LON:BMY Bloomsbury Publishing H2 2026 Earnings Report GBX 632.41 -3.59 (-0.56%) As of 11:59 AM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Bloomsbury Publishing EPS ResultsActual EPSGBX 45Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ABloomsbury Publishing Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$325.90 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABloomsbury Publishing Announcement DetailsQuarterH2 2026Date5/20/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, May 20, 2026Conference Call Time4:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Bloomsbury Publishing H2 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 20, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: FY 2026 profits rose 7% to £44.9 million, with EPS up 8% to 44.57p and the dividend increased 5%, extending Bloomsbury’s 31-year track record of uninterrupted dividend growth. Positive Sentiment: The company said its academic and professional division doubled profit to £25 million on revenues of £108 million, driven by digital sales, including the AI licensing agreement. Positive Sentiment: Management highlighted a strong consumer outlook, led by two new Sarah J. Maas books, continued strength in Harry Potter, and upcoming media tie-ins including the HBO Harry Potter series and other screen adaptations. Positive Sentiment: Bloomsbury said the AI licensing deal remains ongoing into FY 2026-2027 and could expand further as more authors and titles are added, making it a potential recurring revenue stream for years. Neutral Sentiment: The company reported stronger operational cash generation and working-capital discipline, including a net cash position of £29 million and a more than 20% reduction in finished stock, while noting the balance can fluctuate seasonally. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBloomsbury Publishing H2 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and a very warm welcome to this live session here at Hudson Sandler and Charterhouse Square in London, and also to all of our viewers online of the London Stock Exchange video. I'm very pleased to greet you. I'm Nigel Newton, Founder and Chief Executive of Bloomsbury, and I am joined by Keith Underwood, Chief Financial and Operating Officer recently appointed by us. If I can move on to the first slide, please, of highlights, we make the points that our portfolio of portfolios has been a resilient model through consumer and academic publishing. This makes us very rare, if not unique, in our industry and is the basis of the good numbers that we're able to report to you today because, like our shareholders on the public markets, we are not dependent on one type of revenue stream. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:01:10We're exposed to both the consumer on the high street and the main street. At the same time to the huge institutional buying power of tens of billions of dollars worldwide in academic libraries. Profits are up 7% to GBP 44.9 million. That is great because it's been the basis of the dividend being up 5%. We shall point out on a slide some of you are familiar with the 31-year unbroken track record of Bloomsbury dividend growth. Hurra. We have an AI licensing agreement that we announced in July that I'm very pleased to tell you is ongoing in financial year 2026-2027. Completely separately from that, we announced in December a partnership with Google on a number of tools that are being implemented throughout Bloomsbury to all 1,250 of our colleagues. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:02:32We are creating the Bloomsbury Brain that will ultimately read in its secured off-from-the-internet walled garden a database of every word that we've ever published that we can utilize in so many different ways to make future decisions based on the evidence of the past. What to publish, how much to pay for books, how many copies to print of books, and many other things. We have streamlined and simplified our operating structure, which will have an effect on our financial performance, and a good one. You have two choices, really, in a business. A matrix structure or a vertical structure. Though the matrix has served us very well, we've moved from the one to the other with all kinds of changes in how we sell. For example, in America, we sold through a third party, Macmillan Publishing Services. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:03:42We've now recruited a dynamic team of our own key account managers selling direct for the first time to our very big customers over there. This new structure will benefit us enormously. As you will see, we have a very strong consumer front list in the year ahead, including remarkably not one but two new Sarah J. Maas novels. The board has strong confidence in delivering a record profit in line with recently upgraded expectations for the year 2026-2027. The board is strengthened with the appointment not only of Keith Underwood but of my colleague Jenny Ridout, who is the managing director of Bloomsbury Academic & Professional, now including with responsibility for sales, marketing, and publicity in the new structure, following in the footsteps of previous leaders at Bloomsbury Academic being on the PLC board, Richard Charkin, and later Jonathan Glasspool. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:04:56We also have a third appointment as a non-executive director, Chris Blatchford, a very brilliant man with considerable expertise as a Chief Technology Officer. He had, was it, 800 data scientists reporting to him at our academic competitor Elsevier within RELX. It presently holds this high office for Kingfisher PLC. We are very pleased, indeed, to have his expertise, which is granular and tactical as well as strategic, at a time when the world is becoming increasingly digital, and Bloomsbury wants to be at the forefront of all change that will benefit us. You didn't have long to wait for that. It looks like an urban landscape of skyscrapers leading to this big jump in the dividend just announced. Next slide, please. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:06:21Well, good morning, everyone. I am really pleased to be here and delighted to be presenting robust results for Bloomsbury and a really, really strong outlook. Bloomsbury's investment case is one of strong shareholder returns, as you can see from the earlier slide, derived from a diversified portfolio across academic and consumer publishing, across print and digital, and from an increasingly international footprint. Organic growth has been supplemented by 34 carefully selected and skillfully integrated acquisitions, with the most recent one being the GBP 65 million acquisition of Rowman & Littlefield, which was conducted in May 2024. In terms of the highlights, we're reporting robust results. FY 2026 profit is GBP 44.9 million. That's a margin of 13.8%, which is up 210 basis points from 11.7% in the previous year. As we'll come on to show, that growth has been driven by digital sales within our academic and professional business. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:07:26As expected, total revenue is down year-on-year given the strong comparative that we had in the consumer division in the prior year. EPS is up 8% to 44.57p. We've continued, as Nigel said, our outstanding track record of unbroken dividend growth. We have a strong balance sheet, as you can see. Total net assets are broadly flat at GBP 216 million. Within working capital, we've worked really hard to basically reduce our finished stock balances by over 20% to GBP 35 million. We've continued to drive operational efficiencies from new distribution partners. Our net cash position has improved from GBP 17 million to GBP 29 million, that consists of cash of GBP 44 million and a net debt or a debt balance of GBP 15 million. This slide just bridges that cash flow movement. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:08:29The closing net cash balance of GBP 29 million, well, that will draw down, as you've seen in previous years, that will draw down in the first half of the year and then build up in the second half, particularly given the second half weighting of our consumer list. Our capital allocation priorities are very much focused on internal investment to drive organic growth, debt reduction, dividends, and where appropriate, bolt-on acquisitions. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:08:57Consumer. The consumer division had, as you recall, an extremely strong comparative but achieved revenue of GBP 218 million and a profit of GBP 20.5 million with a margin of 9%. On the next slide, you can see the great diversification of our consumer portfolio continuing to shine through with a real breadth of critical and commercial success across many different genres. In romantasy, Sarah J. Maas returned to the bestseller list in 2025 with the release of the paperback of The House of Flame and Shadow, and her fans are thrilled that she is now releasing two books in the Court of Thorns and Roses series in the year ahead. In the U.S., Renée Watson won the Newbery Medal for the New York Times bestseller All the Blues in the Sky. J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series remains in the top 10. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:10:14The TV serialization of Harry Potter will be launched at Christmas, helping to introduce the series to a whole new generation of children over the coming years. In nonfiction, Gillian Anderson's Want in paperback was in the top 10 on The Sunday Times bestseller list for 22 weeks, including nine weeks in the number one spot. In children's, our bestselling author Katherine Rundell announced a long-term film deal with Walt Disney Studios, which will significantly boost her already bestselling Impossible Creatures series, the next volume of which is due out in August. We have also had continued success in fantasy from Samantha Shannon and in cookery from Poppy O'Toole, both of whom have new books coming in this year too. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:11:20Okay, on to Academic and Professional. Academic and Professional had a strong year with revenues of GBP 108 million and profits doubling to GBP 25 million. Growth was driven, as you can see, by digital sales, which included the AI licensing deal, which was announced earlier in the year. Print revenues during the year were stable. Year-on-year, all revenue streams, that's print, digital, and other, increased in the second half. I'm very pleased to say that in the financial year-to-date, we've seen really good growth in all territories. As I say, Academic and Professional has benefited from the AI licensing agreement, and we are pleased to say that this is ongoing into 2026-2027 as more authors opt in and more titles are added to that framework deal. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:12:06The integration of Rowman & Littlefield is now substantially complete, and significant progress is being made on digitalizing the high-quality portfolio that we were able to bring in as a result of that deal. We've also expanded our business in Asia, opening a base in Singapore to further capitalize on the growth in the student population in the region, building upon the success of our established offices in Australia and also in India. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:12:35The upcoming year has an array of potential bestsellers, as you can see behind me, from our incredibly strong, stable, our portfolio, if you like, of great general authors from Sarah J. Maas, Gillian Anderson, Samantha Shannon, Katherine Rundell, J.K. Rowling, Peter Frankopan, Ann Patchett, Louise Kennedy, Dan Jones, Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, and Poppy O'Toole. In addition, Stephen Graham, who you know, the great actor in the series of Adolescence, has compiled a book of letters called Letters to Our Sons, which we feel privileged to be publishing. Looking to our innovative publishing of the Harry Potter series, we are publishing Pocket Potters with a book per character and the next of the illustrated editions quite separately, which is nicely timed to benefit from the huge opportunity of the HBO series launching at Christmas. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:13:48Moving to the next slide of summary and outlook, you can see that the Bloomsbury portfolio of portfolios strategy has created a resilient and successful business model. The major reorganization of our company, which we announced in April, is already providing greater agility, and we will be in great shape to harness growth opportunities. We have, as you have seen, a strong publishing list for the year ahead with exciting major releases and, in particular, what we call there the two major events of the new Sarah Maas titles and of the new movies in the HBO TV series. In addition, there are further TV releases to come. Netflix are making a second series of The Three-Body Problem, the trilogy which did so well for us a couple of years ago. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:15:02Our wonderful late author Anthony Bourdain, Netflix have made a very powerful series about Tony as a young man when he's deciding what to do with his life and falls into cookery, where he rises to the eminence that he did and that he was able to write up in Kitchen Confidential that was a complete worldwide bestseller. The film to look out for in the summer is called Tony. Putting all of these factors together, the board has strong confidence in delivering a record profit in this new financial year, 2026-2027, in line with recently upgraded expectations. Company Representative at Bloomsbury00:16:08Well, Hi, everyone. That's just fantastic. Special thanks from those tables gathered around Table 49 over there who made this possible. Thank you, colleagues. We have strengthened our wonderful list of authors to this point today. Video Narrator00:21:43[Presentation] Company Representative at Bloomsbury00:22:15Recent global rankings have highlighted the strong and well-deserved rise of Asian universities. This growth, in turn, is increasing demand for high-quality academic content, digital resources, innovative learning and teaching tools. We are sending a clear signal of our long-term commitment to the region. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:24:08Thank you very much. Do you have any questions? How marvelous. You're the nearest. Will LloydAnalyst at Berenberg00:24:18Thanks very much for the presentation. Will Lloyd from Berenberg. Firstly, just on the AI licensing, obviously benefit in 2027 from additional authors opting in. I'm just wondering if you could quantify how many authors have sort of opted in, to give us an indication of how much further runway there is for the AI licensing deal. Secondly, on academic, you talk about it sort of getting back to growth. I'm just wondering if you could share some more information, any more color on what you mean exactly by back to growth, market conditions versus the go-to-market strategy that you've put in place. Finally, just in terms of the Harry Potter HBO series, obviously you've got Pocket Potters coming out and the illustrated sixth book. What else are you doing in terms of the strategy around pre-release? Are you looking at resleeving the books, etc.? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:25:12Well, I'll take the first and the third if I remember them. Keith, you can kindly take the middle. What was the first question? Will LloydAnalyst at Berenberg00:25:23About further runway in academic licensing. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:25:28It was a wonderful exercise contacting all of our academic authors to see if they wished to be part of this or not, some of whom we hadn't been in contact with for a long time. Even some new books eventuated from that. We haven't identified the number. It's still ongoing. We've been very pleased. I think that if you imagine if you were given a choice whether to have your life work trained on by AI, you might find your view changed almost month by month. Academics are no exception. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:26:13As we all get to grips with the extraordinary power and benefits of AI, as well as the much publicized fears and potential negative aspects of it, the one thing that is absolutely clear is that the better trained the AI models are, the better the answers that the whole world is going to receive will be. There's a reason why AI companies have focused on academic content, one of which is that most academic monographs and other works are peer-reviewed by up to five or six leading academics in that field. This is really gold standard information that they're training on. Second question. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:27:13Shall I take the second? In terms of the growth in A&P revenues, I think when in the first half presentations, when I think I was the other side of the table, actually, we ended up reporting on the challenges in the first half of the year. Second half of the year, Will, we've seen as we reported good growth across all territories, across all formats, which has been particularly encouraging. That growth has continued into the opening part of this year where we've again seen growth in all territories. Really encouraging that from our existing customer base and also from new customers with big deals coming in. That's I mean, we're early on in the financial year, but certainly very encouraging. In terms of the year itself, we also saw year-on-year growth in BDR as well during the year. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:27:57Yeah, encouraging signs, but it's obviously early in the year. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:28:01That was two. You can do the third as a bonus. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:28:04Remind me, Will, number three. Will LloydAnalyst at Berenberg00:28:06It was a strategy around the HBO release of Harry Potter at Christmas, just sort of what else we're doing. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:28:12Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. We'll have to wait and see exactly what we're going to do. That's a work in progress. Suffice it to say that when the Warner Bros. films came out starting from about 2000, Bloomsbury really capitalized on that moment and opened up the market from what I think then would have been called a ABC1 market to a C2, D3 market, reaching literally hundreds of thousands of new customers who were new to the series, only alerted to it really by the movies rather than the books, and largely reached through supermarkets and mass merchandising retailers, by far our largest customer when the movies came out was Tesco. If you're doing things right, Tesco should be your largest customer for any product. Watch this space. Alistair. Analyst00:29:32Thanks very much. Three from me. Keith, obviously sort of quite early in your tenure, but any sort of initial reflections on sort of what surprised you for better or worse, if anything at all? Secondly, obviously we touched on there's an HBO sort of series around Harry Potter. With Sarah J. Maas, I think she mentioned midway through the podcast, she'd just managed to get all of her TV and movie rights back. Anything you're sort of hearing on the grapevine on when they might get used? Lastly, just to sort of expand on the topic of AI licensing, any more talks with other providers that you might be in and any sort of learnings from the first deal that might be useful as and when you go through that process? Thanks. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:30:17Will, I won't take the first question about Keith's first impressions. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:30:23Yeah, I'm happy to take that, actually. I mean, look, it's been a really eventful start, really energizing start. I joined the business seeing that growth trajectory that you've all seen and that you've all benefited from and just really energized to join a business that's got that sort of mindset, that ability to really develop, nurture new talent, and then bring that to market. That's what I wanted to join for. I also saw huge potential within the business as well. I think on being on the inside of that's been absolutely reaffirmed in what we've been able to do and the plans we've been able to set forth for the future years. I mean, really quickly on, we've been able to move at pace with a restructure within the business. As we've reported, that's going to increase the agility of the business. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:31:07It's going to increase accountability as we move to a vertical structure. Really, it's going to improve financial performance going forward. I would say from my side, that's a good first step and a good start. I'm also really excited about the tech deployment as well that we can do within the business. Nigel mentioned the Bloomsbury Brain. I think that's hugely interesting in terms of what that can do for our ability to drive semantic search across our titles, bringing that out for internal promotional opportunities, but also for driving external demand across our customer base. I think that's a real opportunity. Internally as well, the way in which we can deploy it are, I mean, obvious use cases in terms of sales demand forecasting, guidance notes in terms of cost management, and also stock management and print runs as well. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:31:56I mean, the use cases are really obvious, very clear, and high value. That potential just is massively energizing. I mean, I observe it from the outside and have now been nearly four months in. It's a great management team. We move at pace to capture opportunities. I'm delighted to be a part of the team. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:32:16We're thrilled to have Keith with us. He was instrumental in our restructure only months into his arrival. Alistair, your second question was about HBO film rights. Analyst00:32:32Whether Sarah J. Maas, I think she talked about having got her rights back. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:32:37Yes. Analyst00:32:37Anything on the grapevine about those? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:32:40There is no news to report. It's her news to report. She'll do so when she's ready. Suffice it to say that when she does, I think it will be the most extraordinarily successful streaming series that one can possibly imagine other than Harry Potter. Your third question was about AI licensing. Analyst00:33:09Any more coming? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:33:10Well, we are in contact with all of the LLMs that you've heard of. I think it would be true to say that they've got their acts together in varying degrees. Of course, many of them have no interest in licensing content whatsoever. Why pay for what you can steal? Bloomsbury were very much part of a campaign by the Publishers Association and the Society of Authors at the London Book Fair called Don't Steal This Book to encourage the U.K. government to not create a so-called commercial research exception that would have been a backdoor for LLMs to get content legally without paying for it. Fortunately, at the moment, what they're doing is illegal. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:34:13You will all be aware of the GBP 1.5 billion settlement in the Anthropic versus Bartz case in the San Francisco Northern District Court, which is just going through the final stage of validation, assuming that all goes according to plan. GBP 1.5 billion will be divided among many authors, publishers, and of course, the lawyers. Bloomsbury will be a substantial beneficiary. That is something that we haven't taken into account in anything that we've said because you don't do you until it's happened. That is the first of not the first, but it's one of many cases. The Association of American Publishers announced further law cases only two weeks ago against other household names in the LLM area. I think it will become increasingly clear that licensing content is cheaper for LLMs than stealing it. We are only dealing with people who are good faith actors. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:35:55Moreover, once you have a contract, you have guardrails in place to safeguard the amount of your content that can be used, which isn't very much, and the citations that are required and a whole host of things that lead to the kind of organized marketplace that perhaps we saw some time ago when the Napster moment was ended and then paid for streaming became the force that it is now with Spotify and many other players. We hope for increased order in the AI training market. Analyst00:36:40Just to follow up, would you be tempted to. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:36:42That's a fourth question. Analyst00:36:45Part B. Would you be tempted to license your consumer content in the sort of way that I think HarperCollins did? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:36:51Not at the moment, no. Nor is there much interest in that. I would be interested to know the takeup in other publishers who've done it. I believe I mentioned earlier the benefits of academic content where their peer-reviewed gold status is considerable. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:37:18Just to add that, Alistair, if I may as well, I mean, having done a series of these deals at other organizations and coming in, observing the partnership that's been set up with the provider, I mean, it's an impressive partnership. The breadth of it as well is really impressive. Yeah, I'm optimistic of more. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:37:39Hi. Jessica PokAnalyst at Peel Hunt00:37:40Hi. It's Jessica Pok from Peel Hunt. Three questions, please. First, I'm just going back to the details of the deal. Obviously, you go upside from more authors opting in. Can you just help us understand what does the deal mean for future publications from the authors or even the authors who have already opted in? Is it just the publications that they've already published? What does it mean for kind of future titles? The second thing. Okay. Secondly, just on Asia, can you give an update in terms of where you are with that and any green shoots, early green shoots? Then just the final one, can you help us understand I mean, this first Sarah J. Maas book is coming out in October. How early do you see the demand in the pre-orders in terms of size and magnitude? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:38:45Go for it. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:38:47In terms of the authors opting in was your first question and how that works. Authors opt in generally. What we've got, though, is the way in which the framework deal works is it's on a title-by-title batch basis. You asked about Asia? Jessica PokAnalyst at Peel Hunt00:39:10Sorry. Yes. Asia. Progress in Asia. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:39:12Yeah. Really early days at the moment in terms of Asia. We're seeing good cut-through in terms of the market. A lot of interesting conversations ongoing, particularly in the academic and professional market as well where the teams are growing well. It's an area of real opportunity for us as I look at the market growth. I mean, we've already talked about the huge explosion in terms of student numbers, that area we want to move into. Actually, in terms of academic and professional more generally, we're looking at building out the content proposition, building out the format base, and the territorial footprint as well. Certainly, the Singapore base provides us with a really good opportunity to do that. Sarah J. Maas, pre-orders, Nigel, did you want to take that? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:39:57Extraordinary. They're very high. Virtually, if we start with America, which is her biggest market, virtually every major retailer, including non-book outlets that sell some books mass merchandise retailers see this as one of the biggest products that they will sell this holiday season in the case of the first book in October and then following rapidly on in January. There are two kinds of pre-orders, actually. There are those placed by customers direct with retailers, people getting in their early order of the new books on, say, the Barnes & Noble website or whatever it may be. Those are higher than we've ever seen before. Secondly, there's the orders of the retailers themselves. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:41:08We have all of those in now or not all of them, but almost all of them because we need them to fix the very considerable print runs that we will have for these books. I can say that I've never seen quite such robust support from the entire retail base in America as we are seeing with these two books. In addition, the same thing is being replicated quite spectacularly in English-language markets all over the world. I think it's going to be extraordinary. Jessica PokAnalyst at Peel Hunt00:41:54Can I just follow up on the first question? On the AI deal, if it's book by book, then in theory, for future releases, can we assume there could be a benefit flowing after FY 2027 into 2028 because the authors are using it? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:42:13You should definitely assume that. There's nothing for us to confirm to you evidentially. The permission that we sought from our authors was for their full body of work. We neither named a specific title by them if they had more than one title. Nor did we name a specific LLM. It was an invitation to participate in AI licensing. You're absolutely right in asking that because every year, we have a big front list of academic titles coming out. I think you can look to this as a revenue stream for years to come. Good. Have I missed anyone? By the way, there are 10 things to know about Bloomsbury. I'm sure that subliminally, you've absorbed all of them. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:43:28It remains only for me to thank you all very much for coming, to thank you for your questions, and to also thank our online viewers for their presence today. Thank you all very much. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:43:48Thank you.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsJessica PokAnalyst at Peel HuntKeith UnderwoodCFO and COO at BloomsburyNigel NewtonFounder and CEO at BloomsburyWill LloydAnalyst at BerenbergAnalystCompany Representative at BloomsburyVideo NarratorPowered by Earnings DocumentsSlide Deck Bloomsbury Publishing Earnings HeadlinesBloomsbury increases profit and dividend as academic growth and AI partnerships support performance (BMY)May 20 at 2:44 PM | uk.finance.yahoo.comBloomsbury Publishing (LON:BMY) Shares Cross Above 200 Day Moving Average - Time to Sell?May 20 at 3:22 AM | americanbankingnews.comElon’s Biggest Launch Ever: 15x Bigger Than SpaceXThe Man Who Called Nvidia Before It Soared 1,000% Issues New Elon Musk BUY Alert Luke Lango was ranked America's #1 stock picker in 2020. He was mentored by two hedge fund billionaires from the Soros network and trained at Caltech. His readers have had the chance to see gains as high as AMD +8,500%... 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PresentationSkip to Participants Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and a very warm welcome to this live session here at Hudson Sandler and Charterhouse Square in London, and also to all of our viewers online of the London Stock Exchange video. I'm very pleased to greet you. I'm Nigel Newton, Founder and Chief Executive of Bloomsbury, and I am joined by Keith Underwood, Chief Financial and Operating Officer recently appointed by us. If I can move on to the first slide, please, of highlights, we make the points that our portfolio of portfolios has been a resilient model through consumer and academic publishing. This makes us very rare, if not unique, in our industry and is the basis of the good numbers that we're able to report to you today because, like our shareholders on the public markets, we are not dependent on one type of revenue stream. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:01:10We're exposed to both the consumer on the high street and the main street. At the same time to the huge institutional buying power of tens of billions of dollars worldwide in academic libraries. Profits are up 7% to GBP 44.9 million. That is great because it's been the basis of the dividend being up 5%. We shall point out on a slide some of you are familiar with the 31-year unbroken track record of Bloomsbury dividend growth. Hurra. We have an AI licensing agreement that we announced in July that I'm very pleased to tell you is ongoing in financial year 2026-2027. Completely separately from that, we announced in December a partnership with Google on a number of tools that are being implemented throughout Bloomsbury to all 1,250 of our colleagues. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:02:32We are creating the Bloomsbury Brain that will ultimately read in its secured off-from-the-internet walled garden a database of every word that we've ever published that we can utilize in so many different ways to make future decisions based on the evidence of the past. What to publish, how much to pay for books, how many copies to print of books, and many other things. We have streamlined and simplified our operating structure, which will have an effect on our financial performance, and a good one. You have two choices, really, in a business. A matrix structure or a vertical structure. Though the matrix has served us very well, we've moved from the one to the other with all kinds of changes in how we sell. For example, in America, we sold through a third party, Macmillan Publishing Services. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:03:42We've now recruited a dynamic team of our own key account managers selling direct for the first time to our very big customers over there. This new structure will benefit us enormously. As you will see, we have a very strong consumer front list in the year ahead, including remarkably not one but two new Sarah J. Maas novels. The board has strong confidence in delivering a record profit in line with recently upgraded expectations for the year 2026-2027. The board is strengthened with the appointment not only of Keith Underwood but of my colleague Jenny Ridout, who is the managing director of Bloomsbury Academic & Professional, now including with responsibility for sales, marketing, and publicity in the new structure, following in the footsteps of previous leaders at Bloomsbury Academic being on the PLC board, Richard Charkin, and later Jonathan Glasspool. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:04:56We also have a third appointment as a non-executive director, Chris Blatchford, a very brilliant man with considerable expertise as a Chief Technology Officer. He had, was it, 800 data scientists reporting to him at our academic competitor Elsevier within RELX. It presently holds this high office for Kingfisher PLC. We are very pleased, indeed, to have his expertise, which is granular and tactical as well as strategic, at a time when the world is becoming increasingly digital, and Bloomsbury wants to be at the forefront of all change that will benefit us. You didn't have long to wait for that. It looks like an urban landscape of skyscrapers leading to this big jump in the dividend just announced. Next slide, please. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:06:21Well, good morning, everyone. I am really pleased to be here and delighted to be presenting robust results for Bloomsbury and a really, really strong outlook. Bloomsbury's investment case is one of strong shareholder returns, as you can see from the earlier slide, derived from a diversified portfolio across academic and consumer publishing, across print and digital, and from an increasingly international footprint. Organic growth has been supplemented by 34 carefully selected and skillfully integrated acquisitions, with the most recent one being the GBP 65 million acquisition of Rowman & Littlefield, which was conducted in May 2024. In terms of the highlights, we're reporting robust results. FY 2026 profit is GBP 44.9 million. That's a margin of 13.8%, which is up 210 basis points from 11.7% in the previous year. As we'll come on to show, that growth has been driven by digital sales within our academic and professional business. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:07:26As expected, total revenue is down year-on-year given the strong comparative that we had in the consumer division in the prior year. EPS is up 8% to 44.57p. We've continued, as Nigel said, our outstanding track record of unbroken dividend growth. We have a strong balance sheet, as you can see. Total net assets are broadly flat at GBP 216 million. Within working capital, we've worked really hard to basically reduce our finished stock balances by over 20% to GBP 35 million. We've continued to drive operational efficiencies from new distribution partners. Our net cash position has improved from GBP 17 million to GBP 29 million, that consists of cash of GBP 44 million and a net debt or a debt balance of GBP 15 million. This slide just bridges that cash flow movement. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:08:29The closing net cash balance of GBP 29 million, well, that will draw down, as you've seen in previous years, that will draw down in the first half of the year and then build up in the second half, particularly given the second half weighting of our consumer list. Our capital allocation priorities are very much focused on internal investment to drive organic growth, debt reduction, dividends, and where appropriate, bolt-on acquisitions. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:08:57Consumer. The consumer division had, as you recall, an extremely strong comparative but achieved revenue of GBP 218 million and a profit of GBP 20.5 million with a margin of 9%. On the next slide, you can see the great diversification of our consumer portfolio continuing to shine through with a real breadth of critical and commercial success across many different genres. In romantasy, Sarah J. Maas returned to the bestseller list in 2025 with the release of the paperback of The House of Flame and Shadow, and her fans are thrilled that she is now releasing two books in the Court of Thorns and Roses series in the year ahead. In the U.S., Renée Watson won the Newbery Medal for the New York Times bestseller All the Blues in the Sky. J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series remains in the top 10. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:10:14The TV serialization of Harry Potter will be launched at Christmas, helping to introduce the series to a whole new generation of children over the coming years. In nonfiction, Gillian Anderson's Want in paperback was in the top 10 on The Sunday Times bestseller list for 22 weeks, including nine weeks in the number one spot. In children's, our bestselling author Katherine Rundell announced a long-term film deal with Walt Disney Studios, which will significantly boost her already bestselling Impossible Creatures series, the next volume of which is due out in August. We have also had continued success in fantasy from Samantha Shannon and in cookery from Poppy O'Toole, both of whom have new books coming in this year too. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:11:20Okay, on to Academic and Professional. Academic and Professional had a strong year with revenues of GBP 108 million and profits doubling to GBP 25 million. Growth was driven, as you can see, by digital sales, which included the AI licensing deal, which was announced earlier in the year. Print revenues during the year were stable. Year-on-year, all revenue streams, that's print, digital, and other, increased in the second half. I'm very pleased to say that in the financial year-to-date, we've seen really good growth in all territories. As I say, Academic and Professional has benefited from the AI licensing agreement, and we are pleased to say that this is ongoing into 2026-2027 as more authors opt in and more titles are added to that framework deal. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:12:06The integration of Rowman & Littlefield is now substantially complete, and significant progress is being made on digitalizing the high-quality portfolio that we were able to bring in as a result of that deal. We've also expanded our business in Asia, opening a base in Singapore to further capitalize on the growth in the student population in the region, building upon the success of our established offices in Australia and also in India. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:12:35The upcoming year has an array of potential bestsellers, as you can see behind me, from our incredibly strong, stable, our portfolio, if you like, of great general authors from Sarah J. Maas, Gillian Anderson, Samantha Shannon, Katherine Rundell, J.K. Rowling, Peter Frankopan, Ann Patchett, Louise Kennedy, Dan Jones, Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, and Poppy O'Toole. In addition, Stephen Graham, who you know, the great actor in the series of Adolescence, has compiled a book of letters called Letters to Our Sons, which we feel privileged to be publishing. Looking to our innovative publishing of the Harry Potter series, we are publishing Pocket Potters with a book per character and the next of the illustrated editions quite separately, which is nicely timed to benefit from the huge opportunity of the HBO series launching at Christmas. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:13:48Moving to the next slide of summary and outlook, you can see that the Bloomsbury portfolio of portfolios strategy has created a resilient and successful business model. The major reorganization of our company, which we announced in April, is already providing greater agility, and we will be in great shape to harness growth opportunities. We have, as you have seen, a strong publishing list for the year ahead with exciting major releases and, in particular, what we call there the two major events of the new Sarah Maas titles and of the new movies in the HBO TV series. In addition, there are further TV releases to come. Netflix are making a second series of The Three-Body Problem, the trilogy which did so well for us a couple of years ago. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:15:02Our wonderful late author Anthony Bourdain, Netflix have made a very powerful series about Tony as a young man when he's deciding what to do with his life and falls into cookery, where he rises to the eminence that he did and that he was able to write up in Kitchen Confidential that was a complete worldwide bestseller. The film to look out for in the summer is called Tony. Putting all of these factors together, the board has strong confidence in delivering a record profit in this new financial year, 2026-2027, in line with recently upgraded expectations. Company Representative at Bloomsbury00:16:08Well, Hi, everyone. That's just fantastic. Special thanks from those tables gathered around Table 49 over there who made this possible. Thank you, colleagues. We have strengthened our wonderful list of authors to this point today. Video Narrator00:21:43[Presentation] Company Representative at Bloomsbury00:22:15Recent global rankings have highlighted the strong and well-deserved rise of Asian universities. This growth, in turn, is increasing demand for high-quality academic content, digital resources, innovative learning and teaching tools. We are sending a clear signal of our long-term commitment to the region. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:24:08Thank you very much. Do you have any questions? How marvelous. You're the nearest. Will LloydAnalyst at Berenberg00:24:18Thanks very much for the presentation. Will Lloyd from Berenberg. Firstly, just on the AI licensing, obviously benefit in 2027 from additional authors opting in. I'm just wondering if you could quantify how many authors have sort of opted in, to give us an indication of how much further runway there is for the AI licensing deal. Secondly, on academic, you talk about it sort of getting back to growth. I'm just wondering if you could share some more information, any more color on what you mean exactly by back to growth, market conditions versus the go-to-market strategy that you've put in place. Finally, just in terms of the Harry Potter HBO series, obviously you've got Pocket Potters coming out and the illustrated sixth book. What else are you doing in terms of the strategy around pre-release? Are you looking at resleeving the books, etc.? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:25:12Well, I'll take the first and the third if I remember them. Keith, you can kindly take the middle. What was the first question? Will LloydAnalyst at Berenberg00:25:23About further runway in academic licensing. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:25:28It was a wonderful exercise contacting all of our academic authors to see if they wished to be part of this or not, some of whom we hadn't been in contact with for a long time. Even some new books eventuated from that. We haven't identified the number. It's still ongoing. We've been very pleased. I think that if you imagine if you were given a choice whether to have your life work trained on by AI, you might find your view changed almost month by month. Academics are no exception. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:26:13As we all get to grips with the extraordinary power and benefits of AI, as well as the much publicized fears and potential negative aspects of it, the one thing that is absolutely clear is that the better trained the AI models are, the better the answers that the whole world is going to receive will be. There's a reason why AI companies have focused on academic content, one of which is that most academic monographs and other works are peer-reviewed by up to five or six leading academics in that field. This is really gold standard information that they're training on. Second question. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:27:13Shall I take the second? In terms of the growth in A&P revenues, I think when in the first half presentations, when I think I was the other side of the table, actually, we ended up reporting on the challenges in the first half of the year. Second half of the year, Will, we've seen as we reported good growth across all territories, across all formats, which has been particularly encouraging. That growth has continued into the opening part of this year where we've again seen growth in all territories. Really encouraging that from our existing customer base and also from new customers with big deals coming in. That's I mean, we're early on in the financial year, but certainly very encouraging. In terms of the year itself, we also saw year-on-year growth in BDR as well during the year. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:27:57Yeah, encouraging signs, but it's obviously early in the year. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:28:01That was two. You can do the third as a bonus. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:28:04Remind me, Will, number three. Will LloydAnalyst at Berenberg00:28:06It was a strategy around the HBO release of Harry Potter at Christmas, just sort of what else we're doing. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:28:12Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. We'll have to wait and see exactly what we're going to do. That's a work in progress. Suffice it to say that when the Warner Bros. films came out starting from about 2000, Bloomsbury really capitalized on that moment and opened up the market from what I think then would have been called a ABC1 market to a C2, D3 market, reaching literally hundreds of thousands of new customers who were new to the series, only alerted to it really by the movies rather than the books, and largely reached through supermarkets and mass merchandising retailers, by far our largest customer when the movies came out was Tesco. If you're doing things right, Tesco should be your largest customer for any product. Watch this space. Alistair. Analyst00:29:32Thanks very much. Three from me. Keith, obviously sort of quite early in your tenure, but any sort of initial reflections on sort of what surprised you for better or worse, if anything at all? Secondly, obviously we touched on there's an HBO sort of series around Harry Potter. With Sarah J. Maas, I think she mentioned midway through the podcast, she'd just managed to get all of her TV and movie rights back. Anything you're sort of hearing on the grapevine on when they might get used? Lastly, just to sort of expand on the topic of AI licensing, any more talks with other providers that you might be in and any sort of learnings from the first deal that might be useful as and when you go through that process? Thanks. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:30:17Will, I won't take the first question about Keith's first impressions. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:30:23Yeah, I'm happy to take that, actually. I mean, look, it's been a really eventful start, really energizing start. I joined the business seeing that growth trajectory that you've all seen and that you've all benefited from and just really energized to join a business that's got that sort of mindset, that ability to really develop, nurture new talent, and then bring that to market. That's what I wanted to join for. I also saw huge potential within the business as well. I think on being on the inside of that's been absolutely reaffirmed in what we've been able to do and the plans we've been able to set forth for the future years. I mean, really quickly on, we've been able to move at pace with a restructure within the business. As we've reported, that's going to increase the agility of the business. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:31:07It's going to increase accountability as we move to a vertical structure. Really, it's going to improve financial performance going forward. I would say from my side, that's a good first step and a good start. I'm also really excited about the tech deployment as well that we can do within the business. Nigel mentioned the Bloomsbury Brain. I think that's hugely interesting in terms of what that can do for our ability to drive semantic search across our titles, bringing that out for internal promotional opportunities, but also for driving external demand across our customer base. I think that's a real opportunity. Internally as well, the way in which we can deploy it are, I mean, obvious use cases in terms of sales demand forecasting, guidance notes in terms of cost management, and also stock management and print runs as well. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:31:56I mean, the use cases are really obvious, very clear, and high value. That potential just is massively energizing. I mean, I observe it from the outside and have now been nearly four months in. It's a great management team. We move at pace to capture opportunities. I'm delighted to be a part of the team. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:32:16We're thrilled to have Keith with us. He was instrumental in our restructure only months into his arrival. Alistair, your second question was about HBO film rights. Analyst00:32:32Whether Sarah J. Maas, I think she talked about having got her rights back. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:32:37Yes. Analyst00:32:37Anything on the grapevine about those? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:32:40There is no news to report. It's her news to report. She'll do so when she's ready. Suffice it to say that when she does, I think it will be the most extraordinarily successful streaming series that one can possibly imagine other than Harry Potter. Your third question was about AI licensing. Analyst00:33:09Any more coming? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:33:10Well, we are in contact with all of the LLMs that you've heard of. I think it would be true to say that they've got their acts together in varying degrees. Of course, many of them have no interest in licensing content whatsoever. Why pay for what you can steal? Bloomsbury were very much part of a campaign by the Publishers Association and the Society of Authors at the London Book Fair called Don't Steal This Book to encourage the U.K. government to not create a so-called commercial research exception that would have been a backdoor for LLMs to get content legally without paying for it. Fortunately, at the moment, what they're doing is illegal. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:34:13You will all be aware of the GBP 1.5 billion settlement in the Anthropic versus Bartz case in the San Francisco Northern District Court, which is just going through the final stage of validation, assuming that all goes according to plan. GBP 1.5 billion will be divided among many authors, publishers, and of course, the lawyers. Bloomsbury will be a substantial beneficiary. That is something that we haven't taken into account in anything that we've said because you don't do you until it's happened. That is the first of not the first, but it's one of many cases. The Association of American Publishers announced further law cases only two weeks ago against other household names in the LLM area. I think it will become increasingly clear that licensing content is cheaper for LLMs than stealing it. We are only dealing with people who are good faith actors. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:35:55Moreover, once you have a contract, you have guardrails in place to safeguard the amount of your content that can be used, which isn't very much, and the citations that are required and a whole host of things that lead to the kind of organized marketplace that perhaps we saw some time ago when the Napster moment was ended and then paid for streaming became the force that it is now with Spotify and many other players. We hope for increased order in the AI training market. Analyst00:36:40Just to follow up, would you be tempted to. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:36:42That's a fourth question. Analyst00:36:45Part B. Would you be tempted to license your consumer content in the sort of way that I think HarperCollins did? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:36:51Not at the moment, no. Nor is there much interest in that. I would be interested to know the takeup in other publishers who've done it. I believe I mentioned earlier the benefits of academic content where their peer-reviewed gold status is considerable. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:37:18Just to add that, Alistair, if I may as well, I mean, having done a series of these deals at other organizations and coming in, observing the partnership that's been set up with the provider, I mean, it's an impressive partnership. The breadth of it as well is really impressive. Yeah, I'm optimistic of more. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:37:39Hi. Jessica PokAnalyst at Peel Hunt00:37:40Hi. It's Jessica Pok from Peel Hunt. Three questions, please. First, I'm just going back to the details of the deal. Obviously, you go upside from more authors opting in. Can you just help us understand what does the deal mean for future publications from the authors or even the authors who have already opted in? Is it just the publications that they've already published? What does it mean for kind of future titles? The second thing. Okay. Secondly, just on Asia, can you give an update in terms of where you are with that and any green shoots, early green shoots? Then just the final one, can you help us understand I mean, this first Sarah J. Maas book is coming out in October. How early do you see the demand in the pre-orders in terms of size and magnitude? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:38:45Go for it. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:38:47In terms of the authors opting in was your first question and how that works. Authors opt in generally. What we've got, though, is the way in which the framework deal works is it's on a title-by-title batch basis. You asked about Asia? Jessica PokAnalyst at Peel Hunt00:39:10Sorry. Yes. Asia. Progress in Asia. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:39:12Yeah. Really early days at the moment in terms of Asia. We're seeing good cut-through in terms of the market. A lot of interesting conversations ongoing, particularly in the academic and professional market as well where the teams are growing well. It's an area of real opportunity for us as I look at the market growth. I mean, we've already talked about the huge explosion in terms of student numbers, that area we want to move into. Actually, in terms of academic and professional more generally, we're looking at building out the content proposition, building out the format base, and the territorial footprint as well. Certainly, the Singapore base provides us with a really good opportunity to do that. Sarah J. Maas, pre-orders, Nigel, did you want to take that? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:39:57Extraordinary. They're very high. Virtually, if we start with America, which is her biggest market, virtually every major retailer, including non-book outlets that sell some books mass merchandise retailers see this as one of the biggest products that they will sell this holiday season in the case of the first book in October and then following rapidly on in January. There are two kinds of pre-orders, actually. There are those placed by customers direct with retailers, people getting in their early order of the new books on, say, the Barnes & Noble website or whatever it may be. Those are higher than we've ever seen before. Secondly, there's the orders of the retailers themselves. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:41:08We have all of those in now or not all of them, but almost all of them because we need them to fix the very considerable print runs that we will have for these books. I can say that I've never seen quite such robust support from the entire retail base in America as we are seeing with these two books. In addition, the same thing is being replicated quite spectacularly in English-language markets all over the world. I think it's going to be extraordinary. Jessica PokAnalyst at Peel Hunt00:41:54Can I just follow up on the first question? On the AI deal, if it's book by book, then in theory, for future releases, can we assume there could be a benefit flowing after FY 2027 into 2028 because the authors are using it? Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:42:13You should definitely assume that. There's nothing for us to confirm to you evidentially. The permission that we sought from our authors was for their full body of work. We neither named a specific title by them if they had more than one title. Nor did we name a specific LLM. It was an invitation to participate in AI licensing. You're absolutely right in asking that because every year, we have a big front list of academic titles coming out. I think you can look to this as a revenue stream for years to come. Good. Have I missed anyone? By the way, there are 10 things to know about Bloomsbury. I'm sure that subliminally, you've absorbed all of them. Nigel NewtonFounder and CEO at Bloomsbury00:43:28It remains only for me to thank you all very much for coming, to thank you for your questions, and to also thank our online viewers for their presence today. Thank you all very much. Keith UnderwoodCFO and COO at Bloomsbury00:43:48Thank you.Read moreParticipantsAnalystsJessica PokAnalyst at Peel HuntKeith UnderwoodCFO and COO at BloomsburyNigel NewtonFounder and CEO at BloomsburyWill LloydAnalyst at BerenbergAnalystCompany Representative at BloomsburyVideo NarratorPowered by