NASDAQ:USCB USCB Financial Q4 2024 Earnings Report $17.11 +0.33 (+1.97%) Closing price 05/2/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$17.00 -0.11 (-0.64%) As of 05/2/2025 04:37 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast USCB Financial EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.34Consensus EPS $0.36Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/AUSCB Financial Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$22.41 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AUSCB Financial Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date1/23/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, January 24, 2025Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsUSCB Financial's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, July 24, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by USCB Financial Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 24, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the USCB Financial Holdings 4th Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lou de la Aguilera, President and CEO. Operator00:00:41Please go ahead. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:00:43Good morning, and thank you for joining us for USDB Financial Holdings 4th quarter 2024 earnings call. With me today reviewing our Q4 highlights is CFO, Rob Anderson and Chief Credit Officer, Bill Turner, who will provide an overview of the bank's performance, the highlights of which commence on Slide 3. Our results in Q4 2024 highlight a record year for the bank as team USCB outperformed our internal budget and delivered impressive results for our shareholders. A year ago, we posted $0.14 per share in diluted EPS in Q4 2023 and more than doubled these earnings this quarter to $0.34 per share. Our continued focus on reducing deposit costs has contributed to net interest margin expansion, helping us maintain solid profitability. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:01:33Benefiting from Florida's strong, resilient and growing economy, USCB continues to post strong gains in assets, deposits, diversified quality loan production and profitability. Our performance underscores our disciplined execution of a business plan, focus on commercial banking initiatives designed to profitably expand existing client relationships and grow new ones. In reviewing our Q4 highlights, I will comment on a select few data points as CFO Anderson will further detail our growth, profitability, capital and liquidity positions. Driven by our various deposit focused business lines, average deposits increased $225,000,000 or 11.8 percent compared to the Q4 of 2023. These business verticals which target deposit rich private clients, attorneys, medical professionals, as well as correspondent and association banking have grown to over $625,000,000 representing 30 percent of total deposits as of the end of the past quarter. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:02:32Average loans increased $260,000,000 or 15.3% compared to the Q4 of 2023. Our loan pricing has moved in line with the market as loan coupon rates decreased 7 basis points compared to the prior quarter, while increasing 46 basis points compared to the Q4 of 2023. As we look at profitability, net income was $6,900,000 or $0.34 per diluted share, an increase of $4,200,000 or 153.7 percent compared to the Q4 of 2023. Similarly, net interest income before provision increased $5,000,000 or 34.7 percent for the past quarter in comparison to the Q4 of 2023. ROAA was 1.08% for the Q4 of 2024 compared to 0.48% for the Q4 of 2023, while ROA was 12.73% for the past quarter, again compared to 5.8% for Q4 2023. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:03:36Given the earnings power of the company, our outlook for 2025 and the strong capital levels, the Board approved on January 21, 2025 to double the quarterly cash dividend to $0.10 per share of the company's Class A common stock. The dividend will be paid on March 5, 2025. The cash dividend program is an important driver to shareholder value and the Board of Directors is committed to the return of capital to our investors while maintaining a strong balance sheet. The following page is self explanatory, directionally showing historical trends since recapitalization. The disciplined execution of our business plan focused on developing the best people, products and processes has consistently delivered efficient, profitable performance guided by conservative risk management practices. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:04:26So now let's turn our attention to our specific financial results and key performance indicators, which will be reviewed by our CFO, Rob Anderson. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:04:36Okay. Thank you, Lou, and good morning, everyone. Looking at Pages 56, I'd characterize Q4 as another fantastic quarter for USDB. Net income was $0.34 per diluted share and absent the non recurring expenses would have been $0.38 per share and another record quarter for USDB. However, as reported return on average assets was 1.08%, return on average equity was 12.73%, the NIM was 3.16% and up 13 basis points from the prior quarter. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:05:07The efficiency ratio was 55.92% and adjusted for the non recurring expenses would have been 51.41 percent. Tangible book value per share retreated $0.09 to $10.81 driven by a higher AOCI interest rate mark and higher share count. And last, credit metrics remain benign. So with that overview, let's discuss deposits on the next page. Deposits continue to increase both on a linked quarter and year over year basis. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:05:37We have used excess liquidity to fund loan volume and walk away from rate sensitive deposits and single service product clients. Deposits decreased 18 basis points this quarter and the reduction in our cost of funds has been a fundamental driver in our net interest margin improvement. So with that, let's look at the loan book. Average loans increased $80,300,000 or 17% annualized compared to the prior quarter and $260,000,000 or 15.3% compared to the Q4 of 2023. Additionally, as we book new loans at yields above the portfolio average, our overall loan yields will remain stable or increased in the next couple of quarters as we continue to book loans with coupons above 7%. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:06:22As a reminder, we book all loans with floors and prepayment penalties, which could help us in a down rate scenario. As for guidance, we expect loan growth to be in high single digits to low double digits going forward, particularly Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:06:36since Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:06:36we have experienced high interest rate volatility in the last couple of weeks. Turning to Page 9, you can see for the past 5 quarters, we have originated $754,000,000 in new loans and for the Q4 we have originated $161,000,000 achieving a record quarter in terms of loan production with a loan coupon of 7.14 percent and in the last 5 quarters our weighted average coupon was 7.79 percent which helped to increase our yield on earning assets. And while the loan coupon ticked down this quarter, it is still 89 basis points above the portfolio average. Also worth noting is that we have been able to diversify our loan book over time. As of quarter end, non real estate loans are 27% of the total loan book. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:07:24Let's look at the margin. One of the most impressive accolades this year is the success story of the NIM. In 2024, our NIM went from 2.62 percent to 3.1 6%, an improvement of 54 basis points in a matter of 3 quarters. Equally impressive has been the improvement on net interest income. Compared to the Q4 of 2023, net interest income increased $5,000,000 or 34 point 7%. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:07:52As we enter 2025, this increase will generate significant earnings power going forward. The drivers include a lower deposit costs, larger balance sheet, higher loan yields and an improvement in our earning asset mix. Going forward, we believe the NIM will hover around current levels near term, but we can expect further expansion in 2025 given that more normalized yield curve. Moving on to Page 11. According to our ALM model, the bank's balance sheet is neutral for year 1 as we have made strategic changes in the last couple of quarters to prepare for a lower rate environment. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:08:27Most notably, we have favored money market retention rates over long term CD rates. We have focused on 3 to 6 month CD terms. Moreover, we will adjust the term of our liabilities depending on the current and expected interest rate scenario. For now, we are aiming for a neutral balance sheet. One of the benefits of having a neutral balance sheet is that the bank's financial performance can be more predictable in an uncertain rate environment. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:08:53As mentioned on earlier calls, we have also pruned the balance sheet from rate sensitive deposits and single service product clients. During the last couple of quarters, we have adjusted down our deposit rates without losing meaningful relationships. This has translated into a more resilient balance sheet. Additionally, if the Fed funds rate does drop this year that will help our deposit costs and with the rise in the 5, 7 10 year rates will help new origination loans at higher rates. In short, this will give us a more normalized yield curve, which is great for the banking industry in general, but will really benefit us as we tend to book loans at 5 years fixed rate with a spread over the U. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:09:39S. Treasury rates. With these changes, we believe our NIM performance can hold at the current levels near term and expand into 2025, especially if the yield curve normalizes. With that, let me turn it over to Bill to discuss asset quality. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:09:55Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Page 12. As you can see from the first graph, the allowance for credit losses increased to $24,000,000 in the 4th quarter. This was due to a $1,000,000 provision and the ratio increased 3 basis points to an adequate 1.22 percent of the portfolio. $650,000 of the provision is related to a consumer loan relationship consisting of a yacht and a tender vessel, which were repossessed during the Q4. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:10:23The remaining provision was driven by the $38,000,000 quarterly net loan growth. Net losses were 0 for the quarter the year. The remaining graphs on Page 12 show the non performing loans as of quarter end, which remained unchanged from the 3rd quarter at $2,700,000 and represents 0.14 percent of the portfolio. Classified loans increased slightly to 0.37% and represent less than 3% of capital. The bank continues to have no other real estate. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:10:54On Page 13, the first graph shows the loan portfolio mix at twelvethirty one. The portfolio increased $38,000,000 on a net basis in the 4th quarter to 1,970,000,000 dollars The composition continues to be well diversified. Commercial Real Estate represents 58 percent of the portfolio or $1,100,000,000 segmented between retail, multifamily, owner occupied and office properties. The second graph is a breakout of the commercial real estate portfolios for the non owner occupied and owner occupied loans, which also demonstrate their diversification. The table to the right of the graph show the weighted average loan to values of the commercial real estate portfolio at less than 60% and the debt service coverage ratios are adequate for each portfolio segment. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:11:43The loan quality and payment performances are good for all segments and the past due ratio remains at less than 0.5% and below peer banks. Overall, the quality of the portfolio remains good with past due ratios below peer banks. Rob? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:11:59Thank you, Bill. Outside of the NIM, fee businesses were the other bright spot in the quarter and for the year. The standout this quarter is the team's repeated performance in interest rate swaps. Since Q1 of this year, we have seen an uptick in clients managing their debt obligations with interest rate swaps. Additionally, we had $169,000 of prepayment penalties booked in other service fees line item. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:12:26With other line items straightforward, let's look at expenses. Our total expense base was $12,900,000 and contained over $1,000,000 in non recurring expenses. Salaries and benefits increased $730,000 and contained $620,000 of expenses related to an accelerated restricted stock award. These shares have a 3 year ratable vesting period, but for a couple executives, the first vesting period was recognized or vested in the last 2 months of the year. In 2025, we will have a more normalized vesting period on the stock grant. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:13:01Additionally, legal expenses increased $173,000 for various items and other operating expenses increased $174,000 related to forced placed insurance. We expect reimbursement for both items in the coming quarters. As noted on the slide, these non recurring expenses had a negative $0.04 per share impact on our fully diluted earnings per share for the quarter. On an adjusted basis, the efficiency ratio would have been 51.41 percent, which is more in line with our guidance and run rate improvement this year. Looking forward, we expect Q1 expense base to be around $12,000,000 and move up from there throughout 2025. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:13:42So with that, let's turn to capital. Three things to note on capital. First, we doubled the dividend to $0.10 per share. This increase is a direct result of the current performance and expected future performance of the bank. Next, AOCI increased to a negative $44,500,000 with an increase in interest rates across the 5, 7 10 year tenure points. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:14:06And as you know, this negatively impacts our tangible book value per share. And last, the end of period share count increased with a restricted share grant in Q4 and individuals exercising options in the quarter. So with that, let me turn it back to Lou for some closing comments. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:14:23Thanks, Rob. Our plans for 2025 are rooted on the ongoing strength of Florida's economy, which continues to attract industry entrepreneurs and consumers to a state which offers a welcoming tax climate, global accessibility and a highly skilled workforce. This past year, Florida was again ranked the 2nd in the nation as the best state for business. As we have seen, this economic fuel propels our growth and hones our strategies. Since launching our IPO in 2021, both total assets and deposits have grown by 47%, while loans increased 75%, expanding our balance sheet by $825,000,000 If Florida was a country, it would be the 15th largest economy in the world, which is forecasted to grow by 2.2% in 2025, slightly ahead of the national economy's growth forecast. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:15:15Consistent migration of new residents and business continues as the state population approaches 24,000,000. U. S. Century services the strong, diversified and dynamic market. We forecast growth in 2025 to be in the high single digit to low double digit range as we continue to optimize operational efficiency, maximize profitability and maintain pristine credit quality. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:15:39With that said, I would like to open the floor to Q and A. Operator00:15:44We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Woody Lay with KBW. Please go ahead. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:16:17Hey, good morning guys. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:16:18Good morning. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:16:19Good morning. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:16:20I wanted to start on load production and specifically Slide 9 where you sort of outlined the weighted average coupon on new production. The yields were down a little bit in the Q4. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:16:33I know rates were moving. But is that also a reflection of increased competition impacting pricing? Any thoughts there? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:16:45Woody, I think it's a combination of both. Clearly rates went down and our portion of the book that is variable went down with it. Competition here in Miami Dade County is sporty, let's say. And but again, we have our focus on where we want to be in pricing. And if it's not a fully banked relationship with deposits and the possibility for growth the way we want it, we'll pass on it. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:17:15Yes. The other thing, Woody, I would add to that would be, we did have a chunk of that new loan production in the 4th quarter in our correspondent banking group. And those are typically 180 day lines of credit. And those are typically a little thinner than our commercial real estate loans or C and I loans as well. So that brought down that quarter's origination yield. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:43Got it. That's helpful. And then it does feel like expectations for loan growth across the industry are picking up and South Florida is a very competitive market. How do you think about deposit growth in the year ahead? And does it pick up in competition? Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:18:02Does that impact the ability at all to lower deposit costs going forward? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:18:10Good question. I mean, we've talked for probably quarters and maybe years that we had a very good loan engine here at USCB. I think the market is very strong and it really comes down to the funding. And our challenge and how we're gearing the sales team is that we have to have strong bankers that can produce on both sides of the balance sheet, but the deposits will be the challenge. And I think if you ask any bank that would be the response. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:18:46But right now, we're growing the deposit book in line with our loans and we fully expect that to happen in the coming year. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:18:56Yes. And then lastly, the time deposit portfolio, 15% of deposits is not overly large, but any color you can provide on the maturity schedule there and repricing dynamics? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:19:13Yes. I don't have specifics on the repricing, but I think it's about 180 in the next year, my treasurer has given me the answer there. So we'll have opportunity there. We're pricing that lower. I think that's actually a good opportunity. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:19:33We are pricing, I would say, along with the Fed funds line or a Fed funds curve. So we would expect that book to come down over time, especially if we get 1 or 2 rate drops in 2025. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:51All right. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the nice quarter. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:19:55Thank you, Woody. Operator00:19:58The next question is from Michael Rose with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:20:03Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Lou, in the opening comments, you mentioned that the specialty verticals are, I think, 30% or so of deposits. Just as we think about South Florida and some of the challenges from the hurricanes and insurance and things like that and specifically related to the association deposits, any sort of concern there? Is that something you plan to maybe deemphasize as we move forward just given the challenges related to some of those associations that we've all read about? Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:20:38And then just broadly as it relates to deposit competition down there, is it all fairly rational just holistically? Thanks. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:20:48Sure. I'm bullish on the association banking. If you look at the data, I think it's over 30% of the population of the state lives in a condominium. So the thing is to choose them wisely. We really look at associations that are professionally managed. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:21:09When we do our analysis, we really focus on the number that our owners versus renters. We don't go after every single one. We look for ones that have the credit qualifiers that we want. And I think there's plenty of those. So it is in our best interest to be choosy as we've been from the very beginning. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:21:34I believe that the volume is still going to be significant and we have a clear focus on this area. So I believe that these verticals that I mentioned at the beginning are going to continue growing. Our JurisT Advantage, which is focused on the attorney business, which is a deposit rich market. We service it well. Those clients are responding. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:22:02So I believe that both these areas and the others, the MD Advantage, which is focused on the medical business is are all scalable and we have plans to develop them well. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:22:20Okay, helpful. Thanks for that. Rob, maybe just on Slide 14, when you look at the service fees, what is in that other category that drove that increased fairly meaningfully Q on Q? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:22:35Yes, that was the prepayment penalties. So like we said, we booked loans before prepayment penalties and we did get paid off on some and then we got paid for it. So that was in the other line item in service fees. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:22:50Got it. Thanks. I appreciate that. Sorry if I missed it. And then maybe just finally for me, appreciate the outlook on expenses, obviously some non recurring items this quarter. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:23:04Can you just discuss what the hiring plans are for this year and what's baked into your assumptions for expense growth and maybe what the market looks like for competition for those sorts of lending hires. Just wanted to see if you plan to be a little bit more opportunistic this year just given the relative strength of the South Florida markets? Thanks. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:23:27As we prepare the budget, we closely look at this and we feel that we are properly staffed for our plans for 2025. Being opportunistic is something that is what we do and we've been good at it. So when those individuals become available, we will move on them, but it's nothing that we're really budgeting for just in case it happens. We feel very comfortable that our staffing levels are proper and our production teams are prime for equity. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:24:01Action. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:24:01Okay, great. Appreciate you taking my questions. Operator00:24:05Thank you, Mike. The next question is from Freddie Strickland with The Hovde Group. Please go ahead. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:24:13Hey, good morning. Just wanted to start drilling down on fees a little bit here. Specifically, the swap fee income came in pretty good as you guys indicated it would last quarter. And Rob, I think you mentioned there's still a decent pipeline there. I mean, what should we expect in the next couple of quarters from that line item? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:24:35Yes. That one's going to move around a little bit. I mean, this year, I think the market and where interest rates were definitely favored swap activity. I think that could quiet down into 2025 and we'll be looking if that does go down, we'll be looking to offset that decrease with increases in our wire fees, our TM fees and SBA gain on sale. So that could trend down into 2025. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:25:03I think for the year, we probably booked over $3,000,000 I would not anticipate that level of activity in 2025. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:25:15That's fair. And I was going to ask what the opportunity was on SBA, just kind of what you're seeing in terms of pipelines looking forward and kind of how much we could see that grow over the course of the year potentially? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:25:29We're planning to more than double what we did in this past year. We have a strategy that we actually shared with our Board this past meeting. Our focus is going to be on a certain business segment that we're gearing up for. All our lenders are adept on the SBA 7 program. This is something that we've been training them on now for 3 years since we launched the program, where initially it was led by the department head. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:26:03Every single lender that we have has been participating. They have good marketing support, and they know their goals and their strategy. So I think we're in good shape for this year and for that SBA fee volume to increase. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:26:23Thank you for that. That's helpful. And just last for me, just thinking about the specialty lending segments between the op financing and some of the other areas, Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:26:36Where do Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:26:36you see the most green shoots for 2025? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:26:43I think the yacht financing is going to be steady as it's been the last few years. We're entering the all the yacht actually, it's the yacht season with all the boat shows coming up, the Miami International Boat Show and the Palm Beach, etcetera, all throughout the state. So that usually spikes volume. I think everything else is going to be steady and growing. Our on the global side, we have visited all our bank customers that are on the lending side. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:27:27Every single one of them was visited in the last two quarters. Very good feedback from those visitations. We expect that they're going to continue borrowing and growing the relationships. And it's not necessarily adding new clients there, but expanding on the relationships that we already have. So we feel very comfortable that it's going to be a very productive year with them. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:27:50And HOA, as I said, also is going to continue moving forward. I forget exactly what the percentage is, but it's almost I'm going to say it's near 50% of the HOAs in the State of Florida are over 30 years old. So they have to be going through the 30 40 year certifications. They're going to be looking for redos on roofs, on windows and there's going to be, I think, tremendous opportunities there. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:28:23Got it. Thank you so much. That's it for me. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:28:26Thanks, Betty. Operator00:28:28The next question is from Stephen Scouten with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:28:34Hi, good morning, everyone. Sorry, I hopped on a few minutes late, but wondering if you can talk about and apologies if I missed it, but loan growth obviously was still good this quarter, but maybe a little bit light of what it has been in Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:28:46the recent past. So just if Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:28:48that was just elevated pay downs or any other trends you're seeing and kind of how you think about trend line, what could be best case scenario growth for you guys in 2025 or maybe a lower end if things don't quite pan out like we all hope? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:29:02Well, this past quarter, there was quite a bit of payoff activity, probably more than you normally see on a quarterly basis, especially on our correspondent banking section, which as we mentioned earlier, these are 180 day terms. So but again, we believe that the borrowing is going to continue in that area. We don't really have any issues there. As far as and we have prepayments on the commercial side. I attend all pipeline meetings as does Rob and Bill on a weekly basis. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:29:40We are constantly in communication with our lenders. We know what the competition is doing. The pipeline going forward, I think, is as strong as any one that we've had in the past four quarters. So I think that the loan demand is going to be there. And as I said earlier, we believe that it's going to be high single digit, low double digit growth. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:30:03That's what we're planning for. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:30:07Okay, great. Very helpful. And then I know, Rob, you had kind of said, hey, it's the deposit growth that really helps to fuel the potential maximization of the loan opportunities and maximizing the team's potential. Are there any new deposit verticals potentially out on the horizon or any new initiatives from a deposit front that you guys would endeavor towards to drive even higher deposit growth? Or is it just continuation of working what you guys have built in maximizing Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:30:36those platforms? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:30:37Yes. I think it's optimizing what we have. I think we have a lot of talented people on the team that are sophisticated in their area of expertise. We started MD Advantage this past year. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:30:50I think there's a lot of opportunity there. Our private client group is seeing a lot of activity and continued growth. And I think it's just growing what we have and giving our team the right tools and the products. And I think they're doing a fantastic job in the market. So I think we'll continue to grow our deposit book in line with our loan book. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:31:14And part of the key, we'll making sure we get the operating accounts. And we can tweak maybe incentive plans a tad or 2 on the deposit side, But I don't think we need new verticals or new teams that add to the expense. I think it's working with what we have. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:31:33If I can, we Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:31:35chose and developed the association banking, the correspondent banking, the attorney business and the medical because we believe that they are incredibly scalable in this market. So it's not really about adding new lines, it's about maximizing what we have. And within the strategies, there are opportunities to bring in new teams. We have done that very successfully, and we will continue to look for those opportunities. But I believe that the ones that we've chosen, the ones that we've developed and market and trained our people to execute on are very scalable and with a lot of demand. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:32:20Nice. That's great commentary on the scalability. Appreciate that. And then just last thing for me would be loan loss reserve kind of levels. Obviously, you guys have a fantastic credit book, de minimis, non accruals, but the reserve continues to build as a percentage of loans. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:32:38As we move forward, if credit holds where it is, could we see those existing dollars of reserve kind of be more flat and just cover the incremental loan growth versus building as a percentage of loans? Or how do you guys think about that loan loss reserve percentage relative to your exemplary credit? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:32:58Thank you for the exemplary credit comment. Yes, we it will probably grow in relation to the growth in the portfolio as the net loans grow, the reserve will tick up a basis point or 2 as we grow As long as there's no hiccups in credit quality, we should see slow, steady, 1 basis point or 2 basis point growth or even holding steady each quarter as we go forward. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:33:31I think maybe just adding on to that, I think we were, I don't know, around $119,000,000 last quarter. We moved up to $122,000,000 I think part of that is the Bill mentioned the yacht and the vessel that we put a provision on. Other than that, I think the general pool is probably around 119, that's certainly adequate to benchmark that compared to some of the credit quality. So I don't think it will move materially, maybe in dollars, I think. Bill's mentioning was certainly with loan growth, but I think we're very adequately reserved. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:34:06Yes, for sure. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you guys for all Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:34:09the color. Congrats on a great quarter and a great year. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:34:12Thanks, Stephen. Operator00:34:14This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Lou de la Aguilera for any closing remarks. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:34:22Okay. Thank you very much for your attendance. On behalf of the U. S. Century team, I would like to thank you all for your attendance and look forward to meet again at our next earnings call. Operator00:34:34The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the USCB Financial Holdings 4th Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lou de la Aguilera, President and CEO. Operator00:00:41Please go ahead. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:00:43Good morning, and thank you for joining us for USDB Financial Holdings 4th quarter 2024 earnings call. With me today reviewing our Q4 highlights is CFO, Rob Anderson and Chief Credit Officer, Bill Turner, who will provide an overview of the bank's performance, the highlights of which commence on Slide 3. Our results in Q4 2024 highlight a record year for the bank as team USCB outperformed our internal budget and delivered impressive results for our shareholders. A year ago, we posted $0.14 per share in diluted EPS in Q4 2023 and more than doubled these earnings this quarter to $0.34 per share. Our continued focus on reducing deposit costs has contributed to net interest margin expansion, helping us maintain solid profitability. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:01:33Benefiting from Florida's strong, resilient and growing economy, USCB continues to post strong gains in assets, deposits, diversified quality loan production and profitability. Our performance underscores our disciplined execution of a business plan, focus on commercial banking initiatives designed to profitably expand existing client relationships and grow new ones. In reviewing our Q4 highlights, I will comment on a select few data points as CFO Anderson will further detail our growth, profitability, capital and liquidity positions. Driven by our various deposit focused business lines, average deposits increased $225,000,000 or 11.8 percent compared to the Q4 of 2023. These business verticals which target deposit rich private clients, attorneys, medical professionals, as well as correspondent and association banking have grown to over $625,000,000 representing 30 percent of total deposits as of the end of the past quarter. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:02:32Average loans increased $260,000,000 or 15.3% compared to the Q4 of 2023. Our loan pricing has moved in line with the market as loan coupon rates decreased 7 basis points compared to the prior quarter, while increasing 46 basis points compared to the Q4 of 2023. As we look at profitability, net income was $6,900,000 or $0.34 per diluted share, an increase of $4,200,000 or 153.7 percent compared to the Q4 of 2023. Similarly, net interest income before provision increased $5,000,000 or 34.7 percent for the past quarter in comparison to the Q4 of 2023. ROAA was 1.08% for the Q4 of 2024 compared to 0.48% for the Q4 of 2023, while ROA was 12.73% for the past quarter, again compared to 5.8% for Q4 2023. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:03:36Given the earnings power of the company, our outlook for 2025 and the strong capital levels, the Board approved on January 21, 2025 to double the quarterly cash dividend to $0.10 per share of the company's Class A common stock. The dividend will be paid on March 5, 2025. The cash dividend program is an important driver to shareholder value and the Board of Directors is committed to the return of capital to our investors while maintaining a strong balance sheet. The following page is self explanatory, directionally showing historical trends since recapitalization. The disciplined execution of our business plan focused on developing the best people, products and processes has consistently delivered efficient, profitable performance guided by conservative risk management practices. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:04:26So now let's turn our attention to our specific financial results and key performance indicators, which will be reviewed by our CFO, Rob Anderson. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:04:36Okay. Thank you, Lou, and good morning, everyone. Looking at Pages 56, I'd characterize Q4 as another fantastic quarter for USDB. Net income was $0.34 per diluted share and absent the non recurring expenses would have been $0.38 per share and another record quarter for USDB. However, as reported return on average assets was 1.08%, return on average equity was 12.73%, the NIM was 3.16% and up 13 basis points from the prior quarter. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:05:07The efficiency ratio was 55.92% and adjusted for the non recurring expenses would have been 51.41 percent. Tangible book value per share retreated $0.09 to $10.81 driven by a higher AOCI interest rate mark and higher share count. And last, credit metrics remain benign. So with that overview, let's discuss deposits on the next page. Deposits continue to increase both on a linked quarter and year over year basis. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:05:37We have used excess liquidity to fund loan volume and walk away from rate sensitive deposits and single service product clients. Deposits decreased 18 basis points this quarter and the reduction in our cost of funds has been a fundamental driver in our net interest margin improvement. So with that, let's look at the loan book. Average loans increased $80,300,000 or 17% annualized compared to the prior quarter and $260,000,000 or 15.3% compared to the Q4 of 2023. Additionally, as we book new loans at yields above the portfolio average, our overall loan yields will remain stable or increased in the next couple of quarters as we continue to book loans with coupons above 7%. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:06:22As a reminder, we book all loans with floors and prepayment penalties, which could help us in a down rate scenario. As for guidance, we expect loan growth to be in high single digits to low double digits going forward, particularly Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:06:36since Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:06:36we have experienced high interest rate volatility in the last couple of weeks. Turning to Page 9, you can see for the past 5 quarters, we have originated $754,000,000 in new loans and for the Q4 we have originated $161,000,000 achieving a record quarter in terms of loan production with a loan coupon of 7.14 percent and in the last 5 quarters our weighted average coupon was 7.79 percent which helped to increase our yield on earning assets. And while the loan coupon ticked down this quarter, it is still 89 basis points above the portfolio average. Also worth noting is that we have been able to diversify our loan book over time. As of quarter end, non real estate loans are 27% of the total loan book. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:07:24Let's look at the margin. One of the most impressive accolades this year is the success story of the NIM. In 2024, our NIM went from 2.62 percent to 3.1 6%, an improvement of 54 basis points in a matter of 3 quarters. Equally impressive has been the improvement on net interest income. Compared to the Q4 of 2023, net interest income increased $5,000,000 or 34 point 7%. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:07:52As we enter 2025, this increase will generate significant earnings power going forward. The drivers include a lower deposit costs, larger balance sheet, higher loan yields and an improvement in our earning asset mix. Going forward, we believe the NIM will hover around current levels near term, but we can expect further expansion in 2025 given that more normalized yield curve. Moving on to Page 11. According to our ALM model, the bank's balance sheet is neutral for year 1 as we have made strategic changes in the last couple of quarters to prepare for a lower rate environment. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:08:27Most notably, we have favored money market retention rates over long term CD rates. We have focused on 3 to 6 month CD terms. Moreover, we will adjust the term of our liabilities depending on the current and expected interest rate scenario. For now, we are aiming for a neutral balance sheet. One of the benefits of having a neutral balance sheet is that the bank's financial performance can be more predictable in an uncertain rate environment. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:08:53As mentioned on earlier calls, we have also pruned the balance sheet from rate sensitive deposits and single service product clients. During the last couple of quarters, we have adjusted down our deposit rates without losing meaningful relationships. This has translated into a more resilient balance sheet. Additionally, if the Fed funds rate does drop this year that will help our deposit costs and with the rise in the 5, 7 10 year rates will help new origination loans at higher rates. In short, this will give us a more normalized yield curve, which is great for the banking industry in general, but will really benefit us as we tend to book loans at 5 years fixed rate with a spread over the U. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:09:39S. Treasury rates. With these changes, we believe our NIM performance can hold at the current levels near term and expand into 2025, especially if the yield curve normalizes. With that, let me turn it over to Bill to discuss asset quality. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:09:55Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Page 12. As you can see from the first graph, the allowance for credit losses increased to $24,000,000 in the 4th quarter. This was due to a $1,000,000 provision and the ratio increased 3 basis points to an adequate 1.22 percent of the portfolio. $650,000 of the provision is related to a consumer loan relationship consisting of a yacht and a tender vessel, which were repossessed during the Q4. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:10:23The remaining provision was driven by the $38,000,000 quarterly net loan growth. Net losses were 0 for the quarter the year. The remaining graphs on Page 12 show the non performing loans as of quarter end, which remained unchanged from the 3rd quarter at $2,700,000 and represents 0.14 percent of the portfolio. Classified loans increased slightly to 0.37% and represent less than 3% of capital. The bank continues to have no other real estate. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:10:54On Page 13, the first graph shows the loan portfolio mix at twelvethirty one. The portfolio increased $38,000,000 on a net basis in the 4th quarter to 1,970,000,000 dollars The composition continues to be well diversified. Commercial Real Estate represents 58 percent of the portfolio or $1,100,000,000 segmented between retail, multifamily, owner occupied and office properties. The second graph is a breakout of the commercial real estate portfolios for the non owner occupied and owner occupied loans, which also demonstrate their diversification. The table to the right of the graph show the weighted average loan to values of the commercial real estate portfolio at less than 60% and the debt service coverage ratios are adequate for each portfolio segment. William TurnerChief Credit Officer at USCB Financial Holdings00:11:43The loan quality and payment performances are good for all segments and the past due ratio remains at less than 0.5% and below peer banks. Overall, the quality of the portfolio remains good with past due ratios below peer banks. Rob? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:11:59Thank you, Bill. Outside of the NIM, fee businesses were the other bright spot in the quarter and for the year. The standout this quarter is the team's repeated performance in interest rate swaps. Since Q1 of this year, we have seen an uptick in clients managing their debt obligations with interest rate swaps. Additionally, we had $169,000 of prepayment penalties booked in other service fees line item. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:12:26With other line items straightforward, let's look at expenses. Our total expense base was $12,900,000 and contained over $1,000,000 in non recurring expenses. Salaries and benefits increased $730,000 and contained $620,000 of expenses related to an accelerated restricted stock award. These shares have a 3 year ratable vesting period, but for a couple executives, the first vesting period was recognized or vested in the last 2 months of the year. In 2025, we will have a more normalized vesting period on the stock grant. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:13:01Additionally, legal expenses increased $173,000 for various items and other operating expenses increased $174,000 related to forced placed insurance. We expect reimbursement for both items in the coming quarters. As noted on the slide, these non recurring expenses had a negative $0.04 per share impact on our fully diluted earnings per share for the quarter. On an adjusted basis, the efficiency ratio would have been 51.41 percent, which is more in line with our guidance and run rate improvement this year. Looking forward, we expect Q1 expense base to be around $12,000,000 and move up from there throughout 2025. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:13:42So with that, let's turn to capital. Three things to note on capital. First, we doubled the dividend to $0.10 per share. This increase is a direct result of the current performance and expected future performance of the bank. Next, AOCI increased to a negative $44,500,000 with an increase in interest rates across the 5, 7 10 year tenure points. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:14:06And as you know, this negatively impacts our tangible book value per share. And last, the end of period share count increased with a restricted share grant in Q4 and individuals exercising options in the quarter. So with that, let me turn it back to Lou for some closing comments. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:14:23Thanks, Rob. Our plans for 2025 are rooted on the ongoing strength of Florida's economy, which continues to attract industry entrepreneurs and consumers to a state which offers a welcoming tax climate, global accessibility and a highly skilled workforce. This past year, Florida was again ranked the 2nd in the nation as the best state for business. As we have seen, this economic fuel propels our growth and hones our strategies. Since launching our IPO in 2021, both total assets and deposits have grown by 47%, while loans increased 75%, expanding our balance sheet by $825,000,000 If Florida was a country, it would be the 15th largest economy in the world, which is forecasted to grow by 2.2% in 2025, slightly ahead of the national economy's growth forecast. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:15:15Consistent migration of new residents and business continues as the state population approaches 24,000,000. U. S. Century services the strong, diversified and dynamic market. We forecast growth in 2025 to be in the high single digit to low double digit range as we continue to optimize operational efficiency, maximize profitability and maintain pristine credit quality. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:15:39With that said, I would like to open the floor to Q and A. Operator00:15:44We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Woody Lay with KBW. Please go ahead. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:16:17Hey, good morning guys. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:16:18Good morning. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:16:19Good morning. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:16:20I wanted to start on load production and specifically Slide 9 where you sort of outlined the weighted average coupon on new production. The yields were down a little bit in the Q4. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:16:33I know rates were moving. But is that also a reflection of increased competition impacting pricing? Any thoughts there? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:16:45Woody, I think it's a combination of both. Clearly rates went down and our portion of the book that is variable went down with it. Competition here in Miami Dade County is sporty, let's say. And but again, we have our focus on where we want to be in pricing. And if it's not a fully banked relationship with deposits and the possibility for growth the way we want it, we'll pass on it. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:17:15Yes. The other thing, Woody, I would add to that would be, we did have a chunk of that new loan production in the 4th quarter in our correspondent banking group. And those are typically 180 day lines of credit. And those are typically a little thinner than our commercial real estate loans or C and I loans as well. So that brought down that quarter's origination yield. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:17:43Got it. That's helpful. And then it does feel like expectations for loan growth across the industry are picking up and South Florida is a very competitive market. How do you think about deposit growth in the year ahead? And does it pick up in competition? Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:18:02Does that impact the ability at all to lower deposit costs going forward? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:18:10Good question. I mean, we've talked for probably quarters and maybe years that we had a very good loan engine here at USCB. I think the market is very strong and it really comes down to the funding. And our challenge and how we're gearing the sales team is that we have to have strong bankers that can produce on both sides of the balance sheet, but the deposits will be the challenge. And I think if you ask any bank that would be the response. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:18:46But right now, we're growing the deposit book in line with our loans and we fully expect that to happen in the coming year. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:18:56Yes. And then lastly, the time deposit portfolio, 15% of deposits is not overly large, but any color you can provide on the maturity schedule there and repricing dynamics? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:19:13Yes. I don't have specifics on the repricing, but I think it's about 180 in the next year, my treasurer has given me the answer there. So we'll have opportunity there. We're pricing that lower. I think that's actually a good opportunity. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:19:33We are pricing, I would say, along with the Fed funds line or a Fed funds curve. So we would expect that book to come down over time, especially if we get 1 or 2 rate drops in 2025. Woody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)00:19:51All right. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the nice quarter. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:19:55Thank you, Woody. Operator00:19:58The next question is from Michael Rose with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:20:03Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Lou, in the opening comments, you mentioned that the specialty verticals are, I think, 30% or so of deposits. Just as we think about South Florida and some of the challenges from the hurricanes and insurance and things like that and specifically related to the association deposits, any sort of concern there? Is that something you plan to maybe deemphasize as we move forward just given the challenges related to some of those associations that we've all read about? Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:20:38And then just broadly as it relates to deposit competition down there, is it all fairly rational just holistically? Thanks. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:20:48Sure. I'm bullish on the association banking. If you look at the data, I think it's over 30% of the population of the state lives in a condominium. So the thing is to choose them wisely. We really look at associations that are professionally managed. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:21:09When we do our analysis, we really focus on the number that our owners versus renters. We don't go after every single one. We look for ones that have the credit qualifiers that we want. And I think there's plenty of those. So it is in our best interest to be choosy as we've been from the very beginning. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:21:34I believe that the volume is still going to be significant and we have a clear focus on this area. So I believe that these verticals that I mentioned at the beginning are going to continue growing. Our JurisT Advantage, which is focused on the attorney business, which is a deposit rich market. We service it well. Those clients are responding. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:22:02So I believe that both these areas and the others, the MD Advantage, which is focused on the medical business is are all scalable and we have plans to develop them well. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:22:20Okay, helpful. Thanks for that. Rob, maybe just on Slide 14, when you look at the service fees, what is in that other category that drove that increased fairly meaningfully Q on Q? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:22:35Yes, that was the prepayment penalties. So like we said, we booked loans before prepayment penalties and we did get paid off on some and then we got paid for it. So that was in the other line item in service fees. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:22:50Got it. Thanks. I appreciate that. Sorry if I missed it. And then maybe just finally for me, appreciate the outlook on expenses, obviously some non recurring items this quarter. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:23:04Can you just discuss what the hiring plans are for this year and what's baked into your assumptions for expense growth and maybe what the market looks like for competition for those sorts of lending hires. Just wanted to see if you plan to be a little bit more opportunistic this year just given the relative strength of the South Florida markets? Thanks. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:23:27As we prepare the budget, we closely look at this and we feel that we are properly staffed for our plans for 2025. Being opportunistic is something that is what we do and we've been good at it. So when those individuals become available, we will move on them, but it's nothing that we're really budgeting for just in case it happens. We feel very comfortable that our staffing levels are proper and our production teams are prime for equity. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:24:01Action. Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James Financial00:24:01Okay, great. Appreciate you taking my questions. Operator00:24:05Thank you, Mike. The next question is from Freddie Strickland with The Hovde Group. Please go ahead. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:24:13Hey, good morning. Just wanted to start drilling down on fees a little bit here. Specifically, the swap fee income came in pretty good as you guys indicated it would last quarter. And Rob, I think you mentioned there's still a decent pipeline there. I mean, what should we expect in the next couple of quarters from that line item? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:24:35Yes. That one's going to move around a little bit. I mean, this year, I think the market and where interest rates were definitely favored swap activity. I think that could quiet down into 2025 and we'll be looking if that does go down, we'll be looking to offset that decrease with increases in our wire fees, our TM fees and SBA gain on sale. So that could trend down into 2025. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:25:03I think for the year, we probably booked over $3,000,000 I would not anticipate that level of activity in 2025. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:25:15That's fair. And I was going to ask what the opportunity was on SBA, just kind of what you're seeing in terms of pipelines looking forward and kind of how much we could see that grow over the course of the year potentially? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:25:29We're planning to more than double what we did in this past year. We have a strategy that we actually shared with our Board this past meeting. Our focus is going to be on a certain business segment that we're gearing up for. All our lenders are adept on the SBA 7 program. This is something that we've been training them on now for 3 years since we launched the program, where initially it was led by the department head. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:26:03Every single lender that we have has been participating. They have good marketing support, and they know their goals and their strategy. So I think we're in good shape for this year and for that SBA fee volume to increase. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:26:23Thank you for that. That's helpful. And just last for me, just thinking about the specialty lending segments between the op financing and some of the other areas, Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:26:36Where do Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:26:36you see the most green shoots for 2025? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:26:43I think the yacht financing is going to be steady as it's been the last few years. We're entering the all the yacht actually, it's the yacht season with all the boat shows coming up, the Miami International Boat Show and the Palm Beach, etcetera, all throughout the state. So that usually spikes volume. I think everything else is going to be steady and growing. Our on the global side, we have visited all our bank customers that are on the lending side. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:27:27Every single one of them was visited in the last two quarters. Very good feedback from those visitations. We expect that they're going to continue borrowing and growing the relationships. And it's not necessarily adding new clients there, but expanding on the relationships that we already have. So we feel very comfortable that it's going to be a very productive year with them. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:27:50And HOA, as I said, also is going to continue moving forward. I forget exactly what the percentage is, but it's almost I'm going to say it's near 50% of the HOAs in the State of Florida are over 30 years old. So they have to be going through the 30 40 year certifications. They're going to be looking for redos on roofs, on windows and there's going to be, I think, tremendous opportunities there. Feddie StricklandDirector at Hovde Group00:28:23Got it. Thank you so much. That's it for me. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:28:26Thanks, Betty. Operator00:28:28The next question is from Stephen Scouten with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:28:34Hi, good morning, everyone. Sorry, I hopped on a few minutes late, but wondering if you can talk about and apologies if I missed it, but loan growth obviously was still good this quarter, but maybe a little bit light of what it has been in Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:28:46the recent past. So just if Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:28:48that was just elevated pay downs or any other trends you're seeing and kind of how you think about trend line, what could be best case scenario growth for you guys in 2025 or maybe a lower end if things don't quite pan out like we all hope? Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:29:02Well, this past quarter, there was quite a bit of payoff activity, probably more than you normally see on a quarterly basis, especially on our correspondent banking section, which as we mentioned earlier, these are 180 day terms. So but again, we believe that the borrowing is going to continue in that area. We don't really have any issues there. As far as and we have prepayments on the commercial side. I attend all pipeline meetings as does Rob and Bill on a weekly basis. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:29:40We are constantly in communication with our lenders. We know what the competition is doing. The pipeline going forward, I think, is as strong as any one that we've had in the past four quarters. So I think that the loan demand is going to be there. And as I said earlier, we believe that it's going to be high single digit, low double digit growth. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:30:03That's what we're planning for. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:30:07Okay, great. Very helpful. And then I know, Rob, you had kind of said, hey, it's the deposit growth that really helps to fuel the potential maximization of the loan opportunities and maximizing the team's potential. Are there any new deposit verticals potentially out on the horizon or any new initiatives from a deposit front that you guys would endeavor towards to drive even higher deposit growth? Or is it just continuation of working what you guys have built in maximizing Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:30:36those platforms? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:30:37Yes. I think it's optimizing what we have. I think we have a lot of talented people on the team that are sophisticated in their area of expertise. We started MD Advantage this past year. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:30:50I think there's a lot of opportunity there. Our private client group is seeing a lot of activity and continued growth. And I think it's just growing what we have and giving our team the right tools and the products. And I think they're doing a fantastic job in the market. So I think we'll continue to grow our deposit book in line with our loan book. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:31:14And part of the key, we'll making sure we get the operating accounts. And we can tweak maybe incentive plans a tad or 2 on the deposit side, But I don't think we need new verticals or new teams that add to the expense. I think it's working with what we have. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:31:33If I can, we Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:31:35chose and developed the association banking, the correspondent banking, the attorney business and the medical because we believe that they are incredibly scalable in this market. So it's not really about adding new lines, it's about maximizing what we have. And within the strategies, there are opportunities to bring in new teams. We have done that very successfully, and we will continue to look for those opportunities. But I believe that the ones that we've chosen, the ones that we've developed and market and trained our people to execute on are very scalable and with a lot of demand. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:32:20Nice. That's great commentary on the scalability. Appreciate that. And then just last thing for me would be loan loss reserve kind of levels. Obviously, you guys have a fantastic credit book, de minimis, non accruals, but the reserve continues to build as a percentage of loans. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:32:38As we move forward, if credit holds where it is, could we see those existing dollars of reserve kind of be more flat and just cover the incremental loan growth versus building as a percentage of loans? Or how do you guys think about that loan loss reserve percentage relative to your exemplary credit? Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:32:58Thank you for the exemplary credit comment. Yes, we it will probably grow in relation to the growth in the portfolio as the net loans grow, the reserve will tick up a basis point or 2 as we grow As long as there's no hiccups in credit quality, we should see slow, steady, 1 basis point or 2 basis point growth or even holding steady each quarter as we go forward. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:33:31I think maybe just adding on to that, I think we were, I don't know, around $119,000,000 last quarter. We moved up to $122,000,000 I think part of that is the Bill mentioned the yacht and the vessel that we put a provision on. Other than that, I think the general pool is probably around 119, that's certainly adequate to benchmark that compared to some of the credit quality. So I don't think it will move materially, maybe in dollars, I think. Bill's mentioning was certainly with loan growth, but I think we're very adequately reserved. Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:34:06Yes, for sure. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you guys for all Stephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:34:09the color. Congrats on a great quarter and a great year. Rob AndersonCFO at USCB Financial Holdings00:34:12Thanks, Stephen. Operator00:34:14This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Lou de la Aguilera for any closing remarks. Luis AguileraChairman , President & CEO at USCB Financial Holdings00:34:22Okay. Thank you very much for your attendance. On behalf of the U. S. Century team, I would like to thank you all for your attendance and look forward to meet again at our next earnings call. Operator00:34:34The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesLuis AguileraChairman , President & CEORob AndersonCFOWilliam TurnerChief Credit OfficerAnalystsWoody LayVice President at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW)Michael RoseManaging Director - Equity Research at Raymond James FinancialFeddie StricklandDirector at Hovde GroupStephen ScoutenManaging Director & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler CompaniesPowered by