OTCMKTS:NLST Netlist Q1 2026 Earnings Report $3.33 +0.27 (+8.70%) As of 01:30 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Netlist EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.03Consensus EPS -$0.01Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/ANetlist Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$104.89 millionExpected Revenue$79.00 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$25.89 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ANetlist Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2026Date5/12/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, May 12, 2026Conference Call Time12:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsNetlist's Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, August 6, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 12:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Netlist Q1 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 12, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Netlist posted record first-quarter revenue of $104.9 million, up 262% year over year, and said operating income improved by $18 million to $8.6 million. Positive Sentiment: Management said the memory market remains structurally undersupplied, with AI-driven demand and tight DRAM supply supporting pricing and demand across Netlist’s end markets. Neutral Sentiment: The company said its product mix was still heavily weighted toward resale business, with roughly 80% resale and just under 20% Netlist products in the quarter. Positive Sentiment: Netlist highlighted progress on higher-value product initiatives, including Lightning DDR5, CXL NVvault, and low-power MRDIMM solutions, with OEM sampling and qualification work continuing. Positive Sentiment: Management emphasized ongoing legal momentum, citing favorable patent rulings, supportive DOJ comments, and upcoming ITC and appellate milestones in its disputes with Samsung and related parties. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallNetlist Q1 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day. Welcome to the Netlist first quarter of 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode for the duration of the call. Should you need any assistance today, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw a question, please press star, then two. Please also note that this event is being recorded today. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Smargiassi, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Mike SmargiassiInvestor Relations Officer at The Plunkett Group00:00:38Thank you, Joe, and good day, everyone. Welcome to Netlist first quarter 2026 conference call. Leading today's call will be Chuck Hong, Chief Executive Officer of Netlist, and Gail Sasaki, Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, you can access the earnings release and a replay of today's call on the investor section of the Netlist website at netlist.com. Before we start the call, I would note that today's presentation of Netlist results and the answers to questions may include forward-looking statements, which are based on current expectations. The actual results could differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements because of the number of risks and uncertainties that are expressed in the call, annual and current SEC filings, and the cautionary statements contained in today's press release. Netlist assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to Chuck. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:01:40Thanks, Mike, and hello, everyone. We delivered a strong first quarter performance, achieving record quarterly revenue and a significant improvement in profitability. These results were driven by robust demand for our memory products and disciplined execution across the business. As we discussed on prior call, the memory market remains structurally undersupplied. AI-driven demand continues to accelerate while DRAM capacity remains constrained. This imbalance is rippling across the economy, from smartphones to data center servers. In Netlist markets, demand remains healthy across key end applications, even as supply stays tight across OEM and distribution channels. The outlook for memory remains favorable. Industry-wide supply constraints are expected to persist until new fabrication capacity comes online later next year, which could delay meaningful relief until 2029. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:02:52Analysts continue to expect pricing to rise through the rest of the year, though at a slower pace than the sharper increases seen in recent quarters. On the product side, our Lightning portfolio of overclock, low latency DDR5 RDIMMs and UDIMM solutions continue to ramp. We are progressing through qualifications with OEMs, particularly in high-frequency trading and high-performance computing space. We also continue to support industrial and networking customers with our DDR4-based custom solutions, and these accounted for a major portion of our revenues this quarter. On the next generation products, we're advancing CXL, NVDIMM and low power MRDIMM solutions. Our CXL NVvault is a CXL Type 3 persistent memory designed to extend memory class storage beyond the CPU socket while preserving low latency and data durability. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:04:06It provides a product that combine DRAM-like access with persistence through power events, addressing the growing performance and capacity needs of AI workloads. We continue to sample NVvaults with major OEMs on next generation platforms. Regarding our low power MRDIMM solution, we continue to be active in the development of this technology, which contains proprietary ECC protocols developed by Netlist, and we are looking to become the first supplier to bring the benefits of low-power DRAM into the server space, which is very sensitive. The data centers in particular are sensitive to power concerns. On the IP front, we continue to advance the defense of Netlist patents and multiple favorable jury verdicts in our appellate process. As you know, Netlist is seeking exclusion and cease and desist orders against Samsung, Google, and Supermicro at the ITC. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:05:35A favorable ruling would block the importation of Samsung products that infringe our patents and cease and desist of commercial activities by Google and Supermicro, which involve Samsung memory products. The Markman hearing was held on April 21st, and our legal team performed very well. We look forward to the Markman order and to the start of trial this fall. Netlist has asserted the 366, 731, 608, 523, 035, and 087 patents at the ITC. These patents cover one or more products, including DDR5 memory modules such as RDIMM, UDIMM, SO-DIMM, and MRDIMM, as well as high-bandwidth memory, HBM. In 2025, the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit affirmed the validity of our 608 and 523 patents upholding the PTAB's IPR decision. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:06:37Last month, the USPTO also denied both Samsung's IPR and PGR challenges to our 366 patent, which covers DDR5 module power management technology. These outcomes further validate the strength of our IP and puts us in a favorable position in the ITC case. As a footnote, the 366 patent is also asserted in our 2025 Eastern District of Texas action against Samsung, Micron, and Avnet. On March 6th, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit heard oral arguments on Samsung's appeal of the Eastern District of Texas 2023 jury verdict, which awarded Netlist $303 million for willful damages of five patents. The court also heard Netlist's appeal involving IPR challenges to the 339, 918, 054, 060, and 160 patents asserted in that case. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:07:46The court will issue decisions in due course. In our breach of contract case against Samsung, briefing is expected to conclude this summer, and we remain on track for a hearing before the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit later this year. In addition, we currently expect Fifth Circuit oral arguments related to the IPRs of 912, 417, 215 patents in the coming months. In April, the United States Department of Justice filed a public interest comment in the Samsung v. Netlist case in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware. The statement addressed standard essential patents, antitrust, and market power issues and supported Netlist's positions. This marks the second DOJ statement of interest in the past six months that have been supportive of Netlist in matters involving Samsung. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:08:51These comments underscore the administration's support for U.S. innovation and the enforcement of U.S. patent rights. In summary, we delivered a strong first quarter and remain positioned, well-positioned in the current market environment as we scale our product business and advance our IP strategy. We continue to secure validation of our patents and the strength of these patents, and we continue to pursue vigorous enforcement actions covering next-generation DDR5 and HBM technologies that are foundational to AI computing. Now I'll turn the call over to Gail for the financial review. Gail SasakiCFO at Netlist00:09:32Okay. Thanks, Chuck. We delivered a strong top and bottom line performance in the first quarter. Revenue was $104.9 million, an increase of 262% as compared to the first quarter of 2025. Results reflect the strength of the current industry environment, a combination of tight memory supply, accelerating demand, and rising DRAM prices, which supported both revenue and gross profit margin improvement. Operating expense declined as a percentage of revenue and reflected continued investment in R&D and SG&A to support revenue growth. Operating income was $8.6 million, an improvement of $18 million compared to the first quarter of 2025. Subsequent to the end of the first quarter, we received ten and a half million dollars in proceeds from the cash exercise of issued and outstanding warrants. Gail SasakiCFO at Netlist00:10:34As of May 8th, 2026, and based on information available today, Netlist estimates that its cash equivalents, and restricted cash on that day to be $37.5 million. With a $10 million working capital line of credit and approximately $74 million available on the equity line of credit, we continue to maintain significant financial flexibility and liquidity. As always, we manage the operational cash cycle very carefully. Day sales outstanding improved by three and a half days year-over-year. Overall, our cash cycle remains well below 30 days, currently at 16 days during the first quarter of 2026. Operator, we are now ready for questions. Operator00:11:40At this time, we will take our first question from Suji Desilva with Roth Capital. Please go ahead. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:11:46Hi, Chuck. Hi, Gail. Congratulations on the strong quarter here. Can you help us understand in the revenue the composition of resale products revenue versus Netlist products to understand that dynamic? Gail SasakiCFO at Netlist00:12:00Sure. It's been about the same as last quarter, Suji. I think it's, you know, like 80% resale and a little under 20% of Netlist products. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:12:14Got it. That's helpful. Thanks. Chuck, in the data center, you talked about putting low power DRAM into servers. I'm curious, that trend, has that already been underway? Is that kicking off now? What kind of shape would you expect the mix to grow? Maybe there's more of a focus on power efficiency or things like that. Any color there would be helpful. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:12:41There has been some movement towards bringing low power DRAM, which we use in, for example, in laptops and mobile phones, to replace some of the high power server grade DRAMs that are going into data centers. The problem with the low power DRAMs is it does not have error correction. The memory that we use on, in phones, it doesn't have error correction. It takes a lot of work to make those DRAMs more robust, using ECC technology, which we have, to be allowed to use those low power DRAMs and get to a level of robustness, reliability in server applications. If you can do that, the low power DRAMs are obviously much lower power, significant lower power. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:13:48There is also it's much cheaper. We've been working at this for a number of years now, and we've got a unique solution that we're, you know, we're working with some of the hyperscalers. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:14:05That's great. That's great. Helpful to understand what it takes to get there. Lastly, just on litigation, maybe you could kind of recap for us, Chuck, what are the next milestones we should be watching for across the various cases? Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:14:20As I stated in the prepared remarks, there's a lot of appellate activity. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:14:34-coming up this year. We've already had the appellate hearing, and we'll get a decision hopefully sometime later this year. We'll have appellate, probably four or five appellate cases, from now until the end of the year. Those will likely be final decisions. Appellate rulings of the district court verdicts that we had and PTAB decisions that we had on the patents. Those will likely be final because it's unlikely that the Supreme Court would take up any of these cases. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:15:19We're looking forward to the decisions on those. Probably more imminent are the ITC cases against Samsung, Google and Super Micro, which is progressing smoothly for us. We've, we believe, we came out on top in the Markman hearing. Things are going well in that case, and that will go to trial sometime later this year. In the fall. It's scheduled for the fall right now. You know, things are going smoothly. You know, we're looking at other parties that are utilizing our patents without a license. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:16:20We'll be looking to enforce our patent rights against a number of other parties that are unlicensed and are implementing our technology in the AI memory space. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:16:38Okay. Appreciate the recap, Chuck. Thanks. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:16:41Thanks, Chuck. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day. Welcome to the Netlist first quarter of 2026 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode for the duration of the call. Should you need any assistance today, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw a question, please press star, then two. Please also note that this event is being recorded today. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Smargiassi, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Mike SmargiassiInvestor Relations Officer at The Plunkett Group00:00:38Thank you, Joe, and good day, everyone. Welcome to Netlist first quarter 2026 conference call. Leading today's call will be Chuck Hong, Chief Executive Officer of Netlist, and Gail Sasaki, Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, you can access the earnings release and a replay of today's call on the investor section of the Netlist website at netlist.com. Before we start the call, I would note that today's presentation of Netlist results and the answers to questions may include forward-looking statements, which are based on current expectations. The actual results could differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements because of the number of risks and uncertainties that are expressed in the call, annual and current SEC filings, and the cautionary statements contained in today's press release. Netlist assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to Chuck. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:01:40Thanks, Mike, and hello, everyone. We delivered a strong first quarter performance, achieving record quarterly revenue and a significant improvement in profitability. These results were driven by robust demand for our memory products and disciplined execution across the business. As we discussed on prior call, the memory market remains structurally undersupplied. AI-driven demand continues to accelerate while DRAM capacity remains constrained. This imbalance is rippling across the economy, from smartphones to data center servers. In Netlist markets, demand remains healthy across key end applications, even as supply stays tight across OEM and distribution channels. The outlook for memory remains favorable. Industry-wide supply constraints are expected to persist until new fabrication capacity comes online later next year, which could delay meaningful relief until 2029. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:02:52Analysts continue to expect pricing to rise through the rest of the year, though at a slower pace than the sharper increases seen in recent quarters. On the product side, our Lightning portfolio of overclock, low latency DDR5 RDIMMs and UDIMM solutions continue to ramp. We are progressing through qualifications with OEMs, particularly in high-frequency trading and high-performance computing space. We also continue to support industrial and networking customers with our DDR4-based custom solutions, and these accounted for a major portion of our revenues this quarter. On the next generation products, we're advancing CXL, NVDIMM and low power MRDIMM solutions. Our CXL NVvault is a CXL Type 3 persistent memory designed to extend memory class storage beyond the CPU socket while preserving low latency and data durability. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:04:06It provides a product that combine DRAM-like access with persistence through power events, addressing the growing performance and capacity needs of AI workloads. We continue to sample NVvaults with major OEMs on next generation platforms. Regarding our low power MRDIMM solution, we continue to be active in the development of this technology, which contains proprietary ECC protocols developed by Netlist, and we are looking to become the first supplier to bring the benefits of low-power DRAM into the server space, which is very sensitive. The data centers in particular are sensitive to power concerns. On the IP front, we continue to advance the defense of Netlist patents and multiple favorable jury verdicts in our appellate process. As you know, Netlist is seeking exclusion and cease and desist orders against Samsung, Google, and Supermicro at the ITC. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:05:35A favorable ruling would block the importation of Samsung products that infringe our patents and cease and desist of commercial activities by Google and Supermicro, which involve Samsung memory products. The Markman hearing was held on April 21st, and our legal team performed very well. We look forward to the Markman order and to the start of trial this fall. Netlist has asserted the 366, 731, 608, 523, 035, and 087 patents at the ITC. These patents cover one or more products, including DDR5 memory modules such as RDIMM, UDIMM, SO-DIMM, and MRDIMM, as well as high-bandwidth memory, HBM. In 2025, the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit affirmed the validity of our 608 and 523 patents upholding the PTAB's IPR decision. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:06:37Last month, the USPTO also denied both Samsung's IPR and PGR challenges to our 366 patent, which covers DDR5 module power management technology. These outcomes further validate the strength of our IP and puts us in a favorable position in the ITC case. As a footnote, the 366 patent is also asserted in our 2025 Eastern District of Texas action against Samsung, Micron, and Avnet. On March 6th, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit heard oral arguments on Samsung's appeal of the Eastern District of Texas 2023 jury verdict, which awarded Netlist $303 million for willful damages of five patents. The court also heard Netlist's appeal involving IPR challenges to the 339, 918, 054, 060, and 160 patents asserted in that case. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:07:46The court will issue decisions in due course. In our breach of contract case against Samsung, briefing is expected to conclude this summer, and we remain on track for a hearing before the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit later this year. In addition, we currently expect Fifth Circuit oral arguments related to the IPRs of 912, 417, 215 patents in the coming months. In April, the United States Department of Justice filed a public interest comment in the Samsung v. Netlist case in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware. The statement addressed standard essential patents, antitrust, and market power issues and supported Netlist's positions. This marks the second DOJ statement of interest in the past six months that have been supportive of Netlist in matters involving Samsung. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:08:51These comments underscore the administration's support for U.S. innovation and the enforcement of U.S. patent rights. In summary, we delivered a strong first quarter and remain positioned, well-positioned in the current market environment as we scale our product business and advance our IP strategy. We continue to secure validation of our patents and the strength of these patents, and we continue to pursue vigorous enforcement actions covering next-generation DDR5 and HBM technologies that are foundational to AI computing. Now I'll turn the call over to Gail for the financial review. Gail SasakiCFO at Netlist00:09:32Okay. Thanks, Chuck. We delivered a strong top and bottom line performance in the first quarter. Revenue was $104.9 million, an increase of 262% as compared to the first quarter of 2025. Results reflect the strength of the current industry environment, a combination of tight memory supply, accelerating demand, and rising DRAM prices, which supported both revenue and gross profit margin improvement. Operating expense declined as a percentage of revenue and reflected continued investment in R&D and SG&A to support revenue growth. Operating income was $8.6 million, an improvement of $18 million compared to the first quarter of 2025. Subsequent to the end of the first quarter, we received ten and a half million dollars in proceeds from the cash exercise of issued and outstanding warrants. Gail SasakiCFO at Netlist00:10:34As of May 8th, 2026, and based on information available today, Netlist estimates that its cash equivalents, and restricted cash on that day to be $37.5 million. With a $10 million working capital line of credit and approximately $74 million available on the equity line of credit, we continue to maintain significant financial flexibility and liquidity. As always, we manage the operational cash cycle very carefully. Day sales outstanding improved by three and a half days year-over-year. Overall, our cash cycle remains well below 30 days, currently at 16 days during the first quarter of 2026. Operator, we are now ready for questions. Operator00:11:40At this time, we will take our first question from Suji Desilva with Roth Capital. Please go ahead. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:11:46Hi, Chuck. Hi, Gail. Congratulations on the strong quarter here. Can you help us understand in the revenue the composition of resale products revenue versus Netlist products to understand that dynamic? Gail SasakiCFO at Netlist00:12:00Sure. It's been about the same as last quarter, Suji. I think it's, you know, like 80% resale and a little under 20% of Netlist products. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:12:14Got it. That's helpful. Thanks. Chuck, in the data center, you talked about putting low power DRAM into servers. I'm curious, that trend, has that already been underway? Is that kicking off now? What kind of shape would you expect the mix to grow? Maybe there's more of a focus on power efficiency or things like that. Any color there would be helpful. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:12:41There has been some movement towards bringing low power DRAM, which we use in, for example, in laptops and mobile phones, to replace some of the high power server grade DRAMs that are going into data centers. The problem with the low power DRAMs is it does not have error correction. The memory that we use on, in phones, it doesn't have error correction. It takes a lot of work to make those DRAMs more robust, using ECC technology, which we have, to be allowed to use those low power DRAMs and get to a level of robustness, reliability in server applications. If you can do that, the low power DRAMs are obviously much lower power, significant lower power. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:13:48There is also it's much cheaper. We've been working at this for a number of years now, and we've got a unique solution that we're, you know, we're working with some of the hyperscalers. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:14:05That's great. That's great. Helpful to understand what it takes to get there. Lastly, just on litigation, maybe you could kind of recap for us, Chuck, what are the next milestones we should be watching for across the various cases? Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:14:20As I stated in the prepared remarks, there's a lot of appellate activity. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:14:34-coming up this year. We've already had the appellate hearing, and we'll get a decision hopefully sometime later this year. We'll have appellate, probably four or five appellate cases, from now until the end of the year. Those will likely be final decisions. Appellate rulings of the district court verdicts that we had and PTAB decisions that we had on the patents. Those will likely be final because it's unlikely that the Supreme Court would take up any of these cases. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:15:19We're looking forward to the decisions on those. Probably more imminent are the ITC cases against Samsung, Google and Super Micro, which is progressing smoothly for us. We've, we believe, we came out on top in the Markman hearing. Things are going well in that case, and that will go to trial sometime later this year. In the fall. It's scheduled for the fall right now. You know, things are going smoothly. You know, we're looking at other parties that are utilizing our patents without a license. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:16:20We'll be looking to enforce our patent rights against a number of other parties that are unlicensed and are implementing our technology in the AI memory space. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:16:38Okay. Appreciate the recap, Chuck. Thanks. Suji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital Partners00:16:41Thanks, Chuck. Thanks, Gail. Chuck HongCEO at Netlist00:16:42Thank you. Operator00:16:46This concludes our question and answer session, along with today's conference call. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesChuck HongCEOGail SasakiCFOAnalystsMike SmargiassiInvestor Relations Officer at The Plunkett GroupSuji DesilvaAnalyst at Roth Capital PartnersPowered by