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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Pangaea Logistics Solutions EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.10Consensus EPS $0.15Beat/MissMissed by -$0.05One Year Ago EPS$0.10Pangaea Logistics Solutions Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$131.50 millionExpected Revenue$98.09 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$33.41 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/APangaea Logistics Solutions Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, August 9, 2024Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsPangaea Logistics Solutions' Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, August 6, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, August 7, 2026 at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Pangaea Logistics Solutions Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 9, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Reported Q2 adjusted net income of $4.6 M and adjusted EBITDA of $15.9 M, flat YoY as a 4% uplift in TCE rates was offset by higher charter and vessel operating costs. Achieved average TCE rates of $16,223/day in Q2, a 7% premium to the benchmark index, and has already booked 1,674 shipping days for Q3 at $14,505/day. Expanded its owned fleet by purchasing two 58,000 DWT sister ships for $56.6 M and arranged a $50 M credit facility to fund these acquisitions. Noted an early acceleration of the Arctic trade season, booking over 3,298 days at an average TCE rate of $17,978/day and positioning for the seasonal peak. The terminal and stevedore segment delivered its highest profitability since acquisition, and the Port of Tampa expansion is expected to begin production in H2 2025. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallPangaea Logistics Solutions Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Savannah, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Pangaea Logistics Solutions Q2 2024 Earnings Teleconference. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning at 11 A.M. Eastern. The recording can be accessed by dialing 800-938-2378 domestic or 402-220-1129 international. All lines are currently muted, and after the prepared remarks, there will be a live question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during the Q&A segment, please press star one on your phone. If your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. We do ask that you please pick up your handset for optimal sound quality. Operator00:00:51It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Stefan Neely with Vallum Advisors. Please go ahead. Stefan NeelyPartner at Vallum Advisors00:00:59Thank you, operator, and welcome to the Pangaea Logistics Solutions Q2 2024 results conference call. Leading the call with me today is CEO Mark Filanowski, Chief Financial Officer Gianni Del Signore, and COO Mads Petersen. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements about future business and financial expectations. Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward-looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update our forward-looking statements. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Mark. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:01:45Thank you, Stefan, and welcome to those joining us on the call today. After the market closed yesterday, we issued a press release detailing our Q2 2024 results. Our results for the quarter represent consistent execution of our cargo-focused business model amid a seasonably stable period for the dry bulk market. While the Q2 is typically one of our softer quarters in terms of demand, our fleet was well utilized on cargo contracts with key customers in Atlantic trade routes. Our strong utilization and consistent execution resulted in earned TCE rates exceeding the benchmark index by 7%. We reported adjusted net income of $4.6 million for the Q2 and adjusted EBITDA of $15.9 million. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:02:37Our adjusted EBITDA was about flat with the Q2 of last year, as our achieved TCE rates improved 4% year-over-year, but were offset by higher charter and vessel operating expenses. At a macro level, the global demand for dry bulk remains strong and has proven to be resilient in the face of ongoing political disruption and bottlenecks in key trade routes. Nonetheless, the overall supply of new-build vessels remains constrained, which we believe will continue to put upward pressure on dry bulk rates in the near and intermediate term. The second half of the year represents a seasonal peak for our business due to heightened demand within our niche Arctic trade routes. Combined with our differentiated cargo-focused business model, we are well positioned to continue delivering consistent premium TCE returns relative to the prevailing market, while also navigating any potential market volatility. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:03:40While certain parts of the market have been under pressure since the end of the Q2, we are seeing strong demand as the Arctic trade season begins to accelerate. Through today, we've booked over 3,298 shipping days at an average TCE rate of $17,978 per day. Strategically, we were very focused on capital allocation during the Q2, continuing to fortify our balance sheet and opportunistically build our fleet of owned vessels. As we announced last quarter, we expanded our owned operating fleet of vessels by entering into an agreement to purchase two 58,000 deadweight ton sister ships, built in 2016, for a total consideration of $56.6 million. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:04:30We took delivery of the first of these two ships, the Bulk Brenton, in late July, and we will receive the Bulk Patience next week. Gianni will provide more specifics around our balance sheet here shortly, but I am happy to report we arranged financing for these two ships and refinanced balloon payments with a new $50 million credit facility with DNB Bank, another strong capital partner to our lending portfolio. During the quarter, our terminal and stevedore business delivered its highest level of profitability since we acquired the business in June of last year. We continue to focus on building out this segment with our Port of Tampa activity, scheduled to begin expanded production in the second half of 2025. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:05:19As we enter the peak demand season for our business in the second half of the year, we are well positioned to weather market volatility and deliver consistent return premiums over the prevailing market. Over the longer term, our cargo-focused business model, expanded fleet of vessels, and strategic presence in niche trade routes will enable us to continue delivering above-market returns, while our lean balance sheet supports our ability to utilize opportunistic growth capital investment and provide our shareholders with a consistent dividend program. With that, I'll turn it over to Gianni for further discussion of our Q2 results. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:06:04... Thank you, Mark, and welcome to all of those joining us today. Our Q2 financial results are highlighted by continued premium TCE returns and strong operating cash flow generation. Q2 TCE rates were approximately $16,223 per day, a premium of approximately 7% over the average published market rates for Supramax and Panamax vessels in the period, which is supported by strong demand within our key Atlantic trade routes and our contracts of affreightment, which locked in rates for cargo performance. Our Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was flat compared to the prior year, at $15.9 million. Our Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased 137 basis points to 12.1%, as higher charter hire and vessel operating expenses offset higher market rates and growth in total shipping days year-over-year. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:07:00Our total charter hire expense increased by 12% when compared to the Q2 of 2023, due to a 3% increase in total chartered-in days and a 45% increase in the prevailing market rates for Panamax and Supramax vessels. Our chartering cost on a per day basis was $16,583 per day in the Q2 of 2024, and through today, we've booked approximately 1,674 days at $14,505 per day for the third quarter. Vessel operating expenses, net of technical management fees, increased by 13% year-over-year, from an average of $5,517 per day last year to $6,246 per day in the Q2 of 2024. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:07:49The increase in expenses per day was primarily driven by timing of expenses incurred in the Q2 of 2024 versus 2023. However, for the six-month period ended June 30, vessel operating expenses, net of technical management fees, increased by only 3.5%, from $5,575 to 5,773 per day. In total, our reported GAAP net income attributable to Pangaea for the Q2 was $3.7 million, or $0.08 per diluted share, compared to $2.8 million, or $0.06 per diluted share in the Q2 of last year. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:08:26When excluding the impact of the unrealized loss from derivative instruments, as well as other non-GAAP adjustments, our reported adjusted net income attributable to Pangaea during the quarter was $4.6 million, or $0.10 per diluted share, which was flat when compared to the Q2 of 2023. Moving on to the cash flows. Total cash from operations increased by $6.9 million year-over-year to approximately $9 million, as stable profitability was bolstered by improved cash generation by net working capital. At quarter end, the company had $77.9 million in cash and total debt, including finance lease obligations, of approximately $253 million. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:09:10As Mark mentioned earlier, the Q2 was an active one from a financing perspective, as we paid off the final balloon payment on the Bulk Endurance, Bulk Pride, and Bulk Independence credit facility of approximately $20 million. We subsequently entered into a new $50 million facility, which was initially utilized to refinance the Bulk Endurance only for $17.6 million. The remaining capacity of this facility will be used for the delivery financing of the Bulk Brenton, which delivered in July, and the Bulk Patience, which will be delivered in August. The initial drawdown of $17.6 million is payable over five years, with a balloon payment at maturity of $9.7 million and an interest rate based on three-month SOFR plus 250 basis point spread. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:09:57Further, in July, we refinanced the Bulk Prudence with a new lender, generating $15.2 million of cash, payable over five years, with a balloon payment at maturity of $8.6 million and an interest rate based on three-month SOFR plus a 190 basis point spread. On a pro forma basis, after completion of these financings, our total debt to vessel book value is approximately 54%, which is flat when compared to the prior year period, and when adjusted for fair market value of our vessels, is approximately 43%. During the quarter, our overall interest expense remained flat relative to the prior year interest rates due to our fixed rate and capped rate debt, as well as benefits from interest yielding deposits, which generated nearly $700,000 in interest income. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:10:48At the end of the Q2, the ratio of net debt to trailing twelve-month Adjusted EBITDA was 2.1 times. In the near term, our capital allocation focus will be on maintaining our nimble balance sheet in order to continue opportunistic investments in growth through the expansion of our onshore footprint and owned vessel capacity. We are also continuing to prioritize a consistent return of capital strategy, as evidenced by our consistent dividend, which we believe can be sustained through all phases of the market cycle. With that, we will now open the line for questions. Operator00:11:25Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. Once again, that is star one to ask a question. Our first question will come from Liam Burke with B. Riley. Please go ahead. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:11:44Thank you. Good morning, Mark. Good morning, Gianni. Good morning, Mads. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:11:48Hello, Liam. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:11:51Mark, you just added two vessels, and on the fleet renewal program, you're balancing between chartered in and owned. Right now, the way you're looking at the market, depending on asset prices, would you be more inclined to stand pat, or would you add or subtract vessels here? Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:12:09... I think we want to stand pat for just a little bit, Liam, see where the market's headed. We've been looking for good ships for, you know, a while. Maybe, you know, we watched the market move up in front of us. We bid on a few ships late last year and early this year, and we were just behind the market a little bit, and we finally found a couple of ships that really fit our fleet nicely. So we were aggressive in getting those ships, and that satisfies us for a little while, I think. You know, not long term, but right now, I think we can take a breath. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:12:54Okay. Thank you. Gianni, you still have vessels under finance leases. Is there any opportunity to refinance those to further take down your debt, your interest expense? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:13:12Some of them, actually, one is coming due in September, Liam, and then others, we're, I think we're pretty comfortable. And I gave that pro forma sort of look at our debt balances against our assets, both from a book value and a fair value perspective. I think right now, you know, we were fortunate to be able to be, you know, flexible in our acquisition process, both last year with the port acquisition and then this year with a couple of ships. So I think that still remains important to us, to have that flexibility. And I think where we look at our sort of total balance sheet, I think we're pretty comfortable. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:13:57Not to say we won't attack that in the future if it presents itself, but I think where we are right now, and I think ultimately having that flexibility, I think is still important to us. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:14:09Great. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Gianni. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:14:12Yep. Operator00:14:16And again, that is star one, if you would like to ask a question. Our next question will come from Poe Fratt with A.G.P. Please go ahead. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:14:24Hey, good morning. The macro question I have is, you know, I'm just highlighting in your presentation that, you know, you talked about the Arctic trade accelerating, and I'm just wondering whether that's any different than previous years when you typically see an upturn, you know, in activity in the Arctic in the third quarter, or is there something different happening this year? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:14:56Yeah, I think the difference, Poe, is mainly an earlier start than we've had in previous years. I think that was what we were referring to there. The fleet of our ice class ships is fully committed to that trade for, you know, Q3 and a little longer than that. So yeah. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:15:17Does that mean that's going to end earlier? Is it a finite timeframe, or is that just a benefit this year that you'll see? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:15:27I think it's a little bit too early to say. You know, it's obviously dependent on, you know, the ice conditions up there in the end of October, right? But we certainly expect to have the same amount of business there this year. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:15:42Okay. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:15:42Timing of it might move a little bit. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:15:45Okay. And then in the same sentence or the same section, you say that market rates are mixed. Could you just expand on that comment? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:15:56Yeah, I think if you look at the overall market for the quarter, it's been sort of remarkably stable. But you know, individual pockets of the market, so geographical regions still have volatility, right? So I think when the quarter started, the Pacific was trading higher than the Atlantic, which is sort of an anomaly if you look at it in the longer view. That trend has sort of reversed in the last couple of months, so back to something that reflects the normal situation. So that's just what we're referring to there. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:16:29Okay. And are you seeing, Mads, any change in demand? There's a lot of concern about just the, you know, the macro, you know, economic picture out there. Any change in demand that you're seeing from your customers at this point in time? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:16:45I think our customers in our trades are still pretty optimistic. You know, in our Atlantic trade for sure around, you know, our construction materials, cement and aggregate and that stuff. Same on metallics. You know, pretty optimistic still. And I think, you know, macro sort of overall demand is up quarter-over-quarter compared to last year, right? So for reasons that also has to do with sort of the trade lane disruptions that we had talked about before, I think so, yeah. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:17:19Sounds good. And then, Mark, when you look at the overall, you know, fleet expanding to 26, is that sort of something we should look at stability going forward, or do you... Is there, you know, there are potentially opportunities to sell some older, so also to, you know, improve the age profile? Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:17:41Yeah. We're constantly looking at the fleet and ways to, you know, maintain the average age, Poe. So, I think you'll see us over time sell off some older ships and add newer ships. Of course, we do have an appetite to grow the fleet as well, so we're looking for opportunities to do that, in the right way, at the right time. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:18:09Okay. And then, Gianni, on the refinancing and just the financing front, you know, it, the Prudence, I think you refinanced and it looked like you paid down, you know, about $4.6 million of one of the facilities. Could you highlight which facility that $4.6 million came out of? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:18:31Yeah, we had the balloon, the final maturity on the Bulk Endurance, Bulk Pride, and Bulk Independence facility that came due in May within the quarter, right around the end of May. We subsequently took only the Endurance, and we refinanced her. So the balloon payment was around $21 million, and we refinanced the Endurance for about $17 million and kept the Pride and the Independence debt-free as of today. So that was in reference to that transaction. And then part of that transaction with the Endurance basically was the first step in that $50 million facility we put together in the quarter. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:19:21That gave us, you know, a lot more sort of flexibility going into the year where we could acquire those, the Brenton and the Patience. So yeah, that reduction was as part of that sort of transaction. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:19:38Okay. And then, you know, the $50 million in the secured facility, it looks like you've drawn down, you know, $32.8 million with the latest financing. Is that correct? And is... What would the remainder be used on? Is that to finance the Brenton? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:19:59So the first tranche was the Bulk Endurance at $17.6 million, and then the Bulk Brenton delivered on July. I think it was July 26th. It delivered, and we used around $15.6 million for the Brenton. And now the Bulk Patience is coming next week, August, between August 15th and August 20th. She's coming, and we'll use the balance of the facility for that. So we're basically, you know, we added a little capacity, right, on that facility, so we could have a hunting license to go out and acquire ships. But we were pretty quick to fill it. And after delivery of the Patience, the facility is basically full. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:20:51Okay. I guess I'm looking at the subsequent events in the 10-Q, and it references the $15.2 million senior secured term loan, which was financed with Bulk Prudence. Is that- Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:21:11Right. That was a separate... Yep, I, that was a separate... Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:21:15Okay. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:21:15Yep. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:21:15Totally separate. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:21:16The Bulk Prudence. Correct. The Bulk Prudence was a different facility, also closed, early in the third quarter, right around the second week of July. So, a sub-event for the Q2. But in our remarks just a few minutes ago, Paul, I do give sort of a pro forma. After completion of all these financings, what does our balance sheet from a leverage perspective look like from asset value, debt versus vessel asset value? And also, you know, we gave a comment about, from a fair market perspective as well, what we think, what we believe the leverage profile looks like as well. So that was... Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:22:03And those numbers are all after we complete these financings that we've discussed as subsequent events. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:22:10Yep. So Gianni, if you have it handy, could you run through the Brenton, you know, how much you drew down, what the interest rate spread, the amortization, and then the balloon payment, and the same with Patience, if you have that handy? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:22:25Sure. Yeah, no, absolutely. So the, the Brenton was a drawdown of $15.6 million. And it's part of the facility, so it's, SOFR plus 2.5, and it, it amortizes over 5 years to a, to a balloon of about $8 million. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:22:50Okay. And then the Prudence, I know that... Will that be roughly the same? So that'll be the 30- Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:22:57Prudence is actually quite similar to that. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:00I'm sorry, the Patience. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:23:02Oh, Patience, Patience will be very similar, correct. It falls into the same facility. It has the same five-year amortization, and the balloon will be very, very similar. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:16To the Brenton? So roughly the- Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:23:18Correct. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:19Okay. And so you're not going to actually fully draw down that $50 million of the... You'll have a little bit of, just a little bit of capacity. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:23:27We'll have a little bit of capacity. Obviously, we're not going to keep that capacity open. We'll cancel the remaining $1 million or $2 million that's there, and then we'll work with that bank on future deals, which is good. So we have another option at our disposal. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:46And then can you just talk about the port, you know, logistics business? You know, a really healthy increase in the third quarter. Is that seasonal, or is it something that, you know, will continue into the fourth quarter and into 2025? And then what's the impact of the expansion in Port Everglades, and how much capital are you putting into that expansion? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:24:14So as far as the margins in that business this year, we did. You know, we have the operation in Baltimore, which is pretty consistent, right? It's a monthly sort of a fee that we're being paid to operate that port, and it's pretty consistent volume. But with Everglades, it can be lumpy. It there are, you know, seasonal peaks. The Q2, we did have some dry bulk vessels come to port, which do drive higher margins. So and it was decent, you know, decent volume through the Q2. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:24:51We're, you know, we want to grow that business, and we're, you know, happy to see that there is, you know, some increasing volume there, but it's a focus for us, and we'll keep doing it. But it is lumpy, it is lumpy business, and it's seasonally driven, so. And then as far as the Mads will comment on a bit on the expansion. Mads PetersenCOO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:25:15But the expansion, Poe, just want to clarify, did you mean the Tampa expansion? Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:25:20Yeah, I'm sorry. The one that hits in the second half of 2025. Mads PetersenCOO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:25:24Yeah. All right. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:25:26I thought it was Port Everglades, but- Mads PetersenCOO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:25:29No, that's in the Redwing terminal in Tampa. It is not something that is expected to be a big draw on our capital. I think we're $3 million-$5 million, maybe. We will be operating that facility with JV partners, so it's a shared investment. So, we again expect that operation to be up and running in, I don't know, maybe Q3, late Q3 next year, second half for sure of the year. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:26:01Yeah. So far in Tampa, what we do have and what you're seeing in, maybe in our financials, is the ground lease. We have, we've leased two acres of space at the port, and it ends up on our balance sheet as a right of use asset and a lease liability. Pretty small number, but it is that that is the two-acre property that we're leasing there in Tampa. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:26:28Great. Thanks for your time. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:26:30Thanks, Poe. Operator00:26:35This will conclude today's question and answer session. I'd like to now turn the call back over to Mark Filanowski for closing comments. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:26:43Thank you all for joining us on a summer Friday morning. Please enjoy the rest of your day. Thanks. Thanks again. Operator00:26:53This will conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesGianni Del SignoreCFOMads PetersenCOOMark FilanowskiCEOAnalystsLiam BurkeManaging Director at B. 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The company operates a fleet of drybulk vessels, including Handysize, Supramax and Ultramax carriers, to transport commodities such as coal, grain, minerals, ores and steel products. In parallel, Pangaea offers asset-light logistics solutions spanning freight forwarding, supply chain management and project cargo services, enabling end-to-end transport for bulk and breakbulk shipments. Founded in 2012 as a spin-off from an established maritime shipping group, Pangaea Logistics Solutions went public on the Nasdaq in 2013 under the ticker PANL. The company is incorporated in Bermuda and maintains management offices in Purchase, New York. Over the years, it has expanded its shipping fleet and logistics network to support global trade lanes and respond to shifting commodity demand. Pangaea’s maritime division focuses on spot and long-term chartering, voyage planning and vessel operations, leveraging its technical and commercial expertise to optimize fleet utilization. Its logistics division provides door-to-door services, including customs clearance, inland transportation and handling of specialized project cargoes. This dual model allows Pangaea to capture value across the supply chain and offer tailored solutions for industrial and agricultural shippers. The company serves a broad geographic footprint spanning North and Latin America, Europe, Asia-Pacific and the Middle East. Pangaea is led by a senior management team with decades of experience in shipping, finance and logistics. Through strategic fleet additions, technology investments and partnership development, Pangaea Logistics Solutions aims to strengthen its position in the competitive drybulk shipping and logistics markets. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Savannah, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Pangaea Logistics Solutions Q2 2024 Earnings Teleconference. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning at 11 A.M. Eastern. The recording can be accessed by dialing 800-938-2378 domestic or 402-220-1129 international. All lines are currently muted, and after the prepared remarks, there will be a live question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during the Q&A segment, please press star one on your phone. If your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. We do ask that you please pick up your handset for optimal sound quality. Operator00:00:51It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Stefan Neely with Vallum Advisors. Please go ahead. Stefan NeelyPartner at Vallum Advisors00:00:59Thank you, operator, and welcome to the Pangaea Logistics Solutions Q2 2024 results conference call. Leading the call with me today is CEO Mark Filanowski, Chief Financial Officer Gianni Del Signore, and COO Mads Petersen. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements about future business and financial expectations. Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward-looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update our forward-looking statements. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Mark. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:01:45Thank you, Stefan, and welcome to those joining us on the call today. After the market closed yesterday, we issued a press release detailing our Q2 2024 results. Our results for the quarter represent consistent execution of our cargo-focused business model amid a seasonably stable period for the dry bulk market. While the Q2 is typically one of our softer quarters in terms of demand, our fleet was well utilized on cargo contracts with key customers in Atlantic trade routes. Our strong utilization and consistent execution resulted in earned TCE rates exceeding the benchmark index by 7%. We reported adjusted net income of $4.6 million for the Q2 and adjusted EBITDA of $15.9 million. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:02:37Our adjusted EBITDA was about flat with the Q2 of last year, as our achieved TCE rates improved 4% year-over-year, but were offset by higher charter and vessel operating expenses. At a macro level, the global demand for dry bulk remains strong and has proven to be resilient in the face of ongoing political disruption and bottlenecks in key trade routes. Nonetheless, the overall supply of new-build vessels remains constrained, which we believe will continue to put upward pressure on dry bulk rates in the near and intermediate term. The second half of the year represents a seasonal peak for our business due to heightened demand within our niche Arctic trade routes. Combined with our differentiated cargo-focused business model, we are well positioned to continue delivering consistent premium TCE returns relative to the prevailing market, while also navigating any potential market volatility. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:03:40While certain parts of the market have been under pressure since the end of the Q2, we are seeing strong demand as the Arctic trade season begins to accelerate. Through today, we've booked over 3,298 shipping days at an average TCE rate of $17,978 per day. Strategically, we were very focused on capital allocation during the Q2, continuing to fortify our balance sheet and opportunistically build our fleet of owned vessels. As we announced last quarter, we expanded our owned operating fleet of vessels by entering into an agreement to purchase two 58,000 deadweight ton sister ships, built in 2016, for a total consideration of $56.6 million. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:04:30We took delivery of the first of these two ships, the Bulk Brenton, in late July, and we will receive the Bulk Patience next week. Gianni will provide more specifics around our balance sheet here shortly, but I am happy to report we arranged financing for these two ships and refinanced balloon payments with a new $50 million credit facility with DNB Bank, another strong capital partner to our lending portfolio. During the quarter, our terminal and stevedore business delivered its highest level of profitability since we acquired the business in June of last year. We continue to focus on building out this segment with our Port of Tampa activity, scheduled to begin expanded production in the second half of 2025. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:05:19As we enter the peak demand season for our business in the second half of the year, we are well positioned to weather market volatility and deliver consistent return premiums over the prevailing market. Over the longer term, our cargo-focused business model, expanded fleet of vessels, and strategic presence in niche trade routes will enable us to continue delivering above-market returns, while our lean balance sheet supports our ability to utilize opportunistic growth capital investment and provide our shareholders with a consistent dividend program. With that, I'll turn it over to Gianni for further discussion of our Q2 results. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:06:04... Thank you, Mark, and welcome to all of those joining us today. Our Q2 financial results are highlighted by continued premium TCE returns and strong operating cash flow generation. Q2 TCE rates were approximately $16,223 per day, a premium of approximately 7% over the average published market rates for Supramax and Panamax vessels in the period, which is supported by strong demand within our key Atlantic trade routes and our contracts of affreightment, which locked in rates for cargo performance. Our Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was flat compared to the prior year, at $15.9 million. Our Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased 137 basis points to 12.1%, as higher charter hire and vessel operating expenses offset higher market rates and growth in total shipping days year-over-year. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:07:00Our total charter hire expense increased by 12% when compared to the Q2 of 2023, due to a 3% increase in total chartered-in days and a 45% increase in the prevailing market rates for Panamax and Supramax vessels. Our chartering cost on a per day basis was $16,583 per day in the Q2 of 2024, and through today, we've booked approximately 1,674 days at $14,505 per day for the third quarter. Vessel operating expenses, net of technical management fees, increased by 13% year-over-year, from an average of $5,517 per day last year to $6,246 per day in the Q2 of 2024. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:07:49The increase in expenses per day was primarily driven by timing of expenses incurred in the Q2 of 2024 versus 2023. However, for the six-month period ended June 30, vessel operating expenses, net of technical management fees, increased by only 3.5%, from $5,575 to 5,773 per day. In total, our reported GAAP net income attributable to Pangaea for the Q2 was $3.7 million, or $0.08 per diluted share, compared to $2.8 million, or $0.06 per diluted share in the Q2 of last year. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:08:26When excluding the impact of the unrealized loss from derivative instruments, as well as other non-GAAP adjustments, our reported adjusted net income attributable to Pangaea during the quarter was $4.6 million, or $0.10 per diluted share, which was flat when compared to the Q2 of 2023. Moving on to the cash flows. Total cash from operations increased by $6.9 million year-over-year to approximately $9 million, as stable profitability was bolstered by improved cash generation by net working capital. At quarter end, the company had $77.9 million in cash and total debt, including finance lease obligations, of approximately $253 million. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:09:10As Mark mentioned earlier, the Q2 was an active one from a financing perspective, as we paid off the final balloon payment on the Bulk Endurance, Bulk Pride, and Bulk Independence credit facility of approximately $20 million. We subsequently entered into a new $50 million facility, which was initially utilized to refinance the Bulk Endurance only for $17.6 million. The remaining capacity of this facility will be used for the delivery financing of the Bulk Brenton, which delivered in July, and the Bulk Patience, which will be delivered in August. The initial drawdown of $17.6 million is payable over five years, with a balloon payment at maturity of $9.7 million and an interest rate based on three-month SOFR plus 250 basis point spread. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:09:57Further, in July, we refinanced the Bulk Prudence with a new lender, generating $15.2 million of cash, payable over five years, with a balloon payment at maturity of $8.6 million and an interest rate based on three-month SOFR plus a 190 basis point spread. On a pro forma basis, after completion of these financings, our total debt to vessel book value is approximately 54%, which is flat when compared to the prior year period, and when adjusted for fair market value of our vessels, is approximately 43%. During the quarter, our overall interest expense remained flat relative to the prior year interest rates due to our fixed rate and capped rate debt, as well as benefits from interest yielding deposits, which generated nearly $700,000 in interest income. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:10:48At the end of the Q2, the ratio of net debt to trailing twelve-month Adjusted EBITDA was 2.1 times. In the near term, our capital allocation focus will be on maintaining our nimble balance sheet in order to continue opportunistic investments in growth through the expansion of our onshore footprint and owned vessel capacity. We are also continuing to prioritize a consistent return of capital strategy, as evidenced by our consistent dividend, which we believe can be sustained through all phases of the market cycle. With that, we will now open the line for questions. Operator00:11:25Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. Once again, that is star one to ask a question. Our first question will come from Liam Burke with B. Riley. Please go ahead. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:11:44Thank you. Good morning, Mark. Good morning, Gianni. Good morning, Mads. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:11:48Hello, Liam. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:11:51Mark, you just added two vessels, and on the fleet renewal program, you're balancing between chartered in and owned. Right now, the way you're looking at the market, depending on asset prices, would you be more inclined to stand pat, or would you add or subtract vessels here? Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:12:09... I think we want to stand pat for just a little bit, Liam, see where the market's headed. We've been looking for good ships for, you know, a while. Maybe, you know, we watched the market move up in front of us. We bid on a few ships late last year and early this year, and we were just behind the market a little bit, and we finally found a couple of ships that really fit our fleet nicely. So we were aggressive in getting those ships, and that satisfies us for a little while, I think. You know, not long term, but right now, I think we can take a breath. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:12:54Okay. Thank you. Gianni, you still have vessels under finance leases. Is there any opportunity to refinance those to further take down your debt, your interest expense? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:13:12Some of them, actually, one is coming due in September, Liam, and then others, we're, I think we're pretty comfortable. And I gave that pro forma sort of look at our debt balances against our assets, both from a book value and a fair value perspective. I think right now, you know, we were fortunate to be able to be, you know, flexible in our acquisition process, both last year with the port acquisition and then this year with a couple of ships. So I think that still remains important to us, to have that flexibility. And I think where we look at our sort of total balance sheet, I think we're pretty comfortable. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:13:57Not to say we won't attack that in the future if it presents itself, but I think where we are right now, and I think ultimately having that flexibility, I think is still important to us. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:14:09Great. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Gianni. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:14:12Yep. Operator00:14:16And again, that is star one, if you would like to ask a question. Our next question will come from Poe Fratt with A.G.P. Please go ahead. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:14:24Hey, good morning. The macro question I have is, you know, I'm just highlighting in your presentation that, you know, you talked about the Arctic trade accelerating, and I'm just wondering whether that's any different than previous years when you typically see an upturn, you know, in activity in the Arctic in the third quarter, or is there something different happening this year? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:14:56Yeah, I think the difference, Poe, is mainly an earlier start than we've had in previous years. I think that was what we were referring to there. The fleet of our ice class ships is fully committed to that trade for, you know, Q3 and a little longer than that. So yeah. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:15:17Does that mean that's going to end earlier? Is it a finite timeframe, or is that just a benefit this year that you'll see? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:15:27I think it's a little bit too early to say. You know, it's obviously dependent on, you know, the ice conditions up there in the end of October, right? But we certainly expect to have the same amount of business there this year. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:15:42Okay. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:15:42Timing of it might move a little bit. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:15:45Okay. And then in the same sentence or the same section, you say that market rates are mixed. Could you just expand on that comment? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:15:56Yeah, I think if you look at the overall market for the quarter, it's been sort of remarkably stable. But you know, individual pockets of the market, so geographical regions still have volatility, right? So I think when the quarter started, the Pacific was trading higher than the Atlantic, which is sort of an anomaly if you look at it in the longer view. That trend has sort of reversed in the last couple of months, so back to something that reflects the normal situation. So that's just what we're referring to there. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:16:29Okay. And are you seeing, Mads, any change in demand? There's a lot of concern about just the, you know, the macro, you know, economic picture out there. Any change in demand that you're seeing from your customers at this point in time? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:16:45I think our customers in our trades are still pretty optimistic. You know, in our Atlantic trade for sure around, you know, our construction materials, cement and aggregate and that stuff. Same on metallics. You know, pretty optimistic still. And I think, you know, macro sort of overall demand is up quarter-over-quarter compared to last year, right? So for reasons that also has to do with sort of the trade lane disruptions that we had talked about before, I think so, yeah. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:17:19Sounds good. And then, Mark, when you look at the overall, you know, fleet expanding to 26, is that sort of something we should look at stability going forward, or do you... Is there, you know, there are potentially opportunities to sell some older, so also to, you know, improve the age profile? Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:17:41Yeah. We're constantly looking at the fleet and ways to, you know, maintain the average age, Poe. So, I think you'll see us over time sell off some older ships and add newer ships. Of course, we do have an appetite to grow the fleet as well, so we're looking for opportunities to do that, in the right way, at the right time. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:18:09Okay. And then, Gianni, on the refinancing and just the financing front, you know, it, the Prudence, I think you refinanced and it looked like you paid down, you know, about $4.6 million of one of the facilities. Could you highlight which facility that $4.6 million came out of? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:18:31Yeah, we had the balloon, the final maturity on the Bulk Endurance, Bulk Pride, and Bulk Independence facility that came due in May within the quarter, right around the end of May. We subsequently took only the Endurance, and we refinanced her. So the balloon payment was around $21 million, and we refinanced the Endurance for about $17 million and kept the Pride and the Independence debt-free as of today. So that was in reference to that transaction. And then part of that transaction with the Endurance basically was the first step in that $50 million facility we put together in the quarter. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:19:21That gave us, you know, a lot more sort of flexibility going into the year where we could acquire those, the Brenton and the Patience. So yeah, that reduction was as part of that sort of transaction. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:19:38Okay. And then, you know, the $50 million in the secured facility, it looks like you've drawn down, you know, $32.8 million with the latest financing. Is that correct? And is... What would the remainder be used on? Is that to finance the Brenton? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:19:59So the first tranche was the Bulk Endurance at $17.6 million, and then the Bulk Brenton delivered on July. I think it was July 26th. It delivered, and we used around $15.6 million for the Brenton. And now the Bulk Patience is coming next week, August, between August 15th and August 20th. She's coming, and we'll use the balance of the facility for that. So we're basically, you know, we added a little capacity, right, on that facility, so we could have a hunting license to go out and acquire ships. But we were pretty quick to fill it. And after delivery of the Patience, the facility is basically full. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:20:51Okay. I guess I'm looking at the subsequent events in the 10-Q, and it references the $15.2 million senior secured term loan, which was financed with Bulk Prudence. Is that- Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:21:11Right. That was a separate... Yep, I, that was a separate... Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:21:15Okay. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:21:15Yep. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:21:15Totally separate. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:21:16The Bulk Prudence. Correct. The Bulk Prudence was a different facility, also closed, early in the third quarter, right around the second week of July. So, a sub-event for the Q2. But in our remarks just a few minutes ago, Paul, I do give sort of a pro forma. After completion of all these financings, what does our balance sheet from a leverage perspective look like from asset value, debt versus vessel asset value? And also, you know, we gave a comment about, from a fair market perspective as well, what we think, what we believe the leverage profile looks like as well. So that was... Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:22:03And those numbers are all after we complete these financings that we've discussed as subsequent events. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:22:10Yep. So Gianni, if you have it handy, could you run through the Brenton, you know, how much you drew down, what the interest rate spread, the amortization, and then the balloon payment, and the same with Patience, if you have that handy? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:22:25Sure. Yeah, no, absolutely. So the, the Brenton was a drawdown of $15.6 million. And it's part of the facility, so it's, SOFR plus 2.5, and it, it amortizes over 5 years to a, to a balloon of about $8 million. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:22:50Okay. And then the Prudence, I know that... Will that be roughly the same? So that'll be the 30- Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:22:57Prudence is actually quite similar to that. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:00I'm sorry, the Patience. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:23:02Oh, Patience, Patience will be very similar, correct. It falls into the same facility. It has the same five-year amortization, and the balloon will be very, very similar. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:16To the Brenton? So roughly the- Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:23:18Correct. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:19Okay. And so you're not going to actually fully draw down that $50 million of the... You'll have a little bit of, just a little bit of capacity. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:23:27We'll have a little bit of capacity. Obviously, we're not going to keep that capacity open. We'll cancel the remaining $1 million or $2 million that's there, and then we'll work with that bank on future deals, which is good. So we have another option at our disposal. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:23:46And then can you just talk about the port, you know, logistics business? You know, a really healthy increase in the third quarter. Is that seasonal, or is it something that, you know, will continue into the fourth quarter and into 2025? And then what's the impact of the expansion in Port Everglades, and how much capital are you putting into that expansion? Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:24:14So as far as the margins in that business this year, we did. You know, we have the operation in Baltimore, which is pretty consistent, right? It's a monthly sort of a fee that we're being paid to operate that port, and it's pretty consistent volume. But with Everglades, it can be lumpy. It there are, you know, seasonal peaks. The Q2, we did have some dry bulk vessels come to port, which do drive higher margins. So and it was decent, you know, decent volume through the Q2. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:24:51We're, you know, we want to grow that business, and we're, you know, happy to see that there is, you know, some increasing volume there, but it's a focus for us, and we'll keep doing it. But it is lumpy, it is lumpy business, and it's seasonally driven, so. And then as far as the Mads will comment on a bit on the expansion. Mads PetersenCOO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:25:15But the expansion, Poe, just want to clarify, did you mean the Tampa expansion? Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:25:20Yeah, I'm sorry. The one that hits in the second half of 2025. Mads PetersenCOO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:25:24Yeah. All right. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:25:26I thought it was Port Everglades, but- Mads PetersenCOO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:25:29No, that's in the Redwing terminal in Tampa. It is not something that is expected to be a big draw on our capital. I think we're $3 million-$5 million, maybe. We will be operating that facility with JV partners, so it's a shared investment. So, we again expect that operation to be up and running in, I don't know, maybe Q3, late Q3 next year, second half for sure of the year. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:26:01Yeah. So far in Tampa, what we do have and what you're seeing in, maybe in our financials, is the ground lease. We have, we've leased two acres of space at the port, and it ends up on our balance sheet as a right of use asset and a lease liability. Pretty small number, but it is that that is the two-acre property that we're leasing there in Tampa. Poe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.00:26:28Great. Thanks for your time. Gianni Del SignoreCFO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:26:30Thanks, Poe. Operator00:26:35This will conclude today's question and answer session. I'd like to now turn the call back over to Mark Filanowski for closing comments. Mark FilanowskiCEO at Pangaea Logistics Solutions00:26:43Thank you all for joining us on a summer Friday morning. Please enjoy the rest of your day. Thanks. Thanks again. Operator00:26:53This will conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesGianni Del SignoreCFOMads PetersenCOOMark FilanowskiCEOAnalystsLiam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley SecuritiesPoe FrattResearch Analyst at A.G.P.Stefan NeelyPartner at Vallum AdvisorsPowered by