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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Host Hotels & Resorts EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.16Consensus EPS $0.26Beat/MissMissed by -$0.10One Year Ago EPSN/AHost Hotels & Resorts Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.07 billionExpected Revenue$948.05 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$125.95 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AHost Hotels & Resorts Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2022Date5/4/2022TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, May 5, 2022Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsHost Hotels & Resorts' Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Wednesday, November 4, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, November 5, 2026 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Host Hotels & Resorts Q1 2022 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 5, 2022ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Q1 outperformance: Delivered adjusted EBITDAre of $306 M and FFO per share of $0.39, with pro forma hotel EBITDA at $330 M just 18% below 2019 and March EBITDA 8% above 2019 driven by resort rate growth. April & Q2 outlook: Preliminary April RevPAR of $225–230 marks the first monthly recovery above 2019, while Q2 RevPAR is guided to $195–205 (down 8–3% vs 2019) for adjusted EBITDAre of $375–410 M amid expected May–June seasonality. Group & transient recovery: Q1 group revenue climbed 33% quarter-on-quarter with banquet & AV up 17%, and business transient room nights set a record 100,000 in March, a 28% increase over October 2021. Capital recycling & liquidity: Disposed $1.4 B of non-core assets at a 17.8x EBITDA multiple, maintain $2 B of total liquidity (including cash, reserves and credit facility), no major debt maturities until 2024, and Q2 dividend doubled to $0.06 per share. Strategic investments: Committed $750 M to renovate 16 Marriott flagships (89% complete), $420 M on eight other major upgrades, and $216 M on four ROI development projects, targeting $147–222 M of annual stabilized EBITDA gains. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallHost Hotels & Resorts Q1 202200:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Host Hotels & Resorts first quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Jaime Marcus, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Jaime MarcusSVP of Investor Relations at Host Hotels & Resorts00:00:15Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Before we begin, please note that many of the comments made today are considered to be forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and we are not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements. In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial information, such as FFO, adjusted EBITDAre, and hotel-level results. You can find this information, together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP information, in yesterday's earnings press release, in our 8-K filed with the SEC, and in the supplemental financial information on our website at hosthotels.com. Jaime MarcusSVP of Investor Relations at Host Hotels & Resorts00:01:11With me on today's call will be Jim Risoleo, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Sourav Ghosh, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jim. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:01:26Thank you, Jamie, and thanks to everyone for joining us this morning. We kicked off the first quarter of 2022 with meaningful outperformance and once again substantially beat all consensus metrics for the quarter. We delivered adjusted EBITDAre of $306 million and adjusted FFO per share of $0.39 during the quarter. All owned hotel pro forma EBITDA of $330 million in the first quarter was just 18% below 2019, and March pro forma hotel EBITDA came in 8% above 2019, driven by significant rate growth at our resorts. Pro forma total revenues in the first quarter increased 10% sequentially over the fourth quarter, while pro forma hotel-level operating expenses grew 5%. The increase in revenues was driven by improvements across rooms, F&B, and other departments. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:02:32Pro forma RevPAR for the first quarter was $167, an 11% improvement from the fourth quarter as rates continued to increase in our Sun Belt markets and hold up at our urban hotels. This is the highest quarterly RevPAR we have seen since the onset of the pandemic, bringing our RevPAR to approximately 18% below first quarter 2019 levels. Our recent acquisitions, dispositions, and renovated properties continued to contribute to our performance during the first quarter. Notably, we had five hotels with ADRs of over $1,000. Preliminary April RevPAR is expected to be approximately $225-$230, which is up slightly to our March RevPAR. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:03:26It is worth pointing out that our preliminary April monthly RevPAR represents the first time that our monthly RevPAR is expected to exceed 2019 levels since the onset of the pandemic. However, consistent with historical monthly trends, we expect to see a pullback in May and June relative to 2019 levels. In addition to Maui and San Diego, we are pleased to see urban markets such as New York, Washington, D.C., and San Francisco driving the outperformance to our forecast. In short, all business segments and markets are trending in a positive direction, and we are very pleased with our performance. Subsequent to quarter end, we sold the 1,780-key Sheraton New York Times Square Hotel for $373 million, or 28x 2019 EBITDA. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:04:27When calculating the EBITDA multiple, we included $136 million of estimated foregone CapEx over the next five years. In connection with the sale, we are providing a $250 million bridge loan to the purchaser. In addition, we sold the 243-key hotel, YVE Miami, for $50 million, including $1 million for the FF&E replacement funds, or 23.2x 2019 EBITDA. When calculating the EBITDA multiple, we included $9.5 million of estimated foregone CapEx over the next five years. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:05:09This brings our 2021 to 2022 year-to-date total dispositions to approximately $1.4 billion at a blended 17.8x EBITDA multiple, including estimated foregone capital expenditures of $435 million, which compares favorably to our $1.6 billion of acquisitions at a blended 13x EBITDA multiple. Our 2021 acquisitions continued to perform substantially ahead of our underwriting expectations. Based on first quarter performance, EBITDA from our seven new hotel acquisitions and two golf courses is on track to meaningfully outperform our underwriting expectations. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:05:58Looking back on our transaction activity since 2018. We have acquired $3.2 billion of assets at a 14x EBITDA multiple and disposed of $4.9 billion of assets at a 17x EBITDA multiple, including $938 million of foregone capital expenditures over the next five years. Comparing pro forma 2019 results for our current portfolio to 2017, we have increased the RevPAR of our assets by 11%, EBITDA per key by 25%, EBITDA margins by 190 basis points, and avoided considerable business disruption associated with capital projects over the past two years. As we continue to evaluate capital allocation opportunities, our efforts will remain focused on assets that have the potential to bolster our EBITDA growth profile. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:07:02Turning to first quarter operations, our total portfolio pro forma revenue was up 10% sequentially to the fourth quarter, driven by 16% rate growth. Transient revenue was up over 1% compared to the fourth quarter, and rate was up 18%. Putting this into perspective, first quarter transient room revenue was 97% of first quarter 2019. Transient was again driven by our Sunbelt and Hawaiian hotels, where revenue was up 17% sequentially with a 21% improvement in rate, and once again exceeded prior peak levels for the fourth quarter in a row. Drilling down to resorts, outperformance continued as ADR grew by 48%, leading to a transient revenue increase of 42% compared to 2019. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:08:00Our 1 Hotel South Beach and Four Seasons Orlando grew transient revenue over $10 million each, with ADR up 60% to 2019. Group business continued to improve at our hotels during the first quarter. Group revenue was up 33%, driven fairly equally by rate and demand growth compared to the fourth quarter. Despite a weak January, we were encouraged by net booking activity in the quarter for the quarter, which resulted in 682,000 group rooms sold for the quarter. We saw meaningful improvement in banquet and AV revenue as group business continued to return. In the first quarter, banquet and AV revenue increased by $24 million, up 17% over the fourth quarter. As groups get back to in-person meetings, we expect the trend of higher out-of-room spend to continue. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:09:04Looking forward to our expectations for group in 2022, we currently have 3 million definite group room nights on the books, which compares favorably to the 2.7 million group room nights we had on the books for 2022 as of the fourth quarter, after adjusting for our recent dispositions. Group rate in 2022 is up 4% to the first quarter of 2019, a 300 basis point increase over the last quarter, with 1 million definite group room nights on the books in the second quarter. This represents 82% of second quarter 2019 actual group room nights. Last quarter, our 2022 definite group room nights on the books represented 60% of 2019 actuals. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:10:00Adjusted for our transactions and including bookings from the first quarter, 2022 definite group room nights now stand at approximately 70% of 2019 full year actuals. For the remainder of the year, 2022 definite group room night pace is down 14% to 2019, while total group revenue pace is down just 8% to 2019. Sourav will get into more detail on business mix and markets in a few minutes. In addition to delivering significant operational improvements, we continue to execute on our three strategic objectives, all of which are aimed at elevating the EBITDA growth profile of our portfolio. As a reminder, our objectives include redefining the hotel operating model with our operators, gaining market share at hotels through comprehensive renovations, and strategically allocating capital to development ROI projects. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:11:05As a reminder, we are targeting a range of $147 million-$222 million of incremental stabilized EBITDA on an annual basis from the initiatives and projects underlying our three strategic objectives. $100 million-$150 million is expected to come from potential long-term cost savings over time based on 2019 revenues from redefining the operating model with our managers. We have achieved approximately 60% to 70% of these savings to date. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:11:41Another $22 million-$37 million of incremental stabilized EBITDA is related to our goal of gaining three to five points of index growth at the 16 Marriott Transformational Capital Program hotels and eight other hotels, where comprehensive transformational renovations have been recently completed or are underway. Starting with the Marriott Transformational Capital Program portion of our renovations, during the first quarter, we completed the Marina del Rey Marriott and the Houston Marriott Medical Center. This brings the number of completed properties to 12 out of 16 in this program, with 89% of the work complete. We expect to be substantially complete by the end of 2022. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:12:30The remaining Marriott Transformational Capital Program properties include the Boston Marriott Copley Place, the Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina, the JW Marriott in Houston, which will be substantially completed by year-end, and the Washington Marriott at Metro Center in Washington, D.C., which we expect to complete in the first half of 2023. We expect to receive over $11 million in operating profit guarantees from Marriott this year related to these renovations. In total, we expect to invest approximately $750 million on the Marriott Transformational Capital Program assets. As a reminder, we were planning to invest approximately 70% of the $750 million as part of our routine cycle-based renovations. The remaining 30% is ROI-focused CapEx and includes renovation scopes brought forward from future years to create comprehensive transformational renovations. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:13:34We believe these renovations allow us to capture incremental market share, as is the case at The Ritz-Carlton, Amelia Island, where we have seen a RevPAR index share gain of 8 points since May 2021. The Ritz-Carlton, Amelia Island is now the number one hotel in its competitive set, up from three or four historically. In addition to the 16 Marriott Transformational Capital Program assets, we have eight hotels where we have completed or are in the process of completing major renovations. The completed hotels include The Don CeSar, Hyatt Regency Maui, and Hyatt Regency Coconut Point. The Ritz-Carlton, Naples Beach Resort and Miami Marriott Biscayne Bay are both expected to be completed by year-end. The Westin Denver Downtown, The Westin Georgetown in Washington, D.C., and the Fairmont Kea Lani in Maui are scheduled to be finished by mid-2023. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:14:40In total, we expect to invest approximately $420 million on these eight assets over four years, $157 million of which we expect to spend in 2022. Finally, we are targeting another $25 million-$35 million of incremental stabilized EBITDA from four major development ROI projects. During the first quarter, we completed and opened the two-acre River Falls Waterpark and substantially completed the 60,000 sq ft meeting space expansion at our Orlando World Center Marriott. Both of these projects came in ahead of schedule and under budget. As mentioned, by year-end, we expect to complete the expansion at the Ritz-Carlton Naples Beach Resort, which adds to the Andaz Maui at Wailea Resort and AC Hotel Scottsdale North, both of which are complete. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:15:39These four assets make up the current development ROI projects in our third strategic objective, and we continue to identify new development projects that will unlock value within our portfolio. In total, we expect to invest $216 million on these four assets. Stabilization of these projects is expected to occur within two to three years of completion, but we are seeing early signs of outperformance. In addition to the incremental stabilized EBITDA from our three strategic objectives, we expect approximately $120 million to come from the seven hotel and two golf course acquisitions we completed in 2021, all of which are meaningfully outperforming our underwriting for 2022. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:16:30In closing, we continue to improve the quality of our portfolio with our recent dispositions, and we are very pleased with the $1.6 billion of acquisitions we closed on in 2021. As the lodging recovery continues to accelerate, we believe Host is very well positioned to capture a greater share of demand given the investments we have made in our hotels, our improved portfolio quality, and our balance sheet strength. With that, I will now turn the call over to Sourav. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:17:06Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. Building on Jim's comments, I will go into detail on our first quarter top-line performance, margins, and balance sheet before wrapping up with an update on our dividend. Starting with top-line performance, first quarter pro forma RevPAR of $167 was the highest it has been since the onset of the pandemic. The quarter was a tale of two months, with March RevPAR of $221, more than double that of January. Improvements in the quarter were driven by leisure travel in Sunbelt markets and Hawaii. These markets achieved a first quarter RevPAR of $251, a 26% increase over the fourth quarter. Our urban markets experienced the brunt of the Omicron impact in the first half of the quarter, but swiftly recovered, ending March on a high note. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:18:00For comparison, March RevPAR at our urban hotels was $132, up nearly 25% to the fourth quarter of 2021. Turning to transient mix, holidays in the first quarter drove steady sequential growth in both occupancy and transient ADR, with Presidents' Day achieving the highest holiday occupancy since 2019, which was driven by our Sun Belt markets. Our urban hotels achieved 76% occupancy over Easter, which is nearly double that of the MLK holiday weekend. Holiday occupancy in our urban markets outperformed our Sun Belt markets for the second time since the onset of the pandemic, with a rate improvement of 26% over the MLK holiday weekend. Business transient revenue was up 2% in the first quarter with a 4% increase in rate despite the impact from Omicron and winter storms in January. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:19:02Business transient room nights set a recovery record in March, breaking the 100,000 level, and encouragingly, half of those room nights sold were in urban markets. For comparison, that represents a 28% increase over October 2021, which had 78,000 business transient room nights and was the previous high watermark. Providing a little color on a few of our urban markets, in San Francisco, we saw leisure demand starting to pick up in March. Business transient volume was slow for the first two months of the quarter, but our hotels saw a significant spike in March from consulting firms and tech clients. In New York, traditionally strong leisure periods have rebounded to levels approaching 2019. While transient demand remains short-term in nature, we are starting to see the booking window stretch beyond 30 days. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:19:59In March, business transient rooms in New York reached a post-COVID high, and as offices continue to reopen, we expect business transient demand to continue to ramp. Early in the first quarter, Washington, D.C. experienced declines related to cancellations, but all of our hotels saw a meaningful improvement in demand in March due to cherry blossoms and spring break. As government offices reopen, we expect business transient volume to continue to improve. Turning to group, revenue increased 33% over the fourth quarter, driven by 14% demand growth, combined with a 17% improvement in rate. Most of the room night increase came from our hotels in Orlando, Maui, and San Diego, where we saw incentive business from corporate groups come back into the mix. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:20:52As it relates to overall group business, banquet and catering revenue was up 17% over the fourth quarter and clearly showed that groups are willing to spend when they meet in person. Banquet revenue per group room night exceeded 2019 levels in the first quarter for the first time in the recovery, ending 7% higher, with March absolute banquet and catering revenue down just 10% to 2019. Corporate group revenue increased 41% over the fourth quarter, driven by 17% demand growth and a 21% increase in rate. Corporate group room nights picked up meaningfully each month in the quarter and ended at 70% of 2019 levels in March. Orlando and San Diego hotels drove most of the demand growth in this sub-segment. Association groups also showed steady sequential improvements. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:21:49First quarter association group room nights increased 26% over the fourth quarter with a 13% increase in rate. Shifting gears to expenses, total pro forma expenses were down 17% to first quarter 2019, in line with the total revenue decline. Staffing at our hotels remains at 94% of desired levels based on business volumes versus 97% historically. Hotels hit pause on hiring during Omicron and were unable to keep up as demand surged back in February and March. While our hotels continue to fill open roles, a lag between demand and staffing levels still exists. This has acted as an offset to wages and benefits expense quarter over quarter. Briefly touching on our efforts to redefine the operating model, we have made meaningful progress on evolving brand standards with our operators. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:22:48Marriott recently announced over 200 brand standard revisions that aim to reduce costs, align standards across brands and segments, enable greater operational flexibility, and eliminate outdated standards. Some examples include removing alarm clocks, printed compendiums, and premium channels from guest rooms. Our operators have also moved to residential style amenities in luxury hotel rooms and revamped the food and beverage options and hours of operation in many hotels to align with customer preferences. We expect brand standards to continue to evolve as we work with our operators to enhance efficiencies. Taken together, a strong top line and expense controls have allowed our margin to continue to meaningfully improve. Our pro forma hotel EBITDA margin in the first quarter was 31.4%, which is just 10 basis points below that of the first quarter 2019. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:23:51For comparison, this represents a 350 basis point increase to our fourth quarter hotel EBITDA margin, which was 27.9%. First quarter margin improvement was primarily a result of strong ADR and cancellation revenue. As demand and rate quickly recovered from a decline in January. March had the highest monthly hotel EBITDA margin in Host's history for today's pro forma portfolio at 41%. Turning to our outlook for 2022, we are still unable to provide full year operational guidance given the continued volatility surrounding COVID. That said, we believe sequential quarterly RevPAR improvements will continue as declines to 2019 diminish throughout the year. We expect second quarter RevPAR to be between $195 and $205, or down 8% to down 3% relative to 2019. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:24:55This RevPAR range implies an adjusted EBITDAre range of $375 million-$410 million for the second quarter. We expect sustained strength in leisure as well as business transient and group demand to continue accelerating in our urban markets as companies get back on the road and groups get back to meeting in person. We have seen a recovery in international travel, particularly from Canada, Germany and the U.K. New York remains the top destination market, followed by San Francisco and Seattle, and we expect sequential improvements in international demand over the course of this year. Given the cadence of the lodging recovery, it is difficult to provide an accurate forecast for the year. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:25:44While we expect sequential RevPAR improvements relative to 2019, seasonality and changing market and business mix are expected to lead to lower RevPAR and margins for the second half of the year relative to the second quarter. For reference, the third quarter has typically been our weakest quarter of the year, and as is historically the case, we would expect third quarter RevPAR and margins to be below that of the second quarter. Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity position, our weighted average maturity is 5.3 years at a weighted average interest rate of 3.4%, and we have no significant maturities until 2024. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:26:27After accounting for our two hotel dispositions in April, we now have $2 billion in total available liquidity, comprised of approximately $439 million of cash, $162 million of FF&E reserves, and a full availability of our $1.5 billion credit facility. Wrapping up, I am pleased to share that the board of directors authorized a second quarter dividend of $0.06 per share on Host common stock, a 100% increase over the prior quarter. All future dividends are subject to approval by the company's board of directors. As the operational recovery continues, we expect to be able to grow our dividends to a sustainable level. To conclude, we are optimistic that 2022 will continue to build on the strong momentum of the past few quarters. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:27:19We remain very well positioned to execute on our goal of increasing the EBITDA growth profile and improving the performance of our portfolio. With that, we would be happy to take your questions. To ensure we have time to address as many questions as possible, please limit yourself to one question. Operator00:27:40Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now open for questions. If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone. Please hold while we poll for questions. Your first question is coming from Chris Woronka from Deutsche Bank. Your line is live. Chris WoronkaSenior Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:28:11Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for all the data points. I guess I'll ask the obvious one, which is the 2Q guidance with what you said about April, and I understand there's normally seasonally a drop in May and June, but you know, I think the basic math is suggesting a bigger than normal drop, like a double-digit drop versus 19. Can you just give us a little bit of color on how you're thinking about that? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:28:38Sure, Chris. You know, we have talked a lot about the Q1 performance and April performance internally at Host, and we just don't think we're gonna be able to sustain the level of rate that we achieved in Q1 and in the month of April at our resort properties. The spring break that occurred this year was off the charts. It really was very strong and we expect to see some moderation back to the mean as we see a rotation from spring breakers back into the urban markets, group and business transient coming back. You know, that's the reason why we brought the guidance down for Q2. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:29:51Strong April, but we expect May and June to moderate. May is definitely gonna be lower than April. June may be slightly above May at this point in time. Chris WoronkaSenior Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:30:04Okay. Very helpful. Thanks, Jim. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:30:07Sure. Operator00:30:09Thank you. Your next question is coming from Neil Malkin from Capital One Securities. Your line is live. Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:30:16Hi, everyone. Good morning. Jim, question for you, kind of along the same lines, but in terms of, you know, maybe just leisure, you know, resorts or, you know, probably more so the other, you know, urban or group hotels. Can you just talk about what out-of-room total spending looks like? I mean, at least from our expectations, it's continued to just be, you know, really strong. I know that, you know, people. You've, I think, alluded to, even though rate, it may not be sustainable at some of these resorts, the other side of the revenue equation should pick up as group and core travel segments come back. Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:30:59Can you just talk about what you're seeing there, the total out-of-room and how to think about that maybe as we go forward in terms of out-of-room spending on a per occupied level? Thanks. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:31:11Sure. You know, at our 16 resorts in the first quarter, Neil, we had outlet revenue per available room of $180, which is clearly a high watermark for our portfolio. I would say probably industry-wide, it's a high watermark. As we look at outlet revenue in the aggregate, it was just 7% below Q1 2019. That's all driven by five resorts at this point in time. I think our resort performance was +40% on a pro forma basis to Q1 2019. The same, and Sourav touched on this in his prepared remarks, the same with respect to banquets at our hotels that are driven by group. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:32:07I mean, that banquets were +$24 million to quarter four. You know, the per group room night, the banquet dollars exceeded 2019 by 7%. What we're seeing on corporate, and it's mostly driven by corporate group at this point in time. What we're seeing is, you know, the groups that are signing up are being cautious regarding what commitments they're making on a spend basis, both from a rooms perspective and out-of-room spend, given what happened with Omicron in January and February and, you know, the attendant attrition and cancellation fees. But when they arrive at the hotels, they're spending a lot more money than they contracted for, which makes it a little bit difficult to forecast going forward. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:33:02That's one of the reasons why we're not comfortable talking about the second half of the year, but talking about the second quarter at this point in time. Does that answer your question? Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:33:16Yeah, I think so. I mean, I'm just curious. You know, again, I understand, like, the decline in RevPAR, but I mean, you do expect, just to be clear, you know, especially given your guidance in terms of bookings or room nights on the groups side, the out-of-room or the non-room related revenue or trend to continue its upward track, correct? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:33:41Absolutely. I only touched on outlet revenue and banquet revenue. I mean, we have seen, you know, a very strong, upward trajectory, on golf revenues and on spa revenues. You know, parking is relatively flat, and we, you know, we expect that to pick up as people get back, on the road and start traveling again. We see no downturn whatsoever in golf or spa revenues. You know, the one area that, you know, it did have an impact on our first quarter performance were attrition and cancellation fees of, $26 million, and that's relative to $13 million, that we collected in, Q1 of 2019. I wouldn't expect to see, that level of, cancellation and attrition fees going forward. The other out-of-room spend should continue to grow. Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:34:44Thank you. Operator00:34:47Thank you. Your next question is coming from Smedes Rose from Citi. Your line is live. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:34:54Hi, thank you. I just wanted to ask, Sourav, as you think about, I guess margin going forward, you noted that margins came very close to pre-pandemic levels and RevPAR is still quite a bit below. You know, as RevPAR continues to improve, even if it's somewhat seasonal or more choppy going forward, how do you think about the flow-through of incremental RevPAR gains? And would it be fair to assume that they might be more occupancy-driven at this point versus rate-driven, or how are you thinking about that? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:35:29Hey, Smedes. I would say, you know, take a look at sort of how we performed in 2019 on a quarterly basis. Given that we have come back much quicker than expected and in terms of just getting back to normal seasonality, and that's obviously what's impacting our Q2 guidance, when you look at margin performance, it would be very similar to what we saw back in 2019. The only thing I would say is obviously when you are growing revenues, rooms revenues more driven by rate, that will flow through better. In other words, you know, you can expect sort of Q2 margins no different from Q1, sort of first quarter of 2019, where it's slightly better than the first quarter. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:36:18If you look at the third quarter of 2019, there is a marked difference in what happens in margins just because rate drops. Back in 2019, if I remember correctly, rate dropped. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:36:29Are close to, like, 10%, and there was a margin drop of about 600 basis points. Similar in terms of seasonality is what we would expect. You would still expect sequential top-line growth relative to 2019, but you will see the absolute revenue numbers sort of follow the same patterns as we saw back in 2019. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:36:51Okay. Can I just ask you one quick question? You mentioned 3 million group room nights on the books for 2023. That looks like somewhere between maybe 18-19 points of occupancy at this point. Where would you be now at a pre-pandemic going into the following year in terms of sort of points of occupancy on the books? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:12No, what I would say is where we were pre-pandemic is at about 3.9 million group room nights at the same time. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:19Okay. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:20What's important to keep in mind here is we are talking about the full year, right? Q1 obviously was impacted because of Omicron. The way to think about it is more the remainder of the year. Remainder of the year, we have 2.3 million group room nights, so that's Q2 through Q4. At the same time, back in 2019, for the remainder of the year, we had 2.7 million group room nights. Does that make sense? Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:46Yeah. Sorry, I thought you were talking about for 2023. You're talking about for this year's group room nights. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:51No. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:51Okay. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:52I'm talking 2022. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:56Got it. Thank you. Sorry, I misunderstood. Okay. Operator00:38:04Thank you. Your next question is coming from Bill Crow from Raymond James. Your line is live. Bill CrowManaging Director at Raymond James00:38:10Hey. Good morning. Thank you. Jim, just to put a little finer point on this whole sequential discussion, how much of this change in RevPAR is mix driven, more group on the books for June, for example, than there was in the first quarter? Some more mix, more business transient group. Or how much of it is just, you know, travel demand in some of those Sun Belt markets that caused all the compression, and the pricing is just being more, you know, dispersed to New York and Boston and Chicago? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:38:47I think it's a combination of all the above, Bill, clearly. You know, I don't want to give the impression that our 16 resorts and those five properties that had over $1,000 in ADR for the quarter are gonna fall off the face of the earth. They're not. I mean, the demand is still there. We're still seeing it. I think as we get past, you know, we are past April, we're gonna get, as we get into June, we have some seasonality issues associated with the resorts. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:39:24You know, as an example, you know, the One Hotel South Beach in Miami, the Ritz-Carlton in Naples, Four Seasons Orlando, you know, just natural seasonality, we think may temper some of the demand at those properties. Then, you know, we are seeing group and business transient come back, which is going to clearly result in a RevPAR that in the aggregate is lower than what we saw in the first quarter and in the month of April. We're delighted to have the business. Make no mistake about it. We're, you know, we're very excited to see group and BT come back as strong as they have been coming back. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:40:11You know, having the resort portfolio that we do and having put $1.6 billion to work last year with assets that have really meaningfully outperformed our expectations has in our mind served as a good bridge to get us to the point where business transient and group recover. It's a combination of all the above. Bill CrowManaging Director at Raymond James00:40:35If I could just ask a follow-up on kind of the health of the consumer. I'm curious whether you're seeing points redemptions picking up. If so, does that represent some pushback on these rates at the resorts or maybe a concession that inflation is starting to eat away at the consumer's wallet? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:40:58I'll let Sourav get into it, but the short answer is no. We have looked at redemption numbers, and we don't think that is having an impact at all at this point in time. In fact, you know, for as an example, for Alila Ventana, we're delighted that that hotel is part of the World of Hyatt, because that's the redemption numbers at that property really go a long way to allowing us to drive outsized RevPAR, just given the small number of rooms that are there. When we can really revenue manage down to the last room, that is how our redemption rate is set. It's been very positive for us. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:41:48Sourav, I don't know, do you wanna add a little bit of color on what we're seeing? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:41:53Sure. Net net, it's actually incremental for us because if you think about sort of where we are getting those redemption room nights, they're primarily in the resort destinations, which has very high occupancy, and majority of our hotels in our portfolio are high redemption hotels. We actually get a higher reimbursement rate at those hotels. Obviously at a higher occupancy thresholds, it ends up being incremental in terms of revenue that's being driven by those redemption room nights. Bill CrowManaging Director at Raymond James00:42:24Okay. Thank y'all for your time. Operator00:42:28Thank you. Your next question is coming from David Katz from Jefferies. Your line is live. David KatzManaging Director at Jefferies00:42:39Morning. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to—you've talked quite a bit about, you know, the strength of the balance sheet, and, you know, I think the presumption is that there would be other properties out there that, you know, would be viable targets, you know, in the next 12 months. I'm just wondering, you know, if we can expand that view a little bit, whether there are, you know, portfolios or even, you know, whether corporate M&A would even be within or outside the boundaries. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:43:17We are, you know, constantly evaluating investment opportunities, David. You know what? I think what has happened, at least through our lens, as we view the world today, as other hotel owners have seen the cadence of the recovery, we're seeing one of two things happening. Pricing expectations for a number of the properties that have been in the market early in this year have been beyond our reach. We just have not been able to pencil the underwriting to make sense. Other assets that we would like to buy, and that's because everyone is expecting a strong recovery, which obviously our first quarter results and our April numbers are validating, as we move into 2022 and beyond. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:44:19Other assets that we might wanna acquire just aren't available for sale right now as owners sit and wait until cash flow recovers. You know, we are very well positioned, there's no question about it. You know, we have $2 billion of available liquidity today. As the year progresses, that liquidity position will grow. It puts us in a very strong position as we get later into this year and opportunities become available to really pivot and again be the buyer of choice as we were last year and take deals down all cash, and not have to worry about the state of the debt capital markets today, which have gotten a little bit choppy. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:45:13Less loan to value proceeds, higher interest rates, given the commentary and actions that the Fed has taken. I think that, you know, patience is warranted at this point in time. We clearly are gonna use the balance sheet. Beyond delighted that we were able to do what we did last year and get ahead of the curve and put $1.6 billion to work early in the cycle. I think everything's on the table. You know, it's very difficult to speculate on what might become available that meets our underwriting criteria. David KatzManaging Director at Jefferies00:45:56I appreciate that. If I can follow up briefly. Just with respect to the kinds of markets where you would or wouldn't be, you know, there's an argument, right? You know, we see where companies are buying, you know, more Sun Belt oriented. You know, I wonder if there isn't a contrarian view, you know, where some markets that may be, you know, under some pressure or duress today or underperforming today might be, you know, some places to hunt for value. I just wonder what your thoughts are on that. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:46:34Let me start by saying that we don't have a red line through any market. It really is dependent upon our view of value and likely performance going forward. I agree with you know, that you know, I think the puck is still going to the Sun Belt markets. I don't think that's gonna change. You know, resorts in particular, you know, for a number of reasons. Number one is very, very low levels of supply in those markets, in the resort markets in general. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:47:10If opportunities presented themselves in some of the markets that are at the bottom of the recovery list, and we thought that they were priced fairly and that we could add value, and that the investment would serve to elevate the EBITDA growth profile of the portfolio, which is what we're really focused on doing, we would certainly be prepared to transact. David KatzManaging Director at Jefferies00:47:40Understood. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Operator00:47:45Thank you. Your next question is coming from Ari Klein from BMO. Your line is live. Ari KleinVP of Equity Research at BMO00:47:52Thanks, good morning. Just following up on the resort rates. You know, clearly it seems like there's some seasonality at play over the next few months. You know, as you look further ahead and comps begin to get much tougher kind of in the second half of the year and I guess the beginning of next year, are you expecting, you know, rates to actually decline a bit? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:48:20Hey, Ari, it's Sourav. I think, you know, while rates will temper, and a lot of it will be just natural business mix, and market mix, so shifting of demand to different markets as opposed to the strength of the leisure rate in those specific markets. We still expect, and just based on the demand that we are seeing, into the, you know, next quarter and even the second half of the year, we are of the belief that the leisure rates are still going to hold pretty strong. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:48:52Probably, frankly, well into next year. There's still a lot of pent-up demand, and once international borders really open up to the U.S., we think there is, you know, a meaningful amount of demand that's going to help sort of sustain those rates. Obviously, very difficult to tell to what magnitude. It will be tempered as sort of the market mix takes place. We still feel pretty strong about the leisure rates going through the rest of this year and into next year. Ari KleinVP of Equity Research at BMO00:49:24Great. Thanks for the color. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:49:26Sure. Operator00:49:30Question is from Anthony Powell from Barclays. Your line is live. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:49:35Hi, good morning. You know, sorry to keep focusing on this leisure performance in May and June, but I kind of want to ask another question on that. We've seen strong pricing and demand on holiday weekends. There are two weekends coming up. There's Memorial Day and also Juneteenth. Just checking some of your properties on both of those weekends, they seem to be asking for very high pricing. What are you seeing in the booking window for those two specific weekends? Are you seeing any, I guess, incremental weakness or softness or price resistance as we approach those time periods? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:50:09Specifically for Memorial Day, and this is again, going back to sort of still the short-term, lead time, we are seeing actually pace of 12% above 2019 levels. Still, holding very strong, for holidays. Sunbelt markets are pushing rates really nicely with rates on the books up 44% versus same time, 2019. But overall, still very strong performance, for, you know, the upcoming holidays. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:50:42What about Juneteenth? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:50:44I don't specifically have Juneteenth numbers handy, but we can certainly get back to you. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:50:51I guess you're not really seeing, I guess, in the upcoming holiday weekends, any kind of, I guess, relative price softening versus what you saw in April or even Presidents' Day. Is that fair? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:51:01That's fair. We're not seeing any softening. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:51:05All right. Thank you. Operator00:51:08Thank you. Your next question is coming from Jay Kornreich from SMBC. Your line is live. Jay KornreichVP of REIT Equity Research at SMBC00:51:16Hey, good morning. It's Jay. It's kind of a follow-up to a previous question. You know, with the strong recovery in business transient urban demand, it was interesting to see your Boston and New York asset dispositions. Kind of just curious how you think about your asset allocation plan and whether it may shift back to preserving your urban footprint, which is recovering, versus maybe disposing in those markets and focusing more on the outperforming Sunbelt and resort assets. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:51:43Sure, Jay. You know, those two assets were, they each had a unique set of circumstances surrounding them that drove us to dispose of the properties. You know, in Boston, let me say before I get into specifics about each of these two assets, we still have a healthy presence in both markets. You know, in Boston, we have the Boston Marriott Copley Place, which is a part of the Marriott Transformational Capital Program, we're in the midst of a complete renovation of that asset. Clearly, you know, we are committed to the Boston market. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:52:26The Sheraton, given its location in the Back Bay and the size of the hotel and the plans on the part of the State of Massachusetts to sell the Hynes Convention Center, which the hotel was very dependent upon for groups. It doesn't have an adequate meeting space platform to service groups. You know, the group business in Boston now has moved to the main convention center. The hotel needed a lot of capital, a significant amount of deferred CapEx at that property. It just made a lot more sense for us to dispose of that asset. You know, similarly with the Sheraton in New York. We have the New York Marriott Marquis in Times Square and the New York Marriott Downtown in downtown New York. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:53:21Both are in incredible shape. They were both part of the Marriott Transformational Capital program. The assets are well-primed to really outperform as the recovery continues apace, whereas the Sheraton, again, an older hotel in need of substantial CapEx. The Sheraton was forecasted to lose $15 million at the EBITDA line in 2022. You know, I think those two dispositions will go a long way to allowing us to elevate the EBITDA growth profile of the company. Taking the capital from those sales and investing that capital either in our existing portfolio through ROI projects or making additional acquisitions going forward is part of our capital allocation strategy. Jay KornreichVP of REIT Equity Research at SMBC00:54:23Great. That's really helpful. If I could just ask, you know, one follow-up. As we're seeing a nice recovery in the business transient in all the urban markets, can you just give us a little perspective on how San Francisco is shaping up and how you expect the market to perform in the second half of the year? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:54:40Yeah, sure. San Francisco is actually shaping up better than we were expecting. San Francisco, I'll give you an example. San Francisco Marriott Marquis actually had 1,000 rooms per night midweek last three weeks of March. The BT on the books for the last week of April is almost flat to 2019. Overall, pretty good see-through for San Francisco in terms of BT pickup. Jay KornreichVP of REIT Equity Research at SMBC00:55:07Okay. Really helpful. Thanks. Thanks very much. Operator00:55:12Thank you. Your next question is coming from Floris van Dijkum from Compass Point. Your line is live. Floris van DijkumManaging Director at Compass Point00:55:20Great. Thanks, guys, for taking my question. You know, if I look at your EBITDA numbers, particularly if I look at your resort markets relative to 2019, you know, obviously the resorts have been really strong. San Francisco has been lagging, D.C. has been lagging. New York is not really that big, but you know, that has also been a troubled market. As you think about, you know, the recovery that we're seeing in the urban markets, I mean, in your view I know that people are talking a little bit about, you know, sequential growth here, but you're at 83% of your EBITDA, hotel EBITDA already in the U.S., in the first quarter. Floris van DijkumManaging Director at Compass Point00:56:10Some of your competitors, you know, think they can achieve that by the fourth quarter of this year. Is that your house view of potential? I know you're not giving guidance, but certainly is that how comfortable are you being able to achieve, you know, those kinds of levels by the fourth quarter of this year? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:56:36I don't think we're really comfortable talking about you know the second half of the year. It's very difficult at this point in time to forecast how this recovery is gonna continue to unfold. So much of the business is being booked short term, although we are starting to see the booking window extend. You know, as I mentioned, a very valid point we think is on the corporate group business that we're seeing. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:57:07You know, the contracts that are being signed are for lower levels of food and beverage spend and smaller numbers of attendees than that are showing up because they just don't wanna be dealing with attrition and cancellation fees if they have to cancel or if there, you know, there is another event that as we saw in January and February. At this point in time, you know, I think we're confident, and we feel really good about what we're seeing in terms of group bookings for the balance of this year. We had a nice pickup over Q4, where we had 2.7 million definites on the books. At the end of Q1, we had 3 million definite room nights on the books. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:58:02That compares, I think, to $3.9 million in Q1 of 2019 for 2020. We continue to close the gap going forward. The same with business transient. You know, it's coming back. We think it's going to continue to evolve as offices open. We feel good about it, but we're just not in a position to give any guidance for the balance of the year. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:58:29Fair enough. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:58:31I would just add, I mean, if there's any indication in terms of what we did in March as a presentation of where we see the trends heading, I think, you know, we mentioned our prepared remarks. March was over 100,000 room nights, which is now the high water mark. If you remember back in 2021, we hit the last high water mark was at 78,000 room nights in October of 2021. That's a 28% increase. What we can say is we see that trend continuing into April. As Jim said, since the lead times are short, it's difficult to have visibility on BT well into the second half, but the trends are at least positive. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:59:09March ADR for BT was $223, and that's down only 1.6% to 2019. Floris van DijkumManaging Director at Compass Point00:59:18Thanks, Sourav. Appreciate it. Operator00:59:22Thank you. Your next question is coming from Chris Darling from Green Street. Your line is live. Chris DarlingEquity Research Analyst at Green Street00:59:29Thanks. Good morning. Just to put a finer point on what you're seeing on BT and group demand, I'm hoping you could just walk through how weekday occupancy specifically is trending relative to 2019 in some of your, you know, major urban markets? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:59:48For the major urban markets, the weekday occupancy is still lower than what, you know, where we would like it to be, but it's trending in the right direction. I think that's the important point. From the last time we spoke in the fourth quarter call, there has been like a, you know, four to five point improvement in midweek occupancies. That's where sort of, you know, we've been focused. Weekend occupancy has obviously improved meaningfully in those urban markets, but that trend continues. Chris DarlingEquity Research Analyst at Green Street01:00:21Fair enough. I don't know if you have the numbers in front of you, but just curious, you know, how that might compare to, you know, kind of pre-COVID levels. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts01:00:32We are still down, I would say, about, you know, sort of high double digits or 18-20 percentage points in occupancy in those markets midweek. Chris DarlingEquity Research Analyst at Green Street01:00:44Gotcha. Appreciate it. Thank you. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts01:00:47Sure. Operator01:00:52Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I will now hand the conference back to Jim Risoleo, Chief Executive Officer, for closing remarks. Please go ahead. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts01:01:01Thank you. I would like to thank everyone for joining us on our call today. We appreciate the opportunity to discuss our quarterly results with you. We all look forward to meeting with many of you in person in the coming weeks and months. We really appreciate your continued support. Have a great day. Operator01:01:23Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Host Hotels & Resorts first quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Jaime Marcus, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Jaime MarcusSVP of Investor Relations at Host Hotels & Resorts00:00:15Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Before we begin, please note that many of the comments made today are considered to be forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. As described in our filings with the SEC, these statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause future results to differ from those expressed, and we are not obligated to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements. In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial information, such as FFO, adjusted EBITDAre, and hotel-level results. You can find this information, together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP information, in yesterday's earnings press release, in our 8-K filed with the SEC, and in the supplemental financial information on our website at hosthotels.com. Jaime MarcusSVP of Investor Relations at Host Hotels & Resorts00:01:11With me on today's call will be Jim Risoleo, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Sourav Ghosh, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Jim. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:01:26Thank you, Jamie, and thanks to everyone for joining us this morning. We kicked off the first quarter of 2022 with meaningful outperformance and once again substantially beat all consensus metrics for the quarter. We delivered adjusted EBITDAre of $306 million and adjusted FFO per share of $0.39 during the quarter. All owned hotel pro forma EBITDA of $330 million in the first quarter was just 18% below 2019, and March pro forma hotel EBITDA came in 8% above 2019, driven by significant rate growth at our resorts. Pro forma total revenues in the first quarter increased 10% sequentially over the fourth quarter, while pro forma hotel-level operating expenses grew 5%. The increase in revenues was driven by improvements across rooms, F&B, and other departments. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:02:32Pro forma RevPAR for the first quarter was $167, an 11% improvement from the fourth quarter as rates continued to increase in our Sun Belt markets and hold up at our urban hotels. This is the highest quarterly RevPAR we have seen since the onset of the pandemic, bringing our RevPAR to approximately 18% below first quarter 2019 levels. Our recent acquisitions, dispositions, and renovated properties continued to contribute to our performance during the first quarter. Notably, we had five hotels with ADRs of over $1,000. Preliminary April RevPAR is expected to be approximately $225-$230, which is up slightly to our March RevPAR. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:03:26It is worth pointing out that our preliminary April monthly RevPAR represents the first time that our monthly RevPAR is expected to exceed 2019 levels since the onset of the pandemic. However, consistent with historical monthly trends, we expect to see a pullback in May and June relative to 2019 levels. In addition to Maui and San Diego, we are pleased to see urban markets such as New York, Washington, D.C., and San Francisco driving the outperformance to our forecast. In short, all business segments and markets are trending in a positive direction, and we are very pleased with our performance. Subsequent to quarter end, we sold the 1,780-key Sheraton New York Times Square Hotel for $373 million, or 28x 2019 EBITDA. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:04:27When calculating the EBITDA multiple, we included $136 million of estimated foregone CapEx over the next five years. In connection with the sale, we are providing a $250 million bridge loan to the purchaser. In addition, we sold the 243-key hotel, YVE Miami, for $50 million, including $1 million for the FF&E replacement funds, or 23.2x 2019 EBITDA. When calculating the EBITDA multiple, we included $9.5 million of estimated foregone CapEx over the next five years. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:05:09This brings our 2021 to 2022 year-to-date total dispositions to approximately $1.4 billion at a blended 17.8x EBITDA multiple, including estimated foregone capital expenditures of $435 million, which compares favorably to our $1.6 billion of acquisitions at a blended 13x EBITDA multiple. Our 2021 acquisitions continued to perform substantially ahead of our underwriting expectations. Based on first quarter performance, EBITDA from our seven new hotel acquisitions and two golf courses is on track to meaningfully outperform our underwriting expectations. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:05:58Looking back on our transaction activity since 2018. We have acquired $3.2 billion of assets at a 14x EBITDA multiple and disposed of $4.9 billion of assets at a 17x EBITDA multiple, including $938 million of foregone capital expenditures over the next five years. Comparing pro forma 2019 results for our current portfolio to 2017, we have increased the RevPAR of our assets by 11%, EBITDA per key by 25%, EBITDA margins by 190 basis points, and avoided considerable business disruption associated with capital projects over the past two years. As we continue to evaluate capital allocation opportunities, our efforts will remain focused on assets that have the potential to bolster our EBITDA growth profile. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:07:02Turning to first quarter operations, our total portfolio pro forma revenue was up 10% sequentially to the fourth quarter, driven by 16% rate growth. Transient revenue was up over 1% compared to the fourth quarter, and rate was up 18%. Putting this into perspective, first quarter transient room revenue was 97% of first quarter 2019. Transient was again driven by our Sunbelt and Hawaiian hotels, where revenue was up 17% sequentially with a 21% improvement in rate, and once again exceeded prior peak levels for the fourth quarter in a row. Drilling down to resorts, outperformance continued as ADR grew by 48%, leading to a transient revenue increase of 42% compared to 2019. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:08:00Our 1 Hotel South Beach and Four Seasons Orlando grew transient revenue over $10 million each, with ADR up 60% to 2019. Group business continued to improve at our hotels during the first quarter. Group revenue was up 33%, driven fairly equally by rate and demand growth compared to the fourth quarter. Despite a weak January, we were encouraged by net booking activity in the quarter for the quarter, which resulted in 682,000 group rooms sold for the quarter. We saw meaningful improvement in banquet and AV revenue as group business continued to return. In the first quarter, banquet and AV revenue increased by $24 million, up 17% over the fourth quarter. As groups get back to in-person meetings, we expect the trend of higher out-of-room spend to continue. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:09:04Looking forward to our expectations for group in 2022, we currently have 3 million definite group room nights on the books, which compares favorably to the 2.7 million group room nights we had on the books for 2022 as of the fourth quarter, after adjusting for our recent dispositions. Group rate in 2022 is up 4% to the first quarter of 2019, a 300 basis point increase over the last quarter, with 1 million definite group room nights on the books in the second quarter. This represents 82% of second quarter 2019 actual group room nights. Last quarter, our 2022 definite group room nights on the books represented 60% of 2019 actuals. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:10:00Adjusted for our transactions and including bookings from the first quarter, 2022 definite group room nights now stand at approximately 70% of 2019 full year actuals. For the remainder of the year, 2022 definite group room night pace is down 14% to 2019, while total group revenue pace is down just 8% to 2019. Sourav will get into more detail on business mix and markets in a few minutes. In addition to delivering significant operational improvements, we continue to execute on our three strategic objectives, all of which are aimed at elevating the EBITDA growth profile of our portfolio. As a reminder, our objectives include redefining the hotel operating model with our operators, gaining market share at hotels through comprehensive renovations, and strategically allocating capital to development ROI projects. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:11:05As a reminder, we are targeting a range of $147 million-$222 million of incremental stabilized EBITDA on an annual basis from the initiatives and projects underlying our three strategic objectives. $100 million-$150 million is expected to come from potential long-term cost savings over time based on 2019 revenues from redefining the operating model with our managers. We have achieved approximately 60% to 70% of these savings to date. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:11:41Another $22 million-$37 million of incremental stabilized EBITDA is related to our goal of gaining three to five points of index growth at the 16 Marriott Transformational Capital Program hotels and eight other hotels, where comprehensive transformational renovations have been recently completed or are underway. Starting with the Marriott Transformational Capital Program portion of our renovations, during the first quarter, we completed the Marina del Rey Marriott and the Houston Marriott Medical Center. This brings the number of completed properties to 12 out of 16 in this program, with 89% of the work complete. We expect to be substantially complete by the end of 2022. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:12:30The remaining Marriott Transformational Capital Program properties include the Boston Marriott Copley Place, the Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina, the JW Marriott in Houston, which will be substantially completed by year-end, and the Washington Marriott at Metro Center in Washington, D.C., which we expect to complete in the first half of 2023. We expect to receive over $11 million in operating profit guarantees from Marriott this year related to these renovations. In total, we expect to invest approximately $750 million on the Marriott Transformational Capital Program assets. As a reminder, we were planning to invest approximately 70% of the $750 million as part of our routine cycle-based renovations. The remaining 30% is ROI-focused CapEx and includes renovation scopes brought forward from future years to create comprehensive transformational renovations. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:13:34We believe these renovations allow us to capture incremental market share, as is the case at The Ritz-Carlton, Amelia Island, where we have seen a RevPAR index share gain of 8 points since May 2021. The Ritz-Carlton, Amelia Island is now the number one hotel in its competitive set, up from three or four historically. In addition to the 16 Marriott Transformational Capital Program assets, we have eight hotels where we have completed or are in the process of completing major renovations. The completed hotels include The Don CeSar, Hyatt Regency Maui, and Hyatt Regency Coconut Point. The Ritz-Carlton, Naples Beach Resort and Miami Marriott Biscayne Bay are both expected to be completed by year-end. The Westin Denver Downtown, The Westin Georgetown in Washington, D.C., and the Fairmont Kea Lani in Maui are scheduled to be finished by mid-2023. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:14:40In total, we expect to invest approximately $420 million on these eight assets over four years, $157 million of which we expect to spend in 2022. Finally, we are targeting another $25 million-$35 million of incremental stabilized EBITDA from four major development ROI projects. During the first quarter, we completed and opened the two-acre River Falls Waterpark and substantially completed the 60,000 sq ft meeting space expansion at our Orlando World Center Marriott. Both of these projects came in ahead of schedule and under budget. As mentioned, by year-end, we expect to complete the expansion at the Ritz-Carlton Naples Beach Resort, which adds to the Andaz Maui at Wailea Resort and AC Hotel Scottsdale North, both of which are complete. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:15:39These four assets make up the current development ROI projects in our third strategic objective, and we continue to identify new development projects that will unlock value within our portfolio. In total, we expect to invest $216 million on these four assets. Stabilization of these projects is expected to occur within two to three years of completion, but we are seeing early signs of outperformance. In addition to the incremental stabilized EBITDA from our three strategic objectives, we expect approximately $120 million to come from the seven hotel and two golf course acquisitions we completed in 2021, all of which are meaningfully outperforming our underwriting for 2022. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:16:30In closing, we continue to improve the quality of our portfolio with our recent dispositions, and we are very pleased with the $1.6 billion of acquisitions we closed on in 2021. As the lodging recovery continues to accelerate, we believe Host is very well positioned to capture a greater share of demand given the investments we have made in our hotels, our improved portfolio quality, and our balance sheet strength. With that, I will now turn the call over to Sourav. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:17:06Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. Building on Jim's comments, I will go into detail on our first quarter top-line performance, margins, and balance sheet before wrapping up with an update on our dividend. Starting with top-line performance, first quarter pro forma RevPAR of $167 was the highest it has been since the onset of the pandemic. The quarter was a tale of two months, with March RevPAR of $221, more than double that of January. Improvements in the quarter were driven by leisure travel in Sunbelt markets and Hawaii. These markets achieved a first quarter RevPAR of $251, a 26% increase over the fourth quarter. Our urban markets experienced the brunt of the Omicron impact in the first half of the quarter, but swiftly recovered, ending March on a high note. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:18:00For comparison, March RevPAR at our urban hotels was $132, up nearly 25% to the fourth quarter of 2021. Turning to transient mix, holidays in the first quarter drove steady sequential growth in both occupancy and transient ADR, with Presidents' Day achieving the highest holiday occupancy since 2019, which was driven by our Sun Belt markets. Our urban hotels achieved 76% occupancy over Easter, which is nearly double that of the MLK holiday weekend. Holiday occupancy in our urban markets outperformed our Sun Belt markets for the second time since the onset of the pandemic, with a rate improvement of 26% over the MLK holiday weekend. Business transient revenue was up 2% in the first quarter with a 4% increase in rate despite the impact from Omicron and winter storms in January. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:19:02Business transient room nights set a recovery record in March, breaking the 100,000 level, and encouragingly, half of those room nights sold were in urban markets. For comparison, that represents a 28% increase over October 2021, which had 78,000 business transient room nights and was the previous high watermark. Providing a little color on a few of our urban markets, in San Francisco, we saw leisure demand starting to pick up in March. Business transient volume was slow for the first two months of the quarter, but our hotels saw a significant spike in March from consulting firms and tech clients. In New York, traditionally strong leisure periods have rebounded to levels approaching 2019. While transient demand remains short-term in nature, we are starting to see the booking window stretch beyond 30 days. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:19:59In March, business transient rooms in New York reached a post-COVID high, and as offices continue to reopen, we expect business transient demand to continue to ramp. Early in the first quarter, Washington, D.C. experienced declines related to cancellations, but all of our hotels saw a meaningful improvement in demand in March due to cherry blossoms and spring break. As government offices reopen, we expect business transient volume to continue to improve. Turning to group, revenue increased 33% over the fourth quarter, driven by 14% demand growth, combined with a 17% improvement in rate. Most of the room night increase came from our hotels in Orlando, Maui, and San Diego, where we saw incentive business from corporate groups come back into the mix. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:20:52As it relates to overall group business, banquet and catering revenue was up 17% over the fourth quarter and clearly showed that groups are willing to spend when they meet in person. Banquet revenue per group room night exceeded 2019 levels in the first quarter for the first time in the recovery, ending 7% higher, with March absolute banquet and catering revenue down just 10% to 2019. Corporate group revenue increased 41% over the fourth quarter, driven by 17% demand growth and a 21% increase in rate. Corporate group room nights picked up meaningfully each month in the quarter and ended at 70% of 2019 levels in March. Orlando and San Diego hotels drove most of the demand growth in this sub-segment. Association groups also showed steady sequential improvements. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:21:49First quarter association group room nights increased 26% over the fourth quarter with a 13% increase in rate. Shifting gears to expenses, total pro forma expenses were down 17% to first quarter 2019, in line with the total revenue decline. Staffing at our hotels remains at 94% of desired levels based on business volumes versus 97% historically. Hotels hit pause on hiring during Omicron and were unable to keep up as demand surged back in February and March. While our hotels continue to fill open roles, a lag between demand and staffing levels still exists. This has acted as an offset to wages and benefits expense quarter over quarter. Briefly touching on our efforts to redefine the operating model, we have made meaningful progress on evolving brand standards with our operators. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:22:48Marriott recently announced over 200 brand standard revisions that aim to reduce costs, align standards across brands and segments, enable greater operational flexibility, and eliminate outdated standards. Some examples include removing alarm clocks, printed compendiums, and premium channels from guest rooms. Our operators have also moved to residential style amenities in luxury hotel rooms and revamped the food and beverage options and hours of operation in many hotels to align with customer preferences. We expect brand standards to continue to evolve as we work with our operators to enhance efficiencies. Taken together, a strong top line and expense controls have allowed our margin to continue to meaningfully improve. Our pro forma hotel EBITDA margin in the first quarter was 31.4%, which is just 10 basis points below that of the first quarter 2019. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:23:51For comparison, this represents a 350 basis point increase to our fourth quarter hotel EBITDA margin, which was 27.9%. First quarter margin improvement was primarily a result of strong ADR and cancellation revenue. As demand and rate quickly recovered from a decline in January. March had the highest monthly hotel EBITDA margin in Host's history for today's pro forma portfolio at 41%. Turning to our outlook for 2022, we are still unable to provide full year operational guidance given the continued volatility surrounding COVID. That said, we believe sequential quarterly RevPAR improvements will continue as declines to 2019 diminish throughout the year. We expect second quarter RevPAR to be between $195 and $205, or down 8% to down 3% relative to 2019. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:24:55This RevPAR range implies an adjusted EBITDAre range of $375 million-$410 million for the second quarter. We expect sustained strength in leisure as well as business transient and group demand to continue accelerating in our urban markets as companies get back on the road and groups get back to meeting in person. We have seen a recovery in international travel, particularly from Canada, Germany and the U.K. New York remains the top destination market, followed by San Francisco and Seattle, and we expect sequential improvements in international demand over the course of this year. Given the cadence of the lodging recovery, it is difficult to provide an accurate forecast for the year. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:25:44While we expect sequential RevPAR improvements relative to 2019, seasonality and changing market and business mix are expected to lead to lower RevPAR and margins for the second half of the year relative to the second quarter. For reference, the third quarter has typically been our weakest quarter of the year, and as is historically the case, we would expect third quarter RevPAR and margins to be below that of the second quarter. Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity position, our weighted average maturity is 5.3 years at a weighted average interest rate of 3.4%, and we have no significant maturities until 2024. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:26:27After accounting for our two hotel dispositions in April, we now have $2 billion in total available liquidity, comprised of approximately $439 million of cash, $162 million of FF&E reserves, and a full availability of our $1.5 billion credit facility. Wrapping up, I am pleased to share that the board of directors authorized a second quarter dividend of $0.06 per share on Host common stock, a 100% increase over the prior quarter. All future dividends are subject to approval by the company's board of directors. As the operational recovery continues, we expect to be able to grow our dividends to a sustainable level. To conclude, we are optimistic that 2022 will continue to build on the strong momentum of the past few quarters. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:27:19We remain very well positioned to execute on our goal of increasing the EBITDA growth profile and improving the performance of our portfolio. With that, we would be happy to take your questions. To ensure we have time to address as many questions as possible, please limit yourself to one question. Operator00:27:40Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now open for questions. If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone. Please hold while we poll for questions. Your first question is coming from Chris Woronka from Deutsche Bank. Your line is live. Chris WoronkaSenior Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:28:11Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for all the data points. I guess I'll ask the obvious one, which is the 2Q guidance with what you said about April, and I understand there's normally seasonally a drop in May and June, but you know, I think the basic math is suggesting a bigger than normal drop, like a double-digit drop versus 19. Can you just give us a little bit of color on how you're thinking about that? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:28:38Sure, Chris. You know, we have talked a lot about the Q1 performance and April performance internally at Host, and we just don't think we're gonna be able to sustain the level of rate that we achieved in Q1 and in the month of April at our resort properties. The spring break that occurred this year was off the charts. It really was very strong and we expect to see some moderation back to the mean as we see a rotation from spring breakers back into the urban markets, group and business transient coming back. You know, that's the reason why we brought the guidance down for Q2. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:29:51Strong April, but we expect May and June to moderate. May is definitely gonna be lower than April. June may be slightly above May at this point in time. Chris WoronkaSenior Analyst at Deutsche Bank00:30:04Okay. Very helpful. Thanks, Jim. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:30:07Sure. Operator00:30:09Thank you. Your next question is coming from Neil Malkin from Capital One Securities. Your line is live. Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:30:16Hi, everyone. Good morning. Jim, question for you, kind of along the same lines, but in terms of, you know, maybe just leisure, you know, resorts or, you know, probably more so the other, you know, urban or group hotels. Can you just talk about what out-of-room total spending looks like? I mean, at least from our expectations, it's continued to just be, you know, really strong. I know that, you know, people. You've, I think, alluded to, even though rate, it may not be sustainable at some of these resorts, the other side of the revenue equation should pick up as group and core travel segments come back. Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:30:59Can you just talk about what you're seeing there, the total out-of-room and how to think about that maybe as we go forward in terms of out-of-room spending on a per occupied level? Thanks. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:31:11Sure. You know, at our 16 resorts in the first quarter, Neil, we had outlet revenue per available room of $180, which is clearly a high watermark for our portfolio. I would say probably industry-wide, it's a high watermark. As we look at outlet revenue in the aggregate, it was just 7% below Q1 2019. That's all driven by five resorts at this point in time. I think our resort performance was +40% on a pro forma basis to Q1 2019. The same, and Sourav touched on this in his prepared remarks, the same with respect to banquets at our hotels that are driven by group. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:32:07I mean, that banquets were +$24 million to quarter four. You know, the per group room night, the banquet dollars exceeded 2019 by 7%. What we're seeing on corporate, and it's mostly driven by corporate group at this point in time. What we're seeing is, you know, the groups that are signing up are being cautious regarding what commitments they're making on a spend basis, both from a rooms perspective and out-of-room spend, given what happened with Omicron in January and February and, you know, the attendant attrition and cancellation fees. But when they arrive at the hotels, they're spending a lot more money than they contracted for, which makes it a little bit difficult to forecast going forward. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:33:02That's one of the reasons why we're not comfortable talking about the second half of the year, but talking about the second quarter at this point in time. Does that answer your question? Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:33:16Yeah, I think so. I mean, I'm just curious. You know, again, I understand, like, the decline in RevPAR, but I mean, you do expect, just to be clear, you know, especially given your guidance in terms of bookings or room nights on the groups side, the out-of-room or the non-room related revenue or trend to continue its upward track, correct? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:33:41Absolutely. I only touched on outlet revenue and banquet revenue. I mean, we have seen, you know, a very strong, upward trajectory, on golf revenues and on spa revenues. You know, parking is relatively flat, and we, you know, we expect that to pick up as people get back, on the road and start traveling again. We see no downturn whatsoever in golf or spa revenues. You know, the one area that, you know, it did have an impact on our first quarter performance were attrition and cancellation fees of, $26 million, and that's relative to $13 million, that we collected in, Q1 of 2019. I wouldn't expect to see, that level of, cancellation and attrition fees going forward. The other out-of-room spend should continue to grow. Neil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One Securities00:34:44Thank you. Operator00:34:47Thank you. Your next question is coming from Smedes Rose from Citi. Your line is live. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:34:54Hi, thank you. I just wanted to ask, Sourav, as you think about, I guess margin going forward, you noted that margins came very close to pre-pandemic levels and RevPAR is still quite a bit below. You know, as RevPAR continues to improve, even if it's somewhat seasonal or more choppy going forward, how do you think about the flow-through of incremental RevPAR gains? And would it be fair to assume that they might be more occupancy-driven at this point versus rate-driven, or how are you thinking about that? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:35:29Hey, Smedes. I would say, you know, take a look at sort of how we performed in 2019 on a quarterly basis. Given that we have come back much quicker than expected and in terms of just getting back to normal seasonality, and that's obviously what's impacting our Q2 guidance, when you look at margin performance, it would be very similar to what we saw back in 2019. The only thing I would say is obviously when you are growing revenues, rooms revenues more driven by rate, that will flow through better. In other words, you know, you can expect sort of Q2 margins no different from Q1, sort of first quarter of 2019, where it's slightly better than the first quarter. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:36:18If you look at the third quarter of 2019, there is a marked difference in what happens in margins just because rate drops. Back in 2019, if I remember correctly, rate dropped. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:36:29Are close to, like, 10%, and there was a margin drop of about 600 basis points. Similar in terms of seasonality is what we would expect. You would still expect sequential top-line growth relative to 2019, but you will see the absolute revenue numbers sort of follow the same patterns as we saw back in 2019. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:36:51Okay. Can I just ask you one quick question? You mentioned 3 million group room nights on the books for 2023. That looks like somewhere between maybe 18-19 points of occupancy at this point. Where would you be now at a pre-pandemic going into the following year in terms of sort of points of occupancy on the books? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:12No, what I would say is where we were pre-pandemic is at about 3.9 million group room nights at the same time. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:19Okay. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:20What's important to keep in mind here is we are talking about the full year, right? Q1 obviously was impacted because of Omicron. The way to think about it is more the remainder of the year. Remainder of the year, we have 2.3 million group room nights, so that's Q2 through Q4. At the same time, back in 2019, for the remainder of the year, we had 2.7 million group room nights. Does that make sense? Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:46Yeah. Sorry, I thought you were talking about for 2023. You're talking about for this year's group room nights. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:51No. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:51Okay. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:37:52I'm talking 2022. Smedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at Citi00:37:56Got it. Thank you. Sorry, I misunderstood. Okay. Operator00:38:04Thank you. Your next question is coming from Bill Crow from Raymond James. Your line is live. Bill CrowManaging Director at Raymond James00:38:10Hey. Good morning. Thank you. Jim, just to put a little finer point on this whole sequential discussion, how much of this change in RevPAR is mix driven, more group on the books for June, for example, than there was in the first quarter? Some more mix, more business transient group. Or how much of it is just, you know, travel demand in some of those Sun Belt markets that caused all the compression, and the pricing is just being more, you know, dispersed to New York and Boston and Chicago? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:38:47I think it's a combination of all the above, Bill, clearly. You know, I don't want to give the impression that our 16 resorts and those five properties that had over $1,000 in ADR for the quarter are gonna fall off the face of the earth. They're not. I mean, the demand is still there. We're still seeing it. I think as we get past, you know, we are past April, we're gonna get, as we get into June, we have some seasonality issues associated with the resorts. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:39:24You know, as an example, you know, the One Hotel South Beach in Miami, the Ritz-Carlton in Naples, Four Seasons Orlando, you know, just natural seasonality, we think may temper some of the demand at those properties. Then, you know, we are seeing group and business transient come back, which is going to clearly result in a RevPAR that in the aggregate is lower than what we saw in the first quarter and in the month of April. We're delighted to have the business. Make no mistake about it. We're, you know, we're very excited to see group and BT come back as strong as they have been coming back. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:40:11You know, having the resort portfolio that we do and having put $1.6 billion to work last year with assets that have really meaningfully outperformed our expectations has in our mind served as a good bridge to get us to the point where business transient and group recover. It's a combination of all the above. Bill CrowManaging Director at Raymond James00:40:35If I could just ask a follow-up on kind of the health of the consumer. I'm curious whether you're seeing points redemptions picking up. If so, does that represent some pushback on these rates at the resorts or maybe a concession that inflation is starting to eat away at the consumer's wallet? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:40:58I'll let Sourav get into it, but the short answer is no. We have looked at redemption numbers, and we don't think that is having an impact at all at this point in time. In fact, you know, for as an example, for Alila Ventana, we're delighted that that hotel is part of the World of Hyatt, because that's the redemption numbers at that property really go a long way to allowing us to drive outsized RevPAR, just given the small number of rooms that are there. When we can really revenue manage down to the last room, that is how our redemption rate is set. It's been very positive for us. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:41:48Sourav, I don't know, do you wanna add a little bit of color on what we're seeing? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:41:53Sure. Net net, it's actually incremental for us because if you think about sort of where we are getting those redemption room nights, they're primarily in the resort destinations, which has very high occupancy, and majority of our hotels in our portfolio are high redemption hotels. We actually get a higher reimbursement rate at those hotels. Obviously at a higher occupancy thresholds, it ends up being incremental in terms of revenue that's being driven by those redemption room nights. Bill CrowManaging Director at Raymond James00:42:24Okay. Thank y'all for your time. Operator00:42:28Thank you. Your next question is coming from David Katz from Jefferies. Your line is live. David KatzManaging Director at Jefferies00:42:39Morning. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to—you've talked quite a bit about, you know, the strength of the balance sheet, and, you know, I think the presumption is that there would be other properties out there that, you know, would be viable targets, you know, in the next 12 months. I'm just wondering, you know, if we can expand that view a little bit, whether there are, you know, portfolios or even, you know, whether corporate M&A would even be within or outside the boundaries. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:43:17We are, you know, constantly evaluating investment opportunities, David. You know what? I think what has happened, at least through our lens, as we view the world today, as other hotel owners have seen the cadence of the recovery, we're seeing one of two things happening. Pricing expectations for a number of the properties that have been in the market early in this year have been beyond our reach. We just have not been able to pencil the underwriting to make sense. Other assets that we would like to buy, and that's because everyone is expecting a strong recovery, which obviously our first quarter results and our April numbers are validating, as we move into 2022 and beyond. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:44:19Other assets that we might wanna acquire just aren't available for sale right now as owners sit and wait until cash flow recovers. You know, we are very well positioned, there's no question about it. You know, we have $2 billion of available liquidity today. As the year progresses, that liquidity position will grow. It puts us in a very strong position as we get later into this year and opportunities become available to really pivot and again be the buyer of choice as we were last year and take deals down all cash, and not have to worry about the state of the debt capital markets today, which have gotten a little bit choppy. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:45:13Less loan to value proceeds, higher interest rates, given the commentary and actions that the Fed has taken. I think that, you know, patience is warranted at this point in time. We clearly are gonna use the balance sheet. Beyond delighted that we were able to do what we did last year and get ahead of the curve and put $1.6 billion to work early in the cycle. I think everything's on the table. You know, it's very difficult to speculate on what might become available that meets our underwriting criteria. David KatzManaging Director at Jefferies00:45:56I appreciate that. If I can follow up briefly. Just with respect to the kinds of markets where you would or wouldn't be, you know, there's an argument, right? You know, we see where companies are buying, you know, more Sun Belt oriented. You know, I wonder if there isn't a contrarian view, you know, where some markets that may be, you know, under some pressure or duress today or underperforming today might be, you know, some places to hunt for value. I just wonder what your thoughts are on that. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:46:34Let me start by saying that we don't have a red line through any market. It really is dependent upon our view of value and likely performance going forward. I agree with you know, that you know, I think the puck is still going to the Sun Belt markets. I don't think that's gonna change. You know, resorts in particular, you know, for a number of reasons. Number one is very, very low levels of supply in those markets, in the resort markets in general. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:47:10If opportunities presented themselves in some of the markets that are at the bottom of the recovery list, and we thought that they were priced fairly and that we could add value, and that the investment would serve to elevate the EBITDA growth profile of the portfolio, which is what we're really focused on doing, we would certainly be prepared to transact. David KatzManaging Director at Jefferies00:47:40Understood. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Operator00:47:45Thank you. Your next question is coming from Ari Klein from BMO. Your line is live. Ari KleinVP of Equity Research at BMO00:47:52Thanks, good morning. Just following up on the resort rates. You know, clearly it seems like there's some seasonality at play over the next few months. You know, as you look further ahead and comps begin to get much tougher kind of in the second half of the year and I guess the beginning of next year, are you expecting, you know, rates to actually decline a bit? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:48:20Hey, Ari, it's Sourav. I think, you know, while rates will temper, and a lot of it will be just natural business mix, and market mix, so shifting of demand to different markets as opposed to the strength of the leisure rate in those specific markets. We still expect, and just based on the demand that we are seeing, into the, you know, next quarter and even the second half of the year, we are of the belief that the leisure rates are still going to hold pretty strong. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:48:52Probably, frankly, well into next year. There's still a lot of pent-up demand, and once international borders really open up to the U.S., we think there is, you know, a meaningful amount of demand that's going to help sort of sustain those rates. Obviously, very difficult to tell to what magnitude. It will be tempered as sort of the market mix takes place. We still feel pretty strong about the leisure rates going through the rest of this year and into next year. Ari KleinVP of Equity Research at BMO00:49:24Great. Thanks for the color. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:49:26Sure. Operator00:49:30Question is from Anthony Powell from Barclays. Your line is live. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:49:35Hi, good morning. You know, sorry to keep focusing on this leisure performance in May and June, but I kind of want to ask another question on that. We've seen strong pricing and demand on holiday weekends. There are two weekends coming up. There's Memorial Day and also Juneteenth. Just checking some of your properties on both of those weekends, they seem to be asking for very high pricing. What are you seeing in the booking window for those two specific weekends? Are you seeing any, I guess, incremental weakness or softness or price resistance as we approach those time periods? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:50:09Specifically for Memorial Day, and this is again, going back to sort of still the short-term, lead time, we are seeing actually pace of 12% above 2019 levels. Still, holding very strong, for holidays. Sunbelt markets are pushing rates really nicely with rates on the books up 44% versus same time, 2019. But overall, still very strong performance, for, you know, the upcoming holidays. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:50:42What about Juneteenth? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:50:44I don't specifically have Juneteenth numbers handy, but we can certainly get back to you. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:50:51I guess you're not really seeing, I guess, in the upcoming holiday weekends, any kind of, I guess, relative price softening versus what you saw in April or even Presidents' Day. Is that fair? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:51:01That's fair. We're not seeing any softening. Anthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at Barclays00:51:05All right. Thank you. Operator00:51:08Thank you. Your next question is coming from Jay Kornreich from SMBC. Your line is live. Jay KornreichVP of REIT Equity Research at SMBC00:51:16Hey, good morning. It's Jay. It's kind of a follow-up to a previous question. You know, with the strong recovery in business transient urban demand, it was interesting to see your Boston and New York asset dispositions. Kind of just curious how you think about your asset allocation plan and whether it may shift back to preserving your urban footprint, which is recovering, versus maybe disposing in those markets and focusing more on the outperforming Sunbelt and resort assets. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:51:43Sure, Jay. You know, those two assets were, they each had a unique set of circumstances surrounding them that drove us to dispose of the properties. You know, in Boston, let me say before I get into specifics about each of these two assets, we still have a healthy presence in both markets. You know, in Boston, we have the Boston Marriott Copley Place, which is a part of the Marriott Transformational Capital Program, we're in the midst of a complete renovation of that asset. Clearly, you know, we are committed to the Boston market. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:52:26The Sheraton, given its location in the Back Bay and the size of the hotel and the plans on the part of the State of Massachusetts to sell the Hynes Convention Center, which the hotel was very dependent upon for groups. It doesn't have an adequate meeting space platform to service groups. You know, the group business in Boston now has moved to the main convention center. The hotel needed a lot of capital, a significant amount of deferred CapEx at that property. It just made a lot more sense for us to dispose of that asset. You know, similarly with the Sheraton in New York. We have the New York Marriott Marquis in Times Square and the New York Marriott Downtown in downtown New York. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:53:21Both are in incredible shape. They were both part of the Marriott Transformational Capital program. The assets are well-primed to really outperform as the recovery continues apace, whereas the Sheraton, again, an older hotel in need of substantial CapEx. The Sheraton was forecasted to lose $15 million at the EBITDA line in 2022. You know, I think those two dispositions will go a long way to allowing us to elevate the EBITDA growth profile of the company. Taking the capital from those sales and investing that capital either in our existing portfolio through ROI projects or making additional acquisitions going forward is part of our capital allocation strategy. Jay KornreichVP of REIT Equity Research at SMBC00:54:23Great. That's really helpful. If I could just ask, you know, one follow-up. As we're seeing a nice recovery in the business transient in all the urban markets, can you just give us a little perspective on how San Francisco is shaping up and how you expect the market to perform in the second half of the year? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:54:40Yeah, sure. San Francisco is actually shaping up better than we were expecting. San Francisco, I'll give you an example. San Francisco Marriott Marquis actually had 1,000 rooms per night midweek last three weeks of March. The BT on the books for the last week of April is almost flat to 2019. Overall, pretty good see-through for San Francisco in terms of BT pickup. Jay KornreichVP of REIT Equity Research at SMBC00:55:07Okay. Really helpful. Thanks. Thanks very much. Operator00:55:12Thank you. Your next question is coming from Floris van Dijkum from Compass Point. Your line is live. Floris van DijkumManaging Director at Compass Point00:55:20Great. Thanks, guys, for taking my question. You know, if I look at your EBITDA numbers, particularly if I look at your resort markets relative to 2019, you know, obviously the resorts have been really strong. San Francisco has been lagging, D.C. has been lagging. New York is not really that big, but you know, that has also been a troubled market. As you think about, you know, the recovery that we're seeing in the urban markets, I mean, in your view I know that people are talking a little bit about, you know, sequential growth here, but you're at 83% of your EBITDA, hotel EBITDA already in the U.S., in the first quarter. Floris van DijkumManaging Director at Compass Point00:56:10Some of your competitors, you know, think they can achieve that by the fourth quarter of this year. Is that your house view of potential? I know you're not giving guidance, but certainly is that how comfortable are you being able to achieve, you know, those kinds of levels by the fourth quarter of this year? Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:56:36I don't think we're really comfortable talking about you know the second half of the year. It's very difficult at this point in time to forecast how this recovery is gonna continue to unfold. So much of the business is being booked short term, although we are starting to see the booking window extend. You know, as I mentioned, a very valid point we think is on the corporate group business that we're seeing. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:57:07You know, the contracts that are being signed are for lower levels of food and beverage spend and smaller numbers of attendees than that are showing up because they just don't wanna be dealing with attrition and cancellation fees if they have to cancel or if there, you know, there is another event that as we saw in January and February. At this point in time, you know, I think we're confident, and we feel really good about what we're seeing in terms of group bookings for the balance of this year. We had a nice pickup over Q4, where we had 2.7 million definites on the books. At the end of Q1, we had 3 million definite room nights on the books. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:58:02That compares, I think, to $3.9 million in Q1 of 2019 for 2020. We continue to close the gap going forward. The same with business transient. You know, it's coming back. We think it's going to continue to evolve as offices open. We feel good about it, but we're just not in a position to give any guidance for the balance of the year. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:58:29Fair enough. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:58:31I would just add, I mean, if there's any indication in terms of what we did in March as a presentation of where we see the trends heading, I think, you know, we mentioned our prepared remarks. March was over 100,000 room nights, which is now the high water mark. If you remember back in 2021, we hit the last high water mark was at 78,000 room nights in October of 2021. That's a 28% increase. What we can say is we see that trend continuing into April. As Jim said, since the lead times are short, it's difficult to have visibility on BT well into the second half, but the trends are at least positive. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:59:09March ADR for BT was $223, and that's down only 1.6% to 2019. Floris van DijkumManaging Director at Compass Point00:59:18Thanks, Sourav. Appreciate it. Operator00:59:22Thank you. Your next question is coming from Chris Darling from Green Street. Your line is live. Chris DarlingEquity Research Analyst at Green Street00:59:29Thanks. Good morning. Just to put a finer point on what you're seeing on BT and group demand, I'm hoping you could just walk through how weekday occupancy specifically is trending relative to 2019 in some of your, you know, major urban markets? Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts00:59:48For the major urban markets, the weekday occupancy is still lower than what, you know, where we would like it to be, but it's trending in the right direction. I think that's the important point. From the last time we spoke in the fourth quarter call, there has been like a, you know, four to five point improvement in midweek occupancies. That's where sort of, you know, we've been focused. Weekend occupancy has obviously improved meaningfully in those urban markets, but that trend continues. Chris DarlingEquity Research Analyst at Green Street01:00:21Fair enough. I don't know if you have the numbers in front of you, but just curious, you know, how that might compare to, you know, kind of pre-COVID levels. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts01:00:32We are still down, I would say, about, you know, sort of high double digits or 18-20 percentage points in occupancy in those markets midweek. Chris DarlingEquity Research Analyst at Green Street01:00:44Gotcha. Appreciate it. Thank you. Sourav GhoshEVP and CFO at Host Hotels & Resorts01:00:47Sure. Operator01:00:52Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I will now hand the conference back to Jim Risoleo, Chief Executive Officer, for closing remarks. Please go ahead. Jim RisoleoPresident and CEO at Host Hotels & Resorts01:01:01Thank you. I would like to thank everyone for joining us on our call today. We appreciate the opportunity to discuss our quarterly results with you. We all look forward to meeting with many of you in person in the coming weeks and months. We really appreciate your continued support. Have a great day. Operator01:01:23Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJaime MarcusSVP of Investor RelationsJim RisoleoPresident and CEOSourav GhoshEVP and CFOAnalystsAnthony PowellDirector and Research Analyst at BarclaysAri KleinVP of Equity Research at BMOBill CrowManaging Director at Raymond JamesChris DarlingEquity Research Analyst at Green StreetChris WoronkaSenior Analyst at Deutsche BankDavid KatzManaging Director at JefferiesFloris van DijkumManaging Director at Compass PointJay KornreichVP of REIT Equity Research at SMBCNeil MalkinDirector and REIT Equity Analyst at Capital One SecuritiesSmedes RoseDirector and Research Analyst at CitiPowered by