EuroDry Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • For Q1 2024, EuroDry reported total net revenues of $14.4 million, a 27.2% increase year-over-year, and generated an adjusted EBITDA of $2.1 million.
  • The company incurred a net loss of $1.8 million (EPS loss of $0.65), primarily driven by costs and 17 days of off-hire related to two dry dockings and an auxiliary boiler repair.
  • As of May 21, 2024, EuroDry repurchased 300,000 shares for $4.7 million under its existing $10 million buyback program.
  • Panamax 1-year time charter rates hit $16,150 per day (20% above historical median) and spot rates climbed to ~$15,000 per day by mid-May, bolstering revenue prospects.
  • With an estimated fleet market value of $262 million versus book value of $200 million, the company’s NAV exceeds $60 per share, trading at a ~65% discount to market price.
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Earnings Conference Call
EuroDry Q1 2024
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Operator

Thank you for standing by, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the EuroDry Ltd. conference call on the first quarter 2024 financial results. We have Mr. Aristides Pittas, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Tasos Aslidis, Chief Financial Officer of the company. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session, at which time, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today. Please be reminded that the company announced its results with a press release that has been publicly distributed. Before passing the floor to Mr. Pittas, I would like to remind everyone that in today's presentation and conference call, EuroDry will be making forward-looking statements.

Operator

These statements are within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Matters discussed may be forward-looking statements, which are based on current management expectations that involve risks and uncertainties that may result in such expectations not being realized. I kindly draw your attention to slide number two of the webcast presentation, which has the full forward-looking statement, and the same statement was also included in the press release. Please take a moment to go through the whole statement and read it. Now I'd like to pass the floor to Mr. Pittas. Please go ahead, sir.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you all for joining us today for our scheduled conference call. Together with me is Tasos Aslidis, our Chief Financial Officer. The purpose of today's call is to discuss our financial results for the three-month period ended March 31, 2024. Please turn to slide three of the presentation. Our financial highlights are shown here. For the first quarter of 2024, we reported total net revenues of $14.4 million and a net loss attributable to controlling shareholders of $1.8 million, or $0.65 loss per basic and diluted share. Adjusted net loss attributable to controlling shareholders for the quarter was $3.2 million or $1.18 loss per basic and diluted shares. Adjusted EBITDA for the period was $2.1 million.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Please turn to the press release for a reconciliation of adjusted net income and Adjusted EBITDA. Our CFO, Tasos Aslidis, will go over our financial highlights in more detail later on in the presentation. As of May 21, 2024, we have repurchased a total of about 300,000 shares of our common stock in the open market for a total of $4.7 million under our share repurchase program of up to $10 million announced in August 2022. The plan was renewed in August 2023 for another year. Please turn to slide four for an overview of our sales and purchase chartering and dry docking highlights.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

On the chartering side, most of our vessels are employed in short-term charters, while motor vessel Ekaterini continues to be employed under an index-linked charter until March 2025 at 105.5% of the average Baltic Kamsarmax Index, the index based on the five Kamsarmax time charter routes. You can see the specifics of the various charters we fixed in the accompanying presentation. We plan to continue trading spots for the time being, but if charter rates firm further, we will consider securing a portion of our vessels' earnings via time charter or FFAs. Regarding dry dockings and repairs during the quarter, we had two vessels undergoing dry dock, motor vessel Blessed Luck and motor vessel Molyvos Luck. Motor vessel Starlight underwent its dry dock in April. In addition, Blessed Luck was operationally off-hired for 17 days due to a damage of the auxiliary boiler.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

The cost of the repairs will be covered by the ship's hull and machinery underwriters in full, but unfortunately, the time lost is not. The cost of the two dry docks and the resulting idle time, together with the idle time of the Blessed Luck during the repairs, are the primary factors for the loss we incurred during this quarter. Please turn to slide five. EuroDry's fleet consists of 13 vessels, including five Panamax dry bulk carriers, five Ultramax vessels, two Kamsarmax, and a Supramax dry bulk carrier. Our 13 dry bulk carriers have a total cargo capacity of about 1 million deadweight tons and an average age of 13.5 years. At this point, I'd like to remind you, as previously announced in our last earnings call, that EuroDry owns 61% of the entities that own motor vessels Christos K. and Maria.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

The remaining 39% is owned by owners represented by NRP Project Finance, otherwise referred to as the NRP investors. Please now turn to slide six for a further update on our fleet employment. As you can see, fixed rate covers for the remainder of 2024 stands at around 27%.... Turning to slide seven, we go over the market highlights for the first quarter, ended March 31st, 2024, and up until recently. Spot rates continued their momentum from late 2023 and experienced an unusually strong first quarter, supported by key commodity exports and the Red Sea and Panama Canal disruption, counter to the typical seasonal trends. In the first quarter of 2024, the average spot market rate for Panamax hovered around $13,600 per day. By May 17, the spot rates had increased to approximately $15,000 per day.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

In parallel, the one-year time charter rates for Panamax were around $15,600 per day during the first quarter, rising to $16,150 by May 17, versus about $14,300 last year. Improving one-year rates relative to spot prices may suggest that overall, the sector seems set for a more positive 2024 than 2023. Please now turn to slide nine. The IMF's latest update in April 2024 projects that the global economy will continue to grow at 3.2% in 2024, the same pace as in 2023, and this growth rate is expected to continue into 2025. This is largely due to a sizable improvement in the economic outlook for the United States, offset by a more modest slowdown in emerging and developing economies.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

In one of the biggest changes, Russia's 2024 growth forecast was increased to 3.2% from the 2.6% projected by the IMF in January 2024, due to continued strong oil exports amid higher global oil prices, despite the price cap mechanism imposed by Western countries, as well as strong government spending and investments related to war production, along with higher consumer spending in a tight labor market. The IMF also upgraded Russia's 2025 growth forecast to 1.8% from 1.1% previously. Clearly, the sanctions imposed by the West do not seem to be working. The forecast for the next five years globally is at its lowest in decades, at 3.1%.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Global inflation is declining steadily and is projected to lower from 6.8% in 2023 to 5.9% in 2024, and 4.5% in 2025, with advanced economies returning to their inflation targets sooner than emerging market and developing economies. The global economy remains surprisingly resilient, despite significant central bank interest rate hikes to repair the price stability. Most banks now anticipate that the three Federal Reserve rate cuts projected for the end of 2024 will be reduced to one due to this persistent inflation. For shipping, we continue to closely monitor China's economy, which is affected by the enduring downturn in its property sector. The Chinese economy is forecast to grow by only 4.6% in 2024 and 4.1% in 2025.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

However, China's economic woes may further intensify due to trade tensions in an already weakened geopolitical environment, and stability may take even longer to be restored. On the other hand, though, growth in India is projected to remain strong at 6.8% in 2024 and 6.5% in 2025, with robustness reflecting strong domestic demand and the rising working age population. Finally, the ASEAN Five, according to the IMF, will continue to grow quite strongly in the next couple of years, providing significant shipping support. According to Clarksons, demand for dry bulk trade is presently expected to grow by 2.4% in 2024, slightly below the fleet growth. This includes about a 0.6% uplift for full year 2024 due to the Red Sea and Panama Canal disruptions.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

A longer duration of disruptions in these regions could potentially drive demand higher. In addition, the combined effect on demand, due to slower average speeds and increased congestion, could lend further support for stronger dry bulk demand in 2024. Demand in 2025 is projected by Clarksons to grow by about 1.5%, assuming the Red Sea disruption has eased by the end of this year. Please turn to slide 10. Uncertainty about the future of fuels and high new building prices have led to the low order book continuing. As of May 2024, the order book as a percentage of total fleet is at only 9.3%, near the lowest historical levels. This suggests low fleet growth over the next two to three years.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Complementing this low fleet growth, we also have the effect of increased slow steaming and expected scrapping due to the introduction of the new environmental regulations. This could reduce the effective available bulk supply even further. Turning to slide 11, let us now look into the supply fundamentals in a bit more detail. As of May 2024, the total dry bulk vessel operating fleet was 13,700 vessels. According to Clarksons' latest report, new deliveries as a percentage of total fleet are expected to be 3.6% in 2024, 3.2% in 2025, and 3.5% in 2026 onwards. The actual fleet growth is, of course, expected to be lower than the aforementioned figures due to scrapping and slippage.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Also note that 9% of the fleet is older than 20 years old and therefore a good candidate for scrapping, especially if the market remains at current levels or lower. Please turn to slide 12, where we summarize our outlook for the dry bulk market. Dry bulk shipping saw a modest decline during the first quarter of 2024, following a peak in December. Despite this decrease, Q1 of 2024 marks the highest market level for this typically slow season since 2010, with the exception of 2022, primarily due to the geopolitical and weather-related disruptions, as discussed previously. The outlook for the remainder of 2024 suggests a robust bulk carrier market with rates around current levels. The recent strength in market conditions is largely attributable to tensions in the Suez Canal, which have significantly increased ton miles.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

As and when these disruptions begin to ease or resolve, demand patterns are anticipated to normalize, although this adjustment may take a considerable amount of time to fully materialize. Clarksons assumes Red Sea rerouting is currently adding 1.2% to dry bulk ton mile demand. Assuming half a year of rerouting due to these disruptions, which will then ease back to normal, this adds 0.6% to the full year of 2024 ton mile demand growth. Assuming subsequent easing, this will subtract a similar figure from 2025 ton mile demand growth. It is all quite uncertain, though, and will largely depend on the geopolitical developments, so it is possible that disruption could ease quickly or could take significant amount of time.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

In any event, in 2025, bunker earnings are expected to be softer as diminished fleet, fleet inefficiencies and the cumulative growth of the fleet in recent years have offset the strong trade rebound. On the other hand, the decarbonization process is expected to affect trade lines and dry bulk volumes going forward, positively by resulting in slower speeds and more scrapping, but negatively if less coal is transported. The overall effect on the market is hard to predict. On the supply side, though, the ordering of new ships has been very limited due to the lack of available slots at shipyards and uncertainty about the fuel of the future, despite significant orders for methanol-fueled ships. The order book to fleet ratio remains nearly historically low levels, as said before, setting the stage for a potential recovery in charter rates should demand increase.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Furthermore, introduction of emissions regulation-related measures could further curtail supply via increased scrapping or slower operational speed for a portion of the fleet. EEXI, CII, EU ETS, FuelEU are all new acronyms the industry will need to cope with, and more are to come. Let's turn to slide 13. The left side of the slide shows the evolution of one-year time charter rates of Panamax dry vessels over the last 20 years. As of May 17, 2024, the one-year time charter rate for Panamax ships with a capacity of 75,000 deadweight tons stood at $16,150 per day, which is about 20% above the historical median of around $13,500 per day.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

On the other hand, 10-year-old Panamax vessel prices have reached the maximum price seen in the last 10 years, around $29.5 million, as can be seen in the right-hand side graph. This is significantly higher than the 10-year historical average, average price of $16.8 million and, median price of $14.75 million. At current secondhand prices, we are reluctant to purchase more vessels. We are happy to keep on running the fleet at market rates, strengthening the balance sheet, reducing debt and waiting for new opportunities to present themselves. Let me now pass the floor over to our CFO, Tasos Aslidis, to go over the various financial highlights in more detail.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Thank you very much, Aristides. Good morning from me as well, ladies and gentlemen. Over the next four slides, I will give you an overview of our financial highlights for the first quarter of 2024, and compare those results to the same period of last year. For that, let's turn to slide 15. For the first quarter of 2024, the company reported total net revenues of $14.4 million, representing a 27.2% increase over total net revenues of $11.3 million during the first quarter of last year. This was the result of the increased time charter rate our vessels earned during the first quarter of this year, plus the increased number of vessels we operated this quarter compared to the same quarter of the previous year.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

The company reported net loss for the period of $1.9 million and a net loss attributable to controlling shareholders for the period of $1.78 million, as compared to a net loss attributable to controlling shareholders of $1.54 million for the same period of 2023. The net loss attributable to the non-controlling shareholders of $0.13 million in the first quarter of this year represents the loss that corresponds to the 39% ownership of the entities represented by the NRP investors, as Aristides explained earlier. Interest and other financing costs, including interest income, for the first quarter of 2024 increased to $2.04 million, as compared to $1.23 million for the same period of last year.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Interest expense during the first quarter of 2024 was higher, mainly due to the increased amount of debt and the increased benchmark rates that our loans had to pay, while interest income was lower due to lower cash balances we carried during the period, as compared to the same period of 2023. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of this year was $2.07 million, compared to $2.36 million during the first quarter of 2023.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Basic and diluted loss per share attributable to controlling shareholders for the first quarter of 2024 was $0.65, calculated on about 2.8 million shares, basic and diluted, weighted average number of shares outstanding, compared to basic and diluted loss per share of $0.55 for the first quarter of last year, calculated on also about 2.8 million shares, basic and diluted. Excluding the effect on the net loss attributable to the controlling shareholders for the quarter of the unrealized gain on derivatives, the adjusted loss for the quarter ended March 31st, 2024, would have been $1.18, basic and diluted, compared to adjusted earnings of $0.14 per share, basic and diluted again, for the same period of last year. Let's now turn to slide 16 to review our fleet performance.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

As usual, we will start our review by first examining the utilization rates for the first quarter of this year and compared to last year. Our fleet utilization rate is broken down to commercial and operational. During the first quarter of this year, our commercial utilization rate was 100%, while our operational utilization rate was 98.1%, compared to 99.8% commercial and 99.7% operational for the first quarter of 2023. On average, 13 vessels were owned and operated during the first quarter of this year, earning an average time charter equivalent rate of $12,455 per day, compared to 10 vessels in the same period of last year, earning on average $10,674 per vessel, per day.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Our total daily operating expenses, including management fees, general and administrative expenses, but excluding dry docking costs, were $6,867 per vessel per day during the first quarter of this year, compared to $6,953 per vessel per day for the first quarter of 2023. If we move further down on this table, we can see the Cash Flow Breakeven levels, which takes into account, in addition to the above, the dry docking expenses, interest expenses and loan repayments. For the first quarter of 2024, our daily Cash Flow Breakeven level was $12,440 per vessel per day, compared to $13,186 per vessel per day for the same period of 2023. Turning now to slide 17, to review our debt profile.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

As of March 31st, 2024, our outstanding bank debt was $101.46 million, and it is projected to decline to about $67.5 million by the end of 2026. In the remainder of this year, our total debt repayments, including balloon payments, amount to about $14.7 million, for a total for the year of about $18 million. Then, in both 2025 and 2026, loan repayments are due to decrease to about $9.7 million per year, per year. Significantly, thus reducing our Cash Flow Breakeven level.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

It is worth mentioning on this slide, that the average margin of our debt, which is about 2.45%, and assuming a swap rate of about 3.532%, make the total cost of our debt, if we take also into account the reduced interest we're gonna pay for the portion of our debt that we have swapped, make the overall cost of our debt at around 7.56%. At the bottom of this slide, we can see our projected Cash Flow Breakeven level for the next 12 months, broken down into its various components.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Overall, we expect our cash flow breakeven level to be around $12,535 per vessel per day, and our EBITDA breakeven level to be around $8,513 per vessel per day for the next 12 months, as I mentioned. Let me now conclude my brief financial presentation by moving to slide 18, where we can see some highlights from our balance sheet in a simplistic way, taking basically a snapshot of our assets and liabilities. As of March 31st, 2024, cash and other current assets in our balance sheet stood at about $27 million. The book value of our vessels was approximately $200 million, resulting in total book value of our assets of about $227.4 million.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

On our liability side, as I mentioned earlier, our debt as of March 31st, 2024, was about $101.5 million, representing approximately 44.7% of the book value of our assets, while other liabilities amounted to $8.8 million, about 3.7% of the book value of our assets. The remaining book value of $116.8 million represents the interests of our minority holdings, the NRP investors, of about $9.6 million, while the remaining $107.4 million of book value is attributed to our common shareholders, resulting in a book value of $38.35 per share.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

However, based on market transactions and other market reports, we estimate that the market value of our vessels was and is above their book value and stands at around $262 million. That is about $62 million higher than their book value, which is equivalent to about $20 per share, thus bringing our NAV per share to more than $60. Our share price, which is trading around $22 lately, represents a significant discount compared to our NAV, a discount of the order of 65%, a valuation gap that offers a significant upside potential for our shareholders and investors. And with that, let me turn the floor back to Aristides to continue the call.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Thank you, Tasos. Let me now open up the floor for any questions you may have.

Operator

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Tate Sullivan with Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.

Tate Sullivan
Tate Sullivan
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Maxim Group

Hello. Thank you. Good day. First on the debt repayment profile on slide 17. Tasos, is this debt that the existing loan repayment is something that you're looking to refinance before the end of the year, or will you use cash flow to, or will you prioritize using cash flow to pay down that debt, please?

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

I don't think we are planning to refinance any of, any of our debt in the near future. I, I believe, we are planning to repay the, to make repayments that are due in the remaining of the year from the cash flow we are gonna generate. And as you can see in that slide, the repayments drop significantly next year and the year after, reducing,

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

... our cash flow breakeven. We have balloon payments that are coming due in 2027, as you can see, and I suspect those we will be refinancing at the time.

Tate Sullivan
Tate Sullivan
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Maxim Group

Thank you. And then on the Blessed Luck in the quarter and the boiler damage, did that happen while in dry dock, in voyage and the expenses to repair it, is that within dry docking costs? Can you go into more detail on that, please?

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

No, this, this, this damage happened when we left the shipyard. It was an error of the crew on the shipyard was the cause that this happened. But it happened just after we had left the shipyard. It's an insurable cost, and all the repairs are covered. Unfortunately, the loss of time is not covered, so we lost 17 days of employment.

Tate Sullivan
Tate Sullivan
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Maxim Group

Can you approximate or can you not sure that the approximate cost to repair that should be insurable?

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

I think it's about $900,000. It's not a cheap repair, but as I said, it is not included in the numbers because it's fully insurable, so you will not find it-

Tate Sullivan
Tate Sullivan
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Maxim Group

Okay.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

either on the Dry Docking or the operating expenses.

Tate Sullivan
Tate Sullivan
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Maxim Group

Okay. Okay, thank you. Thank you. And then going forward, scheduled dry docks for the rest of the year, can you review that, please?

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

In this quarter, we only have one dry dock, which has already taken place, which is the Starlight. And we have three dry docks in Q3. I haven't looked as far as Q4, but-

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

There's no dry docks, nothing scheduled for Q4 this year?

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Nothing for Q4. So it's the three dry docks in Q3, really. That are still to come.

Tate Sullivan
Tate Sullivan
Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Maxim Group

Okay. Thank you very much.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to join the queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Poe Fratt with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Poe Fratt
Poe Fratt
Managing Director of Equity Research and Senior Transportation Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

Hello, Aristides, and hello, Tasos.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Hi, Poe.

Poe Fratt
Poe Fratt
Managing Director of Equity Research and Senior Transportation Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

I had a question, Aristides, about your 2025 outlook. You know, it seems like you're trying to signal that, you know, less congestion next year, less disruption, you know, a little bit more in supply growth and demand just growing a little bit modestly, you know, would potentially create a softer rate environment. Would you categorize your outlook as conservative or, you know, do you think it's sort of a base case or do you think it's sort of a conservative case and that you potentially get, you know, on if some of these, some of these things linger, it's a little bit better than you think?

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Yes. I think, I mean, we generally try to be quite conservative. But, in all honesty, it is extremely difficult to predict how the market will move under the current geopolitical situations, because they affect the trade, they affect economic growth, and nobody can really say what that would be. There are a few positives. The low supply growth is a positive. The fact that vessels are going slower due to the environmental regulations is a positive. The, these are strong positives. If demand turns out being quite strong in 2025, we can have a much better market. It's really difficult to decide. Having said that, the FFA market is also predicting a slightly lower market in 2025 than in 2024.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

So this is the information we currently have, very, very difficult to decipher and decide what the actual move will be. It can be... I mean, if there are geopolitical tensions, but the global economy does well, i.e., we have longer trade routes, but still the economy works well, we can have a very good market, but our base case is always quite conservative.

Poe Fratt
Poe Fratt
Managing Director of Equity Research and Senior Transportation Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

Yep, understood. And then in that context, I, I'm not sure if I heard anything about any FFA hedges for the, you know, the rest of the year. Do you have any in place? And then secondly, you know, with 1-year time charters in the sort of the mid- to high teens, would that be something that might be attractive given your outlook for 2025 or, you know, sort of the latter half of 2024 and the early part of 2025?

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Yes. Currently, as we said, all our ships are essentially on spot charters, trading the market. If we see a strengthening, in the next couple of months, we will probably fix, a portion of our fleet, at these higher numbers... either through normal time charters or through FFAs. We currently don't have any open FFA position. But, you know, if we see levels that are even more satisfactory than these levels, these levels, today's market levels are still profitable levels overall. This quarter, we had, the loss that we had due to the two dry docks, and, the off hire of the Blessed Luck, mainly. Also, we took, a loss on the FFAs that we had done. But, next quarter, we are cautiously optimistic that, we will return to profitability.

Poe Fratt
Poe Fratt
Managing Director of Equity Research and Senior Transportation Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

Understood. And then, Tasos, could you just sort of give some guidance for OpEx? So just OpEx should be just slightly up through the rest of the year relative to what you reported in the first quarter?

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

No, I think, we're pretty much on budget, for the first quarter. So, I mean, we, we would be ±2%-3%, I believe. It's hard to say, obviously. It, it's hard to say, but, we haven't seen any surprise on the OpEx so far.

Poe Fratt
Poe Fratt
Managing Director of Equity Research and Senior Transportation Analyst at Alliance Global Partners

Okay, great. Thank you, again.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Thank you, Poe. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Lars Eide with Arctic Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Lars Eide
Equity Research Analyst at Arctic Securities

Hi. Good morning.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Good morning. How are you?

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Good morning.

Lars Eide
Equity Research Analyst at Arctic Securities

Yes, so I guess, the last caller kind of touched upon my question. But as you noted in your report this morning, you're positioning your fleet for more market, market exposure moving forward. I guess in that context, your market view should be positive, I think, as you strategize and strategize, with like, with this, with this tool.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Sure. I mean, our base case is that, for the next few months, the market should be quite positive.

Lars Eide
Equity Research Analyst at Arctic Securities

Yeah. It was covered well up to the present quarter. Thank you.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to management for any final comments.

Aristides Pittas
Aristides Pittas
Chairman and CEO at EuroDry

Well, well, thank you all for listening in, in today's presentation. We will be back to you with Q2 results in about three months' time. Thank you.

Tasos Aslidis
Tasos Aslidis
CFO at EuroDry

Bye, everybody.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time.

Executives
    • Aristides Pittas
      Aristides Pittas
      Chairman and CEO
    • Tasos Aslidis
      Tasos Aslidis
      CFO
Analysts
    • Lars Eide
      Equity Research Analyst at Arctic Securities
    • Poe Fratt
      Managing Director of Equity Research and Senior Transportation Analyst at Alliance Global Partners
    • Tate Sullivan
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