CareTrust REIT Q4 2025 Earnings Report

CareTrust REIT EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $0.50
• Consensus EPS: $0.47
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$0.03
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

CareTrust REIT Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $134.86 million
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

CareTrust REIT Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q4 2025
• Date: 2/12/2026
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Friday, February 13, 2026
• Conference Call Time: 1:00PM ET

CareTrust REIT (NYSE:CTRE) is a healthcare-focused real estate investment trust that owns and manages a portfolio of healthcare-related properties across the United States. The company primarily invests in properties that are leased to healthcare operators under long-term, typically triple-net lease agreements.

CareTrust’s portfolio includes skilled nursing facilities, assisted living facilities, independent living communities, memory care properties and other healthcare-related real estate. Its tenants are responsible for operating the facilities and generally cover property-level expenses such as taxes, insurance and maintenance under the terms of the leases.

CareTrust was established in 2014 through a separation from The Ensign Group, a healthcare services company. The REIT serves markets throughout the United States and focuses on acquiring and owning properties that support the delivery of post-acute and senior care services.

CareTrust REIT Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: CareTrust completed $1.8 billion of investments in 2025, driving a 17.3% year-over-year increase in normalized FFO per share and growing market cap to $8.2 billion.
• Positive Sentiment: The company added two growth engines — acquisition of Care REIT to enter UK Care Homes and its first SHOP deal — and reports a ~\$500 million pipeline (≈50% UK care homes, ≈33% skilled nursing, remainder SHOP/loans) with an additional ~$215 million closed since year-end.
• Positive Sentiment: Financials and liquidity remain strong — Q4 normalized FFO per share was $0.47, FY2026 guidance is $1.90–$1.95 (midpoint +9.4% YoY), ~\$100 million cash on hand, full availability on a \$1.2 billion revolver, and low leverage (net debt/EBITDA 0.7x).
• Negative Sentiment: Management notes increasing competition and cap‑rate compression in SHOP, which could pressure yields and force stricter underwriting to reach its target low‑double‑digit unlevered IRR on some deals.
• Neutral Sentiment: Capital plan includes ~\\$372 million gross proceeds pending from unsettled equity forward contracts under the ATM program to fund acquisitions, and FY26 guidance assumes no additional investments or financings beyond announced transactions.

Presentation

[Operator]

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the CareTrust Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the call over to Lauren Beale, CareTrust's Chief Accounting Officer. Please go ahead.

[Lauren Beale, Chief Accounting Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Thank you, and welcome to CareTrust REIT's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. We will make forward-looking statements today based on management's current expectations, including statements regarding future financial performance, dividends, acquisitions, investments, financing plans, business strategies, and growth prospects. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ from our expectations. These risks are discussed in CareTrust REIT's most recent Form 10-K filing with the SEC. We do not undertake a duty to update or revise these statements except as required by law. During the call, the company will reference non-GAAP metrics such as EBITDA, FFO, and FAD.

[Lauren Beale, Chief Accounting Officer at CareTrust REIT]

A reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings press release and Q4 and full year 2025 non-GAAP reconciliation that are available on the investor relations section of CareTrust website at www.caretrustreit.com. A replay of this call will also be available on the website for a limited period. On the call this morning are Dave Sedgwick, President and Chief Executive Officer; James Callister, Chief Investment Officer; and Derek Bunker, Chief Financial Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Dave Sedgwick, CareTrust's President and CEO. Dave?

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Lauren. Good morning. I want to first acknowledge our dear friend, Dollar Bill Wagner, who officially retired a few weeks ago. CareTrust would not be what it is without Bill. He helped establish a strong foundation on which we are poised for success, and our future achievements will be a tribute to his many contributions. We wish him well in his much-deserved retirement and caution him to take it easy on the Oreo cookies and the pizza. It's a marathon, Bill, not a sprint. All right. Thank you for joining us as we reflect on the incredible year that was 2025 and our plans to keep the flywheel ripping for years to come. Simply put, 2025 was a transformational year for CareTrust.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Starting the year, we were a team of 21, coming off the most active investment year of our history by a factor of five, punctuated by our largest single transaction to that point, which we closed at the end of 2024. Our portfolio consisted predominantly of triple net leased skilled nursing facilities with a handful of net leased senior housing assets and a loan book. In 2024, we had grown the equity market cap 74% to $5.1 billion, but we are never satisfied. So even though the company was running at a record pace, we believed two things: one, we had another gear in us, and two, we needed to do some strategic heavy lifting to position the company to scale for the long term.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

So we got to work, doubling our team of professionals, adding firepower throughout the organization, and bringing in-house other areas like tax and data science. We executed, acquiring Care REIT, including their team, to enter the UK Care Home market and closing on our first shop deal after methodically evaluating many opportunities, large and small, along the way. Our collective efforts led to total investments of $1.8 billion, surpassing our record 2024 and supporting our 17.3% year-over-year normalized FFO per share growth. Beyond FFO, we've increased the diversification of our portfolio across geography, asset type, operator, borrower, manager, and payer source, as well as achieving continual improvement in our already strong EBITDA rent coverage. We ended the year having again grown our market cap by 61% to $8.2 billion.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

I cannot help but take a moment to thank our shareholders, our board, our operators, our capital and strategic partners, and our entire team for their dedication and hard work. We simply could not have produced the ten-year total shareholder return through year-end of approximately 439% without your commitment, professionalism, and sacrifices. I could go on and on about 2025, but really, our focus is on 2026. The accelerating momentum from 2024 to 2025 and the resulting growth has only stoked the hunger and motivation everyone at CareTrust feels to make 2026 another great year. Today, the skilled nursing operating environment is stable and largely supportive across most states, and the senior housing environment in both the U.S. and U.K. is also stable and gaining strength in many markets.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

As we hit the ground running in 2026, we do it with a CareTrust team that is deeper and more capable than any time in our history, and we are now running with the two additional growth engines of UK Care Homes and SHOP. And yet, the start of this year feels very much like déjà vu all over again. What do I mean? What I mean is, like 12 months ago, we're coming off another record year. Our operators continue to set the standard for portfolio lease coverage. We continue to have access to capital and a fortress balance sheet, and we again have high hopes for a substantial year of external growth. And we still feel the same urgency and hunger to grow long-term shareholder value, and our mission remains the same:

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

To be a unique healthcare REIT that is by operators, for operators, making disciplined investments in assets and operators who can change the world of senior housing and care in a big way. With that, I'll turn it over to James. No pressure, my friend.

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Dave. Good morning, everyone. During the fourth quarter, we completed approximately $562 million of investments, including our first SHOP deal, which involved three communities in Texas, totaling 270 assisted living and memory care units. We're excited to partner with Sinceri Senior Living, who will help manage those communities for us. Fourth quarter investments included about $84 million of loans, with the majority towards the skilled nursing sector, approximately $27 million to acquire two senior housing communities, triple net leased to an established operator, and the remainder comprising the acquisition of 14 skilled nursing facilities across three transactions. Overall, the blended stabilized yield on fourth quarter investments was 8.8%.

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Since year-end, we've closed on another approximately $215 million of investments, including the acquisition of 6 skilled nursing facilities in the Mid-Atlantic at a strong going-in rent coverage, leased to a quality operator in a new relationship for CareTrust, and 2 care homes in the UK, net leased to an existing operator. As we look forward, our investment pipeline remains strong, sitting at approximately $500 million. The quoted pipeline is approximately half UK Care Homes, a third skilled nursing, 1 small SHOP deal, and the remainder a combination of loans and senior housing triple net. It includes some singles and doubles, as well as some mid to large-sized portfolio transactions.

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Please remember that when we quote our pipe, we only include deals that we have a reasonable level of confidence that we can lock up and close within the next 12 months, and it does not always include larger portfolios that we are reviewing. Our investment pipeline remains robust, supported by a balanced mix of broker transactions and proprietary opportunities generated through established operator relationships and other strategic channels. We continue to see consistent deal flow across all sectors, encompassing triple net and SHOP structures, alongside a steady and meaningful increase in overall transaction activity, particularly within seniors housing and the care home market. We're seeing the most competition in SHOP, where cap rates continue to compress as investors seek more exposure to the sector to benefit from operating trends.

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Having said that, we're still finding SHOP opportunities that excite us, and we're benefiting from our strategic push in the UK and through our solid pipeline of skilled nursing deals. Our disciplined underwriting framework, combined with a strong focus on long-term operator partnerships and a commitment to creative, collaborative transaction structuring, will continue to drive sustainable growth across the skilled nursing, senior housing, and UK Care Home sectors. With that, I'll turn it over to Derek to review our quarterly financial results.

[Derek Bunker, CFO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, James. For the fourth quarter, normalized FFO increased 42.7% over the prior quarter to $104.1 million, and normalized FAD increased 38.7% to $103 million. On a per-share basis, normalized FFO increased $0.07, or 17.5% to $0.47 per share, and normalized FAD increased $0.05 or 12.2% to $0.46 per share. For the full year, normalized FFO per share increased $0.26 or 17.3% to $1.76 per share, and normalized FAD increased $0.22 or 14.3% to $1.76 per share.

[Derek Bunker, CFO at CareTrust REIT]

During the fourth quarter, we sold 6.5 million shares on a forward basis at an average price of $37.30, for gross proceeds of approximately $242.5 million. After year-end, we sold another 3.5 million shares on a forward basis for gross proceeds of $129.5 million, for a current total of $372 million of gross proceeds pending from unsettled equity forward contracts outstanding under the ATM program. We anticipate using proceeds from these sales to fund our acquisition pipeline. In yesterday's press release, we provided initial guidance for fiscal year 2026 of normalized FFO per share of $1.90-$1.95, and normalized FAD per share of $1.90-$1.95.

[Derek Bunker, CFO at CareTrust REIT]

The midpoints of which each represent a year-over-year increase of 9.4%. In addition to the assumptions detailed in our release yesterday, I will note that our guidance does not assume any new investments, dispositions, debt repayments, and debt or equity issuances beyond those announced to date. Since we do not assume additional investments in our guidance, we assume the equity, equity forward contracts will settle at year-end. Lastly, our liquidity continues to remain strong. In addition to approximately $100 million of cash on hand as of February 11, 2026, we have full capacity available on our $1.2 billion revolver.

[Derek Bunker, CFO at CareTrust REIT]

Despite our record pace of investments, we continue to maintain low leverage with net debt to EBITDA of 0.7x, net debt to enterprise value of 3.7%, and a fixed charge coverage ratio of 10.5x, each as of year-end. With that, I'll turn it back to Dave.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Derek. We hope our report has been helpful to you, and thank you for your continued support. We'll be happy to answer your questions at this time.

[Operator]

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. Please pick up your handset when asking a question. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Farrell Granath with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please proceed with your question.

[Farrell Granath, Equity Research Associate at Bank of America]

Thank you. I guess I'll just start it off with your guidance and expectations for the pipeline going forward. I know you've added that there's been some additional, competition, at least in the SHOP area, but I'm curious if you can elaborate on the opportunity set on these larger portfolios, specifically in SHOP. Now that you've entered into smaller deals, with your recent acquisition, is it seemingly easier to have these conversations? Are you having more inbounds, especially on these larger portfolios?

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Yeah. Hey, Farrell, this is James. I mean, I think that the inbounds, I think are pretty consistent. SHOP deals are typically pretty heavily marketed. So I think you see a pretty wide range of large and small deals that come through. I think our view is we want to look at all of it, right? I think that we want to be able to look at large and small, and see the best, most risk-adjusted path to get us to a low double-digit IRR. So I think we look at both, and like I said, they're pretty heavily marketed, even the larger ones.

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

I think we see just about everything that comes in, and I think brokers have definitely gotten word of our interest in SHOP, and, you know, I'd be pretty surprised, shocked, if a meaningful deal was out there that hadn't come across our desk.

[Farrell Granath, Equity Research Associate at Bank of America]

Thank you. And also in your commentary around, specifically SNFs, reaching record levels of coverage, and now looking forward to 2026, I'm curious, how sustainable do you think these coverage levels are, as well as just framing the current market environment, headlines when it comes to Medicare Advantage, and how you're just viewing SNFs in the market?

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Yeah, thanks, Farrell. This, the skilled nursing environment right now, I think, is in a really good place. Speaking with our operators very recently, that's the sentiment that we get from them. Labor is in a much better place than it has been in recent history. The state's regulatory, reimbursement-wise, things feel really good, and our operators are really anxious to seize the moment and get back into growth mode. So we feel like, if you look at our portfolio, and you look at the coverage, you know, our occupancy is right around 79%-80%. So there's still room, quite a bit of upside for our operators as that number increases to offset, you know, the inevitable headwinds.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

There's always gonna be headwinds in skilled nursing every year. There's always something. But with great operators and beefy coverage, you can, at least we can, we believe, manage through any of that.

[Farrell Granath, Equity Research Associate at Bank of America]

Great. Thank you very much.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Farrell.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Wes Golladay with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Wes Golladay, Senior Research Analyst at Baird]

Thank you. Hey, hey, everyone. You did make some data analytic hires earlier in the year. Can you talk about what they're focused on at the beginning? Are they mainly targeting senior housing operations, or is it for, more so for the acquisitions of all segments?

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Yeah, so the investment in the data science team right now is prioritized on building out our SHOP capabilities, building out that platform. But ultimately, that team is gonna have an impact across the whole organization, making us more efficient, making us smarter. We're already seeing it, and we really like what we see. We'll continue to invest in that department.

[Wes Golladay, Senior Research Analyst at Baird]

Okay. Thank you.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Wes.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please proceed.

[Michael Carroll, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

Yep, thanks. James, can you provide us some details on the pipeline, right now? Of that $500 million, like, what's the breakout between care homes, SHOP, and skilled nursing facility deals?

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Yeah, Mike, I would say of that $500 million right now, I think, like I kind of put in the prepared remarks, it's about a half UK Care Homes right now, about a third, I would say, US skilled nursing, and the rest is a combination of, you know, a SHOP deal, triple net seniors, and a couple of small loans in there.

[Michael Carroll, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

I'm sorry. I forgot that you said that. Can you... I know you kind of highlight this earlier, but just on the competitive landscape that you're seeing within this space, I mean, is it any more competitive in specific property types? Like, are you seeing it being more competitive in SHOP, SNFs, UK Care Homes, or is it kind of similar across the board?

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

You know, I would say of the three segments, I think that SHOP is definitely the most competitive. I think you have the most capital pursuing deals. So I think you see definitely the most interest based on groups wanting to get in on the operating trends. But I think that we still feel like there's SHOP deals out there that really excite us. I feel like with our cost of capital, we can be really competitive, and as we really pore through just about everything that comes in, you know, deals that we think can get us through different paths to that low double-digit IRR. We feel like when we find those deals that really intrigue us, despite the competition, that we can pounce and go get the deals we really want.

[Michael Carroll, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

Then if you look at the cap rates for each individual property type, how much do they typically vary? I know that you did about high eights, I guess, in the fourth quarter and to date. Like, if you're looking at more U.K. care homes and SHOP deals, I mean, should we expect that yield to dip a little bit lower? And just kind of off of that, when you're quoting those cap rates, do you include the tax leakage on the U.K. care homes, or do we need to make sure that we think about that when we are putting your numbers out there?

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

I'll defer to Derek. I think we do quote post-tax, but I mean, the SNF yields are gonna be the same that they've been historically. I mean, if it's a really large portfolio deal or with incredible coverage, we might dip, you know, a teeny below what we normally do, but SNF yields are still gonna be in the 9s. SHOP cap rates, Mike, are definitely compressing, so every deal's a little different. There's just a wider band range of cap rates in seniors, depending on how old the vintage is, the CapEx needs, the location, the age, all those kinds of things. In the U.K., I mean, it's typically gonna be pre-tax mid-8s to higher, post-tax mid-7s to higher.

[Michael Carroll, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets]

Great, I appreciate it.

[Derek Bunker, CFO at CareTrust REIT]

On the blended yield, we typically do not exclude the impact of the withholding tax in the UK when giving the blended stabilized yield.

[Operator]

Okay, your next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Michael Goldsmith, US REITs Analyst at UBS]

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. You know, you've already done $250 million to start the year. You've got $500 million in the pipeline. So over $700 million. At this point last year, you were at $350 million. You know, you started the call talking about how, how 2025 was a bit of déjà vu, of 2024 with, with the growth. But I guess, just given where you're set up, like, you know, how confident are you that we'll be talking about next year, you know, we'll be talking about déjà vu all over again, given, given the strong growth and, and investment opportunities?

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Oh, I, I love a crystal ball question, Mike. I'll, I'll answer it this way. I, I think we felt really, really good going into 2025. We felt like the table was set to have another big year. And the difference going into this year is I, I just feel better about it, because now the, the difference is our team is deeper and more capable, and we have the UK and the SHOP TAMs to, to play in as well. So it—as long as there's some, some meaningful, you know, chunky-type opportunities out there, we should be really competitive. And we, we certainly have the potential, if those deals materialize, to, to have another, really substantial year.

[Michael Goldsmith, US REITs Analyst at UBS]

Thanks for that. And, as a follow-up, you know, being an SNF REIT and seeing the operational intensity that comes with skilled nursing and dealing with SNF operators, does that give you an advantage as you enter SHOP? How much different is there in identifying skilled nursing operators versus SHOP operators? Thanks.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks for that question. We, we do think that our, our operating DNA and deep experience is helpful. It certainly informs how we underwrite, it certainly informs how we vet operators, and how we asset manage. I think it, it provides a deeper level, across the board. And I think you see that manifested in our lease coverage. You know, that, that really is a, a symbol of choosing the right operators, underwriting the deals properly. And, and there's a lot that we're, that, that we carry over from vetting skilled operators with, with choosing seniors as well.

[Michael Goldsmith, US REITs Analyst at UBS]

Thank you very much. Good luck in 2026.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks a lot.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Juan Sanabria, US REITs Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Hi, thanks for the time. Just, just curious, as you've expanded your opportunities with the UK Care Homes and SHOP, if you look at, one, UK SHOP or idea transactions, and two, if you consider doing development at some point in seniors housing, recognizing you are larger and can maybe wear the initial dilution. I would imagine some of the growing operators are looking to development as a source of opportunity, so just curious on your stance on those two.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Great question. I think on the first, as we look at the UK, the operator relationships we have right now are eager to grow with us. And they've expressed a desire to continue to, you know, to do deals with us in a triple net basis. I think that there will be, as you look in the future, there's gonna be opportunities probably to apply our shop platform to the UK. So I would never say never on that, and I'd say it's probably more likely than not in years to come. So the second part of your question was development, and I think, yeah, there, there's gonna be. I think what we would like to do there is be the risk to the market instead of being at risk.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

So right now, generally, you know, it still doesn't pencil to do anything in a significant way here in the United States with respect to development. But there could be certain circumstances, certain opportunities that do. And on a limited basis, for the right operator, for the right location, I think we would take a hard look at that.

[Juan Sanabria, US REITs Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Great. Thanks. You kind of know you get a new operating partner in the Mid-Atlantic with the recent transaction. I'm not sure if you feel comfortable naming that operator or if you could just give us a little color on that group, and if it was related in any way to the Integra transaction that one of your peers announced.

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

Yeah, I mean, I don't think we have a problem announcing it. They've released their own press releases, Juan, so it's the group known as Larry H. Miller Group, but I don't think they're affiliated with anything else anybody has announced. If you're referencing Sabre, it's not Sabre.

[Juan Sanabria, US REITs Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Thank you.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Juan.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Stroyeck with Green Street. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Michael Stroyeck, Equity Research Analyst at Green Street]

Thanks, and good morning. Can you maybe just talk about your underwriting criteria within SHOP, and whether that's changed at all due to the increased competition, either at the property level or just in terms of IRR requirements? Or are you just passing on more deals than maybe you would have, call it, 3-6 months ago?

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

I mean, we've definitely noticed the compression in cap rates. I think that we still look to get an unlevered IRR in the low double digits, and we look at every deal to see what that deal's path is to get us there and what we think the pricing will be. So, I mean, I don't think we just look at it in one box and say, you know, we have to have, you know, a seven going in, and it has to look exactly like this to get us there. I think we're gonna look at it, given the compression in the market and the cap rates, and we're gonna look at what's this deal's path to get us to that low double digit and how realistic is it, right?

[James Callister, Chief Investment Officer at CareTrust REIT]

If it's in lease up, if it does or doesn't meet CapEx, what its position is in the market, what's the revenue versus expense growth look like. So I think we look at all of that in the same way we always have. I think that we take expected pricing into account for sure, and it impacts how we see us getting to that double-digit IRR. But, you know, maybe some deals trade a little too expensive to get us there, but that's always been the case a little bit. So I don't think it's changed much of the underwriting. I think it's just changed the path we see us getting to the low double-digit IRR we're looking for.

[Michael Stroyeck, Equity Research Analyst at Green Street]

Got it. Makes sense. Maybe one additional question. Just given pretty minimal leverage today, how are you thinking about funding future external growth, and at what point do you think it would make sense to use some balance sheet capacity instead of equity issuances?

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Mike. You know, I think more of the same as we've approached over the past year or two. Really just piggybacking off Dave's comments, it feels like we're positioned really well. Capital markets have been favorable. I think as rates have come down, you know, using the balance sheet is a balance between looking at where our equity is trading and a little bit more on the revolver side. And I think there will be a point where we start to carry a little bit there, and maybe then look toward kind of the bond market, especially as we fully realize the IG savings that we think we can get.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

But we just feel like we're in a multi-year sort of inflection of getting bigger deals and bigger opportunities, and so we wanna make sure we've got really full capacity and full availability, whether that's debt or equity.

[Michael Stroyeck, Equity Research Analyst at Green Street]

All right. Thanks for the time.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Mike.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Austin Wurschmidt with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

[Austin Wurschmidt, Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets]

Yeah, Dave, you referenced some of the hiring that you've done this past year, and I'm just wondering, you know, for any potential larger transactions, do you feel like you have the platform and people in place to digest that? Or do you think it would come with, you know, adding additional folks to kind of help oversee that effort, you know, maybe particularly within SHOP, which is a little bit of a newer segment for you?

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Yeah, I think the answer to that is really gonna be relative to the circumstances of the deal, the size of it, the complexity of it, whether or not there's a team or part of a team that would come with it. Those are all things that we throw into the mix to figure out how to get a big deal done. The team here is pound for pound, in my opinion, the best and the most capable to do all sorts of things. But there still are gonna be some deals like the UK Care Home acquisition last year, Care REIT, where it came with some really talented people, and we decided to keep. So it's all gonna be relative to the circumstances of the particular deal.

[Austin Wurschmidt, Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets]

Helpful. And then, just one on the loan book. I mean, it seems like kinda the competition in the lending markets these days has picked up a little bit. I mean, any risk of, you know, loan prepayments that you foresee or any conversations you're having on that front?

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Well, you know, the loans strategy that we put in place a few years ago has wildly exceeded our expectations and helped fuel real growth, real acquisition of real estate that either came with or because of those loans and relationships that we developed. I think as things get more competitive as banks kind of jump back into the space, those relationships are still very active with us and still looking at off-market opportunities with those relationships. And so I think that's still gonna be, going forward, a really unique and powerful mode of growth for us.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Maybe a little bit less than it has been in the past if banks continue to get really aggressive, but we are looking still, not included in that pipeline number, at some larger deals that are off market with some of these strategic partners of ours. And you know, if we get some loans paid back, that'll just fuel additional growth because that pipeline continues to reload.

[Austin Wurschmidt, Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets]

Thank you.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Thanks, Austin.

[Operator]

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Dave Sedgwick, CEO, for closing remarks.

[Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO at CareTrust REIT]

Well, we're really grateful for everybody's interest and support. If you have follow-ups, you know where to find us. Have a great day.

[Operator]

That concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

Participants

Executives

• Lauren Beale, Chief Accounting Officer
• Dave Sedgwick, President and CEO
• James Callister, Chief Investment Officer
• Derek Bunker, CFO

Analysts

• Farrell Granath, Equity Research Associate at Bank of America
• Wes Golladay, Senior Research Analyst at Baird
• Michael Carroll, Managing Director at RBC Capital Markets
• Michael Goldsmith, US REITs Analyst at UBS
• Juan Sanabria, US REITs Analyst at BMO Capital Markets
• Michael Stroyeck, Equity Research Analyst at Green Street
• Austin Wurschmidt, Senior Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets