NASDAQ:APOG Apogee Enterprises Q3 2026 Earnings Report $34.31 +0.99 (+2.97%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$34.16 -0.15 (-0.44%) As of 07:59 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Apogee Enterprises EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.02Consensus EPS $1.03Beat/MissMissed by -$0.01One Year Ago EPS$1.19Apogee Enterprises Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$348.56 millionExpected Revenue$355.29 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$6.73 millionYoY Revenue Growth+2.10%Apogee Enterprises Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2026Date1/7/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, January 7, 2026Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsApogee Enterprises' Q1 2027 earnings is estimated for Friday, June 26, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Apogee Enterprises Q3 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 7, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Negative Sentiment: Company updated fiscal 2026 guidance to approximately $1.39 billion in net sales and adjusted diluted EPS of $3.40–$3.50, which incorporates an estimated $0.30 EPS tariff headwind. Positive Sentiment: Apogee expanded Project Fortify Phase Two, expecting ~$28–$29 million in pre-tax charges to deliver approx. $25–$26 million of annual pre-tax cost savings, with about $10 million of benefit targeted for fiscal 2027. Positive Sentiment: The UW Solutions acquisition is performing as planned—contributing $18.4 million of inorganic sales this quarter and on track for ~$100 million in fiscal 2026 sales at ~20% adjusted EBITDA margin—providing new substrate/coating capabilities and growth runway. Negative Sentiment: Sharp aluminum cost inflation (up ~13% Q2→Q3 and >50% year-over-year) and competitive pricing pressure are compressing volumes and margins in Metals and Glass, a dynamic the company expects to continue into Q4 and into fiscal 2027. Positive Sentiment: Balance sheet remains healthy with consolidated leverage ~1.4x, no near-term debt maturities, and available capital for M&A, though year-to-date operating cash was down versus prior year ($66.6M vs. $95.1M). AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallApogee Enterprises Q3 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Apogee Enterprises' third quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I will now turn the conference over to Jeremy Steffan, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications, to begin. Jeremy, please go ahead. Jeremy SteffanVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at Apogee Enterprises00:00:40Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Apogee Enterprises' fiscal 2026 third quarter earnings call. On the call today are Don Nolan, Apogee's Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Augdahl, our Interim Chief Financial Officer. During this call, the team will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Definitions of these measures and a reconciliation to the nearest GAAP measures are provided in the earnings release and slide deck, which are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. As a reminder, today's call will contain forward-looking statements. These reflect management's expectations based on currently available information. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed today. More information about factors that could affect Apogee's business and financial results can be found in our press release and in the company's SEC filings. With that, I'll turn the call over to Don. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:01:37Thanks, Jeremy, and good morning, everyone. We're glad you could join us for our third quarter earnings call. Before I begin my prepared remarks, I want to acknowledge an announcement made earlier today. Matt Osberg has informed us of his decision to leave the company to pursue an opportunity elsewhere. I want to thank Matt for his many contributions over the past three years and wish him continued success in the future. Stepping in as the interim CFO is our Chief Accounting Officer, Mark Augdahl, who has been at Apogee for over 25 years. I look forward to partnering with him as we begin our search for the company's next CFO. Next, I'd like to start by saying it's a real privilege to have the opportunity to lead the company through this period of transition. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:02:20While I've served on Apogee's board since 2013, the past two months as CEO have given me a deeper perspective, strengthening my confidence in Apogee's future, and I'd like to share a few observations. First, our customers consistently tell us how much they value the quality and reliability of our products and services. That feedback is energizing and underscores a core principle of mine: companies that delight their customers win in the market. Apogee has built that reputation over 76 years and continues to raise the bar. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:02:52Second, across Apogee, we have exceptional talent: individuals who are passionate, resilient, and relentlessly focused on exceeding the expectations of customers. Their ability to deliver tremendous value, especially in this dynamic environment, reinforces the strength of this company and gives me tremendous confidence in our future, and third, the Apogee Management System continues to drive value across our manufacturing footprint. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:03:20The returns on our AMS investments are fueling margin benefits and reinforcing the operational excellence that helps define our organization. I'd also like to highlight the UW Solutions acquisition, which celebrated its one-year anniversary this quarter. We're pleased with the initial results, and the team is on track to deliver our fiscal 2026 expectations of $100 million in net sales and approximately 20% adjusted EBITDA margin. UW Solutions expands our market and geographical reach, adding substrate capabilities and coating technology, and provides a platform for potential growth in fiscal 2027 and beyond. Now, turning to our results for the quarter, I am pleased with the team's ability to deliver in a dynamic environment. This performance reflects not only discipline and execution but also the strength of our culture and the dedication of our people. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:04:16It reinforces my confidence in the strategies put in place and our ability to adapt and win in dynamic markets. Although macroeconomic factors remain challenging, Apogee is well-positioned because of three key strengths: operational excellence through AMS, driving continued productivity improvements across our manufacturing footprint, our proven cost-out execution with Fortify Phase 1, Phase 1, and a strong balance sheet and healthy cash generation, giving us flexibility for future M&A. These fundamentals, combined with the talent of our team, enable us to navigate near-term challenges and capitalize on long-term opportunities. In the near term, our priorities remain clear and unchanged. First, become the economic leader in our target markets with differentiated product and service offerings and competitive cost structures. Number two, managing our portfolio through pursuing our creative M&A opportunities aligned with our strategic and financial objectives. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:05:21And number three, strengthening our core by driving more efficient operations, greater scalability, and enabling sustained profitable growth. I'm confident in our strategy and excited about what's ahead. Together, we have the opportunity to create significant value for all stakeholders. With that, I'll turn it over to Mark. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:05:42Thanks, Don, and good morning, everyone. First, I'll begin with the review of the results of the third quarter, and then follow with commentary on our outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2026 and some early insights into fiscal 2027. Beginning with our consolidated results, net sales increased 2.1% to $348.6 million, primarily driven by $18.4 million in inorganic sales from the acquisition of UW Solutions, as well as favorable product mix. This was partially offset by lower volume, primarily in metals. Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased slightly to 13.2%. The year-over-year change was primarily driven by lower volume and price and higher aluminum and health insurance costs. These were partially offset by lower incentive compensation expense and benefits from the cost savings related to Fortify Phase 2. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:06:45Adjusted diluted EPS was $1.02, in line with our expectations, and down year-over-year, primarily driven by higher amortization and interest expense as a result of the UW Solutions acquisition. Turning to our segment results, metals net sales declined primarily due to lower volume, partially offset by favorable price and product mix. Adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 13.5%, primarily driven by increased productivity, including cost savings from Fortify Phase Two, lower incentive compensation expense, and favorable price and product mix. These were partially offset by lower volume. Our services segment delivered its seventh consecutive quarter of year-over-year net sales growth, primarily due to increased volume. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 9.7%, mostly driven by lower incentive compensation expense, partially offset by unfavorable project mix. Additionally, backlog for services ended the quarter at $775 million, down slightly from Q2, but up over 4% compared to Q3 of last year. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:08:08Glass net sales increased slightly to approximately $71 million, primarily driven by increased volume and favorable mix, partially offset by lower price driven by end-market demand softness. Adjusted EBITDA margin moderated from last year, primarily due to lower price and higher material costs, partially offset by higher volume, favorable product mix, and lower incentive compensation expense. Performance Services net sales increased, driven by the inorganic sales contribution from the acquisition of UW Solutions and organic growth, primarily from price. Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased, primarily driven by the dilutive impact of lower adjusted EBITDA margin from the UW Solutions and unfavorable productivity, partially offset by favorable product mix and price. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet. For the Q3, net cash provided by operating activities was $29.3 million, down slightly from $31 million in the third quarter of prior year. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:09:25On a year-to-date basis, cash from operating activities was $66.6 million, compared to $95.1 million a year ago due to lower operating cash flow in the Q1. Our balance sheet remains strong, with a consolidated leverage ratio of 1.4x, no near-term debt maturities, and significant capital available for future deployment. Turning now to our outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2026, we are updating our estimates for both net sales and adjusted diluted EPS. We now expect net sales to be approximately $1.39 billion and adjusted diluted EPS in the range of $3.40-$3.50. This outlook includes an updated estimate of the EPS impact from tariffs of approximately $0.30. Our updated outlook assumes an adjusted effective tax rate of approximately 27% and capital expenditures between $25 million and $30 million. The current macroeconomic backdrop remains challenging. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:10:42In both our Metals and Glass segments, competitive market dynamics continue to put a significant pressure on pricing and volume. Additionally, in our Metals segment, average aluminum prices in the third quarter rose approximately 13% compared to the second quarter and are up over 50% compared to the third quarter of last year. These factors are driving volume pressure and margin compression, and we anticipate this dynamic will continue to impact us through the fourth quarter and, to some extent, into fiscal 2027. Additionally, as we look ahead to fiscal 2027, we expect cost headwinds from the normalization of incentive compensation expense and higher health insurance costs. In order to offset a portion of the anticipated impact of these headwinds, we have expanded the scope of Project Fortify Phase 2 to include further restructuring actions, primarily in Metals and corporate. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:11:46Based on the expected benefits of the expanded scope of Fortify Phase 2, we now expect to incur a total of approximately $28-$29 million in pre-tax charges and deliver an estimated annual pre-tax cost savings of approximately $25-$26 million, with approximately $10 million of that benefit to be realized in fiscal 2027. In addition, we expect the majority of the tariff impact of fiscal 2026 not to repeat and to be a benefit to fiscal 2027. Although we are in the initial stages of our planning for fiscal 2027, we are taking proactive measures, such as the expansion of Fortify Phase 2, to manage near-term headwinds as well as position us to be more agile and better equipped to capitalize on growth opportunities as market conditions stabilize. Finally, I want to recognize and thank our employees for their resilience and dedication. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:12:51Their commitment is critical to our success. By executing with rigor today, we are laying the groundwork for long-term value creation opportunities for our shareholders. With that, we will now open the call to questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:13:10Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question at this time, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Now, first question coming from Brent Thielman with D.A. Davidson. Your line is now open. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:13:32Thanks. Good morning. Don, I mean, a lot has changed here since the last earnings call. And maybe if you could just start off and talk about what the board is looking for in terms of new leadership on a go-forward basis. And is there any different view on the strategic direction of the company going forward versus what's been vocalized as the strategy before, particularly sort of scaling the performance services business? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:14:05Hi, Brent. Yeah, thanks for that question. No, no change in strategy. We remain focused on the existing strategies, the strategies that, quite frankly, were working before my tenure, focused on becoming the economic leader in our target market, continuing to manage the portfolio, and pursuing accretive M&A opportunities in faster-growing markets, UW Solutions being the best example. And then strengthening our core, driving more efficient operations, greater scalability, and enabling sustained profitable growth. So no, there's no change whatsoever. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:14:47Okay. And sorry, Don, in terms of what you're looking for in terms of new leadership as you're out with the CEO search here? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:14:56Yeah. So look, we started our process, and clearly, we're looking for someone who has deep growth and operational excellence experience, M&A integration, the things that are called out in our strategy. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:15:16All right. And then, I mean, in terms of the updated outlook, it looks to me like the big impact there is just this continued inflation in aluminum that we continue to see post-quarter, I assume, is predominantly impacting the metals. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:15:35Yeah. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:15:35Brent, if I could. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:15:36Yeah, please. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:15:39I'll let you follow up with the rest of your question. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:15:44No, just in regard to the outlook and the updated outlook, it looks like it's primarily the Metals segment, I presume. If that's the case, it looks like you're sort of embedding a more severe impact to margins in Metals in the fourth quarter relative to what you saw in the third quarter. Is that the right way to think about this? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:16:05Yeah, Brent. Good observations. So yeah, I would say both in Metals and in Glass, the market dynamics continue to be very. They continue to evolve. So yeah, back on Metals, the primary issue there is the aluminum prices continue to increase. In our prepared comments, we commented that between Q2 and Q3, aluminum prices went up 13%. And then even here in December, we're seeing continued increases in that price. So the margin pressures continue to build. And then maybe a little bit in Glass as well. We have about a 60-day window on what we can see for orders at the end of Q3, or excuse me, at the end of Q2. We thought that we would kind of maintain that level, but we're seeing slightly declines there. So we're, again, seeing a little bit of an impact both on volume and price going into the fourth quarter. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:17:09I would tell you, though, that we remain focused on managing our margin dollars, so to the best of our abilities, we're controlling costs and implementing things that we can control those costs, Fortify Phase 2 expansion, as an example. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:17:33I guess, notwithstanding some of these short-term pressures that you are seeing in the market, are the long-term kind of EBITDA margin targets that you've laid out before still sort of appropriate to think about? Again, you know there's going to be some nuances in the near term for some of the things you called out. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:17:52That's exactly right, Brent. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:17:56Okay. Thank you. I'll pass it on. Operator00:18:01Thank you. Now, our next question in queue coming from the line of Jon Braatz with KCCA. Your line is now open. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:18:16Hello? Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:18:18Hi, Jon. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:18:19Oh, I'm sorry. I missed my cue. Don, I just want to go back to sort of the strategic direction of the company and how much emphasis you might place on M&A activity. Because let's face it, in the past, it hasn't turned out to. M&A activity hasn't been that positive for Apogee. And it seems to me the focus should be almost exclusively on running the business as profitably as possible and returning cash flow to shareholders in terms of dividends and share repurchases. So I want to get a better sense from you as to where you see M&A going forward. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:19:10Look, our pipeline for M&A is robust. It's very active right now. We have spent a great deal of time and energy building all the processes and systems in the company to continue to drive M&A. UW Solutions was a great acquisition for us. 12 months in, we have achieved or beat all of our objectives. It's a business that's growing robustly. Our Performance Services business, that segment, was able to successfully integrate the UW Solutions, almost doubling the size of the business, and deliver organic growth at the same time. We've demonstrated that we can execute. We can select a great acquisition that works in our strategy. We have the discipline to execute on the integration. We continue to work our pipeline aggressively. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:20:17Okay. Another question. In the fourth quarter of last year, when Project Fortify was announced, you mentioned $26 million in costs that will be incurred and savings of $13-$15 million. And this quarter, you said costs of $28-$29 million, a little bit higher, but savings of $25-$26 million. What's the difference between the fourth quarter savings and what you said here in the first quarter? Am I missing something there? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:20:52Nope. Jon, I'll take that. Yes, the ranges that you provided were accurate. The increases in costs are primarily headcount-based, and holding our cost structure tight, we did incur some footprint-related matters in the fourth quarter here, which was the primary cost in the fourth quarter, but again, we're focusing on things that will drive cost savings going forward. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:21:30So the cost savings, $13-$15 to $25-$26, I'm correct with that number? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:21:38Yep. That's what we're showing. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:21:41Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. Operator00:21:47Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Gownshihan Sriharan with Singular Research. Your line is now open. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:21:54Good morning. Can you hear me? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:21:57Yes. Loud and clear. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:21:58Thank you. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is on the metals and glass. I know you guys have mentioned some pricing discipline with keeping the plants efficiently utilized. How are you thinking about the bid approval process threshold and hurdle margins changing over the six months? I mean, have you walked away from any large projects or packages that might leave kind of under-absorption risk in early fiscal 2027? And are you willing to? When will you start considering the flexibility around the pricing discipline? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:22:38I'll start off and then turn it over to Mark, but look, glass is a highly competitive market. But the glass team has been working hard to maximize EBITDA dollar contribution while protecting their premium margins. They've faced significant challenges on volume and price, true. But look, the business is in a much stronger position than during the last downturn. Even with the market challenges that we face today, glass is still operating in the teens EBITDA margin versus mid-single digit in the last downturn, so yes, we're going to continue to focus on maximizing EBITDA dollar contribution as the market shifts. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:23:21Don, I don't really have anything to add. I think you covered off what I thought was important, which is we implemented some really nice and solid pricing strategies as we were initiating our current strategy, and we intend to continue on that process. Of course, volume matters, so we need to look at every project and every opportunity when they come across. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:23:53The other thing I would mention is, as was pointed out, Fortify Phase 1, Fortify Phase 2, we continue to actively manage our cost structure to mitigate these short-term headwinds. So in addition to making sure that we hold onto our margins and manage the top line appropriately, we're also managing our cost structure. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:24:17Gotcha. And are you seeing any noticeable pricing differences between, say, your strategic repeat customers as opposed to your more transactional work? Has that gap kind of widened or narrowed since we spoke in Q2? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:37No, I don't think so. I think, look, we're seeing higher volume of projects in glass, for sure. And on average, they're a little smaller than what we've seen in the past. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:49Yep. Primarily. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:50Oh, I'm. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:51It's a very challenging environment. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:52There you go. Thank you. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:53Yes. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:24:56On the Performance Services side, can you kind of unpack on how much of that growth is coming from the high-margin SKUs versus kind of mid-tier offerings? And with the current mix, would you adjust your long-term margin aspirations for that segment? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:25:16So we've mentioned this in past quarters. We took some share over the past few quarters in our distribution business. So these are. Think of it as retail shelf space. Okay? So we've expanded our shelf space. A couple of years ago, we lost some, and we gained that back. And that is a very attractive business. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:25:41Gotcha. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:25:42The other area that I might mention is, look, the UW Solutions, one of the reasons why we thought this was such an attractive acquisition is because it allowed us to enter a part of the flooring market that serves warehouses and manufacturing facilities. So this is a growth area and has demonstrated some nice organic growth for us in our highest performing segment. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:26:09Yeah. Highest margin segment. Yeah. I'll make this my last question. I know you've highlighted the lower incentive compensation as a tailwind to margin across several segments this quarter. I think you've alluded that there will be some kind of normalization in the incentive compensation. But how should we think about, from a sustainability and talent standpoint, are you structurally resetting some of that incentive programs, or is this paying below at a tough year? As you look at the labor market in your key regions, are you comfortable with the overall comp structure remains competitive enough to execute Project Fortify and your growth plans? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:27:03Yeah. We believe our structure is fine. We just entered into a more difficult year, and we're not meeting our targets. So our compensation will be less this year, but we expect that to normalize into the future. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:27:25Thank you. That's all I have. Thank you, guys. Operator00:27:28Thank you. Our next question coming from Julio Romero with Sidoti. Your line is now open. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:27:37Thanks. Hey, good morning. Don, could you help us think about how you view the company's growth trajectory and opportunity set? And then also, how does the next leg of growth, in your view, for the company translate to any change in ROIC hurdles or metrics? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:27:59First of all, the strategy that we're focused on hasn't changed. We remain focused on becoming the economic leader in the target markets we serve, managing our portfolio, and strengthening the core. No change, Julio, in how we think about where we're going to grow and how. The addition of UW Solutions certainly opened up new markets, new products that will enable us to grow faster. As part of our managing portfolio strategy, we continue to look for new opportunities along those lines. Looking for acquisitions that will enable faster growth and at higher margins. We're going to talk a lot more about that on our next call when we talk about fiscal year 2027. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:28:49Okay. Understood. I guess maybe can you dig into a little bit into the priorities that are more near-term in nature? Obviously, you have Project Fortify expansion. But any other kind of quicker turn wins or low-hanging fruit that you're looking to kind of achieve early on? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:29:11Delivering the results, delivering our results will be critical. We're focused on delivering the year right now. I mean, that's front and center. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:29:22Julia, I would just add, yes, Project Fortify Phase 2 is probably the most important. But I would suggest that we're amping up AMS again as we think about how we're trying to drive cost structure down. Our best tool to do that is through the Apogee Management System. So that's going to be our tool to get there. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:29:48Yeah. I mean, to Frank, Julio, so AMS, I mean, that's one of my observations for my first 60 days. The operational excellence and productivity improvements that we've been able to deliver through AMS are truly extraordinary, especially in the glass business. We're seeing strength across the board: safety, quality, on-time delivery, you name it. And by the way, that was the birthplace of AMS. So they're leading the way, and it shows what we can do with the rest of the company. So it'll be a key focus for us. And the last thing is, I think I mentioned a couple of times, but creative M&A, it's front and center too. We have a robust pipeline, and we're active. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:30:34Got it. And I guess just going back to my first question a little bit more, and it ties into your comment about robust M&A pipeline. Do you see any kind of viewpoint difference with regards to yourself versus the last management team with regards to kind of IRR hurdles or rate of return hurdles when you look at that M&A and kind of moving forward with that? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:31:08No, I don't think any difference in the financial analysis. But I would say move faster. And we move with discipline, of course, but also faster. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:31:25Got it. That's helpful. I appreciate it. And then the last one for me would just be on you gave some preliminary commentary on your fiscal 2027. You talked about you don't expect the tariff impact to reoccur in fiscal 2027. But any other kind of high-level thoughts with regards to how you see the possibility of revenue or profit growth in 2027? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:31:49Yeah. I guess I'll reiterate. We're kind of in the process right now of doing our AOPs. We highlighted what I viewed are the key tailwinds and headwinds that we have in front of us, tailwinds being Project Fortify Phase 2 and the tariffs not repeating. And the headwinds, of course, we've covered now several times with normalization of incentive comp. And certainly, aluminum prices will continue to be monitored as we go through the fourth quarter and as we scenario plan our AOP. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:32:26Helpful. Best of luck, guys. Thanks. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:32:28Thank you. Operator00:32:31Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Don Nolan for any closing comments. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:32:38Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to sharing the fourth quarter and full-year results in April along with our fiscal 2027 outlook. I hope you have a great week. Thanks. Operator00:32:52Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJeremy SteffanVP of Investor Relations and Corporate CommunicationsMark AugdahlInterim CFODon NolanCEOAnalystsGowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular ResearchJulio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at SidotiBrent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. DavidsonJon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCAPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckEarnings Release(8-K)Quarterly Report(10-Q) Apogee Enterprises Earnings HeadlinesApogee Enterprises, Inc. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Apogee Enterprises' third quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I will now turn the conference over to Jeremy Steffan, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications, to begin. Jeremy, please go ahead. Jeremy SteffanVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at Apogee Enterprises00:00:40Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Apogee Enterprises' fiscal 2026 third quarter earnings call. On the call today are Don Nolan, Apogee's Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Augdahl, our Interim Chief Financial Officer. During this call, the team will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Definitions of these measures and a reconciliation to the nearest GAAP measures are provided in the earnings release and slide deck, which are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. As a reminder, today's call will contain forward-looking statements. These reflect management's expectations based on currently available information. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed today. More information about factors that could affect Apogee's business and financial results can be found in our press release and in the company's SEC filings. With that, I'll turn the call over to Don. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:01:37Thanks, Jeremy, and good morning, everyone. We're glad you could join us for our third quarter earnings call. Before I begin my prepared remarks, I want to acknowledge an announcement made earlier today. Matt Osberg has informed us of his decision to leave the company to pursue an opportunity elsewhere. I want to thank Matt for his many contributions over the past three years and wish him continued success in the future. Stepping in as the interim CFO is our Chief Accounting Officer, Mark Augdahl, who has been at Apogee for over 25 years. I look forward to partnering with him as we begin our search for the company's next CFO. Next, I'd like to start by saying it's a real privilege to have the opportunity to lead the company through this period of transition. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:02:20While I've served on Apogee's board since 2013, the past two months as CEO have given me a deeper perspective, strengthening my confidence in Apogee's future, and I'd like to share a few observations. First, our customers consistently tell us how much they value the quality and reliability of our products and services. That feedback is energizing and underscores a core principle of mine: companies that delight their customers win in the market. Apogee has built that reputation over 76 years and continues to raise the bar. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:02:52Second, across Apogee, we have exceptional talent: individuals who are passionate, resilient, and relentlessly focused on exceeding the expectations of customers. Their ability to deliver tremendous value, especially in this dynamic environment, reinforces the strength of this company and gives me tremendous confidence in our future, and third, the Apogee Management System continues to drive value across our manufacturing footprint. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:03:20The returns on our AMS investments are fueling margin benefits and reinforcing the operational excellence that helps define our organization. I'd also like to highlight the UW Solutions acquisition, which celebrated its one-year anniversary this quarter. We're pleased with the initial results, and the team is on track to deliver our fiscal 2026 expectations of $100 million in net sales and approximately 20% adjusted EBITDA margin. UW Solutions expands our market and geographical reach, adding substrate capabilities and coating technology, and provides a platform for potential growth in fiscal 2027 and beyond. Now, turning to our results for the quarter, I am pleased with the team's ability to deliver in a dynamic environment. This performance reflects not only discipline and execution but also the strength of our culture and the dedication of our people. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:04:16It reinforces my confidence in the strategies put in place and our ability to adapt and win in dynamic markets. Although macroeconomic factors remain challenging, Apogee is well-positioned because of three key strengths: operational excellence through AMS, driving continued productivity improvements across our manufacturing footprint, our proven cost-out execution with Fortify Phase 1, Phase 1, and a strong balance sheet and healthy cash generation, giving us flexibility for future M&A. These fundamentals, combined with the talent of our team, enable us to navigate near-term challenges and capitalize on long-term opportunities. In the near term, our priorities remain clear and unchanged. First, become the economic leader in our target markets with differentiated product and service offerings and competitive cost structures. Number two, managing our portfolio through pursuing our creative M&A opportunities aligned with our strategic and financial objectives. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:05:21And number three, strengthening our core by driving more efficient operations, greater scalability, and enabling sustained profitable growth. I'm confident in our strategy and excited about what's ahead. Together, we have the opportunity to create significant value for all stakeholders. With that, I'll turn it over to Mark. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:05:42Thanks, Don, and good morning, everyone. First, I'll begin with the review of the results of the third quarter, and then follow with commentary on our outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2026 and some early insights into fiscal 2027. Beginning with our consolidated results, net sales increased 2.1% to $348.6 million, primarily driven by $18.4 million in inorganic sales from the acquisition of UW Solutions, as well as favorable product mix. This was partially offset by lower volume, primarily in metals. Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased slightly to 13.2%. The year-over-year change was primarily driven by lower volume and price and higher aluminum and health insurance costs. These were partially offset by lower incentive compensation expense and benefits from the cost savings related to Fortify Phase 2. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:06:45Adjusted diluted EPS was $1.02, in line with our expectations, and down year-over-year, primarily driven by higher amortization and interest expense as a result of the UW Solutions acquisition. Turning to our segment results, metals net sales declined primarily due to lower volume, partially offset by favorable price and product mix. Adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 13.5%, primarily driven by increased productivity, including cost savings from Fortify Phase Two, lower incentive compensation expense, and favorable price and product mix. These were partially offset by lower volume. Our services segment delivered its seventh consecutive quarter of year-over-year net sales growth, primarily due to increased volume. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 9.7%, mostly driven by lower incentive compensation expense, partially offset by unfavorable project mix. Additionally, backlog for services ended the quarter at $775 million, down slightly from Q2, but up over 4% compared to Q3 of last year. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:08:08Glass net sales increased slightly to approximately $71 million, primarily driven by increased volume and favorable mix, partially offset by lower price driven by end-market demand softness. Adjusted EBITDA margin moderated from last year, primarily due to lower price and higher material costs, partially offset by higher volume, favorable product mix, and lower incentive compensation expense. Performance Services net sales increased, driven by the inorganic sales contribution from the acquisition of UW Solutions and organic growth, primarily from price. Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased, primarily driven by the dilutive impact of lower adjusted EBITDA margin from the UW Solutions and unfavorable productivity, partially offset by favorable product mix and price. Turning to cash flow and the balance sheet. For the Q3, net cash provided by operating activities was $29.3 million, down slightly from $31 million in the third quarter of prior year. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:09:25On a year-to-date basis, cash from operating activities was $66.6 million, compared to $95.1 million a year ago due to lower operating cash flow in the Q1. Our balance sheet remains strong, with a consolidated leverage ratio of 1.4x, no near-term debt maturities, and significant capital available for future deployment. Turning now to our outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2026, we are updating our estimates for both net sales and adjusted diluted EPS. We now expect net sales to be approximately $1.39 billion and adjusted diluted EPS in the range of $3.40-$3.50. This outlook includes an updated estimate of the EPS impact from tariffs of approximately $0.30. Our updated outlook assumes an adjusted effective tax rate of approximately 27% and capital expenditures between $25 million and $30 million. The current macroeconomic backdrop remains challenging. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:10:42In both our Metals and Glass segments, competitive market dynamics continue to put a significant pressure on pricing and volume. Additionally, in our Metals segment, average aluminum prices in the third quarter rose approximately 13% compared to the second quarter and are up over 50% compared to the third quarter of last year. These factors are driving volume pressure and margin compression, and we anticipate this dynamic will continue to impact us through the fourth quarter and, to some extent, into fiscal 2027. Additionally, as we look ahead to fiscal 2027, we expect cost headwinds from the normalization of incentive compensation expense and higher health insurance costs. In order to offset a portion of the anticipated impact of these headwinds, we have expanded the scope of Project Fortify Phase 2 to include further restructuring actions, primarily in Metals and corporate. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:11:46Based on the expected benefits of the expanded scope of Fortify Phase 2, we now expect to incur a total of approximately $28-$29 million in pre-tax charges and deliver an estimated annual pre-tax cost savings of approximately $25-$26 million, with approximately $10 million of that benefit to be realized in fiscal 2027. In addition, we expect the majority of the tariff impact of fiscal 2026 not to repeat and to be a benefit to fiscal 2027. Although we are in the initial stages of our planning for fiscal 2027, we are taking proactive measures, such as the expansion of Fortify Phase 2, to manage near-term headwinds as well as position us to be more agile and better equipped to capitalize on growth opportunities as market conditions stabilize. Finally, I want to recognize and thank our employees for their resilience and dedication. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:12:51Their commitment is critical to our success. By executing with rigor today, we are laying the groundwork for long-term value creation opportunities for our shareholders. With that, we will now open the call to questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:13:10Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question at this time, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Now, first question coming from Brent Thielman with D.A. Davidson. Your line is now open. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:13:32Thanks. Good morning. Don, I mean, a lot has changed here since the last earnings call. And maybe if you could just start off and talk about what the board is looking for in terms of new leadership on a go-forward basis. And is there any different view on the strategic direction of the company going forward versus what's been vocalized as the strategy before, particularly sort of scaling the performance services business? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:14:05Hi, Brent. Yeah, thanks for that question. No, no change in strategy. We remain focused on the existing strategies, the strategies that, quite frankly, were working before my tenure, focused on becoming the economic leader in our target market, continuing to manage the portfolio, and pursuing accretive M&A opportunities in faster-growing markets, UW Solutions being the best example. And then strengthening our core, driving more efficient operations, greater scalability, and enabling sustained profitable growth. So no, there's no change whatsoever. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:14:47Okay. And sorry, Don, in terms of what you're looking for in terms of new leadership as you're out with the CEO search here? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:14:56Yeah. So look, we started our process, and clearly, we're looking for someone who has deep growth and operational excellence experience, M&A integration, the things that are called out in our strategy. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:15:16All right. And then, I mean, in terms of the updated outlook, it looks to me like the big impact there is just this continued inflation in aluminum that we continue to see post-quarter, I assume, is predominantly impacting the metals. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:15:35Yeah. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:15:35Brent, if I could. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:15:36Yeah, please. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:15:39I'll let you follow up with the rest of your question. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:15:44No, just in regard to the outlook and the updated outlook, it looks like it's primarily the Metals segment, I presume. If that's the case, it looks like you're sort of embedding a more severe impact to margins in Metals in the fourth quarter relative to what you saw in the third quarter. Is that the right way to think about this? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:16:05Yeah, Brent. Good observations. So yeah, I would say both in Metals and in Glass, the market dynamics continue to be very. They continue to evolve. So yeah, back on Metals, the primary issue there is the aluminum prices continue to increase. In our prepared comments, we commented that between Q2 and Q3, aluminum prices went up 13%. And then even here in December, we're seeing continued increases in that price. So the margin pressures continue to build. And then maybe a little bit in Glass as well. We have about a 60-day window on what we can see for orders at the end of Q3, or excuse me, at the end of Q2. We thought that we would kind of maintain that level, but we're seeing slightly declines there. So we're, again, seeing a little bit of an impact both on volume and price going into the fourth quarter. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:17:09I would tell you, though, that we remain focused on managing our margin dollars, so to the best of our abilities, we're controlling costs and implementing things that we can control those costs, Fortify Phase 2 expansion, as an example. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:17:33I guess, notwithstanding some of these short-term pressures that you are seeing in the market, are the long-term kind of EBITDA margin targets that you've laid out before still sort of appropriate to think about? Again, you know there's going to be some nuances in the near term for some of the things you called out. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:17:52That's exactly right, Brent. Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:17:56Okay. Thank you. I'll pass it on. Operator00:18:01Thank you. Now, our next question in queue coming from the line of Jon Braatz with KCCA. Your line is now open. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:18:16Hello? Brent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:18:18Hi, Jon. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:18:19Oh, I'm sorry. I missed my cue. Don, I just want to go back to sort of the strategic direction of the company and how much emphasis you might place on M&A activity. Because let's face it, in the past, it hasn't turned out to. M&A activity hasn't been that positive for Apogee. And it seems to me the focus should be almost exclusively on running the business as profitably as possible and returning cash flow to shareholders in terms of dividends and share repurchases. So I want to get a better sense from you as to where you see M&A going forward. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:19:10Look, our pipeline for M&A is robust. It's very active right now. We have spent a great deal of time and energy building all the processes and systems in the company to continue to drive M&A. UW Solutions was a great acquisition for us. 12 months in, we have achieved or beat all of our objectives. It's a business that's growing robustly. Our Performance Services business, that segment, was able to successfully integrate the UW Solutions, almost doubling the size of the business, and deliver organic growth at the same time. We've demonstrated that we can execute. We can select a great acquisition that works in our strategy. We have the discipline to execute on the integration. We continue to work our pipeline aggressively. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:20:17Okay. Another question. In the fourth quarter of last year, when Project Fortify was announced, you mentioned $26 million in costs that will be incurred and savings of $13-$15 million. And this quarter, you said costs of $28-$29 million, a little bit higher, but savings of $25-$26 million. What's the difference between the fourth quarter savings and what you said here in the first quarter? Am I missing something there? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:20:52Nope. Jon, I'll take that. Yes, the ranges that you provided were accurate. The increases in costs are primarily headcount-based, and holding our cost structure tight, we did incur some footprint-related matters in the fourth quarter here, which was the primary cost in the fourth quarter, but again, we're focusing on things that will drive cost savings going forward. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:21:30So the cost savings, $13-$15 to $25-$26, I'm correct with that number? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:21:38Yep. That's what we're showing. Jon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCA00:21:41Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. Operator00:21:47Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Gownshihan Sriharan with Singular Research. Your line is now open. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:21:54Good morning. Can you hear me? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:21:57Yes. Loud and clear. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:21:58Thank you. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is on the metals and glass. I know you guys have mentioned some pricing discipline with keeping the plants efficiently utilized. How are you thinking about the bid approval process threshold and hurdle margins changing over the six months? I mean, have you walked away from any large projects or packages that might leave kind of under-absorption risk in early fiscal 2027? And are you willing to? When will you start considering the flexibility around the pricing discipline? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:22:38I'll start off and then turn it over to Mark, but look, glass is a highly competitive market. But the glass team has been working hard to maximize EBITDA dollar contribution while protecting their premium margins. They've faced significant challenges on volume and price, true. But look, the business is in a much stronger position than during the last downturn. Even with the market challenges that we face today, glass is still operating in the teens EBITDA margin versus mid-single digit in the last downturn, so yes, we're going to continue to focus on maximizing EBITDA dollar contribution as the market shifts. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:23:21Don, I don't really have anything to add. I think you covered off what I thought was important, which is we implemented some really nice and solid pricing strategies as we were initiating our current strategy, and we intend to continue on that process. Of course, volume matters, so we need to look at every project and every opportunity when they come across. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:23:53The other thing I would mention is, as was pointed out, Fortify Phase 1, Fortify Phase 2, we continue to actively manage our cost structure to mitigate these short-term headwinds. So in addition to making sure that we hold onto our margins and manage the top line appropriately, we're also managing our cost structure. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:24:17Gotcha. And are you seeing any noticeable pricing differences between, say, your strategic repeat customers as opposed to your more transactional work? Has that gap kind of widened or narrowed since we spoke in Q2? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:37No, I don't think so. I think, look, we're seeing higher volume of projects in glass, for sure. And on average, they're a little smaller than what we've seen in the past. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:49Yep. Primarily. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:50Oh, I'm. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:51It's a very challenging environment. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:52There you go. Thank you. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:24:53Yes. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:24:56On the Performance Services side, can you kind of unpack on how much of that growth is coming from the high-margin SKUs versus kind of mid-tier offerings? And with the current mix, would you adjust your long-term margin aspirations for that segment? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:25:16So we've mentioned this in past quarters. We took some share over the past few quarters in our distribution business. So these are. Think of it as retail shelf space. Okay? So we've expanded our shelf space. A couple of years ago, we lost some, and we gained that back. And that is a very attractive business. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:25:41Gotcha. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:25:42The other area that I might mention is, look, the UW Solutions, one of the reasons why we thought this was such an attractive acquisition is because it allowed us to enter a part of the flooring market that serves warehouses and manufacturing facilities. So this is a growth area and has demonstrated some nice organic growth for us in our highest performing segment. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:26:09Yeah. Highest margin segment. Yeah. I'll make this my last question. I know you've highlighted the lower incentive compensation as a tailwind to margin across several segments this quarter. I think you've alluded that there will be some kind of normalization in the incentive compensation. But how should we think about, from a sustainability and talent standpoint, are you structurally resetting some of that incentive programs, or is this paying below at a tough year? As you look at the labor market in your key regions, are you comfortable with the overall comp structure remains competitive enough to execute Project Fortify and your growth plans? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:27:03Yeah. We believe our structure is fine. We just entered into a more difficult year, and we're not meeting our targets. So our compensation will be less this year, but we expect that to normalize into the future. Gowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular Research00:27:25Thank you. That's all I have. Thank you, guys. Operator00:27:28Thank you. Our next question coming from Julio Romero with Sidoti. Your line is now open. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:27:37Thanks. Hey, good morning. Don, could you help us think about how you view the company's growth trajectory and opportunity set? And then also, how does the next leg of growth, in your view, for the company translate to any change in ROIC hurdles or metrics? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:27:59First of all, the strategy that we're focused on hasn't changed. We remain focused on becoming the economic leader in the target markets we serve, managing our portfolio, and strengthening the core. No change, Julio, in how we think about where we're going to grow and how. The addition of UW Solutions certainly opened up new markets, new products that will enable us to grow faster. As part of our managing portfolio strategy, we continue to look for new opportunities along those lines. Looking for acquisitions that will enable faster growth and at higher margins. We're going to talk a lot more about that on our next call when we talk about fiscal year 2027. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:28:49Okay. Understood. I guess maybe can you dig into a little bit into the priorities that are more near-term in nature? Obviously, you have Project Fortify expansion. But any other kind of quicker turn wins or low-hanging fruit that you're looking to kind of achieve early on? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:29:11Delivering the results, delivering our results will be critical. We're focused on delivering the year right now. I mean, that's front and center. Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:29:22Julia, I would just add, yes, Project Fortify Phase 2 is probably the most important. But I would suggest that we're amping up AMS again as we think about how we're trying to drive cost structure down. Our best tool to do that is through the Apogee Management System. So that's going to be our tool to get there. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:29:48Yeah. I mean, to Frank, Julio, so AMS, I mean, that's one of my observations for my first 60 days. The operational excellence and productivity improvements that we've been able to deliver through AMS are truly extraordinary, especially in the glass business. We're seeing strength across the board: safety, quality, on-time delivery, you name it. And by the way, that was the birthplace of AMS. So they're leading the way, and it shows what we can do with the rest of the company. So it'll be a key focus for us. And the last thing is, I think I mentioned a couple of times, but creative M&A, it's front and center too. We have a robust pipeline, and we're active. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:30:34Got it. And I guess just going back to my first question a little bit more, and it ties into your comment about robust M&A pipeline. Do you see any kind of viewpoint difference with regards to yourself versus the last management team with regards to kind of IRR hurdles or rate of return hurdles when you look at that M&A and kind of moving forward with that? Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:31:08No, I don't think any difference in the financial analysis. But I would say move faster. And we move with discipline, of course, but also faster. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:31:25Got it. That's helpful. I appreciate it. And then the last one for me would just be on you gave some preliminary commentary on your fiscal 2027. You talked about you don't expect the tariff impact to reoccur in fiscal 2027. But any other kind of high-level thoughts with regards to how you see the possibility of revenue or profit growth in 2027? Mark AugdahlInterim CFO at Apogee Enterprises00:31:49Yeah. I guess I'll reiterate. We're kind of in the process right now of doing our AOPs. We highlighted what I viewed are the key tailwinds and headwinds that we have in front of us, tailwinds being Project Fortify Phase 2 and the tariffs not repeating. And the headwinds, of course, we've covered now several times with normalization of incentive comp. And certainly, aluminum prices will continue to be monitored as we go through the fourth quarter and as we scenario plan our AOP. Julio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at Sidoti00:32:26Helpful. Best of luck, guys. Thanks. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:32:28Thank you. Operator00:32:31Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Don Nolan for any closing comments. Don NolanCEO at Apogee Enterprises00:32:38Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to sharing the fourth quarter and full-year results in April along with our fiscal 2027 outlook. I hope you have a great week. Thanks. Operator00:32:52Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJeremy SteffanVP of Investor Relations and Corporate CommunicationsMark AugdahlInterim CFODon NolanCEOAnalystsGowshihan SriharanSenior Research Analyst at Singular ResearchJulio RomeroEquity Research Analyst at SidotiBrent ThielmanManaging Director and Senior Research Analyst at D.A. DavidsonJon BraatzSenior Equity Analyst at KCCAPowered by