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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Axalta Coating Systems EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.59Consensus EPS $0.54Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPS$0.48Axalta Coating Systems Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.29 billionExpected Revenue$1.29 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.74 millionYoY Revenue Growth-2.50%Axalta Coating Systems Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/7/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call Time8:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Axalta Coating Systems Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 7, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Record Q1 adjusted EBITDA of $270M (+4% YoY) and record adjusted diluted EPS of $0.59 (+16% YoY), marking the tenth consecutive quarter of margin expansion. Organic net sales grew 2% in light vehicle and 2% in commercial vehicle, with mobility margins expanding 230 bps to 16.5%, the highest since Q1 2021, while the Refinish segment outperformed industry declines by losing only 1%. Full-year 2025 net sales guidance was slightly reduced to $5.30–$5.375B (≈+1% YoY), but adjusted EBITDA and EPS targets remain unchanged, with full-year margin expected near 22% and free cash flow of $475–$500M. New tariffs could cost Axalta approximately $50M annually (≈$25M impact in 2025), but the company expects to offset this through insourcing, local sourcing, reformulation, inventory management, and pricing actions. Axalta received two Edison Awards and a Big Innovation Award for its Iris Scan, MyColor, and Voltatex products, highlighting ongoing R&D success in cutting-edge coating solutions. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallAxalta Coating Systems Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Axalta Coating Systems Q1-25 Earnings Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the presentation by management. Today's call is being recorded, and a replay will be available through May 14th. Those listening after today's call should please note that information provided in the recording will not be updated and therefore may no longer be current. I will now turn the call over to Colleen Lubic, Vice President of Investor Relations. Colleen LubicVP of Investor Relations at Axalta Coating Systems00:00:36Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today to discuss our fiscal 2025 first quarter results. This is Colleen Lubic, Vice President of Investor Relations. Joining me today are Chris Villavarayan, CEO and President, and Carl Anderson, Chief Financial Officer. We posted our first quarter financial results and our earnings release this morning. As a reminder, you can find additional materials, including today's presentation and associated schedules, on the investor relations section of our website at axalta.com, which we will be referring to during this call. Our prepared remarks, the slide presentation, and our discussion today may contain forward-looking statements reflecting the company's current view of future events and their potential effect on Axalta's operating and financial performance. These statements involve uncertainties and risks, and actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements. Colleen LubicVP of Investor Relations at Axalta Coating Systems00:01:29Please note that the company is under no obligation to provide updates to these forward-looking statements. Our remarks and the slide presentation also contain various non-GAAP financial measures. We have included reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Refer to our filings with the SEC for more information. We kindly ask that you limit yourself to one question at a time to give others the opportunity to have their questions addressed. I would like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:02:02Thank you, Colleen. We're pleased to report another strong quarter of financial results for our first quarter record for adjusted EBITDA and adjusted diluted EPS. I want to thank Axalta's employees for rallying together to deliver our A plan priorities and maintaining our strong execution and resilient performance. Net sales remained flat to the first quarter of last year on a constant currency basis, with contributions from CoverFlex and a positive price mix mitigating volume declines. Adjusted EBITDA was $270 million, representing a 4% increase year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margin grew by 140 basis points year over year, marking the 10th consecutive quarter of adjusted EBITDA margin growth. Driving A plan initiatives, improving our operations, and reinvesting in the business remain a top priority for us. Despite wage inflation, operating expenses decreased by 4% from last year due to savings from our transformation initiative introduced in 2024. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:03:12Capital expenditures have nearly doubled compared to Q1 of 2024, driven by incremental investments designed to enhance productivity in our operations. Our balance sheet remains robust, with total net leverage remaining steady for the year-end at 2.5x. Adjusted diluted EPS grew by 16% year over year to $0.59. This marks the seventh consecutive quarter of adjusted diluted EPS growth. Innovation is fundamental to enhancing the customer experience. In the first quarter, we are proud to be the recipients of two Edison Awards and a Big Innovation Award. This is the seventh consecutive year that Axalta has earned an Edison Award, which honors industry-leading innovations in new products and services. This year, Axalta's Irus Scan and Axalta's MyColor were recognized. Irus Scan is the first handheld color measurement device for the collision repair industry. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:04:18It has the ability to capture color sparkle, hue-shifting pigments, and gloss to provide an accurate color match for vehicle repairs. Axalta's MyColor offers an innovative color creation delivery process. This technology streamlines automotive OEM approvals, enabling custom colors to be available in as little as four weeks instead of more than a year. We were presented with a Big Innovation Award by the Business Intelligence Group for our Voltatex product. Voltatex is a wire enamel that improves the reliability and efficiency of electric vehicles and other high-performance electrical systems. These awards underscore our strengths of our product pipeline and our ability to convert investments in R and D and technology into solutions that appeal for our customers and differentiate Axalta's offerings. Let's move to slide four. Three of our four end-markets showed macro declines in the quarter. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:05:21Axalta, however, was able to generate positive organic net sales in both mobility and markets and achieve an organic net sales performance in refinish above industry trends compared to the same period last year. In refinish, organic net sales decreased by 1%, while the industry was down mid-single digits based on industry metrics that we tracked. The external demand pressures experienced in 2024 continued to affect collision claims and body shop repair activity in the first quarter. These factors are driven by insurance premium inflation, increasing repair costs, and waning consumer confidence. Irrespective of industry dynamics, we were able to add approximately 900 net new body shops, grow in adjacencies, and expand further in the economy segment. Organic net sales in light vehicle increased by 2%. Volume for light vehicle aligned with global auto production, which rose by 1%. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:06:26We also achieved double-digit volume growth year over year in both China and Latin America, surpassing auto production growth in both those geographies. Commercial vehicle organic net sales grew by 2%, while Class 8 heavy-duty production in North America dropped by 17%. We mitigated industry pressure from the heavy-duty truck sector by executing on our commercial transportation solution priorities across various applications, including recreational and public safety vehicles. Additionally, we expanded our presence outside the Americas. As a result, together with strong performance in light vehicle and price cost stability, the mobility segment's margin expanded by 230 basis points to 16.5%, the highest margin since first quarter of 2021. Industrial organic net sales decreased by 4% year over year, in line with broader trends. Across our end businesses, we continue to see mixed signals. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:07:35Industrial production in the United States increased slightly year over year in the first quarter, but contracted in March, while most European economies experienced declines. North American housing declined for the fourth consecutive quarter, causing a slow start to the season for our North American building products business. Despite these challenges, the team's focus on portfolio mix and productivity improvements resulted in an adjusted EBITDA margin increase for the eighth consecutive quarter. Let's move to slide five. With the increased trade tensions that emerged during the quarter, we wanted to provide some color on Axalta's global landscape. As shown in the presentation, our business is geographically diverse, with 38% of our net sales in North America and 16% in Asia-Pacific. Most importantly, approximately 90% of our products are manufactured and sold within the same region, significantly reducing our exposure to international tariffs. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:08:42Additionally, only about 10% of our total purchases are currently impacted by the new tariffs. The team has already done a fantastic job of maximizing USMCA-compliant products in North America, minimizing tariffs across the regions. Based on our current business model, we estimate tariffs imposed in 2025 could now cost approximately $50 million annually, with about $25 million expected to impact in 2025. Carl will take you through how this impacts the guide later in the discussion. Through various means, including insourcing, sourcing raw materials locally, reformulating products, managing strategic inventory, and pricing, we believe we have avenues for structural improvements if tariffs were to become permanent. I will now turn the call over to Carl to go through our financial results and updated 2025 guidance. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:09:45Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Let's turn to slide six. First quarter net sales decreased by approximately 3% year over year to $1.26 billion, primarily driven by a 3% unfavorable foreign currency impact and lower volumes, partially offset by positive price mix and contributions from CoverFlex. Gross margins were 34% in the quarter, an increase of 110 basis points over last year. Income from operations increased by $55 million, as we had significantly lower restructuring expense compared to a year ago when we announced and started to execute on our 2024 transformation initiative. Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was $270 million, 4% above last year, marking another record quarter for adjusted EBITDA performance. Variable costs declined by low single digits, slightly better than anticipated. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:10:43For the full year 2025, we now believe that raw material costs will be approximately flat year on year, excluding the direct impact of tariffs. Our productivity pipeline remains strong, and we expect it to drive sustained improvements to our operating model going forward. SG&A declined 2% when compared to the first quarter of last year, and our fixed operating expenses were down approximately 4%, inclusive of wage inflation. We continue to benefit from savings related to the 2024 transformation initiative. Additionally, incremental cost management initiatives implemented at the start of the year also helped to mitigate the challenges from a weaker macro. Lastly, adjusted diluted earnings per share increased 16% to $0.59, a first quarter record, driven by higher overall earnings and lower interest expense compared to the first quarter of last year. Moving to slide seven. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:11:45Net sales for performance coatings declined 3% year over year to $822 million, driven primarily by both lower volumes and unfavorable foreign currency impacts. These headwinds were partially offset by contributions from CoverFlex. Refinish net sales decreased 2% to $511 million. The incremental contributions from CoverFlex partially offset foreign currency headwinds and volume declines in Europe and North America. Price mix was roughly flat in the quarter, as price increases were offset by negative mix impacts. Industrial net sales declined 6% year over year to $311 million due to volume declines, predominantly driven by weakness in North America and Europe, partially offset by growth in China. Positive price mix partially mitigated the impact of unfavorable foreign currency headwinds. Overall, first quarter performance coatings adjusted EBITDA increased 1% year over year to $197 million. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:12:50Adjusted EBITDA margin increased by 100 basis points, 24.1%, primarily driven by lower operating expenses and lower variable costs. Let's move to mobility coatings results on slide eight. Mobility coatings first quarter 2025 net sales were $440 million, a decrease of 1% from the prior year, inclusive of a 3% headwind from foreign currency. Light vehicle net sales were down 1% in the first quarter. On a constant currency basis, net sales grew 2%, driven by volume growth in China and Latin America, which more than offset anticipated declines in North America and Europe. Price mix was a low single-digit tailwind in the quarter, driven by selective pricing and favorable mix. Commercial vehicle net sales declined 3%, primarily due to foreign currency headwinds. On a constant currency basis, net sales grew 2%, driven primarily by positive price mix. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:13:55Mobility coatings adjusted EBITDA in the quarter improved by 15% to $73 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by 230 basis points versus last year, coming in at 16.5%. Margin expansion in both businesses was primarily driven by positive price mix and a reduction in operating expenses. Turning to slide nine. Based on the current economic environment, we are updating our market expectations for the year. Uncertainty persists, and recent industry data is coming in softer than we were forecasting at the beginning of the year. In our global refinish business, we now expect the industry to be down low single to mid-single digits on a year-over-year basis, compared to flat to down low single digits previously. Insurance claims data continues to post declines in both North America and Europe. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:14:51Repair costs have increased by over 10% since 2022, and the average age of the car park is approaching 13 years in North America. These industry drivers, along with higher distribution inventory levels in North America, are expected to offset an increase in miles driven. Our strategy remains unchanged as we continue to add new body shops, expand further into the economy segment, accelerate accessory growth, and look to add bolt-on M&A as evidenced by our execution during the quarter. Overall, we expect our refinish results to outpace industry trends and deliver strong adjusted EBITDA again this year. For industrial, we previously anticipated modest low single-digit growth year on year, with positive trends in Europe and North America expected in the second half. In February 2025, the ISM PMI signaled a second consecutive month of economic expansion. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:15:53However, the rise in trade tensions and growing consumer pessimism led to a pullback in March manufacturing's PMI, erasing the gains from January and February. Additionally, GDP growth projections for the U.S., Europe, and China are trending lower. Given the current climate, we now expect the industry to remain flat or to decline low single digits, with a clear outlook for economic expansion dependent on future trade policy developments. Overall, we will continue to execute on our strategy of expanding margin in our industrial business through cost actions and portfolio optimization. Global auto production for 2025 is now forecasted at just under 88 million units, a 2% decline from last year. Despite recent downward revisions due to tariffs and affordability concerns, we expect to outpace the industry, particularly in China and Brazil, due to the successful ramp-up of new business wins. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:16:55For the USMCA Class 8 market, the 2025 production forecast has been revised down to 255,000 units, a decline of over 20% compared to 332,000 units in 2024. Initially, industry projections were roughly flat year over year, but these were adjusted in April in response to softer consumer trends impacting the freight sector. Our business, however, continues to perform well as we gain new business in commercial transportation solutions and in Brazil, which are all aligned with our A plan growth strategy. Let's turn to slide 10 for the second quarter and full year 2025 guidance. In the second quarter, we anticipate macro factors to affect all four end markets, primarily driven by slowing global demand and lower body shop activity in North America. Net sales for the company are projected to decrease low single digits versus the prior year, with partial offsets from pricing actions and CoverFlex. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:17:59Second quarter adjusted EBITDA is projected to be between $280 million and $290 million, and adjusted diluted earnings per share is estimated to be between $0.60 and $0.63. While we expect to execute mitigation strategies and increase prices related to tariffs, we don't expect to see a full run rate of the effects in the second quarter. For the full year, we remain cautious regarding the global demand environment and are slightly revising down our net sales guide based on current industry dynamics. We now expect net sales to be in a range of $5.3 billion-$5.375 billion, an approximate 1% increase at the midpoint year on year. With the weakening U.S. dollar, we now expect the foreign exchange translation impact on revenue to be about a $25 million headwind year on year compared to a $100 million headwind in our previous outlook. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:18:55Our adjusted EBITDA and adjusted diluted earnings per share outlook remains unchanged as we are driving down operating costs to offset the impact from lower revenue. Adjusted EBITDA margins for the full year are now expected to be close to 22%, expanding approximately 60 basis points over last year. In addition, free cash flow is now expected to be in a range of $475 million-$500 million, down slightly from our previous outlook, driven primarily from increased cash outlays from higher restructuring costs. I will now hand the call back to Chris. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:19:29Thanks, Carl. I want to emphasize that our top priority remains delivering on our A plan targets. From vast improvements in our safety metrics to supply chain optimization and meaningful business wins, we're transforming the company. Based on our 2025 full year guidance, we're on track to achieve four of our five financial objectives a full year ahead of schedule, and the teams are executing well across all pillars. While the macro environment remains uncertain, the strategic actions we have taken enable us to be more stable and resilient through the cycles. We have consistently demonstrated our confidence for strong execution, meaningful cost actions, and margin expansion. Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the line for Q and A. Operator00:20:25At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star and one on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. In the interest of time, we do ask that you limit yourself to one question. We'll take our first question from Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:20:44Great. Thank you so much. Chris, Carl, there are three major things that have happened over the last 12 months-18 months, and it's across cost execution, share gains, and ultimately price discipline. A lot of things you spoke about at your analyst day last year. Clearly, the world has changed, as you've been highlighting in your prepared remarks, but could you just give a little bit more detail on how you're thinking about these three major facets as it relates to the current economic environment? Thank you so much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:21:13Yeah. Good morning, Chris. Thanks for the question. I think all of those three elements that we defined in the A plan, if you put the five pillars of the A plan, essentially those are two of the main pillars of the A plan, whether it's the operational excellence or growth, in which we focused on not only share gains but also pricing. I think, as you can see, we've made significant progress through that. What's changed primarily, if you think about where we started a year ago and where we forecasted all four markets, even from an industry forecast, every one of those markets has significantly changed. If you look at mobility or light vehicle, we're down about 2 million builds from where we forecasted. If you look at commercial vehicle, we're at 250,000 builds 255,000 builds. That's lower than replacement demand at 275,000 builds. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:22:13If you look at refinish, you have seen significant changes here in terms of market decline. The amazing thing, or I think what I'm really proud of, what we have been able to accomplish is even in that macro environment, all of those three elements have come and played a significant part in our execution strategy. From a cost standpoint, the margin expansion that you see consistently quarter over quarter and the EBITDA growth and the EPS performance is all coming from really a lot of the proactive cost actions we took. From a share gain standpoint, you can see that across at least three of our four end markets, we continue to expand and gain market well beyond the current market environment. Finally, price mix has been a consistent good story for us. I would say the strategy continues to work. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:23:12The A plan has, I think, been a great structure for us, and it's really providing the resilience in a tough market. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:23:23Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:23:26Welcome, Chris. Operator00:23:28Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mike Leithead with Barclays. Your line is now open. Mike LeitheadDirector at Barclays00:23:34Great. Thanks. Good morning, team. Just a question on refinish. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:23:39Hi, Chris. Mike LeitheadDirector at Barclays00:23:39Good morning, Chris. Question on refinish. You have that slide nine on the macro, which is helpful. I think it shows collision claims, body shop activity down something like high single digits on a two-year stack. I think most investors historically have thought about refinish being a fairly steady industry. I guess, how does your team get comfortable that this is just a macro blip and not something more structural like ADAS or changing consumer insurance behavior? How, if at all, are you pivoting the refinish business to help handle this downturn? Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:24:12Yeah, that's a really good question, Mike. I think if you look at the business, and you even go back six to nine quarters, the business has been low to mid-single digits, claims decline for at least nine quarters. We have been facing, let's call it, a weak macro in refinish for about nine quarters. What's driving that? Parts of it, you could argue, are structural, and parts of it have been, let's call it, destocking that happened through the first half of last year related to a large distributor, LKQ, acquiring FinishMaster. If you went through some of the other changes, for example, we have faced three years-four years of hyperinflation. We see claims have continued to go down, primarily also driven by the cost of repairs and full write-offs. Another aspect of this is insurance premiums. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:25:15If you look from a 2023 to a 2024 basis, they have gone up about 20%. There has been a lot of factors that have driven the decline. If you break it down to consumer confidence here, one of the things you can notice is folks have been pulling collision off their claims, and a lot of it is also related to folks also cashing in claims just based on where the economy is. To your question, how do you get comfortable around 2025 and where the market is going? I think parts of that structural, let's call it, change, you might see some sign of life or light coming on the back half. Insurance claims are starting to flatline. Used car pricing is coming up, which helps. Miles driven is still continuing to grow up. We see a 1% increase. We had some bad weather last year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:26:14Most importantly for me, the way I'm looking at it is the back half of last year, we had, let's call it, a high single-digit decline. We're going to start lapping it in the back half of this year. I do believe there's an opportunity for this to become at least more stable. If you look at our guide, we're still predicting this to be down mid to high single digits. We've moved our forecast from flat to low single digits to mid to high single digits or mid-single digits decline in the back half of the year. It kind of gives you a perspective that we're planning for the continued decline here, and any balance or any stability in the market would be a good news story for us. Mike LeitheadDirector at Barclays00:27:01Thank you so much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:27:02You're welcome. Operator00:27:05Thank you. We'll take our next question from Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Your line is now open. Steve ByrneAnalyst at Bank of America00:27:11Yes, thank you. How much of this 400-basis-point margin expansion target for industrial has already been achieved? Do you have other initiatives that are still playing out this year that will drive that margin? More importantly, are there other initiatives you're considering beyond the A plan? I got the impression from your year-ago investor event on the tour that the productivity initiatives that you're looking at now are just scratching the surface. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:27:51Steve, good morning. It's Carl. I can take that question on industrial. If I look at the margin performance, in 2024, we were pretty close to driving about 300 basis points of an increase in our industrial margin business or our industrial business. I think as we kind of look forward this year, even in a pretty challenging macro, we are planning to probably most likely exceed our 400-basis-points margin target from improvement that we laid out a year ago. I think the team has done a very good job of executing on various cost actions internally. I think we're benefiting from our purchasing team and the continued progress that they're making in managing our raw materials and our buy. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:28:41I think there are selective pricing actions that the team has been getting to execute and have executed over the last 12 months as well. I think we feel very good about the margin trajectory of that business. This year, we'll definitely look at we'll be exceeding the target we laid out back in May of last year. Operator00:29:04Thank you. We'll take our next question from John Roberts with [BMO Capital Markets]. Your line is now open. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:29:12Good morning, John. Operator00:29:19John, please check the mute function on your device. John, your line is open. We will now take our question from Ghansham Panjabi with Baird. Your line is open. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst of Packaging and Materials at Baird00:29:43Hey, guys. Good morning. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:29:45All right. Good morning Ghansham. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst of Packaging and Materials at Baird00:29:47Good morning, Chris. I just want to go back to your comments on auto refinish and just kind of zooming out to the high level. Many of the factors you've touched on as it relates to affordability and collision claims and insurance, etc., are probably going to be quite sticky for a while. I am just curious as to your thoughts as it relates to what could be the catalyst for the industry from a volume standpoint going forward. Just given your expansion into the broader market, the economy segment, etc., for that business, price mix has been very positive for that segment for a very long time. Do you see that trend line sort of changing as you adjust your strategy as well towards the economy? Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:30:28Yeah. Thanks for the question. Yeah, there are elements of that that is sticky. If you think about where, for example, insurance claims and the broader macro, specifically if consumer confidence continues to wane and folks with inflation sticking where it is, you're right, Ghansham. There's a risk that this stays for a bit longer. If you start then breaking it down into our strategy, what are the things that will drive that? One more thing. There are opportunities for that to break. For example, if you see where the backlogs were when you go back to COVID at body shops, they were quite long. We were talking about 12 weeks-16 weeks. That is starting to come down. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:31:16What you can see is with the reduced backlogs, there is an opportunity there for repair costs to also go down over time, which will drive more business back into the body shops. Another element of this is with where the tariffs and where new car pricing is being driven, used car pricing going up also creates an opportunity where you have more folks putting cars into the repair base. The final aspect of this is, as I watch this, the car park continues to increase. Again, I do believe that there are opportunities for this marketplace to improve. We are not counting on that. I think what is important to the second half of your question is how are we addressing this. If you look at our Q1 performance on body shop wins, normally we average about 600 body shop net wins a quarter. We did 900. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:32:13If you look back over the last two to three years, we've done about 2,400 net body shop wins-2,600 net body shop wins. I see the strength of our performance in Q1 as a good sign of market share wins. If you go back over that same period of time, what's essentially led to our overperformance because the markets have been weak over the last couple of years is our continued win ratio. The cool part of this is also then getting into the mainstream and economy business. Obviously, CoverFlex helped us with this. Our market share there is significantly lower than where we are in the premium. As you know, in the premium, we lead. Axalta is the leader in refinish. We have over 40% market share. In mainstream and economy, this is somewhere between 9%-11%. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:33:07We have a great opportunity to grow there. A lot of the wins that we saw in last quarter was also in this space. This does affect us from, if you look at from a margin perspective, because it's lower than what we have in refinish. Net to Axalta, it's accretive. It's a great story for us and certainly the strategy that we're going to continue to execute over the next few quarters. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst of Packaging and Materials at Baird00:33:38Perfect. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:33:40You're welcome. Operator00:33:41Thank you. We'll take our next question, Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open. Kevin McCarthyPartner at Vertical Research Partners00:33:49Good morning, all. Chris, I appreciate the detail that you provided on slide five regarding the gross tariff impacts and the mitigation actions. I was wondering if you could clarify a few things. Is the intent to fully mitigate the tariff impacts that you quantified? How long might it take for you to accomplish that? I am specifically curious about the bottom action of executing pricing. Have you announced any new pricing actions? If not, what sort of timing are you contemplating for that lever? Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:34:35Yeah. Good morning, Kevin. Good question. Stepping back and looking at the impact of tariffs for us, what I talked about was $25 million in this year or a $50 million year impact over the full year. If you break that down and you think about the impact for Axalta, again, as I said in my remarks, 90% is local for local and 10% of raws, even after going back to the announcement we made at the year-end call, it's pretty much similar is the impact of raw materials that are going across borders. What I want to break it down to is there are probably about four or five levers we can pull before we look at pricing. That's certainly the approach we're taking at speed first. It's primarily if you start looking at it, we have the opportunity to vertically integrate. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:35:30We have, with where volumes are in some of the regions, not so much in China, but certainly in North America, we have the ability to vertically integrate, which is essentially manufacture more in our facilities because we have available capacity. We are working with our supply base to essentially bring in material for local for local. If they have plants or if they can move capacities around, we are working with that. Specific to refinish, we are also working on some strategic inventory action. 90% of what we do is we work through distribution, and our distribution partners have inventory. We are working with them to essentially use up some of the inventory until we determine or have more clarity on where we are going with tariffs. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:36:21Finally, there's lots of opportunity to reformulate, working with our engineering teams to reformulate products of available supply on continent to be able to offset some of the cost. We will look at pricing. Now, to your question on pricing, we have gone out with pricing as we normally do. We implemented about a 7% pricing, for example, in the beginning of the year with refinish in North America, about 4% in Europe. These are pricing actions that we took proactively in some regions because we were already facing the impact of the tariff coming in earlier on, the 10% tariff, the $10 million that we talked about in Q1. Those were actions that we took. Again, as I look at it, it's certainly something that we have in plan to offset, but we're very confident in offsetting the $25 million of tariff impact this year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:37:22It might take us probably a quarter, but we'll certainly get it done this year. Kevin McCarthyPartner at Vertical Research Partners00:37:29Very good. Thanks very much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:37:31You're welcome. Operator00:37:33Thank you. We'll take our next question from Joshua Spector with UBS. Your line is now open. Lucas BeaumontDirector of Equity Research Analyst at UBS00:37:40Good morning. This is Lucas Beaumont for Josh. I just wanted to look at the updated EBITDA phasing for the year. You're now kind of pointing to low single-digit declines in 2Q, but then shifting to 7% growth in the second half. On the one hand there, you've got the new wins coming in in the second half, but on the other, the macro environment is sort of getting weaker with increased headwinds there. Can you just walk us through your assumptions and the setup there and what's giving you confidence on being able to deliver on that stepped-up second-half growth outlook? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:38:15Yeah. Thanks, Lucas. Yeah. If you look at just the first half total EBITDA using the midpoint of our current guide, relative to the full year, that implies about the first half will be about 48% of our total EBITDA. A year ago, we did about 49%. So I think the EBITDA progression year on year is very similar to what we had a year ago. To your point, as we think about some of the wins specifically in Brazil, are beginning to ramp up in the third quarter, which will provide some significant tailwind as we think about that revenue that will be coming in in the second half of the year. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:38:56I think as we look at the rest of the businesses as well, we are planning for overall revenue to be slightly higher as we think about it in the second half, just driven by a little bit more stabilization, what Chris pointed out in refinish as we kind of finish out the year, as well as industrial. We do not forget our industrial business was down about 6% in the first quarter. We believe that trend line will begin to change as we kind of get into the second half. Operator00:39:33Thank you. We'll take our next question from Jeff Zekaris with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Jeff ZekarisAnalyst at JPMorgan00:39:40Thanks very much. Normally, your EBITDA steps up in the second quarter from the first quarter. Normally, it's more refinish-driven, I think. I think you spoke about your refinish prices being flat year over year. Is the idea that it might take some time before the benefits of those price increases make themselves felt? Secondly, can you talk about how the light vehicle market demand felt to you in March and April? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:40:23Yeah. Thanks, Jeff. Yeah. If I look at your right, typically Q1 to Q2, you do see a sequential tick up. You're seeing that, right, with our EBITDA guide. We're going to be up about $15 million of EBITDA at the midpoint. If I look at kind of the businesses as well, we're kind of forecasting to be down about low single-digit percent on a year-over-year basis in the second quarter. That is implying that your second quarter revenue will be running probably $50 million-$70 million higher on a sequential basis. That's still kind of holding true for us embedded in the guide. The one thing that Chris referenced regarding some of the cost impacts from tariffs, we are seeing that a little bit of headwind in the second quarter before we can kind of fully recover that. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:41:17That is when you'll start seeing some of those pricing actions kind of kick in to provide a full quarter coverage. Relative to mobility, I think the one point that we wanted to really highlight with that business, the team has done a really just a phenomenal job of continuing the outperformance in China as well as in Brazil. That is coming in. You can see the margin performance within that business now. We delivered 16.5% EBITDA margin in Q1. As we look forward, even in this challenging macro for autos and what we're forecasting at this point, we expect that mobility business to be running north of 16% for the full year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:42:00Maybe just to add, I think Carl's captured all of it, just at probably a little bit more color on the refinish margin. One of the other things that we're working with is working with our distribution partners who have inventory, obviously, in the system to be able to use up some of that inventory to manage the impact of tariffs. That is how we've also defined our Q2 guide. When I come back again to add to Carl's points, I mean, on the mobility side, certainly the marketplace has been in great shape, not only if we look at our performance in LATAM and China, but we're also seeing signs of life in North America with currently some of the business plan, the family plans that have been announced by the big three. We will wait and see how all this plays out. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:42:52Obviously, there is also the challenge of supply chain to make those cars based on the impact of tariffs on things like raw materials and semiconductors. Once we get past that, you do see an opportunity for quite a tailwind also in that marketplace. Jeff ZekarisAnalyst at JPMorgan00:43:11Thank you. Operator00:43:13Thank you. We'll take our next question from Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Vincent AndrewsManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:43:20Hi. I just wanted to get a little more detail on the free cash flow guidance. It was, I think, a single target before, $500 million. Now it is $475 million-$500 million. What is causing the sort of introduction of the range and the lower end? Just looking at your cash flow statement, can you remind us what is in that other accrued liabilities bucket that was a $106 million drawdown of cash in the quarter? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:43:43Yeah. Thanks, Vincent. Yeah. If I look at the free cash flow guide, we did put a range on that. The one thing you'll notice in the first quarter, we had about $11 million of restructuring expense. A lot of that was cost actions as we were really kind of getting out in front of some of the headwinds we're seeing from the macro environment. I would say the bulk of that impact on free cash flow was really driven by just higher restructuring cash outlays that we're going to have in the rest of the year is what kind of drove the range. Overall, we still very good. It's going to be a very solid and very strong free cash flow year for us. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:44:23As I think about your question about other liabilities, the big change there is the bulk of that relates to our annual bonus payment accrual as well as some additional restructuring charges. Vincent AndrewsManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:44:35Thank you very much. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:44:37Thank you. Operator00:44:38Thank you. We'll take our next question from Aleksey Yefremov from KeyBanc. Your line is now open. Aleksey YefremovManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc00:44:46Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Chris, you already spoke about your refinish value segment. I was hoping to get a little more details on how this segment is doing relative to the broader market. Is this segment benefiting because of its sort of value nature, or is this segment of consumer not doing as well? If you can tell us if you're growing in this segment faster than your refinish business overall, in line, or slower? Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:45:22Sure. Great question. I'll break it into three sections, Aleksey. Good morning. The first one is if you think about it, for us, we got into this with CoverFlex. Obviously, we had UPOL, and we put all this together. What we were driving is to obviously expand our market share from, let's call it that, 10% up. From that perspective, CoverFlex as a whole, we're right on if we look at our 2024 deal metrics, we're right on plan. That's working out well. If you look at the second half of your question, how is the market responding? Obviously, this is the, let's call it this aspect relates to where consumers are a little bit more cautious. This is more value-driven. The consumers here are not so much tied to insurance. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:46:17These are folks that are making choices on repairing their cars outside insurance or just improving the look of their cars. From that perspective, the consumer confidence is waning. You can see, let's call it here, demand is a little bit weaker. Now, to your last question about how are we performing here, I would say if I looked at just Q1 performance in our win ratio, I would say we're performing above the market here. You can also see it a little bit in our performance when I look at it in how our margins are trending because this is growing faster than our premium business because we have such significant market share in our premium business. This is obviously a business that we took on to grow. It is growing faster. That is a great sign. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:47:12I would say confidence, the consumer confidence in this market, though, is probably dropping more than what we're seeing in our premium segment. I hope that provides the color you're looking for. Vincent AndrewsManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:47:26Great. Thanks, Chris. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:47:28You're welcome. Operator00:47:29Thank you. We'll take our next question from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Caleb BoehnleinAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:47:36Hey, good morning. This is Caleb on for John. For the full-year sales guide, you lowered that despite FX being less of a headwind than it was at the start of the year. The EBITDA guide remained intact due to what you said earlier on the cost savings. Yo`u also kept the $30 million-$40 million of cost savings goal for the year. Maybe could you just talk to how that's exactly netting out or if there's maybe potential upside to the $30 million-$40 million cost savings you're looking for? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:48:07Yeah. I think it's a good question. I think I had two points on that. I do think overall, based off some of the recent cost actions that we've executed, this was really under a different plan than maybe the original transformation initiative of the $30 milllion-$40 million that we were highlighting before. So we're definitely seeing more opportunities on the cost side and that we're executing on. I would say that would be the first point. I think the second point is when we started the year, when we kind of gave a full-year outlook at the time, I think there's always, to some degree, some level of conservatism as well that we had with the original outlook. I would, and that's coming into play now, especially with revenue being a little bit softer than we originally were anticipating. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:48:57I would say it was between both of those items that allowed us to be able to hold serve on our EBITDA range at this point. Caleb BoehnleinAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:49:05Okay. Thanks for the color and congrats on the quarter. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:49:08Thank you. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:49:08Thank you. Operator00:49:10Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is now open. Mike HarrisonManaging Director and Senior Chemicals Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:49:17Hi. Good morning. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:49:19Good morning, Mike. Mike HarrisonManaging Director and Senior Chemicals Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:49:20Within the refinish business, you noted that you're seeing customers cashing in claims and with reduced insurance claims, probably a lot of damage or dings and things like that that's not being repaired right now. What does that mean when these damaged vehicles are sold when somebody wants to buy a new car or trade it in for a used car? How much business do you guys have with big resellers like CarMax or AutoNation or other dealership groups? Are you starting to see any growth in that segment of the market for refinish coatings? Thanks. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:50:02Yeah. That's a great question, Mike. I think that's the good news, if there is any good news, is the fact that with new car pricing going up with the possibility of tariffs, what we are seeing is used car pricing going up. As you look at folks essentially turning in cars into a dealership and the dealership looking at taking that repair cost and essentially splitting it up, to your point, and looking at things like CarMax, those folks and what they're doing in that space, which provides us an opportunity here to see a lot more cars coming in at some point. Again, I think it's a question of time that drives stability back in the marketplace because you've seen four to six quarters of, let's call it, significant decline in this marketplace. I do believe that that is a good opportunity for us. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:51:00We have a really strong presence in that marketplace. I do think that is an opportunity for us long term. I think a lot of what is driving the current market is, as I'm sure I've heard from every call, the level of uncertainty. I think once we have some clarity on the uncertainty, the market dynamics will play out over a period of time. It's just a question of time. I think folks are just waiting to make decisions, whether it's the folks like CarMax and the actual repair folks as well as the consumer itself. As I view it, it's just a question of time. Obviously, the longer that the uncertainty plays out, that creates a bit of a risk for us. Beyond that, I do believe that there's an opportunity for stabilization in the marketplace over time. Mike HarrisonManaging Director and Senior Chemicals Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:52:04Thanks very much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:52:06You're welcome. Operator00:52:08Thank you. We'll take our next question from Laurent Favre with BNP. Your line is now open. Laurent FavreHead of Chemicals Equity Research at BNP00:52:15Yes. Good morning. A question on capital allocation, please. Can you talk about your priorities in terms of cash deployment between deleveraging given uncertainty versus share buybacks or indeed other M&A as we hear that there are some assets on the block? Thank you. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:52:32Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Capital allocation for us continues and will remain a significant lever for us to drive value creation for our shareholders going forward. As I look at it, our free cash flow in the first quarter is always a seasonal low point. If you think about the next three quarters, we expect to deliver about $500 million of cash flow over that time period. If you look at the capital allocations priority here in the first quarter, we did ramp up our capital expenditures. We almost doubled that from what we did a year ago, which was consistent with our A plan strategy as we continue to see very significant productivity opportunities within our network. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:53:15Having said all of that, though, if I look at just our interest expense and where that's running at about $180 million, that's exactly what we pegged to be the interest expense for 2026. Our net leverage is at 2.5x. As we go forward, our plan is really to allocate capital between share repurchases as well as opportunistic M&A. Just given where we are from an overall interest expense and leverage profile, we are going to continue to naturally deleverage as we go forward. It does open up those opportunities to be selective and focused really to sunshare buybacks and opportunistic M&A. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:53:56Maybe just to add a little bit on the look on M&A, as I said in the last quarter, I think this is certainly something that we will continue to look at for the rest of the year. From our perspective, I think there were two things that coming in we were trying to solve for Axalta. One was the financial performance and really building the foundation for us to be able to grow. I think with what we have done with the four out of the five elements of the A plan, we have certainly been able to accomplish that from my perspective, even in the challenging macro. As I think about what is the next evolution of what we have to solve with Axalta, it is really the growth algorithm. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:54:46Anything that provides a growth factor above our current end markets and that really provides value with the operational emphasis that we have for our shareholders and also for us as a company, I think those are the things that we will continue to look at at an opportunistic path considering where the market plays out today. Laurent FavreHead of Chemicals Equity Research at BNP00:55:14Very clear. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:55:15Thank you. You're welcome. Operator00:55:17Thank you. We'll take our next question from David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. David BegleiterManaging Director at Deutsche Bank00:55:23Thank you. Good morning. Chris, mobility margins, they were very nice in the quarter. Where can they go longer term? Can they get to the upper teens or even 20% longer term? Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:55:36It's a good question, David. Good morning. I think we're certainly proud of where that team has done an exceptional job getting the margins. What's interesting, if you really break it out and pull out of it and look at it, just taking a minute here, is the fact that commercial vehicle has a significantly higher margin than our light vehicle business. With the significant decline that we saw in Q1 and actually we're forecasting for the rest of the year, you can see what the teams have been able to do with the light vehicle business to be able to and combined to be able to manage the decline in margin. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:56:21The really, really good news story for me there is being proactive in going after and growing the CTS business, which is really looking at RVs and sports utility vehicles and all the ambulances and special fire trucks and getting all those contracts in place and being proactive to see the possibility of a decline and winning all that business. That has been a great story. I think going to your question on margins, if I look at this as a cyclical low point, there is opportunity for upside here in margin. Obviously, I would call it 16% is a good spot for us to start off with. It is certainly something that we are planning to hold. I look forward to maybe talking about some better opportunities. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:57:14Again, we want to see how we grow in LATAM and also continue to grow in CTS before we can commit to anything here. David BegleiterManaging Director at Deutsche Bank00:57:23Thank you. Operator00:57:25Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mike Sison with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Mike SisonManaging Director at Wells Fargo00:57:31Hey, good morning. Just one quick one on refinish. Industry volumes are going to be down this year. What do you think happens to volumes if we do go into a U.S. recession? Could you maybe give me a quick history lesson? When was the last time industry volumes were positive or collision claims were positive? What was the environment? Was it better interest rates, better consumer sentiment? Just sort of maybe a backdrop of when the markets were better. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:58:03Yeah. I think just looking at data, I would say it's got to be pre-pandemic where volumes have been increasing, to be honest with you. If I look at it, certainly if I look at my tenure here, I would say the last nine quarters, we have continued to see volume declines. Obviously, claims have also declined during that time. If you look at our industry, our business specifically in refinish, though, if you went back even beyond the nine quarters and you went right back to the pandemic and looked at four years or 16 quarters, this business has consistently grown sales and performed financially quarter over quarter better over the last at least 14 quarters that I have data in front of me. I would tell you the performance is really driven. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:59:02It's not, I think there's a perspective that this is pricing, but it's really a multitude of, let's call it, execution philosophies that they've driven, whether it's M&A, whether it's growing body shop, net body shops winning. It's the value proposition that they bring to the customers. I look at the fact that whether it's for color or efficiency, we are the best in the marketplace at both of those things. I can say that because we continue to be the leader in the premium segment. The consistency of essentially reducing the time and the effort and the cost within our body shops is the reason why this team's won over 10,000 body shops if I look at that same period of the last three to four years. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:59:59I think that's the strength of our business, even though we have seen volume declines for what I would say is over four to five years. Now, specific to what the future holds for the business, I think, as I said, I do believe that insurance premiums flatlining here as I look at Q1, the fact that used car pricing is starting to go up, and also the availability of capacity and, let's call it, the possibility of repair costs coming down. You can see this also with actions that certain states are taking. They're essentially driving the loss thresholds from 75% up to 85%. I think four states have enacted that. Finally, the fact that we are wrapping high single-digit claims increases or decreases from the last half of back half of last year into this year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:00:58I do believe that there's an opportunity for this marketplace to stabilize here. I hope that gives you some clarity of what I see the back half of 2025 doing. Mike SisonManaging Director at Wells Fargo01:01:09All right. Great. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:01:11You're welcome. Operator01:01:12Thank you. We'll take our next question from Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Your line is now open. Patrick CunninghamVP and Relationship Associate at Citi01:01:18Hi, good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in here. It seems like you're still forecasting some back half growth in industrials, but overall, housing sentiment, building products is not great with indirect and direct impacts from tariffs, high interest rates. Why does that outlook still hold? How meaningful are these new business wins from a top-line perspective? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems01:01:41Yeah. Thanks, Patrick. Yeah. As I look at the second half for industrial, we are seeing the market up slightly if I look on a sequential basis. You are talking probably incrementally $10 million-$15 million higher each quarter as I think about the third quarter and the fourth quarter from what the run rate was in the second quarter. Not a significant dollar increase. I will tell you, as we think about the base business, the team in Asia-Pacific continues to outperform. We are seeing that growth is helping offset some of the weakness here you are seeing in North America. I will say Europe has begun to stabilize and is showing some pockets of potential growth as well. I think those are the two areas where we think we have a little bit of higher revenue opportunities in the second half. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems01:02:32Yeah. Maybe just to give a shout-out to our team in China. I think even looking at our April results, I would say specifically in what we do for coatings, our VoltaTex product that we do provide coatings for both motors and what we provide even for, let's call it, windings or drones. We provide this product that essentially does a great job in connectivity or conductivity as well as reducing heat. And it's just an exceptional product that we've seen some great growth with. So the teams have done an exceptional job continuing to grow there. China has been a good story for us in our industrial business. Mike SisonManaging Director at Wells Fargo01:03:18Great. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:03:20Thank you. Operator01:03:21Thank you. We have reached our allotted time for questions. I will now turn the program back over to Chris Villavarayan for any additional or closing remarks. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:03:31Thank you. Before we close, I really want to emphasize that the A plan is working. We consistently delivered operational excellence and exceeded our financial targets in a challenging macro. Again, I really want to thank Axalta's employees for uniting around a clear set of priorities. While we believe the environment in 2025 is somewhat uncertain, I'm confident that our team will perform at the high level that we have, and we're well-positioned for when the markets turn around. With that, thank you for joining us today. Operator01:04:12This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Axalta Coating Systems Q1-25 Earnings Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the presentation by management. Today's call is being recorded, and a replay will be available through May 14th. Those listening after today's call should please note that information provided in the recording will not be updated and therefore may no longer be current. I will now turn the call over to Colleen Lubic, Vice President of Investor Relations. Colleen LubicVP of Investor Relations at Axalta Coating Systems00:00:36Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today to discuss our fiscal 2025 first quarter results. This is Colleen Lubic, Vice President of Investor Relations. Joining me today are Chris Villavarayan, CEO and President, and Carl Anderson, Chief Financial Officer. We posted our first quarter financial results and our earnings release this morning. As a reminder, you can find additional materials, including today's presentation and associated schedules, on the investor relations section of our website at axalta.com, which we will be referring to during this call. Our prepared remarks, the slide presentation, and our discussion today may contain forward-looking statements reflecting the company's current view of future events and their potential effect on Axalta's operating and financial performance. These statements involve uncertainties and risks, and actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements. Colleen LubicVP of Investor Relations at Axalta Coating Systems00:01:29Please note that the company is under no obligation to provide updates to these forward-looking statements. Our remarks and the slide presentation also contain various non-GAAP financial measures. We have included reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Refer to our filings with the SEC for more information. We kindly ask that you limit yourself to one question at a time to give others the opportunity to have their questions addressed. I would like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:02:02Thank you, Colleen. We're pleased to report another strong quarter of financial results for our first quarter record for adjusted EBITDA and adjusted diluted EPS. I want to thank Axalta's employees for rallying together to deliver our A plan priorities and maintaining our strong execution and resilient performance. Net sales remained flat to the first quarter of last year on a constant currency basis, with contributions from CoverFlex and a positive price mix mitigating volume declines. Adjusted EBITDA was $270 million, representing a 4% increase year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margin grew by 140 basis points year over year, marking the 10th consecutive quarter of adjusted EBITDA margin growth. Driving A plan initiatives, improving our operations, and reinvesting in the business remain a top priority for us. Despite wage inflation, operating expenses decreased by 4% from last year due to savings from our transformation initiative introduced in 2024. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:03:12Capital expenditures have nearly doubled compared to Q1 of 2024, driven by incremental investments designed to enhance productivity in our operations. Our balance sheet remains robust, with total net leverage remaining steady for the year-end at 2.5x. Adjusted diluted EPS grew by 16% year over year to $0.59. This marks the seventh consecutive quarter of adjusted diluted EPS growth. Innovation is fundamental to enhancing the customer experience. In the first quarter, we are proud to be the recipients of two Edison Awards and a Big Innovation Award. This is the seventh consecutive year that Axalta has earned an Edison Award, which honors industry-leading innovations in new products and services. This year, Axalta's Irus Scan and Axalta's MyColor were recognized. Irus Scan is the first handheld color measurement device for the collision repair industry. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:04:18It has the ability to capture color sparkle, hue-shifting pigments, and gloss to provide an accurate color match for vehicle repairs. Axalta's MyColor offers an innovative color creation delivery process. This technology streamlines automotive OEM approvals, enabling custom colors to be available in as little as four weeks instead of more than a year. We were presented with a Big Innovation Award by the Business Intelligence Group for our Voltatex product. Voltatex is a wire enamel that improves the reliability and efficiency of electric vehicles and other high-performance electrical systems. These awards underscore our strengths of our product pipeline and our ability to convert investments in R and D and technology into solutions that appeal for our customers and differentiate Axalta's offerings. Let's move to slide four. Three of our four end-markets showed macro declines in the quarter. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:05:21Axalta, however, was able to generate positive organic net sales in both mobility and markets and achieve an organic net sales performance in refinish above industry trends compared to the same period last year. In refinish, organic net sales decreased by 1%, while the industry was down mid-single digits based on industry metrics that we tracked. The external demand pressures experienced in 2024 continued to affect collision claims and body shop repair activity in the first quarter. These factors are driven by insurance premium inflation, increasing repair costs, and waning consumer confidence. Irrespective of industry dynamics, we were able to add approximately 900 net new body shops, grow in adjacencies, and expand further in the economy segment. Organic net sales in light vehicle increased by 2%. Volume for light vehicle aligned with global auto production, which rose by 1%. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:06:26We also achieved double-digit volume growth year over year in both China and Latin America, surpassing auto production growth in both those geographies. Commercial vehicle organic net sales grew by 2%, while Class 8 heavy-duty production in North America dropped by 17%. We mitigated industry pressure from the heavy-duty truck sector by executing on our commercial transportation solution priorities across various applications, including recreational and public safety vehicles. Additionally, we expanded our presence outside the Americas. As a result, together with strong performance in light vehicle and price cost stability, the mobility segment's margin expanded by 230 basis points to 16.5%, the highest margin since first quarter of 2021. Industrial organic net sales decreased by 4% year over year, in line with broader trends. Across our end businesses, we continue to see mixed signals. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:07:35Industrial production in the United States increased slightly year over year in the first quarter, but contracted in March, while most European economies experienced declines. North American housing declined for the fourth consecutive quarter, causing a slow start to the season for our North American building products business. Despite these challenges, the team's focus on portfolio mix and productivity improvements resulted in an adjusted EBITDA margin increase for the eighth consecutive quarter. Let's move to slide five. With the increased trade tensions that emerged during the quarter, we wanted to provide some color on Axalta's global landscape. As shown in the presentation, our business is geographically diverse, with 38% of our net sales in North America and 16% in Asia-Pacific. Most importantly, approximately 90% of our products are manufactured and sold within the same region, significantly reducing our exposure to international tariffs. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:08:42Additionally, only about 10% of our total purchases are currently impacted by the new tariffs. The team has already done a fantastic job of maximizing USMCA-compliant products in North America, minimizing tariffs across the regions. Based on our current business model, we estimate tariffs imposed in 2025 could now cost approximately $50 million annually, with about $25 million expected to impact in 2025. Carl will take you through how this impacts the guide later in the discussion. Through various means, including insourcing, sourcing raw materials locally, reformulating products, managing strategic inventory, and pricing, we believe we have avenues for structural improvements if tariffs were to become permanent. I will now turn the call over to Carl to go through our financial results and updated 2025 guidance. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:09:45Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. Let's turn to slide six. First quarter net sales decreased by approximately 3% year over year to $1.26 billion, primarily driven by a 3% unfavorable foreign currency impact and lower volumes, partially offset by positive price mix and contributions from CoverFlex. Gross margins were 34% in the quarter, an increase of 110 basis points over last year. Income from operations increased by $55 million, as we had significantly lower restructuring expense compared to a year ago when we announced and started to execute on our 2024 transformation initiative. Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was $270 million, 4% above last year, marking another record quarter for adjusted EBITDA performance. Variable costs declined by low single digits, slightly better than anticipated. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:10:43For the full year 2025, we now believe that raw material costs will be approximately flat year on year, excluding the direct impact of tariffs. Our productivity pipeline remains strong, and we expect it to drive sustained improvements to our operating model going forward. SG&A declined 2% when compared to the first quarter of last year, and our fixed operating expenses were down approximately 4%, inclusive of wage inflation. We continue to benefit from savings related to the 2024 transformation initiative. Additionally, incremental cost management initiatives implemented at the start of the year also helped to mitigate the challenges from a weaker macro. Lastly, adjusted diluted earnings per share increased 16% to $0.59, a first quarter record, driven by higher overall earnings and lower interest expense compared to the first quarter of last year. Moving to slide seven. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:11:45Net sales for performance coatings declined 3% year over year to $822 million, driven primarily by both lower volumes and unfavorable foreign currency impacts. These headwinds were partially offset by contributions from CoverFlex. Refinish net sales decreased 2% to $511 million. The incremental contributions from CoverFlex partially offset foreign currency headwinds and volume declines in Europe and North America. Price mix was roughly flat in the quarter, as price increases were offset by negative mix impacts. Industrial net sales declined 6% year over year to $311 million due to volume declines, predominantly driven by weakness in North America and Europe, partially offset by growth in China. Positive price mix partially mitigated the impact of unfavorable foreign currency headwinds. Overall, first quarter performance coatings adjusted EBITDA increased 1% year over year to $197 million. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:12:50Adjusted EBITDA margin increased by 100 basis points, 24.1%, primarily driven by lower operating expenses and lower variable costs. Let's move to mobility coatings results on slide eight. Mobility coatings first quarter 2025 net sales were $440 million, a decrease of 1% from the prior year, inclusive of a 3% headwind from foreign currency. Light vehicle net sales were down 1% in the first quarter. On a constant currency basis, net sales grew 2%, driven by volume growth in China and Latin America, which more than offset anticipated declines in North America and Europe. Price mix was a low single-digit tailwind in the quarter, driven by selective pricing and favorable mix. Commercial vehicle net sales declined 3%, primarily due to foreign currency headwinds. On a constant currency basis, net sales grew 2%, driven primarily by positive price mix. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:13:55Mobility coatings adjusted EBITDA in the quarter improved by 15% to $73 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by 230 basis points versus last year, coming in at 16.5%. Margin expansion in both businesses was primarily driven by positive price mix and a reduction in operating expenses. Turning to slide nine. Based on the current economic environment, we are updating our market expectations for the year. Uncertainty persists, and recent industry data is coming in softer than we were forecasting at the beginning of the year. In our global refinish business, we now expect the industry to be down low single to mid-single digits on a year-over-year basis, compared to flat to down low single digits previously. Insurance claims data continues to post declines in both North America and Europe. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:14:51Repair costs have increased by over 10% since 2022, and the average age of the car park is approaching 13 years in North America. These industry drivers, along with higher distribution inventory levels in North America, are expected to offset an increase in miles driven. Our strategy remains unchanged as we continue to add new body shops, expand further into the economy segment, accelerate accessory growth, and look to add bolt-on M&A as evidenced by our execution during the quarter. Overall, we expect our refinish results to outpace industry trends and deliver strong adjusted EBITDA again this year. For industrial, we previously anticipated modest low single-digit growth year on year, with positive trends in Europe and North America expected in the second half. In February 2025, the ISM PMI signaled a second consecutive month of economic expansion. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:15:53However, the rise in trade tensions and growing consumer pessimism led to a pullback in March manufacturing's PMI, erasing the gains from January and February. Additionally, GDP growth projections for the U.S., Europe, and China are trending lower. Given the current climate, we now expect the industry to remain flat or to decline low single digits, with a clear outlook for economic expansion dependent on future trade policy developments. Overall, we will continue to execute on our strategy of expanding margin in our industrial business through cost actions and portfolio optimization. Global auto production for 2025 is now forecasted at just under 88 million units, a 2% decline from last year. Despite recent downward revisions due to tariffs and affordability concerns, we expect to outpace the industry, particularly in China and Brazil, due to the successful ramp-up of new business wins. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:16:55For the USMCA Class 8 market, the 2025 production forecast has been revised down to 255,000 units, a decline of over 20% compared to 332,000 units in 2024. Initially, industry projections were roughly flat year over year, but these were adjusted in April in response to softer consumer trends impacting the freight sector. Our business, however, continues to perform well as we gain new business in commercial transportation solutions and in Brazil, which are all aligned with our A plan growth strategy. Let's turn to slide 10 for the second quarter and full year 2025 guidance. In the second quarter, we anticipate macro factors to affect all four end markets, primarily driven by slowing global demand and lower body shop activity in North America. Net sales for the company are projected to decrease low single digits versus the prior year, with partial offsets from pricing actions and CoverFlex. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:17:59Second quarter adjusted EBITDA is projected to be between $280 million and $290 million, and adjusted diluted earnings per share is estimated to be between $0.60 and $0.63. While we expect to execute mitigation strategies and increase prices related to tariffs, we don't expect to see a full run rate of the effects in the second quarter. For the full year, we remain cautious regarding the global demand environment and are slightly revising down our net sales guide based on current industry dynamics. We now expect net sales to be in a range of $5.3 billion-$5.375 billion, an approximate 1% increase at the midpoint year on year. With the weakening U.S. dollar, we now expect the foreign exchange translation impact on revenue to be about a $25 million headwind year on year compared to a $100 million headwind in our previous outlook. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:18:55Our adjusted EBITDA and adjusted diluted earnings per share outlook remains unchanged as we are driving down operating costs to offset the impact from lower revenue. Adjusted EBITDA margins for the full year are now expected to be close to 22%, expanding approximately 60 basis points over last year. In addition, free cash flow is now expected to be in a range of $475 million-$500 million, down slightly from our previous outlook, driven primarily from increased cash outlays from higher restructuring costs. I will now hand the call back to Chris. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:19:29Thanks, Carl. I want to emphasize that our top priority remains delivering on our A plan targets. From vast improvements in our safety metrics to supply chain optimization and meaningful business wins, we're transforming the company. Based on our 2025 full year guidance, we're on track to achieve four of our five financial objectives a full year ahead of schedule, and the teams are executing well across all pillars. While the macro environment remains uncertain, the strategic actions we have taken enable us to be more stable and resilient through the cycles. We have consistently demonstrated our confidence for strong execution, meaningful cost actions, and margin expansion. Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the line for Q and A. Operator00:20:25At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star and one on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. In the interest of time, we do ask that you limit yourself to one question. We'll take our first question from Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:20:44Great. Thank you so much. Chris, Carl, there are three major things that have happened over the last 12 months-18 months, and it's across cost execution, share gains, and ultimately price discipline. A lot of things you spoke about at your analyst day last year. Clearly, the world has changed, as you've been highlighting in your prepared remarks, but could you just give a little bit more detail on how you're thinking about these three major facets as it relates to the current economic environment? Thank you so much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:21:13Yeah. Good morning, Chris. Thanks for the question. I think all of those three elements that we defined in the A plan, if you put the five pillars of the A plan, essentially those are two of the main pillars of the A plan, whether it's the operational excellence or growth, in which we focused on not only share gains but also pricing. I think, as you can see, we've made significant progress through that. What's changed primarily, if you think about where we started a year ago and where we forecasted all four markets, even from an industry forecast, every one of those markets has significantly changed. If you look at mobility or light vehicle, we're down about 2 million builds from where we forecasted. If you look at commercial vehicle, we're at 250,000 builds 255,000 builds. That's lower than replacement demand at 275,000 builds. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:22:13If you look at refinish, you have seen significant changes here in terms of market decline. The amazing thing, or I think what I'm really proud of, what we have been able to accomplish is even in that macro environment, all of those three elements have come and played a significant part in our execution strategy. From a cost standpoint, the margin expansion that you see consistently quarter over quarter and the EBITDA growth and the EPS performance is all coming from really a lot of the proactive cost actions we took. From a share gain standpoint, you can see that across at least three of our four end markets, we continue to expand and gain market well beyond the current market environment. Finally, price mix has been a consistent good story for us. I would say the strategy continues to work. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:23:12The A plan has, I think, been a great structure for us, and it's really providing the resilience in a tough market. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:23:23Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:23:26Welcome, Chris. Operator00:23:28Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mike Leithead with Barclays. Your line is now open. Mike LeitheadDirector at Barclays00:23:34Great. Thanks. Good morning, team. Just a question on refinish. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:23:39Hi, Chris. Mike LeitheadDirector at Barclays00:23:39Good morning, Chris. Question on refinish. You have that slide nine on the macro, which is helpful. I think it shows collision claims, body shop activity down something like high single digits on a two-year stack. I think most investors historically have thought about refinish being a fairly steady industry. I guess, how does your team get comfortable that this is just a macro blip and not something more structural like ADAS or changing consumer insurance behavior? How, if at all, are you pivoting the refinish business to help handle this downturn? Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:24:12Yeah, that's a really good question, Mike. I think if you look at the business, and you even go back six to nine quarters, the business has been low to mid-single digits, claims decline for at least nine quarters. We have been facing, let's call it, a weak macro in refinish for about nine quarters. What's driving that? Parts of it, you could argue, are structural, and parts of it have been, let's call it, destocking that happened through the first half of last year related to a large distributor, LKQ, acquiring FinishMaster. If you went through some of the other changes, for example, we have faced three years-four years of hyperinflation. We see claims have continued to go down, primarily also driven by the cost of repairs and full write-offs. Another aspect of this is insurance premiums. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:25:15If you look from a 2023 to a 2024 basis, they have gone up about 20%. There has been a lot of factors that have driven the decline. If you break it down to consumer confidence here, one of the things you can notice is folks have been pulling collision off their claims, and a lot of it is also related to folks also cashing in claims just based on where the economy is. To your question, how do you get comfortable around 2025 and where the market is going? I think parts of that structural, let's call it, change, you might see some sign of life or light coming on the back half. Insurance claims are starting to flatline. Used car pricing is coming up, which helps. Miles driven is still continuing to grow up. We see a 1% increase. We had some bad weather last year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:26:14Most importantly for me, the way I'm looking at it is the back half of last year, we had, let's call it, a high single-digit decline. We're going to start lapping it in the back half of this year. I do believe there's an opportunity for this to become at least more stable. If you look at our guide, we're still predicting this to be down mid to high single digits. We've moved our forecast from flat to low single digits to mid to high single digits or mid-single digits decline in the back half of the year. It kind of gives you a perspective that we're planning for the continued decline here, and any balance or any stability in the market would be a good news story for us. Mike LeitheadDirector at Barclays00:27:01Thank you so much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:27:02You're welcome. Operator00:27:05Thank you. We'll take our next question from Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Your line is now open. Steve ByrneAnalyst at Bank of America00:27:11Yes, thank you. How much of this 400-basis-point margin expansion target for industrial has already been achieved? Do you have other initiatives that are still playing out this year that will drive that margin? More importantly, are there other initiatives you're considering beyond the A plan? I got the impression from your year-ago investor event on the tour that the productivity initiatives that you're looking at now are just scratching the surface. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:27:51Steve, good morning. It's Carl. I can take that question on industrial. If I look at the margin performance, in 2024, we were pretty close to driving about 300 basis points of an increase in our industrial margin business or our industrial business. I think as we kind of look forward this year, even in a pretty challenging macro, we are planning to probably most likely exceed our 400-basis-points margin target from improvement that we laid out a year ago. I think the team has done a very good job of executing on various cost actions internally. I think we're benefiting from our purchasing team and the continued progress that they're making in managing our raw materials and our buy. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:28:41I think there are selective pricing actions that the team has been getting to execute and have executed over the last 12 months as well. I think we feel very good about the margin trajectory of that business. This year, we'll definitely look at we'll be exceeding the target we laid out back in May of last year. Operator00:29:04Thank you. We'll take our next question from John Roberts with [BMO Capital Markets]. Your line is now open. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:29:12Good morning, John. Operator00:29:19John, please check the mute function on your device. John, your line is open. We will now take our question from Ghansham Panjabi with Baird. Your line is open. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst of Packaging and Materials at Baird00:29:43Hey, guys. Good morning. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:29:45All right. Good morning Ghansham. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst of Packaging and Materials at Baird00:29:47Good morning, Chris. I just want to go back to your comments on auto refinish and just kind of zooming out to the high level. Many of the factors you've touched on as it relates to affordability and collision claims and insurance, etc., are probably going to be quite sticky for a while. I am just curious as to your thoughts as it relates to what could be the catalyst for the industry from a volume standpoint going forward. Just given your expansion into the broader market, the economy segment, etc., for that business, price mix has been very positive for that segment for a very long time. Do you see that trend line sort of changing as you adjust your strategy as well towards the economy? Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:30:28Yeah. Thanks for the question. Yeah, there are elements of that that is sticky. If you think about where, for example, insurance claims and the broader macro, specifically if consumer confidence continues to wane and folks with inflation sticking where it is, you're right, Ghansham. There's a risk that this stays for a bit longer. If you start then breaking it down into our strategy, what are the things that will drive that? One more thing. There are opportunities for that to break. For example, if you see where the backlogs were when you go back to COVID at body shops, they were quite long. We were talking about 12 weeks-16 weeks. That is starting to come down. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:31:16What you can see is with the reduced backlogs, there is an opportunity there for repair costs to also go down over time, which will drive more business back into the body shops. Another element of this is with where the tariffs and where new car pricing is being driven, used car pricing going up also creates an opportunity where you have more folks putting cars into the repair base. The final aspect of this is, as I watch this, the car park continues to increase. Again, I do believe that there are opportunities for this marketplace to improve. We are not counting on that. I think what is important to the second half of your question is how are we addressing this. If you look at our Q1 performance on body shop wins, normally we average about 600 body shop net wins a quarter. We did 900. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:32:13If you look back over the last two to three years, we've done about 2,400 net body shop wins-2,600 net body shop wins. I see the strength of our performance in Q1 as a good sign of market share wins. If you go back over that same period of time, what's essentially led to our overperformance because the markets have been weak over the last couple of years is our continued win ratio. The cool part of this is also then getting into the mainstream and economy business. Obviously, CoverFlex helped us with this. Our market share there is significantly lower than where we are in the premium. As you know, in the premium, we lead. Axalta is the leader in refinish. We have over 40% market share. In mainstream and economy, this is somewhere between 9%-11%. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:33:07We have a great opportunity to grow there. A lot of the wins that we saw in last quarter was also in this space. This does affect us from, if you look at from a margin perspective, because it's lower than what we have in refinish. Net to Axalta, it's accretive. It's a great story for us and certainly the strategy that we're going to continue to execute over the next few quarters. Ghansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst of Packaging and Materials at Baird00:33:38Perfect. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:33:40You're welcome. Operator00:33:41Thank you. We'll take our next question, Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open. Kevin McCarthyPartner at Vertical Research Partners00:33:49Good morning, all. Chris, I appreciate the detail that you provided on slide five regarding the gross tariff impacts and the mitigation actions. I was wondering if you could clarify a few things. Is the intent to fully mitigate the tariff impacts that you quantified? How long might it take for you to accomplish that? I am specifically curious about the bottom action of executing pricing. Have you announced any new pricing actions? If not, what sort of timing are you contemplating for that lever? Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:34:35Yeah. Good morning, Kevin. Good question. Stepping back and looking at the impact of tariffs for us, what I talked about was $25 million in this year or a $50 million year impact over the full year. If you break that down and you think about the impact for Axalta, again, as I said in my remarks, 90% is local for local and 10% of raws, even after going back to the announcement we made at the year-end call, it's pretty much similar is the impact of raw materials that are going across borders. What I want to break it down to is there are probably about four or five levers we can pull before we look at pricing. That's certainly the approach we're taking at speed first. It's primarily if you start looking at it, we have the opportunity to vertically integrate. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:35:30We have, with where volumes are in some of the regions, not so much in China, but certainly in North America, we have the ability to vertically integrate, which is essentially manufacture more in our facilities because we have available capacity. We are working with our supply base to essentially bring in material for local for local. If they have plants or if they can move capacities around, we are working with that. Specific to refinish, we are also working on some strategic inventory action. 90% of what we do is we work through distribution, and our distribution partners have inventory. We are working with them to essentially use up some of the inventory until we determine or have more clarity on where we are going with tariffs. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:36:21Finally, there's lots of opportunity to reformulate, working with our engineering teams to reformulate products of available supply on continent to be able to offset some of the cost. We will look at pricing. Now, to your question on pricing, we have gone out with pricing as we normally do. We implemented about a 7% pricing, for example, in the beginning of the year with refinish in North America, about 4% in Europe. These are pricing actions that we took proactively in some regions because we were already facing the impact of the tariff coming in earlier on, the 10% tariff, the $10 million that we talked about in Q1. Those were actions that we took. Again, as I look at it, it's certainly something that we have in plan to offset, but we're very confident in offsetting the $25 million of tariff impact this year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:37:22It might take us probably a quarter, but we'll certainly get it done this year. Kevin McCarthyPartner at Vertical Research Partners00:37:29Very good. Thanks very much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:37:31You're welcome. Operator00:37:33Thank you. We'll take our next question from Joshua Spector with UBS. Your line is now open. Lucas BeaumontDirector of Equity Research Analyst at UBS00:37:40Good morning. This is Lucas Beaumont for Josh. I just wanted to look at the updated EBITDA phasing for the year. You're now kind of pointing to low single-digit declines in 2Q, but then shifting to 7% growth in the second half. On the one hand there, you've got the new wins coming in in the second half, but on the other, the macro environment is sort of getting weaker with increased headwinds there. Can you just walk us through your assumptions and the setup there and what's giving you confidence on being able to deliver on that stepped-up second-half growth outlook? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:38:15Yeah. Thanks, Lucas. Yeah. If you look at just the first half total EBITDA using the midpoint of our current guide, relative to the full year, that implies about the first half will be about 48% of our total EBITDA. A year ago, we did about 49%. So I think the EBITDA progression year on year is very similar to what we had a year ago. To your point, as we think about some of the wins specifically in Brazil, are beginning to ramp up in the third quarter, which will provide some significant tailwind as we think about that revenue that will be coming in in the second half of the year. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:38:56I think as we look at the rest of the businesses as well, we are planning for overall revenue to be slightly higher as we think about it in the second half, just driven by a little bit more stabilization, what Chris pointed out in refinish as we kind of finish out the year, as well as industrial. We do not forget our industrial business was down about 6% in the first quarter. We believe that trend line will begin to change as we kind of get into the second half. Operator00:39:33Thank you. We'll take our next question from Jeff Zekaris with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Jeff ZekarisAnalyst at JPMorgan00:39:40Thanks very much. Normally, your EBITDA steps up in the second quarter from the first quarter. Normally, it's more refinish-driven, I think. I think you spoke about your refinish prices being flat year over year. Is the idea that it might take some time before the benefits of those price increases make themselves felt? Secondly, can you talk about how the light vehicle market demand felt to you in March and April? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:40:23Yeah. Thanks, Jeff. Yeah. If I look at your right, typically Q1 to Q2, you do see a sequential tick up. You're seeing that, right, with our EBITDA guide. We're going to be up about $15 million of EBITDA at the midpoint. If I look at kind of the businesses as well, we're kind of forecasting to be down about low single-digit percent on a year-over-year basis in the second quarter. That is implying that your second quarter revenue will be running probably $50 million-$70 million higher on a sequential basis. That's still kind of holding true for us embedded in the guide. The one thing that Chris referenced regarding some of the cost impacts from tariffs, we are seeing that a little bit of headwind in the second quarter before we can kind of fully recover that. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:41:17That is when you'll start seeing some of those pricing actions kind of kick in to provide a full quarter coverage. Relative to mobility, I think the one point that we wanted to really highlight with that business, the team has done a really just a phenomenal job of continuing the outperformance in China as well as in Brazil. That is coming in. You can see the margin performance within that business now. We delivered 16.5% EBITDA margin in Q1. As we look forward, even in this challenging macro for autos and what we're forecasting at this point, we expect that mobility business to be running north of 16% for the full year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:42:00Maybe just to add, I think Carl's captured all of it, just at probably a little bit more color on the refinish margin. One of the other things that we're working with is working with our distribution partners who have inventory, obviously, in the system to be able to use up some of that inventory to manage the impact of tariffs. That is how we've also defined our Q2 guide. When I come back again to add to Carl's points, I mean, on the mobility side, certainly the marketplace has been in great shape, not only if we look at our performance in LATAM and China, but we're also seeing signs of life in North America with currently some of the business plan, the family plans that have been announced by the big three. We will wait and see how all this plays out. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:42:52Obviously, there is also the challenge of supply chain to make those cars based on the impact of tariffs on things like raw materials and semiconductors. Once we get past that, you do see an opportunity for quite a tailwind also in that marketplace. Jeff ZekarisAnalyst at JPMorgan00:43:11Thank you. Operator00:43:13Thank you. We'll take our next question from Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Vincent AndrewsManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:43:20Hi. I just wanted to get a little more detail on the free cash flow guidance. It was, I think, a single target before, $500 million. Now it is $475 million-$500 million. What is causing the sort of introduction of the range and the lower end? Just looking at your cash flow statement, can you remind us what is in that other accrued liabilities bucket that was a $106 million drawdown of cash in the quarter? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:43:43Yeah. Thanks, Vincent. Yeah. If I look at the free cash flow guide, we did put a range on that. The one thing you'll notice in the first quarter, we had about $11 million of restructuring expense. A lot of that was cost actions as we were really kind of getting out in front of some of the headwinds we're seeing from the macro environment. I would say the bulk of that impact on free cash flow was really driven by just higher restructuring cash outlays that we're going to have in the rest of the year is what kind of drove the range. Overall, we still very good. It's going to be a very solid and very strong free cash flow year for us. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:44:23As I think about your question about other liabilities, the big change there is the bulk of that relates to our annual bonus payment accrual as well as some additional restructuring charges. Vincent AndrewsManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:44:35Thank you very much. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:44:37Thank you. Operator00:44:38Thank you. We'll take our next question from Aleksey Yefremov from KeyBanc. Your line is now open. Aleksey YefremovManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc00:44:46Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Chris, you already spoke about your refinish value segment. I was hoping to get a little more details on how this segment is doing relative to the broader market. Is this segment benefiting because of its sort of value nature, or is this segment of consumer not doing as well? If you can tell us if you're growing in this segment faster than your refinish business overall, in line, or slower? Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:45:22Sure. Great question. I'll break it into three sections, Aleksey. Good morning. The first one is if you think about it, for us, we got into this with CoverFlex. Obviously, we had UPOL, and we put all this together. What we were driving is to obviously expand our market share from, let's call it that, 10% up. From that perspective, CoverFlex as a whole, we're right on if we look at our 2024 deal metrics, we're right on plan. That's working out well. If you look at the second half of your question, how is the market responding? Obviously, this is the, let's call it this aspect relates to where consumers are a little bit more cautious. This is more value-driven. The consumers here are not so much tied to insurance. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:46:17These are folks that are making choices on repairing their cars outside insurance or just improving the look of their cars. From that perspective, the consumer confidence is waning. You can see, let's call it here, demand is a little bit weaker. Now, to your last question about how are we performing here, I would say if I looked at just Q1 performance in our win ratio, I would say we're performing above the market here. You can also see it a little bit in our performance when I look at it in how our margins are trending because this is growing faster than our premium business because we have such significant market share in our premium business. This is obviously a business that we took on to grow. It is growing faster. That is a great sign. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:47:12I would say confidence, the consumer confidence in this market, though, is probably dropping more than what we're seeing in our premium segment. I hope that provides the color you're looking for. Vincent AndrewsManaging Director at Morgan Stanley00:47:26Great. Thanks, Chris. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:47:28You're welcome. Operator00:47:29Thank you. We'll take our next question from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Caleb BoehnleinAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:47:36Hey, good morning. This is Caleb on for John. For the full-year sales guide, you lowered that despite FX being less of a headwind than it was at the start of the year. The EBITDA guide remained intact due to what you said earlier on the cost savings. Yo`u also kept the $30 million-$40 million of cost savings goal for the year. Maybe could you just talk to how that's exactly netting out or if there's maybe potential upside to the $30 million-$40 million cost savings you're looking for? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:48:07Yeah. I think it's a good question. I think I had two points on that. I do think overall, based off some of the recent cost actions that we've executed, this was really under a different plan than maybe the original transformation initiative of the $30 milllion-$40 million that we were highlighting before. So we're definitely seeing more opportunities on the cost side and that we're executing on. I would say that would be the first point. I think the second point is when we started the year, when we kind of gave a full-year outlook at the time, I think there's always, to some degree, some level of conservatism as well that we had with the original outlook. I would, and that's coming into play now, especially with revenue being a little bit softer than we originally were anticipating. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:48:57I would say it was between both of those items that allowed us to be able to hold serve on our EBITDA range at this point. Caleb BoehnleinAnalyst at BMO Capital Markets00:49:05Okay. Thanks for the color and congrats on the quarter. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:49:08Thank you. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:49:08Thank you. Operator00:49:10Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mike Harrison with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is now open. Mike HarrisonManaging Director and Senior Chemicals Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:49:17Hi. Good morning. Chris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe Research00:49:19Good morning, Mike. Mike HarrisonManaging Director and Senior Chemicals Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:49:20Within the refinish business, you noted that you're seeing customers cashing in claims and with reduced insurance claims, probably a lot of damage or dings and things like that that's not being repaired right now. What does that mean when these damaged vehicles are sold when somebody wants to buy a new car or trade it in for a used car? How much business do you guys have with big resellers like CarMax or AutoNation or other dealership groups? Are you starting to see any growth in that segment of the market for refinish coatings? Thanks. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:50:02Yeah. That's a great question, Mike. I think that's the good news, if there is any good news, is the fact that with new car pricing going up with the possibility of tariffs, what we are seeing is used car pricing going up. As you look at folks essentially turning in cars into a dealership and the dealership looking at taking that repair cost and essentially splitting it up, to your point, and looking at things like CarMax, those folks and what they're doing in that space, which provides us an opportunity here to see a lot more cars coming in at some point. Again, I think it's a question of time that drives stability back in the marketplace because you've seen four to six quarters of, let's call it, significant decline in this marketplace. I do believe that that is a good opportunity for us. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:51:00We have a really strong presence in that marketplace. I do think that is an opportunity for us long term. I think a lot of what is driving the current market is, as I'm sure I've heard from every call, the level of uncertainty. I think once we have some clarity on the uncertainty, the market dynamics will play out over a period of time. It's just a question of time. I think folks are just waiting to make decisions, whether it's the folks like CarMax and the actual repair folks as well as the consumer itself. As I view it, it's just a question of time. Obviously, the longer that the uncertainty plays out, that creates a bit of a risk for us. Beyond that, I do believe that there's an opportunity for stabilization in the marketplace over time. Mike HarrisonManaging Director and Senior Chemicals Analyst at Seaport Research Partners00:52:04Thanks very much. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:52:06You're welcome. Operator00:52:08Thank you. We'll take our next question from Laurent Favre with BNP. Your line is now open. Laurent FavreHead of Chemicals Equity Research at BNP00:52:15Yes. Good morning. A question on capital allocation, please. Can you talk about your priorities in terms of cash deployment between deleveraging given uncertainty versus share buybacks or indeed other M&A as we hear that there are some assets on the block? Thank you. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:52:32Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Capital allocation for us continues and will remain a significant lever for us to drive value creation for our shareholders going forward. As I look at it, our free cash flow in the first quarter is always a seasonal low point. If you think about the next three quarters, we expect to deliver about $500 million of cash flow over that time period. If you look at the capital allocations priority here in the first quarter, we did ramp up our capital expenditures. We almost doubled that from what we did a year ago, which was consistent with our A plan strategy as we continue to see very significant productivity opportunities within our network. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems00:53:15Having said all of that, though, if I look at just our interest expense and where that's running at about $180 million, that's exactly what we pegged to be the interest expense for 2026. Our net leverage is at 2.5x. As we go forward, our plan is really to allocate capital between share repurchases as well as opportunistic M&A. Just given where we are from an overall interest expense and leverage profile, we are going to continue to naturally deleverage as we go forward. It does open up those opportunities to be selective and focused really to sunshare buybacks and opportunistic M&A. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:53:56Maybe just to add a little bit on the look on M&A, as I said in the last quarter, I think this is certainly something that we will continue to look at for the rest of the year. From our perspective, I think there were two things that coming in we were trying to solve for Axalta. One was the financial performance and really building the foundation for us to be able to grow. I think with what we have done with the four out of the five elements of the A plan, we have certainly been able to accomplish that from my perspective, even in the challenging macro. As I think about what is the next evolution of what we have to solve with Axalta, it is really the growth algorithm. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:54:46Anything that provides a growth factor above our current end markets and that really provides value with the operational emphasis that we have for our shareholders and also for us as a company, I think those are the things that we will continue to look at at an opportunistic path considering where the market plays out today. Laurent FavreHead of Chemicals Equity Research at BNP00:55:14Very clear. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:55:15Thank you. You're welcome. Operator00:55:17Thank you. We'll take our next question from David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. David BegleiterManaging Director at Deutsche Bank00:55:23Thank you. Good morning. Chris, mobility margins, they were very nice in the quarter. Where can they go longer term? Can they get to the upper teens or even 20% longer term? Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:55:36It's a good question, David. Good morning. I think we're certainly proud of where that team has done an exceptional job getting the margins. What's interesting, if you really break it out and pull out of it and look at it, just taking a minute here, is the fact that commercial vehicle has a significantly higher margin than our light vehicle business. With the significant decline that we saw in Q1 and actually we're forecasting for the rest of the year, you can see what the teams have been able to do with the light vehicle business to be able to and combined to be able to manage the decline in margin. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:56:21The really, really good news story for me there is being proactive in going after and growing the CTS business, which is really looking at RVs and sports utility vehicles and all the ambulances and special fire trucks and getting all those contracts in place and being proactive to see the possibility of a decline and winning all that business. That has been a great story. I think going to your question on margins, if I look at this as a cyclical low point, there is opportunity for upside here in margin. Obviously, I would call it 16% is a good spot for us to start off with. It is certainly something that we are planning to hold. I look forward to maybe talking about some better opportunities. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:57:14Again, we want to see how we grow in LATAM and also continue to grow in CTS before we can commit to anything here. David BegleiterManaging Director at Deutsche Bank00:57:23Thank you. Operator00:57:25Thank you. We'll take our next question from Mike Sison with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Mike SisonManaging Director at Wells Fargo00:57:31Hey, good morning. Just one quick one on refinish. Industry volumes are going to be down this year. What do you think happens to volumes if we do go into a U.S. recession? Could you maybe give me a quick history lesson? When was the last time industry volumes were positive or collision claims were positive? What was the environment? Was it better interest rates, better consumer sentiment? Just sort of maybe a backdrop of when the markets were better. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:58:03Yeah. I think just looking at data, I would say it's got to be pre-pandemic where volumes have been increasing, to be honest with you. If I look at it, certainly if I look at my tenure here, I would say the last nine quarters, we have continued to see volume declines. Obviously, claims have also declined during that time. If you look at our industry, our business specifically in refinish, though, if you went back even beyond the nine quarters and you went right back to the pandemic and looked at four years or 16 quarters, this business has consistently grown sales and performed financially quarter over quarter better over the last at least 14 quarters that I have data in front of me. I would tell you the performance is really driven. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:59:02It's not, I think there's a perspective that this is pricing, but it's really a multitude of, let's call it, execution philosophies that they've driven, whether it's M&A, whether it's growing body shop, net body shops winning. It's the value proposition that they bring to the customers. I look at the fact that whether it's for color or efficiency, we are the best in the marketplace at both of those things. I can say that because we continue to be the leader in the premium segment. The consistency of essentially reducing the time and the effort and the cost within our body shops is the reason why this team's won over 10,000 body shops if I look at that same period of the last three to four years. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems00:59:59I think that's the strength of our business, even though we have seen volume declines for what I would say is over four to five years. Now, specific to what the future holds for the business, I think, as I said, I do believe that insurance premiums flatlining here as I look at Q1, the fact that used car pricing is starting to go up, and also the availability of capacity and, let's call it, the possibility of repair costs coming down. You can see this also with actions that certain states are taking. They're essentially driving the loss thresholds from 75% up to 85%. I think four states have enacted that. Finally, the fact that we are wrapping high single-digit claims increases or decreases from the last half of back half of last year into this year. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:00:58I do believe that there's an opportunity for this marketplace to stabilize here. I hope that gives you some clarity of what I see the back half of 2025 doing. Mike SisonManaging Director at Wells Fargo01:01:09All right. Great. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:01:11You're welcome. Operator01:01:12Thank you. We'll take our next question from Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Your line is now open. Patrick CunninghamVP and Relationship Associate at Citi01:01:18Hi, good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in here. It seems like you're still forecasting some back half growth in industrials, but overall, housing sentiment, building products is not great with indirect and direct impacts from tariffs, high interest rates. Why does that outlook still hold? How meaningful are these new business wins from a top-line perspective? Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems01:01:41Yeah. Thanks, Patrick. Yeah. As I look at the second half for industrial, we are seeing the market up slightly if I look on a sequential basis. You are talking probably incrementally $10 million-$15 million higher each quarter as I think about the third quarter and the fourth quarter from what the run rate was in the second quarter. Not a significant dollar increase. I will tell you, as we think about the base business, the team in Asia-Pacific continues to outperform. We are seeing that growth is helping offset some of the weakness here you are seeing in North America. I will say Europe has begun to stabilize and is showing some pockets of potential growth as well. I think those are the two areas where we think we have a little bit of higher revenue opportunities in the second half. Carl AndersonSenior VP and CFO at Axalta Coating Systems01:02:32Yeah. Maybe just to give a shout-out to our team in China. I think even looking at our April results, I would say specifically in what we do for coatings, our VoltaTex product that we do provide coatings for both motors and what we provide even for, let's call it, windings or drones. We provide this product that essentially does a great job in connectivity or conductivity as well as reducing heat. And it's just an exceptional product that we've seen some great growth with. So the teams have done an exceptional job continuing to grow there. China has been a good story for us in our industrial business. Mike SisonManaging Director at Wells Fargo01:03:18Great. Thank you. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:03:20Thank you. Operator01:03:21Thank you. We have reached our allotted time for questions. I will now turn the program back over to Chris Villavarayan for any additional or closing remarks. Chris VillavarayanCEO and President at Axalta Coating Systems01:03:31Thank you. Before we close, I really want to emphasize that the A plan is working. We consistently delivered operational excellence and exceeded our financial targets in a challenging macro. Again, I really want to thank Axalta's employees for uniting around a clear set of priorities. While we believe the environment in 2025 is somewhat uncertain, I'm confident that our team will perform at the high level that we have, and we're well-positioned for when the markets turn around. With that, thank you for joining us today. Operator01:04:12This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time and have a wonderful day.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesChris VillavarayanCEO and PresidentColleen LubicVP of Investor RelationsCarl AndersonSenior VP and CFOAnalystsCaleb BoehnleinAnalyst at BMO Capital MarketsPatrick CunninghamVP and Relationship Associate at CitiLaurent FavreHead of Chemicals Equity Research at BNPDavid BegleiterManaging Director at Deutsche BankMike LeitheadDirector at BarclaysKevin McCarthyPartner at Vertical Research PartnersSteve ByrneAnalyst at Bank of AmericaLucas BeaumontDirector of Equity Research Analyst at UBSMike SisonManaging Director at Wells FargoAleksey YefremovManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBancVincent AndrewsManaging Director at Morgan StanleyGhansham PanjabiSenior Research Analyst of Packaging and Materials at BairdMike HarrisonManaging Director and Senior Chemicals Analyst at Seaport Research PartnersJeff ZekarisAnalyst at JPMorganChris ParkinsonManaging Director at Wolfe ResearchPowered by