NYSE:STNG Scorpio Tankers Q4 2025 Earnings Report $86.00 -1.16 (-1.33%) As of 03:58 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Scorpio Tankers EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.62Consensus EPS $1.37Beat/MissBeat by +$0.25One Year Ago EPS$0.63Scorpio Tankers Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$252.65 millionExpected Revenue$238.93 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$13.73 millionYoY Revenue Growth+23.80%Scorpio Tankers Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2025Date2/13/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, February 12, 2026Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsScorpio Tankers' Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, October 29, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (6-K)Annual Report (20-F)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Scorpio Tankers Q4 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 12, 2026ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Net cash and liquidity: Scorpio reduced net debt from $3.1 billion in 2021 to a net cash position (~$309 million today) and holds approximately $1.7 billion of available liquidity, giving the company strong balance-sheet flexibility to fund newbuilds or opportunistic actions. Positive Sentiment: Strong 2025 results and low breakeven: The company reported $152 million of Adjusted EBITDA in Q4 and $568 million for the full year (IFRS net income $344 million), with a record low cash break-even of about $11,000/day per vessel, implying significant free cash flow potential at current rates. Positive Sentiment: Shareholder returns increased: Scorpio raised its quarterly dividend to $0.45 per share (up 12.5% YoY) and signaled intent to grow and sustain the payout through the cycle, supported by structural cash generation. Positive Sentiment: Supportive market fundamentals: Management highlighted five consecutive quarters of improving rates, rising ton-mile demand from refinery relocations, LR2 crossover into crude trades, and sanctions that tighten effective supply—factors they view as structurally supportive of higher product-tanker rates. Neutral Sentiment: Fleet and capital discipline: the company sold 10 older vessels, contracted 10 modern newbuilds, prepaid ~$154.6 million of secured debt and remains opportunistic on S&P or M&A, but acknowledges shipping is cyclical and outcomes depend on future market conditions. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallScorpio Tankers Q4 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Q4 2025 conference call. I would now like to turn the call over to James Doyle, Head of Corporate Development and IR. Please go ahead, sir. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:00:14Thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Q4 2025 earnings call. On the call with me today are Emanuele Lauro, Chief Executive Officer, Robert Bugbee, President, Cameron Mackey, Chief Operating Officer, Chris Avella, Chief Financial Officer, Lars Dencker Nielsen, Chief Commercial Officer. Earlier today, we issued our Q4 earnings press release, which is available on our website, scorpiotankers.com. The information discussed on this call is based on information as of today, February 12, 2026, and may contain forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty. Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the forward-looking statement disclosure in the earnings press release, as well as Scorpio Tankers' SEC filings, which are available at scorpiotankers.com and sec.gov. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:01:12Call participants are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcasted live on the Internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. An archive of the webcast will be made available on the Investor Relations page of our website for approximately 14 days. We will be giving a short presentation today. The presentation is available at scorpiotankers.com on the Investor Relations page under Reports and Presentations. The slides will also be available on the webcast. After the presentation, we will go to Q&A. For those asking questions, please limit them to the number two. If you have an additional question, please rejoin the queue. Now, I'd like to introduce our Chief Executive Officer, Emanuele Lauro. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:01:56Thank you, James. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for being with us today. Scorpio Tankers delivered another strong quarter and a transformative year. In Q4, we generated $152 million of Adjusted EBITDA, and for the full year, Adjusted EBITDA reached $568 million. The real story is not just earnings. The real story is structural strength. Since 2021, we have reduced net debt from $3.1 billion to a net cash position of $309 million today. This net cash position is increasing by the day and has accelerated sharply in Q1. We have fundamentally reset the company. Today, we hold approximately $1.7 billion of liquidity and growing. Our daily cash break-even is $11,000 per day per vessel. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:02:50In the current rate environment, this translates into powerful free cash flow generation. Even under stress conditions similar to the COVID levels, we remained around... We remain around cash break-even. We are structurally resilient with significant operating leverage. We have upgraded the fleet with discipline. We've sold 10 older vessels at a strong valuation, and we've been reinvesting in 10 modern new buildings. The fleet is younger, more efficient, and positioned for higher earnings power. At the same time, we are increasing the quarterly dividend to $0.45 per share, up 12.5% year-over-year. We're growing the dividend because we can, because we have the balance sheet, because the payout is supported by structural cash generation, not temporary conditions. Turning to fundamentals, rates have improved for five consecutive quarters, with momentum continuing, continuing into Q1 2026. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:03:50Refinery closures are lengthening trade routes, ton-mile demand is expanding, unprecedented strength in the crude market is tightening effective vessel supply in the product tanker space. These are structural drivers and not cyclical noise. We cannot control the market cycle, but we can control our preparedness. Today, we operate a modern fleet. We have substantial liquidity. We have structurally low break-evens. We have a net cash balance sheet. This combination creates downside protection and upside torque. Scorpio Tankers is positioned to generate significant free cash flow and deliver durable shareholder returns across the cycle. We're stronger than we've ever been, and we're positioned to capitalize on what comes our way. With that, I'd like to turn the call to Robert. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:04:43Thank you very much, Emanuele. Let me first begin with the broader context of the industry, especially for those new to the company. We operate in a cyclical, capital-intensive industry during a period of elevated inflation, constrained supply, and shifting global trade patterns. In that environment, asset quality, balance sheet strength, and disciplined capital allocation matter more than ever. We also operate the youngest fleet in our peer group. That really matters. Younger vessels are more efficient, more commercially flexible, and increasingly advantaged as regulatory standards evolve. Shipping will always be volatile. That is not new, and it is not avoidable. What can be controlled is financial structure. Today, we have done that by materially de-risking the company. Today, we operate with a net cash position and low cash break-evens. That provides resilience in weaker markets and meaningful operating leverage in stronger ones. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:05:45For investors, the case is straightforward: hard, asset-backed, conservative financial structure and a platform capable of generating substantial cash flow across the cycle. In uncertain environments, preparation and discipline create opportunity. We believe we are well prepared for both the good and the bad. Just one thing, just to sort of be very clear on. As Emanuele pointed out, our new buildings and disposal of older assets for renewal is being done in a very measured and conservative way. We will continue to ensure that if and when we order vessels, that we are generating more cash through operations and sale of older vessels than that the total outlay of the vessel that we are buying. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:06:41For those of you concerned about the high amount in building amount of cash on the balance sheet that we expect to continue to happen, you should not worry that we have no absolutely zero acquisition thoughts of other companies, or competitors, or large fleets at all. And we are—you're not going to wake up one day, one day in the morning, and find that we've made a 10-ship order. This is a very disciplined approach, balancing the arbitrage of selling the older vessels at steep prices and ordering newer vessels when we see an advantage price to the arbitrage. And with that, I'd like to pass it over to James. Thank you. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:07:30Thanks, Robert. If we could go to slide seven, please. The past 12 months have brought no shortage of headlines, and yet quietly, the product tanker market has strengthened for five consecutive quarters. Today, spot rates for LR2s and MRs are approximately $46,000 and $38,000 per day, respectively, rates at which the company generates meaningful free cash flow. The near-term setup is positive. With a lighter refinery maintenance schedule, refinery runs should increase, supporting continued growth in export volumes. For the first time in several years, the crude market is also providing tailwinds. Elevated crude rates are pulling product tankers into crude trades, tightening effective clean supply. When we step back, three structural forces are driving this market. First, demand remains strong, and refining capacity has shifted farther away from end consumers. Second, effective supply growth is constrained. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:08:31The fleet is aging faster than it's being replaced, and in a capital-intensive industry, that matters. Third, sanctions and geopolitics are reinforcing both dynamics, reshaping trade flows and tightening supply. Taken together, these forces support a constructive outlook, both near-term and longer. Slide eight, please. Global refined product demand is expected to increase by nearly one million barrels per day this year, and that growth is translating directly into seaborne exports. In January, seaborne refined product exports averaged 22.1 million barrels per day, up roughly one million barrels per day year-over-year. Not only have volumes increased, distances have increased as well. Slide nine, please. Over the last five years, export-oriented refineries in the Middle East have added capacity, while closures in the U.S., Europe, and parts of Asia have removed it. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:09:27When refining moves farther away from the consumer, products must travel farther. That increases ton-mile demand. This is not cyclical demand growth. This is structural. Since 2019, product tanker ton miles have increased roughly 20%. Slide 10, please. Aframax and LR2 demand in the Atlantic Basin has strengthened meaningfully, with volumes from the U.S. to Europe nearly doubling over the last year. That alone has tightened vessel availability across the region. At the same time, developments in Venezuela present additional upside. Last year, Venezuelan crude exports averaged roughly 800,000 barrels per day, much of it directed towards China on sanctioned tonnage. Any redirection of those barrels toward the U.S. or increases in production would further increase loading activity in the Atlantic Basin. Importantly, this comes at a time when the Aframax/LR2 market is already operating from a position of strength. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:10:26Slide 11, please. Today, approximately 54% of the LR2 fleet is trading crude oil. Part of the increase is due to soaring crude rates, and the other part is structural. The Aframax/LR2 crude market is roughly 14 million barrels per day, compared to about three million barrels per day for clean products. The crude market is simply much larger. The decision to build LR2s instead of Aframaxes is structurally changing the fleet. By 2028, nearly half of the Aframax/LR2 fleet will be LR2s. Given that crude accounts for roughly 80% of cargo volumes in this segment, LR2 crossover into dirty trades will persist. Slide 12, please. Since the EU ban on diesel refined with Russian crude took effect in early January, European imports from Türkiye and India have already declined 300,000 barrels per day. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:11:24Russian refined product exports are still moving, but are traveling farther to find buyers. Before the invasion, roughly 10% of Russian exports went to Africa, South America, the Middle East, and Türkiye. Today, that figure exceeds 70%. Russian crude has had a more difficult time finding buyers, especially with recent sanctions and retaliatory tariffs. Since July, Russian crude on water has increased from 121 million barrels to 164 million barrels in January. Much of the Russian trade has shifted towards older vessels. As you can see on the bottom right, nearly 50% of Russian crude and product exports now move on ships older than 19 years old, tonnage that is unlikely to reenter the mainstream market. Slide 13. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:12:13Today, the product tanker order book is almost 19% of the existing fleet, which may seem high, but context matters. As you can see on the left, 21% of the product tanker fleet is already over 20 years old. By 2028, it will be 30%. Sanctions also further tighten effective supply. Roughly 26% of the Aframax/LR2 fleet and 9% of the MR Handymax fleet are sanctioned, with an average age of 20-21 years old. In a normal market, much of this tonnage would have likely already exited. Slide 14. When you adjust for aging vessels, sanctioned capacity, and LR2 crossover, effective clean product supply growth is materially lower than the headline order book implies. We expect fleet growth to average roughly 3% over the next three years and potentially lower. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:13:10Putting this together, demand remains strong, and refinery shifts are structurally lengthening trade routes. Supply growth is constrained as the fleet ages at a faster rate than it's replaced, and sanctions and geopolitics are tightening both points one and two. In both the near term and long term, the market's fundamentals remain supportive. With that, I would like to turn it over to Chris. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:13:38Thank you, James. Good morning. Good afternoon, everyone. Slide 16, please. This past year, we generated $568 million in Adjusted EBITDA and $344 million in net income on an IFRS basis. We've also made $450 million in debt repayments this year, culminating with the Q4 prepayment of $154.6 million of secured debt across four different credit facilities. This prepaid all of the scheduled principal amortization on our existing bank debt for 2026 and 2027. The principal and interest savings resulting from this prepayment have further reduced our cash break-even levels, which include vessel operating costs, cash G&A, interest payments, and commitment fees, and regularly scheduled loan amortization to approximately $11,000 per day over this period. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:14:39We also entered into contracts to sell 10 vessels at substantial gains and exited our position in DHT. The cash gain on our investment in DHT was almost $30 million, or a 24% return on investment when factoring in dividends received. The chart on the right shows the progression of our net debt since December 31, 2021, which declined $3 billion to a net cash position of $124 million by the end of 2025. As of today, the net cash position is $308 million, and we are still pending the closing of the sales of two LR2 vessels for $109.8 million in aggregate. As Emanuele emphasized, achieving this milestone has given us the confidence to raise our quarterly dividend to $0.45 per share. Slide 17, please. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:15:34The chart on the left breaks down our extending debt by type. Starting at the bottom is our last remaining lease financing obligation on one vessel with Ocean Yield. This obligation is expected to be repaid before the end of this month, thereby leaving us with a debt stack consisting of secured bank debt, with the lending group dominated by experienced European shipping lenders, and our $200 million five-year senior unsecured notes, which were issued in the Nordic bond market in January 2025, and they're currently trading at around 103 to par. Further to this, $240 million of our $428 million of secured borrowings is drawn revolving debt, an important tool that we can use if we want to repay the debt but maintain access to the liquidity in the future. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:16:25The chart on the right is our debt repayment profile. With the exception of the final settlement of our last remaining lease obligation, we have no principal repayment obligations on our existing debt until 2028. Slide 18, please. As of today, we have $937 million in cash and an additional $767 million in availability under revolving credit facilities, for a total of $1.7 billion in available liquidity. Since November of last year, we have signed contracts to purchase 10 new-building vessels. The charts on the right reflect our forward payment obligations on these contracts, along with our estimated dry dock schedule through the end of 2027. Note that the timing of the installment payments on our new-building vessels and the timing of our dry docks are estimates only and subject to change. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:17:22Our capital allocation decisions over the past three years have afforded us the financial flexibility to meet the obligations under our new-building contracts, which total slightly over $700 million. Hypothetically speaking, we could pay for all of these vessels today in cash without incurring any new debt. But nevertheless, 70% of these installment payments are not due until the years 2027, 2028, and 2029. With a cash break-even rate of $11,000 per day, we are in a position to continue to build cash over the construction period. Moreover, the age and specifications of these vessels make them attractive financing candidates, which has the potential to open up opportunities for us to further optimize our capital structure and lower our cost of capital. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:18:11On top of this, our forward dry dock schedule is light, having undergone the special surveys on over 70% of our fleet in the past two years. Slide 19, please. Our cash break-even rates are at the lowest levels in the company's history. The chart on the left shows that these expected cash break-even rates are lower than the company's achieved daily TCE rates dating all the way back to 2013, with the closest point being the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic, when global oil consumption was at lows not seen in decades. To illustrate our cash generation potential at these break-even levels, at $20,000 per day, the company can generate up to $292 million in cash flow per year. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:19:01At $30,000 per day, the company can generate up to $617 million in cash flow per year. At $40,000 per day, the company can generate up to $942 million in cash flow per year. This concludes our presentation for today. Thank you, everyone, for your time and attention. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Q&A. Operator00:19:29We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and one on your telephone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star and two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Omar Nokta with Clarksons Platou Securities. Please go ahead. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Clarksons Platou Securities00:20:10Thank you. Hi, guys. Good morning. Good afternoon. Congratulations on officially reaching the net cash milestone. Wanted to ask about the dividend. You know, you bumped it here after having bumped it also last quarter. Understanding your aim is really to keep the payout sustainable through the cycles. You've got plenty of free cash flow in today's market, got a fortress balance sheet. How are you thinking about the dividend in the future? Is the aim to do a bump regularly, as in maybe once to, you know, once every couple quarters, or maybe revisit on an annual basis? Any color you're willing to share? Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:20:49Yes, thank you very much, Omar. So the dividend, first of all, the main premise is to see if we can, what we'd like to do is to grow the dividend through the cycle, pay the dividend, you know, through the cycle. That is, you know, the actual momentum of that is dependent on a lot of things. I think you've seen our, let's say, goodwill, in the sense that, you know, immediately following the implementation of increased dividend in the... after the Q3 results, we immediately stepped up now. That is a, as Emanuele point out, a really is a reward for all of us for the strength and finish of the Q4. So apart from that, I'd, you know, like to keep that undetailed. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:21:47We will, you know, review everything regularly. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Clarksons Platou Securities00:21:53All right. That, yeah, that's fair, Robert. Thank you. And maybe just a follow-up. You know, you exercised the option on the LR2s. Wanted to ask about the VLCCs. There's definitely been a lot of interest, you know, lately in that segment, whether it's from the equity markets, charters themselves or, or, you know, owners placing orders. You sort of got ahead of it a bit last year with those two orders you put in. I think it was back in October, November. Wanted to ask, how are you thinking about those right now, and whether you have options that came with those that you could potentially add to your tally? Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:22:26Sure. We had options. And the VLCC market was, you know, as we all know, was, you know, like a very, very hot commodity. Those options were very short-lived. They were options that were valid only until the end of December. At that time, in December, we were in the middle of the holidays, not complete. We didn't have complete visibility of how we felt the cash flows were moving in the market at the time, and we didn't have a strong visibility because of the holidays as well, related to, you know, potential sale of our own assets, et cetera. So we felt on balance that we could pass that, remain disciplined, especially as we had the LR2 options still, you know, let's say, up our sleeve. So those VLCC options have gone. They've expired. That's the answer, Omar. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Clarksons Platou Securities00:23:37Okay. No, thanks, Robert. That's very good. I'll now pass it back. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:23:43I think as a statement, I think that's, you know, that's a point of, you know, proof that we're not hell-bent on, you know, spending money because we have to, we feel any urge to do that or as fast as we can. We're just, as we pointed out at the beginning, we're just going to do this in a very measured way. Operator00:24:07Our next question comes from Greg Lewis with BTIG. Please go ahead. Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:24:11Hey, thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. Robert, a lot of cash. Not gonna ask you about that. You know, I did want to talk a little bit about- Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:24:25... The crude market, though, as it, as it relates to LR2s, you know, Scorpio, since its founding, has been pretty steadfast that the LR2s are gonna, are gonna primarily focus on the product side. You know, I, I guess it, it seems like the, the market is, is kind of merging as, as older crude Aframaxes are, are getting retired and, and some, you know, everyone's order-- if you're ordering a, an Aframax, you're gonna coat it. Does, does that at all change how maybe Scorpio would think about its LR2 fleet? i.e., do, do we see a path or could we see opportunities for Scorpio to potentially, you know, bounce those LR2s back and forth between the crude market, or, or should we just assume they're gonna stay in the products? Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:25:12Lars? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:25:17Hi, Greg. I think it's fair to say that the Scorpio approach in terms of LR2, clean or dirty, switching, has always remained opportunistic. I mean, we have a number of our ships in crude already. I think it's important that, considering that the global approach that we have, is to remain disciplined on these things, so we don't just dirty up ships unless the economics clearly justify it on a sustained basis. There has been, you know, the recent dirty outperformance, particularly in the Atlantic Basin, which of course we follow. We trade that element as well, and we can also see that the ability to kind of cross-trade has increased between the LR2s and the Aframaxes. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:26:05You know, the case in point is, you know, I think there's about 515 LR2s trading globally in the world today, and you only got 220-odd trading clean today, which is, you know, probably the lowest we've seen since 2020 or 2021. Now, that can then give you kind of a thing, you know, do you go dirty or not dirty is always a tactical question, and we obviously follow all these markets. And if you normalize the periods, it has a little bit of a different picture than if you just look at one quarter. But the short answer to your question really is that of course, we look at it, and we trade it as well. Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:26:47Okay, great. Thank you for that. And then just as... Ah, man, that's funny, I forgot what I was gonna ask you. Just, I feel like I ask you all the time. I feel like every time I talk to you, I talk about this, but I guess I'll word it this way: You know, rates continue to be strong. The winter market looks like it has legs. Is there any kind of expectations, you know, in the summer, you fixed a couple of multi-year time charters? Has the appetite from customers increased for multi-year term, i.e., are we seeing more opportunities over the last month or two? Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:27:32Or is that something where, really, you know, just thinking about previous cycles or previous periods of time, you know, summer is coming. Does that have any impact on the opportunity for term charters to pick up, i.e., hey, if this strength in market continues, I imagine customers will be more amped to fix multi-year deals because they know next winter is already around the corner. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:28:05I'll take that as well. I mean, we're certainly seeing improving time charter rates. The liquidity in time charters overall is improving as well. It's very strong. There's depth in it, and particularly on the LR2/Aframax market. We see also markets increasing on MRs. But there's for sure a increased demand for longer term periods. So, you know, it's for sure that the momentum is there for multi-year charter rates, and it's very interesting at the moment with that demand. Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:28:40Okay. Super helpful. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:46The next question comes from Ken Hoexter with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Tim ChiangEquity Research Associate at Bank of America00:28:52Hi, this is Tim Chang on for Ken Hoexter. Thanks for taking my question. A lot of momentum for staying in net cash. Congrats, guys, with break-evens coming down, raising a dividend. But perhaps a question for Lars: How do you see rates progressing over the next few months or 40-60 days? Been a very firm start to the year. Do you perhaps see counterseasonal increases continuing into Q2, pushing you further over level book to date with all the tailwinds from ton-mile demand, some of the geopolitical uncertainty, and, just your view, there would be great. Thanks. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:29:31Yeah, I think- Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:29:32Yeah, I mean- Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:29:33Sorry. Oh, go ahead. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:29:35I was just gonna start off, Lars, just saying, thanks, Tim. Look, I think you very well summarized all of the factors that are, you know, almost certainly gonna lead to, you know, a relatively strong Q2. Lars, you'd like to add or not to that? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:29:58Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, first of all, you know, the clean market, if we look at that first, right, is operating with very little slack at the moment. So, you know, you could say, well, it's, you know, you've got some headlines on geopolitical stuff, you've got headlines around ton miles, you've got headlines around all these things, but structurally, I think, we've got a very positive product market in front of us. You've got some things around some turnarounds taking place, but you know, that's already started in the Atlantic Basin and so on. And still, you've got a lot of product moving, and you've got open arms from the west to the east perpetually on the light end. You've got the ton miles we talked about. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:30:39So it's not just a cyclical spike, in my view. I think, you know, we've got a refining system that is operating at a very high level, and we can see that in terms of the structural support that lends itself to LR than into MRs in multiple regions. So, you know, you've had very strong Asian markets. You've had, of course, the Atlantic Basin, and you know, that's been highly reported widely in terms of, you know, we've seen multiyear highs in TD14 or TC14, et cetera, over the last couple of weeks. So, you know, today, it's not really about short-term spikes in my view. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:31:17I think we're seeing a kind of a longer wavelength coming in, and the market, for sure, has proven itself a lot more resilient than probably one initially had anticipated as we moved into 2026. Tim ChiangEquity Research Associate at Bank of America00:31:29Got it. That's very helpful. And just another quick follow-up, and then I'll pass it on. But more of an opportunity longer term, nevertheless, seeing any incremental uplift yet, and after LR2 demand from Venezuelan exports. I know you've spoken in the past to some just kind of illustrative numbers, like an additional one million barrels per day, equating to roughly 23 incremental vessels, but any update there would be great. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:32:02I mean, you know, I think, Venezuela. Yeah, yeah, why don't you go for it, then I can follow up afterwards? Yeah. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:32:09Yep, Tim, yeah, as you highlight, that, that's the math. I think so far we've seen about 300,000 barrels a day go to the U.S. The U.S. Gulf refining system is well designed for Venezuelan crude. We have the coking capacity that can turn this heavy stuff into distillate, which is good for margins and for exports. It's unclear whether all of this volume will go to the U.S. and how long production will take to increase in Venezuela. It varies, but I'd say on the margin, it's very positive. Lars? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:32:46Well, that's exactly what I would say as well. I mean, you know, at the margin, it's going to be very positive, with the ships that would have need to move, that are not in the sanctioned fleet. Tim ChiangEquity Research Associate at Bank of America00:32:59Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Operator00:33:04The next question comes from Chris Robertson with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Chris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:33:09Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. Just as a follow-up on the topic of Venezuela, what have you... We talked a bit about exports here, but what's the view around naphtha imports in terms of it being a diluent for the crude? Is that market picking up? Kind of how does that look right now with increased use of the mainstream fleet? And what did it look like beforehand in terms of those deliveries into the country? Was that on sanctioned vessels, or what's the dynamic there now? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:33:48To be honest, I think at the margin, it is not the thing that really is gonna change the Atlantic Basin product market on MRs in particular, which of course is the way that you would normally transport your naphtha into Venezuela. I think there's other things in the Atlantic Basin that has a lot greater kind of impact in terms of why the market is also strong. It just adds to the fire in the sense that it just is an additional positive. Chris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:34:19Got it. Okay, thank you, Lars. Turning towards just global inventory levels at the moment on the product side, James, I think you talked about this in the past. Any update around are inventories kind of remaining low and flat? Are they starting to pick up here and grow in OECD? What's the current status there? James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:34:40Sure. Thanks, Chris. Look, you know, you always have a buildup of inventories ahead of maintenance, so we, we've seen that, and the most up-to-date numbers we have are the U.S. distillate's still below the five-year average. It's been declining the last few weeks. You know, we've had cold weather, right? More heating oil demand and maintenance in the U.S. Gulf is just picking up. So we expect inventories to come in. OECD looks to be relatively in line. So I think from a product perspective, we haven't seen huge builds, which is great, as you go into maintenance, so we think things are gonna be tight. And so I think that's constructive. And then on the crude side, we were anticipating kind of large builds in the overall market that haven't happened. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:35:24A lot of that is due to a lot of the crude on water that's built up is really sanctioned. And if you recall, there's been these forecasts of up to four million barrels of crude oversupply. We haven't seen that yet. There have been disruptions in Kazakhstan, but overall, we think that, you know, the crude oversupply is gonna be less than anticipated, and I think that's very constructive because it speaks to how strong demand is in the global system. Chris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:35:51Thanks for that color, James. Really helpful. I'll turn it over. Thank you, guys. I appreciate the time. Operator00:35:59The next question comes from Liam Burke with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:36:03Yes, thank you. One of the macro lifts in the product tanker side has been the redistribution of global refinery capacity, and it's been a multi-year lift. Do you anticipate that continuing, or is that sort of bottomed out now? James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:36:27... Thanks, Liam. Well, look, we anticipate it to continue in the sense that there's about 300,000 barrels that are closing or part of that has closed in the West Coast, United States, for example, a Valero refinery and a Phillips 66 refinery. And as those refineries wind down in the next few months, that's 300,000 barrels, for example, that the California market needs. And if you speak to those oil and refining companies, they've highlighted that they're gonna import it from foreign markets. So in many ways, we haven't seen the benefit of those flows largely coming from Asia, and we still think there's gonna be more closures in developed markets as well, replacing that lost production. So this is gonna continue to go on for the foreseeable future. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:37:12And then at the same time, as you kind of highlight with your question, emerging markets are not building much refining capacity. It takes, you know, a minimum of five, but probably seven years to build a refinery, and that hasn't started yet. So I think going forward, that's very constructive from a ton-mile demand perspective for us as well. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:37:33Great. Thanks, James. And on the fleet management, you've had a lot of activity in 2025, both on new builds and divestitures. You've got a $1 billion liquidity position. Is there any... and rates seem to be in a good place here. Is there any additional tweaking you need to do with the fleet, or you're happy with the assets in place, and your new build, and your liquidity? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:38:04We will, we are at present engaged in the secondhand market, and you should fully expect that we would, you know, sell assets, singular or plural, over, you know, a reasonably short time. And, you know, that sale and purchase market is super strong. I mean, perhaps, Emanuele, you might like to talk a little bit about that. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:38:39Sure. As you said, we continue to engage opportunistically on inbound inquiries on the existing fleet we have. And as we've done in 2025 and before that, we positively reply to inbound requests and engage in potentially selling further assets opportunistically. We are not working at anything specifically on the buy side, at present, but you know, we don't exclude substituting and renewing in a conservative way as we have done in the past quarters, as you have seen. The S&P market is very, very hot. There is a lot of interest for tankers. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:39:32What has happened in the last six to eight weeks in the crude tanker space has definitely attracted a lot of interest into the LR2s, as well as trickled down to the smaller size vessels up to MRs, I would say. You know, this is proven by the fact, as Lars has mentioned, I think, in his remarks earlier, there are about 220 LR2s trading clean today, which, you know, in order to see that little vessels number of vessels trading in the clean markets, we have to go back five, at least five years, right, to 2021. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:40:19So, this shows the level of interest and the hype that the crude market has, the long-awaited crude market momentum has captured in the last eight weeks and continues to do so. I mean, it's the level of interest is super high. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:40:39Great. Thank you very much. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:40:42Sure. Operator00:40:44Our last question comes from Kristoffer Skeie with Arctic Securities. Please go ahead. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:40:52Hey, guys. Good morning. Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. Just, first, with regards to Q1 bookings, can you elaborate a bit more on how your LR2 fleet is trading, dirty versus clean? And how would you think about bookings, on an open basis there? I mean, there's a $40,000 difference now on LR2s and Aframax. So, how do we think about that spread? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:41:34Well, I think I'll go back to what I said initially, is that, you know, we look at these things opportunistically on every single day. But to look at it in a very kind of short backdrop is probably not the right thing to do. I think when we look at these things, considering the size and the number of ships that we have, we have to look at how we want to deploy these things. And one of the things we like to see is that as many owners have moved into dirty, and we've been talking about the number of clean ships back, I think constructively, that volatility will be an opportunity that we would want to control and take advantage of. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:42:10When you say that there's a 40,000 difference, I think that 40,000 difference is in a, in a very kind of insular market, on a particular week. We do not see 40,000 being the case over time. You know, if we look at it on a more normalized period, I think that if you look over the quarter, it's been around maybe $10,000 a day, which does not necessarily justify large-scale switching, quarter-on-quarter. That outperformance that you refer to is probably something we should look at on, on a longer perspective. I'll just say that our approach is always opportunistic when, when it comes to this. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:42:54But considering the ships that we have, the contracts that we have as well, with some of our key clients, we have to remain disciplined in terms of this. So, you know, I guess the key point is we dirty out when the econ is clearly justified. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:43:11Okay, understand. And just on term rates, we're seeing now VLCC, small VLCCs being done for one year at $90,000 a day. And it seems like LR2s are more or less flat, recent months. But if VLCC rates stay at $90,000, what would you say is a fair level that LR2s should be at? Do you see any upside potentially here? Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:43:45If I may, and then, Lars, please, jump in. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:43:48Sure. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:43:49But I think that LR2s have not, or Aframaxes, for that matter, have not remained flat. I think that today you can fix an Aframax/LR2 for one year in the high $40s. And there are the rates for three and five years, and the demand for three-and-five-year deals, which has come in strong and has been reconfirmed, which we've fixed a couple of ships for five years in Q4 last year. And today, those rates would be starting with a $3 for a five-year deal or comfortably with a $3 for a five-year deal. So, definitely the interest is there, and the rates have increased for our classes of vessels as well. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:44:47I'll just add that, you know, the market on LR2/Aframax has kind of relatively outperformed VLCCs. It's taken a while for the VLCCs to come, so it's, you know, we're very happy to see that the VLCC market finally is coming, really, to its own. And, and good for that, and it's gonna be great for the overall market. So, you know, we're happy to see that, you know, we are firing on all cylinders now. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:45:16Perfect. Thank you. That's it from me. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:45:19Yeah, I would also do... It's quite interesting. If you did a cash on cash return valuation between either, you know, the, where, where the product stocks are valuing the, vessels or even where the vessels are valued, their return on equity at the moment is, you know, every bit as strong as the VLCCs and a few in physical side. And in terms of stock side, obviously, you know, the returns for the product tankers are higher, as their stocks are selling at less of a premiums to NAV than the crude is. Operator00:46:03Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Lauro for any closing remarks. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:46:15Thank you very much, operator. No closing remarks, other than thanking everybody for your time and attention today, and look forward to being in touch going forward. Thank you. Operator00:46:27Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesChris AvellaCFOEmanuele LauroCEOJames DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor RelationsLars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial OfficerRobert BugbeePresidentAnalystsChris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche BankGreg LewisManaging Director at BTIGKristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic SecuritiesLiam BurkeManaging Director at B. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Q4 2025 conference call. I would now like to turn the call over to James Doyle, Head of Corporate Development and IR. Please go ahead, sir. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:00:14Thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the Scorpio Tankers Q4 2025 earnings call. On the call with me today are Emanuele Lauro, Chief Executive Officer, Robert Bugbee, President, Cameron Mackey, Chief Operating Officer, Chris Avella, Chief Financial Officer, Lars Dencker Nielsen, Chief Commercial Officer. Earlier today, we issued our Q4 earnings press release, which is available on our website, scorpiotankers.com. The information discussed on this call is based on information as of today, February 12, 2026, and may contain forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty. Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the forward-looking statement disclosure in the earnings press release, as well as Scorpio Tankers' SEC filings, which are available at scorpiotankers.com and sec.gov. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:01:12Call participants are advised that the audio of this conference call is being broadcasted live on the Internet and is also being recorded for playback purposes. An archive of the webcast will be made available on the Investor Relations page of our website for approximately 14 days. We will be giving a short presentation today. The presentation is available at scorpiotankers.com on the Investor Relations page under Reports and Presentations. The slides will also be available on the webcast. After the presentation, we will go to Q&A. For those asking questions, please limit them to the number two. If you have an additional question, please rejoin the queue. Now, I'd like to introduce our Chief Executive Officer, Emanuele Lauro. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:01:56Thank you, James. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for being with us today. Scorpio Tankers delivered another strong quarter and a transformative year. In Q4, we generated $152 million of Adjusted EBITDA, and for the full year, Adjusted EBITDA reached $568 million. The real story is not just earnings. The real story is structural strength. Since 2021, we have reduced net debt from $3.1 billion to a net cash position of $309 million today. This net cash position is increasing by the day and has accelerated sharply in Q1. We have fundamentally reset the company. Today, we hold approximately $1.7 billion of liquidity and growing. Our daily cash break-even is $11,000 per day per vessel. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:02:50In the current rate environment, this translates into powerful free cash flow generation. Even under stress conditions similar to the COVID levels, we remained around... We remain around cash break-even. We are structurally resilient with significant operating leverage. We have upgraded the fleet with discipline. We've sold 10 older vessels at a strong valuation, and we've been reinvesting in 10 modern new buildings. The fleet is younger, more efficient, and positioned for higher earnings power. At the same time, we are increasing the quarterly dividend to $0.45 per share, up 12.5% year-over-year. We're growing the dividend because we can, because we have the balance sheet, because the payout is supported by structural cash generation, not temporary conditions. Turning to fundamentals, rates have improved for five consecutive quarters, with momentum continuing, continuing into Q1 2026. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:03:50Refinery closures are lengthening trade routes, ton-mile demand is expanding, unprecedented strength in the crude market is tightening effective vessel supply in the product tanker space. These are structural drivers and not cyclical noise. We cannot control the market cycle, but we can control our preparedness. Today, we operate a modern fleet. We have substantial liquidity. We have structurally low break-evens. We have a net cash balance sheet. This combination creates downside protection and upside torque. Scorpio Tankers is positioned to generate significant free cash flow and deliver durable shareholder returns across the cycle. We're stronger than we've ever been, and we're positioned to capitalize on what comes our way. With that, I'd like to turn the call to Robert. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:04:43Thank you very much, Emanuele. Let me first begin with the broader context of the industry, especially for those new to the company. We operate in a cyclical, capital-intensive industry during a period of elevated inflation, constrained supply, and shifting global trade patterns. In that environment, asset quality, balance sheet strength, and disciplined capital allocation matter more than ever. We also operate the youngest fleet in our peer group. That really matters. Younger vessels are more efficient, more commercially flexible, and increasingly advantaged as regulatory standards evolve. Shipping will always be volatile. That is not new, and it is not avoidable. What can be controlled is financial structure. Today, we have done that by materially de-risking the company. Today, we operate with a net cash position and low cash break-evens. That provides resilience in weaker markets and meaningful operating leverage in stronger ones. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:05:45For investors, the case is straightforward: hard, asset-backed, conservative financial structure and a platform capable of generating substantial cash flow across the cycle. In uncertain environments, preparation and discipline create opportunity. We believe we are well prepared for both the good and the bad. Just one thing, just to sort of be very clear on. As Emanuele pointed out, our new buildings and disposal of older assets for renewal is being done in a very measured and conservative way. We will continue to ensure that if and when we order vessels, that we are generating more cash through operations and sale of older vessels than that the total outlay of the vessel that we are buying. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:06:41For those of you concerned about the high amount in building amount of cash on the balance sheet that we expect to continue to happen, you should not worry that we have no absolutely zero acquisition thoughts of other companies, or competitors, or large fleets at all. And we are—you're not going to wake up one day, one day in the morning, and find that we've made a 10-ship order. This is a very disciplined approach, balancing the arbitrage of selling the older vessels at steep prices and ordering newer vessels when we see an advantage price to the arbitrage. And with that, I'd like to pass it over to James. Thank you. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:07:30Thanks, Robert. If we could go to slide seven, please. The past 12 months have brought no shortage of headlines, and yet quietly, the product tanker market has strengthened for five consecutive quarters. Today, spot rates for LR2s and MRs are approximately $46,000 and $38,000 per day, respectively, rates at which the company generates meaningful free cash flow. The near-term setup is positive. With a lighter refinery maintenance schedule, refinery runs should increase, supporting continued growth in export volumes. For the first time in several years, the crude market is also providing tailwinds. Elevated crude rates are pulling product tankers into crude trades, tightening effective clean supply. When we step back, three structural forces are driving this market. First, demand remains strong, and refining capacity has shifted farther away from end consumers. Second, effective supply growth is constrained. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:08:31The fleet is aging faster than it's being replaced, and in a capital-intensive industry, that matters. Third, sanctions and geopolitics are reinforcing both dynamics, reshaping trade flows and tightening supply. Taken together, these forces support a constructive outlook, both near-term and longer. Slide eight, please. Global refined product demand is expected to increase by nearly one million barrels per day this year, and that growth is translating directly into seaborne exports. In January, seaborne refined product exports averaged 22.1 million barrels per day, up roughly one million barrels per day year-over-year. Not only have volumes increased, distances have increased as well. Slide nine, please. Over the last five years, export-oriented refineries in the Middle East have added capacity, while closures in the U.S., Europe, and parts of Asia have removed it. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:09:27When refining moves farther away from the consumer, products must travel farther. That increases ton-mile demand. This is not cyclical demand growth. This is structural. Since 2019, product tanker ton miles have increased roughly 20%. Slide 10, please. Aframax and LR2 demand in the Atlantic Basin has strengthened meaningfully, with volumes from the U.S. to Europe nearly doubling over the last year. That alone has tightened vessel availability across the region. At the same time, developments in Venezuela present additional upside. Last year, Venezuelan crude exports averaged roughly 800,000 barrels per day, much of it directed towards China on sanctioned tonnage. Any redirection of those barrels toward the U.S. or increases in production would further increase loading activity in the Atlantic Basin. Importantly, this comes at a time when the Aframax/LR2 market is already operating from a position of strength. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:10:26Slide 11, please. Today, approximately 54% of the LR2 fleet is trading crude oil. Part of the increase is due to soaring crude rates, and the other part is structural. The Aframax/LR2 crude market is roughly 14 million barrels per day, compared to about three million barrels per day for clean products. The crude market is simply much larger. The decision to build LR2s instead of Aframaxes is structurally changing the fleet. By 2028, nearly half of the Aframax/LR2 fleet will be LR2s. Given that crude accounts for roughly 80% of cargo volumes in this segment, LR2 crossover into dirty trades will persist. Slide 12, please. Since the EU ban on diesel refined with Russian crude took effect in early January, European imports from Türkiye and India have already declined 300,000 barrels per day. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:11:24Russian refined product exports are still moving, but are traveling farther to find buyers. Before the invasion, roughly 10% of Russian exports went to Africa, South America, the Middle East, and Türkiye. Today, that figure exceeds 70%. Russian crude has had a more difficult time finding buyers, especially with recent sanctions and retaliatory tariffs. Since July, Russian crude on water has increased from 121 million barrels to 164 million barrels in January. Much of the Russian trade has shifted towards older vessels. As you can see on the bottom right, nearly 50% of Russian crude and product exports now move on ships older than 19 years old, tonnage that is unlikely to reenter the mainstream market. Slide 13. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:12:13Today, the product tanker order book is almost 19% of the existing fleet, which may seem high, but context matters. As you can see on the left, 21% of the product tanker fleet is already over 20 years old. By 2028, it will be 30%. Sanctions also further tighten effective supply. Roughly 26% of the Aframax/LR2 fleet and 9% of the MR Handymax fleet are sanctioned, with an average age of 20-21 years old. In a normal market, much of this tonnage would have likely already exited. Slide 14. When you adjust for aging vessels, sanctioned capacity, and LR2 crossover, effective clean product supply growth is materially lower than the headline order book implies. We expect fleet growth to average roughly 3% over the next three years and potentially lower. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:13:10Putting this together, demand remains strong, and refinery shifts are structurally lengthening trade routes. Supply growth is constrained as the fleet ages at a faster rate than it's replaced, and sanctions and geopolitics are tightening both points one and two. In both the near term and long term, the market's fundamentals remain supportive. With that, I would like to turn it over to Chris. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:13:38Thank you, James. Good morning. Good afternoon, everyone. Slide 16, please. This past year, we generated $568 million in Adjusted EBITDA and $344 million in net income on an IFRS basis. We've also made $450 million in debt repayments this year, culminating with the Q4 prepayment of $154.6 million of secured debt across four different credit facilities. This prepaid all of the scheduled principal amortization on our existing bank debt for 2026 and 2027. The principal and interest savings resulting from this prepayment have further reduced our cash break-even levels, which include vessel operating costs, cash G&A, interest payments, and commitment fees, and regularly scheduled loan amortization to approximately $11,000 per day over this period. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:14:39We also entered into contracts to sell 10 vessels at substantial gains and exited our position in DHT. The cash gain on our investment in DHT was almost $30 million, or a 24% return on investment when factoring in dividends received. The chart on the right shows the progression of our net debt since December 31, 2021, which declined $3 billion to a net cash position of $124 million by the end of 2025. As of today, the net cash position is $308 million, and we are still pending the closing of the sales of two LR2 vessels for $109.8 million in aggregate. As Emanuele emphasized, achieving this milestone has given us the confidence to raise our quarterly dividend to $0.45 per share. Slide 17, please. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:15:34The chart on the left breaks down our extending debt by type. Starting at the bottom is our last remaining lease financing obligation on one vessel with Ocean Yield. This obligation is expected to be repaid before the end of this month, thereby leaving us with a debt stack consisting of secured bank debt, with the lending group dominated by experienced European shipping lenders, and our $200 million five-year senior unsecured notes, which were issued in the Nordic bond market in January 2025, and they're currently trading at around 103 to par. Further to this, $240 million of our $428 million of secured borrowings is drawn revolving debt, an important tool that we can use if we want to repay the debt but maintain access to the liquidity in the future. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:16:25The chart on the right is our debt repayment profile. With the exception of the final settlement of our last remaining lease obligation, we have no principal repayment obligations on our existing debt until 2028. Slide 18, please. As of today, we have $937 million in cash and an additional $767 million in availability under revolving credit facilities, for a total of $1.7 billion in available liquidity. Since November of last year, we have signed contracts to purchase 10 new-building vessels. The charts on the right reflect our forward payment obligations on these contracts, along with our estimated dry dock schedule through the end of 2027. Note that the timing of the installment payments on our new-building vessels and the timing of our dry docks are estimates only and subject to change. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:17:22Our capital allocation decisions over the past three years have afforded us the financial flexibility to meet the obligations under our new-building contracts, which total slightly over $700 million. Hypothetically speaking, we could pay for all of these vessels today in cash without incurring any new debt. But nevertheless, 70% of these installment payments are not due until the years 2027, 2028, and 2029. With a cash break-even rate of $11,000 per day, we are in a position to continue to build cash over the construction period. Moreover, the age and specifications of these vessels make them attractive financing candidates, which has the potential to open up opportunities for us to further optimize our capital structure and lower our cost of capital. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:18:11On top of this, our forward dry dock schedule is light, having undergone the special surveys on over 70% of our fleet in the past two years. Slide 19, please. Our cash break-even rates are at the lowest levels in the company's history. The chart on the left shows that these expected cash break-even rates are lower than the company's achieved daily TCE rates dating all the way back to 2013, with the closest point being the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic, when global oil consumption was at lows not seen in decades. To illustrate our cash generation potential at these break-even levels, at $20,000 per day, the company can generate up to $292 million in cash flow per year. Chris AvellaCFO at Scorpio Tankers00:19:01At $30,000 per day, the company can generate up to $617 million in cash flow per year. At $40,000 per day, the company can generate up to $942 million in cash flow per year. This concludes our presentation for today. Thank you, everyone, for your time and attention. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Q&A. Operator00:19:29We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and one on your telephone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star and two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Omar Nokta with Clarksons Platou Securities. Please go ahead. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Clarksons Platou Securities00:20:10Thank you. Hi, guys. Good morning. Good afternoon. Congratulations on officially reaching the net cash milestone. Wanted to ask about the dividend. You know, you bumped it here after having bumped it also last quarter. Understanding your aim is really to keep the payout sustainable through the cycles. You've got plenty of free cash flow in today's market, got a fortress balance sheet. How are you thinking about the dividend in the future? Is the aim to do a bump regularly, as in maybe once to, you know, once every couple quarters, or maybe revisit on an annual basis? Any color you're willing to share? Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:20:49Yes, thank you very much, Omar. So the dividend, first of all, the main premise is to see if we can, what we'd like to do is to grow the dividend through the cycle, pay the dividend, you know, through the cycle. That is, you know, the actual momentum of that is dependent on a lot of things. I think you've seen our, let's say, goodwill, in the sense that, you know, immediately following the implementation of increased dividend in the... after the Q3 results, we immediately stepped up now. That is a, as Emanuele point out, a really is a reward for all of us for the strength and finish of the Q4. So apart from that, I'd, you know, like to keep that undetailed. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:21:47We will, you know, review everything regularly. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Clarksons Platou Securities00:21:53All right. That, yeah, that's fair, Robert. Thank you. And maybe just a follow-up. You know, you exercised the option on the LR2s. Wanted to ask about the VLCCs. There's definitely been a lot of interest, you know, lately in that segment, whether it's from the equity markets, charters themselves or, or, you know, owners placing orders. You sort of got ahead of it a bit last year with those two orders you put in. I think it was back in October, November. Wanted to ask, how are you thinking about those right now, and whether you have options that came with those that you could potentially add to your tally? Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:22:26Sure. We had options. And the VLCC market was, you know, as we all know, was, you know, like a very, very hot commodity. Those options were very short-lived. They were options that were valid only until the end of December. At that time, in December, we were in the middle of the holidays, not complete. We didn't have complete visibility of how we felt the cash flows were moving in the market at the time, and we didn't have a strong visibility because of the holidays as well, related to, you know, potential sale of our own assets, et cetera. So we felt on balance that we could pass that, remain disciplined, especially as we had the LR2 options still, you know, let's say, up our sleeve. So those VLCC options have gone. They've expired. That's the answer, Omar. Omar NoktaManaging Director at Clarksons Platou Securities00:23:37Okay. No, thanks, Robert. That's very good. I'll now pass it back. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:23:43I think as a statement, I think that's, you know, that's a point of, you know, proof that we're not hell-bent on, you know, spending money because we have to, we feel any urge to do that or as fast as we can. We're just, as we pointed out at the beginning, we're just going to do this in a very measured way. Operator00:24:07Our next question comes from Greg Lewis with BTIG. Please go ahead. Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:24:11Hey, thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. Robert, a lot of cash. Not gonna ask you about that. You know, I did want to talk a little bit about- Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:24:25... The crude market, though, as it, as it relates to LR2s, you know, Scorpio, since its founding, has been pretty steadfast that the LR2s are gonna, are gonna primarily focus on the product side. You know, I, I guess it, it seems like the, the market is, is kind of merging as, as older crude Aframaxes are, are getting retired and, and some, you know, everyone's order-- if you're ordering a, an Aframax, you're gonna coat it. Does, does that at all change how maybe Scorpio would think about its LR2 fleet? i.e., do, do we see a path or could we see opportunities for Scorpio to potentially, you know, bounce those LR2s back and forth between the crude market, or, or should we just assume they're gonna stay in the products? Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:25:12Lars? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:25:17Hi, Greg. I think it's fair to say that the Scorpio approach in terms of LR2, clean or dirty, switching, has always remained opportunistic. I mean, we have a number of our ships in crude already. I think it's important that, considering that the global approach that we have, is to remain disciplined on these things, so we don't just dirty up ships unless the economics clearly justify it on a sustained basis. There has been, you know, the recent dirty outperformance, particularly in the Atlantic Basin, which of course we follow. We trade that element as well, and we can also see that the ability to kind of cross-trade has increased between the LR2s and the Aframaxes. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:26:05You know, the case in point is, you know, I think there's about 515 LR2s trading globally in the world today, and you only got 220-odd trading clean today, which is, you know, probably the lowest we've seen since 2020 or 2021. Now, that can then give you kind of a thing, you know, do you go dirty or not dirty is always a tactical question, and we obviously follow all these markets. And if you normalize the periods, it has a little bit of a different picture than if you just look at one quarter. But the short answer to your question really is that of course, we look at it, and we trade it as well. Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:26:47Okay, great. Thank you for that. And then just as... Ah, man, that's funny, I forgot what I was gonna ask you. Just, I feel like I ask you all the time. I feel like every time I talk to you, I talk about this, but I guess I'll word it this way: You know, rates continue to be strong. The winter market looks like it has legs. Is there any kind of expectations, you know, in the summer, you fixed a couple of multi-year time charters? Has the appetite from customers increased for multi-year term, i.e., are we seeing more opportunities over the last month or two? Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:27:32Or is that something where, really, you know, just thinking about previous cycles or previous periods of time, you know, summer is coming. Does that have any impact on the opportunity for term charters to pick up, i.e., hey, if this strength in market continues, I imagine customers will be more amped to fix multi-year deals because they know next winter is already around the corner. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:28:05I'll take that as well. I mean, we're certainly seeing improving time charter rates. The liquidity in time charters overall is improving as well. It's very strong. There's depth in it, and particularly on the LR2/Aframax market. We see also markets increasing on MRs. But there's for sure a increased demand for longer term periods. So, you know, it's for sure that the momentum is there for multi-year charter rates, and it's very interesting at the moment with that demand. Greg LewisManaging Director at BTIG00:28:40Okay. Super helpful. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:46The next question comes from Ken Hoexter with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Tim ChiangEquity Research Associate at Bank of America00:28:52Hi, this is Tim Chang on for Ken Hoexter. Thanks for taking my question. A lot of momentum for staying in net cash. Congrats, guys, with break-evens coming down, raising a dividend. But perhaps a question for Lars: How do you see rates progressing over the next few months or 40-60 days? Been a very firm start to the year. Do you perhaps see counterseasonal increases continuing into Q2, pushing you further over level book to date with all the tailwinds from ton-mile demand, some of the geopolitical uncertainty, and, just your view, there would be great. Thanks. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:29:31Yeah, I think- Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:29:32Yeah, I mean- Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:29:33Sorry. Oh, go ahead. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:29:35I was just gonna start off, Lars, just saying, thanks, Tim. Look, I think you very well summarized all of the factors that are, you know, almost certainly gonna lead to, you know, a relatively strong Q2. Lars, you'd like to add or not to that? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:29:58Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, first of all, you know, the clean market, if we look at that first, right, is operating with very little slack at the moment. So, you know, you could say, well, it's, you know, you've got some headlines on geopolitical stuff, you've got headlines around ton miles, you've got headlines around all these things, but structurally, I think, we've got a very positive product market in front of us. You've got some things around some turnarounds taking place, but you know, that's already started in the Atlantic Basin and so on. And still, you've got a lot of product moving, and you've got open arms from the west to the east perpetually on the light end. You've got the ton miles we talked about. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:30:39So it's not just a cyclical spike, in my view. I think, you know, we've got a refining system that is operating at a very high level, and we can see that in terms of the structural support that lends itself to LR than into MRs in multiple regions. So, you know, you've had very strong Asian markets. You've had, of course, the Atlantic Basin, and you know, that's been highly reported widely in terms of, you know, we've seen multiyear highs in TD14 or TC14, et cetera, over the last couple of weeks. So, you know, today, it's not really about short-term spikes in my view. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:31:17I think we're seeing a kind of a longer wavelength coming in, and the market, for sure, has proven itself a lot more resilient than probably one initially had anticipated as we moved into 2026. Tim ChiangEquity Research Associate at Bank of America00:31:29Got it. That's very helpful. And just another quick follow-up, and then I'll pass it on. But more of an opportunity longer term, nevertheless, seeing any incremental uplift yet, and after LR2 demand from Venezuelan exports. I know you've spoken in the past to some just kind of illustrative numbers, like an additional one million barrels per day, equating to roughly 23 incremental vessels, but any update there would be great. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:32:02I mean, you know, I think, Venezuela. Yeah, yeah, why don't you go for it, then I can follow up afterwards? Yeah. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:32:09Yep, Tim, yeah, as you highlight, that, that's the math. I think so far we've seen about 300,000 barrels a day go to the U.S. The U.S. Gulf refining system is well designed for Venezuelan crude. We have the coking capacity that can turn this heavy stuff into distillate, which is good for margins and for exports. It's unclear whether all of this volume will go to the U.S. and how long production will take to increase in Venezuela. It varies, but I'd say on the margin, it's very positive. Lars? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:32:46Well, that's exactly what I would say as well. I mean, you know, at the margin, it's going to be very positive, with the ships that would have need to move, that are not in the sanctioned fleet. Tim ChiangEquity Research Associate at Bank of America00:32:59Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Operator00:33:04The next question comes from Chris Robertson with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Chris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:33:09Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. Just as a follow-up on the topic of Venezuela, what have you... We talked a bit about exports here, but what's the view around naphtha imports in terms of it being a diluent for the crude? Is that market picking up? Kind of how does that look right now with increased use of the mainstream fleet? And what did it look like beforehand in terms of those deliveries into the country? Was that on sanctioned vessels, or what's the dynamic there now? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:33:48To be honest, I think at the margin, it is not the thing that really is gonna change the Atlantic Basin product market on MRs in particular, which of course is the way that you would normally transport your naphtha into Venezuela. I think there's other things in the Atlantic Basin that has a lot greater kind of impact in terms of why the market is also strong. It just adds to the fire in the sense that it just is an additional positive. Chris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:34:19Got it. Okay, thank you, Lars. Turning towards just global inventory levels at the moment on the product side, James, I think you talked about this in the past. Any update around are inventories kind of remaining low and flat? Are they starting to pick up here and grow in OECD? What's the current status there? James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:34:40Sure. Thanks, Chris. Look, you know, you always have a buildup of inventories ahead of maintenance, so we, we've seen that, and the most up-to-date numbers we have are the U.S. distillate's still below the five-year average. It's been declining the last few weeks. You know, we've had cold weather, right? More heating oil demand and maintenance in the U.S. Gulf is just picking up. So we expect inventories to come in. OECD looks to be relatively in line. So I think from a product perspective, we haven't seen huge builds, which is great, as you go into maintenance, so we think things are gonna be tight. And so I think that's constructive. And then on the crude side, we were anticipating kind of large builds in the overall market that haven't happened. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:35:24A lot of that is due to a lot of the crude on water that's built up is really sanctioned. And if you recall, there's been these forecasts of up to four million barrels of crude oversupply. We haven't seen that yet. There have been disruptions in Kazakhstan, but overall, we think that, you know, the crude oversupply is gonna be less than anticipated, and I think that's very constructive because it speaks to how strong demand is in the global system. Chris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:35:51Thanks for that color, James. Really helpful. I'll turn it over. Thank you, guys. I appreciate the time. Operator00:35:59The next question comes from Liam Burke with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:36:03Yes, thank you. One of the macro lifts in the product tanker side has been the redistribution of global refinery capacity, and it's been a multi-year lift. Do you anticipate that continuing, or is that sort of bottomed out now? James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:36:27... Thanks, Liam. Well, look, we anticipate it to continue in the sense that there's about 300,000 barrels that are closing or part of that has closed in the West Coast, United States, for example, a Valero refinery and a Phillips 66 refinery. And as those refineries wind down in the next few months, that's 300,000 barrels, for example, that the California market needs. And if you speak to those oil and refining companies, they've highlighted that they're gonna import it from foreign markets. So in many ways, we haven't seen the benefit of those flows largely coming from Asia, and we still think there's gonna be more closures in developed markets as well, replacing that lost production. So this is gonna continue to go on for the foreseeable future. James DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor Relations at Scorpio Tankers00:37:12And then at the same time, as you kind of highlight with your question, emerging markets are not building much refining capacity. It takes, you know, a minimum of five, but probably seven years to build a refinery, and that hasn't started yet. So I think going forward, that's very constructive from a ton-mile demand perspective for us as well. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:37:33Great. Thanks, James. And on the fleet management, you've had a lot of activity in 2025, both on new builds and divestitures. You've got a $1 billion liquidity position. Is there any... and rates seem to be in a good place here. Is there any additional tweaking you need to do with the fleet, or you're happy with the assets in place, and your new build, and your liquidity? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:38:04We will, we are at present engaged in the secondhand market, and you should fully expect that we would, you know, sell assets, singular or plural, over, you know, a reasonably short time. And, you know, that sale and purchase market is super strong. I mean, perhaps, Emanuele, you might like to talk a little bit about that. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:38:39Sure. As you said, we continue to engage opportunistically on inbound inquiries on the existing fleet we have. And as we've done in 2025 and before that, we positively reply to inbound requests and engage in potentially selling further assets opportunistically. We are not working at anything specifically on the buy side, at present, but you know, we don't exclude substituting and renewing in a conservative way as we have done in the past quarters, as you have seen. The S&P market is very, very hot. There is a lot of interest for tankers. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:39:32What has happened in the last six to eight weeks in the crude tanker space has definitely attracted a lot of interest into the LR2s, as well as trickled down to the smaller size vessels up to MRs, I would say. You know, this is proven by the fact, as Lars has mentioned, I think, in his remarks earlier, there are about 220 LR2s trading clean today, which, you know, in order to see that little vessels number of vessels trading in the clean markets, we have to go back five, at least five years, right, to 2021. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:40:19So, this shows the level of interest and the hype that the crude market has, the long-awaited crude market momentum has captured in the last eight weeks and continues to do so. I mean, it's the level of interest is super high. Liam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley Securities00:40:39Great. Thank you very much. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:40:42Sure. Operator00:40:44Our last question comes from Kristoffer Skeie with Arctic Securities. Please go ahead. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:40:52Hey, guys. Good morning. Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. Just, first, with regards to Q1 bookings, can you elaborate a bit more on how your LR2 fleet is trading, dirty versus clean? And how would you think about bookings, on an open basis there? I mean, there's a $40,000 difference now on LR2s and Aframax. So, how do we think about that spread? Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:41:34Well, I think I'll go back to what I said initially, is that, you know, we look at these things opportunistically on every single day. But to look at it in a very kind of short backdrop is probably not the right thing to do. I think when we look at these things, considering the size and the number of ships that we have, we have to look at how we want to deploy these things. And one of the things we like to see is that as many owners have moved into dirty, and we've been talking about the number of clean ships back, I think constructively, that volatility will be an opportunity that we would want to control and take advantage of. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:42:10When you say that there's a 40,000 difference, I think that 40,000 difference is in a, in a very kind of insular market, on a particular week. We do not see 40,000 being the case over time. You know, if we look at it on a more normalized period, I think that if you look over the quarter, it's been around maybe $10,000 a day, which does not necessarily justify large-scale switching, quarter-on-quarter. That outperformance that you refer to is probably something we should look at on, on a longer perspective. I'll just say that our approach is always opportunistic when, when it comes to this. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:42:54But considering the ships that we have, the contracts that we have as well, with some of our key clients, we have to remain disciplined in terms of this. So, you know, I guess the key point is we dirty out when the econ is clearly justified. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:43:11Okay, understand. And just on term rates, we're seeing now VLCC, small VLCCs being done for one year at $90,000 a day. And it seems like LR2s are more or less flat, recent months. But if VLCC rates stay at $90,000, what would you say is a fair level that LR2s should be at? Do you see any upside potentially here? Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:43:45If I may, and then, Lars, please, jump in. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:43:48Sure. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:43:49But I think that LR2s have not, or Aframaxes, for that matter, have not remained flat. I think that today you can fix an Aframax/LR2 for one year in the high $40s. And there are the rates for three and five years, and the demand for three-and-five-year deals, which has come in strong and has been reconfirmed, which we've fixed a couple of ships for five years in Q4 last year. And today, those rates would be starting with a $3 for a five-year deal or comfortably with a $3 for a five-year deal. So, definitely the interest is there, and the rates have increased for our classes of vessels as well. Lars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial Officer at Scorpio Tankers00:44:47I'll just add that, you know, the market on LR2/Aframax has kind of relatively outperformed VLCCs. It's taken a while for the VLCCs to come, so it's, you know, we're very happy to see that the VLCC market finally is coming, really, to its own. And, and good for that, and it's gonna be great for the overall market. So, you know, we're happy to see that, you know, we are firing on all cylinders now. Kristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic Securities00:45:16Perfect. Thank you. That's it from me. Robert BugbeePresident at Scorpio Tankers00:45:19Yeah, I would also do... It's quite interesting. If you did a cash on cash return valuation between either, you know, the, where, where the product stocks are valuing the, vessels or even where the vessels are valued, their return on equity at the moment is, you know, every bit as strong as the VLCCs and a few in physical side. And in terms of stock side, obviously, you know, the returns for the product tankers are higher, as their stocks are selling at less of a premiums to NAV than the crude is. Operator00:46:03Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Lauro for any closing remarks. Emanuele LauroCEO at Scorpio Tankers00:46:15Thank you very much, operator. No closing remarks, other than thanking everybody for your time and attention today, and look forward to being in touch going forward. Thank you. Operator00:46:27Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesChris AvellaCFOEmanuele LauroCEOJames DoyleHead of Corporate Development and Investor RelationsLars Dencker NielsenChief Commercial OfficerRobert BugbeePresidentAnalystsChris RobertsonEquity Research Analyst at Deutsche BankGreg LewisManaging Director at BTIGKristoffer SkeieEquity Analyst at Arctic SecuritiesLiam BurkeManaging Director at B. Riley SecuritiesOmar NoktaManaging Director at Clarksons Platou SecuritiesTim ChiangEquity Research Associate at Bank of AmericaPowered by