The RMR Group Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: Third-quarter results met guidance: Distributable earnings were $0.48 per share and adjusted EBITDA was $19.7 million. Management expects fourth-quarter adjusted EBITDA of $19 million–$21 million and distributable earnings of $0.48–$0.50 per share.
  • Positive Sentiment: Management expects more than $40 million of 2026 incentive fees, primarily from DHC and ILPT, with DHC representing roughly 75% of the current estimate. Sequential management-fee growth also reflects improving enterprise values at managed REITs.
  • Positive Sentiment: Managed REIT operating and balance-sheet improvements continued: DHC reported 37% same-property shop NOI growth and reduced net debt to adjusted EBITDA to 7.1 times, while ILPT posted record leasing and a rent roll-up above 35%. SVC also improved retained-hotel RevPAR by 6.6% and reduced near-term refinancing risk after redeeming $550 million of notes.
  • Negative Sentiment: Private-capital fundraising remains challenging because of Middle East-related volatility and limited investor liquidity from prior real estate commitments; management said fundraising cycles are now taking 18–24 months. Global real estate fundraising reached a nine-year low in the first half of the year.
  • Positive Sentiment: RMR expanded its private-capital platform through a roughly $350 million Greenwich, Connecticut residential joint venture, retaining a 5% general-partner interest and expected annual asset- and property-management fees of approximately $750,000. The company also reported that its wholly owned multifamily assets are about 92% occupied and tracking their value-add plans.
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Operator

Day, welcome to The RMR Group fiscal third quarter 2026 earnings call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Bryan Maher, Senior Vice President. Please go ahead.

Bryan Maher
Bryan Maher
SVP at The RMR Group

Thank you. Good morning. Thank you for joining RMR's fiscal third quarter 2026 conference call. With me on today's call are President and CEO, Adam Portnoy, Chief Operating Officer, Matt Jordan, and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Brown. In just a moment, they will provide details about our business and quarterly results, followed by a question and answer session. I would also like to note that the recording and retransmission of today's conference call is prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on RMR's beliefs and expectations as of today, August 6th, 2026, and actual results may differ materially from those that we project.

Bryan Maher
Bryan Maher
SVP at The RMR Group

The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to forward-looking statements made in today's conference call. Additional information concerning factors that could cause those differences is contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on our website at rmrgroup.com. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward-looking statements. In addition, we may discuss non-GAAP numbers during this call, including distributable earnings and adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of net income determined in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles to these non-GAAP figures can be found in our financial results. I'll now turn the call over to Adam.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

Thanks, Bryan, thank you all for joining us this morning. Yesterday, we reported third quarter financial results that were in line with our expectations, despite broad economic and geopolitical uncertainty. Our quarterly results were highlighted by distributable earnings of $0.48 per share and adjusted EBITDA of $19.7 million. Our results continue to reflect the organization's focus on our two primary strategic objectives. First, we are focused on driving continued improvements in the share prices of our managed REITs through strong business execution. Second, we are focused on growing our private capital business. While Matt will talk more about private capital as it relates to our managed REITs, over the past two years, we have actively assisted the REITs in deleveraging efforts through strategic asset sales, refinancing debt on more attractive terms, and driving property NOI growth through increased occupancy, rent roll-ups, and disciplined expense management.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

These efforts continue to resonate with the investment community as both DHC and ILPT remain among the best performing REITs in the U.S. over the past three years. As a result of this continued outperformance, we have seen sequential quarter growth in management fees, we are on pace to generate over $40 million in incentive fees this calendar year. Now turning to our managed REITs. At DHC, the REIT continues to experience significant operating improvement within its senior housing segment following the transition of 116 communities to new operators over the past year. DHC has also materially improved its balance sheet metrics following over $600 million in non-core asset sales since the beginning of last year, resulting in net debt to adjusted EBITDA declining to 7.1x as of June 30th.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

In the second quarter, DHC generated normalized FFO of $0.16 per share and adjusted EBITDA of $82 million, both exceeding consensus estimates. Same property shop NOI grew 37% over last year, Same property shop margins improved 390 basis points to 17.3%. Importantly, we continue to believe that DHC is in the early innings of a multi-year acceleration in cash flow growth because of the demographic-driven demand for its shop communities and limited supply growth, which are amplified by the operational improvements we are implementing across the portfolio. ILPT had a very successful quarter with its results highlighted by a record 5.4 million sq ft of leasing and a weighted average rent roll-up of more than 35%, marking its seventh consecutive quarter of double-digit rent growth.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

RMR recently assisted ILPT with the refinancing of $1.6 billion of new debt for its consolidated Mountain joint venture, which replaced floating rate debt with interest-only fixed rate debt at an attractive 5.7% interest rate. Given a materially improved debt profile and strong organic cash flow growth, ILPT recently doubled its quarterly dividend to $0.10 per share while maintaining significant dividend coverage. SVC continues to make progress strengthening its balance sheet while improving its portfolio composition through a combination of capital recycling and over $900 million in non-core asset sales since the beginning of last year. Management's primary focus remains on working with Sonesta's new leadership team to drive hotel EBITDA margins higher, while also looking to realize the anticipated benefits from nearly $650 million in capital improvements made to its retained hotel portfolio over the past three years.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

For the quarter, SVC's retained hotels saw RevPAR increase 6.6% and hotel EBITDA grow 4.2%, reflecting the early benefits of the recently completed renovations. Normalized FFO per share came in at $0.43 and adjusted EBITDA was $146 million. RMR was instrumental in helping SVC improve its balance sheet during the quarter using the net proceeds from its recent $575 million equity offering to redeem $550 million of unsecured notes due in 2027. SVC has meaningfully reduced near-term refinancing risk while creating runway to optimize its hotel performance and advance its broader transformation into a net lease-focused REIT. OPI recently emerged from bankruptcy and its newly issued shares trade on the Nasdaq. We previously highlighted, RMR will continue managing OPI for an initial five-year term, with RMR receiving a flat business management fee during the first two years of $14 million per year.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

To conclude, we are pleased with the significant progress RMR has made improving the financial positions of our managed REITs. We are particularly encouraged by the total shareholder returns that have been delivered by DHC and ILPT over the past three years, and we are working hard to deliver similar results across all of our clients. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Matt Jordan.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

Thanks, Adam. While our publicly traded perpetual capital clients provide RMR and its shareholders with a stable foundation of recurring cash flows, we continue to pursue growth strategies in our private capital business, which as a reminder, has grown from nearly zero assets under management in 2020 to over $12 billion today. To further this initiative, over the past year, we have built a global in-house sales and marketing team that continues to spend significant time increasing RMR's brand awareness. Given our expertise across most real estate sectors, we are in an excellent position to tailor the opportunities we are seeing in the market to potential partners' capital allocation strategies.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

While investor meetings continue to be constructive and have helped establish our organization in a manner that will benefit us in the long term, the ongoing conflict in the Middle East continues to be a headwind, with global real estate fundraising in the first half of the calendar year coming in at a nine-year low. While we continue to make longer-term investments to build our brand and expand our investor universe, our residential business recently closed a joint venture acquisition in Greenwich, Connecticut for approximately $350 million. This venture involved RMR partnering with new institutional investors that represent 95% of the equity in the venture, with RMR retaining a 5% general partner interest. Our multi-year plan for this asset is to modernize the community, enhance the resident experience, and unlock embedded operating efficiencies.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

As general partner, RMR earned an acquisition fee at closing and will earn asset management and property management fees of approximately $750,000 annually from this venture. As a reminder, the RMR Residential platform we acquired in 2023 was historically built completing joint ventures like the Greenwich transaction with large institutional partners. To that end, while we continue to fundraise for our residential enhanced growth venture, we expect to continue executing one-off joint ventures with RMR acting as the general partner. Further, as tailwinds continue to improve for multifamily real estate, whether it be continued strengthening of fundamentals or the continued slowdown in multifamily construction, we expect transaction activity to rebound over time. Our residential platform regularly exceeded $1 billion in transactions a year prior to the headwinds the sector has recently experienced.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

Beyond our general partner interests, RMR wholly owns three multifamily communities encompassing 781 units that are almost 92% occupied. This quarter's earnings presentation includes expanded color on these assets, all of which are performing in line with their value add business plans and collectively are seeing operating fundamental improvements as supply eases. This is most notably starting to show in a continued trend of rental rate improvements and the easing of tenant concessions. In closing, as investors may recall, last quarter we added a slide to our investor presentation that highlighted the material discount at which RMR shares trade relative to our peers.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

As an update, if one were to back out the carrying value of our investments, as well as the net carrying value of our wholly owned real estate and JV interests, RMR shares are trading at just over five times the EBITDA generated primarily by the 20-year evergreen management contracts associated with some of our managed equity REITs. This is significantly below the 16.5x average multiple at which our peers trade and highlights the attractiveness of our shares at current levels. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Matt Brown.

Matt Brown
Matt Brown
EVP, CFO, and Treasurer at The RMR Group

Thanks, Matt, good morning, everyone. For our fiscal third quarter, we reported adjusted EBITDA of $19.7 million and distributable earnings of $0.48 per share, both of which met our guidance. Recurring service revenues were $45.5 million, a sequential quarter increase of approximately $3.5 million, driven primarily by increases in the enterprise values of DHC and SVC, seasonal improvements in Sonesta revenues, and acquisition fees earned from our Greenwich joint venture acquisition. Next quarter, we expect recurring service revenues to remain consistent at approximately $45 million as enterprise values at our managed equity REITs continue to improve, offset by acquisition fees recognized in the current quarter. Turning to expenses. Recurring cash compensation was $39.6 million, a sequential quarter increase of approximately $2 million, largely driven by year-to-date adjustments recognized in the current quarter and changes in headcount mix.

Matt Brown
Matt Brown
EVP, CFO, and Treasurer at The RMR Group

Our reimbursement rate in the quarter was approximately 42%, which we view as a good run rate moving forward based on our current headcount mix and strategic asset sales at certain of our managed equity REITs. Looking ahead to next quarter, we expect recurring cash compensation to decrease to approximately $38.5 million. As it relates to equity-based compensation, with our fiscal year-end approaching, RMR share awards to employees are expected to occur in September. Based on historical grants, we expect approximately $600,000 in incremental equity compensation next quarter. Recurring G&A this quarter was $10.7 million, which is a modest sequential quarter increase driven primarily by normal course legal and professional fees, including third-party construction management fees. We expect recurring G&A to decrease slightly next quarter. As noted in last quarter's call, our quarterly tax rate during the year is subject to fluctuation.

Matt Brown
Matt Brown
EVP, CFO, and Treasurer at The RMR Group

These fluctuations are not expected to materially impact our full-year estimated tax rate of 17%-18%. This quarter, our tax rate remained elevated at 20.4% as adjustments such as unrealized gains on our investments in SVC and Seven impacted the timing of tax expense recognition. As Adam highlighted earlier, OPI emerged from bankruptcy in June, and we entered into amended and restated management agreements with OPI. As a result, we wrote off a contract asset associated with the previous management agreements, which was partially offset by RMR receiving 2% of the equity in the new entity to compensate us for our efforts through the bankruptcy process. The net impact of these non-cash related items resulted in a net impairment charge of $19 million.

Matt Brown
Matt Brown
EVP, CFO, and Treasurer at The RMR Group

Our investment in SVC generated approximately $420,000 in dividends in the quarter, which contributed to adjusted EBITDA and distributable earnings and serves as a good run rate moving forward. Aggregating these collective assumptions, next quarter we expect adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $19 million-$21 million and distributable earnings to be between $0.48 and $0.50 per share. We expect full year adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $76.5 million-$78.5 million, which excludes the $23.6 million of incentive fees earned for calendar year 2025 and the possible more than $40 million of incentive fees for calendar year 2026. We ended the quarter with over $130 million of total liquidity, including over $55 million in cash and $75 million of capacity on our revolving credit facility. We remain well positioned to execute on our strategic objectives and pursue growth opportunities that strengthen our competitive position and support future performance.

Matt Brown
Matt Brown
EVP, CFO, and Treasurer at The RMR Group

That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Tyler Batory with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Tyler Batory
Tyler Batory
Analyst at Oppenheimer

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First one is just on the private capital side of things, in particular the Enhanced Growth Venture. It sounds like it's just the macro that's impacting some of the fundraising, but just wanted to double-click on that. I'm not sure if maybe some of the potential investors out there are looking for something different in terms of this sort of an investment. Just any updates on kind of how you think fundraising might progress over the next couple of quarters.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

Hey, Tyler, it's Matt Jordan. I guess there's a couple of things at play here. The fundraising cycle in general has really extended. You're looking at 18-24 months, and we're still about nine months in, and we've had a series of global meetings and interest levels. I would say the fundraising process is still very much underway. I think you also, what's impacting it is two things. You have the Middle East conflict and the related market volatility that's causing a lot of people to pause. A lot of the capital that is most actively deploying in real estate is Middle Eastern money, so it's further compounding the issue. You also have a second issue of a lot of investments made in the peak years when interest rates were zero or near zero.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

Those investors haven't got that money back, they don't have new monies to deploy. We just need to work through that. We're in this for the long game. Some of the effort we're doing as we market EGV and market RMR broadly is what we believe is going to pay dividends in the long term when things stabilize and people start redeploying again.

Tyler Batory
Tyler Batory
Analyst at Oppenheimer

Okay. Thank you for that. Another big picture question. I'm just trying to think about offering leverage, potential margin improvement in the business. There's, I think, a lot of momentum, a lot of potential on the top line in terms of revenue. Just any guideposts you could provide in terms of flow-through or EBITDA margin, what that might look like in the medium term?

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

Sure. Our current EBITDA margin is in the low 40% range. Historically, that number was trending at or above 50%. Our goal is to get there, and the way we're going to get there is continue growing revenues, and we'll see that flow through all the way down to the bottom line. The goal is to get back towards that 50%-ish margin.

Tyler Batory
Tyler Batory
Analyst at Oppenheimer

Okay. A couple of housekeeping questions. The $40 million potential incentive fees, I guess I want to be clear. I think I know, but I just want to be clear exactly which REITs are driving that. I don't know if there's any help in terms of potential sensitivity. I mean, it sounds like the $40 million is kind of a point in time from right now, so maybe there's even more upside, depending how the rest of the year plays out.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

Sure. The two REITs that are currently in the money for incentive fees right now are DHC and ILPT, with DHC representing about 75% of that total $40-ish million as of June 30th. Yes, the fee is volatile, but both of those REITs are outperforming significantly and as a result of it, are hitting the cap of the incentive fee, which is 1.5% of equity market cap for each of them. We feel really good about incentive fees for 2026 and even looking forward into 2027, we also expect a similar trend to what we're seeing currently.

Tyler Batory
Tyler Batory
Analyst at Oppenheimer

Okay, great. The last one. The SVC investment that you've made, do you have an ideal holding period for that? Is that capital down the line that could be freed up and maybe an opportunity to monetize that at a gain?

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

Hi, Tyler, it's Adam. I think, you should think about that investment as a long-term investment. We really are bullish about the prospects of SVC, which is what partially led us to make that investment. The improvements that we are starting to see in the portfolio we expect to continue, but it is going to be measured in years, not quarters or months. I think from your perspective, to answer it directly, we expect to be long-term holders of SVC.

Tyler Batory
Tyler Batory
Analyst at Oppenheimer

Okay, great. That's all for me. Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Adam, was the $40 million incentive fee for calendar year or fiscal year?

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

It's a calendar year calculation, so it would be calculated at the end of December and typically paid, I believe, in January.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Right. What was the driver for the $21 million investment gain? I might have missed it in the comments.

Matt Brown
Matt Brown
EVP, CFO, and Treasurer at The RMR Group

That's really just the change in share price of our investments in SVC and Seven from where they were at March 31st to where those shares ended at June 30th.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Great. I guess following up on the comments on the slowdown in commercial real estate. I presume it's across sectors. It's not sector-specific. Has this sort of impacted valuations for commercial real estate equity valuations for properties and so forth?

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

It is broad-based generally in terms of capital flowing into commercial real estate. For sure, there's a slowdown. Transaction volumes are down, capital deployments are down, capital raising is down, both in the private markets and public markets. There are some exceptions. The obvious one, data centers. The other exception within the sectors we operate in, I would say that senior living is a sector that continues to see flows. There are sectors performing better than others in terms of transaction activity and capital flows. Another area that seems to have some pretty good capital flows and transaction activity is industrial, which we have a large presence in. Sort of an up-and-coming area that's been up and coming now for a couple of years and continues to accelerate is retail. There's more capital flows coming into retail.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

The whole sector is down, but there are some sectors doing better compared to others. In terms of pricing has not moved much in the last year or so for commercial real estate, with the exception of maybe a couple of the sectors I just mentioned. I think cap rates are compressing in the senior living space. I think cap rates are starting to compress a little bit in the retail space. They're probably even coming down in the office sector, but they're coming down off a very high point in the office sector. There hasn't been a big move in valuations, but transaction volume is way down. We're running like at 50% of what normal transaction volumes would be. Because you're not seeing as much capital flows in transactions volumes, that has not led to a deterioration in asset values significantly.

Christopher Nolan
Christopher Nolan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from John Massocca with B. Riley. Please go ahead.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley

In operating-

Operator

Okay. I'm sorry. John Massocca, could you please start your question over? I didn't quite get you on the queue or on the podium as fast as I thought.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley

No problem. I'm a very fast speaker.

Operator

Thank you.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley

Maybe starting with the theme of on-balance-sheet real estate, how are you thinking about additional investments today? Does that need to see kind of a ramp-up in that private capital fundraising before you would feel comfortable putting more investments on balance sheet? Or given the capacity you have with some of the debt availability for RMR proper, you would feel comfortable continuing to seed things as you see attractive opportunities in the multifamily space or other real estate sectors?

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

Hi, John. You're sort of onto it, and we're thinking about similar ways. Until there is a sort of an uptick in, let's say, fundraising around EGV for multifamily, I don't think you'll see us put another wholly owned asset on the balance sheet for, let's say, multifamily. The only area that we are actively thinking about putting a wholly owned investment on the balance sheet would be maybe retail. We have one retail asset on the balance sheet. It's possible we could put another one or two there. We feel pretty bullish about that sector. We're not the only ones that feel bullish about that sector, but we feel pretty good about our ability to execute a value-add strategy in and around some, for lack of a better word, shopping centers. We've got one on balance sheet. It's actually performing pretty well.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

We're hopeful we'll have a very good return on that investment. We could see that in retail. Again, that falls sort of the theme you've talked about, which is we're not really thinking about putting more money to work in multifamily because we sort of have three assets. We're waiting to see if we can get the capital deployed or raise capital in a private format around that. We haven't really built out a strong track record in value-add retail investing. That's the impetus for us to use the balance sheet capital for that. The goal is through the prism of we're doing this to help accelerate private capital raising so we can generate more fees for the organization. That's sort of the way we think about it.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley

Okay. In terms of the public vehicles, OPI now back in the public markets, can you maybe provide a little more disclosure on how you get to some of the potential fees there, and maybe how you're thinking about or how maybe you have to treat the 2% ownership stake you received as part of that transaction?

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

Sure. We're likely to be a long-term holder of that 2% stake as well. OPI is sort of in the early innings of its emergence from bankruptcy and sort of executing on its business plan. It's in the process of selling some real estate today. Everything about OPI is being thought about through the prism of how do we increase free cash flow for the business? How do we optimize the portfolio? How do we delever even further the balance sheet, even though we significantly have delevered it? Those are sort of the themes that the board and management is focused on at OPI. I think in the coming quarters, it'll become clearer sort of precisely what we'll be focused on in terms of additional asset sales, if there are any refinancing or cleaning up maybe the balance sheet as part of that.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

Those are things that I think we're focused on over the next couple of quarters. We feel confident the company is in strong footing. We are focused on increasing free cash flow, deleveraging, portfolio optimization. Those are the things we're focused on.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley

The potential 8% additional ownership stake, I mean, is that kind of contingent on more kind of going concern type of targets, or would that be kind of more of a liquidation type scenario? Just kind of curious, broad strokes, how do you maybe get to at least some of that potential ownership upside?

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

It's a great question, John. We have not entered into the agreement yet on that, what's called a management incentive plan. We are currently in discussions regarding that. All those things are sort of on the table. Once we get that finalized, we'll be happy to disclose details on how it's set up. We just don't have it in place yet.

John Massocca
John Massocca
Analyst at B. Riley

Okay. Understood. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question is from Mitch Germain with Citizens Bank. Please go ahead.

Mitch Germain
Analyst at Citizens Bank

Great. Thank you. Your legacy investments, the first couple that you made on balance sheet, a couple multifamily, one retail. I'm curious, I don't know, it's been a year plus or so with some of them, how they're performing relative to your original underwriting.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

Hey, Mitch. As a reminder, we've got three wholly-owned multi-deals, Research Triangle, Florida, and Denver on the multi side. Then Adam touched on our Chicago retail deal. As it relates to the multifamily, those are four to five-year business plans, so we're still somewhat in the early innings. So far, again, they're almost 92% occupied. We're seeing respectable 3%-4% rent growth on renewals. We're almost break-even on new leasing, which those are phenomenal numbers versus where we were a year ago in terms of the supply overhang. On the renovations we're doing to the apartments, which is part of the business plan in terms of turning classic units into upgraded units, thus far, we are seeing high teen ROIs that are being generated on those renovations in terms of realization of rent. We feel really good.

Matt Jordan
Matt Jordan
EVP and COO at The RMR Group

These are obviously generating recurring fees through property management and asset management. The big goal is generating promote income for the organization when we realize these transactions in four to five years in terms of their life cycle. As of now, those are all trending on track with their business plan.

Mitch Germain
Analyst at Citizens Bank

Thanks for that commentary. Adam, you've got shares in now three of your five public vehicles. Is there any consideration to maybe grow a stake in the other two remaining? I know that you have incentives that are coming from there. Can you trade some cash for stock? I mean, is this some sort of strategy that you're going to embark on in the future?

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

Thanks, Mitch. It's an interesting question. It's something we have thought about. You're right. There's not just RMR. RMR has large interests in SVC and Seven Hills. I personally have a large interest in DHC. Collectively, between RMR and myself, you're right, in three of the REITs. I think it's an open question. We're open to it. There's no imminent plan to do so in terms to invest in those companies. Under the right circumstances, if they presented themselves and we felt good about the valuation and it would help sort of accelerate the business plan at those companies, I can see a scenario where it could present itself, but there's nothing currently planned to do so.

Mitch Germain
Analyst at Citizens Bank

Great. Last one from me. I apologize. I missed some of your comments. You have a distributable earnings bridge in your presentation. You have some higher compensation this quarter that impacts earnings. Is there a recurring nature to that, or is this one-time expenses?

Matt Brown
Matt Brown
EVP, CFO, and Treasurer at The RMR Group

The majority of that is one-time in nature. We do have slight change in headcount mix, which is a slight factor. More importantly, our bonus at RMR, which get paid to employees in September, is performance-based, based off of EBITDA. We've seen our EBITDA target grow as of June 30 for the balance of the fiscal year as compared to where it was in March. The majority of the adjustment was driven based off that.

Mitch Germain
Analyst at Citizens Bank

Great. Thank you, guys.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Adam Portnoy, President and CEO, for any closing remarks.

Adam Portnoy
Adam Portnoy
President and CEO at The RMR Group

Thank you all for joining our call today. Operator, that concludes our call.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

Executives
    • Bryan Maher
      Bryan Maher
      SVP
    • Adam Portnoy
      Adam Portnoy
      President and CEO
    • Matt Jordan
      Matt Jordan
      EVP and COO
    • Matt Brown
      Matt Brown
      EVP, CFO, and Treasurer
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