People Management team. So the ability to break down some of these silos and have our teams working closer in collaboration has been a real benefit. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:33:25Perfect. Thank you very much. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:33:27Thanks, Karthik. Carl SchweihsCFO at TrueBlue00:33:28Thanks, Karthik. Operator00:33:30Thank you. And just a reminder to the audience, to ask a question, press Star one on your telephone keypad. To remove yourself from the queue, press Star two. Our next question comes from Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company. Please state your question. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:33:47Hi. Good evening. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:33:49Good evening, Marc. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:33:51So I was wondering if we could talk a little bit about JobStack and the commentary around the timing and how things are going with the rollout. And it certainly sounds like it's encouraging from an initial perspective. Maybe you could talk a little bit about, I guess, the commentary wasn't being ahead of schedule. And then maybe you could sort of talk a little bit about what your initial impressions are or if there's any areas that, as far as feedback that you're receiving, that you can share, that would be great. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:34:22Thanks for the question, Marc. Yes, we are very happy to have successfully rolled out our new proprietary JobStack app across our branch network and national account base well ahead of schedule. Just as a reminder, this new version allows us to control our roadmap and quickly address our evolving user needs, both on the customer as well as the associate side. And we're already gaining some positive momentum from the initial launch with our enhanced ability to really quickly address their feedback and their needs. So I'll just give a couple of examples. First, we implemented a text-to-apply feature that makes it easier for our candidates to access our new app, which enhances their user experience and ultimately streamlines the job search process for them. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:35:19And just in the first couple of months, we've seen an improvement to the adoption rates as more candidates are turning to the app to engage with our services. And on the customer side, we made an order extension feature more intuitive, making it easier for a customer to essentially extend an associate that is working on their customer site in a very easy and user-friendly way. As we move forward here, we have a robust roadmap that's really focused on features and functionality that is designed to enable growth for the organization. So we're really excited about it and anxious to continue to build on this asset. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:36:11Excellent. And then I was sort of thinking about the maybe we sort of share some thoughts as to any of the I think you prepared remarks. You made some commentary around certain areas and certain places that might be viewed as bright spots. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about maybe is that industry focus-wise, sector focus-wise, or geographically, or where our bright spots are at this point. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:36:39Yeah. I'll get us started. A couple that I would highlight is renewable. I mentioned earlier that we've continued to get some wins in the PeopleReady business as we prepare for further growth as we move forward here, and seeing some wins in this space in businesses outside of PeopleReady is something that we're really excited about. On the skilled side, we've had nice growth in our commercial trucking business where we've seen some customer expansions and new logo wins there, and in healthcare, PeopleScout has secured six new wins in healthcare so far this year, supporting a variety of clinical roles, and we had a recent win in People Management, supporting a pharmaceutical company with driver positions in healthcare, and then finally, we've talked about our efforts to expand the roles we serve in PeopleScout to higher skilled placements. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:37:44And so happy to report that PeopleScout won a full-cycle RPO deal recently with a U.S.-based global technology firm where we'll hire 250 professional and technical hires in their insurance services business in Australia. And we'll then move to further expand support in India, U.S., and beyond. So making some really good progress in that area as well. Marc RiddickSenior Equity Research Analyst at Sidoti & Company00:38:13Okay. Great. I guess that's it for me. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:38:16Thanks, Marc. Kartik MehtaResearch Analyst at Northcoast Research Partners00:38:17Thanks, Marc. Operator00:38:20Thank you. And at this time, I'm showing no additional questions, so I'll hand it back to Taryn Owen for closing remarks. Thank you. Taryn OwenPresident and CEO at TrueBlue00:38:27Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I also want to take this opportunity to thank the entire TrueBlue team for their tremendous efforts in providing our customers and associates with exceptional service and for their commitment to advancing our mission to connect people and work. We look forward to speaking to you at upcoming investor events and on our next quarterly call. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Have a great evening. Thank you. Operator00:38:56Thanks. That concludes today's call. 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